Ornaversary!!!

[flat sun]

I think it's a good idea to make one

[muted pumice]

lag spike in

3

2

[woeful lantern]

So its in 1 minute?

Liar

[cobalt tinsel]

Can we get the havels mug passive on an item with spiked shields stat line?

[ashen knot]

Please, I want to be a giant

[pine robin]

so the bosses are only in the monuments?

[cobalt tinsel]

Doesn't necessarily have to be ornaversary mobs but would be nice if other event mobs were in the monument packs.

[obsidian frigate]

I'm so in love with the sif sprite

[smoky nest]

but... but...

I may not be able to afford the largest pile, but by golly I got enough for the other two

How many memory hunts do I have to do before Ornaversary ends for 1bil total Orns 🤔

[abstract slate]

i wonder if the sword from covyn has the same view distance as having 2 hel bow

[woeful lantern]

Nop

Covyn why not avidity

Why view distance

[loud mantle]

Anyone else having dungs get stuck on continue? But not being able to click continue?

[woeful lantern]

Hey is monuments bugged? I entered with my Arisen Gandring and it used volley, which may be my world setup

But it appeared as A.Gandring

[pale blaze]

It's totally worth it

[lavish dome]

is the creator boss final floor of monument only?

[pine robin]

given you miss item buffs and 1 amity i think you can cap with pua and elysian coin at around 3M coins avg per memory but i can't be 100% sure

but i mean with pua + elysian + apo shrine + astral tree (do you have that at 4?) it should be doable "easily"

[smoky nest]

Astral Tree is T9 or T10
I have 1 PouA and really limited in obtainability.
I do have Elysian Coins and Apollyon Shrine.

[pine robin]

there is one pua in orna shop not sure if accessible for you as well, this event; 50 AP

need a ton of monuments to get though

[smoky nest]

I think I can make a bit under 300k per hunt with Coin and Shrine

[low remnant]

3 devs in 1 monument horde can be too op but can we at least add other event mobs in the pool

[pine robin]

it's already 5-6 PoT every fight man lol

it's already insane rn

[low remnant]

It's not nearly for me, but just a suggestion

[gaunt kettle]

Po...T?

Proofs of.. Trial?

[smoky nest]

"easily" is not what I'd call it. Thats a lot of effort for me, past present and future.

Possible, yes. Easy, no.

[low remnant]

Torment

[gaunt kettle]

oh lol

[smoky nest]

Imma just save up til next Ornaversary and hope it comes back. (and isn't T8)

[next flax]

I've unlocked the Coffee Item, where I can find it?

[smoky nest]

Curatives

[next flax]

Thanks

[cursive sorrel]

@uncut grove what is the math to find how much event exp you need to reach lvl 50 with the event?

[uncut grove]

it takes 7231 EXP to reach level 50, and bosses give 1 XP per, so... 7231 bosses

[cursive sorrel]

thanks <3

happy for the anwser, not happy for the anwser lol

about 144 monuments

[smoky nest]

ahh yes, a max of 557 monuments for me, a min of 290, avg of ~424 monuments?

[muted pumice]

Odie gives 3 exp

took that into account?

[cursive sorrel]

not really needed to be taken into account

I was expecting the event exp to be consistant with the appollyon exp ratio based on tier

[low remnant]

Cross posting here - would be really nice if monuments also were affected by EoD boosts
#💡│suggestions message

[smoky nest]

Nobody wants to mention the Latchstone?

Cause I like that one a lot

[uncut grove]

hitting level 70 (50 + 20) takes 12998 experience

[smoky nest]

Well I'll take the latchstone and etc.
y'all can wallow in despair (melancholy? idk) about the PouA

[gloomy veldt]

Are the bosses supposed to be in dungeons?

[uncut grove]

no, monuments

[ashen knot]

Torment technically

[gloomy veldt]

an dang.
I know myself (and some others) initially thought they'd be in dungeons.

would be nice to have boosted monument spawns (like thronemakers) with them being monument exclusives.

[ashen knot]

Best solution would be to just reuse the thronemakers buff imo, extra towers would fit in with the giants event as well

[gloomy veldt]

yeah, the thronemakers buff would be grealy appreciated

and probably easy to add in

[abstract slate]

Does anyone has the table of ornaversary waygate?

for the max damage to be done

[uncut grove]

If it never surfaces, you can look at their HP by hitting the Codex button before or during their fights and just add a 0 to the end

[gloomy veldt]

I think you should just be able to look at their codex entry, and then just mulitply by 10

[cobalt tinsel]

Are we going to get event xp for the way gate?

[cursive sorrel]

Damage targets for max rewards-
T5 Mochi- 68.1mil
T5 ob- 9.875mil
T6 MmmPizza- 38mil
T6 Havel- 23mil
T7 Dangy- 95.1mil
T8 Purrly- 108.6mil
T9 Flax44- 5.6mil (not a typo)
T10 Arisen Covyn- 132.9mil
T10 The Creator- 161.525mil

[abstract slate]

Thank you!

[cursive sorrel]

this is hopefully up to date

[gloomy veldt]

The event monument is cool.

I really like that there's an event boss for every single mob group

[uncut grove]

fun fact

[smoky nest]

Forg, its time to open presents again

[gloomy veldt]

Anyone know which followers can be obtained from bestiaries?

[gilded crater]

So disappointed I have no builds that use Sif. I love them, wish I could use the sprite

[abstract slate]

I want Goldie to be more useful 🥲

[lusty solstice]

It says you can find the followers in bestiaries, I'm assuming it is just non-animated versions?

Also the sprite size increase on the coffee cup item is genius.

[low remnant]

Says where

Oh, in Codex

I don't think it's true, just old description

[gilded crater]

Bring back equipping pet sprites on other pets

[abstract slate]

https://klipy.com/gifs/money-rain-make-it-rain-3--k01KS0RBEJGKJ4YTH2M9BDZEF69

[woven birch]

A+ So far. No notes.

[real bison]

Is it normal that if I complete a goblin mansion with one member of my party, it shows up as if the other member has already completed it, even though they haven't?

[abstract slate]

yep, they are shared between party members

[obsidian frigate]

Yes, deep dungeons are bound to a party

[spark brook]

Event mobs should be in pool for ornaversary monument. An original suggestion I’m sure.

[gloomy veldt]

It actually says

"Depending on the Follower, it will be found in Bestiaries, the Monument Guild Hall, the Event Shop, or Event Rewards"

And it seems like they're probably all just in the event shop
but figured I'd ask around here

[slender wave]

What's the cooldown for the arisen waygate?

[gaunt kettle]

4hr iirc?
could remember incorrectly though

[slender wave]

45 mins

[gloomy veldt]

I think the cooldown was 2 hours for me

[cursive sorrel]

If I pay to switch faction to fire, do i get kicked out of my kingdom now that faction requirement has been droped?

[gloomy veldt]

The cooldown timer goes down while you are in the waygate

[narrow snow]

Nope it wont kick you out 🫡

[hybrid zinc]

i just tried purrly's accessory, i'm still laughing

[lusty solstice]

Yeah I assumed the text was missed, but I had to ask. I was mildly hopeful I'd get a free non-moving-non-8-meters-tall mammoth reskin

[sterile lantern]

Please someone explain the monuments

Is it just confetti devs in each one

Or is it purposely drops outside of the class tree for each path?

[smoky nest]

All of the Ornaversary Bosses drop are Equippable by: All, so the path doesn't matter in that regard.

[pine robin]

torment, proofs of torment

[gaunt kettle]

Yeah I got that

[smoky nest]

The only appropriate item nickname for Mochi's Sweetroll

[iron onyx]

Monster remains can't summon dev?

