Celestial Weapon Augment changes discussion.

[cobalt coral]

Prometheans rejoice, for you have gotten 2% more crit

your onehanded weapons give you 40% instead of 30%

[willow condor]

And didn't the bonus increase from 6 to 10?

Or was it always 10

[cobalt coral]

the bonus (post nerf) was always 10

..afaik

[willow condor]

Oh alright

Cool then, hopefully noone is mad now

Odie, next time go hard on the nerfs initially on purpose, and then soften them a bit later on so noone is mad

Unless that's what you just did

If that's the case wp

[dark vault]

Ooooh

[hidden vapor]

So non-celestial weapons confirmed for the trash bin?

[rich pine]

you still need one to DW

[hidden vapor]

oh right, mb

[worthy geyser]

They haven't left the trash bin since towers hit, other than a few staves for sequencer, and the questing/vd weapons

[hidden vapor]

aye, was hoping for further down grades, not backtracking.

[random tapir]

If you are mage class, you will be using Chimera staff, Kaladanda or A. imagination

For second weapon

[dark vault]

Arisen Fey

cries in pain

[worthy geyser]

afey macha could make a comeback as a second staff yes

[rich pine]

so now celestial scythe is 8*6(prom) + 6(weapon) + 5(base) = 59. + 20(wyrm) + 20(rs) = 99%...

[dark vault]

If I had one...

[rich pine]

look how they massacre my boy (ymir feathers)

[random tapir]

Are achlys souls dead?

[rich pine]

yes (at least for ultima)

[worthy geyser]

For ultima yes

[random tapir]

Oof

[cobalt coral]

if you want to use them for Sacreseal 3 though..

[dark vault]

Sasageyo

Never used

And will never be use

Ultima strikes 💔

[random tapir]

Thank you for staying with me

[random tapir]

They were dead before they can alive

Such a waste of a skill

[dark vault]

Lmaoooo

That's so sad

[stoic inlet]

What has happened? I'm lost

[rich pine]

prom is back to 8% chance

[dark vault]

Isn't back x)

[stoic inlet]

So 40% crit chance with 5 prom? (weapon only)

[rich pine]

back up to 8% from 6%, go learn english you baguette

[rich pine]

yes

you won't need any ashen now

[stoic inlet]

I will if I dual wield it with a Lost art, right? If I remember correctly

[rich pine]

yes

[stoic inlet]

40 on one + 20 on another one

[rich pine]

lost art is like 4 slots

with 4% base

[dark vault]

Le fromage

[stoic inlet]

I think I get 36% crit chance(?) from doing 0.6 on both

[rich pine]

but you better get a scythe than DW lost art

[dark vault]

I have 99% crit on my Ultima build

Missing 9/10 of my crit

[rich pine]

that's the curse of orna, I also have 99% RS with the ymir feather, when you miss you just want to throw the phone

how much crit damage is lost art ?

[dark vault]

A lot more when u are doing a HoF...

[dark vault]

Idk, never used

[stoic inlet]

More than x1.1 I believe

[urban moss]

I had 1.2x in mind but could be wrong

[dark vault]

I suggest to add 1.2x crit to Arcanic class x)

[random tapir]

It's around 1.2

[urban moss]

Im happy prom hands are back to 8%, but I do think devs pulled a fast one on us 🤣

[dark vault]

There's any celestial adorns who boost ward skill dmg?

[rich pine]

if lost art is 1.2, i'm not sure it's worth compared to 2H

[random tapir]

I was right about this

Though I didn't guess right with crit damage nerf

[dark vault]

Yiri is always hungry

[random tapir]

Without slots it isn't

4 is too less

[rich pine]

yes, that's the thing about lost art, x1.2 crit but poopoo stats even at GF

on the other hand celestial scythe is looking good imo

[random tapir]

I don't know about scythe

I think I will farm Celestial Bow once again for PvP

[urban moss]

I dont think so but you may want to double check the spreadsheet:

https://tinyurl.com/ornatowers

[dark vault]

My dream is -521 def

Sadly not

[random tapir]

No dex

[dark vault]

Realmsrikes don't care about dext

[random tapir]

Dorito does

[dark vault]

Is that the realm who looks like a little deity?

[rich pine]

will build the 2H bow to compare

[random tapir]

More gilga

[dark vault]

Idk, dext 👀

[random tapir]

@rich pine

[dark vault]

630 dext mmmmmmh

On a deity is perfect

[random tapir]

Yeah, it's a good number for a weapon

Now we need usable gear for Dorito with lots of dex

[rich pine]

I mean on beta, with 6 prom

[dark vault]

Rift rogue isn't enough?

