Of Giants and Titans (2025)

[fluid spindle]

Oceanus gives a fat damage bonus. Maybe mag only, I don't know, but it roughly doubles my pact damage

[opaque holly]

Never get involved in a land war in Asia?

[grand vale]

Hi, mnemonic of mnemoyne can be used always or only in the titans event?
Thanks

[craggy lark]

Most likely just during the event, seems to be the new trend

[vast flume]

Is it worth using those stardrop and moondrop to summon in general, or should i keep them for scroll exhange

[cloud oracle]

Tablet has 4th best ward helms and solid stats on the gear. Moon drops are easy raids to push anguish. And star drops are easy dispair push + gf chance

[craggy lark]

it depends on what you need. you might wanna use a few to get the adornments/1 of each staff, then use the rest on hyperion.

[twilit copper]

so for the 1% memory chest/leg, i presume we have to hunt for broken?

[analog orchid]

Broken > Ornate for those yes, but in reality standard should be just fine as the gear is really only gonna be used in memory hunting

[cunning edge]

I think it also gives more crit dmg or just more dmg

[timid magnet]

I'm gonna hope for ornate so I don't have to spend any mats upgrading it for adorn slots

[craggy lark]

thats fair, cause your gonna need max crit adorns since you lose 50-60% from weapon

[cunning leaf]

Oh dangit, I just trashed my broken.

[craggy lark]

since memory hunts cant be anguished it matters very little its just a preference on how many mats you wanna spend.

Ornate = negative stats to the max, but if its anguish1 lvl1 you have max slots and dont need to level it, if its broke you can level it to 11, use demonworking tools, and leave it at rank 10 anguish1, with less negative stats then a rank 1 ornate.

[timid magnet]

Guys I'm not sure where I am

It won't let me go higher 😂

Welp. Softlocked out of this tower

[bronze raven]

the good ol 26/25

[vapid rune]

Does anyone know if drop quality affects the Amities dropped by the T4 tower?

[cunning leaf]

While we don’t know for sure yet, there’s reason to believe it does.

[craggy lark]

for the t4 tower, i am running it with 2x tails + karmic ornate and 400% luck, cause you dont need real gear anyways so placebo for everyone!

[timid magnet]

Has anyone gotten any Flask Power amities from mnemosyne

[bronze raven]

Yes

[cunning leaf]

I feel like the luck is overkill

[cunning leaf]

A few people, my kingdom leader included

[timid magnet]

Ok just checked mine and saw none, so thanks for confirming

[cunning leaf]

Yeah, I want one and my kingdom leader made sure to rub his fancy new amity in my face last night. He got it from the t9, but I have no reason to believe the t4 won’t drop it too.

[dapper cove]

I like getting 3 amities per fight but I dislike door guessing

[dapper cove]

I got a flask amity from the T4

[bronze raven]

i dislike this being easier than the real amity hunting

[dapper cove]

for a limited time? But yeah, I get where you're coming from ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[craggy lark]

Probably, but with 2x tails (1.5x1.44) and a dowsing rod (1.5) im already at 324% so why not add 1 more piece of luck gear on a fight where gear doesnt matter

as far as tails/karmic ornate this is what google has to say, and why they are refered to as scam-tails or placebo tails :-p

The difference between 1 in 200 and 1 in 197 is extremely small. To detect such a minute difference with standard statistical confidence (95% confidence and 80% power), the number of trials needed is exceptionally large (millions).
For practical purposes, a difference of this magnitude is likely not considered a "clinically meaningful" or practically important difference

[timid magnet]

Time to change every torment choice to 4

[timid magnet]

Amity ornates are not 1 in 200 though

[craggy lark]

i mean yes? there are no standard/white variants, and blue/green are functionally the same but we dont know the the drop rate for an ornate amity is or isnt 1 in 200, so far it seems pretty similar to all other droped items considering we get 3 a go, and after 56 t4 i have seen 0 ornate amity

[sick sandal]

Huh context please

[timid magnet]

Quality bonus

[sick sandal]

Is it a new option?

[cunning leaf]

Out of curiosity, what are you googling to get what google has to say for this? The trials needed isn’t in the millions, it’s in the thousands to tens of thousands. At 3 per boss and 3 weeks to run these, it’s not unreasonable to two-tail in hopes for good luck.

Also, do we know if that bonus only applies to ornate, or could it also affect legendary chance?

[craggy lark]

how many trials to see the difference between those 2 odds at 95% confidence 80% power,

[sick sandal]

I think he refers to what can be considered meaningful statistically

Which is greater than .5 or smt like that

[craggy lark]

yup

[sick sandal]

It's been a while since I took statistics

[craggy lark]

basically just cause you might see the difference at 3000 vs 2990 doesnt mean its statistically significantly different

[sick sandal]

I have them on just in case tho

[craggy lark]

same >< ill take my placebo hunter effect

[craggy lark]

its like treasure hunter from FFXI , it may have done next to nothing, but by golly why would you not apply it to the enemy

[halcyon lotus]

statistical significance only really matters going the other way (trying to measure its impact when the quantity may not be known)

[sick sandal]

BIG ODIE!

What you did with Oo0ooOodie?

[halcyon lotus]

when you know the value, you're just in probability land

[halcyon lotus]

tossed him in the halloween decor bin

[sick sandal]

Not the bin 😭

But it's Día de Muertos 😭😭

[flint orchid]

Difference between is 1/200 and 1/197 is 0.5% vs 0.5076% btw

[sick sandal]

I'll take a screen shot of that

[flint orchid]

you can also do this division on most calculators

[sick sandal]

But my gamblers heart tells me that it's significant

I'll take it

[halcyon lotus]

phones too iirc

[sick sandal]

It only matters to me if it works for the amities drops

[flint orchid]

I believe amities are closer to a 1/80 chance of ornate, but I can't confirm that

I heard that number from someone else at least, that wasn't entirely out of my ass

[bronze raven]

I wanna say it's 1/8 for legendaries and 1/64 for ornate but i have no data but confirmation bias

[craggy lark]

my wife made me put up all the decorations the day after as well. had to take down the thanksgiving ones now

[sick sandal]

Maybe it's the same as the amity quality chances from regular hunts and the game just runs 3 random hunts and marks it as drops?

[flint orchid]

I would be more likely to believe that

[sick sandal]

That's what I've been thinking it's doing but I have the sphinx tails on too

[flint orchid]

1 or 3 random rolls and they are appended to the drop list

[craggy lark]

ive gone 40 DM without a legendary, and then gotten 5 in a row while scouting. RNG is RNG and if it hates you thats all there is :-p

[flint orchid]

40/5 = 8, checkmate atheists

[sick sandal]

In Mexico we have Halloween in October and Dia de muertos in Nov
2 months of spooky month!

[craggy lark]

that only works if those were the only 45 i have ever done :-p

[sick sandal]

I've gotten 60 without a leg....

[craggy lark]

Konq over here trying to peddle RNGeezus to us non belivers

[flint orchid]

At the end of the day, I am a heretic

[lucid lotus]

So titan odie... do we get titan eos replica buff

[craggy lark]

or mnemememnemsys replica?

