#Regarding Glided Kheper

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solemn phoenix
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This thread is for glided kheper i have few ideas for amulet.

  1. Increase rarety of common enemies while buffing glided kheper rarety.

2)Give us a craft able to summon glided kheper enemy (through seal of elysian)

3)Let us craft amulet with seals.

If anyone find any flaw in my suggestions or buffing access of glided kheper please give a reasonable reason instead of codex challenge thing because unlike other 2 rare enemies glided kheper drop has value and no reason to be this rare.

potent ivy
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  1. It's a cool rare drop which requires grinding. "The rarity" complains fall into the same category as the "need" to farm ornates. They are rare too and there's no guarantee you will get it?
  2. It's been less than a week of the event. I have a feeling a lot of players are living with strong feeling that they are required to get all the loot day 1
  3. If you feel that I'm wrong, can be better to post into #💡│suggestions for more visibility and clear vote
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Oh nvm the 3, you already did

solemn phoenix
potent ivy
solemn phoenix
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there is huge difference

solemn phoenix
potent ivy
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Your point was that you want the drop? And quality doesn't matter for it?

solemn phoenix
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if i get 2 standard I'm happy

potent ivy
solemn phoenix
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heck you can't even find enemy

potent ivy
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Yes, that's new and I personally like it. I think of it as rare ornate drop hunting instead and this helps me to keep the motivation for the rest 3 weeks. Anyway, I guess we won't agree here. My point is that not every gear should be accessible without grind and that's ok. I like rare mobs even if I don't get a single drop this month. It's like shiny hunting

solemn phoenix
sterile garden
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I've gone from monument guild level 126 to 133 and have seen 3 gold bugs and 2 ramses as all of my rares. I've run the ornate item branch of the astral tree, I've opened at least 3 dozen accessory chests in event monument since the change, nothing.

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I'm approaching the halfway point on Orna's monument leaderboard and even I've not gotten it to drop yet, and I've probably run more monuments than the average player is going to run over the course of this entire event. I'm not a fan of this setup, but so long as I end the month with 2 gold bug amulets I probably won't care.

cobalt socket
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I like kheper being super rare and that's coming from someone who's run a ton of monuments and still haven't seen one

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Personally think more stuff of this type should be added to base game content

solemn phoenix
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for ppl who like shiny hunting for finding super rare enemies you can just find other 2 atleast their drop aren't significant but glided kheper drop are significant so it should be accessible to casual players

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ornate hunting is something i understand but not getting access to a standard quality this because you are grinding like no lifer is not Okay

cobalt socket
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The standard quality is pretty strong and a lot of that is in the stats not affected by quality so I'm fine with a standard being difficult to get

solemn phoenix
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if we lose luck for it to become accessible I'm happy

cobalt socket
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I think it seems obtainable

wild raptor
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I found 3 Gilded bugs already and I found all three super rares within 60 event ranks

solemn phoenix
sterile garden
cobalt socket
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I think its good to have an item that keeps you farming the event after one run

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Maybe I won't see one this event

lavish cove
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The problem I see is the combination of it being an extremely rare encounter and the amulet's drop rate due to it's rarity being legendary and dropping from a non-boss mob.

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I've been running with luck capped the entire time. Looking at my kheper codex's count and the t6 scarab drops it's at 1 in 6.5 currently (14 / 92). I was 30 kills before I got my 2nd t6 amulet.

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I've yet to encounter a gilded kheper and based on those numbers will need to see 13 (on average) to get 2 gilded scarab amulets (of any quality). With bad luck it could be much more than 13. I think you should be able to take rng out of the equation to obtain 2 of the accessories by grinding relatively hard the entire month. I don't like the comparison to spending a whole month ornate farming an item because if you fail to succeed you still have the lesser quality version of the item you were targeting.

cobalt socket
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That's why I think this is okay because the blue one is more or less a 'lesser quality version '

sterile garden
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Oh look, one of the top 10 monument guild players hasn't even encountered a gold bug. Clearly this means the spawn rate is in a good place.

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Geppu with all due respect: what you are saying would only be realistic if the gold bug accessory did not have a desirable effect.

lavish cove
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Just changing the rarity is the amulet makes this fine, imo. It doesn't change the codexing challenge because people are gonna use their Appraiser's Loupe anyway.

sterile garden
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There isn't really a codexing challenge for gold bug, as you can just wait for osiris to summon it for that.

lavish cove
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You can't codex summons normally, is it somehow different for Osiris?

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My experience is based on Phaethon and Eos.

sterile garden
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oh, you can't? I thought I saw someone say they did just that. I got the codexing direct from bugs so I can't go back and confirm.

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It's very possible I read something wondering if you could as well.

lavish cove
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For Phaethon I hoped there'd be loupe hole but that didn't work either.

sterile garden
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Maybe Phaethon specifically doesn't have a codex entry because it doesn't appear naturally in encounters?

lavish cove
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He does though and was encounterable via memory hunts a long while ago.

cobalt socket
lost vault
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I've gone from 99 to 111 in monument guild, and rank 59 for throne makers and have only seen 1 gold boi. I personally think it's far too rare, and I wonder if it's an issue with monument in general. The common scarab is about 1/10 the spawn rate of the shade bosses, which leads me to think the gold boi is also 10x more rare than it's supposed to be

lavish cove
sterile garden
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I'll never be able to agree that it's fine, because the reality is that I've only ever seen people post pictures of them getting lucky obtaining it in the astral tree so far.

lost vault
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Has anyone confirmed it from accessories chest in monument. I've done 40+ green/blue and have tons of other t9 accessories

sterile garden
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No idea, I'm around 3-4 dozen accessory chests since the change and I haven't pulled it.

lavish cove
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I seem to get ancient essence > 90% of the time. I haven't seen anyone else mention it from the accessory chest. Like Drel said the only ones I've seen people with came from astral chests.

sterile garden
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almost half of my accessory chests are immortal rings anguish

lavish cove
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I have 2 ithra at OT and have been running them pretty consistently.

sterile garden
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It's assumed we can get it from the accessory chest because someone said T9s could pull it, now accessory chests are not tier locked. Reasonable assumption, but the item pool is now much larger.