[clever sequoia]

No just monuments

[iron onyx]

So the proofs +1 means 100% or just add 1.

[pine robin]

in melancholy it's +1. I never got more than 6, often 4-5, at mel 30

in monuments it's more though for some reasons. Not sure about despair i haven't tried yet, or agony

[iron onyx]

It only adds 3 in faction monument.

But for raid, it's double.

[pine robin]

monuments i got 6 from 3 opponents, 1 orna guy + 2 t10 guys

[iron onyx]

9 in faction monument but then double in raid.

[pine robin]

monument fight torment 42, 6 proofs

[iron onyx]

The other proof.

[pine robin]

monument is 2 instead of 1, orna encounters only have 1 event minion

so in your faction it's 3, in other monuments it's 2

[iron onyx]

Monument proof is 9 in faction monument

That's the max.

[pine robin]

not in orna encounter

it's 9 in apo encounters (3 event minions)

[iron onyx]

Ya that's why I ask, is it +1 or 100%

[pine robin]

orna encounter in faction monument is 3 monu proofs

it's +1 for some stuff

+100 for other stuff that must be coded differently (like agony)

despair in +1 proof events in the past went from cap 9 to cap 12 (with frag), not 18

agony from 40 to 80

if you try a distorted mnemonic it's +1. 3 proof of rememberance instead of 2

[iron onyx]

So it's not really +1 but depends on what kind of proof.

[cobalt tinsel]

Its basically +1 per drop. I am not sure why agony works the way it does. If you're killing multiple mobs it adds one to their drop

[smoky nest]

Deepshards is 2x

[cobalt tinsel]

It is? Last time we had an event I was only noticing around a 25% increase I assumed the type of rock mattered

[lavish dome]

it was def x2 last time once they quick patched it a few times to make it work

[smoky nest]

179 Deepshards in inv, Deep Kiln says +21, Deepshards refined: 42, 221 Deepshards in inv.

Yup. Its 2x

[cobalt tinsel]

Petitioning they patch despair then to give us double

[pine robin]

it was 2x last time, fellow kingdom members did the PUA there (i didn't)

[obtuse snow]

Amazing event , love it 10/10.
Only complaint, and a frequent one, too many overlapping events.

[iron onyx]

So
Most anguished proof +1
Raid 100%
Faction Monument is +1
Deep shards 100%
Memory proof +1
Bof proof +1
What about traveller and conqueror proof?

[cobalt tinsel]

Conqueror is +1
My understanding is that trials adds +1 to the roll, but hard to tell cause theyre so variable

[abstract garden]

My new favorite item

[smoky nest]

Anyone get lucky getting any of the NF Bosses as a Manifest?

[lusty solstice]

That's a thing?

I never know what to expect when it comes to those manifests anymore.

[iron onyx]

I can't tell too from only one proof to 2 lol.

Oh ya what are the buff we can give to EOG/EOD?

[carmine latch]

I didn't think bosses with God forge aura could be obtained as manifest? I could be wrong tho

[cursive sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1460399939912728708/1506407549962813510/IMG_6059.png?ex=6a0e26db&is=6a0cd55b&hm=63b54163488b14c1a137c3c96762dcc7cd464551dc6be9e1c33da40760b28ece&
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1460399939912728708/1506333492622135356/Screenshot_20260519-093117_Orna.jpg?ex=6a0de1e2&is=6a0c9062&hm=e846bd0eb4e15f18f439f14820ac0c5d41821d48e721aef255a0ce0c60cca84a&=&format=webp&width=576&height=1216

a few amazing pulls from my kingdom mates, IDK how rare it is suposed to be

dungeons end reward seemed to be way better in the first hours, now it is worse

[smoky nest]

you're probably right? not entirely sure myself tbh.

[cursive sorrel]

30 levels to go

I hope it is at least 1/5 of the needed exp

But knowing how this scales up. Probably more like 10% of the way there

[lone hazel]

i will buy the latchstone first then try the 50 one

[ashen knot]

I really like the latchstone. I think the addition of the PoUA was a big mistake though. The event looks super cool but now, instead of interacting with all the cool bonuses, I feel “forced” to just spam monuments non stop for the optimal outcome. I think it was especially unfortunate given the timing, since we had so recently been talking about how PoUA in event allegiance shops are probably a mistake and should be more limited in availability

[muted pumice]

uuuuh you sure you want to do that? if you want the poua I would advise against it

the 50 to 70 will send you back tens of hours.. unless you want to of course 😅

[iron onyx]

50 one better than latch stone

[lone hazel]

yeah probably wont do it haha, but latchstone atleast will buy then the others

poua isnt a objective for me for now

[cobalt tinsel]

I agree that feeling locked into monuments feels pretty bad, but I do think ornaversary is maybe the one event that should have a poua. Would be a lot more palatable if the fights had extra other event mobs to take advantage of proof increase, it is strange that the event monument is less lucrative than normal during event.

Only other complaint I would have is the main items I was interested in (mug, watch, clock) are all shield slot items which for most builds is a highly contested spot. It rules out these items for 2H and SS builds. Mug effect is the best thing added to the game and I would like to see that on something else, even a paid cosmetic.

[ashen knot]

Fully agree with the shield slot point. I’d easily pay for a 3x sprite size enchant on a weapon/armor of choice

[gleaming pollen]

When I was reading the description of the items, I actually thought they would be an accessory so I was a bit dissapointed to learn it was an off-hand item

Somewhat similar, most of my dungeon/monument weapons are two-handed for the multi-target skill, so it eliminates the possibility of using the event drops for farming

[cobalt tinsel]

Yeah outside of a few mage builds not sure where it would see use

[lavish dome]

Summoner

[gleaming pollen]

i guess to be fair summoner does badly need the faster animations 😂

[carmine latch]

Do we really need an item that makes BL2/all full AoE faster and better than it already is?

[gleaming pollen]

I'm definitely grateful for the all the AoE options we have now, it's just that when I saw faster animations and increased pixel size, having them as an accessory seemed like the natural choice to me

[lavish dome]

Even with the speed up it's still slower.

[gleaming pollen]

There are definitely some farming speed balance issues with the faster animations, but increased pixel size seems harmless enough

[gleaming pollen]

I guess it can be argued as well that sacrificing an accessory slot for faster animation could balance it out (less orns, less luck, etc.)

[lavish dome]

I barely notice the battle animation speed honestly.

[cobalt tinsel]

Im not sure it would be meta defining even as an accessory between the negative stats and loss of trevors charm.

[iron onyx]

Wtf how you put that meow in the background.

Also what's the cat in one of the instant summon item for?

[lavish dome]

It's purrlys cat treats

[carmine latch]

I definitely noticed a difference, this was just throwing it on my vestaga build (not optimized)

[iron onyx]

Wait that background is from the item? Okkk

[iron onyx]

It compiled the multiple hits. That's so much better.

[cobalt tinsel]

From my perspective, melancholy/dungeons are already often an unwhelming way to farm. This will be harder to run with higher AL and higher anguish, it would just be able to be run by all builds if it was an accessory.

[carmine latch]

This build uses 100% Horde bonus, meant for farming event Xp, dungeons are quite often the best way to farm event XP, which leads to people getting PoUAs, being able to shave 10 seconds off dungeons is massive and letting any build have access to it would be pretty meta defining

[low remnant]

Holy shit please share the build
I assume it's macha/mask/aaru, but it looks too good, not sure what are the rest

Oh, it's also 100% horde 😭

[cobalt tinsel]

Yeah I could see it being bis for event xp for particular events. But even as an accessory it would be a large trade off, I don't see why this has to be largely limited to ~2 classes. I'd almost always make the choice to keep my melancholy on and farm 10 seconds slower than to run this in its current state

[carmine latch]

This is the build, just swapped the Off-Hand for wristwatch

[low remnant]

Glad I managed to guess most of it. Still not sure how you have enough crit with wristwatch then, but will check what I can do. Thanks for sharing!!

