#afk-lore
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Probably
hourglass tattoo on belly headcanon
Don't worry kaz got everything under control
Hourglass tramp stamp
I'd keep golden orbs if I ever had the room for a colony but gods know I never will
Kitty!
I will buy u a spider house if I ever get rich and famous on yt
@static cargo like tony stark?
Rich, famous, spider obsessed
lol so uncanny
uhhh spider-man?
L M A O THAT TOOK ME TOO LONG TO GET
I really hope he's not obsessed with Spiderman
Considering that in the mcu he's still in high school
Obsessed doesn't rly equate to romantic or sexual advances, obsessive parents exist
True
it's mostly familial, and he has pepper.
Which is where my brain went
Ye
anYWAYS maybe we should go back to lore before a mod crashes the party
Lilith gonna give us furry lore what's the biggest thing you want them to cover for the Maulers
I'm kinda disappointed in the gb lore over all? But like whatever I can twist it to my own ends. I'm like 90% sure the Mauler lore is going to crash all my current hcs but
the races. i don't even know if the felines are of the same kind or nah
I like the gb lore bc it gave me iggy
some gb lore felt unnecessary and out-of-place. sorenland felt forced in my head
Oh yeah the first like three were good
^^ true
Sorenland was forced and completely detached from in-game
I didn't like the Feast and the Demise one
Queen Karen
You have Vedan and Nara and Quaedam and Kelthur and Shemira and...Karen
"i recognize that the council has made a decision but given that it's a stupid-ass decision I have elected to ignore it" -cobra abt Sorenland
One of these names is not like the others
the landmarks in the king's manse like the school and the graveyard was so cringey to read
Why is there no graveborn maulers? What did they do with their comrade's corpses?
yeah queen karen too
I liked Niru's lore.
Actually
I'd like to point out there may be one gb mauler
There's a quest that mentions an undead bear being morvus's rival
I liked the plaguegrip stuff but also does Kelthur run it or what like why do they have the same name
Niru's lore felt good, but i think Shemira was so out there. She's just a mother, you know
Shemira wasn't really mentioned in the lore iirc which sucks
I wanted more on her
Like who is she
she was mentioned. She works hand-in-hand with niru, in which she harvests the souls(?)
Her lore would be "takes care of child and husband bc one is a kid and the other is a dumb nerd" and it would be more compelling than sorenland
can someone explain sorenland i didnt read much of the lore lmao
It's dumb that's the long and short
It's better that way
fakåfkåek alright
Just read the in game lore and that's the canon
Yeah but it completely ignored the in-game lore 150%
Like nothing in the in-game lore was even acknowledged
thats not very nice
Nope
I'm having to rewrite Garion to fit into Niru's new lore but I'm kinda liking it
Hold on let me get link I have it bookmarked
4.2 The Whispering Doom
The Whispering Doom is a giant bone tower which looms in the center of the Boneyard, made entirely from skeletons excavated from t
Also I still don't see Shem mentioned
i think they removed the shemira lore wtf
ah
I never saw it then ig
they have her picture with niru and everything
And she's a fan favorite I'm shocked they didn't give her more lore
can facebook notes be editted?
But yeah I'm reworking Garion to act as caretaker of Niru's furnace.
Idk, probably by the poster but who knows
Idek what GB ocs I had before the lore came out besides Gotha
Rage also needs a total redo. Pigeon is fine.
you know???
Djsksosoenfksofkwmfksofnf wow that's r00d I never got to see it??
i thought it was a mandela effect or something
I based my ambassador design off her spirits
i read it the actual second it came out, dince i got the ping
It would makes sense if her spirits were ambassadors or something so I based it on that. Man I wish they'd left her in because that would make it perfect
her lore was supposed to be in "the sorrowful" section. it was very detailed, actually
Let me find that doodle again.
I based it off shem's ult kinda
Man I wish I hadn't missed that part
... even afkarena.net doesn't have it
Really like this image from the plaugegrip lore. The actual lore is disappointing , tho
Oh yeah whoever did the editing for the banners was phenomenal
To no one's surprise, this one is my favorite
^^ yeeessss
If Shem was in the boneyard lore they wrote her out quick bc I snatched that the day it came out and she's not in my lore doc
Suuuch a good job editing his sprite. It feels like a completely reworked sprite tbh
Yeah and they keep putting ferael and kelthur together, like what does that mean? New union? Are they in the assassins clan together?
kinda remembered some of the lore. Niru was said to have a hobby of collecting interesting souls, and he actually gives his findings to shemira.
kinda sweet tbh
Let my assassin boys be boy friends
AWWW NO WHY DID THEY GET RID OF THAT PART
THATS SO SWEET
He still collects in the lore but keeps it to himself lILITH GIVE IT BACK
Then in the sorrowful section, there are very tortured souls that niru himself couldn't even handle. Shemira takes care of them, taking their energy until they perish.
