#henry-stickmin
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pretty sure that's the guy
@astral path it ties everything together right?
yes
ok i made it better
it does
ok
Yep
i understand now
well before CtM came out hes dead
yeah
Oh
In revenged, not "the betrayed
presumed dead x2

well theres also sad music and stuff when he dies in FtC
ok i made it better
That feeling when you cried in the last two
Me, Still going through the game without knowing the stuff in completing, knowing full on well I spoiled myself and it doens't matter to me hah
^when people asked what that weird dance i memorized was
so which ending is the most likely to be canon?
BROvert ops or Triple Threat are the ones i hope are in the main timeline
wait so all endings aren't cannon in CTM?
We may never know?
really hope the green haired dudes name is a reference to jack
oh man.. the doubt sound effect isn't the same..
yknow the toppat civil warfare ending does kinda remind me of the garden warfare box art
lol.
All endings are canon
^
^
ah ok
i know
OH SHIT ITS GADGET GABE
oh nevermind
CAN YOU TELL US YOUR NEWEST WORK COMING OUT?
that's what I thought
it was to answer gabriel's question
i'd love to think that that was intentional
imagine a world without the valiant hero ending
valiant hero broke me
me too
charles is my favorite character
if you couldnt tell already lmao
so
that hurt
alot
starting to think this is a far cry reference
but valiant hero made us cry
@velvet plinth that could be many games with a stealth mechanic
i didnt cry i dont think im human help
Die!
i don't think there's a genuine "bad" ending besides the betrayed in FtC but i definitely think some of the CtM endings are bittersweet at best
And the one time, the one time charles plan worked
🔫
he died minutes after..
i didnt cry, but i was bummed out by the MGS mission
you get to learn all the codenames and start to get attached to these characters
then they all just fuckin' die
same
YES
that's an intentional reference
@torpid epoch VH isn't bittersweet at best or worst
Jack stickguy
i didnt cry i dont think im human help
Lets see, do you have major sadness about the events in the world rn?
no no. ask if they cried when Charles died
i think i know why CtM is the finale game
because Charles died in the original timeline
That ending did give me some feels, even though I knew it was coming with the music and all
and we never met Ellie
i mean it is a pretty cliché and all but
Charles man,
why'd he die