[carmine latch]

I really don't see an accessory slot being a large trade off, I can't remember the last time I used a BoG/felt a single accessory slot couldn't be swapped very easily if I felt a build was lacking something

[cobalt tinsel]

At least from gilga perspective, I would either sacrifice a trevors charm (2h) or a fey serpent pearl which allows me to run some ruiarc while maintaining swash bonus. With the negative stats id have to lower my melancholy quite a bit to use effectively.

[pine robin]

watch is basically a GS/BeoA item. I think we are the only classes that can still AOE with offhand occupied, and we were by far those suffering the most from animation

[lavish dome]

I mean the difference is smaller than the difference in my two phones 😅

it might be usefull if an alt uses it and it applies to the party

[carmine latch]

I mean from what I can tell it shaves off ~10 seconds per dungeon, at least for me (not taking account lag and such) which is pretty big imo

[pine robin]

btw all mag classes can mage dance at anguish 1 with watch for event xp maximization; once you get to 150 anguish guild anguish proofs aren't as needed, not when we are talking vs PUA. Btw anguish shop is so bad with 2offered per proof i ALed 35 times without ever unblocking once with it (while i unlocked 4 times with shards meanwhile)

and anyway the animations do improve, but the white book of death in the upper right corner of every reward screen remains so...

[slender wave]

Hii, t9 summoner here, is there something from the event I should be aiming towards?

[pine robin]

this is what i mean with the white book (and yes it has always been like this on any device i tried -more than 10- and with every single telecom operator in my country -yes i tried them all, both mobile and fixed lines-)

[slender wave]

How are u summoning pandas in 1 turn, isn't it like 4 turns to summon?

[pine robin]

2 riftlocks normal build for gs in dungeons

[slender wave]

Ahh ty, did knew those existed

[pine robin]

cat from purly from this event is a lower version of the riftlock if you miss them ; oyu will summon approx once every 3 attemps in 1 turn with 2 of them + benefactor

[lavish dome]

The anti mamom amity :-p

[pine robin]

ye lol, still i can't farm over 30-32 mel if i don't swap 🙁

[lavish dome]

Personally ill throw watch on for t1 hard farms , gotta speed up those 5 floor runs even more :-p

[pine robin]

the hunt for the broken watch begins (unless at broken the effect changes)

[lavish dome]

i doubt it scales with quality that would be redonculous

but yeah to minimize negative stats

[pine robin]

no i mean sometimes broken item passives go crazy and change (like skull accessory)

so maybe broken watch increases battle length instead of decreasing lol

[low remnant]

(or ornate since there's no way to anguish for slots)

[pine robin]

why no way to anguish?

[low remnant]

doesn't scale with quality, so no, but would be funny

[low remnant]

you... can't even upgrade them

[pine robin]

ah haven't checked that k

[low remnant]

you can tell it was supposed to be accessory but changed last minute

[loud mantle]

Wrist watch should be an accessory imo

[gaunt kettle]

The world isn't ready for two wrist watches worth of speed

[lavish dome]

the real reason its not an acc :-p

[cobalt tinsel]

I think its pretty easy to unblock with anguish if you're planning around it and using konqs forecast. I won't argue that the poua is most important for progression right now but you can definitely be doing both.

[pine robin]

did konq update the forecasts with type of proofs? i suppose i would do both long term at some point but prebuying is kinda lame tbh, sometimes it's wasted . Anyway i am also wondering whether to stop at 250 or not; how high are you these days?

[cobalt tinsel]

Yeah it'll be done soon, but I think end of this month should have everything

[cobalt tinsel]

I don't prebuy too often but if I see its just a couple days wait to spend anguish instead of another currency I will

[queen aurora]

I dont know if anyone share the same opinion but I think some of the sprites in this event need some resizing

the boss version of the NF staff look a bit too small, while some of the follower like sif looks massive

[lavish dome]

Give them all havels mug!

cause ya their followers are 3x their size :-p

[queen aurora]

not all, gandalf, kady and whisky are all normal size while goldfish and sif looks overly massive

[lavish dome]

mmmpizaa / lily are comical, its like a manecoon on steroids

[lusty solstice]

It can help to see the PoUA as a self-imposed 2-day trip to grind jail. I won't speak for anyone else, but I certainly don't want to even think of using them with stacked boosters more than once or twice a year; the constant feeling of wasting it if I take any proper break sucks

[gloomy veldt]

Adding another 20% VD classess headpiece is a nice addition (Covyn's Porcelain Mask)

esp. since it's easier to get as it can be found in monuments (or obtained with coins)

[smoky nest]

The +15% VD Headpiece in T4 is greatly appreciated as well 🤍

[gloomy veldt]

on the counter side,

If PoUAs are more available then there's less need to go into 2-day grind jail since more can be obtained.
In other words, it's not as important to absolutely min/max them since they're more available.

[cobalt tinsel]

But its a nice prison, like when you sit in jail at the end of a game of Monopoly and get a shit ton of money

[past oak]

What I would give for follower sprite transmog 😭

[abstract slate]

These followers design look so good

[lusty solstice]

This is a double-edged sword: it could easily be implemented (just make sure it doesn't show to opponents in PVP to avoid confusion) but it would probably dunk the follower reskin sales.

[past oak]

Oh make it so it's normal pvp

[lusty solstice]

I can say I have had a hard time buying new legendary skins because the first animated phoenixrise pack captivated me

[past oak]

Make them just follower sprites

[lusty solstice]

Then again, wow transmog hunting drove people to hilarious pursuits for the sake of silly fashion. Maybe you hit critical mass and just pick out skins at random?

[smoky nest]

You see the Base Name (non nickname) of followers in the Combat Log/Menu, so you wouldn't necessarily even need to do that.

As long as the name is the name of the base follower under the sprite, then the sprite can be whatever

[uncut grove]

20.8%!

[cobalt tinsel]

Really hoping we get some XP from waygate

[low remnant]

Don't think it works with formula we were given, but I really hope so

[low remnant]

This message alone completely destroyed my dreams

[cobalt tinsel]

Polly raids can give up to 50 xp, even shaving off a few monuments would be very welcome

[obsidian frigate]

it so hard deciding on what i want to do

feels like if i lock into getting the poua, i'll lock myself into monuments for most or the entire run of the event

but i'd also like to do dungeons or agony stuff

[clever sequoia]

Just dont go for the poua.

[cobalt tinsel]

I've said it above, but would not feel as bad about being monument locked if they had 2-3 event mobs per pack, even just polly or giants mobs.

[cursive sorrel]

that's good, I am now at rank 28, so, getting there

Hoping to get to rank 35-36 today

[slender wave]

Where can I det the event pets?

[low remnant]

My initial plan was to somehow get poua with at least 1 day of event left, pop poua, farm T1 hards with spelunker torch and then farm amities during the rest (with coin ofc)

We won't get any amity boosts since natureblight is cancelled, right?

[low remnant]

Only in shop, for $

[slender wave]

What's poua?

[slender wave]

Ahh ty

[low remnant]

Proof of undying allegiance. Found in event shop too

[gloomy veldt]

The PoUA is in the allegence unlocks, not the event shop.

You need event exp for it.