[lucid lotus]

What would it do

[craggy lark]

its eos on steroids

since its season and locked behind sky shards

[flint orchid]

could be another memory hunting pet

[coral jetty]

Gives puzzlers ambrosia to the player, killing them in 2 turns

[lucid lotus]

Summons chimeras

[flint orchid]

Berserk IV, you take 0 damage but lose 50% HP per turn

[sick sandal]

Ambrosia pvp could be funny

Gilga doing oneshot with collateral and realm doing the same with avidity

[flint orchid]

so nothing new

[sick sandal]

But it's an item, so it's different

[craggy lark]

i mean pvp is 1 shot, or be 1 shotted . gotta just spice up the death screen, add fatalities

[sick sandal]

They could very well sell kill animations haha

[craggy lark]

Gilgamesh skull crush animation: 9.99....the new aura/flaire/appearance option coming to you this christmas

[alpine dove]

Idea for Mnemosyne's Ascent:
Have the puzzle in the center of the room that lets you take the Ambrosia use the same seeding as which door is correct,
this way, you can check the puzzle to know which door to take.

Still a puzzle, Less Pick-a-Door, player still has to pay attention. Win-Win

[craggy lark]

So like if its the spin a circle - left door, wave length center door, 5 digits - right door type thing?

[alpine dove]

yeah

[snow oracle]

Would be cool if they added sprites with attack animations lol

[craggy lark]

2 completely different amity

7% pet protection/20/100 parapet
4% pet action / 2% ignore ward

[sick sandal]

I still don't get the pet protect hype

[cloud oracle]

pvp stuff

[sick sandal]

I know

But 7% is too low

[cloud oracle]

pvp pet protect goes ham also raiding but anguish 2.0 takes that away

beos have a higher block chance

and its not to low...

[craggy lark]

Okay some additional thoughts on the T4 tower:

• more puzzle variety please, each floor always has the same puzzle, allow them to be random
• can trash mobs vary more? I know its a tower, but the same mobs every time is rather meh
• not 100% related to this event, but the sin/cos wave puzzle, the left slider sticks, its been an issue forever with this puzzle. If you move the bottom first then go for the left its like it wont let go of the bottom
• again, not 100% related, but can the recollection menu be improved? sort by recent at least?

[cloud oracle]

thats high enough to be about 1 in 13 to high and its op to low and its not viable

[craggy lark]

Pet protection is like second chance but it can go off infinite times

With my current build i can get up to 26% chance to be protected from ANY attack, its a better form of parapet

now all will share my pain

[coral jetty]

I have never had this issue before. Just tried replicating it in a tower and I was able to move the left slider just fine after moving the bottom first

[craggy lark]

its not every time, im not sure what causes it to be stuck but doing 30 towers an hour i definitly see it a lot

[cunning leaf]

I’ve noticed weird sticking with this game in general, not just on that. For example, when trying to rotate the main screen or zoom in/out, if one of my fingers happened to touch a building/monster/dungeon, the game doesn’t register the movement or other fingers that touch the screen. Another thing is when selecting multiple things, sometimes it thinks I tap the same one twice even when I’m clearly tapping a different thing, which leads to this back and forth with the game of me selecting both until the game stops deselecting them.

[sick sandal]

Skill issue :

That one is a pain cuz it refuses to worksometimes

[craggy lark]

I think I have bug man hands and the hit box is too small.... We'll go with that

[coral jetty]

I had a feeling you were a bug... Have you gotten any good amities so far?

[craggy lark]

Good ... No

Okish, yes

Those are the only 3 ive saved, and the acc is because I need 2 more to trade

[coral jetty]

Ah yea those are pretty okay. Great for someone just starting out with amities

[timid magnet]

I mean, parapet /pet block is good

[craggy lark]

It is but I already had it.

[dusky trail]

This is the best one I've gotten so far from my 240 runs 😔

If only it was 25% accessory 💔

[nimble marsh]

Is mnemosyne's whole thig that you do more dmg with lower stats or something cause like I have full buffs and snotra up and mag dmg is still 0 but normal attacks are like 300k sometimes 1mil at 100% stat up

[forest leaf]

So by the looks of it the consensus on the 5 floor tower is its random which door is right?

[craggy lark]

100% i kept track of the 50 i ran today, and there was 0 pattern or repetion

[craggy lark]

normal attacks have high penetration, so no thats not it

she has super high base stats and casts lots of buffs

[forest leaf]

Oh boy

[nimble marsh]

Ok cool thank you, I thought the dara seals 3 had high enough pen but I guess base attack is more huh

[craggy lark]

For the t9, you need to use sleep darts to keep her from buffing, and use as many debuffs as you can

[forest leaf]

Also, just a thought but the new titan should drop 2.5k tower shards like the previous 5 titans

[craggy lark]

if shes awake, shell buff with elemental resists and TAll +++ and zero out pretty much everything. If you keep her asleep you can land dmg like normal, just pop res/def - and i recommend using dullahan shield for res/def --. If your a smn using cockatrice + VSS will keep her stoned and debuffed.

[craggy lark]

T4 tian with orn gear ... Might as well get 15m orn an hour

Averaging 650k now

[craggy lark]

On a side not DMG at full hp works on items. Can get ambrosia up to 75% initial DMG. But you still gotta use 2

[dreamy flax]

she uses defend sometimes so that would make it 2 turns instead of 3 but why wouldn't you use a 25% accessories with bog instead

[craggy lark]

Completly different builds sorry. My ADHD brain

Full orn had 2x bog and 2x 25% acc

DMG at full swapped tmm for broom and 2x 15% amity

[dark arrow]

Hello, is it intentional that finding the write path takes more time than actually clearing the T4 event tower ?

[halcyon lotus]

The main challenge of anything generally will have the most time/focus requirement, yeah

[dark arrow]

And why do you prefer randomness over intellectual focus ?

Unless there is a trick

[vapid rune]

How i see that tower is like the tower itself behaves like a memory puzzle, most of them are just kind of random sequence tbh

[timid magnet]

Memory hunt, mnemonics

[halcyon lotus]

It’s a memory puzzle

[timid magnet]

Remembering

[wise coral]

Odie are the new celestial augments going to show up in the vices for combination?

Right now it is only the normal titans and none of the new ones.

[supple helm]

Design wise it's a lot easier. Gets annoying and tedious for the player very quickly though

[vapid rune]

Yes that, I always mix the names 🥲

[wary atlas]

Is karmic extra shards intended not to work on Mnemosyne towers?

[flint orchid]

I don't think any boosts whatsoever work on the Shadow of the Titans towers

[wary atlas]

Ye, seems like torment isnt working either

But, is that intended or a "future feature to be"?

@0die

[timid magnet]

Intended that you can't boost 12500 shards gained super fast, yeah

[maiden berry]

I'd consider lowering the tower cooldown whenever event key gets used 🤔

[coral jetty]

Its already the best/quickest augment farm, lowering the cooldown would be even more busted

[craggy lark]

The t4 tower is affected by boosters. Go get you some orn on w/e torment you want while farming dm. If I used astral buff , orn booster next week it should easily clear 1.2m a kill

[halcyon lotus]

Yes, intended

[coral jetty]

Spelunking event this month. If one were patient enough to summon and go up to floor 5 on dozens/hundreds of the towers, it'd probably the easiest orn farm

[cloud oracle]

Base attack button scales with buffs for m1 and gets bigger with higher base stat

[twilit copper]

wait so is this patch intended for hoa only?

