Summoner Classline Feedback

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Heya, here is the community feedback to the summoner classline gathered from multiple sources!

1. Classes/Specs
https://www.reddit.com/r/OrnaRPG/comments/14me6ai/state_of_summoner/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1123642659186147349
2. Gear
https://www.reddit.com/r/OrnaRPG/comments/14me6ai/state_of_summoner/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1123642659186147349
3. Party/Play
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1124999789134741515
4. Suggestions
https://discord.com/channels/748188991852904621/1009229920087593000
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https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/905399265784913960
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1123642659186147349
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1121721985584599100
5. Fixes
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1124209881084338218

Please add your thoughts here
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1125691625759330384

1. Classes/Specs
Summoner

• extreme powerspike in combination with Benefacter
  • next to no gear needed
  • can tackle t10 content
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    Benefactor
• gives summons immense power early on without investment
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  Grand Summoner (Auriga)
  https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1123642659186147349
• strong in short encounters, slow in long battles
• unreliability of giving multipliers to summons
• unreliable defense mechanism
  Grand Summoner Hydrus
  https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1123642659186147349
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• long setup
• unnatural passive setup
• incufficient in horde content
• worse ascencion scaling in pact dmg
• more unreliable defense mechanism

2. Gear

• low stats
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• summon stats have minor impact because of their additive nature
  https://www.reddit.com/r/OrnaRPG/comments/14me6ai/state_of_summoner/jq3lguw?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2
• event gear/summons give huge advantages
  https://www.reddit.com/r/OrnaRPG/comments/14me6ai/state_of_summoner/jq3p32v?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

3. Party Play
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1124999789134741515

• GS slows party play down because of FS
• GS can't carry
• members take summon slots

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4. Suggestions
Classes/Specs

• decrease stat passive on Benefactor and give it 'instead of buffing yourself you're buffing your summons'
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• make Battalions split dmg between summons with a multiplier/ summoner and summons
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• lean into t.buffs 't.buffs from gear have a higher chance to trigger. Duration of t.buffs is increased for you/ your summons.'
  #TowersBetaGSChannel
  https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1124209881084338218
• GSH stat passive scaling with summons on the field
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• semi AoE pacts/ exploding summons
  https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1115989834364887160
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  Summons
• redlinish/battle passive for summons
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• separate summon stats in offensive and defensive stats or even more subdivisions
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• summon stats scale with player stats
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• summoning starts a queue, during the queue player is able to act
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• summons go off instantly but apply 'you cannot summon for x turns'
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• for GHS concerns
  https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1179718548185157652

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Gear/Skills

• lower summon stat class passive and make gear stats scale with quality
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• targetable Sacrificial Pact with buffs instead of healing
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• reliable player buffing summons
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  Party Play
• decrease FS
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• decouple summon and party slots
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• add more non event -FS gear
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• Rhada Pact buffs party members
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5. Fixes

• Life Pact doublecast
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  https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1180061207038808085
• Chimera (and others) spam debuffs
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• summons codexing
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• Anubis's Rebirth removing buffs
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  #💡│suggestions message

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Heya, this is the first edit based on your feedback in
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1125691625759330384
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1123642659186147349

Edit 1

• removed t7 Attuner and t8 Grand Attuner being on par with other classes due to feedback stating otherwise
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• add skill to stop Summons from attacking to help e.g. with Parries
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• summons interacting with eachother
• variation in summon strengthening gear e.g. more crit dmg on summons instead of only summon stats
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• split Valhallhan and Summoner gear to make room for individual adjustments of said gear according to the needs of the class
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• rework Battalions to let the summons 'soak' a part of the dmg done to the summoner based on their max HP
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  Note: Battalions seems to be a hot topic since it has been discussed the most.

As alway feel free to discuss in
https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1125691625759330384
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Edit 2

• defensive AI prioritizing basic attacks equally to summons and BP
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• summons continue summoning when field is full, they should stop summoning and use other skills
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• add summons from guild shops beside celestial summons
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Edit 3
What happened so far?

• Circle of Anguish introduced a lucrative activity where GS does sit very well

also adding Martyr's Gear, very powerful but hard to farm

• grimoire summons mainly t10 Spiritgarm and Bloodwarg got introduced and sped up raids and horde dungeons for summon centric gameplay
• (Ymir) Beithir's Staff got added introducing one of the fastest party play raiding methods ig
• Rift Distorsion Gear got added supporting GS with some accuracy
• BoF spec provides GS with another horde clear mechanic

Edit 4

• possible Phaethon AI issues solved✅
  https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1177706972775190579

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Edit 5

• moved 'long setup' concern to GSH due to Bugganes and Spiritgarms existence
• scrapped adding more -FS gear due to multiple Titan Augments giving -FS
• Life Pact double cast added https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1180061207038808085
• Anubis Rebirth usage added
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• linked https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1179718548185157652

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Edit 6

• issue causing AI to overpriorize ward upkeep fixed
  (affecting warding summons such as Golems, Stonewarg and Phoenix summons)
• Rebirth changed to only clear negative status effects
  (affecting Anubis and Phoenix summons)
  #game-announcements message
• link to https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1191981123375480843
• multiple adressed concerns crossed out