[low remnant]

Yeah, in event tab, not the shop

[pine robin]

I'd pay some Eur happily to have the skins for summons. Panda in particular

[abstract slate]

i would love the fish bowl and the drone on my followers

and one of the dogs

[spark brook]

The grind for 50 event level with a single xp per fight is especially painful since there’s no additional event mobs to grind monument proofs at the same time. Makes it a singular, monotonous and all consuming endeavor. Pain 🐸

[pale blaze]

I hate all of these 48h consumables. I don't know why I originally intended to farm the PoUA - this would not only mean having no fun with ornaversary event (instead running monument after monument), but also efficiently using it later, restricting my gameplay towards monotonously using hundreds of DMs, which is also no fun at all. Fun vs efficiency seems like a very bad trade...

[languid hill]

Yeah I haven't even had time farm much cuz work

[cursive sorrel]

yeah I am at rank 30 and it is miserable

If they were in dungeons or something else, at least i could change things up

the end of dungeon reward boost is not in the monument

so I feel chassing this is counter productive to also doing dungeons

[spark brook]

Ye its pain and pops all the party balloons. But for all of us efficiency brained monkeys not grinding out the poua is a massive loss of progression potential so it’s hard to not tunnel vision on.

Other event xp is spread out amongst activities and came with normal play so it was a lot less noticeable.

[ashen knot]

Can’t believe I’m saying this but I’d rather farm the ragnarok PoUA all over again

[clever sequoia]

The lack of piob mhors I've seen so far makes me really wish the suggestion to change its rarity to famed was listened to. Ima still chase it, but so very sad

#💡│suggestions message It's just a positive change. Please, there's still time

[whole narwhal]

if we cant collectively contain the minmax tendencies enough to enjoy ornaversary, maybe the best solution is to just remove poua from the rewards

Just ignore it. Have fun. You’ll get it when you get it - enjoy the party 🙂

[ashen knot]

Removing it from all events is honestly my preferred solution, but that’s more related to how powerful it is. If anything, ornaversary is the only event that should have it

I like Geppu’s solution of adding the monsters from giants and Polly to the Dev fights, replacing the non event adds, just so that event monuments don’t feel less rewarding than normal ones

[whole narwhal]

It’s tough. I want aspirational stuff in there so that there is some shiny to attain after multiple event runs (hence the higher cost)

but making players feel compelled to say I need this right now let me grind my brains out isn’t good

[ashen knot]

I’ve seen people suggest raising the cost and making it purchasable only once ever, so people don’t feel as compelled to have to go for it immediately so they can go for a second one once the event runs a second time

[languid hill]

I'm not that OCD but there's some players that are extremely OCD and need to get EVERYTHING lol

[cobalt tinsel]

Yeah I'd be fine with the grind if I didn't feel like I was skipping other ornaversary buffs for it, additional event mobs would help. Would either add non-ornaversaty event mobs to packs or up costs and make multiple ornaversary mobs in a pack.

[whole narwhal]

There’s a famous quote in the game design: “Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game”

[cobalt tinsel]

Yeah I have that tattooed on my thumbs

[ashen knot]

Damn, you still have thumbs?

[cobalt tinsel]

But then people will never understand the cathartic feeling of walking through nature and noticing every small beauty after doing 3500 DMs in 4 days.

[cursive sorrel]

I am chasing it with the mindset that doing the monument is trippledipping on

• I get tons of monument guild exp
• I get monument tokens
• I get event exp
• I get TONNNNSSS of anguish token because all the packs are t10

That's how you need to put your mindset, you are not only working on one thing, but multiple small good things with a big reward on top

just the anguish farming of the developper monument is amazing on it's own since every other monument/tower packs normaly are not this high density of t10

currently event level 32, and i have gained like... 5 anguish level from it i think? maybe more

[cobalt tinsel]

I definitely get that and how I generally look at things, but this number of monuments in a week is a big time crunch, so trying to optimize my build now to focus pure event xp (and my monument guild is already done). Just in comparison to something like thronemakers, which offered everything except the proof, plus more PoM and a lot of neat gear over the course of a month. That may have just set some high expectations about what an event monument can offer.

[pine robin]

lvl 57 ornaversary is like 8500-9000 fights so around 170-180 monuments

[smoky nest]

I'm more in the zone of "I don't know what I want next, knowing I'm only gonna get so many Event Points"
Currently Event Rank 16 (7 points available)

I've thoroughly been enjoying the rewards out of the Monuments. The Allegiance is just extra fruit on the birthday cake

I'm thinking Elysian Coin and Myrkheim Hammer, then Aaru Anvil once I have enough? Or maybe the Gold Mushrooms, cause I can always use more Gold.

[cursive sorrel]

you are collecting the items that are normaly locked behind high tier quests?
I remember you chasing every chance at owning items you should not

[smoky nest]

The only one I didn't already have from the list was the Crest of the Dragon Slayer, which is why I grabbed that one first

but you are absolutely correct, I do enjoy collecting the high-tier and low-quantity items a whole lot

[obtuse escarp]

Just change price for poua to 20 or 30 AP

[iron onyx]

Due to the normal monument proof being higher than event monument proof, I have to switch between grinding event monument and normal monument.

Normal monument gives 9 monument proof max, event monument gives 3 max each group on faction.

Event monument needs double the time.
But normal main apollyon only need half of it, cause we can choose.
Event monument require us to grind every mobs in it and there's no other way to gain exp or tokens.

It's not just lock in, it's the only way.

There's no other way to earn exp or token.

That just broke me.
It's either I give up Orna exp/tokens monument or I give up Balor tokens/ max monument proof on normal monument.

The main event have a choice between, dungeon, raid, monument or even memory battle to gain exp.

Ornaversary have no choice. Only monument. And it's only once a year.

And then u have all the buff for other content which u can't do.
Proof buff and end of dungeon buff.

I got burn out from grinding all the content at once. Lol.

Raid(double proof) , bof, dungeon(EOD) , memories (giant tower) , event/normal monument (Orna exp/max monument proof).

One week FOMO is real.

[cursive sorrel]

oh, i 100 agree, and I cannot wait to finish the aniversary to switch back to balor

but I did not get as much anguish proof from the balor event as I am right now with full t10 packs

I am just trying to stay optimist and focus on the good part, instead of negative focusing myself out of this game

[iron onyx]

But at least u still can get torment from tower and normal monument.

It's not the only sauce.

For a one week, once a year event, that is making me feel like I need to grind to the max for it,
when there's other part of the event to enjoy.

If the Dev mob appears in other content, even the chance is low, that would reduce relying on only monument.
Eg, battle memory have balor mobs.
BOF Dev mobs?
Lost memory of Dev?
Traveller manifest fighting Dev manifest?
Special Dev torture dungeon spawn that have low 5% rate to find and it's like memories, it will only spawn when you move around.

[cursive sorrel]

would not be too bad if monument benefited from the boosted end of dungeon reward, or if they spawned in dungeons or gave more exp per kill

[iron onyx]

That makes the monument even more important to grind lol.

Anyway, back to my 6 hour grind. See ya.

[cursive sorrel]

just hitted event rank 35

16 more to goooooo

[dark abyss]

Please let me leave monuments

This isnbrutal

[iron onyx]

U are now in the monument prison. Only finishing the matrix will free you from torture.

[tender creek]

Not sure if Mochi is on discord but, if not, could someone from Northern Forge kindly thank her for the ear worm I've had stuck in my head the last couple of days 😂

🎵 Shawty got low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low 🎵

[iron onyx]

Where that song came from? My muted my music.

Fear thy meow!

[tender creek]

https://youtu.be/U2waT9TxPU0

Flo Rida - Low.

[carmine latch]

[tender creek]

Haha great minds

[pine robin]

anyone has the table with the AW hp targets at hand?