Accepted. 100%.
Also yeah her image surrounds the Sorrowful section and she's not even mentioned
That's sad
omg.....peak relationship goals
"You don't cry nearly as much as Damian did"
ok but imagine my disappointment in vedan ending up in one of the gb lore banners and he wasnt even mentioned.
like, i don't really want to see shemira in a broken-ass tower cuz she's a strong independent woman, but it explains a lot about her powers.
He was mentioned? Tho that lore one is pretty shitty and includes queen karen
I don't think even Quaedam could Contain Shem
his face is in the banner art i believe
It's Not Good, but I can show you if u want
hes in the banner art but iirc hes not in the actual writing
@quasi leaf that would explain her succ ability yet they removed it
also cobra show pls
@leaden bloom YES EXACTLY
Vedan is in the bloody feast lore
The Bloody Priesthood is not located in the territory of Bantus like other Graveborn groups. It is a secret society of humans who are loyal to the Gravebor
#justgirlythings when ur boo collects spirits for you
It's dumb imo
It explains that he's not undead ig?? But it Succs
Idk they lost ideas after the first like four
i dont like the idea of vedan being a part of a type of organization
like, at all
lmao
so thats going in the trash bin
Mood
Me 2. That, Sorenland, and whatever the hell the whole hivemind idea is that they can't make up their mind on
vedan is a lonely dad with 2 daughters and an emo son and a demon hunter for a husband thats my canon
alternatively hes an asshole but hes still lonely yknow
Both
i tend to say he has the Despicable Me Gru TM development and i stay by it
is there even a vegan alternative for the taste of blood?
If he lives long but doesn't age, can we or can we not call him a boomer
Boomortal
yknow what thats way b etter
How did isabella become a graveborn? She turned vedan into a vampire, silvina died and was resurrected, but what about isa?
i think it was a calling
similar with nara, but the only difference is that nara is dead while isabella was alive during the calling
though i'm not sure.
I thought that Vedan was like "let's do the time warp again" and by that i mean he was like "you should be gb 2 now"
Isabella was born a living graveborn, thuse here powers at a young age
I don't think that's how that works
more likely she was a wilder b4 and thus had some type of magic
I'm pretty sure they were both humans but to each their own
It's not like lilith will ever give us answers
that's what we call a headcanon! L O L
Those "horns" may just be ribbons
I had a theory that Isabella and Silvina were wilders because of the horns, too. Also because of Silvina's name. Most of the characters have names that are moderately thematic for their faction, and hers is out of place. (to be fair, Isabella's is out of place too)
(for those of you who don't want to bother with Google, the root silva- is Latin for forest, which names like sylvia, silvina, etc. derive from. Those of you who are into Pathfinder/DnD may also recognize the root is present in Sylvan, the fey language )
That name theory works for Silvina, but Isabella very much sounds like a LB name and fits more in with names like Belinda and Rosaline than names like Kaz and Lyca
The horns, though...they don't really look or act like horns
Like with Shemira, I don't agree with but I can see the argument for her being Wilder because of her horns because they look like other horns in the game
But with Silvy and Isa, yeah, they definitely seem to be more a fun little design thing like Grez's hair which doesn't make technical sense but looks nice
I figured Shemira’s horns were part of her hat , kind of like ferael’s are part of his mask I think they are decorations
Yeah, same, but some people think they're legit so who knows
I wrote this about a specific story I'm writing but this applies to 94% of my ships, esp with Iggy like
Lorsan and Elwood, Iggy and literally anyone, Khasos and Belinda...no one can be happy I guess
:,^)
Wait where are these banners from 👀
The banners in the lore?