You also have Hel

[random tapir]

It's best currently

[random tapir]

But dex stat is a bit less to take full advantage of the passive

[random tapir]

No ward

[random tapir]

Oh

[dark vault]

Who need ward

[rich pine]

humans

[dark vault]

Oh, true

[rich pine]

@random tapir wdyt about the greatbow on beta ? same crit chance, more attack, more crit damage

looks fine to me

[dark vault]

1.7x crit dmg?

[random tapir]

I don't think greatbow has a place for end game player

[rich pine]

1.77 yes

[dark vault]

Swash

[dark vault]

Oh still very cool

[random tapir]

One hand is better with Shield

[dark vault]

Trev charm

[dark vault]

You don't play swash right?

[rich pine]

for very endgame where you've a 200% fey weapon maybe, but for most players this is a non-random power house

[random tapir]

Nope lol

I use lost art

[ashen current]

Gilga Ursa likes his big'ole swash crit hammer

[rich pine]

yes but you don't have ward and without your 50AL you just dead

[dark vault]

Always Asc

Use Baldr gears

[random tapir]

I don't gunnr

[dark vault]

You don't use gunnr?

[rich pine]

can you screen your bow+lost art setup ? the gear not the stats sheet

[dark vault]

Double cast adorns for melee when 👀

[random tapir]

You can check my Amorri without Gunnr with this setup

[random tapir]

With this setup against any raids with magic spells

[rich pine]

imo, after the patch you may try greatbow with double a.trev

[dark vault]

Gunnr is fun

[random tapir]

I will try the beta first, if I ever got the chance to test the beta

With my character mirrored

[rich pine]

i mean, you already have the bow, it would only cost you gold no ?

oh you've mirror. then it's free test basically

[random tapir]

Yes and no

If I destroy the adorn it's free to augment

[rich pine]

cmon, at your level gold is free. and in beta every augment cost 1 shard

[random tapir]

Yeah I will use gold

My last adorn change cost me 30bil+ gold

[dark vault]

Is ok

Sell tower shard

[rich pine]

sounds like ornate adorns on GF weapon

[random tapir]

Fyc to fyc transfer

And removing from tarnished to arisen kings

[rich pine]

idk i'm poor, my superior adorns are basically free

[red dagger]

The crit chance was 6 post nerf, cut in half
Crit effectiveness was and I think still is 1,1x from 1,2x

Well all you can do with this extra 10% cc is drop 2 riftrogue pieces

Or like 3 pinions?

[rich pine]

celestial greatbow + 2 riftrogue is already 103% crit (if you chose to go 2H)

[red dagger]

that pinned message now is more worthless than a piece of dirt in a gold rush

[random tapir]

It's okay, you tried to help

[red dagger]

oh if only i had something better to do than update it

[silent scroll]

Also

Scythe gives more crit then greatbow

[red dagger]

right now it's negligable

40% from adorns alone let's you reach 100% crit without much hastle

[silent scroll]

Oh yea I just realized scyhte doesnt have a offhand ability

[sudden needle]

Some lesser augments with neligible crit chance (1-2) could have it buffed to give them some interest: themis arms, oceanus heart and selene arms

[low kindle]

for me an interesting modification would be make the same bonus as themis shoulders ( light damage) available in other titans for the other elements) ( for example each titan included themis giving +10% to the elements they are inmune)

[rich pine]

It wasn't possible due to ultima, now that it has been addressed it could happen (not saying it will but it could)

[green dagger]

i kinda have to say the rollback to 8% is a nice thing.

And Ultimastrikes beeing 2 turns now makes it viable without an ultimabuild.

But what about the mages? :o

oh wait ultima I is also 2 turns

[vague sentinel]

i would like to see a change for the hands of eos, one buff with 3 downsides which are affected with quality vs arms of themis, wich only has only 1 downside which isnt affected by quality..

[mellow ether]

I think so, that Hands of Prometheus mustn't be fixed. Because shifters have a lost art for example. And it would be similar to Celestial weapon with a Prom hands. At this time Celestial weapon is harder to recieve and heretic don't have weapon like lost art. So its unbalancing.

[dark vault]

Be a deity

[red dagger]

So a huge crit bonus that all classes can access shouldn't be fixed because ~3+ of those classes can also access smaller crit bonuses? Logik
But I get that's a joke (I hope that's a joke)

[dark vault]

Spike shield crit when

Was fun

[sudden granite]

-suggest Augments that CAUSE ailments or debuffs when slotted as additional effects, or provide resistance or IMMUNITY to specific status ailments (prometheus could provide burn immunity, Themis Blind, Selene Lull, Eos Bleeding, Oceanus drench)

Make Organs Great Again

Feet would cause poison or lull for sure m i rite

[cobalt coral]

I hate this sentence.