💡 Force an age check on anybody that posts "homework" in <#1021053482544934912> of stuff that is...

[dim epoch]

Please discuss this idea civilly, don't forget to vote on this idea in #📝︱server-suggestions!

[dawn juniper]

imagine not being math blacklisted

[verbal temple]

Don’t see a problem with internet and ChatGPT there

[iron mortar]

If you call basic integer addition or multiplication homework, you're either trolling or under 10

[wet merlin]

chat what is 2+8

[final turtle]

2+8 = 10

[mystic blade]

Force an age check on every single person who chats in general. If you simply type "hi" without using any proper grammar/punctuation you are underage.

[lavish cloud]

this ^

[neat sleet]

This. ^

[obtuse stone]

no

[neat sleet]

Mods, age verify this man.

[iron mortar]

You guys are missing the point. If you ask for help with your 2nd grade homework you're saying you're not 13

If you just ask a basic question, there might be other reasons, but not if it's homework

[obtuse stone]

already age verified

[obtuse stone]

or you're trolling

[iron mortar]

yes but you're trolling in a way that's dangerous so that's on you

[obtuse stone]

it's not 'dangerous' lol

and dont forget that the average 13yo

1. doesn't have a brain
   and 2) doesn't have access to their id

[iron mortar]

it is in the same sense as saying you're under 13 here

[obtuse stone]

what next, force age verify anyone who smells?

cuz my god babies smell so bad

[obtuse stone]

not even close

[neat sleet]

Great idea!

[iron mortar]

well, if they go with the suggestion

[obtuse stone]

i know right? lets implement it now

[neat sleet]

Yes, of course!

[obtuse stone]

hell yea

[neat sleet]

😄

[brisk cypress]

Math questions that a 13+ year old should be able to answer is a very arbitrary and unreliable way of determining someone's age. The most reliable way to do this would be through the normal method: creating a ticket and submitting identifying documentation. However, this isn't the best approach either. By locking certain channels to verified 13+, we are essentially intensifying the burden, that is, keeping people's personal information safe. We only want to age verify when we absolutely have to for that reason

[iron mortar]

I didn't say any basic math questions, just ones they call homework that would be for grades well before age 13 (like basic integer addition or multiplication). And then they can submit documents to prove they're 13+ even tho they said they have 2nd grade homework

[brisk cypress]

Still... determining someone is below 13 because of that is prone to errors

education systems vary quite a bit as well as someone's personal circumstances

[neat sleet]

most of them are posts just to be funny by posting it in matyh

there is no way that someone on discord who should be above 13 doesn't know what 1+1 is

[obtuse stone]

lmao this

plus you should never force age checks in the first place, the existing system already has flaws + the average 13yo doesn't even have access to their documents, mommy and daddy safekeep them

"mom a server wants me to prove that im over 13 can i have my id?"
"no. are you crazy?"

[neat sleet]

but we do have to make sure people aren't under 13 here cause it's against TOS.

[obtuse stone]

leave that up to discord, that's their responsibility. rsc's responsibility is to just report to discord and server ban

[iron mortar]

you think it'd be better not to offer an opportunity to prove it first?

[neat sleet]

age verifying is giving them a chance before just banning them cause some people do have access to documents and don't want to lose development things here, and also you can always age verify in appeal server

[neat sleet]

what im saying

we have age verification cause people joke about it too, with age verifying, they have a chance to prove themselves before losing everything

[obtuse stone]

the point that bothers me is the part where you force it on members who haven't explicitly said that they are under 13 (therefore, you're taking action sooner than Discord would)

[iron mortar]

so vote against this idea. it's pretty clear chogi isn't interested anyway

[obtuse stone]

the only time Discord ever bans you and you verify with an id to be unbanned, is when you explicitly say that you're under age

suggesting it based on parameters you suggested like that homework example will never trigger discord to ban you

[iron mortar]

Just pretend I'm a crotchety old man that wants the dumb kids to stay off the lawn 👴

[wet merlin]

you could just be joking

i dont see any harm is saying "whats 2+2"

[iron mortar]

it's not allowed in #🧮︱math

[wet merlin]

well thatll get a warn then

not a ban for being underage

[obtuse stone]

i understand but you dont need to get invasive about it, especially when you're sending your id to a private individual/discord server as opposed to an established company like discord

[iron mortar]

generally I suspect they're calling it homework in an attempt to avoid the warn

[obtuse stone]

also you want age checks but you're not even 13+ verified yourself lololol

[iron mortar]

I also haven't posted that I need help with 3rd grade math homework

[obtuse stone]

and?