Its a character we loved
i think vh qualifies because the mission is completed and charles made a meaningful sacrifice but its definitely the saddest ending i would say
how can you maximize the screen for the gam
he died becuase sad cool
why'd he die
@final sluice at least its not canon
Death is trivial until you give your characters names
all endings are canon
all endings are canon
Yup, all of them
damnit
it's just a question of alternate timelines and universes
^
so yeah how can you maximize the game?
how do i turn on beta
go to properties on steam
in steam
ok
i find it interesting how Jeffery and Thomas were the ones to stay loyal to Henry. They are my favorite Toppats
since ItA
ugh schaloob
alright thank you
Yo, do you still need verification if you are human?
i found it
imagine if you could save Charles
oh man, the scare doesn't keep going after the first time
charles has the best plans
That wasn't scary.
you can't post that on discord™️!
imagine if you could save Charles
Save Charles but sacrifice yourself
multiverse is kind of the reason why CtM is the finale
^
Me and the boys when we first got VH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWwb8S02f_c
I mean is this a fair one?
yeet
This ones mine
DLC Where we get Ellie's side of the story
DLC would be sick
i'd pay for DLC
DLC is not happening
we know
pretty much the scenarios set up during ItA and FtC have some contradictions, for example you can't get rescued by Charles in FtC if you're the Toppat leader
Ellie's FtC: time to meet henry
also I really, really doubt there'd be DLC
There is probably gonna be no DLC, but like, imagine if there were
ikr
Z0MG REAL CHARLES
Ellie's FtC: time to meet henry
She does say she busted herself out.
Fangames are the closest you'll get to DLC/sequels but they won't actually be part of the original series
yeah true
HOLY SHIT JESUS
also imagine sequels/spinoffs based off of the different endings from CtM
dATS ALOTTTTA BIOS
ikr
LONG*
not a composite game but just for 1 ending
anyways yes it is i the real charles
how long?
Someone tried atleast, just like Charles
like a management simulator for Stickmin Space Resort or a strategy game based of off Toppat Civil War
This is the greaaaaaatest plaaaaaaan
That could be coolio
whos charles
i didnt realise you had to complete endings from both FtC and ItA
gadget gabe can you make a device so its easier to crash my helicopter into things
that would be really helpful thx
whos charles
Helicopter Headset Dood
FROSTY'S ESCAPING
images you can hear
FROSTY'S ESCAPING
gunshots
Btw
For clarity's sake
"TCW doesn't have closure" is all i can think about as to why people dont like it
i don't dislike TCW, its the only ending that does anything with Ellie being abandoned
Those guys need to chill.
Oi, Tempest. Is thatthe almighty lord Revan as your pfp?
I guess you can say it's hard to tell what the events of the ending mean for any of the characters, but the path leading up to it was fun to play and that's really all that actually matters to me
if the reference to gw is intentional then its a pretty alright ending
i don't dislike TCW, its the only ending that does anything with Ellie being abandoned
Yeah, i was hoping for more Ellie coming back to haunt you endings
@velvet plinth yea
@long rampart a person of culture.Love KOTOR And TOR
Imagine if GSPI and GC gave you a scenario where Ellie is the leader of the Toppats instead of not Kilian Sven
what exactly happens to Dave after TCW?
if we get a DLC released
in the teaser?
it's probably Charles or Ellie's side
that might've been from the teaser
Is the new game a collection of all games or are there new ones?
Remote Toppat
collection of all the games + one new one
Is the new game a collection of all games or are there new ones?
@civic beacon its basically both
Ok
where is this man in CtM
What’s the new one called?
the new game is around the length of all the other henry games combined i believe
completing the mission
completing the mission
Kk thx
lol
so when will DLC happen
You cry because there will be no DLC for Stickmin's Collection.
I choose Cry
bruh
I chose yrc
cry is the worst
could we techincally edit the swf files
cry is definitely the best
no cry is
i choose cry tho
Wait... if we can edit the files... mods?
O_O
Henry Stickmin mods?
before i knew there were fullscreen betas
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i went into the game files
and was looking for an xml file
and found it
so i changed maximizable from false to true
ez
application.xml
images you can hear 2.0
IMA FIRIN MAH LAZER
Ima fir-
uhhhh
naw.
Should i leave Walkthrough on for 1 day or 2
wat
do some soundtrack links just not work
yes
but only for now
I think puff can only upload 6 ( ? ) songs to newgrounds a day
dont remember tho

where's this guy
he's in completing the mission
u probably suck at siege @velvet plinth
COME ON NOW BROTHERS
gg no re
leave noob
what game is that supposed to be
or what reference is that
star craft I think
CTM does a better job at making decisions matter than any telltale game
that's the usual
lol
COME ON NOW BROTHERS
@velvet plinth which one was that on again
EtP?
Fleeing
oh
CTM had me laughing my ass off for 3 hours
best one
YES
i find it interesting the teleporter works every third game
am i the only one who cant seem to get the stick the landings achievement
i cant get the ellie fall
is it bugged
let me try opening swf file
It will never open
oh shit right
i wonder if the toppat spacebase will be an among us map
A new adventure awaits...its gonna be one crazy of an adventure. ||i accidentally post it on #innersloth-fanworks oops.||
cinenecenicie"
Does anyone know where this guy is
epic
in the longshot

I think in the original, his eyes moved
i was forced to make another
Ty
||then fine. I make my own DLC||
fine, then*
Something tells me we are better off without DLC
^
"fine. ill do it myself"
Too many endings to try and tie into a cohesive narrative
mm
hal ife
I think this game is enough
i mean the crowbar worked in EtP
dlc will just be filler
Maybe it could be something like that Wonder book series, they are just focusing on characters while the main events happen.
Especially the amount of work put into it
YOUUUUUUUUUU DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
||well I’m planing to make my own story but idk how thats gonna turned out
||
I think puff and his team worked hard enouh
dlc will probs just give backstory to the main characters like charles or ellie
I CANT COMMAND MELODY
so basically filler
Tbh i kinda like that idea
Now people who didnt get to experience the game in the last decade can enjoy them with a fresh coat of paint
I would be find with a Charles and Ellie side game
WHAT THE
oop i gtg, have fun Charles fanboy club Henry Stickmin Game bois
Um
ooga chaca
This
@fickle moss take care, don't forget to default dancr
they were both correct
i lied
honestly kinda sad they didn't make it 1's instead of a this or that

