#Discussion - ishtar112

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worn solarBOT
reef junco
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yeah i agree

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letting lower ranks watch other peoples ranks can also help give them a proper understandibg of the requirements

grave summit
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100%

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part of the reason i was so fond of public ranking is because it's a learning tool for everyone involved

small nest
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Rank ones have lower and simpler standards so an open chat about it is less needed that for higher roles where there is more deliberation

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If anything this promotes a fairer system for assigning higher ranks as it is far more open

grave summit
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This does not promote a fairer system there is functionally nothing different from putting the channel back into a public-for-all-but-read-only-for-most state

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Idk how u can say "it is far more open" when it is physically the opposite

small nest
grave summit
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Are you missing the part where the channel was read only for people who shouldn't have an input

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And the part where i suggested making it so s1s can also not vouch

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Wait what are u saying

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Wth

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You just said wat i said wat

small nest
# grave summit You just said wat i said wat

im saying this is a much better way as instead of deliberation being up to only a few rankers in a closed ticket anyone with a relevence to assigning the higher roles can weigh in
which is good

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that kind of open discussion just isnt needed for lower roles

reef junco
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im not really following here

grave summit
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hes saying that since it takes less effort to rank rank 1s that the channel should be entirely inaccessible for everyone below rank 2s

small nest
reef junco
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ookay but

grave summit
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I disagree with every point you are making

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My original suggestion was that nobody but rankers should be able to vouch

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And that tickets being public should purely be for the social reasons

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It forces the rankers to be consistent and transparent and again it's a learning experience for everyone involved

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I already don't trust non-rankers to accurately rank people

small nest
reef junco
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even thought lower ranks don't actually do shit?

grave summit
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Are you on my side like i dont get whats happening here

small nest
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as non-rankers can input

grave summit
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No it's not because half of us can't fucking see it

small nest
grave summit
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You need to stop assuming it's about them having an input

reef junco
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they don't already?

grave summit
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I have said 50 times that nobody of any rank should have any input

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It should be a learning tool

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And force the rankers to remain consistent and transparent

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You do not have any of those aspects when it is a private channel

small nest
grave summit
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Ok well i've told you 3 times now so

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Idk what u want me to do

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Empathy or something

reef junco
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because better understanding of requirements

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if a s1 sees someone getting ranked for s2 they can see how much skill they need

small nest
reef junco
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to get said rank

grave summit
small nest
grave summit
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Most people do not progress the ranks linearly

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Nobody applies for2 just so they can learn what it takes to be 3

reef junco
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there are also some who skip whole ranks

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since rankjng is also kinda subjective, it can also help define the limits that each ranker considers

small nest
reef junco
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one ranker could consider just buffers as s2, while an other cares more about optimization

small nest
reef junco
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well me entiher

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but its defjnitely s2 kinda shit

small nest
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well I mean I wouldt touch the scripting side of this server with a 10 foot pole

reef junco
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this also helps falicitate trying to get the vouches of specific rankers

small nest
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honestly yall scripters got your own issues

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you guys are the reason public ranking was made in the first place

reef junco
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it can alsp work with other skills too

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so why should it be private?

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for said low ranks?

small nest
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especially with how infrequent posts there are

grave summit
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Then dont make a public ticket LOL

reef junco
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true

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but you know theres still the old ticket system

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alongside the new one

small nest
grave summit
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do you think non-rankers are somehow less biased?

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they are worse

reef junco
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they prob are

small nest
grave summit
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non-rankers are worse. there is a reason we have rankers in the first place

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non-rankers are emotionally driven and do not have any semblance of mastery of their skill

small nest
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because In my situation I would be applying for b4 at some point and I do not trust a couple people with that descision
especially not the couple building rankers there are

grave summit
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unless the person is an rank 4

reef junco
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most rankers are max grade too

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i think

grave summit
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Every issue that has come about from public ranking has been because high-rank non-rankers are over vouching other people

small nest
grave summit
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Why?

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Because you know it's gonna be difficult?

reef junco
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grade 4 rankers

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being bones and water

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are u serious

small nest
# grave summit Why?

me an water hate each other and as much as I love bones I think she has like a small ego
not that the others are much better I jus think the more people who can input the fairer

reef junco
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oj wait u ment the people

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oof

small nest
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wtf elese you think

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I jus want as many people there who are relevent imo

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the less people the more personal biases show

reef junco
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How?

grave summit
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You are not void of biases just because more people are involved

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Every person is still equally biased

small nest
grave summit
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Or, accentuates it

small nest
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if there is say one person who can rank exists and they happen to have a bias
it's over
the chance of all people having a bias decreasing the more people

reef junco
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but uhh

grave summit
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Regardless none of this is relevant to the suggestion

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Lol

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This is an entirely separate issue from whether or not unrankeds and rank 1s can see the channel

reef junco
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there can only be but one ranker here in each private ticket right?

small nest
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which is good

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but there can be even more

grave summit
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You're arguing that you want as many people involved but at the same time that you don't want anyone unqualified involved however you are failing to realize that most people are still unqualified

small nest
reef junco
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then just don't have s2s

grave summit
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Why do you care who sees it

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I don't understand

reef junco
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be able to vouch

small nest
grave summit
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As respectfully as possible

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That's a mentality issue

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This is a discord server

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You will never meet anyone here

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You will never even know their real name

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Also

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Nobody in this server is ever going to care

small nest
grave summit
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Nobody is going to see you get rejected and then witchhunt you as the guy who got rejected

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You are not important and that is a gift

small nest
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ion want that ):

reef junco
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lemme guess

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all this is just related to personal experience

grave summit
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Would it happen to be the person you have issues with

small nest
grave summit
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Perhaps you should stop giving people reasons to have issues with you

small nest
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anyway besides the point

grave summit
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You just said

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Water hates you

reef junco
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its prob a one-sided rivalry

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from what i can tell

small nest
grave summit
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If you care about discordians seeing your roblox discord server rank application get denied perhaps you should take a break from discord or the internet entirely

small nest
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This isnt about my person beef with anyone in the server crying

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how we get here

reef junco
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well

small nest
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anyway this idea sucks / pissname opinion
gn

grave summit
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That's funny

reef junco
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he left

grave summit
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I see why people have issues with you

reef junco
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nah nah man don't add fire

small nest
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):::::

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):

reef junco
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fuck hes back

grave summit
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Pls dont ping me

small nest
reef junco
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he's being annoying intentionally now

small nest
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wasnt needed

grave summit
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I mean

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Nobody really said that

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Until you said pissname opinion

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If you think that's what i/we were saying, you misunderstood significantly

small nest
grave summit
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Jokes are usually funny

small nest
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usally

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but not always

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🫶

reef junco
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can we just end this

small nest
reef junco
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na

small nest
tiny pawn
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lets just get rid of public ranking

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the outcomes follow like 0 set of rules lol and regardless you’ll always have someone go against whatever guideline you have

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you cannot have ticket based ranking snd public ranking exist at the same time lol

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since they therefor adhere to guidelines which public ranking struggles to do so