Travelers' Guild General Discussion

[pure talon]

Hey, can't you see I'm walkin here?!

As a reminder, do put bugs for this feature in #1097574048294260878 instead of here if you remember - makes bug smushing easier

[serene copper]

Man, the sprites for all the new buildings are just too good😩👌

Are they supposed to not work for now though?

Can't get in on any of the new buildings

[lyric gyro]

You need to update your client

Having the same issue here

Not really a bug, just need to be patient

[pure talon]

Update should deploy to you soon™️

[serene copper]

Uhh, I uninstalled the previous beta app after it was done; only reinstalled it after this stuff dropped

[lyric gyro]

Yeah but the update may still be rolling out

[serene copper]

Ahh, I see

[pure talon]

The update itself didn't push, you probably just installed the old verison

[serene copper]

Thanks for the clarification o/

[lyric gyro]

Check the storepage

If you see that, you're waitin' sucka

[jaunty robin]

Current version of the beta - or atleast the one im on is 3.6.3alpha

[pure talon]

Check to see if you have 3.6 in game

[lyric gyro]

3.5 here

[jaunty robin]

Oh now I'm on 3.6.4beta

[boreal pecan]

Has anyone figured out how to use aspects?

I'm in 3.6 with all guilds but I'm clueless

[pure talon]

slot 'em in the button in the bottom right of the world view

that's your traveller's guild menu

[jaunty robin]

You place em in the bottom right thing and take a walk

[pure talon]

and then they can be used for #1121079021153832981

[boreal pecan]

Oh the exploration

[devout willow]

price differences between ort and others seems a bit borked possibly

(this is technically in the adventurer guild shop but i didnt see a thread for that one)

[boreal pecan]

I find it very weird how we have to interact in order to open the walking menu

[pure talon]

(Adventurer's Guild won't be tested in Orna Beta 3.6)

[boreal pecan]

Took me a while to realise that we need to click on top of the button if we want walk mode, bottom if we want to explore mode

[devout willow]

gotcha, my b

[neat jewel]

Isnt adventurer guild exclusive to HoE

[pure talon]

Adventurer's is coming to Orna later, and Traveller's is coming to Aethric later(?)

[devout willow]

yeah i noticed only one of each was listed in the notes for each game but since i could build the adventurer's guild i took a snoop at it

[remote kayak]

Travelers guild material reward feedback:

• random materials available in each day is ok but not my favorite. If the goal is an additional way to get materials for ascensions, this is effectively just going to be a really small drop in the bucket compared to current systems. Something is better than nothing, but I'd like to see a dedicated materials tab to just buy what I need with my tokens
• the randomized cost needs to go, especially if the materials available each day stay random. No reason to wait say 9 days for a material you're currently targeting only to have it be 5x as expensive as everything else that day because RNG

[vital gorge]

How does one start the trials of travelers guild

Says i need a party of manifests

I need to walk?

[jaunty robin]

you do need to walk yes

[solar hinge]

Damn

Walking?

[jaunty robin]

Slot those aspects in and take a walk

[pure talon]

players of a GPS game when they have to walk: 😱

[vital gorge]

That doesn't appear to me

[sage river]

jokes on you, the step mecanism works with jumping jacks :D

[pure talon]

bottom right in the world view

[jaunty robin]

its the menu on the bottom right

[vital gorge]

Oh thanks

[jaunty robin]

make sure to allow it to use your devices pedometer

so it can track your steps, even while you dont have the app open

[pure talon]

I promise the game will use the pedometer for pedometer reasons and not for non-pedometer reasons

[vital gorge]

This is nice!

What if i run stopped

In a machine

Will count?

[thick nimbus]

What if I strap my phone to my cats?

[vital gorge]

It will count

[pure talon]

Whatever the rules of your device pedometer, that will apply

[vital gorge]

I do 6k steps daily 🤔

40k weekly is a bit high haha

[pure talon]

After many miles

(the rates are boosted because beo, tamer, and a bunch of pet act stuff)

[vital gorge]

Whaaaat

That's awesome

I hope the more permission to count my steps doesn't drain more battery...

Since the app will be active in background

[jaunty robin]

it gets updated once you open the app again so im guessing only the pedometer runs in the background

[vital gorge]

🤔

Still need to watch out for that

[hexed token]

Is the vd increase from walking?

[jaunty robin]

those are bestial bonds

[vital gorge]

I wonder how many steps i will need to buy that pet

It's good for memory huntings, 15% more

With beo ofc

[thick nimbus]

I will definitely grind for that pet

[vital gorge]

Same haha

Even if i need to run like crazy

I will be fit for that pet

[hexed token]

Funny, I clock in about 2-3 km in my school walking each day...this will be NICE to have

[solar hinge]

So we get a new aoe pet, but it will do the required hit once in a moon

[gilded summit]

So beo is now the go to class for memory hunting? Interesting

[cursive granite]

Finally something we're good at!

[boreal pecan]

Well we are good at deep endless, if we are crazy enough

[cursive granite]

My steps aren't being counted if the beta app is closed.

I just walked out to the mailbox and none of those steps counted.

#sad

[hexed token]

OoOoO If walking around my classroom doesn't count...my iphone counts those steps, and I get about 2-3km 15k+ steps a day

[pure talon]

There's been some lingering bugs with step tracking so that might still happen

[hexed token]

well, its called beta for a reason

[pure talon]

Some people might not have steps track for them, others might have it track intermittently

[remote kayak]

Any idea if there are phone settings that might block it konq?

(Other than obvious Orna permissions)

[pure talon]

No idea, thankfully the bug hasn't happened to me

Different phones do their deal differently too, so make sure when reporting bugs about step tracking that you include your phone type

Google Fit and apps like that are good to compare steps on a fitness app vs. steps on beta Orna

[cursive granite]

Yeah, steps aren't counting at all unless the app is open.

At least for me.

[cold axle]

Does Orna pull step data from apple fitness or apple health app?

[pure talon]

I think it's just your phone's pedometer

[low bough]

Where will the aspects be found in base game? Random/Rare mob drop?

[gilded summit]

Apple has all of that centralized in the health app, I’d assume it comes from that. That’s what Pokémon Go did at least

[devout willow]

EXP walk on a T10 pet

[rustic owl]

walk to t11

[low bough]

I would walk 500 miles and I would walk 500 more, just to see the exp bar just too move a smidgen more....

[swift mauve]

costs are not random, btw. based on rarity (just like other costs)

[remote kayak]

Scalestone and red dragonite are both superior rarity, wildly different cost for 26 mat difference

Fogstone is also superior rarity with a (seemingly) random cost

[blissful trail]

Afaik

It's also tier based

Red Draconite is t6, scalestone is t3

hence the difference, despite being same rarity

[remote kayak]

Ah.