Wait they posted banners with the lore
Yeah lol
mauler lore when
Furry banners
Furry banners
next. they announced that was the last gb lore
FURRY BANNERS
FURRY BANNERS
FURRY BANNERS
FURRY BANNERS
FURRY BANNERS
inb4 we get brutus dabbing in a banner
finna make a bootleg afk arena server for people who get banned brb
I can make that
we already kinda have that dab
not if i make it first
Brutus dab
Brutus dab
Wait I came in here to post my mauler oc lmao I almost forgot
i have it up
brdabus
aefäpka¨kfae trick ur name reminds me of a warcraft 3 cheat code lmao
i have the bootleg afk server
keyserzose
This is zarya uwu she can summon these weird gauntlet thingies and beats her enemies to death with them
hella
so Amara from BL3
uwu
she is indeed a good girl
if she didnt have a snout did trick rly draw her?
can i make a hypo or celestial oc based on the island of misfit toys? yes.
should i? ...also yes.
will i?
eh
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TBD
i made a wilder based on greninja it truly is free real estate, angi
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technically it would just be aslan if aslan had attack dolls
the lion from narnia?
huh
i dont remember what those are called
😐
aight
Just u guys wait I'm gonna make those majestic brutus dab
Please do
Wait which day does the lore come out again
It's random
Gonna draw furry art to distract myself until the furry lore comes 
Wait theres a vedan banner what's the vedan banner
TALENE'S ART IS DRIVING ME INSANE WOWOWOWOW
her hair in the art is not translated well in the animation, and i'm honestly bummed out about it.
I like her sprite hair more
eh? but she's hair goals in the art though ahahaha
i'm honestly so living right now because of this i'm stressed
Her hair in the art is too wavy for me
Not very fire-like
But still she is gorgeous. Definitely my favorite design so far
Haha looks like she has a very weak grap on it. But when your sword is as hot as the sun you won't need much force to kill your enemies
touché
it looks like she is only using four finger to hold it, considering how the fingers were not bent completely to the palm, but what I'm bothered with is the "bulk". it's like a looking at your nails kind of hand pose.
but enough about that. She's gorgeous what the what
and I'm in love with how full her lips are, considering the thin lips the other girls have.
Her other hand looks like she blowing a kiss before melting the ribs of some hypogeans
She's holding the sword like a javelin, why
She's basically a combination of Kelthur and Thoran. Kelthur having a stretch of life after death, then Thoran on reviving.
Wait Rowan was supposed to married a princess, and her name is Petra?
He ran away before the wedding
Yes my girl petra I love her a lot
guys what's the vedan banner
Isn't it in one of the first couple GB lores?

why do u even care so much trick lmao

What if BRUHTus was in Narnia verse?
now that's a statement
Brutus as Aslan?
Then Lucius as Peter, Belinda as Susan, Estrilda as Lucy, and maybe an older Rowan as Edmund
I think Shemira can handle the role of the Ice Queen
pfft I imagined Golus as Mr. Tumnus and I can't even
@silent jay please tell me you'll consider Mr. Tumnus Golus because that ^^^^ is a cute AU idea
It would be a Golus in my Redemption AU personality wise I imagine. Like a beaten down, hopeless, desperate, and depressed Golus with broken horns. One side of me digs it. (I actually had a long ramble over Narnia book verse I read the whole thing as a kid but i cut that all off to this point.)
Hell yeah
I suspect they are adding more than one Union
I feel like this is going to be a big update
If they are teasing this hard
If there is a big update, do you think they'll finally do something with this?
i hope so!!
that would be really cool
i wonder if maybe....additional stories depending on ascension level
or maybe additional diamon rewards
Possibly, test server patch notes does have something it hasn't explained that is new to the game
like sdorica
Tbh I always thought it would just be a sort of relationship chart, like listing close friends or frenemies or rivals etc but maybe I've just been playing too much cookie run
also unrelated note but someone should make an afk dating sim
I can't do it bc if I did the main character would just be one of my ocs
Keep you ears to the ground. I'm sure they are going to be releasing stuff until they drop the patch notes.
I have the patch notes in the test servers, just dunno if I'm allowed to ya know, say stuff before release
Oh did they release on the test server already? I'll have to take a look
@gritty trail can you send me the patch notes that you have?
I'm pretty sure you've seen em already but I'll try and send it to ya
I ended up finding them, thanks anyways!
Ah, alrighty then
Wait, is the update on the test servers supposed to be up today, or did I misread em?
It will be tonight at about 11am your time
actually 11 my time i guess
but it will go through and it should take about 3 hours or so then they release and i get to jump on some code
Okie dokie
Now Tidus's story is gonna need a change
I haven't even read his story
Oh boy @silent jay @slim ore
Wait what
Changes to mauler lore apparently
what are they doing to my boy
why are they changing spartacus's lore
Also am i the only one who likes the mauler lore?
