➤┃idv-strategy

[frank crane]

the way im playing with tartdemanzana

bear i got 5 wins so far are u proud

🥺

[stuck comet]

In a row? Yes I am proud

[frank crane]

no

[lone magnet]

@errant quest with faro lady

How do u chase her off chair?

Like idk sometimes the invis kicks in right away and sometimes doesn't

[errant quest]

Just like how you chase her normally
Its judt that u cant farm her

[frank crane]

trying to blink predict when my nightwatch just used warp

?

ok

im well

[lone magnet]

Yea cause I tried to farm a couple times and it just insta invised

[frank crane]

5 out of 26

[lone magnet]

Would chasing faro be more worth then tide kiter as bee?

[frank crane]

😔

[lone magnet]

Cause faro feels so strong and so bad at the same time as bee

[covert lichen]

why did this helena lowkey kite me 3 ciphers

[lone magnet]

Prob op area

And skill matters more then the character

[covert lichen]

ig

yeah for sure

lowkey skill issue on me fr

[errant quest]

Well u counter faro pretty hard tho

[spark ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845906676321091624/1493914069718007901/togif.gif

[covert lichen]

ok s badge i see u

[spark ridge]

Nuh uh I'm invisible on idv

[lone magnet]

Idk its just the rebound

Esp with support

Like first chase is easy but I don't see much room without getting insta farm

[errant quest]

If there is rebound with tideits still fine

[lone magnet]

Like I'll get early down

[errant quest]

And u dont really farm as bee either

[covert lichen]

me on zoom during covid with 5 hours of sleep, no breakfast

[lone magnet]

Alot of times they brute force rescue

Post nerf

So i get 2 and they try to bodyblock which normally I would insta farm without tide

But faro i can't do that and she rebounds

Cause idk faro lady team comps they don't run tide

[spark ridge]

I mean as long as you can end her cloak within 20 seconds and down her you should be fine

I lowkey have no idea how long it usually lasts cause as a witch main I just cheese her

Except when I can't do that then I sob

[lone magnet]

I think its 15

[spark ridge]

Yeye ur fiiiine then

So long as she doesn't get to like a god area

And kite you for another 20 seconds

[lone magnet]

Like first chase is easy

I just don't like rebound with support

[spark ridge]

Oh fkr sure I get what y mean lol

Witch first chase faro is easy

[lone magnet]

Every game I'm getting archer enchantress spam

[spark ridge]

It's getting her down the 2nd time that is tricky

[lone magnet]

[spark ridge]

Real

[lone magnet]

I'm thankful addiction exists cause if it didn't i would actually cry

Also idk why batters for some reason

Don't harass me on bee

Like they just play normal rescuer without really supporting

Only time I've seen it

[covert lichen]

i wanna spend for painters s tier

but boycott..

[lone magnet]

Don't get pressured

[covert lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/anothersdays-gif-8682649277694789514

i need peddlers A tier for my collection on god

[lone magnet]

A tier

?

U mean accessorie

[covert lichen]

her skin

i got her a accessory tier and s tier

and b tiers

in painters essence shes getting an A tier skin

[lone magnet]

I don't think she has an A tier

Unless u mean S tier

[covert lichen]

what

it was in livestream

its not even out

[lone magnet]

Ohh

[covert lichen]

its the next essence

[lone magnet]

I didn't know

Too bad i alrdy have her S

[errant quest]

U dont need to scare of bodyblock

U are qb

[lone magnet]

Its more so rebound kite with support

Esp with strong stunner

Like they'll stun and faro gets like half her invis back

From the distance

[covert lichen]

its so pretty

[stuck comet]

Naurrrrrr

[lone magnet]

Like against faro I'm winning at the start and then they rebound once and I'm slightly draw position

[errant quest]

The reason that qb is so strong

Is that she can afford to do dmg to anyone and catch up

[lone magnet]

I guess but I'm always slightly before max pres on first rescue

[errant quest]

U can hit the harasser and use the transform for catch up

[lone magnet]

First pres alot of the time isn't enough

Esp on certain maps

[errant quest]

Or suck 2x gauge when surv bodyblock

[covert lichen]

is faro meta?

[lone magnet]

Idk only faro i really had that issue with

[summer jackal]

Dmg the harasser and use max pres?

[lone magnet]

Lowkey

I didn't think of that

I always hit max pres

[summer jackal]

[errant quest]

[lone magnet]

I swear I just spam first and max pres when I get them

Lowkey if I see faro I'm doing that now

Ill update if it works

[errant quest]

U can do with all kiter

Tbf its not a big issue of faro its just harasser in general

[lone magnet]

Honestly my only somewhat struggle

Is mid game I'm not too sure the game plan

[errant quest]

Have u played opera

[lone magnet]

Not much

[errant quest]

Its kinda the same mindset

But qb is faster than her(but energy ljmited)

[lone magnet]

The main issue is like I commit to someone they all heal

And accelerated decoding catches up too much

[errant quest]

Yeah its same issue as opera

U hit them and target change so you want to stack up energy

[lone magnet]

Esp since I've been getting 4 stacks they do it really optimally

I've been just doing chip on them

[errant quest]

Otheriwse if u want a down then u likely to target change later anyways

[lone magnet]

Then try to commit to someone

So none can rescue

But that's like very situational

Most of the time tho if they don't heal i just insta down the 2nd surv

And just tp to cipher

[foggy hull]

I curious what’s a good way to get around hunters in duo who double team

I know it depends on hunters yeah I struggling

[rapid bay]

ball

ball to somewhere with teammates to help you

[foggy hull]

true true

how do u know i use florian

XD

[rapid bay]

im not talking about florian ball lol

you get a lot of points if you get double teamed

especially at the beginning

buy a ball and zoom to a good spot

[foggy hull]

OHHHH sorry I was so confused and scared I got secretly popular from being a crazy b

But these are good ideas I’ll try to use

[silk ingot]