[blissful trail]

Lyonite is super expensive iirc

[remote kayak]

Thats... actually worse than it being random lol

Ok, new feedback:

• gut the current cost system completely, no cost basis on rarity or tier since both are honestly meaningless. As examples: ortanite is legendary rarity and one of the easiest mats to farm in the game. Dragonite is tier 1, but doesn't really get used until T6ish?

• cost should either be uniform: 1 proof of trial = 2 mats (arbitrary numbers)

Or

• cost should be based on the type of mobs that primarily drop them. Raid drops = 3x the cost, boss drops = 2x the cost, regular monsters = 1x cost

[low bough]

This is feedback about all the sprites/followers/(summons if any). They should require the previous one to buy before you can get next. Otherwise people will only save up for the finnial one and the rest will go unused, only being bought by completionist.

Edit: maybe not sprites but thoughts still similar

Kinda adds some progression. Can go 'oh hey they on the 3rd pet for that guild'

[cosmic surge]

Will orna be able to track my steps even when closed after I granted the permission to the app or do I need to keep it running the whole day?

[low bough]

Yep, was something they talked about in a post a while ago! Think It would be DoA without that feature:D

[cold gorge]

Currently you need to open the app once per day, then open it again later in the day to ensure the steps log.

[river sigil]

I am soooo stoked for this

[low bough]

Tbh, I have been trying to motivate myself to exercise more, maybe this will help. (Do I need to get a Fitbit or similar to help? XD)

[cold gorge]

No - device pedometer currently

[pure talon]

Communication between different things is tough in general, so getting this to semi-work is awesome

[low bough]

Dam, hoping doing pushups would count if I used a fitbit for calories. Good to know. Definitely something that would be hard to prevent cheating with.

[solar hinge]

Wait, are you saying all the steps I do, even when the game is not open will count towards this?

[hexed token]

That is the idea

it does appear to be "not perfect" in its counting right now though

[cursive granite]

Currently you can just shake the phone, or strap it to a ceiling fan or your dog, to cheat for steps.

I guess that's a limitation shared by all pedometers, though.

[low bough]

No matter what they do there is something people can do.

PoGo had same issues.

[cold gorge]

You only really cheat yourself by not walking - walking is healthy!

[rough coral]

How do you join a guild

[low bough]

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
You didn't grow.
You didn't improve.
You took a shortcut and gained nothing.
You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.

(Felt this meeme was appropriate to those who knew it)

[low bough]

Build the building

[rough coral]

Im clicking on it and its not doing anything

[low bough]

Update your app

[serene copper]

Does strapping it to a dog count as account sharing?

[rough coral]

Ty

[solar hinge]

Wait, does it count lower or higher

One is bad the other is perfect.

[long harness]

Currently, the tier of the Kingdom Gold and Kingdom Orns rewards within the Traveller's Guild is tied to the Level of the building.
Which means my Lv. 10 building has locked my main, a T3, out of buying the Kingdom Gold and Kingdom Orns from the Guild Shop.

While I understand the correlation, I don't think it's a particularly great idea to interlock the tier of the K.Gold and K.Orns with the building level.

I could just not level the building beyond my tier, but that may not be perfectly clear to newer players that build the Traveller's Guild building and believe that investing into it would provide them benefits, rather than locking them out of things.

The materials offered as well seem to apply similar logic, where what is offered is related to the building level, rather than the player tier.
However, I'm not entirely opposed to this, at least for the materials, as Shops apply similar logic.

[cursive granite]

Lower. Way, way lower.

[white skiff]

This guild is so cool

I wanna be the very best like no ever was

But seriously, arc the lad arena vibes and I love it

I have like 13000km on pokemon go

Now to triple that in orna

[cursive granite]

I've been at 399 steps since 10 am. App's been closed or in the background and none of those steps have counted.

[boreal pecan]

Upgrading buildings is unfun since you just have to tap 10 x 2 times (the requirements are so low that they are easily attainable by normal T3s) .

The only notable differences are the keep big upgrades where you have a sense of investment and achievement.

The fact that you can overlevel a guild and lock yourself out from some tier gated rewards could be a bug, but can also be the inspiration for the solution: buildings should level with your tier and no more click spamming

[serene copper]

Dunno if that means completing an entry, doing it partially, or just seeing the monster

[long harness]

it does say Complete

I imagine it needs complete entries

[graceful granite]

Thanks for pointing this out, I definitely would've over-leveled them and been confused on alts.

I still say some special cases (like your own guildhall, or maybe black markets?) should allow you to buy tier+1 (up to 9), same as drops.

[jaunty robin]

Apparently not, you just have to have seen the monster you're trying to unlock #1065800580448125049 message

[long harness]

coolio

[cold axle]

Has anyone been able to get iPhone to sync steps?

[gilded summit]

Still at 0. It asks me for permission every time I open the menu after resetting the app

[cold axle]

Same

[remote kayak]

This might be a new vs old beta character issue

My beta character from towers beta is stuck at 0, the one I made a bit ago for anguish tokens is getting steps

If somebody else wants to test that would be neato

[gilded summit]

Ah, curious. I’ll test that out

[gilded summit]

I can confirm this is the case

Instantly started getting steps on a new character

[limpid harbor]

File as a beta bug?

[remote kayak]

Look at me, I solved a thing

Yay

[limpid harbor]

Definitely don't want to have to start a new char to get steps on release, lol

[gilded summit]

Already did

My old mirror also doesn’t have any aspects, which makes testing a headache

Not sure if we’re supposed to request new mirrors for this beta

[cursive granite]

I'm farming them the way we will in live.

When the steps register, that is.

Also, apparently proofs of distance aren't exploitable with alts, as per Odie. The first character that opens the app gets the steps when they update.

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[fluid burrow]

I personally don't like a bonus about memory hunting on follower bond
it forced player using beo to maximize the bonus

[graceful granite]

Eh, 15% won't kill you unless it's for 100's of mnemonics, and if you're running that many another bonus for it is pretty sick regardless

[vital gorge]

Beo has to have something good hehe

[graceful granite]

Has anyone bought the lower tiers pets yet?

[vital gorge]

It's hard to get the things to buy it

I think

Well in sandbox must be easy

[fluid burrow]

MAXIMIZE

[long harness]

The T2 Wolpertinger is a heck of a solid choice as a follower

[vital gorge]

👀

[long harness]

Very unlikely a natural T2 would be able to afford it though.