Yes
No I wlll not
Turn your screen upside down lmao
nein
I gotta remember if this is the one
orn ot
Markiplier really loved the game
mark said he's not gonna 100% the game yet so people buy it for themselves
which i respect
when I did ItA i knew that the "dont press this button" was comign but it still got me
oh wait
FtC
all of the comments are about charles dying
yet all of the endings are canon
so technically he's still alive
he only died once
still alive in alternate timelines
I sort of have a stupid question but when do the Henry Stickmin games take place
if you base yourself on the trailer
i mean yeah but like what timeframe/date
actually no-
They take place in the years they came out
ItA takes place
2013 - 2020 i think
In 2013
@feral pawn yessir
Anyone else getting a white screen when trying to launch the game?
heres the thing though: with the ||multiverse correction|| it puts the events of EtP at around a year ago
Is there a way to turn down the audio ingame, also fullscreen?
that's what I was wondering
i cant stand windowed mode, so ill have to wait till there is a way for fullscreen to be enabled
does anyone know of a fix for the glitch that causes a white screen when launching the game
@velvet plinth there's no fullsceen
until there is a way for fullscreen, im not gonna be able to play
Why is that?
i just cant stand windowed mode
its really not a big deal, you dont even notice it when you get far into the game
i know, but im picky
cmon man dont miss out on a great game just bc its windowed
oh ok
until there is a way for fullscreen, im not gonna be able to play
@velvet plinth heres a tutorial of what i do
so go to game files
then go to meta-inf
then air
open application.xml on notepad
then look for
<maximizable>false</maximizable>
change that to
<maximizable>true</maximizable>
then save
okay.
then you can maximize it
its the closest to fullscreen
ill just use the fullscreen steam beta
ok
but if that has bugs then go right ahead to change it to <maximizable>true</maximizable>
guys SPOILER!
SPOILER
ZOMG
||SPOILER||
this is already a spoiler channel
SPOIELRS!!??!!11,?,§?,M
so you dont need to hide stuff
bk
OMG CHARLES WOULD NEVER SAY THAT
so sad
HE IS GOOD BOI
in the game charles has the most epic plans
well im gonna leave the chat so i dont get any spoilers
i was just tryna get fullscreen
in the game charles eats the spaghet
I can only talk about charles bc I'm known in this channel for being an ex-charles
ok cool
🍝 
i'd rather see charles in stealing the diamond
"Look out he has spoilers!"
You fool! We all have spoilers!

CREDITS MAKE ME STRONG
I bet it's pizza with pineapple on it

me when I see Charles as a choice 
Why would you say that charles would never eat that pizza
Guys, am I the only one who hasn't played/watched the game? oh no
Lalalalallalalal not reading
prepares default dance
z0mg

imagine there was a route that Charles isn't even a part of, but Charles is still an option so he rams into you at the speed of light
Will there ever be a console release of THSMC?
maybe never
"Who do you think you are? Charles?"
yeee
this needs to be an emoji
hey look, a penny!
animal sounds
click here to get an achievement
peace
adios
I wonder why that was changed?
i feel like they should change "notice that new timer?" from FtC because all the games have timers now
charles: * dies in a FAIL *
Everyone:
Charles: * dies but it's part of the ending *
Everyone:
falcon leap
Death
when charles ded
mark cries
Hey puff, how do I get my achievements on steam?
I got all of them but the don't work.
make this an emoji
:TheHell:
im glad mark didnt 100% yet so ppl could play it
I'm surprised you weren't able to get down there with that amazing portal technology. It's pretty strange how those portal guns work. I mean it combines the top scientific processes of our time. The portal gun contains a flux quantum generator which propells energy blasts with energy values of 4.23 GW with an average speed of approximately 25 m/s. This speed is the most optimal because it allows the energy to be conserved while still maintaining a speed that is appropriate. The external plastic casing on the portal gun is constructed of a high polymer fire proof carbonfiber. This prevents the intense energy of the portal gun from burning the hands of the user. The intense energy causes intense heat. Oh by the way if you want an achievement click here. I've heard that scientists still do now know what happens if two portals are placed on top of one another. The last time that was attempted... Well I'm sure you heard about that on the news.
Does anyone has the entire Jojo fail?
no
no
yes
THIS IS THE GREATEST PLAAAAAAAAAN
is typing
not my channel
K
aeiou
mark played it 
yo im trying to grab the key here but how do i get it to reappear
still not appearing :((
oof
have you grabbed the key?
In a different walktrough
Have you grabbed it before?
i think you aleardy did it.
what the fuuu
Yeah
okay hold on
Key won't appear if you have grabbed it
that's probably something so it's not annoying or just timelines intersecting
A sword
a sword
save the guy and he drops a flashdrive
Then you need to punch in some code later