Bro how do you not get tunneled

[frank crane]

you have to tunnel in this game to win

[silk ingot]

Smh

Is there no perks that let you wiggle out immediately after getting unhooked

[frank crane]

no

you can play embalmer and unchair yourself

[silk ingot]

Is that even worth it at that point when you could use the jet pack guy that gains a lot of distance

[obtuse galleon]

the point of embalmer is that you dont need to send someone to rescue him, saving alot of decoding time

[rapid bay]

decisive strike?

its been so long i dont even remember the trigger conditions anymore

it used to have no condition and you just need to succeed the qte

you can assume that 99% of stuff from the halloween chapter beyond are not in idv

[frank crane]

the jet pack guy is in the meta

[lone magnet]

I mean even that gimmick isn't tbat good anyway

He just gets downed too fast

He kinda needs an ada like buff

Hope they give him that

[obtuse galleon]

i didnt say it was good, im just saying thats the point of his kit not to gain distance

[inner python]

Maybe they can just buff his coffin a little

[lone magnet]

I think coffin is fine but he has no chase ability

And if u don't chase him he's kinda useless

Very few situations u can actually get a coffin play on ur teammaye

[inner python]

Maybe if u dont have to see teammates to embalm them

Except duos though

[onyx fractal]

They need to revert ada buff

wdym

[bright marten]

bruh these survivor wait for me to down before pop the cipher

[onyx fractal]

That’s

Always the case

[bright marten]

I got a distance already and tell them to… they still didnt pop

[bright marten]

but I'm Matthias

[onyx fractal]

You have to say

“Focus on decoding”

[bright marten]

I did

;-;

[onyx fractal]

To force pop

[bright marten]

twice

[onyx fractal]

and maybe they don’t know that I guess

Or they don’t trust you

[bright marten]

I think they dont know

[onyx fractal]

Or they were not on the gate yet

[bright marten]

hmm

could be could be

[bright marten]

enough to get a tie which is nice

[silk ingot]

Yeah basically after being unhooked, for the next 60 seconds if the killer downs and picks you up, you’ll get a skill check and you just stun the killer for 4 or 5 seconds

It’s pretty strong if you’re getting tunneled

[bright marten]

Can rank 3 play with rank 5 I’m curious

If we got rank 4 in middle

Like

Elk Mammoth and Griffin

[lucid sequoia]

what tier are u?

[lucid sequoia]

i don't think so

if the tiers don't touch then u cant touch rank

[outer bronze]

Nono

It'll stop you

If you're Griffin, you can play with mammoth and Ali
But if someone in the team is Ali and the other Mammoth, even if you're here it's going to stop you

[spark ridge]

Oh heavens no the last thing I want in life is someone who can deny me injuries AND kite

😭

I think emblamer is fine for what his role is (tie demon) but he's absolutely not a win character cause of it

[brisk dove]

bad design woooo

we love value off dying

[spark ridge]

Perchance...

[quaint gull]

idv is a game where you can spam literally all of the maps pallet with a slow pallet breaking hunter and still win

even if they bring full confined like hello

[outer bronze]

Yes and no, pallet spamming isn't really a thing unless you're playing against a wheel or first pres reptil etc... things like that
Considering an idv game is significantly shorter than DBD for example, it's not worth "saving" pallets since if you do a good early kite
other people won't necessarily need it if they're aware of the map ressources

[quaint gull]

what do you mean? why would you even drop a pallet against wheel in his wheel form

im talking about hunters who can only hit with m1s

but im talking in the hunters viewpoint because if you kited 5 ciphers with pallet spamming none of the survivors will say a thing

( im just salty i played opera singer and got a super early hit but because it was an enchantress she threw down every single pallet in her path that forces me to break it

[outer bronze]

I explained that "pallet spam" isn't a thing imo, and gave an example of bad usage of pallet spam. I didn't mention that you said otherwise
Opera biggest counter is pallets and windows, people will unfortunately spam it to force you off the shadow form and break your momentum

They know it's your issue i'm afraid

Opera is hard because you'll have to mindgame a lot and play around with your shadow leap

good luck 🫡

[quaint gull]

playing her on a map with long walls kills me ( leos memory ) because imo if the survivors just run from pallet to pallet opera cant do anything but break them

[thick breach]

My little brother playing for the first time
FYI: I teached him how to counter naiad and using ganji and he plays DBD so he knows what to do with the pallets
And give him some Ideas for ganji

[inner python]

I would try and lead them to crappy pallets that way it's easier to mind game by just using your speed to go from side to side of the pallet

Cut off their path

[quaint gull]

noted

[spark ridge]

Yeah part of hunting is zoning tbh

If you can force survivors into bad areas that's always ideal

Obviously that's not always possible but putting yourself into positions that allow that is always beneficial

And knowing which pallets are and aren't good

Cause some pallets are lowkey always free hits

While others are god pallets and need to be dealt with

On an unrelated note I forgot how much i loved Wu's big ah hitbox

So much better than Yidhra's 😭

[bright marten]

Ah okay clearly explained

Thank you

[onyx fractal]

Leo’s is one of her best maps though

[quaint gull]

not for me 😭 leos has too many long walls and good pallets and i dont know how to zone survs

leos is nice to dash around because it has so many obstacles

[onyx fractal]

What they said is true, zoning is an important skill and + you need good reflexes that are only gained thru experience

[spark ridge]

Also take your ping into account

not sure what you usually get BUT

[onyx fractal]

Because spamming pallet is a bad survivor trait and only you building good reflex will counteract bad survivors

[quaint gull]

im usually at 25ms im in Asia

[spark ridge]

big part of opera is having good ms to always get hits on your step backs

[onyx fractal]

Brother

[spark ridge]

Oh hell yeah youre literally peak ping

[onyx fractal]

Lower than me damn😭

[spark ridge]

zero excuse

😭

[rapid bay]

peak performance

[spark ridge]

Just play more and you'll get the hang of it!