[wet merlin]

chat what is 3+4 i need to complete this skibidi homework for my ohio teacher or my mom will ground me for a rizzbillion years

[iron mortar]

so I haven't met the requirements for triggering the check that I'm suggesting

[obtuse stone]

that's like being a murderer demanding all murderers get capital punishment except for those who did it in self defense. sounds like a "rules for thee but not for me" type situation

[iron mortar]

if I give cause for an age check I don't have a problem sending my license 🤷

[obtuse stone]

if you're a murderer and you want other murderers on the chopping block then put yourself on the chopping block too

[iron mortar]

already did for roblox

[obtuse stone]

to be fair showing ur roblox age verification status should be enough instead of sending an id

in fact they could make a game just for that purpose because scripting allows you to get someone's age verification status

[iron mortar]

except I'm not in the same category as the people I'm suggesting be checked.

so in your analogy I'm just a random non-murderer suggesting murderers be punished

[obtuse stone]

i mean i believe that people age checking should be age checked themselves as well, and people advocating for more invasive triggers for age checks themselves should also be age checked

in other words:

• unless you yourself are age checked, you shouldn't be age checking others (mainly applies to staff)
• unless you yourself are age checked, you shouldn't be making any age checking related suggestions unless those suggestions reduce, limit or intend to abolish the age checking system. after all, i dont see why you'd want more invasive checks if you yourself dont just voluntarily go through the process like i did

[wet merlin]

this suggestion is trying to fix a problem that doesnt exist

[obtuse stone]

plus something that discord can handle anyways lmao

[wet merlin]

if a member says "hi im (insert underage) years old!!"

[iron mortar]

the problem is people being stupid in #🧮︱math and it certainly exists

[wet merlin]

obviously thatd be proof

[obtuse stone]

that's just a report to discord and straight up ban, end of story

[wet merlin]

but theres no reason to go out of your way to ban someone for

possibly or possibly not joking about some homework

in #🧮︱math

[obtuse stone]

but overall this guy suggests that merely indicators of possibly being underage should trigger an age check, which i consider a privacy violation

[wet merlin]

and assuming age based off that

[obtuse stone]

@wet merlin

[iron mortar]

I didn't suggest bans, I suggested age check

[obtuse stone]

^

so why aren't you age checked then

come on now go do the age check, i did it voluntarily so you can too

[wet merlin]

guys reporter is actually underage

[iron mortar]

I don't see why I would do extra work for no reason

[obtuse stone]

yeah right

i dont see why someone who you dont have proof on should have to do extra work to prove their innocence when their guilt hasn't been proven beyond a reasonable doubt

[iron mortar]

you don't believe in lazy people? 🤨

[obtuse stone]

im lazy

that's why i LOVE modulescripts and functions 🥰

[iron mortar]

you're not lazy when you did extra work for no reason

[wet merlin]

imagine how many ppl in this server hasnt done an age check yet

oh boy

your gonna be real mad

[obtuse stone]

if this was an 18+ dating server we would be having a much different convo LOL

[wet merlin]

yea but it isnt

????

[obtuse stone]

exactly

lol

[wet merlin]

what

[iron mortar]

dating discord server? sounds gross

[obtuse stone]

it is

dw

full of nsfw stuff 🤢

anyways your suggestion is an invasion of privacy (and so is the age checking system as it currently is as well)

[iron mortar]

in the US at least digital privacy is mostly a myth

[obtuse stone]

unless you have today's sponsor, DeleteMe

[obtuse stone]

im so glad im not an American for this very reason btw

[verbal temple]

Europeans win

[mystic blade]

europe would crush rsc