Increased the Tower Shard bonus given by Mnemosyne gear from 1% to 3%

• Decreased the HP and Mana penalties of the Mnemosyne gear
• Added Attack and Magic to the Mnemosyne gear
• Slightly decreased the amount of Fragments of Olympic Memories awarded when ascending Towers
• Fixed an issue starting Anguished World Raids when your max unlocked Anguish level exceeds the Raid's Anguish level
• Fixed an issue where players may be sent to the title screen when using items in very quick succession
• Increased the cost of the "Mnemosyne Puzzle Key" to 35 Fragments
• Fixed an issue where the Codex and Daily Goals may only increment once when facing multiple enemies of the same type

[cloud oracle]

No it's a server patch not a version patch

As seen above the message

Server patch v1.211

[halcyon lotus]

No?

[timid magnet]

It was postponed

[onyx prism]

a suggestion to the dev, can you allow Mnemosyne's augment be combined in titan workshop?

All the titan augment can be combined except for Mnemosyne's

[wooden vortex]

What does each of the power of titan do?

[dark arrow]

I get 10k per kill

[craggy lark]

Gotta stack those booster

[dark arrow]

With full orn gear I have 7k at ang 7

What are your buffs?

[sick sandal]

Idk what I'm seeing here

[craggy lark]

I was just showing the t4 boss can drop 750k+ orn. That's without 2 booster as well.

[dark arrow]

Not reproducible

[worldly sierra]

Do you have a tower gear set overriding your equipped gear? I just tried my full orn set with a few of the boosters and got 250k orns from the T4 titan.

[alpine dove]

I do find it funny that (as a T4) I can't see the Tower Loadout in my inventory, but I can turn it on against the Shade of Mnemosyne.
It does get properly used in future towers runs (once turned on), I just can't edit it unless I'm staring down the titan.

[wise coral]

No one expected a t4 fully building multiple loadouts and being ready for any kind of towers even at their own tier.

[alpine dove]

It makes perfect sense to me. Having the loadout available just for the event would be silly.

Having it available all the time doesn't make sense either, cause T4-T8 doesn't have towers (normally)

Its just odd logic artifacting that occurs when making new content. That's fun to me

[hasty bane]

Mnemosyne didn't expect a raid tier player showing up

[dark arrow]

Yes I changed both tower and dungeon

[dark arrow]

I left the tower and came back in right before the fight with my orn class, and it worked

It's just spaghetti coding

[warm otter]

How the f u get 700k orns....

[craggy lark]

Tmm follower, torment 9...

Silver coin, vulvan brew, astral orn (12 hour orn bonus), and orn shrine. ... spelunking+astral buff next week will take it higher.

[warm otter]

I didn't know Titans can be affected by orns bonus... Damn it....

[neat marsh]

And the new ring has an orn bonus!

They are bosses, not raids. :/

[warm otter]

This is for t4 Titan right?

[warm otter]

Ahhh bosses.

[craggy lark]

Yup t4 titan is a gimmick fight so you can wear any gear you want

[neat marsh]

With this event being memory hunt related, could we have another memory hunt event before this event ends? 😄

[cloud oracle]

theyre a boss just like every other boss

[warm otter]

Got it....

[patent sphinx]

Feedback :
Tower T9 > Kinda fun, love the idea of 2 floor with all the titans. Loots not really worth it tho, at least for me. Overall : good stuff ! Good to see you keep finding new ways of recycling existing stuff into new way of playing, like you did with rift dungeons

Tower T4 > Walking simulator, perma die and retry full random gameplay, no fight. Cant believe i would say that before i stop playing this game, but yeah, It's even worse/more boring than exploration dungeon.
I did something like 15 : Will not start another one.

Also those T4 towers should not count as 1 tower done in achievement imo. They're not even close of anything like a tower except for the appearance.

[alpine dove]

May I ask your opinion about Tier 1 Dungeons counting for T10/T11 players?

[patent sphinx]

Should be removed too 👍

But not even close of a comparaison imo. At least t1 dungeon consume the dungy's cooldown

[cloud oracle]

i can understand t4 towers but a dungeon is a dungeon t1-10 you still have to kill enemies and climb floors

the t4 towers dont have floor guardians to kill so that makes it not a tower

[patent sphinx]

you press 5 time "attack", no challenge, cant die, and then ok after getting your EoD

[cloud oracle]

it still takes a cd and still requires a key/keys

and you still have to kill enemies all the way through

not to mention towers arent difficult to me

so by your logic none should count

[patent sphinx]

that i agree, that's why i think it is not a good comparaison

[cloud oracle]

no theyre still compairable because you have to use things to make the key but the difference is the cd

plus an ang 50 t1 dungeon might be hard

[patent sphinx]

i didnt even tried to farm it

it just flow like candies on halloween

[cloud oracle]

have you run towers or dms?

[patent sphinx]

yes, it didnt come from nowhere either 💀

[cloud oracle]

asking which

not both

[patent sphinx]

towers

[cloud oracle]

okay so if you turn all of that into keys and only run that you barely make enough for a t4

[patent sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[cloud oracle]

im pointing out that if you only run event content instead of doing normal towers you make barely enough from 1 tower key craft to make a t4 craft and the t4 craft shouldnt cover the t9 cost

youve been running normal towers over normal content for some reason when event towers are more fruitful for time spent and the gear is worth while due to it giving new stuff that practially anyone can use

the t4 gives stuff for t10+ aswell

point is dungeons should count no matter the tier because theyre year long and everyone can do it. these t4 towers shouldnt count because its not a tower its a puzzle and if anything should count as a memory completion instead

specifically 3 completes but whatever

[patent sphinx]

Ok kind reminders on my post and that we were talking about the fact those have nothing to do with tower and shouldnt count as one in achievements.
I've no idea why we're talking about T4 probably struggling to get the base mat to craft the mnemonic

[ebon imp]

Man I didn't even know they added that stat

[cloud oracle]

nah dms are better than towers for time spent

[ebon imp]

Do I have to start killing the titans again?

[patent sphinx]

saddly yes 🫂

[ebon imp]

Wonder if it factors into leaderboard

[cloud oracle]

it also doesnt count from before the stat was added

[coral jetty]

Aren't you paying attention? Just summon hundreds of the t4 tower so you don't need to kill real titans

[patent sphinx]

i think he can see that...

[cloud oracle]

or get 6 kills in 2 mins

[ebon imp]

Yeah not gonna do that, pretty wild that it counts though

[alpine dove]

😎

[coral jetty]

You're not clearing an anguished tower in 2 mins

[cloud oracle]

brother 2 floor tower?

[foggy aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[cloud oracle]

acting as if 2 floor towers dont go brrrr

[coral jetty]

Surely the titan kills dont count as tower clears

[cloud oracle]

skip them

just kill final floor

lol

[coral jetty]

Thats a waste of a tower though

[cloud oracle]

less than a min to kil

its faster than t4 towers tho

[coral jetty]

It is, you're right on that

[cloud oracle]

were talking specifically speed running it

[ebon imp]

Still consumes a tower for a day though

[cloud oracle]

plus my buddy is clearing event tower in 48 seconds ish all 5 normal titans+ new

[cloud oracle]

go for a road trip take public transportation

[patent sphinx]

Would love to see YOUR 2min run jinx ?