While i enjoy some of the Mauler lore, other parts of it I gotta admit I grit my teeth at
I ignore like 90% of it for Garion and Mazda's lore
The only real issue I have with it is that if a character has muscle their lore is "MAULERS ONlY lIKE STRONgTH Be STONK" and if a character doesn't have muscle like Vurk or Ankhira, it's like "well ok but listen"
But like besides that...it's a bunch of rival tribes...it's almost like different groups of people don't always get along
Wow
I hate the 'savages' lore slapped on poc but I'll have ppl screaming politics down my throat if i go down that road
Same
I guess I just don't have a problem with people writing tribes like tribes in a game that isn't even in the modern day
I have so many opinions on that but I'm just gonna leave it as I'm glad you're not still in my server if you think the mauler lore is just 'tribes being tribes'
I just like my spartacus boy and i don't like that they changed his lore
GIVE ANTANDRA ABS YOU COWARDS
THAT TOO
MOOD
Im just gonna say it. As a Poc myself, I’m irritated and disappointed with canon Mauler lore.
GIVE HER A SNOUT
Wait they changed the dragonslayer lore
You should put it through google translate after the patch
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will the dragomn still 
Are they changing it in chinese too or just english
oh hm idk actually
SKBSKDBSKSB


Volcker and Saxony
I wonder if it's to add that part about vurk ditching his treasure to help his friends
We can only pray
It's my favorite union story so I hope
her wings look so weird lol
it took me a while to see where they split cause I knew there were two sets
If Lilith makes Mauler lore better and gives characters more depth other than being “savages who value strength” great, but if they still push that “strength is law and might makes right” on a POC coded faction, I’m going to be irritated. Bad enough they did that dumb convoluted slavery thing like the Orcs in wow. I won’t be silent about this.
Aren't they supposed to be orc-coded
but anyway going to something less controversial
her wings look so weird lol
There's already the Sphinxes who value shrewdness and cunning, and Arachins who value traps
guys pls
I'm on Bruja's side here lol
just let it go
I bet they're editing wareks story to directly reference tidus in it
If you think im going to be settled by that than you’re wrong
Durri value stealth
I'm not saying we have enough, I'm saying it's already not a monolith
It's still over all considered a very violence-oriented culture and that's implied over all maulers which is terrible
This is me, a Poc, having had enough of this. This me, a poc, saying that Mauler lore is extremely flawed and criticizing the lore in game about a poc coded faction.
whether or not it's based in physical strength or stealth or cunning, the point is they're evil coded and based on the cultures of PoC who are actually very peaceful people 99.9% of the time
The issue here is that Lightbearers are too White coded
No it's both
If LB were more diverse Maulers wouldn't have to be the PoC stand in
give all factions blatant PoC tbh
Guys, none of us are going to change our viewpoints, can we just...agree to disagree and move on? I know it's ironic considering arguing follows me like a freaking plague but like. Chill.
if you're uncomfortable just mute the channel for a bit
some people may change their viewpoints, kinda sucks you won't but w/e
Aren't orcs generally poc coded too
Like i know in warcraft the trolls straight up have jamaican accents or smth
Y E A H
//also there will be a sun wu kong hero soon so. i think its for lb or celestials but yay asian rep
I'm looking forward to that, about time from a chinese company ngl
The closest they'll get to asian rep is a monkey smh
that too tho
I’ve been forced to be silent about Mauler lore here cause it would rock the boat. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a poc and forcibly silenced by others cause “it’s canon lore. Blah blah, don’t try to give this brute strength faction depth or critic it”
^^^^
Tbh
It's why I like your fix-it lore so much
Bruja lore > lillith
well sun wu kong is a monkey god in myth so im okay with it but!!! i will step aside bc this is not my time rn hehe i love u guys❤ 
Oh lmao zan I didnt even recognize u here
❤️
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Yo Alice, i’m happy for you and your asian rep
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Alice did you see the art for Talene
I am so happy and hope that it turns out very good
Me too
god that reminds me I need to update Garion's lore for the new gb lore with niru
O yea
YES im drawing her rn @faint yoke
I'm so behind on all the gb lore lmao
and rewrite my fic. Which seems big but like I know how I want it to go now
I do think antandra and satrana are moving in the right direction tho, w having more sympathetic characters anyways
Lmao I need to finish the gb lore too
The official artist is killing it
good luck cobra whew thatmust be lotsa work
I can do that while waiting for furry lore
It's won't be too much tbh having official concrete lore to jump off is better than all the guessing I did initially in Of Fire and Fickle Fates
Antandra and skreg are 2 of my favorites as characters bc they're sympathetic and are more than just brute strength
Skreg is wonderful I love him
I don't remember who made the connection between antandra and beyonce but i can't get it outta my head
Skreg appreciation time
Skreg is precious
Sjbsksbdksbsksbsjs I think might've been me
You know
Generally i love the characters for how i hc them rather than how they're laid out in the lore
Vurk is laid out like an absolute bastard but that's why I like him lmak
Maulers could’ve had a better backstory. They live in the deserts but their harsh environment breeds not only strong and warrior like people but also compassionate and heavily community based. Survival together is key and yes, there are disagreements and differences but they still have a strong sense of community and the majority come together to oppose those that seek to exploit them and invade their homeland. (And that’s me not addressing the slavery issue. That one goes with my Colonizer Lightbearer headcannons I have where certain more corrupted members are introduced to the concept of slavery and that is what gave rise to it in Mauler society. Only to then spark a revolution where I imagine Khasos leading it to change their society for the better and bring down the slavemasters who dare bring discourse within their society)
And that’s my Mauler Revolution headcannon. It’s not all there. But I prefer that over canon.
