how to make a group ranking system?

[vast zealot]

Ive seen things abt glitch but i dont really understand how to use that and it doesnt really seem safe, i just want to be able to rank people ranks ingame can someone help? Ive looked at every single thing on google for this and cant find anything.

[verbal bolt]

you are exaggerating when you say "looked at everything on google"

https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/Player/GetRankInGroup

It took me 10 seconds, and only because I am on my phone

if you don't scroll down, you will not also see GetRoleInGroup

[frigid pebble]

"looked at every single thing on google" ... google: https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+a+group+ranking+system+roblox

[frigid pebble]

if you're going to lie at least make it believable. look, see! no results!

[hollow stream]

He looked at everything ever on Google

[vast zealot]

... i mean that everything references back to glitch.

and glitch isnt reliable and half the stuff that isnt glitch doesnt work or is thru a paywall

[frigid pebble]

i dont know what glitch is and it did not appear in any results for the most obvious search term

even ai could answer this

[vast zealot]

its an api system so you can change players ranks ingame

but it doesnt have the best privacy

[frigid pebble]

probably coz whatever that is probably isn't safe. either make custom in-game ranks without using groups, or set up your groups manually?

[cold sand]

Ya all just flaming this dude 😭🙏🔥

[vast zealot]

every dev forum recommends it but also says its very unsafe

[vast zealot]

i need it to be a command that i can do for the purpose of the game im making

[vast zealot]

no like fr they are making me feel dumb for asking a question..

I know that its possible but everyone is saying to use glitch but its not safe at all 😭 and i dont understand how to make it myself either

[vast zealot]

this wouldnt work since you can rank players ingame to a diofferent rank ina group i would need to use apis somehow

[verbal bolt]

if you mean to say that you can modify a player's rank in the Roblox "cloud" so-to-speak then no, that is not possible

[frigid pebble]

you mean this "glitch" thing? https://devforum.roblox.com/t/how-to-create-a-rank-management-system-using-glitch/442725

[verbal bolt]

unless you would be so kind as to not be so vague in your questioning

[vast zealot]

yes

every dev forum says to use it and its unsafe because ppl can just take your cookies

[frigid pebble]

that makes much more sense than what you seemed to be asking

[vast zealot]

sorry im very sleep deprived atm 😭

thats on me

[verbal bolt]

wait is this a bot connection to the group lol

[frigid pebble]

so what this is doing is using your login token to send api requests to roblox like promoting members in a group

[verbal bolt]

yeah

[frigid pebble]

pretty sure there's better ways to do it like getting a proper api key

[vast zealot]

yea but i geniunely dont understand roblox's api system at all

[frigid pebble]

one thing though you absolutely need 3rd party web hosting

roblox doesnt let you send http requests to its own sites from httpservice for whatever dumb reason

[vast zealot]

yeah

[verbal bolt]

I am reminded of an API key being used to read and set a Roblox data store so I wonder if they actually have other things

probably not but hopes up

[vast zealot]

they do, there are many games that use it to rank ppl up in groups

ive seen it in alot of like resturant roleplay games

[frigid pebble]

more importantly, i did say earlier to just make an in-game ranking system. for what reason exactly is this not good enough for your needs? why does it have to be group rankings outside of the game?

[vast zealot]

idk, ive seen other games do it and i guess i didnt think of that tbh sorry

i thought that was the only way since ive seen many other games do the same thing

[frigid pebble]

the point is not to discount the tools already available

[vast zealot]

i didnt even think abt it that way tbf

[frigid pebble]

if what you wanted to do can already be done with existing tools there no need to reinvent the wheel

[frigid pebble]

those games that use these 3rd party api tools tend to be made by large groups with hundreds of games in their network

[vast zealot]

eh not really they are mostly small communities that im in

[frigid pebble]

they spam groups with bot account holders and large discord and web tracking

[vast zealot]

it just sucks because ive scripted everything to rely on the players group rank

[frigid pebble]

yeah i've noticed they tend to split each game into its own little group/community, not sure why but i've seen it plenty. it's kinda rare to see a group's games all belonging to the same group

[vast zealot]

oh ok

[frigid pebble]

more often if you actually check the people who own these groups, they usually have a lot of groups

[vast zealot]

yea that makes sense

[frigid pebble]

...but most people dont check

[vast zealot]

i just thought it might of been easier since theres so many ppl doing the same thing

[frigid pebble]

yeah that's what im talking about. they're the same people, or competing groups, all doing the same thing

[vast zealot]

yea makes sense

[frigid pebble]

it's actually rather impressive how massive these networks are when you actually do some digging

[vast zealot]

so would i just use values to set ranks instead?

[frigid pebble]

yeah you would have like a ranking value in a datastore

[vast zealot]

like if they have a certain number

[vast zealot]

ok

yea that sounds 10x easier

😭

[frigid pebble]

it would be very, very unlikely to see any genuinely small group have proper web services set up

i.e, they would have to have their own .com website

which is what Glitch appears to be, a free webhosting site

[vast zealot]

yea

ok now im not as stressed thanks so much

idk why i didnt think of it this way tbh