💡 ## Developer Ranks* Developer I: Three Skill I Roles or Better -# Ex: Scripter I, Builder I, ...

[tough sorrel]

Please discuss this idea civilly, don't forget to vote on this idea in #📝︱server-suggestions!

[gentle pike]

I saw that

@coarse badger

[coarse badger]

oh mb

[gentle pike]

M m m merit

[coarse badger]

add that

[glacial agate]

No

Imagine you post in for hire as a builder for example

You’ll get more attention with the builder role

[fluid grail]

this would be cool if you have a shitton of skill roles

[gentle pike]

Also it promptes people to learn more about other roles

Like I have S2 and UI2

It would definitely make me wanna learn how to build better

[true plover]

WHY

i have already given good reason why this is a bad idea

just another unnecessary role
getting skill roles isnt a compretition
you get what you deserve
creating competition b/w collecting as much roles as possible can break the value each skill role holds

[gentle pike]

well its to promote learning

its a good thing for people to learn more

and maybe theyll discover a new talent

i would definitely say a bunch of people would be interested in acheiving a dev role

and if ur star rank in scripter, that still puts you above a Dev III

[true plover]

dude you really think people will "learn" more for a god damn role in a god damn roblox dev server?
no dude people will find way to fake stuff so that they can get as many roles as possible which is break the value of each of the roles

this stuff has been happening already

it just will increase after addition of these roles

do some rational thinking before adding anything

[coarse badger]

Promote merit more bro

[true plover]

fr

merit is prob the only good thing yall added in months

and you guys fail to promote it

its kind of shameful tbh

i sometimes dont understand what rocks you all are smoking

[coarse badger]

Also

Remove staff of the month

Promotes bad moderation

I know about the modstats yall have

[true plover]

yea things like staff of the month create a hierarchy too in the name of "i banned and warned more people so im better at staff"

[coarse badger]

Yeah lmao

[true plover]

other day i saw kae ban some random new guy who just read thier bio and she banned him because he "FELT" like a alt account because he knew too much without any poof

[coarse badger]

That was horrible

She kept trying to justify rather than take accountability

The mods here can’t handle any type of pressure

Then they get emotional

[gentle pike]

thats literally not how it works

[true plover]

on what basis is "staff of the month" given

[gentle pike]

qualitatively not quantitatively

[coarse badger]

Dude

Why do we need staff of the month in a roblox development server

It’s about roblox not staff

Get your priorities straight

[true plover]

yea that too..its adds nothing of value

[gentle pike]

• Strike system given out to users if they fail to do their jobs correctly, get reported, or break a rule
• Each leader of each department decides on 1 SOTM, so they know how they did their jobs.

[gentle pike]

How does if effect you?

It changes nothing

[coarse badger]

It shows me what yall are putting your time to

[gentle pike]

Yeah because we spend hours working on SOTM.

[coarse badger]

Yall made a role and system around it 😂

[gentle pike]

We had the strike system regardless of it

[coarse badger]

Strike system is fine

You don’t see me complaining about it

[gentle pike]

Strike system just shows whos ineligible

You just did bro

You just did.

[true plover]

ez

can you rethink the idea of "skilled-for-hire" again pls

i have given a lot of reasoning in its thread

it will discourage a lot of new members to join this server for long term who just join for marketplace

[gentle pike]

were opening the normal marketplace to non-skill roles

so then the skilled marketplace is purely for II and higher

it will encourage a lot of new members to get ranked and better so they can use pro channels.

[true plover]

does not help in the fact that its pain for new members to get level 5 for normal marketplace and adding another req. for a better marketplace will make them kill themselves tbh
and logically speaking if someone saw "skilled-for-hire" first they will always go there so it will decrease the traffic in normal marketplace channels too

[true plover]

right idea and wrong execution for getting more ranked people

[gentle pike]

Well #👷︱skilled-for-hire is locked for level 5+ to be seen, so new people can still hire from #👷︱for-hire

another thing

it wont decrease the traffic since #👷︱skilled-for-hire will usually cost more, it'll have less posts due to the requirements, and it has a minimum level for viewing.

[true plover]

so this means all grabage commissions trafficed to garbage commissioners.

wont new members see them getting way lower rates on average on rsc compared to others

[gentle pike]

no skilled users can still post in #👷︱for-hire, and they will continue to do so as it gets more views.

[true plover]

still keeps my point of shit stuff going to shit people

[gentle pike]

Isn't that how an economy works?

Higher skilled get higher payed.

Become better to increase jobs and income.