Wow your hc is so much better than mine
A man of taste I see
tbh i don't think Maulers should have slavery at all
they're like, only the strong survive
Khasos revolution
Khasos revolution
but they use the strong to entertain
It does mention in the lore tho that maulers dont like to be wasteful which is why they enslave the weak instead of just like killing them r something. Which still is a terrible reason to enslave someone (like there would be a reason that isnt terrible lol) but they do have a reasoning
Anyways
Khasos revolution
Khasos revolution
it’s not a good reasoning. Because it creates a different type of waste.
This ipad made me skip a word dang it
Yeah it's still terrible reasoning lol
My ipad kept interrupting me so i gave up replying on it. But yeah
I mean like, those who are enslaved or forced to be in the arena are strong, so not sure what their society bases on
And how can the tribe be considered top or bottom
Not to mention there is little to no sign in clothes and color of nobels and slave
Khasos and satrana were weak before they received training. I suppose khasos less so since he was able to defeat the centurion but at the least he was definitely assumed to be weak by mauler society
he's just small
at least that's how i remember in his lore
Talking about small then how vurk and skreg still survive is uhm-
Their entire species is small though
well for example with tidus
it's as if everything that's not lion is on the bottom of society
I wonder if some species (races?) associate with each other more than others, and are thus more subject to the hierarchy
Durri are tiny, but they also seem to mostly keep to their tunnels
And sphinxes don't seem very large or physically powerful, but they're said to have advisors in every tribe, meaning they're at least lower tier nobility outside of sphinx society
Pokemon sword and shield AU
wilder oc
Cute!
Talene's lore, from what I understand, says she is of the race of Obsidian Finches, and in the afterlife, she was blessed to be reborn by her Finch ancestors as an offering to Dura and her cause.
Is she a glorified Celestial-Mauler? Her lore specified her race too much to be left unnoticed. Plus, Her color palette is a bit alien beside Orthros, Athalia, and Elijah and Lailah.
I want to say celestial wilder but her palette is too intense to be one
Fire concepts are basically Maulers. Wilders usually shy away from that and go for earth, wind, and water elements.
Finch hehe
WAIT, FINCHES? YOU MEAN TALENE WAS ON OF THESE TINY BIRB?
she was atticus finch
Something for my Pokemon au
Maid Rosaline would like to battle!
•Polteageist
•Sylveon
•Chansey
(Tbh Tea....pot)
wow
hq in what way?
In a way i can read the text?
view original and zoom in?
Oh i had to download it, discord compressed and didnt allow to zoom bigger
ahhh
@last sphinx did you do it?
thank you
😄
I'm accepting corrections if I got things wrong
as you can see the differences b/w current and older version
haha, sure might give you some feedback after the weekend
we know the lore isn't perfect but we're working on it
I mean working on improving it/revealing more info
@hard jewel out of curiosity, did you guys initially not expect that people would care this much about it? bc so many ppl love and and analyze the lore haha. alot more than most mobile game communities ive been in
@raven kraken yeah, it was kind of a surprise, but a welcome one 
yes indeed 
It should mention that Zolrath created himself tho.