[cloud oracle]

i mean hell i ran 10+ of them today in my small town

[cloud oracle]

use my server name dude

and im killing every titan in 4 turns and last titan in 4-5

[ebon imp]

Yeah I mean I ran like 10 yesterday, still requires one to go out and fetch them

[patent sphinx]

Na, it change everytime you change LoL main, its boring

[cloud oracle]

first i never mained jinx

ive only every mained fizz

2nd it doesnt matter if i change it or not be respecful and use the name shown not an old alias

[coral jetty]

Trex has me interested in how much orn can be earned next week with the t4s so I'm a try to clear... a lot in an hour

[ebon imp]

Fizz main that's rough

[patent sphinx]

wish you a ton of fun running those during 1 hour

[ebon imp]

I will run an event tower for every titan I skipped getting to 39 torment

[cloud oracle]

also who i main in league is unrelated to of giants and titans 25

[dark arrow]

I don't recommend you to sacrifice your fingers health + mental sanity

Not worth this 🚮

[cloud oracle]

i mean 750k+k orns per kill and all it takes is remembering where everything is with the ability to prep only doing 4 puzzles

[dark arrow]

Endless is better orn vs time wise anyways

[coral jetty]

It is, this is more for science. Honestly, I think the setup will be worse than endless, but at least amities are a reward as well

and EoDs? but I'm not expecting much from that

[dark arrow]

What I am wondering is if tail influences the amity rarity as well

[foggy aspen]

real answer; no probably not anything tangible
Fake answer? wont know unless you try a bunch

[cloud oracle]

uh can you prove that? set a 1 hr timer run as deep as you can then stop and check orns then do it again with t4 towers and just slamming through them with crazy speed

[minor granite]

I was able to down this event titan dreadfully slow as a T9 bahumut with VSS as follower. Is there a better way to do this at T9?

[dark arrow]

We don't run same endless I think

[cloud oracle]

remember buff time matters

and the first 200 floors dont give much

[cloud oracle]

not really

[cunning leaf]

Screw the math, I have faith!

[warm otter]

My adorn just turn into garbage

[craggy lark]

What am I looking at
The memory bonus not showing in the smelter screen ? Other adorns do the same thing

[warm otter]

Oh wait the bonuses don't show during smelter....

It didn't show up in my weapon too.

But it show up in the items menu.

[cunning leaf]

Anyone figure out if there’s any rhyme, reason, or pattern to which stairwell to climb in the t4 tower?

[fluid spindle]

There is none, as confirmed by odie

[wide mica]

Initially there is not, but it is a memory game throughout. Pay attention to your steps through the tower, and repeat them when you find success!

[long chasm]

Was the droprate of fragments nerfed along with the price increase? got roughly half today vs last couple days for the same F50 hometower.

[long plaza]

I am getting much less Moondrop compared to day 1.

Day 1 nearly every group in tower dropped 1.

Today I am getting poor drop rates. Estimate around 1 in 7-8 groups with dowsing rod.

While star drop is pretty much nearly every group running a T8/10 dungeon.

[halcyon lotus]

Yes, please see #patch-notes

[halcyon lotus]

No changes to moondrops

[long chasm]

Thanks for confirming, missed that in the notes. Don't love it, but at least I'm not going mad!

[twilit copper]

You need 400% luck for 40% drop rate for moondrop

[tacit gazelle]

I was not able to use puzzle maker ambrosia. I had to wait out for her to kill herself

[halcyon lotus]

The bug report for your first ambrosia not showing can be found at https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1435268497138782340

[dark arrow]

I lost a T9 event tower when after clearing it, couldn't collect shards and had to restart game but lost my run and everything

Is it known ?

[noble dew]

Why did cost to create keys go up? Was there a reasoning or just because?

[cloud oracle]

youre not even telling us what the bug was

[cloud oracle]

balance and speed same reason other event stuff prices go up or down

[dark arrow]

I killed the boss, then saw the rewards screen, infinite loading, so I restarted my game but after coming back, couldn't find the rewards on my inventory

[cloud oracle]

recreate it make report

with video evidence

[dark arrow]

I wasted my time and ressources tho, I won't waste more

[cloud oracle]

It can't be fixed or even called a bug if it's not recreate able

[dark arrow]

I hope you're not a software engineer

[cloud oracle]

only speaking what the dev team will say anyways

[wide mica]

Sorry that you had a frustrating experience there. If there is any additional bugs that haven't been reported by others, it does help us diagnose them with the reports.

If you feel up to it, you can try recreate it. If not, understandable!

[cloud oracle]

thank you i probably seemed a little blunt

[dark arrow]

I have said multiple times I experience lag on a regular basis, I can't recreate lags on my phone (Pixel 8 pro). The bug happened during one of those lags, like server didn't receive info of the rewards but received the info that the tower was completed

It's whatever

[minor cloud]

i have stuck also,but i get the reward. I think you should pay attention to whether you really didn't get it next time.

[alpine dove]

Hey y'all, there's some suggestions that seem... interesting 👀 Go take a gander, maybe discuss? who knows

#💡│suggestions message

add some sort of pattern or hints to the t4 event tower to make it more exciting then bruteforce

#💡│suggestions message

Increase the amount of adornment slots on Mnemosyne's gear

#💡│suggestions message

make mnemosyne augments show up in the titan alchemy recollection

I'll just kinda blindly ask as well, what're your thoughts on Mnemosyne's Ascent (T4 Tower)?
How many have you done so far? Do you plan to do more?

[ember tangle]

Done 50 so far myself. I wish the trick to them was different somehow, the guessing definitely gets old after a while or I'd have more done

[timid magnet]

I like the t4 towers, fun for farming amities/DMs

[rocky pumice]

I would definitely do more, but gets old quickly, but I guess it's a way to farm amities if you have trouble depending on where you live walking to them/driving/whatever and have to worry about trespassing or sketchy areas. Pretty easy to farm the items needed for it, I dislike the nerf to the drop rates on the fragments. Not the end of the world tho.

[cunning leaf]

I think I’m at 30. If there was a way to tell which staircase to enter, even if it sometimes takes longer than brute forcing it, I’d prefer that.

Like, if it were something along the lines of: divide the total number of enemies that appear on the floor by 3, and the remainder tells you which door, that’d be cool

So if there were 3 groups of monsters, two with 5 and one with 3, then that’s 13 total, which leaves a remainder of 1 which means go in the center door

It just really feels weird for a “puzzle tower” to not actually have a puzzle.

[stoic stream]

Around 70, and pretty boring after the initial rush.
I wish the failed attempt didn't have to start over from the first floor.

[lavish belfry]

I did 10. I regret crafting 130 of the things

At least it is giving me 1 dm worth of amity to recall over

Per towers

[tardy sierra]

Probably did around 5-15.
Don't plan on doing more at the moment.
Main reason I was doing them actually had more to do with Mammon spawning on my floor 1 about half the time for me.
Though now that the week has rolled over, dunno if that is still the case.
If it can be self-sustaining as is I'd consider doing it more, but it wouldn't be for the fun-factor.

Other obstacle for me is that I'm having a lot of fun doing the T9 Titan gauntlet which competes for the same resource.
Plus the rewards themselves are also much better for me since I'm gearing up for T10.

I've ended up on a Summoner with the Assassin spec built for using lots of DoTs for the T9 titan gauntlet ,
and it's probably the most fun I've had playing Orna.

I'm actually seeing lots of returns (faster and more consistent clears) for both paying attention to the fights
(to keep up statuses, block during telegraphed attacks, etc.)
and trying to figure out how much status/dullahan gear I can get away with before my survivability drops too low to beat the titans consistently.
Plus I have a super good use for the Ithra monument bonus which was cool to discover.