Hi innersloth !
Since quarentine i've been fanecially little bit poor to say that, i love the henry stickman games but i can't afford your big project "The Henry Stickman collection".
I maybe don't play the game for a month or more.
Looks good the game, keep it up !
charles: dies
everyone:
So in Infiltrating the airship, for some reason I got a bug in where the electricity sound kept repeating, not sure what caused it but I had to close the game to fix it
escape the complex
@velvet plinth Complete every other game
just get one of the endings in other games, and you should be able to get to the Complete the Mission
You wont be able to do all the paths until you unlock all of the endings from FtC and ItA
Because i accidently stopped the loop and it's pointless to start it now, at the same time i started my previous one, i might as well look for this god forsaken last person. Any hints?
does anyone else have problems getting the game to start? every time i try i just get stuck on a white screen at launch. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling several times and it still isn't working
||”is this Australia?”||
wow
I feel like Charles deserved to die.-The text above Henry, obviously
||Comedy||
Bruh.
Stolen from Forte
He could be anyone of us...
He could be you...

It could even be- THIS IS THE GREATEST PLAAAAAN

Guess someone didn’t like the Valiant Hero ending.
I remember in Stealing The Diamond there was a secret panel during the Chaos Control scene but it is missing from the remaster. I'm pretty sure it did something but I can't remember.
You could say it was the greatest pl-
What? It was obvious! He was the Toppat traitor!
it truly was the greatest plan. o7
See, look. He'll grow a tophat annnnny second now
Annnnny second now
See look! Tophat! No wait, that's his headset
(Me desperately trying to look up the vid to continue the parody rn:
)
So, we still got problem
Big hat problem
Alright, who's ready to go find the Toppat
Right behind you
Screams of getting a fail choice
In the VH ending, is that supposed to be charles' headphones on his grave?
ye i think so
How did that survive the explosion?
Pretty sure they just put a new pair
Am I the only one who cried at that ending?
If you didnt cry or feel sad during VH are you human y or n
Just 2 clarify cause this seems confusing looking back on it, X means people who didnt cry during it are not human, and check means those heartless bastards who didnt care that Charles died are human.
Everyone after Charles' Death
Lmao
same
honestly, easter egg for when charels lives during that mission ;-;
what
at least he lives in most endings
I have a certain respect for Puff for adding an ending to the game where Charles would die because everyone seems to hate it
Easter Egg and he floats in space so he can finish the line and say more goodbyes
But it was one of my favourites
I have a certain respect for Puff for adding an ending to the game where Charles would die because everyone seems to hate it
We dont hate it, we absolutely love it for introducing le emotion. We are just saying how much we felt when Charles died. The ending is good, we can all agree. It's good because it made us sad.
I dont the the ending, its just very emotional ending
what exactly is the 'gay baby jail'
its not good, its emotional
"You could say it was the greatest pla- boom" -Charel's last words
And a nice change of pace since most of the other endings are pretty uplifting
why does this happen every time i speak in this place
what exactly is the 'gay baby jail'
It's a jail run by queer babies. I think
maybe if theres another game or dlc , they may add a ending where u go back in time and save him
check pins
i hope they do
noDLC
the revenge ending was honestly the most satisfying ending
oh
No other game is planned
DLC neither so
any comics though?
Nah
damn.
Henry Stickmin comics would be dope
rip
then
merch wont answer questions 
when the teleporter act works
Wait, merch? Headset merch? CAN I GET CHARLES' HEADSET!??!!??!
yeah
Can I stop everything real quick to ask for help with the donut want achievement please
Ok so you want to look for the donuts and click them
yes we need
merch
I want a plush of Charles' heli
this is the greatest plan merch
If you didnt cry or feel sad during VH are you human y or n
That was probably the darkest ending in the whole series, surpassing TB.
But I've clicked all the donuts to no avail
@fickle moss now complete with self distruction
That was probably the darkest ending in the whole series, surpassing TB.
Not really dark, but emotional. Puff pulled it off well
where would I report a bug for this game
what bug
Coffee Cup that says "The greatest plans require the greatest coffee"
in the bios
its honestly been a while since a game has made me cry
some people profiles dont show up and have the previous clicked guys name
the only thing that hit more emotionally hard than seeing the protagonist be betrayed and killed is seeing one of the most memorable supporting characters be killed and unable to escape from their impending doom
If you click the sun in VH, it should have lazer boi appear with funeral attire and cry a little. That would be cool
and descption
even how Charles said “I cant wait to go home” before being interrupted
whay
i mean before he got thrown out the escape pod by the toppat member
oh shit
dude that was brutal

