General 3.6 Beta Discussion

[gentle galleon]

Hey, can't you see I'm discussin here?!

👀

[heavy widget]

👀

Oh that's so great for party play and traveling

Also means i can place my towers where ever i want

[gentle galleon]

'cept in front of a dungeon

[heavy widget]

Yeah well

I have like 2 dungeons in my ot so that's hardly ever an issue

[tacit beacon]

That is a nice change

[fierce musk]

Think this one change will go unnoticed so just pointing it rn, when you exit the character menu and load back, you'll go back to what menu you were on (If you exited on gauntlets, you'll come back on gaunt menu)

[gentle galleon]

As awkward as it is to adjust, we must

[fierce musk]

Oh, didn't mean for that to sound negative, it's actually a great thing👌

[heavy widget]

I dont like it, but i can adapt

[cinder furnace]

WOOOOO

[gentle galleon]

Remember that when you get your mirror, only items in your inventory will transfer! Pets will not but everything is free in betaland so you can just buy one again

[inland ravine]

I'd really like to see towers and dungeons separated on the world map display options. One of the issues is precisely dungeon and towers blocking access to each other when both overlap at the edge of max display distance.

If having them separated isn't a possibility, dungeons could just go back with the regular buildings as there was 0 issues that way.

[gentle galleon]

give the gift that keeps on giving, give the gift of a Gnome sprite pack

[opal geyser]

Please amity filter too 🥲🥲🥲

[cinder furnace]

i did acidently used a shrine last night thanks to memory hunt placement

[opal geyser]

Exactly

Everytime i Hunt at home I start sweating

But is still better than having them in the raid filter

[cinder furnace]

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

talk about anguish

[opal geyser]

Well that was the first iterations

[cinder furnace]

Anguish levels affects your ability to filter or select all, making the game more painfull in genenral

[opal geyser]

Wdym?

[lusty hatch]

If i increase my anguish level, can i decrease it right away?

[opal geyser]

Yes but you have to pay again for leveling up

[lusty hatch]

Pay what?

[opal geyser]

Anguish proofs

Oh you mean the PvP thing

[gentle galleon]

#1121075515235774538 as well

[next sky]

That one is good, but still Towers would be a lot better separately (they do block dungeons quite often, especially when you have to deal with OT ones from party members).

Yep, I am a slow lazy reader. I write better.

[unborn marten]

It's not letting me enter any of the new guild buildings. I've built them, but when I click them I get an "Entering . . ." Message for a split second then nothing.

[gentle galleon]

update your game

[cinder furnace]

i was joking, please don't implement this

forgot to put the mimic icon

[gentle galleon]

Make sure you're on a 3.6 version for beta, not 3.5

[unborn marten]

Oh c'mon it can't be that easy

It was that easy

[wintry dune]

Now please separate memories and shrines too

[lusty hatch]

Yeah!

I would love at least memories

I click on shrines sometimes when hunting memories

[near sage]

The exp circle is blue now

[lusty hatch]

For anguish right? Or normally?

It's a bit too much blue

Hard to see sometimes

[near sage]

Normally i think

[cinder furnace]

literaly un-expable

[worldly aurora]

Definitely having a hard time doing tap to move now, and I much prefer that to the directional controls. I didn't see a toggle to deactivate the dpad but I would prefer it gone

[lusty hatch]

The controls to go in tower are very small

I would like to it to be bigger or adjustable

[worldly aurora]

This is in regards to aethric general movement

[gentle galleon]

That would probably be for Aethric's beta forums

[lusty hatch]

So, the sprites now flash lights when its their turn? It is so the player can know better?

[heavy widget]

i think a long tap disables it in aethric

[lusty hatch]

Noticed this while playing with summoner

[drowsy scarab]

Beta doesn't add 9999999999 proof "coins"?

[heavy widget]

more like 5000

[worldly aurora]

Yeah the link is no access for me and I'm not sure how to get around that

[gentle galleon]

Did you read the rules of the server?

Sounds like an issue the Aethric server can solve, not us unfortunately

[heavy widget]

https://discord.gg/XfCq8waEgf

[worldly aurora]

Forgot to hit the thumb woops haha

[drowsy scarab]

I'm saying that cause i got 0

[tiny cedar]

Beta be absolutely fire

[heavy widget]

are you on your mirror?