Or rather, tricked the heroes into saving the cultists that made that ritual that awakened him or something
I wonder if there's more than one Zolrath tho
Ok I'm not the only one who thought khasos might be latran lol
Planning to make a Afk Arena character based on this pokemon thats in my team
Yes pls I love Hatterene
You're making a palette swap Mirael?
Nah I think they're going to make an OC for AFK based off of the Pokemon
i do not like that
Vibe Check: the pokemon
@last sphinx Sorry if this is late, but you may have not included the three ancestral Wilders in the Peaks of Time - Rest in Peace lore. Their names are Ilydent, Elreth, and Thelarion. A certain Larin was also mentioned by Kaz in her dialogue. Hope it helps you, and good job! 😊
Why I have her in my team
@quasi leaf lemme dig up that text and I'll update appropriately. Thanks!
Also make Rowan have Sirfetch’d
Imagine getting attacked by a hatterene for being too loud and your terror and pain attracting every other hatterene in a 30 mile radius
... now that's a perspective
I think I’ll make it as a Lightbearer because its a fucking witch
Hatterene is Nara but VIBE CHECK
well crap. Thelarion's lore conflicts with Arden's
well...I can make it work, but holy hell did Arden outlive him. If I assume Dusk Watch and Dusk Patrol are one and the same. I guess they are distinct.
I fix
A lightbearer who’s lonely in the mushroom glowing forest
BALLONLEA IS BEAUTIFUL I can only imagine
An AFK hero based off of Hatterene
Surrounded by the Hattrem and some Snom
Fighting Morgrems in the forest and the city
So.... Who's Captain Hodgekin? Where's he referenced?
That's the only thing on the relationship chart I don't know.
Yep a Hero based on Hatterene!
(You’re allowed to make Fanart of her,please Ping me if you did)
@dire helm This is late, but he's referenced in the Graveborn lore on AFK Arena's Facebook page notes.
I’m thinking of also doing a location tree to show where certain events took place and where characters are from. With one or two exceptions, most of the lore is consistent with how the world map is laid out
@last sphinx u are doing gods work
thanks
Thank you

Fawkes and Isabella have the same ability

Dangnabbit everytime I see kaz now I think of the LorsanxKaz ship
Whoops
How do you guys feel about afk arena having it's own anime series
Depends on the protagonist party
there's a lot of GB and Mauler fans here, so if the protagonists are mainly LB fighting against those factions if might not come off too well
IM PLANNING TO MAKE ANOTHER POKEMON BASED HEROES AGAIN
||Its Galarian Cursola and Frostmoth||
It could also go the way of 'no protag' kind of story, where every side has it's problems and it's good
I mean, that's kind of how they write it currently
Cursol
“Dead Coral”
she's purrty

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Howdy guys, i need an explanation
There is the scheme with interrelations between heroes, so there is pointed out that Baden is Estrilda's Uncle..? Can anybody explain this?
Thank you for help in advance)
The English lore really, really makes it sound like Baden is her dad, I agree. The eyes comparison, the ability for Baden’s, Thane’s, and Estrilda’s lore to allow for Baden’s time of death and Baron Rayne’s time of death to overlap, and the fact that Baron and Lord can be interchangeable titles for a Baron (Baden was referred to as Lord Rayne, and “head of the house”, implying he is the Baron) make the lore intuitively suggest that Baron Rayne and Lord Baden Rayne are one and the same.
The arguments against that being the case are:
- the writer didn't explicitly use the title “Baron” and call Baden “Baron Rayne”
- Jakub assures us that they are intended to be different people (I assume he got his info directly from the writer/ narrative designer responsible for the lore, but if you want to be pedantic, you COULD argue that since this information isn't explicitly written in the lore text itself, it can technically be disregarded)
- the Chinese translation (while not the true canon) changes the timeline so Baron Rayne dies when Estrilda was 10, in the skirmish that wiped out the male Raynes (placing his death long after Baden’s , potentially meaning that Baden was the elder brother and was Baron first, then Baron Rayne succeeded him after his death, making the title of “lord” and “head of the house” make sense.) While the Chinese lore isn’t supposed to be used as a metric for judging this, I assume that the translation is meant to be close enough to the original that slight changes would be keeping the intent of the true canon in mind, so the much larger disparity in the timeline seems suggestive of Baden and the Baron being two different people
It has also been argued that Baden and the Baron could have been similar looking, making Estrilda resemble both of them. (Anecdotally- my own cousin (via maternal uncle) looks exactly like my mom did when she was my cousin’s age)
I personally like to think Baden is her dad, based on the lore’s wording, but the powers that be have declared that non canon
Oh I forgot another argument against them being the same person- Baron Rayne was a general. Nothing in Thane or Baden’s lore suggests Baden was ever a general
If you've seen my original version of the relationship tree on Reddit, you can see that I labeled Baden as Estrilda's dad, since I based my tree solely on the lore. You can also see that redditors in the AFK community who commented that this was incorrect were downvoted into oblivion, so the Uncle vs Dad is a very contentious subject here.
