Incremental spawning system

[toxic yarrow]

So i have a system for a incremental game where you collect items that spawn however im stuck. For storing and holding the coins what do i use? If i use a module script in startplayerscript, firstly the server can not access it. Secondly a exploiter would be able to manipulate it. so what do i do?

[analog lantern]

I dont undestand well but

Firstly

You could just change the module script location to repliczted storage

And secondly, the exploiter cant require the module since we can require it only once (tho i think he can just create a local script with the function of the module and idk just change but idk)

Btw, when an exploiter change the module, the change is not working on the server (ig atleast)

[toxic yarrow]

okay so i have a game.

• it spawns parts locally (only for the player)
• there is a max amount that the player can have (can change)
• how do i check that it doesnt spawn more

[analog lantern]

Well

I used attributes

Like, you set attributes on the server (max amount for ex)

And you get them on client

Always verify attributes on server when you getting coins or idk something like that, cuz the client can exploit like you said

[analog lantern]

In your incremental game, we have to touch this part to get money?

But the problem is that you spawn them locally

[toxic yarrow]

yes

[toxic yarrow]

so a good example of a game like this is: https://www.roblox.com/games/120870800305934/UPD-4-5-Sticks-Incremental
or just search: Sticks Incremental

its pretty much the idea i wanna add

[analog lantern]

Ye but, problem is that you can never trust the client, so you probably need to spawn the parts on server

[toxic yarrow]

locally spawned parts you collect e.g

[toxic yarrow]

but how do you do that only for the player

[analog lantern]

I have a question

[toxic yarrow]

while keeping it fast

[toxic yarrow]

yeah ofc

[analog lantern]

When the part spawn on client, how would the server be able to know that the part spawned ?

[toxic yarrow]

you want me to send my current code?

[toxic yarrow]

but like this is why im here

[analog lantern]

Maybe set transparency 0 to all the part that is for the player, and transparency 1 for the part that are not for the player (or maybe even destroy them on client side)

[analog lantern]

You could use a remote event, telling the server that a part has spawned

[toxic yarrow]

see i had this idea, but how do you tell only a certain client to show them

[toxic yarrow]

yeah thats what i did

let me send my current code

[analog lantern]

I might be wrong with all I say btw, im not really experimented

[toxic yarrow]

Server Script

local ReplicatedStorage = game:GetService("ReplicatedStorage")

local addedEvent = ReplicatedStorage.Events:WaitForChild("Added")
local updateEvent = ReplicatedStorage.Events:WaitForChild("Update")
local collectEvent = ReplicatedStorage.Events:WaitForChild("Collect")
local getDataKey = ReplicatedStorage.Events:WaitForChild("GetDataKey")
local setDataKey = ReplicatedStorage.Events:WaitForChild("SetDataKey")

addedEvent.OnServerEvent:Connect(function(player)
    local char = player.Character or player.CharacterAdded:Wait()
    local coinsModule = require(char:WaitForChild("CoinsModule"))
    local textLabel = player:WaitForChild("PlayerGui").CollectionCounter.CounterText
    
    coinsModule.actualCoins = coinsModule.actualCoins + 1
    print(coinsModule.actualCoins)
    textLabel.Text = coinsModule.actualCoins .. "/" .. coinsModule.maxCoins

    if coinsModule.actualCoins > coinsModule.maxCoins then
        print("Hacking")
    end
    updateEvent:FireClient(player, coinsModule.actualCoins, coinsModule.maxCoins)
end)

collectEvent.OnServerEvent:Connect(function(player)
    local char = player.Character or player.CharacterAdded:Wait()
    local coinsModule = require(char:WaitForChild("CoinsModule"))
    local textLabel = player:WaitForChild("PlayerGui").CollectionCounter.CounterText
    
    coinsModule.actualCoins = coinsModule.actualCoins - 1

    print("Coins", coinsModule.actualCoins)
    
    textLabel.Text = coinsModule.actualCoins .. "/" .. coinsModule.maxCoins

    if coinsModule.actualCoins > coinsModule.maxCoins or coinsModule.actualCoins < 0 then
        print("Hacking")
    else
        local inventory = getDataKey:Invoke(player, "Inventory")
        inventory.Apple += 1
        print(inventory.Apple)
        setDataKey:Fire(player, "Inventory", inventory)
    end
    updateEvent:FireClient(player, coinsModule.actualCoins, coinsModule.maxCoins)
end)```

Client Collect System

local collection = game:GetService("CollectionService")
local replicatedStorage = game:GetService("ReplicatedStorage")
local player = script.Parent.Parent

local coinsModule = require(script.Parent:WaitForChild("CoinsModule"))

local addedEvent = replicatedStorage.Events.Added
local collectEvent = replicatedStorage.Events.Collect

collection:GetInstanceAddedSignal("coin"):Connect(function(part)
    addedEvent:FireServer()

    part.Touched:Once(function(hit)
        print("hit")
        print(hit.Name)
        collectEvent:FireServer()
        part:Destroy() 
    end)
end)```