[carmine latch]

Easiest way to check is to look at their codex entry and just add a 0 at the end of their max HP

For example for Odie it'll be 161,525,000

[pine robin]

ye ok thx forgot they had a codex even if never killed

[lusty solstice]

This event has reminded me of something as I have been trying to godforge a weapon: arisen immortal lords and random birds got hands.

[fierce dock]

@frigid horizon song to celebrate Ornaversary is incredible, check it out if you haven't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-brXWpltO_k

And @pearl cobalt artwork too, unreal stuff

[lusty solstice]

So I was wondering what the pre t10 dev monument experience felt like and logged over to my t9 alt. First battle went okay, then a buggane in a purrly fight turned me into paste

[languid hill]

If I already bought latchstone this month for arch path
Does the latchstone in the ornaeversy saved for next months arch path to unlock?

Also does coffee do anything from ornaeversy arch path?

[slender wave]

Do you recommend using a crest of felling before the ornaversary waygate closes?

Will the rewards be bigger?

[smoky nest]

Rank 21 🎉

[smoky nest]

Yes, you can save the latchstone for any archpath you want to unlock.

[languid hill]

Yay thank you exp!

[languid hill]

Oh cute!
So just vanity for helping devs usually

[cursive sorrel]

big!

[iron onyx]

I'm curious lol

[cursive sorrel]

I am 5 event level away from having 50 event points
Can we have the ability to spent event coins for 10 or 100 of items? I don't want to have carpal tunnel inflamation from spending them all

i got 6k coins right now

my wrists wont survive the tapping

[languid hill]

Good know I'm not only one with carpal tunnel pain playing this lol

[iron onyx]

Side effects of gaming, you need it to be a gamer. I already got.

Or else you are a fake gamer!

[cursive sorrel]

@uncut grove Since you did the math for me

Here is the numbers

[uncut grove]

How much event experience do you have right now? 34 / 259?

[cursive sorrel]

14/259

[uncut grove]

a nicely neat 20 event experience gap

[cursive sorrel]

:D

to be fair, i got killed by imortal lords a few too many times

gained soo much anguish levels

soo many anguish tokens

[uncut grove]

(but for reference, I never really calculated anything more than a sum, we have the costs for each level from 1 to 146 with a special gap at the 111->112 data point)

[iron onyx]

Same lol.... So 143 monument

[cursive sorrel]

way more than that

i died at least 10 times

[iron onyx]

I give it 150

[uncut grove]

Ornapedia has a nice and dirty page with all the data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1Fa-J8DgF-5rkupEbOW90cREhmr6xukn_jGstjEfmo/edit?gid=683950943#gid=683950943

[iron onyx]

Shit I still need 120 more.

[uncut grove]

Including Richard from DG's best estimate at the formula, which does a pretty good job

for reference, here's a snippet of the two side by side (left = actual, middle = estimation, right = the difference for visibility)

[pine robin]

that's why it's called a wristwatch, you gotta watch your wrist when you buy it

[pine robin]

lvl 35 is 193, lvl 36 is 196 and i think that's the first step where the increase is reduced to 3

but maybe it's from 187 from your table (so lvl 33 187, lvl 34 190)

[pine robin]

Anyway

I never spent a token so another data point is 4107 XP total to reach rank 37

[iron onyx]

Damn u guys are fast lol.

[iron onyx]

Anyone can calculate how many exp I need to reach 50 from lvl 30?

It's roughly 50 exp per monument.

[cobalt tinsel]

Dont ask, that knowledge is a curse

[iron onyx]

I need to decide whether to accept this curse or not hahhha

[lusty solstice]

Just get the latchkey and bail, you will be much happier.

[iron onyx]

Life is not about happiness. It's about the Poua

[lusty solstice]

Wait, it is? Frick I've been doing this wrong.

Asking for a friend, how much exp to get to event level 80 from 30?

[iron onyx]

Better ask that friend to get Latchkey and bail.

Hahaahaaa

[lusty solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/bayle-elden-ring-curse-you-curse-you-bayle-igon-gif-8102587839544573256

[iron onyx]

I still need the answer so that I can decide to embrace the curse or not haahhha

[low remnant]

Last page should give you an idea
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1Fa-J8DgF-5rkupEbOW90cREhmr6xukn_jGstjEfmo/edit?gid=683950943#gid=683950943

Tbf from my experience it's VERY worth it if you figure out how to grind consistently at high torment
Amount of proofs is absolutely unbelievable

[iron onyx]

Last page? My phone can't see it.

Ok. Just found it.

4000/50 each monument.
80 monument so....
20 each day ok.

[timid hound]

Quick question, are we going to get allegiance points from the event raids in 2h?

[low remnant]

We don't know, but I doubt it

[iron onyx]

I think so. I hope so and I wish so.

[timid hound]

🥲

[low remnant]

tbf if you did just 10x damage and formula works as expected, you'd just get around 1 monument worth of exp for each raid

[timid hound]

That would be nice

I'd say highly appreciated

[pine robin]

you are slightly shor tof half the total imo; need around 75-80 more monuments for 51; but the real target is 57, can't leave 3 elysian and 3 tower coins there imo

[pine robin]

it's around 360-370 per monument for me (PoT); torment 42 shackled though not sure how many can do that

[low remnant]

Torment 42 shackled is crazy 😭

[iron onyx]

Shouldn't be the target is all of them plus latch stone! Hahahaha

[low remnant]

I barely made 20 work

[iron onyx]

Wait it's not 4000 exp to reach lvl 30-50?

[pine robin]

This with panda + jinn (benefactor) works at torment 42 shackled. Also cap luck + arch alchemy effect

[pine robin]

not sure check how many token you have exactly

[iron onyx]

I'm at lvl 30

[pine robin]

yes check the token which is total xp already accumulated if you didn't touch them

and anyway you need to reach 51 for 50 AP, not 50

[iron onyx]

3k , more than 4k left...

Damnnn almost 100 monument

[lone hazel]

my cort in inventory said this is ai

[pine robin]

uh?

[lone hazel]

im poor

1323 cort 😭

[pine robin]

can do with other summon stat gear i think anyway

[dark abyss]

Please let me out of monuments odie

This is cruel

[ashen knot]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-show-gun-to-mouth-i-wanna-die-kill-me-now-gif-19697205

[pine robin]

odie could make us all a gift of like 100 ornaversary xp per arisen waygate raid...

[iron onyx]

Monument is forever. Ornaversary is only once a year.

[clever sequoia]

At least yall can farm up to the poua. Chasing a legendary eod can be much worse

[dark abyss]

I'm doing both lol

7 monus per hour plus 20 dungeons

[iron onyx]

My laggy phone can't do 7+20.

[dark abyss]

That's the real p2w

[clever sequoia]

I know I'm grinding too quickly when my phone starts to burn my fingers 🙁

[iron onyx]

110 DM in an hour that's p2w.

[iron onyx]

At least it's still working!

[cobalt tinsel]

Rookie numbers

[iron onyx]

Wtf? How many is yours?

[smoky nest]

Don't forget that with the steps going from 5->4, the total number of DMs you use in an hour has changed

[clever sequoia]

My max was 148 but that was a mostly perfect hour not including lag.

[iron onyx]

Ya 110 DM in an hour for the new system

[iron onyx]

Damnnnnn

[clever sequoia]

Never again... maybe next year

[iron onyx]

148 with perfect game no lag.