[quaint gull]

😭😭😭 low ping was the only reason i ever tried opera

[onyx fractal]

Yeah

[quaint gull]

okay thank you everyone love you all

[onyx fractal]

Experience really helps

[spark ridge]

^^^^

[onyx fractal]

You’re right, low ms = skill on opera

[spark ridge]

Pretty sure Opera is mostly experience

[onyx fractal]

But knowing how to shadow dance is really the trick

[spark ridge]

also try watching some pro operas

cause ik opera has A LOT of routes that are considered viable

[quaint gull]

ohhh okay

[spark ridge]

like lakeside boat chase

etc

Learn those and you're life shall be way easier

[onyx fractal]

You can memorize shadows fairly quickly, I saw one Sabertooth who doesn’t play opera try her on Leo’s with 10ms, goddamn, I have more games but because of my 40ms, I’m pretty sure he can do more 4ks than me

It’s all just ms for her

40 doesn’t cut it

[spark ridge]

Yeah I've also got shadows down I just don't play her cause 80-100 ms

😔

[quaint gull]

i didnt know there were routes i only try to dash the longest chain without breaking

[spark ridge]

That works too

especially if you're up against survs who probably don't know good routing

[onyx fractal]

For Lakeside, for example, you try to chase around big boat and get full presence after going to other places

And full presence allows you to chase much better in other areas

[quaint gull]

ohh okay

[onyx fractal]

@quaint gull this

This is why you need reflex

Unless bad survivor will bamboozle you

You’re SEA, I suppose?

[quaint gull]

yup

[onyx fractal]

It should be easier

To play then

SEA is quite easy unless you go to peak tier early season

[vernal vale]

I'm ngl to be a good opera it needs to be natrual

It shouldn't be a route

There are routes but you need to be able to adapt if it calls for it

The backflip nerf also did nothing if you're good with it they still can't counter it

[onyx fractal]

Well, Dx’s Opera got selected as Top5 hunter in COA and he just went big boat route

[spark ridge]

Oh for sure but most opera games in ranked tend to be a repeated dance from what I've seen

So like always chasing boat

obviously a good opera has to be flexible

but the general rule is still there

[onyx fractal]

Of course to, not mention the obvious

[vernal vale]

Like people think oh the animation is slower and whatnot so they can counter it but really it's still not counter le cus you're always looking to keep it for locked animation situations anyway

[spark ridge]

The Demon King was back for that Opera lakeside match 😭

literally dominated

[onyx fractal]

It was great, but they would’ve lost if zz9 didn’t lag so I guess thank you Netease

[vernal vale]

I have a feeling EU has a better server ping than NA but I'm not sure cus it's so unstable but I can really feel it when it's low

[spark ridge]

Yeah...

[vernal vale]

Like 17 ms is really really low

You feel it when you play opera you're just dashing before you even reach the next shadow

[spark ridge]

Dont u have to be right in NYC for 17 ms

[vernal vale]

I had 17ms on eu yestarday

But this was also the same EU server ping that day

[spark ridge]

What in the dark sorcery

ainnoway

[vernal vale]

Yeah so eu has potential to have really low ping

It's just when the server tweaks out

[onyx fractal]

yk

they should just bring back

Korea server

[spark ridge]

Most I've gotten in a game is like 50 ms on surv and im west coast USA

[onyx fractal]

or smth

[spark ridge]

on hunter the lowest I get is like 70

[onyx fractal]

Why do I have 40ms in Korea

[vernal vale]

They should just bring back eu priority cus it's still 1 NA> 4 Eu

[spark ridge]

All of ASIA other than CN share the same server right?

[vernal vale]

Like especially during this session like bro nobody cares that you're lagging bro just sleep if its that bad for you

[onyx fractal]

No, we have SEA, HKMT and JP

I get different ms when I meet HKMT and JP

Sea is always entirely separate with the exception of Philippines

For example

when I’m queuing

I’m only queuing for JP(priority)>HKMT

[spark ridge]

ic ic

[onyx fractal]

SEA is SEA priority so

Pretty convenient

I’m pretty sure they should be able to do it in NA EU

[spark ridge]

NAEU might just be too small for that lol

ik EU especially if they prioritized with other EU players

[prisma latch]

why am i in sea but mostly play with jp

[onyx fractal]

Are you in Philippines

[prisma latch]

yeah

[onyx fractal]

And that explains it

For some reason

Philippines priority is JP

Just like Mongolia

Maybe because of the internet provider

[prisma latch]

fun

[bright marten]

I also got many JP and its makes me so lag on rank

I’m in SEA though

Yesterday I got 2 draw because of 100-200 ping

ms

Normally it should be 10ms

Sometimes 40-50 which acceptable maybe

But that 19X ms made my fog blades really random direction

[brisk dove]

i mean

lakeside chases kinda suck

either you go small boat (3 god windows 2 god pallets) shack (forced confined game) or you chase whatever rescuer pick

so games will always be boat or rescuer chase

and all the good shack players rotate to small boat anyway so

3 god windows 2 pallets have fun

[bright stream]

I can finally rank again soon

It’s been a week

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-geeking-crash-out-skibidi-gif-12945652546190045855

@raw crater where Ju go 😔

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[junior mason]

gone again??