Feels very satisfying to be rewarded for

• actively playing (juggling status & defending with intention),
• picking thru my random event gear (status stuff),
• working with a non-standard specialization (Assassin),
• and exploring the world (Monument bonus).

Much more fun than other raids that are just buff up, and then defend/attack a bunch.
I wouldn't go so far as to say all raids should be like this, since I do think there is a place for less involved raids,
but I do think more raids should probably allow for at least some level of volatile status condition juggling since it helps mix things up and rewards paying attention more.

Devs did a really good job with these titan fights.
(though I did have to look up their info on YACO so that I could actually develop my strategy without burning through a ton of keys)

[ember tangle]

Maybe to keep a theme of memory test, something like this amity test that gives the order to enter doors and you have to remember as you go up?

[tardy sierra]

I think I'd like that.

Then getting thrown back to floor 1 would actually be my fault instead of just random chance.

and I agree that it would fit in with the memory hunt thingy.

[patent sphinx]

Also dont forget to ask for t4 towers not counting for achievement 😆

[cunning leaf]

I didn’t even know that. Yeah, they absolutely should not count. That sucks because now I can’t trust my numbers.

I do like the t4 towers, fwiw. I don’t think fighting should be forced in all content and having it be optional is nice, especially since there are still things like arisen mammon that often spawn that makes me fight anyway.

[dapper cove]

T9 dungeons --> These are fun. They're quick and rewarding and I feel good running them. Nobody should be lacking normal quality titan augments after this event, that's for sure.

T4 dungeons --> These are not so fun. I wish there was something on the first floor (maybe instead of an ambrosia? maybe in addition to the ambrosia? A series of pots (1, 1, 3, 2) that outlined the doors you should be taking, or some other "puzzle". I've ran 60+ of these and the first couple were intriguing but now when I run them I think the whole time "was there something else that needed doing? laundry? feed the dog? clean the kitchen?" because they are not engaging and ultimately not really fun. Am I going to keep running them? Yeah, probably, because it's a "free" way to get 3 amities ... but I won't necessarily enjoy the process.

The Nerfs --> I know the patch notes said "slightly decrease the amount of fragments" ... but prior to the patch I was getting 2 or 3 fragments from every encounter. I have seen exactly 1 fragment per encounter since the patch. No more, no less -- and I've ran a half dozen 50 floor towers since the patch dropped. Yeah, a lot of fragments were dropping previously, but "piles of loot" is really pleasing to the brain and it made those normal towers fun to run. In fact, I was going out of my way to run out at lunch and ensure I picked up another 50 floor tower or two. And when that tower was complete, I'd drive around and pick up another round of T9 towers! After the patch, well, now it just sorta feels like a chore and a requirement to run those towers for fragments -- and be sure you kill every guardian and wandering monster so you get enough fragments to make the time worthwhile. Combine the nerfed fragment drop rate with the simultaneously increased cost and it just sorta feels like we're being intentionally and artifically slowed down.

[halcyon lotus]

but prior to the patch I was getting 2 or 3 fragments from every encounter

you were getting a roll of 1-3, which will average out to 2

so, the patch went from 2->1, hence the "slightly" language

[dapper cove]

my bad, my brain probably only recognized the bigger numbers 😉

[dapper cove]

I will say that despite my complaint, this content is a win! I am enjoying the fruits of my labor for sure

[supple oyster]

"I'll slightly reduce your pay"
proceed to divide it by 2 💀

[halcyon lotus]

until we can support decimal point inventory counts, 1 is the lowest, most slightliest, number

[supple oyster]

could have been 1-3 -> 1-2

unless you want decimals to give us 0.5

[lavish belfry]

getting 0.5 of a perfect ornate item you are seeking, having to get an other 0.5 perfect roll to complete it

[supple oyster]

jokes aside, I like the event very much. Just wished the T4 tower was some kind of puzzle or riddle and not pure random (and also the red banner that tells you you're back to square 1 is placed on the floor number so it makes it harder to follow when you try to act fast).

[timid magnet]

That makes it go from average of 2 to average of 0.5...

I am mathing wrong lmao

[harsh flicker]

Did anyone try this on Hard?

[warm otter]

Odin just reduce the amount needed for key to 25. So technically, only the tower drop rate changed to 1-2.

[tardy sierra]

anyone know if the "Titan Mnemosyne" boss fight was made harder or easier?

[halcyon lotus]

easier

[dapper cove]

all hail our new overlord Odin

[wise coral]

Are the Mnemosyne augments going to show in the titanfelled guild alchemy anytime soon?

[lucid lotus]

No

[lavish belfry]

Looking for someone to get me info on the Orn range at no bonuses from DM steps

this is so I can finish the DM memory boosting tool to display all the rewards and how stacking bonuses affects what you get

Orn bonuses are placeholders

[twilit copper]

at 0 bonus mats are 5-15

1 xp ofc

[lavish belfry]

I know for mat

I am missing orn

@twilit copper

[twilit copper]

orn is a range

so someone should do a lot of them with no buffs to get the range

[lavish belfry]

i need the min and max for that range

[twilit copper]

not sure people want to do that

[lavish belfry]

even without being at zero

[twilit copper]

i never did but i understand your question

i know that at previous buffs available

[lavish belfry]

going with a known bonus i can deduce the range at zero

[twilit copper]

so when mats were 29-78 without event

orns were 1.1m per 5 steps in mnemonics

over a sample of 400-500

[lavish belfry]

average or top?

[twilit copper]

average

so i would guess

180k avg for the 5 steps at 0 buffs

but that's just an educated guess

[lavish belfry]

so, at 550% ish bonus

[twilit copper]

at like 570% bonus or whatever it was cap before events and new items

it was slightly over 1m per mnemonic avg

i guess we are closer to 1.5m now with astral tree included

but without ulterior events

[lavish belfry]

without the elesian coin and just the menory hunt event, no other events?

yeah the average is useless for me....

i need the min and max ish

[twilit copper]

yes without the rare consumables

no event at all, no memory hunt event

it has been 29-78 for a decent while ex-event

[lavish belfry]

This was a screenshot I took back during the last push i had during a memory event with elysian coins

1.8M orn from a step at 16 guild exp

going for possibly
Min 50 000 Max 150 000 orn base

untill i get more data

[twilit copper]

wait this is a single step, the final one

i was talking the avg of the 5 steps

could be 50-150 last step yes

and the other all togheter the same

for 200k avg

[lavish belfry]

I never took last step giving more than any other steps

[twilit copper]

it does

[lavish belfry]

damm

[twilit copper]

i am 99% sure it does

a lot more

like half the total is my guess

if you think about it , it can't really be 500k avg for 5 steps

it would mean more than 3m in the past per mnemonic

[lavish belfry]

will have to collect tons of screenshot and find that out next time I do a push

[twilit copper]

or "waste" 20-30 mnemonics for science with no buffs

[lavish belfry]

I can use any buff, as long as all the data is in the same buff range, it is super easy to calculate down to no buff

[twilit copper]

yes true

but it was more heroic to do it with no buffs 🙂

[cloud oracle]

Honestly just use all the buffs figure out exactly what the buff amount is and then screenshot or write down each orn amount the divide by total buff amount

[lavish belfry]

it is what I am doing, thankfully someone from ornopedia is about to do a DM push and get me the data

[cloud oracle]

I mean I do like 4-12 dms a day currently

But I'm also not planning to ss everything

If you need final step I can dm you some of those since getting new gear

[lavish belfry]

just need the top and bottom values for orn you get for steps and finishes

along with a confirmation of all your memory hunt bonuses you stacked

that way we can chart your min and max to the bonus

[cloud oracle]

Uh I'd have to see if I had astral buff or not

[cunning leaf]

Does mnemosyne feel tougher than before to anyone? I know Odie said she was made easier, but my build hasn’t changed and I’m dealing less damage and taking more.