[tiny cedar]

I am so excited for live

[drowsy scarab]

I'm in beta if it's what u say

[heavy widget]

yes

are you on a mirrored account

the sandbox accounts get 5000 of each proof

mirrored accounts have to play for them manually

[drowsy scarab]

I've choose sandbox when i installed in the last beta (the advity and that things)

So idk how to enable another sandbox for guilds

[heavy widget]

you will need to make another sandbox char

[drowsy scarab]

Aaaaaa

They can't make a button for reseting sandbox? 🥲

[grizzled aspen]

The new tier 10ish pets are weird

Traveling guild pet

(Those stats are with 0items, 0al and no spec)

Base beo

[gentle galleon]

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[fierce musk]

Adventurer's Guild won't be available to Orna at first, yeah?

[grizzled aspen]

Was more as a general pet talk, but we have seen the other 2 already

[fierce musk]

Man, and here I wanted the Adventurer's Sprites the most😩

[drowsy scarab]

Anguish sprites are so cool

[opal geyser]

What's the point of upgrading the guilds?

I mean the 100k-900k gold upgrade

[fleet lark]

What you find in the shop

At lvl 10 you can buy shrines

[opal geyser]

Oh before you weren't able to?

That's nice

Still why gate this behind 10 taps?

Even a T1 can max them relatively fast

[fleet lark]

Pretty sure they weren't in the shop at lvl 1

Probably affects the tier of items you can find too

[fierce musk]

Anyone found any new summons?🥲

[lusty hatch]

I think there aren't any

[next sky]

are there really purchases for allies in Runeshop?

[gentle galleon]

unless @heavy widget didn't get the sprite packs I "bought" for him

[heavy widget]

uuh

lemme check

[next sky]

That woud be the hottest news!

[heavy widget]

i got heretic, gods and annwn sprites

i also tested shrines earlier, also works

i just wish the recieving party would get the chance to activate the shrine at a time of their choosing

and not instantly

also tells you in the notification tab

[gentle galleon]

🎉🎉🎉

[cinder locust]

This is more of question, but the Adventure Guild's skin (Dragonian one). Its like a human in disguise or just a dragonian with the colors of Glatisant?

[next sky]

You're a dragon in disguise, oh yes, you aaarree, a dragon in disguise, ooooohh-oooh

[cinder locust]

Nidhogg, go back to Dragon Roost

[tacit beacon]

So, in any of the "rewards" is there an increase in "special" end of dungeon drops rates?

[modest flower]

I saw new followers in some of the guild rewards. Are there any summons to keep eyes out for?

[dull gust]

Sure this has been mentioned, but I love that towers are on a separate layer now. Great QoL improvement.

[lusty hatch]

No

[fierce musk]

It's better to just close your eyes instead😩

[modest flower]

I'll cry later

I'm too freaking hyped for the material shops

[fierce musk]

Probably another nitpick but is there anyway to turn off the flashing indicator? Kinda wanna bask in the new sprites' beauty but the flashing hurts my eyes
Maybe make it toggleable/changeable to different colors?

[covert stump]

In battle? Same as live, tied to your graphics options

[fierce musk]

Oh, I'm playing on low graphics already

Still flashing

Restarted it + disabled battle animations too, just to be sure

[gentle galleon]

Been fighting stuff on Medium with no flash

[fierce musk]

Wha??

[gentle galleon]

Oh dur, I have battle animations off

[heavy widget]

same i still get the flashing

but i also dont mind it soo

[lusty hatch]

I also had that off and appears

[fleet lark]

Maybe make it turn off with high contrast mode active?

It is a bit counter productive having darker menus and suddenly a bright white flashing light in the eyes when you start a fight

I honestly had to set a couple of inches away from face the phone for the first 10-20 fights

And I have phone lightning at minimum and high contrast mode active

[covert stump]

High contrast is mainly for text readability. I don’t think we’d lump animations in with it

Battle anims may be the option needed - afk right now, so can’t verify

[fleet lark]

I don't really want to disable battle animations to be able to look at the battle tho

Imo bright things should be toggles in graphic options

[somber oxide]

The flash is only visible for the monster sprite, correct?

[fleet lark]

Player sprite

This

Screenshot for some reason is darker than the actual thing

[covert stump]

But this flash is not beta - how are you playing the live version?

[sage mirage]

its great to see what is acting, i guess most classes only experience that in towers and horde,but summoners in every fight

[fleet lark]

I can assure you this is beta

[covert stump]

Oh, nm, we’re talking about the pulse for turn indicator

[sage mirage]

that SS has anguish level, so has to be beta.

[sage mirage]

thats what i assumed.