[bright stream]

AGAIN??

https://tenor.com/view/ohno-gif-13555747940236673731

[onyx fractal]

@bright stream I apologize

Because I didn’t notice the audio

To be like that

[bright stream]

It’s okay Memo 😭

[onyx fractal]

There is no original Devil Trigger I guess

[willow wren]

I just lived through war 😭😭😭

14min of back and forth

[onyx fractal]

Oh nah

Despite that throwing walk

She actually did great huh

[vernal vale]

Who was throwing

[bright stream]

The mad eyes’ name 😭

[willow wren]

Its some smurf lvl 19 lmao

But God damn it was A MATCH

Finally randoms that everyone was competent and knew how to deal with Mad Eyes

No one got random chips

We've been playing a slow game

Lots of healing, harrasing, changing cyphers

[bright stream]

Not barmaid getting slugged out 😭

[willow wren]

Yeah well we didn't allow him to chair hehe

Pros did a great job

The fact that Barmaid was able to use her one drink and only then die helped a lot

After my first tide rescue she also forced the blink out

I'm glad i managed to bodyblock

But yeah... 14min hell to get a tie bro

We got only 9 or even 8 points, Mad Eyes got even less🥀

[brisk dove]

theres a reason i ban mad eyes photorapher

[willow wren]

Not the Joseph ban 🥀

But reasonable

[bright stream]

Snake da goat

[willow wren]

Heehee I wish I always did so well tho

I got tsed with my one molecule touching the chair next game 🥀🥀🥀

It was sad as hell

[spark ridge]

I kept getting the same two teams who were banning mine and the 1st DW this session

Downsides of too many mains on

Cooked them on a random ah clerk pick though

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tongue-shaking-gif-1214800249503457963

[eternal swan]

Hunter mains..

How do u genuinely stop panicking when u get 5 cipher kite

Cuz like one time I got harassed badly as hullabaloo i panicked and damn i got 3 pallet stuns and they all escaped..

[rapid bay]

takes some time

you just accept that the odds are against you so you either take the L or attempt some crazy strategy

[sick pagoda]

Guys how many match do i have to play in a day, so that i will be done with this season on time

[sick pagoda]

Hello fellow youth association of improvement enthusiast

[summer jackal]

just accept that ur losing so u dont panic anm

and try to fight for tie

[left cloud]

a few days ago i got an early down and stuffed rescue and lost lmao 💀

i lost the dead on chair person so

[eternal swan]

No cause i mostly chase those who's dead chair and sometimes pass by those who is doing gate

My match was forward,lanternist, embalmer and prisoner and i know im doomed and i don't have the switch trait to use excitement/patroller against forward..

[bright stream]

I’d suggest playing more or do duos to get used to it

https://tenor.com/view/gato-pato-cuticuti-lucas-cini-lobotomia-gif-3686397967126460950

Don’t be too hard on yourself when losing too 😔

[eternal swan]

No cause i lowkey hate harassers since hullabaloo takes 3 hit to down

[bright stream]

They’re everywhere

We gotta thug it out

[eternal swan]

Petition to basement all harassers

No like revert the nerfs on hullabaloo/j

I feel emo losing while using hullabaloo it's just embarassing

[bright stream]

Lets put them all in the basement

[bright stream]

Me with BQ too 😭

[eternal swan]

These harassers r just pure evil

[bright stream]

They da real hunters

https://tenor.com/view/repost-repost-if-chilling-chilling-cat-repost-if-chilling-cat-gif-11075040330977237050

[spark ridge]

5 cipher kite is almost always ggs unless omega surv throw

3 cipher kite as hulla you reaaally need a double down to tie atp

[eternal swan]

That's a pain

I always get cipher rush as hulla

Most of my matches r tie unless I get basement

[spark ridge]

I mean yeah that is hulla nowadays

He mostly wins off double downs and if you don't get those its a likely tie

[eternal swan]

That clone cd was awful

[spark ridge]

Yeah you need to make sure you're accurate with them otherwise its over

[eternal swan]

And most of my wins r like from survivors who doesn't pay attention to their colors and get ts at 5 ciphers

[spark ridge]

💀

Yeah hulla is more of a tie character nowadays with win potential if the camp goes well

[eternal swan]

The way he became a win hunter to tie after nerfs this is frying me

[spark ridge]

Happens to plenty of hunters

[eternal swan]

Did cueist or ivy got even nerf

Like

I heard ivy got some nerfs but she's more likely a win hunter

[ivory kayak]

Cueist is about to get nerfed

[eternal swan]

Will it be finally a tie hunter🙏🏼

[spark ridge]

Cueist either got nerfed or is gonna be nerfed

Pretty sure ivy already got her nerfs

[ivory kayak]

The qna implicates a nerf

[eternal swan]

Cuz i noticed in low rank when i was playing surv my randoms always ban cueist/ivy/goatman

[spark ridge]

Oh more?

Damn

[ivory kayak]

Yes

So is queen bee too

[spark ridge]

Cueist ivy goatman are the forefront meta hunters rn

Qb and opera as well

Though ivy is more a tie character now

[eternal swan]

I don't feel QB as a high hunter honestly 😭, i didn't feel the bans coming when she got released

[onyx fractal]

Actually

yk what

I’ve been one tricking Hulla early season in JP server

[eternal swan]

I wonder how will dentist do

[onyx fractal]

Hulla is so much better than that

I used to believe Hulla was weak

[ivory kayak]

Instant ban if hes staying in his current state

[eternal swan]

Oh..

[onyx fractal]

No, he might even be stronger than Goatman against some matchups

His chase is no joke

Since I started one tricking, I have 100% wr

As hulla

[eternal swan]

What build do u even use on hullabaloo bc i put max pallet😭

[onyx fractal]

3 cipher kites, no nothing

[spark ridge]

Oh for sure just seeing COA ik Hulla is still hella strong

[ivory kayak]

Inso detention

[onyx fractal]

3 cipher kites and still 4k

[onyx fractal]

I’ll give you 2 builds I’m using

[spark ridge]

Inso detention or inso trump

[summer jackal]

If u get 3 ciphe kited as hulla ur cooked

[onyx fractal]

These 2 builds are doing me wonders

[eternal swan]

I use both it depends, I use Trump if there's harassers and inso when it's not too many

[onyx fractal]

I got almost 3 cipher kited against S1 Painter and S6 Novelist, I almost won though

[summer jackal]

what did u do then

[onyx fractal]

I chaired Painter too close to gate end game...