[vital gorge]

You gonna have a new companion

[long harness]

Honestly, kinda, yeah

[vital gorge]

💪

[long harness]

Wolpertinger — ★★

With no buffs of any kind
9% Attack, 22% Heal, 9% Buff, 9% Spell

Attack
Ponder — T. Mag +
Sharpen — T. Att +
Bolt II
Bonded Strikes — Equivalent is Tricut?
Great Heal — Heal 250 HP

opinion dump incoming soon to a theatre near you

Ponder and Sharpen aren't that helpful in the early-game, but they're not entirely useless.
Bolt II and Bonded Strikes can be really nice for helping out kill stuff at times, but as with most early-game followers, isn't going to be something to rely on.
Great Heal, at a whopping 22% is absolutely bonkers. Even with the new AI, that's a fairly high likelihood of saving your butt in a pinch.

T2 Notes
Definitely the top choice of T2 followers. Really no matter what you're doing in T2.

T3 Notes
It's definitely a safe bet against most things, but given the low level, I don't see it doing much damage, and the temp buffs aren't that useful. Though this could certainly change if/when I get one on my T3 and test it out properly. But that'll take some time to obtain.
The healing is still super nice, so if you're looking to increase overall survivability, it's a good pick.
Wouldn't necessarily take it into a dungeon though. I'd rather take Mimic for the att/mag/def/res than just t.att/t.mag . The permanent buffs are worth more to me, given how close I can get to 1-shotting everything in my tier and below.
Absolutely still a great pick though, compared to other T3 followers.

T4 Notes
You're better off saving up for the Traveled Wolpertinger. Cause that thing is wayyyyyyy better

I'd almost argue that, despite the cost of it, the Traveled Wolpertinger [T4] is a little too good.
Bonded Strikes and Bolt III aren't an issue.
Magic Strikes and Magic Sword are a sweetened deal for Magic users, as now there's a really solid damaging follower for T4. An absolute must if you crave more damage.
Holy Light is alright. Though it having four magic based spells, one of which can heal you a bit, might be overkill.

The problem I really have is that it has Dispel, on top of all the other skills.
Don't get me wrong, I love not necessarily needing to worry nearly as much about stuff like Blight, Petrified, and Cursed as an early-game player.
But this is a little much.

There is the fact that there is another T4 follower with Dispel, Alfar, but Alfar has the balance of its attack chance being absurdly high, and not a whole lot other than Dispel going for it, in my opinion.
The only other followers that have Dispel are all T8+

If anyone would like to dispute/discuss anything here, please do so. Don't let me be the only voice on this. I beg you

[graceful granite]

Magic strikes/sword would still use att buffs, right? Depends on how stats compare, definitely seems like an upgrade to Alfar, wondering how it looks vs. Lotan at T5

Interested to see how the T2 one performs with a T3 char!

[long harness]

Magic Strikes/Sword say it uses Mag stat instead of Att, so I assume Mag is what you want.
But I very well could be wrong.

[graceful granite]

Huh, I could've sworn they keyed off the mag stat but still used att+ buffs, but I just tested it, must've been confusing it with something else

[potent surge]

Exact same issue here, I'm on 3.6.4 beta on Android but can't click on any of the new buildings

[long harness]

Currently locked into 1 finished aspect. But hey! I completed today's distance goal with 40min to spare.

Not sure how I feel about getting potentially softlocked in my aspect slots due to needing to find an area guardian that matches the aspect type.

[potent surge]

I can't comment on any of the guild content because I can't open it on beta 😂 but I'm excited for it, looking forward to getting some progress while I do my daily exercise

[long harness]

I am now locked into both Draconic Monster Aspect and Historic Monster Aspect.
But I did get a Goblin Lord out of the Great Monster Aspect, so that's pretty good.

[pure talon]

Aye, they use attacking Mag and opposing Def

[boreal pecan]

Is it possible that only first character of the login list is getting the steps and not the last character you logged in with?

[fresh forum]

Honestly, i do want to see him strap it to a dog, that phone is gona be dead 🤣

[white skiff]

How would people feel about runeshop aspects?

[boreal pecan]

Well is a way to support NF I guess

They seem easy to obtain as other stuff we can buy there

Keys, arena tokens and potions in runeshop is more of a "scam" (so easy to obtain that only a low low tier whale can think of spending money there) than p2w

I see aspects as easy to obtain tbh, unless guilds prices are lower than what they are going to be in live

[rustic owl]

there's a limited number of mobs in the game. Buying them would diminish the achievement.

[white skiff]

Only 690 ^

Think we will see the day when there's over 1000 pokemon monsters in Orna?

Has anyone tried to double up on steps? With an extra phone ?

[boreal pecan]

I would be happy if all my chars got steps for now, in beta is not happening to me

[jaunty robin]

Only works for one char #1121090025015218206 message

[white skiff]

What if you're logged into one character on two phones?

Keep one in your pocket to accumulate steps , while you play on another

[boreal pecan]

Ok so while orna is offline you accumulate steps and then they are given to the account is logged in when you open the app

[boreal pecan]

I guess then this might work

[swift mauve]

You’ll need to grab the update itself

[serene copper]

Looking forward to the kind of synergies that the vast selection of monsters will bring

Would spice things up even more for the manifest battle to get its own PvP

Also, don't think this is testable yet but anyone see if event monsters are also included?

[white skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/froakie-pokemon-fletchling-fight-gif-7272967

[cursive granite]

Any update on why steps aren't registering if the app is closed? Is this something we can fix on our end with phone settings / permissions?

[swift mauve]

if they're not counting when the app is closed, then there are no apps activating the step sensor, and therefore no steps logged.

solutions:
keep orna in background
keep any other step counting app open in background (samsung fit, etc count)

[vital gorge]

How do you gain a aspect?

[blissful trail]

🚶‍♂️

[vital gorge]

Ok

Sounds cool then

[long harness]

The daily walking objectives can give aspects.
More often though, you'll find them as clickables as you walk around.

You can also purchase the T1 Monster Aspect from the guild shop with Proofs of Distance.
Which you can get from the daily walking objectives, or as clickables while you walk around.

Basically

🚶‍♂️

[vital gorge]

Nice!

[cursive granite]

Steps not counting with orna in the background. Going to try downloading one of those fitness apps you mentioned and see if that helps.

Continuing this over in bug reports.

[pure talon]

WHen in doubt

🚶‍♂️

[static lark]

Google Fit working for me with the app close 👌

[cursive granite]

#1097574048294260878 message

Gotta have one app, either a step counting app or Orna, open in the background or else the phone pedometer isn't active.

[cold axle]

Has anyone been able to get steps to sync from apple health a app?