Hell, I even made a diagram similar to yours @leaden bloom, arguing why I thought Baden was Estrilda's dad, but decided not to post it after talking to Jakub about the lore. Actually, I never deleted it, and since I put time into it, I might as well post it anyway,since it points out how a reader could interpret the lore as establishing Baden as Estridla's father
The afkarena subreddit is so touchy
as in they're sensitive?
My diagram:
that gave me a headache to read
poor color contrast?
nah, i'm not a graphic designer, so it could have been organized better, but since the point this was trying to make is moot, there's no reason to fix it. Just wanted to share
From what I understand of it, Estrilda's father was the first Baron of House Rayne. In his death due to war, Baden took the position of Baron, due to his high standing in his House (being former baron's brother after all). When Baden died, along with other Raynes, Estrilda took position as Baroness.
The last sentence is a little off. Thane's lore establishes that he became Castellan after Baden died, and the rest of the Raynes died after Thane become Castellan. And apparently House Rayne only considered male heirs, since they said there was no heir, despite Estrilda clearly being a potential heir
i think it just means that there is no male heir, so a woman took over the House
all the other Raynes who are male have died based on Estrilda's lore
damn. reminds me of ancient civilizations.
That's a fair point. It may not have been Estrilda though, since she is described as the youngest. It doesn't specify if she is the only daughter, and therefore the sole remaining heir after the death of her brothers, or if some other, older daughters are included among her siblings. There is also the potential for her mother to still hold the title of Baroness, if she is still alive
Fair point. I don't know how assigning a baroness works, but maybe she was elected(?) Or she is trained to rule House Rayne and when she got older, would take the position. Consider it like a regency.
my best bet would be that she was appointed by the king, especially getting the general position.
On the subject of the nobility, it's strongly suggested that Count Vedan sent Silvina to assassinate Baron Rayne. The question is, why? I doubt it had anything to do with his position in line for the throne, since Baron is the lowest tier in nobility, and a Count is very high. I wonder what he did to piss Vedan off
maybe it was a political thing. Vedan was a part of the organization with Queen Karen, so maybe Baron Rayne (not Baden(?)) is a threat to their plot.
Note, that in the Chinese lore, their titles are very differnt- Vedan is a baron, and Rayne is a Marquis, which i9s one level above Count
i don't even know what to consider cannon anymore
English is the true canon, but I like to compare and contrast since it could give insight to older drafts
or alternative ideas
but, lilith is a china-based company, which may be done by chinese writers
Jakub said English was the true canon, but I agree with you, which is why I compare and contrast with the Chinese lore and not any of the other translations
the chinese lore is richer, in my opinion, and the lore there explain more things than in the english one. but i guess english would make do since it's universal
Oh yes. Chinese one does have a little more romance to it
Also, side note, barons are said to serve the king and in exchange be provided with land. Estrilda, being in a house without a ruler to bear the name of Rayne, is forced to reclaim their land. she serves the king to hopefully still have ownership of their home
Also, kinda nice to imagine that Kelthur is Estrilda's not-blood-related cousin.
Cousin or nephew?
I know what you mean since Lady Marwen is not his mother and is related to Lord MArwen via marriage, but Lady Marwen could be Estrilda's sister or aunt, which would change if it is cousin or nephew
kinda weird that she is an aunt of someone barely the same age as her, based on art. though maybe her father is so old to the point that she was born two generations later than him
well, not-cousin or not-nephew
the timeline is also unclear. We don't know how many generations separate Estrilda from Lady Marwen. Kelthur could have died ages ago, and not aged due to being undead
true. we also don't even know if the graveborn's faces are even theirs to begin with, since the stitching is a thing
I'm uncertain of what makes the faces relevant. Can you explain?
well that's off-topic lol but i guess slightly on-topic due to the being ageless bit mentioned
ah.