[covert stump]

Yes, we’ve got some new visuals in group battles. We can explore toning them down if it is a common complaint

[fierce musk]

Thanks!

[sage mirage]

i ran in tower ( not a summoner) and it gave the fights a much better feel

[fleet lark]

Thanks, cause atm is really white and bright

[covert stump]

To be clear: there is a flash when you hit something (added a few updates ago). I thought we were referring to it

[vocal inlet]

Liking how summons are semi transparent, but maybe hp/ward bars should match them a bit? They look a bit out of place.

[tacit beacon]

feed them more...they look anemic

[somber oxide]

I thought so too

[fierce musk]

Gonna miss that part tbh but yeah, great for more clarity

[fleet lark]

That is too fast to be a problem lol

[sage mirage]

ok when not spamming skills the thing does get a bit too bright overall.

[fleet lark]

While this stays long enough to hurt my eyes

Imo since everyone becomes transparent the white pulse is not necessary

[sage mirage]

enemies are transparent when acting, but not when selecting target

[inland ravine]

Yeah, sprites or anything flashing for whatever reason should always have a disable option. This makes horde fights unsufferable to look at.

[fleet lark]

and it shouldn't be an option tied with animations

[drowsy scarab]

What is this used for?

[vocal inlet]

You can use them to make a party and fight as the monsters

[inland ravine]

Some sort of pokemon battle in the guild.

[drowsy scarab]

I'm playing beta alone 🥲

[gentle galleon]

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[vocal inlet]

You fight with them, not with others

[drowsy scarab]

How i use that

(as i started this here, let me finish it here)

[gentle galleon]

Guild Trials need 3 or more aspects

[vocal inlet]

Need 3 and go to guild.

[whole ether]

I think there are only down side to bind the dm layer with item, since the new layer dungeon and tower release

[modest flower]

Arcanists are a pain to find. Is it possible to like, summon one? Lmao

[violet perch]

Guys where can I find the guild menu?

[fierce musk]

Build the guild buildings/update your client

[violet perch]

Done

But I can't find it

[heavy widget]

what version are you on

Also guilds are in here

[violet perch]

I have the buildings but I don't what else to do

[heavy widget]

Open this menu then

[heavy widget]

Opens this one for me

[violet perch]

Oh I got it, you have to click on the circle not the characters

Thanks

[heavy widget]

np

[chrome pine]

I am not receiving the code via email, could anyone help?

stable Orna working fine

[heavy widget]

Do you have a mirror account or any previously created sandbox accounts bound to your email?

[chrome pine]

I only have one account, I deleted the stable version and when trying to access the beta version, the code does not arrive

[heavy widget]

Did you participate in any prior beta?

[chrome pine]

yes, more than 1 year ago probably

[heavy widget]

Oh well no clue then

[next depot]

Your live character is not recoverable through the beta - you will need a mirror. Place a request in the mirror request thread, I'll get to them as I'm able

[chrome pine]

ok thanks!

[chrome pine]

sorry for the question, but where is the place to make the request? I did not find it

[vagrant drift]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1098600696460349450

[vocal inlet]

I like having the whole months events in game, but the way it is with greyed out events is kinda hard to see and a little confusing . Glad it's here however.

Maybe tags like -completed and -upcoming may be easier to read.

[lusty hatch]

I would like it

[opal geyser]

+1 still it's a good qol feature

[fringe scroll]

Any chance we could slip this suggestion into 3.6 as well?
#💡│suggestions message

It's a bit tiresome to reopen the game when I'm in a tower just to participate in kingdom activities, let alone the fact that I'd need to reopen the game again just to make the return to tower dialogue to pop up after doing kingdom activities (gauntlet/raid).

[obtuse mauve]

Does anyone else keep getting the grant permission every time you open the beta app?

I’m using an iPhone 14 pro max on the latest iOS

Ok so I’ve just found I had an update to do since downloading the beta app last night

[hollow yacht]

are the tower currencies in the beta going to be moved to the live game? because spending just 10 shards for a class is wonderful.

[opal geyser]

No it's beta perks

[hollow yacht]

unfortunate

[cinder locust]

What? You want people to be Celestial classes in like a day so quickly? This would be very unfair to those who went in serious grinding

[rustic agate]

My only complaint right now about new content is that there is not enough info up front on what exactly to do

Like most of us will figure it out but then I can't imagine the unnecessary flurry of questions that will follow from others

Would it be worth having an NPC for each to do a side questline for a bit of a tutorial ?

[unborn marten]

Wait, don't you like helping newbies?