It seems that the beta client isn’t requesting permissions from health app for step count

Even though it lets you press the button in the app

[white skiff]

Walked around the block to pick up hamburger buns from the local grocery ~ got 15 Cort and 17 Gsouls ; 10 minutes for a Morri raid is dope

Glowing halo items

[swift mauve]

No health integration- pedometer only

[cold axle]

I thought that was the iPhone pedometer

[swift mauve]

negative. Pedometer is a sensor on your device

[remote kayak]

After some testing it looks like even if orna is running in the background, it eventually stops using the pedometer. Background steps were working ~3 hours ago. Just came back from a walk (with beta still running in the background) and no steps were counted.

Is this a phone thing where it puts the app to sleep after a certain amount of time?

[vital gorge]

It doesn't appear when you open the app again after some minutes?

[remote kayak]

It does not - I even took a super fast lap around the building and those steps counted with the app in the background and are part of the total

[swift mauve]

Samsung?

[remote kayak]

yeah, samsung S21

[pliant pecan]

PB is daily or weekly?

[vital gorge]

What's PB

[pliant pecan]

WB in english

PB is in spanish

[vital gorge]

And what that means?

[pliant pecan]

puntos de bienestar welbing points in english

[low bough]

So, do I need to open the app multiple times a day? I played beta in the morning a bit yesterday, went to work and did a bunch of walking at work, logged in this morning and still at the steps from where I was in morning.

Also kinda would suck of that's the case. Know I work at nights and can't check my phone till after work (which is after midnight my time), would all that walking never get counted if I can't check?

[swift mauve]

Should be the current discussion in #1097574048294260878

[white skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-no-heart-the-care-bears-what-shocked-gif-12029750

[neat jewel]

monster aspect and guild trial give me the pokemon vibe

gotta catch em all

[cold axle]

Are you on iOS?

How did you get it to count steps?

[gilded summit]

Yes. It’s counting while I have the app open. I’ll test with the app on background today to see if that part is working

[young belfry]

On Android, but step counting worked for me with the game closed which is cool

Though I feel having a 10k daily step goal is a bit high. It's good to get that many steps however most people don't. Especially in seasons of bad weather

[cold axle]

Buy a treadmill

[young belfry]

Ha, got one actually but the comment was more for the general person

[rustic owl]

It isn't a lot, actually. And it is the common number of daily steps for a healthy life. Unless you stay at home bedridden, it isn't a high goal.

[boreal pecan]

It requires a bit but not too much effort reaching 10k steps

Less of 1h walking, also in not mandatory

There are lower checkpoints

Anyway I love this walking thing, it might be the push I needed to get my ass off the couch

[white skiff]

I think it's about 8km

Depends on your stride size

[pliant pecan]

7, i think the average is 1500 steps per kilometer

[white skiff]

Tiny legs

https://tenor.com/view/baby-legs-legs-deadpool-deadpool2-wade-wilson-gif-17187818

[rustic owl]

It is indeed a good push to walk instead of taking a bus. And it's definitely a lot safer than going on a bicycle and playing.

Dog owners have an advantage here

[swift mauve]

An update should be available for Android now (iOS pending) that greatly increases background step counting accuracy

[remote kayak]

Dope, will test later this evening and compare against the fitbit

[low bough]

I think he mentioned it was your phones meter only and not a Fitbit at this point (unless that changed)

[onyx portal]

Hi, maybe a stupid question, do you need to walk with the app open?
Doesn't it get the walking info in the background, like in other games?

[blissful trail]

You can close it, it will get the walking info in the backgroumd

So long as you open the app once before you start walking

[onyx portal]

I walked today 13k steps and it didn't get any info in the background...

[blissful trail]

And open it again later it in the day when you're done

[blissful trail]

Did you open it first?

[onyx portal]

Okay so it's different form other games I'm used to

It would be nice, if in long term, it would connect with Google health connect or with apple health

[jaunty robin]

Thats coming

To put it in odies words " pedometer first, health apps later"

[swift mauve]

Health apps also introduce alt concerns

[bold frost]

Just curious, what kind of alt concerns do health apps create?

[gilded summit]

Couldn’t they sync to the first account opened? That way, you’re throwing your steps at your alts, you’re limiting your main acc

[swift mauve]

to highlight the concern:

right now (with pedometer), steps are attributed to the current character, as they happen

with a health app, the day's current step count is attributed to the character, thus any character active at some point today can gain the steps retroactively

definitely some ways around the concern, but for now, pedometer is the simplest

[bold frost]

Would it actually unbalance the travelers guild if alts and main both got credit for the days steps? Seems like once a day catching up with fit app might be easier on battery life.

I am no programmer though, just spitballing

[remote kayak]

giving every character the steps is essentially a way to raise ascensions for multiple characters at once with ~0 work. Orns would still need to be farmed, but materials would be significantly easier than nuking starlord 100 times per alt

[bold frost]

How many materials do you get for a 10,000 step day?

[remote kayak]

depends heavily on the material and its rarity/tier currently, but it isn't insignificant as they can be purchased multiple times once they are in the shop

I'm sure there are some niche cases where players do heavily maintain two characters as "mains", but for the most part players with multiple T10/T11 characters only have the others to serve as gauntlet entries or meme characters

[bold frost]

If only 1 main really matters then it feels like some extra mats on the alt aren't really a big deal

[remote kayak]

depends on how meta you want to be

being able to ascend a second T11 character without farming specific mats on them is only beneficial to a small group of try hards (myself included), but it would be quite powerful. I'd happily take an ascension 25 beo with me in horde boss dungeons to act as clean up crew. I just don't want to farm raids on that alt, so I don't. I'd absolutely use traveler's guild for it though

all that said, I do think there is a valid concern around the first character getting all of the steps. If I log out on an alt and they get the steps instead of my main, I will be sad. And I'm sure I'll do it a few times before I force the habit of always logging out on my main

[bold frost]

Is the headache of making sure that your main gets the steps greater then the harm letting mains and alts both get them?

[remote kayak]

depends on who you ask

I'm aggressively against anything that benefits alt play, so my answer would be yes. I'm sure lots of people disagree though

[bold frost]

I'd bet that less then 10% of players really utilize alts. Personally I think the best way is to make it easier for 90% of players and if the alts of the try hards get a small bonus then that's acceptable. Alts will always be less powerful then the mains anyhow

[remote kayak]

concern isn't so much about alt power, but using alts with markedly inflated power to push farming speeds and efficiency even higher for mains, which in turn inflates character power even further.