BUT that doesn't matter

[onyx fractal]

I lacked experience

[summer jackal]

wdym

[eternal swan]

I usually use this

😭

[onyx fractal]

I made a mistake that ruined my win game

[midnight anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5273247718297236208

[eternal swan]

I use these two

[spark ridge]

Oooooo ur gonna want inso

😭

Inso is hullas bread and butter

[eternal swan]

Idk even know since these people r pallet spamming everywhere

[spark ridge]

@onyx fractal who do you usually ban as hulla

Might play him more when the witch banners are online

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845906676321091624/1493914069718007901/togif.gif

[eternal swan]

Isn't his main opp is doctor

[midnight anvil]

Hulla is such a difficult character to control till you like keep practicing non stop

[eternal swan]

[onyx fractal]

The inso tc is for small maps, it doesn’t need adjustments, only adjustment you want is less rage more wanted order, and inso det for big maps, you bring warp, that one you can change around

[spark ridge]

Erm nah hulla kills doc for free lol

Especially if they camp pallets to heal

Free double color

It's usually 3 hits but not too hard

[eternal swan]

Oh...I sometimes struggle against doctors since they mostly pallet spam

[onyx fractal]

I ban Doctor Forward Mech, Only forward mech are good bans, Doctor you’re right, she’s super weak vs Hulla, but I also main Goatman and Cueist so it’s self explanatory why I ban Doc

[onyx fractal]

These 2 personas changed my life

[spark ridge]

Ohhhh ok gotcha the doctor ban had me confused lol

I might play a few meta hunters this season

[midnight anvil]

Memo show me your Cueist build

I wanna see

[spark ridge]

Just to punish people for banning my witch

[midnight anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5273247718297236208

[onyx fractal]

The inso tc is from Yun, the S1st Hulla and AWG’s hunter

[spark ridge]

Only goatman and hulla though I am NOT touching ivy

[onyx fractal]

It’s just inso det with 1 panic and 1 cipher lock and 2 pallet break

[summer jackal]

Im asking what did they do to ruin their 3 cp kite

[onyx fractal]

I messed up the Cowboy’s lasso

[midnight anvil]

Ohhh I see

[onyx fractal]

By dodging

[midnight anvil]

Cipher lock to waste time be like

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[onyx fractal]

and they wanted to force their last cipher with 2 people on it

I downed both on the last cipher

[onyx fractal]

Yeah I stroll around a lot

It helps me

[midnight anvil]

Yeah

I started playing him

[eternal swan]

Why some people actually don't run det hulla I'm confused

[midnight anvil]

I’m getting the hang of it

Need to learn timings a bit still lowkey

[ivory kayak]

Prolly because of no attack recovery

[eternal swan]

I'm afraid i might lose without Det since hulla needs to hit all that 6 balls

[spark ridge]

No attack recovery and good hullas can get a down with one clone

[midnight anvil]

Icl

[spark ridge]

If you're not too comfy with the clones yet then bring detention

BUUUUT

[midnight anvil]

I’d ban hulla over Cueist

[spark ridge]

Strive to bring no detention one day!

[onyx fractal]

need tc and as I said, on small maps, you need tc

[eternal swan]

The only trick i know from him is like when u use clone and the surv is on the other side of the wall you can hit ur balls through the wall

[summer jackal]

So u stuffed him

[midnight anvil]

Hulla goat and bee

[spark ridge]

I ban cueist cause in addition to people not being able to kite him for some reason he steals all my cipher progress

[onyx fractal]

I actually just

[eternal swan]

Other than that i just use his jumps/dash for chase

[onyx fractal]

dodged the lasso by moving, he was A70th cowboy or smth

[spark ridge]

At least hulla you can cipher rush him

[midnight anvil]

Yeah this is the only reason stopping me from banning him in champion rank lowk

[summer jackal]

Idk what happened but kk

[midnight anvil]

His chase is ridiculous

[eternal swan]

What do u use when u use tc?

[summer jackal]

hulla u dont rlly need pallet break

[onyx fractal]

The Cowboy was good though, he tried to bait me with holding lasso

[onyx fractal]

because you bring peeper on small maps

extra pressure

[eternal swan]

For inso do you bring peeper or warp?

Warp rite..

[onyx fractal]

uh

the thing is

you always bring inso

[summer jackal]

hulla always brings inso

[onyx fractal]

without any exception

[eternal swan]

Oh i mean inso and det

[onyx fractal]

detention = bring warp

[eternal swan]

Not with tc

[summer jackal]

inso det warp

[eternal swan]

Ouh

[summer jackal]

can use peeper for draws

better chase w peeper

[onyx fractal]

also peeper is good for slugging

since hulla can freely chase rescuers

except first officer

okay so

less tide

=

double down

efficiently

and you put down peeper to waste healing time

or ciphers are hella slow

with peeper

so utilization is important

idk

my life got so much better after one tricking hulla

[spark ridge]

I played him a bit near the end of last season since I got his S skin but my depth perception still needs work for snipes lol

Though they've gotten better

I still don't trust myself to do it without vision or peepers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870204136010969089/1494251110402232361/A91B9384-C6AA-4D75-B27D-34E66E5C27DA.gif

[onyx fractal]

I've been playing hulla for

almost 4 seasons

[spark ridge]

I really wanted to pick him up on release but NAEU has been terminally afraid of him till like

Last season lol

[onyx fractal]

but I'm only being extremely comfortable with him like I am comfortable with goat or ann

now

after one tricking

[spark ridge]

Picking up goatman is hella appealing rn with all the target banning

I see people banning ripper wheel

💀

[onyx fractal]

i wish people target banned in jp

[summer jackal]

u want

Merc

[onyx fractal]

the only closest ban to target banning is opera peddler or ivy

[spark ridge]

Lol in NAEU it's target ban city

[summer jackal]

Arr

Aero area dependant

[onyx fractal]

Merc does burn his elbow pads very fast

[summer jackal]

enough to kite u

U’d need more ds to kill him

[eternal swan]

