function client:hello_world()
print("hello world")
end```
here is some example code how would I get the name of method with only the function#how do I get a name of a method
gentle lintel
violet tapir
```local client = {}
function client:hello_world()
print("hello world")
end...
Why would you even want to do that
gentle lintel
like I want to send a method as a callback
and I don't wanna also send over the name of the method
if there's a way to do it it would be alot better than sending over a extra paramatar
violet tapir
Is there a specific reason why you need the name of the callback? Do you need an identifier for it or something?
gentle lintel
Is there a specific reason why you need the name of the callback? Do you need an...
identifier 👍
basically rn im tryna recreate my own verison of knit
should get me rank 2 scripter
also give me a better understanding of frameworks
also knit is no longer supported so It would be good to have a framework I understand
violet tapir
Knit isn’t really used much anymore, nor is it really useful
Knit didn’t really work for a lot of reasons
If you want to make a framework couldn’t you make something useful?
gentle lintel
idk man I think your overstating it
gentle lintel
If you want to make a framework couldn’t you make something useful?
like what
knit is so useful
violet tapir
State management library, networking library, serialization library, data management library, etc
violet tapir
knit is so useful
For what?
violet tapir
client server communication
So like a networking / state management library?
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gentle lintel
So like a networking / state management library?
tf is state management
violet tapir
tf is state management
Have you ever used charm or rodux?
violet tapir
State management libraries help you store all your game state in one place, this makes it easier to track changes, replicate state, or roll it back
violet tapir
why not just use rojo
It’s different from source control
gentle lintel
im adding my own shit
like have no clue if this is a good idea but I wanted to serialize every method so then when I connect them to a event, if I connect them twice the module will throw a warn or sum
violet tapir
Source control tracks changes to your code, state management is your game state, like player positions, npc health
Whatnot
gentle lintel
Source control tracks changes to your code, state management is your game state,...
would state management be server and client sided?
violet tapir
like have no clue if this is a good idea but I wanted to serialize every method ...
Each function has an address and you can check if a function is already inside a table by either searching for it or storing it as a key in a table and indexing it with the function
violet tapir
would state management be server and client sided?
Yeah, state management can be used to sync data between client and server
violet tapir
violet tapir
what does charms do again?
It’s a state management library
gentle lintel
State management library, networking library, serialization library, data manage...
shit like this
Imma try and recreate it
violet tapir
Look into roblox open source like charm, red, bytenet, jecs, Lyra
violet tapir
You can find roblox open source on a site called wally
It’s a Roblox package manager
gentle lintel
You can find roblox open source on a site called wally
so ive heard
violet tapir
Or join the OSS discord
gentle lintel
Or join the OSS discord
yea im locked in there
should I just quit what im working on rn or lock and complete this project by the morning
violet tapir
should I just quit what im working on rn or lock and complete this project by th...
The knit framework you’re trying to make?
gentle lintel
yea yea
violet tapir
Yes
Knit is not it, it’s just a weird abstraction that doesn’t really do much of anything
gentle lintel
yea but like
i aint that good at coding
so like
recreating knit is good pratice is it not
typeshit
violet tapir
It’s a good way to learn but I think the concept of Knit is fundamentally flawed
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violet tapir
So I wouldn’t try to recreate that
gentle lintel
broo
im spent 5 hours on this shit
nooooooooooo
what do you recommed I recreate then?
violet tapir
Maybe an ECS framework
gentle lintel
googling ts
violet tapir
It is pretty complex though, so you don’t have to make a full implementation
But just understanding the concept of how ECS works will make you a better programmer
gentle lintel
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from what im reading on wiki
like
nvm ill get back to you when i've read it all
violet tapir
You should look into Jecs, it’s an ECS framework meant for roblox
There’s also matter but it’s also a bit older
And it is a bit bloated
gentle lintel
my guy im barely understanding the wiki article im reading
what's the easy shit you can give me
violet tapir
Look at Jecs docs on github
gentle lintel
my guy im barely understanding the wiki article im reading
im getting chatgpt to decode ts
violet tapir
Or just ask chat gpt to try to explain ECS
GPT is pretty good at explaining stuff but it’s sometimes wrong and for niche stuff it’s almost always wrong
gentle lintel
so like traditionally
data is constantly being updated between server and client?
esc also tries to prevent recursion?
violet tapir
What is chat gpt saying 💀
gentle lintel
and add more abstraction to oop?
violet tapir
ECS doesn’t have anything to do with server / client or networking
violet tapir
and add more abstraction to oop?
ECS is somewhat similar but also different to OOP
violet tapir
So you know how objects have both data and logic
gentle lintel
yea
violet tapir
Like properties and functions
gentle lintel
👍
violet tapir
ECS separates all your game data into components and entities, and all this is stored in one data structure (usually called the world)
gentle lintel
see idk what you mean by entities
violet tapir
And then there’s systems which run each frame and update all the data into your world
violet tapir
see idk what you mean by entities
An entity is just an id associated with a field of components
It’s like an empty object that you can add components to
gentle lintel
An entity is just an id associated with a field of components
components are just properties?
gentle lintel
And then there’s systems which run each frame and update all the data into your ...
why every frame
violet tapir
why every frame
In a game, all your systems run in one loop
gentle lintel
like if you change a compent why are we having to update stuff
violet tapir
One frame is 1 loop of your game
gentle lintel
like if I change a variable
this computer changes the stuff in the memory
????????
im cooked 💀
violet tapir
Are you talking about components?
gentle lintel
Are you talking about components?
uh huh
if I change an object's data is that shit not changed?
violet tapir
A component is just a type of data like health, the entity is the object that has components associated to it
violet tapir
if I change an object's data is that shit not changed?
Components can change
gentle lintel
yea yea
im just confused
like why we are having to update compents
like uh
why are they not already updated?
violet tapir
why are they not already updated?
What do you mean?
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violet tapir
Mhm
gentle lintel
how is chaning a component differnt
violet tapir
how is chaning a component differnt
Components are just variables
So it is the same
gentle lintel
so wdym by updating every frame
violet tapir
Although they aren’t stored like a normal variable is
violet tapir
so wdym by updating every frame
So you know run service right
gentle lintel
👍
violet tapir
If you connect a function to heartbeat, that’s a system that runs each frame
gentle lintel
👍
violet tapir
Okay so back to it
Think of an entity as an empty object
Let’s say I want to add a health component to an entity
Now, I can create a system called health regen
And loop through every entity with a health component, and update their health
Now I can have lots of things with health
I can have an enemy, a player, a turret, or even a grenade with health
gentle lintel
so when you say update you are simply calling a method on the entity
violet tapir
so when you say update you are simply calling a method on the entity
Update as in a system?
The entities themselves don’t contain any functions, all the logic is handled in the systems (like health regen), entities and components are just data (so tables in luau)
gentle lintel
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so when you mean to update a component every game loop this would only apply to methods changing the data of these entities/components every frame