[dapper cove]

I do feel like she was hitting harder this morning -- same situation, build and buffs have not changed

[rocky pumice]

She spams omni strikes and ultima more, so if she ^^^all, it'll hit harder, ward of balor/prism wall and defense buffs seems to negate it for me. But im on ang 6 tho.

[cunning leaf]

I mean, I’m aware of her mechanics and tools to counter them, but Odie said that the changes made the fights easier and I’m seeing a noticeable increase in difficulty, not decrease. I can still kill her, but I ended up relying on mana rush to save me from an omni despite being fully buffed up and blue lining, which never happened prior.

[rocky pumice]

I will say the fight is more difficult.

[cunning leaf]

Here’s the statement fwiw

[timid magnet]

The def/res stats were definitely lowered

I'm hitting damage cap on her when before I was only around 6mil

[cunning leaf]

Weird. I’m seeing smaller numbers. 1.4m where in the past I saw 2m

[timid magnet]

There's a lot of variables, she uses defensive buffs and DC so all sorts of things can happen. But another possible change is that maybe she uses her attacks more often?

[cunning leaf]

I meant with only the -res debuff and none of her defensive buffs.

[halcyon lotus]

there's certainly no chance that she was made harder

[craggy lark]

Well at ang7 she's just as hard as before. No noticable difference.

[halcyon lotus]

def is halved, but if you were already reasonably penetrating the def, you may not see too much difference

[wise coral]

Horizontal 3 on my Al 10 rs is now hitting 400-500k compared to previously only 200-300k, so this is definitely an improvement. (This is with her having no def boosts or deific channel and me having att2, berserk3, crit1, gunnr, bloodshift and at 1 hp)

The boss is spamming última and omnistrikes more, so it is much more dangerous then the previous summon spam.

Overall I like the change. It has more danger, but feels like I am actually hurting the boss if I do things properly. Using stun/sleep helps stop her ultima/deific channel but some still slip through.

Pic of equipment included

[craggy lark]

The opposite, I still have to fully buff and debuff just to non 0. Back to anguish 1 I go

[dapper cove]

did she gain doom immunity?

3 pieces of fomor gear and 2 nag belts and I cannot get doom to proc at all

[wise coral]

Codex doesn’t show any immunity

[cunning leaf]

I’ve heard she has a very high resistance, but can still be doomed.

[dapper cove]

I got doom to land on the first or second day, but this is the first time I'm trying recently

[cunning leaf]

And if Odie is adamant the fight is easier, then I think I’ve just had some bad runs yesterday. My kills before the update are far greater than my kills after, so I’m probably just being paranoid.

I’ll see how my runs today go

[dapper cove]

wow, I did finally get doom to land after hundreds of turns ... I might pivot though and use a dullahan shield in this build and let the def/res-- work instead of trying to proc doom

[tardy sierra]

I got doom mulitple times after the patch last night.
Sometimes you just get unucky

Though I'm also running dulahan whip/chest/shield, beheaded assassin bladed boots (with assassin spec), and beheaded trickster's pumpkinhead

so I'm very all-in on DoTs and proc chance

[cunning leaf]

Does whip and shield with trickster head give better chance than whip and scythe or scythe and shield?

[tardy sierra]

Don't know.
I don't have a scythe

But assassin spec gives status +100% chance as part of their passives

[dapper cove]

well today's 3seed astraltree quest is to kill a final horsey ... so now's your chance!

[tardy sierra]

Also, as far as I can tell the extra status chance on Trickster's Pumpkinhead isn't tied to the Trickster spec

just the Pumpkin Gaze ability

[tardy sierra]

Nah.

I'm only T9 right now.
Can't spawn a final horsey

[wooden vortex]

some average of 110 runs with orns of all the stages collected.

the %ages at the bottom are share of each stage of net total

[lavish belfry]

oh that is annoying if the range changes at every steps

[lavish belfry]

with all the current best boosters and buffs or?

aka what was your gear used/pets/class/time based boosters

that is a lot of Orns per run

[timid magnet]

The ranges definitely change at each step

[wooden vortex]

The data was taken last year - with best boosters available then. Trialing + 2x memory amity + ely pet

[lavish belfry]

memory hunt and appolyon?

[wooden vortex]

Not sure about that though

[lavish belfry]

not usable if I can't math out the exact boosting value it was

still usefull to know that there is a clear step value

[wooden vortex]

It's not for exact values, just to show that the last step isn't giving a 50% of total and there is a large amount of variance between runs and steps

[lavish belfry]

i was going under the premise that every step untill the final were equal

[alpine dove]

The EXP goes up with each step, so I would be surprised if the Gold and Orns didn't

[kindred anvil]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but on iOS the mini-games in T4 are slow and the game itself heats up the phone and crashes.

[halcyon lotus]

here's a link to the bug report: https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1436410259697569902

[worldly sierra]

Back to the base event: What is the play for maximizing the star/moondrop items? Regular horde dungeons?

[lucid lotus]

I run regular horde

Tho i rarely finish the dungs bc cactus/ broom cant deal with the last floors

[worldly sierra]

I think in the past I just happened to get okay amounts of drops since I ran enough towers and monuments, this time around they are bone dry because I'm doing the new event stuff more.

[lucid lotus]

Monuments could be okay aswell

• torment proofs

[twilit copper]

with monumental spec you get approx +30% event monsters in dungeons as well

[silver prism]

Does the new titan die with doom?

[cloud oracle]

Not immune to it so I would assume

[lucid lotus]

I did not manage to proc doom

Maybe hidden immunity

Its very common

[dapper cove]

the T9 version does die to doom -- gear with bonuses to status effect application and damage will help you out greatly

[cunning leaf]

Highly resistant, but not immune

[cloud oracle]

There's a lot of hidden stuff in the game but hidden status immunities is not one of them

[lucid lotus]

There is alot hiddenn status immunities that do not show in codex.

You can literaly test this with toxic and you will find things that are immune to it but not in codex

Many raids are hiddenly immune to it for examble

Also when i was testing this i found some bossess aswell

[wooden vortex]

Inflicted on t9 titan by t9 char

[lucid lotus]

Nice

[tardy sierra]

Doom doesn't deal enough damage to kill in 1 turn,
and can expire before it fully kills.

I've had anywhere from 1 to 12 ticks of damage from applying doom.
Was fighting the T9 version, but expect T10 is also doom-able

skip to 1:30 if you just wanna see the doom
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[craggy lark]

Doom is a gimmick and is just to slow to be worth it. If it applied more often it would be better....since there are only a handful of enemies you can use it on anyway

[uneven kayak]

Hi all, what’s the most effective way of farming stardrops for Hyperion

And is it feasible to get hundreds of tablets

[ebon imp]

Horde normal dungeons. Yes you can get hundreds but its a lot of grind

[uneven kayak]

Any specific tier?

Also thanks

[ebon imp]

Whatever your max is for the most floors

[dreamy flax]

you can kill the raids for couple if you have too many moondrops

[uneven kayak]

Ah, I misspoke I need both lol. Thanks!