[clever sequoia]

No sorry, I meant 148 with some lag. That was about when the servers started slowing down

[iron onyx]

Wtf there's more! My Android 11 is crying

[pine robin]

how??? it's almost 10 min per monument for me 🙁

[clever sequoia]

Low torment vs shackled 42? It's a big difference

[pine robin]

maybe 2 min difference? some fights are turn 1 anyway, some are 2-3 turns, a few secs more ye. I don't think it's more than 120 seconds per monument of extra turns though

[clever sequoia]

A monument takes about 4 minutes for me at torment 1

[low remnant]

For me it's like 5-8 mins depending on how focused I am

[pine robin]

with all fights done? i don't think that's possible tbh

[low remnant]

Ok this just can't be true

[clever sequoia]

I changed it

[pine robin]

it's more than 2 sec menuing per fight alone + animations floor change etc

[low remnant]

4 I can believe a bit

[smoky nest]

lol, I was gonna say, I can run a monument in about 1m 30s to 2m, but thats cause I've got 6 floors

[gaunt kettle]

These are my rates as well, if the server isn't fighting me

[pine robin]

4 min it's what it took me for apo event monuments for xp only doing the apo fights, all turn 1

4 min doing the 50 fights sounds crazy

[gaunt kettle]

Worth noting that I am wearing odie's wristwatch which speeds combat up substantially

and most fights are t1

[pine robin]

even with guaranteed turn 1 kill of everything which you can't have (because misses)

[gaunt kettle]

It's unlikely both summons miss

[pine robin]

ye but they ward up

[low remnant]

Since when summoners are better at clearing than us 😭

[pine robin]

or jinn genius immune attack

anyway it might also be HoA permalag

[clever sequoia]

I'll time a run, I could be wrong about how it feels

[low remnant]

There's a timer

[pine robin]

we have 4 perma monu so i time when i finish the 4th

admittedly, with some small interruptions all the time (including writing here and the like) it takes me 35-40 min including everything

fully focused with "my life on the line" i suppose it could be 30

but not 6 or more times per day lol

[low remnant]

I'm in Orna, but have pretty similar numbers (ig explained by higher torm and summon animations)
It's 5-6 mins if I'm fully focused and 7-8 when I'm checking discord/watching something

[gaunt kettle]

Just timed 5 floors in 2 minutes

[pine robin]

ye those i do believe

[gaunt kettle]

Could be faster if I didn't mislick a bunch of times

[low remnant]

Well, again, 5 mins is kinda possible if you are in WR speedrun mode but it's impossible to do 150+ like this

Oh, well, ig I also spend some time reloading berserks here and there

[pine robin]

i have to move on map to open the 4 so i guess 90 secs for the 4 are from that for me on hoa

[pine robin]

ah GSA can have 0 zerks

[low remnant]

I really can't and I'm at the point where I'm very close to creating professional hydra hate club

(Immortals too, but at least they can be one shotted)

[pine robin]

This is a lucky floor (more low HP than avg t10s)

also lower lag than usual

[iron onyx]

4mins per monument. U guys are crazy.

Even moving the character took me few seconds.

[low remnant]

That's really fast 😭

Like... all of your animations feel 3x

[pine robin]

that's kinda optimal perfect conditions 40 sec anyway

[clever sequoia]

https://youtu.be/qiLFR-dgj7o?si=Og0bm4UXRYA_xkoU Barely made it under 4 mins with some extra time taken cuz I forgot to change classes. Ok maybe 4 mins average is a bit much, 6 is much more reasonable

[dark abyss]

Out of curiosity. Why did covyns eye get attack and not magik

There is already sekhmets with attack on it

There's no Crit and magic adorn lol

[low remnant]

Cause it's a copy of sekhmet

[dark abyss]

🙁

But I want Crit mag

[low remnant]

Hey, we have similar option! Moondust gives us similar mag (except we lose already non-existent def and there's no crit)

[dark abyss]

So nothing similar at all lol

[low remnant]

You may be correct

Well, just find 40% crit + hybrid option and you'll get a few incredibly niche builds which can be boosted by att

Anyway, I'm done joking here. Buff deity

[dark abyss]

Lolol

[dark abyss]

Why does deity need buffs.
It's just a better hera

Buff hera

[low remnant]

Here's the thing: it's better everything, so if the ceiling is higher then we also can have a chance at Hera buffs

[dark abyss]

True

[gloomy veldt]

Can't you just Bolt IV everything to 1-shot if it's T1 stuff?

Pretty sure it "just works" like perfect shot or sands of aaru

[pine robin]

i don't understand what you mean, is bolt IV aoe?

[gloomy veldt]

oh

no

[low remnant]

It's about monuments, not dungeons

[gloomy veldt]

I saw "T1" and assumed T1 hard mode dungeon

ah

[pine robin]

no it's about clearing turn 1 (t as in turn)

[gloomy veldt]

oooooh

😅

[smoky nest]

lol, now I'm imagining a T11 whiffing against a T1 mob

[gloomy veldt]

it can happen

[pine robin]

at low torment you can expect to clear most things t1, but not guaranteed because misses et cetera

[gloomy veldt]

I have first-hand experience

[pine robin]

and then someone else said that with GS it's harder to miss because of 2 summons doing aoe attacks (most of the times, not always)

[gloomy veldt]

ah

[slender wave]

Will crest of the felling work?

20 mins left

[clever sequoia]

no

[slender wave]

Ty

[spark brook]

So. No event xp from the big bois? 😅

[low remnant]

Honestly was 0 reason to think there will be any

[ashen knot]

Your birthday gift this year is pain

[ashen knot]

Every other event raid gives it

[low remnant]

Yeah, but it's not regular event raid

[spark brook]

There was definitely reason. But I also wouldn’t have been surprised either way.

[dark abyss]

Sad.

Back to the grind

This event hasn't been fun. It's just painful

[spark brook]

Instead of grinding.
Why not dance
🕺

[dark abyss]

Because I need poua lol

[hybrid zinc]

Thank you very much Dangy man, much appreciated

[smoky nest]

You've only convinced yourself you want it, when its far from necessary

[dark abyss]

You're literally the most negative person on this entire discord

[low remnant]

I really thing he meant it in kinda positive way (which is don't burn out for item which forces you to another 48 hours burn out grind)

[dark abyss]

I'm not gonna burn out lol. I'm almost there.
But just like everyone can decide for themselves if something is necessary or not

[lusty solstice]

I've been noticing that Dangy has been blocking and dodging a weirdly large number of attacks for me this event, so I'd like to put forth a change request: add a passive to all Dangy version gear that changes "blocked" text to "flexed" and "miss" text to "flexed on".

[ashen knot]

Yea, putting the most useful consumable in the game in there and then just telling dedicated players “just don’t grind it” isn’t really a great take imo

[dark abyss]

Yup

He's just being annoying lol

[obsidian frigate]

disagreeing with someone is fine, just keep it civil in here. Pless is far from the most negative person on this discord

[lusty solstice]

I don't think anyone is trying to annoy you. If you want to go for it, go for it... But if you are going to commit to that grind, you aren't going to get much sympathy when you call it painful.

[dark abyss]

I'm far from the only one calling in painful in here

It's been discussed to death

[lusty solstice]

Yes, a chunk likes to hurt themselves for optimal progress. That isn't new.

[dark abyss]

There's a lot of people who want to grind this out as well but can't because they got poor monument spawns this week

[ashen knot]

Almost every event has had changes to make them feel less painful after community feedback. I don’t see why it should be any different for the big anniversary event. Should people not give their feedback?

[dark abyss]

Especially ornaversary

[lusty solstice]

Not give feedback? Nah. I used my first PoUA recently and I can't stomach doing that more than once a year, so I find it difficult to sympathize with everyone going ham for the 50 point prize.

[dark abyss]

Nobody is asking for sympathy...

[ashen knot]

Your lack of empathy towards people grinding it doesn’t mean their takes are less valid

[lusty solstice]

No one is asking for sympathy, no. But you can leave it at complaining and not going in on other users here.

[dark abyss]

Who's going in on other users?