Client Spawn System

local Players = game:GetService("Players")
local Workspace = game:GetService("Workspace")
local ReplicatedStorage = game:GetService("ReplicatedStorage")

local spawnSite = Workspace.World.MainMap:WaitForChild("SpawningPart")
local coin = ReplicatedStorage:WaitForChild("Coin")
local coinModule = require(script.Parent:WaitForChild("CoinsModule"))
local zonePosition = spawnSite.Position - Vector3.new(spawnSite.Size.X/2,0,spawnSite.Size.Z/2 ) 

local Player = Players.LocalPlayer

local SpawnSpeed = 2.4

Player:GetAttributeChangedSignal("SpawnSpeed"):Connect(function()
    SpawnSpeed = Player:GetAttribute("SpawnSpeed")
end)

while task.wait(SpawnSpeed) do
    if coinModule.actualCoins < coinModule.maxCoins then
        print(coinModule.actualCoins, coinModule.maxCoins)
        local coinClone = coin:Clone()
        coinClone.Parent =  workspace
        coinClone.Position = zonePosition + Vector3.new(math.random(2, spawnSite.Size.X), 1.5, math.random(2, spawnSite.Size.Z) )
    else
        warn("Max Coins", coinModule.actualCoins)
    end
end```

[analog lantern]

Maybe you create a foler in workpace containing folders named from the player user id, and the spawn parts in this folder

[toxic yarrow]

okay but lets say if i was to detect parts added, this wont work because the exploiter could easily just make parts

[analog lantern]

We are talking about creating parts on server for the moment right ?

If the exploiters create a part on his client side, the server wont see this part

[toxic yarrow]

yes thats what you said

[toxic yarrow]

ahh right good point.

[analog lantern]

But like I said, dont trust 100% what I did, i dont know what i dont really know much too, i just tried to help

Hope someone that knows better can explains it

Like if spawning the parts on client is a problem?

But ig yes but idk

[toxic yarrow]

yeah i know what you mean

this is so much harder then it seems and its really bugging me

[toxic yarrow]

okay but now another issue

[analog lantern]

Yes

?

[toxic yarrow]

how would spawn parts at different times for each player

[analog lantern]

Hm

Why not creating a thread when a player joins thats a loop that create parts each x time, where x is the spawn rate of the player

Like : lua task.spawn(YourSpawnFunction)
On player added obviously

[toxic yarrow]

and how could i update the thread on the timing?

[analog lantern]

About the spawn rate you mean ?

[toxic yarrow]

yeah

[analog lantern]

You dont have to "update" the thread, just make sure your function update it

For example in the while loop, you set back the spawnrate to a new one if the player have upgraded it

Like :

local playerSpawnRate = 3 -- seconds
while task.wait(playerSpawnRate) do
-- here you actualize your playerspawnrate variable, like : playerSpawnRate = Player:GetAttribute("SpawnRate")
-- function to spawn part or idk
end

I mean i really wrote this fast

Idk if you got it

@toxic yarrow

If no tell me

[toxic yarrow]

no i get it thanks

let me try spin something up

[toxic yarrow]

okay i got it working

it seems to work thanks man

but i got another question

what would be the best way to add a collect system now?

[analog lantern]

When you say collect system

You say like a zone where you collect

Or a touched event

[toxic yarrow]

yes

not sure if you tried the game i linked

but like that

[river cosmos]

Y

A better method would be to spawn the parts on the client but have the part count on the server

[analog lantern]

You can check the player distance with the part

[analog lantern]

How would you count the part

[river cosmos]

A server sends a remote event to the client

If the client sends it back you count it down

[analog lantern]

Nice, now, how would you get the part position for example?

[river cosmos]

Random

You cant really sexure that

Secure

[analog lantern]

Wdym? Remote event that fire position?

[toxic yarrow]

with a while loop?

[river cosmos]

The exploiter could teleport all the parts to him but either way its better than having hundeards of parts on the server destroying themselfs and cloning back in miliseconds

Especially models

[analog lantern]

Unless you create part on server and then put the ownership of the part to the server

[river cosmos]

What would that change?

The part spawns on the client

If the server does that memory leaks and server lag wouls become a problem

[analog lantern]

Well, player wont be able to put all parts to his position

[river cosmos]

And youll jave to rekoin to new servers alot more often

[analog lantern]

No like if its on server

[river cosmos]

Yes

[analog lantern]

Why?

[toxic yarrow]

okay so im confused

@river cosmos your saying client right

this is the code i used

[river cosmos]

Because cloning and destroying n stuff adds a little bit of memory or sum that you cant destroy unless you go into a new server

[toxic yarrow]

./

what do you think of this

[river cosmos]

It will cause server lag

That means alot bigger delay in stuff

[toxic yarrow]

i had the issue where i was unable to keep track of how many parts where currently spawned across server and client

[analog lantern]

You sure about that? Isnt the garbage collector thing or idk what just delete that ? And so you suggest doing it on client even tho it will be really easy to exploit?

[river cosmos]

It doesnt really fully delete it

As the server get older it lags

Its just better to do it on the client, because of alot shorter delays and longer server life

That means more servers will be faster

Shorter delay

[analog lantern]

Cant you just shutdown the server after x time

And like make players rejoins

[river cosmos]

Eh

[analog lantern]

Ye but this would like

Ruin the competivity

With other players

[analog lantern]

I know

But maybe you could make some infos about like the part on server actually, like the part pos, the part type, etc.. and then fire it from server to client to make the client create the part but id'

[river cosmos]

The only stuff i see n stuff is handle the logic on the server and objects on client

I mean you could make this all server sided but ion recomend

[toxic yarrow]

okay so what do you recomend

and what do you recomend i do differently from my code?