is it possible to rig this model without the help of plugins?

[wary estuary]

just experimenting with this, not really a dev also, i barely even know the basics,

majority of it are parts, wedges and unions, as the only mesh parts are the head and helmet model,
and i made this character out of an R6 rig, tho i yeeted out its humanoid parts and scripts before i fully made this thing.. can this be fully rigged and made from scratch?

once thats done, how do i make it as a "StarterCharacter" too?

[blissful bough]

Yes

[wind belfry]

You can manually create the motor6Ds. But the rig makes it faster that's all

[wary estuary]

are there any videos that i can rig this like the normal R6 rig?..

[wind belfry]

Take the rig builder as a reference

And try to replicate the motor 6d properties inside your own rig

[wary estuary]

hmm, i found a video, i think it somewhat worked?

[wary estuary]

this happens tho, the rig "works" but im just stuck up in the center of the map up high lol

tried using a spawnlocation, im still stuck tho and unable to move

the 3D uniform parts are unanchored tho, and it still does this

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[wind belfry]

Hmm well since you're using a custom rig instead of the player many things can go wrong

Like anchored parts, parts colliding with each other, forgetting to load the player's movements (I don't remember how to do it so can't rlly help with that)

[wary estuary]

nah, its the actual rig, i just did the motor6d thing as you said, tho the only parts that move is are the legs, i can see both arms and torso wiggle a bit when i jump, but its those are the parts that are stuck

[wind belfry]

I see the problem

Oh wait it's r6 nvm

Mm if they wiggle a bit when you jump, turn off can collide to all the parts except for the root part

[wary estuary]

hmm, it still does this

[wind belfry]

It might be an animation problem if the rig doesn't move

Can you show video?

And the script?

Use lua format for the script pls

[wary estuary]

shitty framerate lol

[wind belfry]

And you can't move?

[wary estuary]

just this part or entire script?

[wary estuary]

yeah, as the video shows, the legs move but the torso is like stuck in some sort of fixed position, is it becauses of the unions?

i unioned the entire uniform since it was like made out of parts, and wedges, so its just one piece each being wielded to each limb of the standard r6 rig

i didnt make a custom rig at all

[wind belfry]

Yeah i see

[wary estuary]

so, how do i make it workable tho? i didnt rig it as it was pretty much complicated for me lol

[wind belfry]

Alr so if you can't move i think it's a problem with the rig. Try unanchoring everything and turning off cancollide

[wary estuary]

its just an r6 rig being sticked with union parts

[wind belfry]

This should make the rig fall but you might be able to get an animation

[wary estuary]

everything is unanchored including both torso and arms

[wind belfry]

Alr and can collide?

[wary estuary]

yeah

[wind belfry]

Alr so if everything has unanchored off including the union parts

Is the rig animatable if you open it through animation editor?

[wary estuary]

holy shit you were right it was the unions that were anchored lol, my bad really, but it does this when i do so.

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[wind belfry]

Yep

After unanchoring do they work now?

[wary estuary]

the orientations go 0,0,0 tho?

[wary estuary]

i guess so but they go 0,0,0 tho

lemme try with that

[wind belfry]

Yeah you'll have to add an offset

I think it might work if you remake the welds while they're unanchored. Might not work so try with just one union first

[wary estuary]

the legs work but the torso's gone mad, and arms are paralyzed

[wary estuary]

how do i do that?

[wind belfry]

In the properties of the union parts

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[wary estuary]

ohh, pivotoffset?

[wind belfry]

I think so

But you have to delete the welds first

Then set the unions to massless

[wary estuary]

all unions are 0 and massless

so thats a good startup ig?

[wind belfry]

Yeah. If you delete welds does the torso go back to normal?

[wary estuary]

lemme try rn

like this?

[wind belfry]

Yes

[wary estuary]

then weld (motor6d) again?

[wind belfry]

So just keep doing that to all the unions and test the animation as you go

[wind belfry]

If the motor 6d is gone yes

Just test the animation

[wary estuary]

lol

[wary estuary]

the whole rig just collapsed

[wary estuary]

as i tried this

[wind belfry]

You deleted the motor 6ds as well

Wait

You rigged it into the uniform??

You can't rig like this. You have to rig the body parts to each other then weld the uniform into the body parts

[wary estuary]

yeah

[wary estuary]

thats what i did, the rig connection of the uniform (torso) is connected to the torso (thru motor6d, as part0 is torso, whilst part1 is the uniform/union part itself, tho correct me with this part as i have no clue at all lol, thats just what i did)

and now it does this

it breaks the arms positions

im kinda fuckin things up alot lol

please correct me in this

wait holdon

ill have to do it from scratch again, cuz for some reason the torso part keeps moving to the left

@wind belfry despite already making adjustments with the unions pivot, it still does this when i weld the uniform to the torso thru m6d

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[wary estuary]

neither can i change this also, it stays as 0,0,0

its always the same thing, its one out of the three that has its orientations go to 0,0,0 randomly whenever i do weld it right after

[wary estuary]

@wind belfry hmm i fixed it somehow? but theres still something wrong here, i made some adjusts but it makesthe union/uniform wont align, and it kinda pushes it back by a few studs as seen, arms wont move, tho i can see an idle animation on the torso and arms

legs are always fine somewhat.

did everything you said, disable both anchor, cancollide, adjust pivot prefixes (tho this worked by doing adjusting the "C0" on the uniforms and torso's m6d, but the same problems are still seen in the video

[wind belfry]

Yeah the problem is with the rig above the legs

Because it doesn't match with roblox's animations

Unless you made a custom animation of your own

In which case i'll have to see the animation in animation editor

[faint dust]

You can get the parts and weldieng them to the body parts of the character