[dreamy flax]

yeah spam dungeons

[cunning leaf]

Doom is good for people that can’t deal damage to kill in a reasonable time.
Whenever I see full doom builds with godforges and stuff, I always chuckle a little because at that point, yeah, you could be killing normally.

[timid magnet]

Do the t4 towers disappear on their own after you summon them?

[halcyon lotus]

after 24h

[timid magnet]

I swear I had a couple sitting arou d

OH.

That's brutal, there is no indication that they fade if you don't enter them

[halcyon lotus]

yeah, i should make that clearer in-game

[timid magnet]

Welp ok I probably lost quite a few towers this past week 😂

[timid magnet]

One of my kingdom members lost 300

[halcyon lotus]

i mean, there's no indication that they are permanent either. why would anyone need 300?

[timid magnet]

Amities!

[cunning edge]

Yes, amities

[halcyon lotus]

yes, but 300?

[timid magnet]

As for an indication that they are permanent, you spawn the tower and it's just there

[halcyon lotus]

you can do, what, 12 an hour?

err, let's call it 3 mins per

[timid magnet]

Definitely more than that

[halcyon lotus]

20/hour

300 is 15 hours straight

[timid magnet]

Up to 30 if you're locked in, yeah

Pretty sure my kingdom mate just wanted to have them spawned and do them over the course of many days lol

[fluid spindle]

Not being able to do 300 in one play session is probably exactly why they were dropped and not immediately used - if the acquisition rate is higher than the clear rate, an excess of towers is bound to be made

So if they were under the impression the towers just sat around forever, they might as well drop them to continue doing over time and even past the event

After all, they are very, very profitable.

[halcyon lotus]

how do you manage that on-screen

i'm just so curious

[timid magnet]

Low graphics, every other filter off

[alpine dove]

But when you complete a tower, it disappears. it doesn't sit there until despawn time.

[halcyon lotus]

but how do you keep track of what's done?

i guess trial and error?

[timid magnet]

If it sat there until despawn time that might actually clue me in that they always despawn after 24 hours

[halcyon lotus]

that'd affect clear rate, no

[timid magnet]

They disappear after you complete them

Unless there is a difference in how they behave based on device or something?

[halcyon lotus]

oh, yeah, good point

[timid magnet]

I assumed they worked like stardrop bosses for example

[halcyon lotus]

i can consider increasing the lifespan of them

[timid magnet]

Maybe wording change on the item itself too, or a graphic on the tower menu that says how long until it expires

Just a countdown on this screen would be enough

[cloud oracle]

Maybe a week to date of day dropped?

[tardy sierra]

Will the raids spawned via Celestial Moondrops de-spawn eventuall or stick around indefinitely like normal raids?
(same question for Tablet of Hyperion as well)

[cloud oracle]

Raids and super raids stick around until they're killed or dismissed

Same with Star drop bosses

[tardy sierra]

I think I had some of the bosses de-spawn on me

[cloud oracle]

Someone may have killed them

Unless you're talking about natural spawning bosses

[tardy sierra]

oh, are they global bosses after they're spawned?

[cloud oracle]

They exist until it's killed it can respawn but if it doesn't a new natural spawning boss will show up within a distance of the old one and a new boss will be chosen. Star drops and monster remain drops are always public spawns

[tardy sierra]

ah, didn't realize that

guess someone else killed them then

[cloud oracle]

If you live in a busy city it's possible if you party with people they also could have gone to your or and stole them

[warm otter]

When players outdone the dev expectation of 300 towers...

Someone spawn so many summoning scrolls in Thailand and we can't even move near that area if the raid layer is on.

He moved house and created another area same as it.

Your phone just close the game by itself when it try to render the raid boss.

[wooden vortex]

Would like to see a screen of the raid-ocalypse

[warm otter]

I've only seen his second one. My whole screen just lag like crazy....

I'm curious whether the tower do the same thing.

[timid magnet]

Anyone have an ornate arms of mnemosyne?

[cloud oracle]

Here's famed

And sup

Just got this

[coral jetty]

Full orn gear during the event, pretty decent for doing little fighting. Tried to set up as many towers to floor 5 as I could but only did about 80 kills in an hour. Made about 165m

[warm otter]

How the hell I get 42 mil on the t9 Titan.

[lucid lotus]

Nerf heretic plz

[warm otter]

I've never got 42 mi before the patch. Something is wrong somewhere.

[silent junco]

Titan buff

[warm otter]

Oh wait....

[supple helm]

So any chance of getting a more deterministic way to do t4 towers, or are they gonna be a brute force guessing game forever?

[coral jetty]

It's not that bad. It's just a memory game

[supple helm]

It's the #1 complaint about these things because doing them over and over gets old very quickly. A more deterministic way would make them less tedious and more fun. If you don't mind them that's fine, but your comment is not helpful

[timid magnet]

It's a pretty helpful comment actually

[supple helm]

Pointing out obvious things isn't that helpful, actually. I'm just taking one last shot at getting it changed to something better, because memory puzzles suck when it comes to repetitive, grindy content

[timid magnet]

I thought it was as helpful as your complaint 🤷‍♂️

[bronze raven]

the complaint is pretty fair and common. the clown reaction isn't helpful tho

[cunning leaf]

I mean, it could still have been a memory puzzle without the added, annoying randomness. Just have the order based on the puzzle of the first door on the first floor.

[bronze raven]

i'm now at over 100 clears, longer sessions feels very draining

so yeah, agreed

[ebon imp]

After a handful of clears I remembered to start using my fragments on the t9 key

[bronze raven]

ideally the rewards on the titan should also be rebalanced, guaranteed DM / 3 amities (faster than regular hunting) per titan is too much imo

[supple helm]

Yeah it's the kind of thing you don't really want to sit down and grind, better to do in short bursts between other content. Which is a shame cuz I'd love to grind them for longer

Not really worth the hassle without a guarnateed dm imo

[cunning leaf]

I lost track, but I think I’m around 80. I crafted 100 at one point and have 36 left, but I crafted a handful before that hundred and got some for free from the event.

[bronze raven]

codex kills on the titan will tell you how many you cleared

[cunning leaf]

This is why you the BIG Yoshi

[bronze raven]

that's fair. Im just wierded out that clearing this thing is more efficient than actual amity hunting

[cunning leaf]

I’m at 71. I guess I also did die a handful of times because I’ve been using this to also farm some monsties

I will also add that I do like these towers. I’m complaining about the random stairways and the random resets because those are the most annoying/least fun parts of it, but I do actually enjoy the t4 towers.

[supple helm]

In my head I'm equating it to farming monuments for dms. Sure monuments take a bit longer but you also potentially get more dms depending on the events. The nice thing about these is you can pop one whenever you want and it's not event dependent

[cunning leaf]

Just hoping at reset tonight there are still monsters in there that I want to farm. Arisen Mammon was last week and both fallen heretic and multiple arisen cthulhu are this week

[timid magnet]

Hopefully they still work post event

[cunning leaf]

I doubt they will, since dullahan bells don’t.

[timid magnet]

Apparently the bells do

[bronze raven]

but... they do

[cunning leaf]

Oh, huh

I thought everyone said they didn’t during the event

[bronze raven]

dangy originally said they shouldnt be but here we are

[timid magnet]

^

[cunning leaf]

Are the spawns private or could I share the boss with party members that weren’t t10 when the event happened?