You're not wrong that this is an issue for a super small % of the playerbase though. Good news is Odie is usually pretty good at coming up with solutions

[bold frost]

I feel like the player base spends a disproportionate amount of energy worrying about the top players. If the top 100 rankings didn't exist I wonder how many players would be unaware of them since they have a miniscule impact on the playing of other players. When the class balance patch was done, NF didn't pay much attention to them, because they are such a small group that including then in the decision making process would throw off the data set and cause changes that would hurt the game as a whole. I think they should be treated that way for the majority of decisions.

[white skiff]

My app is not counting steps since update 😦

[fresh forum]

Whats the max speed that i can do for a step to count ingame?

I'd rather roll slowly on the street then to walk

[cold gorge]

Whatever activates your device's pedometer. It may be different device to device

[blissful trail]

This means that you actually have to have a walking motion going on. Even if driving at a walking persons pace, you will not activate the pedometer.

[cold gorge]

I missed the rolling inference to be driving - let's not drive and play folks. Be safe, and keep roads safe for our kids ❤️

[fresh forum]

I ry have no clue what a pedometer is or how it works

My idea was to bike at slow speeds with my phone on a mtb

[rustic owl]

Erm, not safe.

[long harness]

Your body makes a particular motion as you walk, and your phone knows what that motion feels like in your pocket, and fairly well in your hands. It keeps track of how often it feels that motion as a method of tracking how many steps you take.

Pedometer = Foot Gauge
It tracks your feet.

As John said, then deleted, Step Count, not distance. That would be a Odometer

Which Orna tracks via GPS and some math.

[rustic owl]

we have two systems now in Orna: meters for some quests and achievements (gps) and steps for the Traveler's

[sage river]

Basicly a pedometer uses multiple acelerations and decelerations based on oriantations of the device to detect movement. Which is why a car wont make a step, but running in place does. At least for my phone.

[slow garnet]

So we won't be able to cheese steps by using a bike or using a bus

[blissful trail]

A bike, probably

if you're actually pedaling, and have it in your pocket

Bus, not really.

[vital gorge]

Yeah that works, i made that, but it's better in closed roads, because of other cars can happen a accident

[fresh forum]

I have farm roads here where cars are not allowed, would be perfect for orna

[vital gorge]

Yeah that's perfect

I just don't know if the steps are gonna count with phone in hand

[long harness]

if it's bumpy, its possible, just likely to be inconsistent

[slow garnet]

the phone will suffer

[fresh forum]

Roads over here are still the same from WW 2, bumpy enough 😂

[low bough]

The biggest flaw I'm seeing still is the game needs to check before the daily rest your steps. I keep loosing tons

[glossy gust]

I'm not sure what happened but with the update that just came out none of my steps count anymore and the game seems to crash every time it tries to sync the steps

[slow garnet]

10 000 steps, it's equivalent to ~10 km

to do daily

[jaunty robin]

10k steps is ~8km for me

[long harness]

Legs definitely are hurting a bit from doing 3 days in a row of 10k steps (or more) a day.
But I've been almost entirely physically inactive the past two years.

Soon though, my legs will be strong. and I shall walk 100 miles. and I will walk 100 more

[white skiff]

Can we start a orna walk club?

https://tenor.com/view/take-a-walk-talk-gif-12266809

[vital gorge]

Getting all the players walking in group 💯

[white skiff]

Wear sunscreen pless

[vital gorge]

Need to buy one

[limber lynx]

Anyone else crashing after that last update? I can't get any steps to register.

[glossy gust]

Same commented it in Bug section

[rustic owl]

And stay hydrated! A healthy snack would also help stay on track.

Btw, steps go nicely with memory hunts

[long harness]

I mostly walk while its dark, so I don't really need to

[white skiff]

Wear high viz gear plz

https://tenor.com/view/jessnal-squat-gif-13787807

Shorts to stay cool and high viz to look cool

[long harness]

I don't think I actually own any high-vis stuff 🤔
Maybe its time to buy a high-vis vest or something

[white skiff]

They have these high viz reflective straps you can attach to a bag or hat

My wife had me slap 4 on my hike/bike bag for safety

[static lark]

Any estimated date for the official release of this update? 👀

[pliant pecan]

later this month? xD

[vital gorge]

Probably start of next month

Until the beta is good

Lol

[pliant pecan]

they told in a video at the beggining of the month that guilds will be later this month xD

[pure talon]

fun fact about game development: it always takes twice as long as you think it will

[hexed token]

And have twice as many bugs as reported in beta

[slow garnet]

Take time to dev
Take twice to check errors
Take thrice to debug

[swift mauve]

twice? thatd be a dream

[long harness]

Idea -> Planning -> Designing -> Planning -> Re-Designing -> Prototyping -> Re-planning -> Re-designing -> Re-planning -> Re-designing -> re-prototyping -> development -> re-planning

[cold gorge]

Where do we add in the multiple hours that Dangy chews devs ears off about all the feedback community has sent through?

[long harness]

That's during the pre-alpha, after the 3rd major development revision

oh wait, community feedback?
pre-beta to beta, during the 6th iteration of bug fixes

[cold gorge]

I swear I shrink Odie's actual work day down to 20 hours every day, because I take up 5 hours each day with back n fourth feedback.

(Odie works minimum 25 hours a day)

[vital gorge]

Odie is confirmed to be a super-human

[jaunty robin]

Dont let warchief see this 👽

[vital gorge]

Fr

He start with his ultimate ideas

[clever sapphire]

happening to me in and out of game now

[hot prism]

same here - no step counts... same with my friends on discord - doesnt work

[limber lynx]

Odie mentioned he would look at the issue starting today.

[bold frost]

Is travelers update close? Is it likely to roll out on the 1st or is date still TBD?

[blissful trail]

TBD

[swift mauve]

A beta update should now be available that corrects the background step issues. please let me know if it works for you all!

[humble yew]

Is now working, it even counted all the step i did all day before opening the app

But not for aspects somehow

Yep steps are working but not for aspects

[white skiff]

Seconded ^

[swift mauve]

Thanks! fix is rolling out right now

[pliant pecan]

Just now

[humble yew]

Yep, confirming aspect now work

[limber lynx]

Confirming that Steps are working again for me on Android Orna Beta

[patent prism]

Doesn’t seem to be working on the iOS at least for me it isn’t

[glossy gust]

Working for me now on Android 12 Moto edge Plus(2022)

[long harness]

Samsung Galaxy S8 (SM-G950U), Android 9 has step tracking working again 💪

[graceful hawk]

dont know if it already asked, but does this count cycling workout that synced from other app like strava ? or just walking with my phone ?