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I'm mostly running thief right now

potent ivy
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So...
Probably not the best place to share this, so maybe I'll cross-post after

  1. Again, rare mobs are nice, that's cool and I love the grind
  2. MAYBE the point of having inaccessible gear is somewhat correct. It would be way cooler if something cosmetic (title, flair, skin, pet skin (!)) was a rare drop. This way it's only accessible via mob drop, not tree/chest and it's definitely not necessary to farm it, but it's a cool way for grinders to flex with
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Thoughts?

sterile garden
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I'll give you an example a post that will pop up the day this event ends:

"Hey everyone, my local conqueror pvp is becoming annoying because X player who was already stronger than me now has 10% evade from 2 gilded amulets. I got none of them"

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there is nothing cool about flexing an accessory with a unique, practical use. Leave that to titles, cosmetics, whatever.

cobalt socket
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Damn sounds like you can use sleep dart then

potent ivy
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Not like it's additional permanent buff or BiS or anything?

sterile garden
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I too like lobbing sleep darts into steadfast 🤷

lavish cove
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It has unique attributes that can't be found on any other accessory (HP regen) or is only found on one other accessory (dodge). These are also very rarely on other gear at all. BiS? Probably not but it could be for certain builds with specific goals.

potent ivy
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Also not like we have 80% +50% second chance now
Not like we have SS3 being the stupidest meta for years
Surely PVP has way more serious problems lol

lavish cove
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Not to mention accessories with 8% accuracy

sterile garden
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TBH, it's very telling that the literal monument zealots don't even have 1 drop (let alone not even gold bug sightings) after a week. I'm more annoyed at the "that's actually fine" chatter than the rarity itself.

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Okay. Okay. I have to say this now, I hate this game.

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I have received 2 legendary BoGs since this event started. It's like they are mocking me for not getting the gilded amulet 😂

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I just got my second one now. I'm happy, but it's an irritated happy.

lavish cove
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I have a feeling this is rarer than intended and will end up getting addressed after this weekend. I'd like to hope so at least.

sterile garden
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I've already predicted a shitstorm if it doesn't get changed, even before this topic.

cobalt socket
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Best change for next time this happens it to not put it in the online codex. Then it'll be like a myth

molten phoenix
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Went from monumental lvl72 to 100, Thronekeepers lvl 69, exclusively from monuments, around 300+ monuments. 2 rameses ,1 golden kheper, 1 medjed encountered, 0 amulets dropped

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If the drop rate is the same as normal kheper scarab, then its around 1/7, good luck

lost vault
# potent ivy So... Probably not the best place to share this, so maybe I'll cross-post after ...

I'm 100% on board with ultra rare that just give titles, flair, aura, cosmetic.

Calling it a codex challenge is just kinda slap in the face when it has loot people want.

Medea is only rare, not cryptid and I've seen her 6 times in monument since it started, and all were non event monument/pre patch. I think that's an appropriate rarity.

More than anything calling it a codex challenge when you can flee and re engage but keep all codex process defeats the "challenge"

gloomy jetty
sterile garden
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Tbh codex challenge does apply to the other rare mobs. It's clear to anyone who was grinding monuments this week that the amulet is a separate issue.

lost vault
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I would actually like codex challenge mobs, where you cant use codex kits, and the reward is flair, aura, etc. but that's a separate issue, a mob being rare doesn't really make it a codex challenge.

solemn phoenix
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If some cosmetic things is super rare or something that you can flex then i actually support it but if it's a unique drop that can be used i think casual players should be able to get them without too much efforts

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i understand that rare drop /enemy keep ppl intresed in game but that's not the case for everyone

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for casual players like me we just feel disappointed and give up after a while are try to convince other (like some ppl are doing rn)

solemn phoenix
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if it was in base game it's not much problem because you'll get it eventually

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but since event it time limited and will try to get it as fast as possible and exhaust yourself

sterile garden
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The funny part of this situation is that I have been running saying "I went from monument guild level 126 to blahblahblah..." a bunch. I'm not saying that to brag or inflate my importance as someone on the leaderboard, I've just literally lost track of how many monuments I've run mighty_mimic

solemn phoenix
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lol

lost vault
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It's also not a great metric. Cause I'm doing 1 per floor, so I'll have significantly less exp/ level than others doing full clears

solemn phoenix
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i used to do full clear but as i got more exhausted and bored i started doing only 1 and now I'm bored to point that I can't even do monument

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heck I'm feeling bored just by opening game

sterile garden
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I do full clears because I am addicted to sekhmet eyes.

lost vault
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Astral tree finally came through

sterile garden
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I get to do my second round of astral gambling tomorrow.

lost vault
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if it werent for the astral chests giving me 50+ free seeds i woudlnt have bothered, but rest easy all 3 ornate chests were random t10 trash from normal enemies

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i know medea is only 'rare' but seeing her 10 monuments since the event started and only 1 gold boi does make me sad

solemn phoenix
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yeah

lost vault
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10 medea in 300+ monuments....feels okay for a 'rare' enemy.

sterile garden
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I'm up to 4 gold bugs and 2 Ramses. No gilded amulet.

solemn phoenix
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Well i just did 50 and found medea twice