I genuinely don't know if i can use warp for det hulla since im kind of used with peeper hulla

[summer jackal]

u use warp for dd

Alot

[onyx fractal]

I would even chase grave just for the tide elimination, I think you are scared of being 3 cipher kited

[eternal swan]

Why r the main bans always includes cueist

[ivory kayak]

He snowballs quite hard in mid to end game

Insane map pressure

[eternal swan]

This match lowkey gonna eat me

[spark ridge]

Chase doc or puppet

Free max presence

[summer jackal]

Hulla grave is normal

What u talking abt bro

merc is not grave tho

also as hulla getting 3 cipher kited mean ur cooked

[onyx fractal]

You’re right, but it’s not like I’d see other rescuers than Grave and FO

[summer jackal]

no way ur drawing in that situation unless the survs mess up so hard

well everyone thinks differently

[eternal swan]

I chased puppeteer and he 4 cipher kited me..

I got tie tho

[ivory kayak]

I think its important when to know to switch targets because in the long term its not worth it

[eternal swan]

Everybody was far so idk, I have warp but like..

[ivory kayak]

Take a gamble on the other survivor performing worse than the one you left

[ivory kayak]

Was it a big map

[eternal swan]

Yes

[ivory kayak]

Ehh you couldve tried warping and considering hulla has a hastily pace

It would've been worth it

To try atleast

[errant quest]

You dont really want to switch target but if there really is guarantee loss bet on finding no BT is mybe ok

[ivory kayak]

Would you consider a 4 cipher kite a guaranteed loss

[errant quest]

It is already primed atp

I meanif you gonna change target its gonna be after chair but if its already 4 cipher or near prime then its already over

[eternal swan]

Ok that inso and TC hulla is lowkey cool

[errant quest]

He can chase anyone. Preferably luca or LG

Doc is a fine chase but you usually want to chase her when you already reach max pres

Peeper is also fine but you prolly have to bet a lot on camping

[ivory kayak]

Normalize using just deserts on the primed cipher ❤️‍🩹 ❤️‍🩹

[errant quest]

No one really care about get rid of tide tbf. Its more about being able to intercept rescuer or not

[onyx fractal]

?

[errant quest]

?

[ivory kayak]

?

[errant quest]

I dont know where people get the concept of get rid of tide from

[hazy owl]

?

Burn all tidecoder

[ivory kayak]

Tideseye my beloved 😢

[errant quest]

I have heard so many people talking about it even with my student

[hazy owl]

From my hatred towards tidecoder

[errant quest]

I was like since when its a thing

[hazy owl]

😭 tme is rare, but why when she exists in my team she bring tide

[onyx fractal]

For hullabaloo, to avoid cipher rush, he needs this

[errant quest]

No he doesnt

[onyx fractal]

if your survivors are failing even with 2 tide, that's a survivor issue

[ivory kayak]

Ask amethyst, hes the cause for bringing tide on decoders

[errant quest]

People just chase rescuer to get rid of rescueing potential

[ivory kayak]

Especially on Kurt

[errant quest]

Not bc they have tide

Like how hulla often chase aero first

[hazy owl]

People chase rescuers because they can afford to chase rescuer

[onyx fractal]

not every hunter can intercept rescues, and not every survivor will get rescue stuffed

so the safest option is to eliminate tide

[errant quest]

Not with hulla

[ivory kayak]

🍿

[errant quest]

If surv has no way to get rescue stuff, hulla is already a bad pick bc you will only tie at most

[hazy owl]

I mean, tide is used as anti chair camp pressure on certain areas

You won't die on the same area with tide

[hazy owl]

🥓

[errant quest]

As for grave chase its just hulla can chase him due to the fact he can hit through pallet

Not to mention 3 tides meta

Burning tide doesnt matter as much

[eternal swan]

I don't get why survs just don't straight up run to chair instead of getting 2 stacks of ball against hulla

[errant quest]

Study some combo will result in double hits in 2 sec so

[eternal swan]

I got a win using inso+tc on arms fact since they keep struggling from rescue and when one is down they're having a hard time healing due to peeper😭

[errant quest]

Its just like that mybe some dodge to prevent getting perfect double color

[summer jackal]

I dont even learn combos I just remember the colors

[eternal swan]

It just makes me happy when i elim a surv and it's still 4 ciphers i know i have my win/tie

[errant quest]

Well rmb turning left or right does help with insta combo

[eternal swan]

I sometimes struggle turning my colors and down a surv

[onyx fractal]

okay wait, I wanted to talk more but I just got busy, but I'd say one thing for last, rescue "stuffing" is not a reliable strategy, hullabaloo chases whoever is convenient, sure, but into the current meta, puppet, aero, grave, fo, your goal as a hunter should be to make the game more suitable for your pace, so playing for less tide turner defeats their purpose, 3 tide meta is tbh gone 1 whole season ago, it was popular later WBG's IVL lead, your strategy as a hunter should not be to "not make them rescue", you shouldn't underestimate your opponents

[eternal swan]

I need a good hullabaloo gameplay rn

[onyx fractal]

without less tide, the hunter has greater control over the map

[summer jackal]

u just need to dd

[onyx fractal]

it allows you to fight back against cipher rush

and yes, in the end, hulla's real camp strat should be dd

[errant quest]

What do you mean 3 tide is gone. Its legit still used in coa no?