[long harness]

It has no syncing with other applications or devices

It is solely based on your phone's built-in pedometer

[graceful hawk]

hmm but if i bring my phone when im cycling, does that count as "step" ?

[long harness]

You can certainly try it out

[long harness]

Though my understanding of the mechanics of a typical pedometer say its unlikely to be particularly efficient or accurate

[patent prism]

Has anybody found a work around for iOS steps not working

[humble yew]

If you keep the phone in your trousers pocket it could register steps, the amount depends on how accurate is the sensor in your phone

[patent prism]

So far mine has not been counting my steps yesterday and it was in my pocket too

[graceful hawk]

Ah okay, I'll try it again after it release

[earnest dock]

I think I already saw my answer, but the steps accumulate only by having the app open and your phone on your person? Wearables like smart watches don't work?

[blissful trail]

No, they do not

Currently it is only via the phone's integrated pedometer

There might be room for further integration down the line, but not as of right now

[earnest dock]

They should hopefully be remedied. I have my watch on when I run. I don't want to have to have my clunky brick phone on me to get credit

I'm sure odie is looking into it

[blissful trail]

Do you not take your phone with you? How does your watch stay connected to your phone then?

[earnest dock]

Watches these days connect to cell networks

[blissful trail]

The app doesn't have to be open btw. It can just be closed, phone locked, sitting in your pocket.

[earnest dock]

No need for a phone

[blissful trail]

TIL

But yeah, as of right now, you would be unable to progress in traveller's guild with your setup

[earnest dock]

Also with Bluetooth watches, the watch will calculate your steps, then when you reconnect with your phone, those steps will be transferred and credited

[rustic owl]

Step aren't for steps only. When you walk with Orna you also get random special loot, visible to you only.

[swift mauve]

right. being without your device altogether doesn't really align with the goals of traveler's guild

[humble yew]

Oooh didn't know those could be seen by me only, I thought it was new visual for random chests/loots

[rustic owl]

Nah, circled items are Traveler's guild featured things brought by Wolpertingers (the NPC states that).

[earnest dock]

I get that, but a smart watch is an extension of your device. You aren't really going without it. Also with saying steps aren't for steps only, well if you are allowed to just keep the game running in the background while in your pocket, then it partially is, and what is the difference between that and a smart watch

You are then only using it to get steps

Only saying because I work a job where I can't keep my phone on me so having that ability would be helpful

[swift cosmos]

Hio! I have a somewhat strange observation. Several days in a row, back in 3.6.5 , I walked from the station to work (around 4 k steps) and collected various loot (resources, and even Proofs), and in the evening, on the exact same route was not a single pile. Today I checked, and the same thing - in the morning - there was loot, and nothing in the evening. Maybe it is tied to the territory or time?

[swift mauve]

what is the difference between that and a smart watch

a lot of the traveler's guilds perks (beyond results of steps) are in-game. these just aren't things you'll be interfacing with on your watch. that would be the main difference

but regardless of that - reminder: this is pedometer now, health app integration later

[earnest dock]

Appreciate it odie, hopefully something can get integrated. Thanks for all you do

[swift mauve]

there's a daily limit. you may have hit it earlier in the day

[swift cosmos]

Thank you. I already wanted to look for other routes

[long harness]

Would you be willing to share if it is a daily limit of how many appear or is it a limit on how many are taken by the player?

[swift cosmos]

We should count loot encounters per account!

[patent prism]

Make sense to me and I hope that you can add some sort of watch pedometer add on soon especially if I can check the stuff on my watch and see what I gotten so far when I’m not able to get on the phone while I’m at work or when I’m busy

[low bough]

Just did a huge run (15 flights of stairs!), opened app and had nothing s22 ultra

[swift mauve]

Latest update? Had you opened the app in the last 24 hours?

[stray slate]

With the latest beta version, yesterday I went for a walk with the app minimized and phone locked. When I came back home the steps were not rewarded, until I restarted the app. Have you tried restarting the game after moving? 🙂
I also have s22 ultra.

[low bough]

Sorry for the late response Odie, was at work :3 my version is 3.6.7b.

Didn't get any steps all day, just checked again. I've only got 36 steps to ever count on first day the beta for this happened.

[humble yew]

little question, what is the max level for the guild?

[fresh forum]

I tried to "cheat" my steps todays, however my "cheating" was unsucessful 😔

Got a total of 0steps for it

[vital gorge]

🥲

[vital gorge]

The phone was fixed on bike?

[fresh forum]

No, it was in my back pocket with the game on

At home it catches my steps while in my pocket, i figured it would do the same during my trip

[vital gorge]

Maybe cycling doesn't work for it

Sad, I can't go out and mark steps easily

[fresh forum]

This game might get me to start joging one day 😆

[vital gorge]

Same haha

[humble yew]

probably back pocket is too still on bike

[rustic owl]

This guild is made for walking (c)

[blissful trail]

A phone on a leg pocket while walking undergoes a swinging motion. A phone on a back pocket while biking just undergoes a mild bumping

[fresh forum]

I will duct tape it to my leg then 😆

[rustic owl]

Why would you duck tape?

[vital gorge]

It's hard to ride a bike with a phone on the leg pocket

[stray slate]

Just put it inside your socks 😎

[vital gorge]

[rustic owl]

Tapes don't usually fly and attack, why would you duck one? Anyway.

[limber lynx]

It would probably be safer to buy one of those armband phone holders and put it on your leg

They may actually sell calf/leg phone holders as well.

[long harness]

It would be safest to just, you know, walk

[low bough]

Oh hey restarting the app gave me some, not sure if it was all, didn't notices this till this morning xD (300 for 15 flights of stairs feel off, but that's likely the pedometer and not game)

[rustic owl]

I wonder if it could recognise stairs as zerk-steps and give triple credit😅

[thick nimbus]

Ahaha, I could see folks catching the elevator to the highest floor and descend stairs, repeat 🤣

[rustic owl]

still better than lying on the couch

[fresh forum]

Ever saw vids of ppl walking into light poles? 😆

[long harness]

I have, and I have

[limber lynx]

Oh, I mean safe for the phone. Rather than taping it to their leg 😂

[long harness]

fair point

[humble yew]

Has someone opened an hystoric monster aspect? I dunno what I need to codex in the beta

[jaunty robin]

You dont need to codex anything, you just need to have encountered the mob and be at the needed guild level

[humble yew]

Yeah i meant that with codex lol

So what mob and what level do I need for the hystoric aspect?

[long harness]

From what I have gathered from here and the Patreon discord, the only report I've found from someone was Guild Level 8/Tier 8, with a Northren Warlock

[humble yew]

So guild level equals max tier of the monster you could get?