[lusty solstice]

You.

[dark abyss]

Uh huh

I've had two interactions with expless

1. him telling me not to complain about lag

2. him telling me that I don't need a poua

People in general don't like being told what they want and don't want

[lusty solstice]

I didn't ask for your life story, just act like a reasonable person.

[dark abyss]

You're acting like I'm freaking out or something

[smoky nest]

My comment was meant to provide a moment of introspection. If you're describing the grind as "painful", that sounds like to me that you're not enjoying playing the game, which (in my mind) isn't healthy. Games should be an enjoyed experience.

You have my condolences if you feel I've overstepped or been annoying. Feel free to block me if you want to engage less.

[dark abyss]

I appreciate the apology and I'm sorry if I've been overly hostile.

I'm just far from the only one commenting on this specific mechanic right now, sadly.

[spark brook]

Hey guys I think the pizza just got here. Who wants pineapple?

[fierce dock]

ew

[smoky nest]

As long as it doesn't have ham, sure, why not. I'll give it a try.

[spark brook]

Pineapple, anchovies, surströmming
Everything desirable

[fierce dock]

surströmming
Alright time to wind up the wheel of banning

i can smell it just by reading that word

[spark brook]

I died on a hill I can be proud of
Fermented shark and salted licorice for desert.

Also why didn’t you drop any ornates for me

Rude

[fierce dock]

haha, i've been stripped clean

nothing left

[lavish dome]

Over here still waiting on my way gate haul. Wondering if dangy stole it

[lusty solstice]

I think Dangy is on high alert after giving away thousands of house keys today.

[lavish dome]

Makes sense

[tender creek]

I had noticed with the number of broken and poor chinos and t-shirts.

Ask Odie for a pay rise so you can treat yourself to some clothes that aren't threadbare 😛

[iron onyx]

Exp less just trying to persuade us to be the hard mode follower.

Doing orna on hard mode. Lol.

I see what you did there.

[tender creek]

So.. Just noticed Covyn included a cat's butthole on these boots 😂

[spark brook]

Censor that please 😳

[lucid sorrel]

it's already pixelated!

[iron onyx]

Wait a minute...

That's a red 🔴

[muted pumice]

is anyone else rather farming the regular monuments than the event ones? It's weird that you get more guild exp, more proofs from a non-event one. More so that we are talking about Ornaversary here...

[lavish dome]

mnemosyne towers and mystic caves here, got spelunking from 13 to 26 so far

[muted pumice]

I'm farming the hell out of those monument proofs 😄 gotta buy the mnemonics somewhere..

[lavish dome]

5 menosyne towers is 11 DM and takes < 5 minutes to clear, so dont sleep on em either :-p

[muted pumice]

how do you get dm from them? the random chance floor rewards?

[lavish dome]

12k tower shards

[muted pumice]

oh I thought you meant the gimmick tower, gotcha

[lavish dome]

gimick towers are slower, but you still get 1 DM per tower there, but man o man ive seen nothing but trash amity from either tower

[muted pumice]

same 😄 btw olympian coin doesn't work on the event towers right? it is locked at 12k?

[lavish dome]

correct

[languid hill]

Nah, I want the ornaeversy event experience more

[final kestrel]

So I've been farming Purrly in monuments, and last night I noticed the stats of his summons were lower than usual. (Like at least half) but today they're back to normal. Is there any reason why this could have happened?

[iron onyx]

I'm farming it for torment proof.

[cursive sorrel]

the event one is massive for torment farming

[iron onyx]

Anyways, I'm giving up farming for lvl 50. Gonna enjoy the other content for the last 3 days.

[real bison]

They should include spelunker's torches in some pack or as an event reward.

I need it 🥺

[lavish dome]

Should totally add them to arch paths and event shops.

[spark brook]

Someone give me a shot of adrenaline to the heart so I can push for this poua 🫠

[frigid horizon]

”Shot to the heart! Farm all day! So you can gain PouA” 🎵

[cursive sorrel]

This month " what about second poua farm"

[iron onyx]

Broooo.

[cursive sorrel]

i am 30 event level from the apolyon one :D

[iron onyx]

I think this is easy ahhhh

[cursive sorrel]

Thankfully with the appolyon one, I can do it with friends

[iron onyx]

And you don't have to do it on the same content.

[pine robin]

you don't but doing it in monuments is optimal right now especially

[iron onyx]

Even for apollyon? I thought horde dungeon is better with full gears?

[pine robin]

i finished it on may 18 full monuments thinking "with ornaversary i will be doing dungeons-only for eod and moondrops and the new additions"... only to have to do monuments again

[pine robin]

double PoM during ornaversary is insane , xp was approx the same per minute before, now slightly lower in dungeons because giant event dilutes apo encounters a bit

[iron onyx]

XP should be the same. I thought you can disable the giant mob?

[pine robin]

ah well yes you can but it's suboptimal resource-wise

[iron onyx]

And it's not double PoM though?

[pine robin]

anyway "not my problem" anymore, i got the apo PUA

[iron onyx]

It'd just +3

[pine robin]

it's double PoM on non-faction, +50% on faction

[iron onyx]

So 6 on normal and 9 on faction.

[pine robin]

yes

• infinite proof of torment

[iron onyx]

That's true you get both. Dungeon don't get that much

[abstract garden]

Same

I wanted to do a more even anguish farm but instead I've got like 7 torment levels and like 10 agony, wanted this to be the event I finally touch despair

But I'm gonna go for 3 poua in 1 month

Also don't like how devs except odie only give 1 event exp, it further forces players to do the one content for even longer

[abstract garden]

They have to, there's no reason for it to be this rate yet last 1/8th of the time as a 48 hour item, yet be 10 times more rare

Also annoying how ornaversary added poua and archpath key in the same event, since it's basically impossible to farm both in a week

[spark brook]

We on the final lap boys

[languid hill]

Woww

I just got to level 20

[empty sequoia]

Next year I would personally love an Ornaversary questline with a unique quest from each of the devs, it feels strange that there's no questline when it's the perfect opportunity to get a bit of dialogue from each dev!

[iron onyx]

The quest will be.

1. Buff this class. Dev : No.
2. Nerf this class. Dev : No.
3. We want this. Dev : No.

[pine robin]

so the official answer to the question, how many XP are needed to reach level 51 is 7207

[iron onyx]

Damn it I'm at 4.6k. Not gonna make it with one day left.
Congrats to those who did!

[pine robin]

now i have to do 1600 xp more approx , for the 3 elysian coins and the 3 tower coins (i might stop after the elysians though)

[iron onyx]

Easy! 1 more day to go!

[devout badge]

Was it really necessary to have the Dev monument battles inundate us with trash?

[smoky nest]

I may be misremembering (and finding a conversation I only somewhat read is really hard) but I think part of that was because the Thronemakers Themed Monument had other events appearing in them, and people didn't want the pool being diluted, so it was made to be a "Themed Monuments are only that Event". Or this was what people wanted, and now it happened?

[fierce dock]

Ye, Thronemakers feedback

[iron onyx]

The offhand buff looks good if you use reduce turn celestial staff.

The no follower weapon is a slightly better version of the original version.

The adorn is good.

The remote is good for PvP.

[fierce dock]

I may not be much, but hopefully I'm not trash. Go after me

[smoky nest]

I believe they're referring to the pairings with the Ornaversary bosses. Because there's no Ornaversary monsters, there's no valid Event pairings for them, so it defaults to just picking base game monsters.
-# Update: I was wrong

[iron onyx]

Purrly boots are good too.

[devout badge]

I’m referring to the endless supply of red gems and other random drops that don’t come with these mobs

[smoky nest]

Ahh, the Mimic Loot Pool drops!