he took 1 for the team
yeah maybe he used tele before ship explode
Yeah, and how his first thought was to throw you back in, not get in himself
he was the real hero
the only thing that hit more emotionally hard than seeing the protagonist be betrayed and killed is seeing one of the most memorable supporting characters be killed and unable to escape from their impending doom
I honestly did NOT see that ending coming when I first played that path.
bless charles’s spirit though, he stayed optimistic hoping there’d be an escape pod
Maybe he tried the default dance and that caused the stationto explode
the greatest plan to work.
laughs in watched markiplier play it for an hour
yes?

I mean, charles could've saved his own butt by just running in rather than throwing Henry in
Starting VH ending be like:
Oh i got a fail, one step closer to getting all fails!:
Damn bro this fail is long:
CHARLES!!! CHAAAAAARLES!!!!!!:
I need a webm of henry getting a tank chucked at him for default dancong
Charles be like: change the world. my final message
I mean, charles could've saved his own butt by just running in rather than throwing Henry in
More concerned with subduing the Toppat member & protecting Henry.
its so hard to right click on every single person you see in stuff like the infil airship power robot scene
and other scenes
Would a Charles and Henry ship be ok or nah
like the wall breakout
charles has the greatest plans
Would a Charles and Henry ship be ok or nahx2 i need to know
LOL
epic
But henry was distraught seeing charles die
lol
Charles seemed pretty happy in his final moments though. He saved his friend, did his life goal of ramming a vehicle into something else, and got to go to space.
henry when charles dies
sad
Im re watchin the animation, he surely does just want Henry to be safe instead of himself
thats what a sacrifice is
His first instinct is to hit the Toppat member off, and instead of following up on the member just yeets Henry to safety. What a bro
Anyone know the name of the sick beat in PBT/PD when Henry is riding on his scooter? Tried clicking in the credits, but it was "link rot".
Big sad
Got a quick question is it on mobile
no
No
Nope
no
Rip
it just came out today (I think) so of course it isnt on mobile
Sad
sad.
sad
press f to pay respect.
valliant typo
Imagine if Charles dropped his headset into the escape pod during the tussle, so it would be his headset on the tomb
Ive seen that ending
-$1000
You paid respect
It was worth it for respect to heli man
hint for achievement
Yo, i just realized
The fact that we all wished it to be a fail reminded me of a prominent theme in Henry
Its a game where you can be happy about your failures
We dont have to live with our mistakes. We can just repeatedly watch Stickmin die over and over with no punishment. We can be happy about Charles ramming into a building because we just come back in an instant. But here we dont get that, and get le sad
i dont think it's that deep lol
It's as deep as the Walls high security pit, fella
what if it's only 5 stories and just gives it an illusion
^
That was the LAST thing I was expecting
We all know that canon ending is Teleporter fail in Breaking the Bank, the rest is just Henry bored so he thinks of stories while waiting for someone to find him