[long harness]

It seems to be that way, though that may not be the entire story

For now, yes

[humble yew]

Okok thanks

Guilds will probably come out before I reach required level for that aspect

[long harness]

I had to skip out on a few days of 10k steps due to it not tracking for about 2 days, and now the air quality is an issue around me.
But in 4 days I got to Guild Level 4, not including the fact I'm locked into a Historic Aspect myself

I imagine getting to Lv. 10, for (potentially) full tier access, really won't take a huge amount of time

The lengthy part of the guild is making a good enough and high enough level team to be able to do trials even semi-consistently

[humble yew]

Have been trying to do trials but never got past floor 2 lol

[cold axle]

Can someone explain what getting the aspects does?

Is it still unknown?

[serene copper]

Short answer: Pokémon battles
Long answer: We get monsters from the many families (possibly even all monsters from the game) that we've seen in-game that we can battle with in Guild Trials to get proofs; from what was said/read here, the battles are seemingly endless and you'll only be as good as your own monsters would allow so synergy between all 3 Mons would be your best bet for the optimal proof income

That or just abuse immunities; the Fomorian bosses are probably also acquirable and the Nocturne ones (can only be damaged by pet/summons) are cracked due to their innate mechanic

[white skiff]

The trials aren't endless-

They have floors like dungeons

Still haven't beat one though to see rewards

V.2.6.8 asked me grant permission for Orna to track steps; I had already done this previously. Anyone else experience the same ?

[neat jewel]

2 questions:
is the monster obtainable from aspect random?
the monster obtainable depends if you have completed the codex?

[serene copper]

1.) Manifest obtainable probably depends on their family related to the aspect you've used/hatched (although admittedly, I'm not well-versed in what monster goes where; someone else would most likely explain it better)

2.) Someone here already mentioned that you only need to see them

[humble yew]

Pless shared this for what aspect has been found to give what

[neat jewel]

thanks, so if you use a monster in trials, it is used and you have to get another manifest again?

[humble yew]

the fight are basically horde dungeons, the tier is the same as the highest tiered monster in your party

[humble yew]

i have yet to complete one, but when losing you keep the monsters

for what i gathered you keep them, the more you find of the same monster raises the level of the monster

[serene copper]

Oh boy, here's what I feared the most: dupes😩

Or maybe not
Why go for an overpowered manifest when you can just statcheck everything with a lvl250 AL100 Green Slime

[humble yew]

good luck finding 250 green slimes

[long harness]

While I would normally worry about needing duplicates of manifests to make them stronger, it seems to just be a +1 Level for getting a duplucate, rather than needing say 10 duplicates for +1 Level.
I am very happy with that decision, primarily due to the sheer number of monsters and bosses in the game, and the "difficulty" of gaining duplicates

[neat jewel]

my concern is that people might be incentivise to not codex monster that are weaker

like green slime

[long harness]

It does, to some degree, but I believe thats partically why manifests are of seen monsters, rather than codex complete monsters.
if someone wants to avoid any and all "weak monsters" somehow, by all means, i would love to see their progress

[neat jewel]

Ahhh.. so manifest is limited by seen monster rather than completed codex?

If so, i think thats fine

[white skiff]

I was thinking that too -

But they'd have to avoid dungeons, bosses, and not partake in an event except for a couple key ones.

[limber lynx]

My first Historic was at Guild Level 8, and it was a Nothren Warlock

[cosmic surge]

So, if you fill all your 3 slots with historic ones, you're pretty fucked, until you get guild level 8.
Or is there a way to abandon them?

[swift mauve]

Historic are a T9 item, so you shouldn't be able to receive them even at T8

https://playorna.com/codex/items/historic-monster-aspect/

[blissful trail]

This is a side effect of getting 5000 of each item in beta

you get stuck in unrealistic situations :p

that being said, a lot of people will be t9+ when starting the traveller's guild when it launches. So depending on if the historic aspects spawn in the world based on your tier, or if they spawn based on the guild's level, then you might be able to softlock yourself

[cosmic surge]

My guild is 6. So I can't release them.

[swift mauve]

okay, we'll need a safe fallback for that case

thanks 🙂

[rustic owl]

Btw, does the TG start at tier one or lvl 100?

[swift mauve]

T1

[long harness]

Yeah, I was able to get more than a few from "Traveler's Intuition" as a T3

[rustic owl]

What is Traveler's intuition? The circled items?

[long harness]

yeah

I'm pretty sure that's what they were called. Do not remember where though

maybe I'm wrong

[fluid burrow]

i'm curious that would pyre in the aspect pool

[cosmic surge]

I got mine as a daily step reward for the 6k steps.

[limber lynx]

Three more Monster Aspects. Guild Level 11

[dark trail]

What happens if you have two phones, one in each pocket while you walk?

Does it count both phone steps?

[white skiff]

First app opened

[limber lynx]

Monster Aspects. , Guild now Lv12

[vital gorge]

Nice, new things

[white skiff]

I got C T H U L U

[long harness]

👀

[white skiff]

I have a good Stat debuff spread imho

[long harness]

Cthulhu, G.Yokai, Orichalcum as a team?

[white skiff]

Maybe ! Cthulu has some good moves !

Octoblast

[long harness]

And Orichalcum can hopefully provide some coverage to the G.Yokai for extra debuffs

I haven't seen anyone post about this, nor do I know how recently it was added to the beta, but.
The addition of Monster Aspects to the RuneShop, I feel, is good and should be added to the Live version.

Monster aspects aren't particularly difficult to obtain more of, if you're doing active walks (playing while walking), rather than passive walks (game is in the background whille walking).
Manifesting aspects only gives guild experience, but still require you to walk to open them, so effort is still required to get through them. Meaning you can't buy a bunch of them and burn through them that quickly.
Proofs of Distance are required to do the Guild Trials, so walking around is still absolutely necessary in order to attempt to get Proofs of Trials from the fights.
There's enough monsters and bosses that getting 6 aspects from the RuneShop doesn't really provide any particular advantage to those that don't.
I wouldn't even consider it a time-saver to those that actively go on walks to participate in the Traveler's Guild, as again, active walks will also likely provide a similar amount of aspects in a day or two, some decent luck is required though.
I see it as a way to invest in the game, and get a minor boost to the players that want to do the Traveler's Guild.

It should stay.

But I also want to hear other's thoughts

[white skiff]

I want them in runeshop

Why?

Sometimes I don't get aspects from distance milestones. I want to keep walking and travelling while manifesting.