This community has always been so welcoming, I don't see that changing.

[opal geyser]

Definitely a small questline could be helpful

I wasn't able to wrap my head around some features

[unborn marten]

They'll just click through it.

Then head to the discord or the subreddit for help.

It's not a bad idea, just not a surefire cure.

[rustic agate]

I do enjoy helping but not if its the same question 1000 times lol

Which i foresee happening without a small questline

Or something of that nature to help describe features and force you to do a tutorial

Like 'gain one proof of anguish'

Go do it instead of ask how to do it lol

With a tip underneath on killing bosses or raids for them

Idk exact best way to do it but that would be my ultimate suggestion

[dusky salmon]

im with you with the traveler guild, they dont indicate that you need to try to open exploration tab to see what you need to do, but in the case of anguish is more than clear that you need to kill bosses/raids to try to get proofs of anguish

[rustic agate]

Agreed

Anguish feels more clear but traveller and adventurer im kinda like wtf do i do here

More so traveller

[dusky salmon]

yeah, it took me a little time know that i must activate the tab and start counting steps

[rustic agate]

Assume this is intended but when beta hits game the material reward choices should be materials that are actually hard to acquire like hardened steel / herbs/ cort/ etc.

That would be my only other input at this time

[dusky salmon]

I got today cort as reward, 52 cort for 104 proofs

[rustic agate]

Ahh so it cycles. Im cool with that

Just plz no wood /stone/,garbage mats that are refinery fodder anyways

[rustic agate]

Boom. Devs announced a blog post explaining travelers guild

Much more clear🙏thank you NF

[vapid burrow]

Looks like all the new pets have magic skills, some have magic and attack skills, I didnt find one with only attack skills. Did I miss a pet?

[fluid epoch]

Not sure if anyone has suggested this, but since all the guilds have followers in their shop you can purchase, can there be summons in stock as well please?

[fierce musk]

#1121146789735710840 message

[fluid epoch]

Did not see that, thank you for pointing it out

[light nymph]

any talks about HoC?

[gentle galleon]

I think that's still just lingering from the patch and won't be touched in 3.6

I could be wrong

[next depot]

Yup

[lusty hatch]

What's HoC btw

[pallid owl]

Heart of change

Material refund for ascension (what is originally proposed)

[lusty hatch]

Oh ok

[light nymph]

so the step 2 of the 3 part balance patches isn't starting in 3.6 yet? gotcha

[opal geyser]

I guess next part of balance patch will arrive after orn being selected

[left charm]

Let's see what bothers me about the mission is that it doesn't adjust to your level... why don't they make it kill higher tier bosses???

[covert stump]

which mission? i don't think any missions were added in beta

[left charm]

Sorry for not explaining myself well... I'm talking about the guild missions that can be created and done. but for example they ask me to kill 45 tier 1 rats... it can't be configured that the guild is at my level so the monsters I kill are also at my level

[covert stump]

The Adventurer's Guild is really for Hero of Aethric at the moment. So, Tier 1 quests can be completed in Tier 1 areas

[left charm]

oh ok

[left charm]

Of the 3 guilds, which one is for orna rpg?

[heavy widget]

Circle of Anguish and Travelers Guild are gonna be added to Orna in 3.6

[dusky salmon]

travelers for orna only and anguish for both games

[heavy widget]

The adventurers guild may come at a later time

[vocal inlet]

Also, it looks like it is adjustable. You need to have seen the enimies first, so got fight stuff then you can change the targets

[fleet lark]

The new way to find materials in the wild is pretty neat

Also being able to see and interact with dungeons and towers during area control/explore is an incredible qol

[royal panther]

quick question, will Google fit be the only option to count steps on Android?

[covert stump]

Both iOS and android are pedometer only. No health apps

[royal panther]

is that part of the Google Play Services suite? or a phone feature that might work in the background without phoning back? my concern (and I'm aware it's an unpopular one) is that I basically don't want to give Google my health sensor info so I keep it permanently disabled on Google apps and services, but it's made me stop playing playing other games with step counting gameplay like pokemon go

[covert stump]

No, a pedometer is just a sensor that mobile devices have

[hallow nacelle]

Since we got separate toggles for dungeons/tower and buildings, it would be nice if guilds got a separate toggle or maybe add them to towers and dungeons

[next sky]

Are raids really to be removed from Olympia Towers?

[wintry dune]

The mid-floor raids are to be removed

[next sky]

good

[rigid beacon]

I like the new Castle Coli icon

its got that shiny pizzazz now

[clear spire]

Now with more Pixels per Pixel

[lusty hatch]

Nice

[vocal inlet]

Never noticed, do like!

