💡 We need either some curation for <#652584973278380032> or a #pro-hiring with high requirements ...

[coral grove]

Please discuss this idea civilly, don't forget to vote on this idea in #📝︱server-suggestions!

[gusty lodge]

I know growing and learning as a developer is the most fundamental thing for this place but I think decent work offers that incentivize actual development experience and networking are right behind that.

[cerulean pilot]

I don’t like the idea of this however if this is highly voted on i may consider

[white crest]

@cerulean pilot i hope you understand that all they're suggesting is adding one more channel where the minimum requirements for hiring would be higher than 500 robux / $2,50

[cerulean pilot]

oh im aware

my message still stands

[white crest]

ok

[carmine summit]

i kinda like it

this server just has sm channels

some could def be removed

[wary spruce]

I support

we need serious offers

rsc isn't s1 playground no more

[white crest]

exactly

[gusty lodge]

ik im gonna sound like a turbo dumbass

but like rsc could grow a ton if it had good and competitive offers

and like the whole market aspect was expanded more y'all could get so many more people around it could unironically become a development hub for everyone

[white crest]

idk abt expanding beyond roblox but ye we need to get rid of all the 500 robux offers and raise the minimum standard to like 1000 - 1500 minimum

[gusty lodge]

i wasnt talking about

anything outside of roblox

i should've specified a roblox development hub for everyone

not just a "development hub for everyone"

and not even 1000-1500, we could be speaking of way more

the possibility of job offers with hourly rates or big lump sums for whole projects and such

[white crest]

maybe a pricing chart where simple tasks have a minimum budget of 1.5k to be allowed whereas projects need at least 10k

[gusty lodge]

ig

[white crest]

then again the average rsc user is a child and they need every single specification as to what defines a project and what defines a "small task" outlined to them, i can already see that excuse coming from other staff or other users lmao

[gusty lodge]

i was thinking 5k+ for the task and such

[gusty lodge]

to ease in the payment in direct usd

[gusty lodge]

yea true

[white crest]

idk, im not looking to pay 5k robux for something very simple that takes at most 15 minutes to do

[gusty lodge]

well then you'd go to #💵︱hiring for that

[white crest]

not if we implement your insane minimum

[gusty lodge]

#pro-hiring would be higher scale and more important

5k+ was for #pro-hiring

if you wanna raise the minimum to 1.5k for #💵︱hiring that's also decent too

[white crest]

ohh like that

[gusty lodge]

I was considering it 10k but maybe that's a bit wild for pro-hiring

but looking into it it's just 35 usd so

[white crest]

in that case, normal hiring 1k minimum and pro hiring 2.5k minimum

[gusty lodge]

that's really bad

it leaves no real difference

you need an important gap from you to go from regular hiring to pro hiring

you're looking for another level of developer here

[white crest]

35 is a lot of money. but the kind of rule that id prefer is a "minimum" as mentioned before, alongside staff discretion whether or not the payment that is listed is "fair" compared to the work requested in the post

[gusty lodge]

well 35 is literally a pretty used hourly rate for professionals

[white crest]

so in pro hiring, your post would have to meet the bar twice:

• offer at least the minimum
• pass the "fair wage" vibe check. aka, dont expect a whole lot for what you're offering if it's the minimum, and expect your post to be deleted if marketplace mods think that your offer is too little for what you're asking for

[gusty lodge]

im not talking about vibe checks

im talking about a minimum

[white crest]

this is roblox. i do advocate for higher pay, BUT im not about to advocate for borderline $35 hourly rates. pro hiring should have a higher bar for sure, but i think setting the bare minimum to $35 or it's devex equivalent in robux is too high even for the average rsc user

[gusty lodge]

I think you're misenterpreting what I'm saying or I'm explaining myself incorrectly

[white crest]

normal hiring: 1k
pro hiring: 3.5k
this seems more fair to me in terms of minimums

[gusty lodge]

Pro Hiring is offers for actual serious tasks like more complex systems, being hired for whole projects or straight up joining a studio

I'd say the minimum would be 10k robux (or 35 usd in direct devex) for any publication, as we're looking for a higher level they should at minimum be rewarded for their time and extensive knowledge

There is a difference between kids wanting to start their game and needing a small script here and there (what #💵︱hiring is) and something way more professional and seasoned

With #pro-hiring ranks 3 and 4 (and even some 2s honestly they're pretty skilled) wouldn't have to go into the depths of hell in order to find reasonable, well paying offers and not a channel filled with abusive or inexperienced offers

[white crest]

if that's what pro hiring would be, then i am ok with your minimums, but i dont want pro hiring to be that way. it should just be a channel where people who are more serious about hiring & have a bigger budget to post to

[gusty lodge]

that's literally what im presenting wdym you dont want it to be that way????

[white crest]

you say it should be for bigger projects, rather than anyone who's just a bit more serious about hiring & having a bigger wallet

[gusty lodge]

"rather than anyone who's just a bit more serious about hiring & having a bigger wallet"

i mentioned one off things

im trying to encompass everyone that's at a higher level, both budget and skill wise

[white crest]

"more complex systems, being hired for whole projects or straight up joining a studio". all stuff that is ofc welcome, but not what i would want the pro hiring channel to be exclusively for. instead, all of that should be welcome alongside developers looking to hire for pretty much just whatever they want so long as they can offer more than the cheapskates in the normal hiring channels

[gusty lodge]

oh i guess i didnt mention that

yea just any task in specific

but I basically meant that with less trash in the #pro-hiring channel way bigger jobs could be done

but yea just any task is what I meant

[white crest]

so then we're on the same page. minimum could be at least halved

or we could take the average cheapskate offer and x4 that as the posting minimum for pro hiring

[gusty lodge]

if you've worked at the skill level #pro-hiring is looking for you know anyone who's serious about it will have the budget easily

[white crest]

you'd hope so

[gusty lodge]

there is no need to lower the minimum

[white crest]

i think the bar is too high but at least we both agree that the bar needs to be higher than what is offered in the normal hiring channel

[gusty lodge]

think that

if #💵︱hiring is raised to 1k

then any offers under 10k can just go there without much hassle

and the trashy offers would mostly be filtered anyway so these under 10k offers would be fulfilled

[white crest]

some offers there reach 5k. im honestly interested in how much is offered there on average. like take all offers from the past 6 months and see the average