I'd 100% buy some to fill up before a big hike or day of walking

The only thing I can see being an issue is countries where gambling is prohibited. Chances for actual manifests might need to be posted (based on codex entries, might be tricky to do)

I'd be pleasantly surprised if they were sold in packs of themed manifests (great, grotesque, meaty etc), instead of all together.

I am assuming runeshop manifests are in the beta for testing atm

[rustic owl]

Random would be a bit more 'fair', since themed might be bought for more obvious advantage of 'better' manifests, like rarer ones.

[white skiff]

I think allowing players to runeshop at the onset is a good idea for profit.

Everyone will be hype to try and it will push sales.

I want Odie and crew to be profitable and happy so we can keep orna forever.

[remote kayak]

My answer depends - do I need multiple of the same monster? or is it a get the monster once and never again type deal?

[white skiff]

Duplicate manifestations level up your monsters. Each duplicate = 1 level

[pliant pecan]

and remember that, even if you dont walk too much for getting those aditionals monster aspects, you can buy great ones from the anguish shop for 50 proofs

[white skiff]

Pricey

[remote kayak]

Meh. I can't say I love the idea of it being in the runeshop if we need multiple copies. It isn't really buying "player power" but it is sort of buying power for a super niche part of the game.

It would probably be super profitable though. I'd much rather something like this be in the runeshop than something like heart of change.

[white skiff]

This seems like pure PvE content to me. That's partly why I'm for the runeshop aspects.

If anything it will allow old/rich players to progress quickly

I'm not sure how late trial scaling is either ^ might be wrong

[limber lynx]

More Monster Aspects

[dark trail]

The cost of materials is ridiculous

[cold gorge]

Economy feedback would be useful - mind giving some workable numbers with some insight?

[long harness]

These have all just been the T1 "Monster Aspect", correct?

And on a T11 character, yes?

And has anyone manifested any Mimics yet?

[cold axle]

What am I doing wrong?

[humble yew]

You need to have seen the monsters to be able to manifest them

Do some horde non boss dungeons starting from tier 3, that's the fastest way I found

[limber lynx]

Yes, and yes. A T11 sandbox character with Travelers Guild Level 12

[swift cosmos]

I v got Mimic King ( Tier 4 boss) . I think, it was from Great Monster Aspect. Good skills, decent 3 hp

[limber lynx]

I suspect the mimics may come out of Ancient Aspects, but I'm not 100% certain.

[swift mauve]

yup, they are from Ancient

[limber lynx]

I think my next set, after 3 more Monster Aspects will be three Ancients.

[humble yew]

Draurg are also from ancient

[limber lynx]

Now Guild Level 13.

I think after I crack open three Ancients I'll do Great or Giant.

[limber lynx]

3 Ancients

[white skiff]

Sexy

Love it

[limber lynx]

Beta or Live? 👀

[white skiff]

Live

[limber lynx]

I'm still waiting for the update 🙃

[rustic owl]

I wonder if we would have weekly goal rewards

[pure talon]

like a weekly objective? 😆

[rustic owl]

The 40k scale, yes

[raw smelt]

steps in the app don't count half the time....

[swift mauve]

As step data is provided by your device's pedometer, there will be little we can do about inaccuracies.

however, i may be able to provide guidance if you provide device info, etc

[raw smelt]

Xiaomi 11T. During the check, the steps are not counted if the orna is not running, or has been in the background for too long. At the same time, I installed a less resource-intensive application that constantly counts steps in the background. but the values in the game are not updated after launch.

[swift mauve]

Does this workaround resolve it?

https://support.mypacer.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004919648-My-Mi-phone-stopped-counting-steps-What-should-I-do-

Replace Pacer with Orna

[raw smelt]

I'm worried about battery consumption allowing Orna autostart and no restrict battery usage, but i will try tomorrow

[swift mauve]

you don't have to do the Autostart part, we're only interested in whether the device's battery saver is the issue

[raw smelt]

Ok, i will try. For my better understanding, should the orna be run to count the steps?

[swift mauve]

steps will be counted as long as any step counting app (orna included) is running on the device

[raw smelt]

Ok, thanks. Will try.

[raw smelt]

Could you please recommend a step counting app that should definitely work and can be used to compare values in the game and in the application.

[raw smelt]

I select "no restriction" for orna in battery saver, and keep it running in background.... Orna just stopped counting when she wasn't open on the screen.

[patent prism]

It still a bit like that with the iOS device and I don’t know what I can do to get the steps besides using my android device to get it right through it might just be a bug or glitch maybe

[swift mauve]

On iOS, make sure the Background Refresh permission is enabled and don’t close the app, just keep it in the background

[patent prism]

It is enabled and it usually always is in the background when I’m not playing

[opal imp]

I extremely dislike that I cannot switch between explore and control because the traveler’s guild button takes that slot now

It makes it so when I am stuck on my commute and playing, it is incredibly tedious

Having the guild be its own button would I think be much better

[white skiff]

Long press

[pseudo flare]

whats the Weekly Objective good for? does it give any reward? ^^

[strange adder]

I also would like to know that, knowing would make me do the 10k steps I need tomorrow

[rustic owl]

about 3 full days guild exp + an aspect

[bold frost]

Are there further plans for anglers guild? It seems like it's just fishing with leveling and I'm not sure if the leveling actually does anything

[hexed token]

Would be nice to have info….

[bold frost]

Yeah, I'm just curious as to what the anglers guild does at all. Maybe a video on the new YouTube channel breaking down the new features of the guilds, an in depth explanation of the mechanics and a little bit of a tease of upcoming plans

[rustic owl]

It...exists

Like the flappy turul

It may develop later

[bold frost]

Aww, you can do a better tease then that 😝

Do the levels effect anything currently?

[white skiff]

Yes fishies

[pseudo flare]

Thx ^^

[young belfry]

I'd like to have a pond added at higher levels so you can fish from it like the fountains

[pseudo flare]

unsure if bug or feature, had 5 proofs of Distance bought a monster aspect in the travelers guild shop, went to the menu put it in one of those aspect slots aaaaaand its gone. all 3 slots are empty. did i get something wrong with how that works? and where do i find that bought monster aspect? ^^

[white skiff]

Click one of those circles

[pseudo flare]

I did i added the aspect and it disappeard.
I clicked the circle again and theres no aspect ^^

[white skiff]

What's your aspect and guild level ?

Some aspects require a high level guild to manifest

[limber lynx]

Those aspects should cause a warning message at the top of the screen.

[pseudo flare]

@white skiff Guild level was 3 or 4 at that point, the aspect was a bestial aspect if you mean that? ^^

[rustic owl]

Can we confirm that Manifests require a complete entry in Codex?

[thick nimbus]

Trials are super hard or am I unlucky with my manifests? 👀