[heavy widget]

Yeah, also brazier sprite

[fleet lark]

Is it normal that t10 wolpertinger doesn't use sweep in a horde dungeon with lute adorned with pet ai augments?

Also gunnr up and spams magic skills most of the time

[lusty hatch]

I dont think it's to be used in fights at all

[fleet lark]

If he doesn't use sweep in horde dungeons I don't suppose he will use it in horde encounters while I do amities

Making it having sweep a bit useless

He also shouldn't be using magic skills when gunnr is up i feel

[lusty hatch]

Yeah that's true

Should have the AI

[wintry dune]

With those number of skills forget ever using him as a new carry build pet.

Even with 4 skills AP seldomly uses DC now.

[fiery hearth]

Just scrolling through everything here since I hadn’t before, and to add to one thing from last week…
The newly added flashing from a few updates back has been really rough, I’m a bit sensitive to it (and the flashing bouncing off my glasses doesn’t help). Seeing that more flashing got added is a bit of a shame since I have to turn several things down in the graphics just to avoid it.
I’d love to see it be a toggle so I can actually enjoy the graphical work that has gone into this game

For a more opinion based comment…
Accessibility is something I feel should always have a decently high level of priority in a modern game so that people of all kinds can enjoy a game without the solution being “turn off other aspects of the game”

Of course, I’m not expecting The Last of Us levels of accessibility options, just to be clear on that front

[lusty hatch]

I wish we could turn that flashing off

Annoys me a bit

[fiery hearth]

I always turned off battle animations cause they took too long and it slowed the game down. When I saw we could speed them up I was super stoked I could actually watch the animations play out.
Nope, I don’t get to cause of photosensitivity, so I gotta turn it off… And I think that’s just really unfortunate

[maiden sundial]

Instead of mid floor raids in towers could we get a chest room with 3-5 chests?

[opal geyser]

Wish granted, but half of them is a mimic encounter

[whole ether]

toxic 2M coral has been changed

[clear spire]

More coral income, less coral sprites. Pretty neat

[rustic agate]

Is fixing these prices on the slate

May as well take them off the list

[covert stump]

not beta - feel free to use #💡│suggestions with prices you'd like to see 😉

[rustic agate]

Will do! Thanks for quick response

[covert stump]

at the moment, these are designed to be resource sinks for those who do not have anything else left to spend shards on

they shouldn't be seen as a main motivator for running towers

[rustic agate]

I opened a discussion thread to discuss more as to not distract from Beta talk

I just dont see anyone running towers at a rate of 2 scrolls per tower completion, and that's if you find a 40-50 floor tower nearby that disappears to 20 floors in just a couple days. But ya more discussion in the thread

[inland ravine]

tyvm for adding the option to disable the flashing sprites.

[lusty hatch]

Oh cool that got added

[inland ravine]

Just some nit-picking, but the faded-out sprites for things that weren't acting could have been made baseline without being tied to battle effects. That was useful and not tied to the issue with the flashing.

It also seems that access to exploration and control now requires mandatory navigating through the travelling guild menu. Shortcut by pressing the lower part of the icon was very welcome, hoping it can be added back.

[covert stump]

You can long press for Explore/Control

[lusty hatch]

😮

[light nymph]

still nothing about the good old feature double tap to reset map orientation option?

[fiery hearth]

I miss that one...

[maiden sundial]

I actually love that idea.

[fleet lark]

Just noticed, thanks a lot❤️

[modest flower]

Hey, I just noticed when swapping to a class with a follower to summoner, then back, the follower returns too

Idk when that happened but that is friggin' dope, thank you

[clear spire]

That happened a while ago

It's in Live, too

[near sage]

Oracle spec still doesn't remember the second amity when you swap to another spec and return to oracle 😦 any chance of that being "fixed" in this beta? 👀

[lusty hatch]

In live it does 🤔

If you save the set as oracle at least

[near sage]

Well yes

But you need to reload the set

[lusty hatch]

What you mean by reload?

I just change sets normally

And if im oracle it's all there

[clear spire]

Yiri means that if you're on a loadout, and then swap to oracle, you have to load the loadout back up

[near sage]

Im using oracle and my world gear has 2 vd amities. I swap to bard. I swap back to oracle. My world gear only has 1 amity now

[lusty hatch]

Ah, that must be true yeah

[fierce musk]

Can we expect new summons in guild shops to come along with the patch?