There is totally no failure in my idea
i hope not
What animation did PuffballsUnited use to animate Henry Stickmin?
After 5 years Completing the Mission is here alongside a remaster of all the other Henry Stickman games! So many more endings to find! So many funny moments to enjoy!
Fleeing the Complex ► https://youtu.be/N9K2p54k9GA
Infiltrating the Airship ► https://youtu.be/kbFp2H7nYMk
Ste...
yo there are two cafeteria sections
@long dome adobe animate
160-something endings
A loose art style?
what
164 ending would be INSANE to animate in 3 yrs
@final sluice never mind
just thought about how the animation is done; layers with background and foregrounds?
nani
wait what
Well, will Henry Stickmin fade away in the future eventually since this is the last game; and no more production? Or...?
Mark's video on CTM is #2 on gaming
oh

Yeh I saw it and then went "Oh they made a new game with this? I gotta buy it now!"
But will Henry Stickmin fade away in the future eventually since this is the last game; and no more production ever again? Or...?
who knows, just up to Puffballs United
It might not be too popular, but the community prolly wont die
^
He said it was the last game
Yeah..
What i think will happen is the game is gonna stop recieving more in the series, but the community will still hold out for a while
Who knows
I haven't seen any fan animations or games for the series
The series concluded with the Collection. I'm part of a group of animators creating a 'tribute' for it, but other than that it's not ever going to continue again
fanart isn't that humongous, either
Well maybe in lieu of more games, people will feel more like they should make fan games or somethin
And thats where i came in too make a fan animation or seires
at least comparing to the entire internet
Then again, alot of small communites on the internet are small
||I I’m planing to make a seires with other characters||
I came in pretty late to being introduced, FtC was my first game
Unless your game is somehow so big it is internet culture, it will be hard to find
But I wish there were more games like Henry Stickmin out there
Aside telltale games
I came in pretty late to being introduced, FtC was my first game
Mine was prision, played them all in order, then found bank and played that
@tacit kindle|| OH YOYLECAKE THANK YOU||

Dont let us down, m8. But also remember that because this is a fan thing, feel free to do whatever you want with the canon
Still, if it dies, I'm thinking this song could be the tribute song: https://youtu.be/pEqnXNsAFL8
Provided to YouTube by Atlantic Records
One Last Time · Christopher Jackson · Lin-Manuel Miranda · Original Broadway Cast of Hamilton
Hamilton
℗ 2015 Hamilton Uptown, LLC under exclusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation
Producer: Ahmir Thompson
Conductor, Keyboard...
Or an animation with it
But also like have a balance so it isnt too far from the game
Henry being Washington and Hamilton and everyone else being the fans
Different lyrics to make it a fan song parody
||The series I’m working is culled The legends. Witch its base on other characters working as a team form different dimensions and yes it will have henry in it as the main 5. But not telling the rest
||
But don’t worry it will have ellie, charles & captain in it And also it will have the Tophat clan later in the story
Henry TF2 hat?
Sort of??????
The VH ending was a work of art. I don't play sad video games too often, so it was not something I'm familiar with
^
I haven't cried over a game since Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers, and I did with the VH ending
this is the first game in a long time to make me feel sad or laugh
There was a guy copy and pasting thsc is a scam in the steam discussions
@tacit kindle ||Does the game continue after Completing the Mission?||
@tacit kindle|| How do I know this isn't a scam or lie you're talking about||
how is it a scam if hes talking about
it
hes not trying
to sell you something
bruh
He can't sell it
||im a girl
||
Puff owns stickmin
who cares that you're a girl
oh
Burh..
WHY

why did you do this

WE GONNA BECOME THE NEXT CHARLES NOW, MAN!!
?
theres no new game
no this dude is saying hes making a new game
It's a joke about how Charles goes die. oh wait nvm sorry
Dude...
Ok
but that an online game... and it have update
Stick too the henry stuff here
theres no engine
k
its just animated on adobe air
damn what do yall think did he die or not
This channel in a nutshell:
Bio location
Achievement
Valiant hero ending
Yeah he didn't die
HE DID DIE
it's simply a joke about how it ruined his photos
and he screamed
he screamed "NOOOOO"
not "AHHHHH"
who died
the dude making the photos
oh charles
remember that tophat in infilitraying the airshp
when you reroute the power
hes in the photo room
He didn't die
No
was the light too bright
he was using red light
to develop his photos
it started getting birghter
of course that ruins photos
he screamed cause he died
too bright?
Ill betcha he lived
i think a better question is why were they using polaroids
we never saw him again
so
maybe he didnt die or did
That's a pretty big fall when they got shot out by the force gun.
ok but you get the point