[fierce dock]

Mimic Pool drops, and the allegiance rewards are nothing to sniff at

[smoky nest]

I love em 🤍

but I completely understand not wanting a bunch of stuff out of the Mimic Loot Pool

[fierce dock]

Mimic pool drops is a good thing. Lil extra stuffs, tis nice

[devout badge]

Eh, it’s just a lot of extra inventory maintenance when turning on auto-drop is certainly not in your favor

[lusty solstice]

NF has it figured out: if they buff up the drop pool with small needless stuff, they can get our hopes up with increased end of battle ornate notices from stuff we don't want

On a serious note: get used to locking everything you want and then going page by page selecting all to dismantle/junk. Makes it much easier to clean up.

[smoky nest]

Mimic Loot Pool does contain some stackable goodies like candles, fishing lines, and empty bottles. Great stuff for everyone.

[lone hazel]

i like the health adorn t3

[devout badge]

I’ve been playing for eight months and I have no need for any of that stuff ever again

I could literally never run out if I wanted to

[pine robin]

i think he meant that every single dev drops random accessories/adorns so our inventory is under attack , and i will have to spend 1 hour at the end just to clean it

[pine robin]

only if you give as a way to autodrop them without autodropping other stuff which we don't have

or i mean if inventory didn't slow down the game

[iron onyx]

That's what I said when I dismantle all my low tier ornate gears....

I cry now.

[devout badge]

It’s not like they’re dropping low-tier end of dungeon gear

[pine robin]

Jewels of health are usually bis for t3 OS

But aside from that there is very little of note

[spark brook]

My hands hurt 🐸

[cursive sorrel]

congrats

i am slowly recovering from my push

working on the Appolyon one

[cursive sorrel]

I forgot to spend my event tokens and sadly there is no "I want 100 rolls of this item"

aint no way I am spending 7k tokens tomorow morning

[iron onyx]

Welcome to the real grind lol

[spark brook]

I just used them on mats

[cunning torrent]

Well COVYN

Since you didnt wanna help me

I just bought myself your sword 😌

[cursive sorrel]

300x 30 balorite

that's how I burned the rest and save me from a future matlock on a material I am low on

[woven mauve]

So, what's the roll meta? 😂

Vd doesn't increase with ornate right

[ashen knot]

If we didn’t have carpal tunnel from 150 monuments in under a week, we certainly have it after spamming buy 600x 😅

[low remnant]

yep, doesn't scale at all

[frigid horizon]

FYI for those last minute dungeons - the server lag can apparently uncheck hard mode (on iOS)

[lone hazel]

im hating this lag, trying to do dungeons and barely loading 🙁

[loud mantle]

This is a bug thats been happening for a while. (Android)

[clever sequoia]

Welp, over 1000 dungeons run with astral tree active and spelunker, only 2 piob mhors seen, one legendary one superior. Would've really liked, and would still like, it to be changed to famed rarity because it's pretty annoying it's locked behind EoD farming.

[low remnant]

Goodbye, Ornaversary! Was my first one and damn, that was a nice celebration. Thanks team ❤️

[real bison]

I use astral tree, spelunker torch, poua, hard mode and dungeons like chaotic portal and battlefields, and only have 1 BOG ornate

[clever sequoia]

How many bogs did you see though?

[real bison]

10, 1 ornate, 1 legendary, 3 famed and 5 superior

[sage ridge]

First ornaversary here too, and loved every bit of it! Thank you, orna team!

[whole narwhal]

🎉

[loud mantle]

Really cool event! Thanks NF!

[ashen knot]

Probably my least favorite event of the year so far (it’s been a great year for events tbf), but that’s coming from a hyper specific point of view. I still hope we either see PoUA stop being added to events or at the very least made one-time purchases only.

Enjoyed the new changes to the event, the effects of the dev team gear pieces are pretty cool (please let me buy a 3x sprite size mod to apply to any piece of gear)

[lavish dome]

I feel all the dev gear being meme gear does make it so you don't fomo as hard. That said I stopped at event rank 26 and still had multiple of every ornate.

[timid hound]

Covyn mask isn't that much of a meme, neither mochi boots

[lavish dome]

But neither are super relevant at t11 and covyns mask is arguably worse than Ramsey mask

[clever sequoia]

No it isn't, it's eastern mask but better and it's very relevant at t11

Having ursa's edge makes it valuable for getting into redline, especially in tower fights after your pet casts db, and it looks fkin cool

Half the battle at T11 is cosmetic

The mask itself has amazing ward, no defense which is great for swash, and a reliable zerk proc in horde battles

[fierce dock]

Covyn's mask doesn't have berserk proc 😅
It got ursa's edge instead

[clever sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-cat-thumbs-up-cat-cry-thumbs-up-crying-cat-ok-cat-gif-5747260357834857776

I take back what I said about the usefulness, it still looks cool

[fierce dock]

Yeah lil different, but makes sense to have assumed it matches

[lusty solstice]

Hey I have a 20% view distance head item on all of my alts now, it's amazing

[spark brook]

The ornaversary event xp grind was the most painful grind I’ve experienced since starting the game. But it was a self imposed grind so I guess I like to suffer 🥲 🐸

[gloomy veldt]

Ornaversery was nice.
I didn't grind it super hard.

A lot of the non-meme gear is functionally identical to other event gear which is a good thing.
Event-gear being critical for certain builds is a pain point at times, so having reskinned functional duplicates of other event gear is great

The main exception is the 20% VD head pieces which isn't a huge deal, and can be gotten at any rarity.
(and there are 10% VD head pieces from other events which helps)

It's also nice that there's another source if "instant summon" aside from the riftlock stuff.
Having that effect more accessible is nice.
and again, the rarity is not too important for that.

Good little event 👍

[loud mantle]

The covyn eyes and sword are legit at t11

[gloomy veldt]

Aren't the eyes basically the sekmet eyes?

oh, I didn't really notice the sword

oh now I kinda want that sword

Best one I have rn is Superior

oh, the sword is basically the "Eastern Regalia"

[loud mantle]

a better Eastern Regalia and a better Sekmet eye because of the 1 dex lol

[gloomy veldt]

If you're using the sword for the View Distance you're doing something wrong lol

[woeful lantern]

Yeah is a cooler eastern regalia, not better sadly

[cunning torrent]

Why better? 🤔

[loud mantle]

way easier to get and has VD. vd is kinda worthless if you know what you are doing. But 7 pts per roll it was pretty easy to get an ornate.

[timid hound]

I still like it for the instant redline so I can use it on my bof Dorito,can't use the mask on it cause I can't survive the berserk until I find a 40% crit and 5% hp regen

[languid hill]

I only got to level 20 and got the arch path unlock thingy

[lone hazel]

same, it was a good grind anyways

[lusty solstice]

I got the latchkey and 2 other rewards. I felt the event was great, I'm liking the very miscellaneous item reskins and it was awesome to get more sek- I mean, more Covyn eyes.

My only criticism is to watch for the power you put in the event encounters at t9. I said earlier in this topic that the Purrly Buggane turned my t9 alt to paste; I worked around it because I understand the game well, but fresh t9s are probably getting nuked from orbit

[empty sequoia]

Absolutely loved the event and had so much fun facing off against all the developers and stealing all their ornates!! My favourite part was being jumpscared after equipping the cat treats, totally wasn't expecting that! My personal feedback would be 3 things:
1: Would love a little Ornaversary questline so we could get to know each developer a bit 😁
2: Spelunker torches make a lot of sense in the allegiance rewards, or even just as part of the completed archpath 🧨
3: Covyn's side sword is such a lame name, I propose a change to "Nothren Regalia" 🤣