[onyx fractal]

only in BO3

round 3

or when they need 1 escape

[errant quest]

I rmb ppl pick 3 tides against cueist

[summer jackal]

i mean if its 3 tides then one less dont matter that much

[onyx fractal]

but it's not like that in rank

asia server, jp, always 2 tide

[summer jackal]

They bring 3 tides so 2 can always be used

[onyx fractal]

yougg picks 2ndary tide on his lg and doctor etc

[errant quest]

Memo Im gonna say this

[onyx fractal]

it's harasser meta

[errant quest]

You never know when surv gonna do 2 or 3 tide

[eternal swan]

Send hullabaloo match wen

[onyx fractal]

that's true

[errant quest]

Just because ppl use it like that isnt a good strat

And like es said, not able to stuff is fine but you want DD

[outer bronze]

You can watch Coa's for good hunter pov or sometimes when I'm bored, I like to watch the top people ranking on the game

[onyx fractal]

but it's still better than gambling, don't you think

[errant quest]

I rmb even pro often say hulla that cant DD is a tie hunter

[eternal swan]

Is there any hullabaloo's gameplay? Like a recent one?

The only hullabaloo i saw was Peter's gameplay

[onyx fractal]

yeah I do remember you even saying that

But for now, the state of ranked comps

we only have 2 tides

[outer bronze]

Not in coa since it's not running right now, it'll come back in two days. But you can watch this year's coa qualifiers, it's barely a few weeks ago

[onyx fractal]

we are not in coa but coa 2 tides, most common

[errant quest]

Actually many ppl use hulla in tourney

This coa I mean

[onyx fractal]

yeah

Jin Peter

the bests

[errant quest]

Bc he is a good counter pick into meta

[eternal swan]

The only COA player i saw use hulla was Peter😭

[onyx fractal]

Moonlight, DOU5's sub hunt, AWG_Yun

[outer bronze]

hahaha nonooo, wait

[onyx fractal]

Look for AWG_Yun's hulla

he has been S1 for 3 seasons now

[eternal swan]

Where are the clips

[eternal swan]

Asia?

[onyx fractal]

yes

now hes AWG's main hunt

[errant quest]

https://youtube.com/@yunchan95?si=gAnHY5mE7ZU7-UeF

[eternal swan]

Is he currently S1 hullabaloo rn?

[onyx fractal]

yeah

[outer bronze]

out of CN

[onyx fractal]

my small map hulla persona is similar to his

[eternal swan]

Genuinely what's the highest points for hulla like wym the season already started and these ppl already have 8k+

[outer bronze]

bilibili has the cn qualifiers, youtube has the rest

[errant quest]

Pretty sure yun talked about persona before

That he prefers inso det warp

Peeper for fighting against harasser

Its his first vid

[onyx fractal]

that's what he used for 2 seasons const

[eternal swan]

NO CAUSE WHY R THESE PEOPLE SO LOCKED IN

[errant quest]

I alr sent his channel just check it out

[eternal swan]

2 days ago they were around 8.5k

[errant quest]

I personally look it up quite a lot

[eternal swan]

I regret not pulling for brightest star

And I genuinely don't like black vulture

This is his build:0

[summer jackal]

oh so thats yun

I watched his guide but didnt notice

[errant quest]

Easier to DD which is his win con and he can afford to commit chase more with nostalgia

But it needs good skillplay bc there is nothing helps with chase

[eternal swan]

He has 2 builds for dent

[summer jackal]

he brings pallet break in hospital arms church iirc

[eternal swan]

Ouh

[errant quest]

Dentist?

[summer jackal]

Oh what

Det

[errant quest]

Idk what is dent for

So I guess dentist

[summer jackal]

prob det

[summer jackal]

Not breaking pallet feels so weird 💀

[errant quest]

Ikr

Hulla pallet breaking is so weird

[eternal swan]

Why is it so slow

Slowest hunter breaking those damn pallets

[errant quest]

I mean he can get around most pallet with his speed so breaking pallet is often not necessary

Thats why it feels weird bc I automatically break bad pallet

Lol

[eternal swan]

I always break pallets early chase since yk they're just gonna start looping

[summer jackal]

If u bring destruction maybe

[errant quest]

Only need to break the one that give distance. Otherwise not needed

[summer jackal]

but w/o destruction it means free transition im dying

[errant quest]

The vault or loop can give you guarantee clone hit

[eternal swan]

Wait is double/triple tide meta..

I was so happy on this match lmao

I took long before I found prisoner then he got down at 5😭

Genuinely what's with weird match ups

I got matched with high tiers when i play hunter..

[lone magnet]

I can't lie

Ada buff

Does nth

It literally feels like perfumer buff

Majority of the time i just hit her like at most 5 seconds after

Its just too slow

[onyx fractal]

I don't think they are using their skills well

unless Goatman

"hitting 5 sec later"

is too much exaggeration

[lone magnet]

I think I've seen it actually do smth like once

Like qb i just get a free chip

Cueist just catches up

I had more cases of perfumer buff actually doing smth then ada buff

[eternal swan]

Genuinely will there be an early nerf for dentist

[lone magnet]

There was

[eternal swan]

Oh

[lone magnet]

He prob will be nerfed

Again

When he's in ranked

[eternal swan]

Ain't perf lowky good for rescue when half?

Like tank hits

[lone magnet]

It lasts too short

Plus u can bait it before their at chair

[eternal swan]

Did they even buff gardener

[ivory kayak]

Nerf mech buff kevin ❗ ❗

[lone magnet]

Yes

Buff was really good

[eternal swan]

Wat was the buff

[lone magnet]

Made her strong against chip and stunners

[eternal swan]

What was the buff

Did her bubble make her immune to chip and stun

[lone magnet]

Her shield is full hit

So u need

[eternal swan]

Oh damn

[lone magnet]

2 chips

And it can activate if ur stunned

So peddler vine for example

U can trigger if it's far

When she grabs you

[eternal swan]

Ouh

[timid cosmos]

It is possible to have 2 coffin as Embalmer ?