But yeah, if they’re available now, then maybe these towers will stay available too

[alpine dove]

180 Ascents completed, average under 2 min per ascent. The backtracking doesn't really bother me anymore, lmao.
I do wish it was more of a logic puzzle than a memory puzzle, but I can't really complain. I'll gladly take any kind of puzzle.

[coral jetty]

Also, they're the same puzzles everytime so you already know how to solve them. Ascending the tower should be relatively quick. The worst part is when the correct path is the last door on all 4 floors, but any first door path is extremely quick

[twilit copper]

t4 tower isn't only a memory game: it's RNG for duration, with memory

memory game would be if you get shown the sequence of the doors when you open it , once, for like 3 seconds

then you have to remember them while you do the puzzles

[tardy sierra]

That would certainly be nicer

Cold even do symbols instead of just LMR

Would re-inforce the memory part of both remembering what symbols go with which direction between towers, and then also the paths to take for the current one

[timid magnet]

Odie why does Aegir stance decrease mag by only 30% but att by 90%

[craggy lark]

when in doubt, blame BoF, why dont melee get.... what do melee get punished with....why cant melee......

[bronze raven]

it used to not reduce att as drastically

#hof-discussion message

[timid magnet]

Is bof a valid reason now though? Would aegir reducing att by 30% even be very useful to bof users?

Their def is still very low by virtue of using bof, beo/deity already get to use aegir with mag

[cunning edge]

I mean, BoF is totally opposite of Aegir stance

[dusky trail]

Does anyone know the %gymir stance increases?

[forest leaf]

why are you still here you literally say completed lmao

[cunning leaf]

Your game reset on the rewards screen. Mine did that too yesterday.

Funnily enough, that bug does let you double dip

[forest leaf]

ahhhh gotcha good to know the cause

[cunning leaf]

I don’t recommend forcing it, though. I doubt devs are kind to bug abuse, even if you’re ultimately saving a piddling amount of resources.

[forest leaf]

naturally

unfortunately my game crashes a ton in the tower puzzles for whatever reason so I’m surprised this is the first time seeing this

[cunning leaf]

Yeah, same. Mine usually crashes during a puzzle or fight though, not at reward screens

[cunning edge]

10% iirc

Is too OP ||||

[dusky trail]

Hmmm 🤔

I wish it was 20% 😔

[timid magnet]

Weird question but has anyone obtained an ornate Mnemosyne Amphora?

[sick sandal]

me

[timid magnet]

Ok good

[sick sandal]

I don't think I'll ever use it but it looks pretty

[timid magnet]

I mean it's BIS for memory hunting

[sick sandal]

huh?

with what main weapon?

I thought trialing was best still

[bronze raven]

a celestial one hander with 5 hearts of mnemosyne and the amphora beats the trialing weapon

13,7% > 10%

[sick sandal]

aaahhh yes I forgot

I knew that info
what a bad timing I just readorn my C.lute with pet act haha

[cunning leaf]

I gots one too

[sick sandal]

quick eveyone point and laugh with our ornate drop

[cunning leaf]

They just jelly

[fluid spindle]

It's the type of ornate that really doesn't matter lol - standard quality is fine

[warm otter]

I'm getting a lot ornate Adorn from killing t9 Titans.... I'm actually surprise whether I will get used to climbing towers again...

[cunning leaf]

The more useless the ornate, the greater the flex.

[dark arrow]

If it's not 12% ward adorn it's 🚮

[sick sandal]

Something changed cuz yesterday I wasn't doing this

Wdym I deal damage cap after she casts prism wall 💀

[wise coral]

Pretty sure it is one or more of the Titan buffs doing it. Not sure which ones, but I don’t start doing that damage until I have a few.

[cunning leaf]

I noticed Oceanus gives me a massive damage buff.

[sick sandal]

Pretty sure you missed the "yesterday I wasn't doing this..."

[wise coral]

Yeah. I also wasn’t doing that much damage two days ago, but suddenly started doing damage cap.

[timid magnet]

Odie will the t4 tower mnemonics still work after the event

[rocky pumice]

So is a shadow of the titans hard mode even worth it?

[shy oriole]

Indifferent about this

[sick sandal]

if you don't want it guve it to me

[cunning leaf]

BiS for towers

[timid magnet]

Any chance we could get confirmation on whether the mnemosyne mnemonics will work after the event is over? Or will they be unusable like balor mnemonics

[lucid lotus]

I belive it was said that they wont

[timid magnet]

Would love to see the source for that

I'm also hoping if that's the case, they would change their minds like they did with the dullahan bell

[lucid lotus]

Couldnt find the reply, but i remember that dangy, covyn, purly or odie did comment when that was asked

I belive it was purly in ingame chat

[tardy sierra]

Will the Tablet of Hyperion be usable after the event ends,
or do I need to summon all my hyperion world raids before then?

[dreamy flax]

they're usable so are star&moondrops

[dark arrow]

New event was fun, T4 tower was 🚮

[cunning leaf]

Minus the floor rng mechanic, I liked the t4 towers

[dark arrow]

Which is 95% of what you do actively on that that content

[cunning leaf]

I mean, it’s just annoying filler between killing the event monsters, the arisen cthulhus, and doing the actual puzzles.

The rewards are also very good. Too good for how easy it is. Getting floor rewards in addition to being able to farm certain enemies and getting 3 random amities at the end is great.

[cunning leaf]

So, we probably won’t be spawning any additional towers once the event ends, but do ya think I can spawn like 100 in right before the event ends to do over the course of the day, or would we also expect them to be unenterable?

[dreamy flax]

I don't see a reason to not try it (unless you want to craft keys for the next weeks)

[vapid rune]

After the event is gone, are we going to be able to use the Mnemonic of Mnemosyne?

[cloud oracle]

unsure as odie hasnt said either way yet

[cunning leaf]

Time to find out if these can still be run after the event.

[timid magnet]

I popped a few and kept the rest to test if they spawn

Reminder to everyone, they disappear after 24 hrs

[cunning leaf]

If I don’g die to bad luck in any of mine, I’ll have 325 shade of mnemosyne kills

[forest leaf]

Looks like they can still be used

[dreamy flax]

good event looking forward to farming it in December, surly it'll be there

[coral jetty]

Just dont fight anything except the boss

[cunning leaf]

But Arisen Mammon…

I still need an ornate arisen qata and kala

[cunning leaf]

NOOOOOO

The event ending cycled the monster spawns so arisen mammon is no longer in the tower 😭

In fact, there is nothing worth farming in t4 towers right now :/

Guess I am just skipping to boss on all of these.

[timid magnet]

The cthulhu are gone? Sad

[warm otter]

Wait what no monster???

[cunning leaf]

They left during the weekly rotation and arisen mammon was available for 17 hours, but now there are neither.

[dapper cove]

Interesting, chests in the t4 tower no longer say you acquired an item or show a continue screen, but the ambrosia still accumulates 4 towers later the chests started popping correctly

[minor cove]

Super fun refresh of the event, really enjoyed both the T4 and T9 towers

[timid magnet]

Same

[vapid rune]

Agree, it was a breath of fresh air to farm something other than gear 🙂

[cunning leaf]

I did a few t4 towers. Nothing excessive.

16 full pages of amities to filter through. I had more but at one point I had to go through a recollect a bunch.

[vapid rune]

I wish same amities stack tbh