[true plover]

not even new member is shit too yknow

so this means good new members will still get shit rates anyways

and most new members who join for marketplace only wont really invest a lot of time in rsc just to get better rates when they can get better rates on other communities with much less requirements

and this has been the pattern for years now

even the level 5 requirement breakdowns a good ammt of new members looking for a marketplace to promote for past years

[gentle pike]

this isnt removing high paying jobs from #👷︱for-hire

and theres no paywall to get ranked for become better at something

thats how a normal economy works

Do a better job, get paid more

[coarse badger]

I thought it meant the levels to being fired

[gentle pike]

yes

but we also use it towards sotm since they shouldnt be getting strikes

[true plover]

yall still keeping this stuff?

[gentle pike]

allows them to see #👷︱skilled-for-hire but not post

[true plover]

also i dont think you are understanding the idea of "new people wont invest that much time just to get better rates"
but its ok i understand where you are comming from but i will say that ranked for hire might not be here to stay

[coarse badger]

Don’t say i was going after it then

[gentle pike]

Whats your argument then? If someone is not willing to invest time why should they get better rates?

You're argument is basically communism where everyone should get the same rate no matter what skill.

[true plover]

why will they invest time in your community only just to get a skill roles when you can get better rates somewhere else with less req.

[gentle pike]

Where else?

HiddenDevs has the same thing.

At least we have a public marketplace.

And we still have #💵︱hiring #💰︱selling-assets too

they can still find jobs in other ways

[coarse badger]

Also there were bigger problems to fix than the marketplace

Marketplace was fine bruh

[gentle pike]

You're acting like we spent a ton of time on it.

I duplicated the channel and deleted 5 role permissions.

[coarse badger]

Yeah it was probably one person

The 14 yo yall hired took care all of it

😂

[gentle pike]

I did it.

I made the channel.

[coarse badger]

Yeah yeah sure

[gentle pike]

Because in our democratic form of #📝︱server-suggestions a lot more people voted yes than no.

Same with everything else we impliment.

[true plover]

hd roles only have requirement of level 1
but you are keeping it level 2?

[gentle pike]

We have a level 0 marketplace

and we have a level 2

averages it out

we are still more open to new members

[true plover]

that is not how human brain works but ok

im not gonna argue more but i dont think you are understanding the difference between hd's market and our market

[gentle pike]

You're argument is that you want new, unranked members to get similar rates to skilled developers.

[true plover]

creating a hierarchy in a marketplace isnt a good idea but yea i understnad your perspective

lets see how it works out

[gentle pike]

Make a poll if you think it's awful.

[coarse badger]

Half of the voters were mods bro tighten up

[true plover]

what is this server avg time to get skill ranked

cuz HD only takes a few hours to skill rank

like 1-3 hours

[gentle pike]

depends on what you apply for

less than 24 hours usually

[coarse badger]

You guys purge ranks too much for the marketplace to be restricted to skill roles

[gentle pike]

its not

[true plover]

i know rsc's skill ranking is a bit more thorough which is a very good thing
but aint really efficient in case of hundreds to people trying to use skilled for hire n stuff like hd yknow

[gentle pike]

everything else is open to all

its a single channel for skills

everything else is open

[coarse badger]

The idea around it just seems dumb

That’s all for me

There’s claims that it’s for preventing scams but that’s just not true

[sharp rapids]

I think that maybe they can be done in clusters

there is little to no point in a modeller learning how to script. But builder/modeller/gfx combo could maybe earn a 3D artist role

Anyways, I think its an okay suggestion. It took me about a month to get rank 1 in everything (before the resets). You're not going to get to rank 2 in any of them unless you actually dedicate some time into them.

[sharp rapids]

instant marketplace was a terrible idea btw

[sharp rapids]

Have you seen the average HD dev though

And generally speaking if ur rank 1 you shouldnt be doing any kind of commissions.

[visual herald]

these shadings are so good bro

[gentle pike]

We'll thats what we expect

You can learn gfx and modeller if you want the role

but you aren't limited to it

[fallen thicket]

id agree

[sharp rapids]

tbh i think to resolve most people's disagreements they should start the dev roles from dev 2 and above, given that (from my experience) most of the rank 1's can be achieved in about 12 hours each

[split bane]

@gentle pike 2 things

One those icons are hot like holy

Two i actually kinda like the idea

Shows who the best of the best are

[gentle pike]

not the best of the best

cause someone could be star and be better

[glad cipher]

Bro

Literally

Repost

Of my idea

[gentle pike]

thats where i got it

[glad cipher]

Bruh

[glad cipher]

Atleast credit me

[distant mirage]

this idea is from studio developers

he prob got it from there

👍

[distant mirage]

he suggested it after he joined there

so...

[distant mirage]

LMFAO

studio devs is NOT like that