I did a game with you but idk how

[ivory kayak]

Yes if you get rescued as embalmer

By another teammate

You can only place 1 at a time though

[midnight anvil]

COA in 2 days

excited

💀

[ivory kayak]

Crashout over a bee

[midnight anvil]

valid crashout but netease writing the whole question like that got me concenred

💀 also the way how it starts w a v

cueist doesnt need a nerf 🥀

[ivory kayak]

I think somebody in the dev team is fed up with her

[midnight anvil]

bros a tie hunter at best

[midnight anvil]

😂 this got me crying nah

[prisma latch]

they saw that block of text in the form and decided to copy paste

[midnight anvil]

yeah

😭

first time seeing something like this

[ivory kayak]

All it takes is crashing tf out on the qna forms for a change

[midnight anvil]

whoever wrote this must have been bullied by a lot of bees

[timid cosmos]

Wow 😭

[midnight anvil]

😭

[timid cosmos]

Okay thank yooou

[midnight anvil]

the way the qna started with only 2 questions

the first part is so useless

[ivory kayak]

Makes you wonder why no one else has crashed out over the eu ping!! Must be quiet as hell from the eu side am I right

[midnight anvil]

someone also said joseph buff

💀

i dont need 10 minute matches in my game

[midnight anvil]

😭

netease when it time to release a new skin: "how mcuh money can we earn off this skin "

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

never bothers to fix the ping issues

[ivory kayak]

All it takes is to add a button to match with eu players only bro

That button would cost them exactly ZERO fkin dollars

[left cloud]

ai generated ping

[ivory kayak]

What if the eu server is located in Isreal

[left cloud]

oh

[ivory kayak]

In da big yahus office

[left cloud]

bye bye texting perms

[midnight anvil]

LMAO

😭

[prisma latch]

its like that one naiad rant in reddit

[midnight anvil]

caught me off guard

[ivory kayak]

I havent seen that one yet can u show us

[midnight anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-6451222253771109400

[prisma latch]

its so funny cuz they might not even be exaggerating

[left cloud]

AQUARIUM SURVIVL SIMULATOR

IM CRINE

[prisma latch]

there really was just that many naiads

[midnight anvil]

put the fish back in the freezer

🤣

[left cloud]

ima get jumped but she still kinda dook after the buff 😭

[midnight anvil]

naiad is kinda good atm

[prisma latch]

LMAO

[midnight anvil]

can play raw kiters with puddle so easily

[prisma latch]

i just think shes more obnoxious

[left cloud]

"asking for a mop" 😭

i need to crash out like this about no skill survivors

[prisma latch]

essentially having two harpoons is just annoying

[left cloud]

why hasnt lanternist been significantly nerfed yet bruh

[ivory kayak]

Naiad on her way to drop my fps from a steady 40 fps to 6.7 with her fkass cny accessory

[midnight anvil]

lantern is fine

[left cloud]

nuh uh

[midnight anvil]

nerf matador

[left cloud]

shes broken and no skill

i agree w matador too

[prisma latch]

said no one ever

[left cloud]

the nerf did like nothing

for either characters

[midnight anvil]

lantern is broken ur right but doesnt need a nerf

she can be my next main

[summer jackal]

Lantern is fine

[left cloud]

bro what

i been maining her since release

literally no brain

cipher rush central

[midnight anvil]

shes fine

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5273247718297236208

[prisma latch]

just want them to do something about that decoding buff cuz she doesnt need all that

[left cloud]

agree

[midnight anvil]

if u dont wanna deal w her i think u can ban her

i soometimes ban her

when im not in the mood to face her

[left cloud]

no one plays her (at least correctly)

i ban mech and forward

[midnight anvil]

tats good

i ban rescsuers

[ivory kayak]

Forward my beloved

[midnight anvil]

😎

forward can exist i counter him anyways

[left cloud]

i used to ban forward batter and someone called me homophobic for banning their ship lmaoo 😭

[midnight anvil]

up to some extent

[midnight anvil]

💀

[ivory kayak]

Try banning kevjose

[midnight anvil]

idt batter really needs a ban

[left cloud]

does that make me straightphobic because i banned adamil for a day

[midnight anvil]

cuz u can force him to use one ball and then make him rampage, thats already 2 ballls gone

only 1 remains

he gone to cd

[prisma latch]

are you homophobic

[left cloud]

i dont ban him anymore

[ivory kayak]

no I have heterochromia

[left cloud]

i was just traumatized from smurfs

[midnight anvil]

😏

so by me

[left cloud]

ima sound real stupid but how do u go against thief

[ivory kayak]

Get out

[left cloud]

💀

[ivory kayak]

Charge attack and look behind you

[left cloud]

oh 😭

[midnight anvil]

wat

i reached champion still it counts

[ivory kayak]

I DETEST smurfs

[midnight anvil]

which hutner do u use

[left cloud]

🕷️

[midnight anvil]

but smurfs = more chance to get skin

[prisma latch]

you af

[midnight anvil]

u real

[ivory kayak]

Wdym skins

[midnight anvil]

frags

frags = more skins

[ivory kayak]

Oh

[midnight anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5273247718297236208

[left cloud]

i kid you not i didnt know what smurfs meant in game context so the first time i saw someone say it in game i was so confused

[midnight anvil]

i don smurf to bully low tiers

i smurf to reach champion

[left cloud]

i genuinely thought they meant that blue thing

and i was like "thats an interesting insult"

💀

[ivory kayak]

You smurf

Gargamel wouldnt be proud

[midnight anvil]

whos tat

[ivory kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/gargamel-the-smurfs-smurf-village-chasing-running-away-gif-21276752

The one chasing the smurfs

[midnight anvil]

oh damn

[hazy owl]

You're so pure 😭

[willow wren]

THIS

I would gladly wait 10min for a match if ill be able to hunt fairly

[willow wren]

Waiting for ur matador paragraph

[left cloud]

i didnt know any "game vocabulary/slang " before starting idv 😭

its ok because now i know , in 2 languages too

[left cloud]

i gotchu

[lone magnet]

hi candye

[left cloud]

i think i once made a tier list of the most annoying survivors to go against in my personal experience

oh

corn

[lone magnet]

whatup

[left cloud]

didnt recognize u for a sec

[willow wren]

Don't forget to ping me!

[lone magnet]

hi snake