well they don't age, but that's because of the constant restitching of new skin and/or preserving oils based on bounty quest lore
ahh
Regarding the timelines, the only timeline we can really establish between Raynes and Graveborn is based off the fact that Silvina, Baron Rayne, and Estrilda crossed paths. Knowing Silvina was still alive gives us an approximate timeline for Baden, Thane, Estrilda, Isabella, Vedan, and Silvina. We should be able to assume all Maulers, Wilders, and Lightbearers are contemporaries, and some Celestials and Hypogeans can have their timelines approximated based on interactions with Dura and characters from the aforementioned factions, but most of the Graveborn could be from any time. We don't know which wars Ferael, Niru, and Izold fought in, Thoran and Grezhul are probably ancient, we don't know how long Seirus has existed, so Nara's timeline is difficult to place, and House Rayne is so old, we can't reliably place Kelthur.
Fair points, though i do feel that Grezhul and Thoran are more recent than one may think. The Bantus Empire was long ago, but if I remember correctly, Thoran's visions for the empire were good, until he was ressurected. Thoran was also the reason of the Graveborn fleet growing extremely fast. Since the general area of dominance (King's Manse, Abandoned Port, Isle of the Banished, Mire Town(?)) feels relatively small for a zombie fleet, his ressurection may be at the very least two generations old.
There this quest in the game that make me wonder why they just don't bring two tents instead of one.
How can you protect your liege if you're sleeping in a different room?
two tents 5 feet apart bc they are not gay!!
the wukong is coming!!!
the wut
the image isn’t sending, but he now has voice lines! unfortunately his name isn’t there i think. it says sun wukong- monkey king warrior
i still don’t know when he would come out though, since others have been confirmed for a long time but still haven’t come out yet
i'm just waiting for Talene
Same
I think it's for the better though. Warek's slavery-induced storyline already received a lot of flack.
The cosplay contest results are out already aaaaaaaaa
The Isabella cosplay won, and I'm not disappointed in the slightest. It's very detailed
Didn't realize that Isabella is a lolita icon until now tbh
imagine a budget Skreg.
someone uses their bulldog for iron jaw or smth lmaoo
"come here you lil fucker i need internet clout"
if lightbearers have a faction advantage over maulers, why do lbs frequently fall into the grasp of maulers in the lore?
Well humans have a faction advantage to animals but a lion will still fuck you up
not if you're smart enough to respect it
i doubt most humans have the intellectual capacity to understand that though.

yes.
is there any lore with wilders and human faction interacting
now that I think about it, all the lore seems to be between Maulers and Lightbearers
I wonder if there is a neutral relationship between wilders and lightbearers
their realms seem to be neighboring, and so far no lore showing outright hostilities.
also, they're mutual in terms of faction advantage.
their morals are similar so their relationship is probably harmonious, same with Maulers and Graveborns.
i wouldn't mind seeing a union story involving cross faction.
like a wilder hero and a lightbearer hero
Wilders are friends with lbs. There's some small lores on the bounty board
that's what i said lol
Are wilders really friend with lbs?
I remember it says they only care about yggdrasil, they only ally with lbs for the shake of it
i don't see why they wouldn't be. they're both altruistic.
imo it would makes sense if lightberars and wilders were at least allies. graveborn and maulers are much more hostile than them and lightbearers and wilders both try to work to a positive cause rather than just themselves
I am curious how a union story would go
@desert whale Eironn (Wilder) was tutored by Thane (Lightbearer), Brutus (Mauler), and Arden (Wilder).
interesting
sounds about right.
They changed the dragon slayer story
no more beep dragon
Also no more vurk climbing dragons and shooting them in the eye ówò
Dragonslayer union story was too good they had to nerf it
I'll grab some food then read it
Ngl I'm a little bit
Nothing changed in warek lore
The old lore make vurk sound like a jerk. I like the new one better
But there's one thing I need to ask
How is vurk the same height as saveas?
Maybe one is sitting down? I haven’t gotten around to reading the new union lore.
Warek’s retcon seems ...calculated. The story is fundamentally unchanged but the details are vaguer and the bears are still enslaved rather than Warek earning his people’s freedom already. This helps Tidus’ lore fit a little better since if Warek were already free, that means Tidus has failed his goal of killing Warek, but that seems too insignificant to warrant such a drastic change in the fate of the bear clans. I’m thinking more pit fighters are in the works
Also, regarding yesterday’s wilder and LB conversation, wilders mostly keep to themselves. Recall that where they live is protected by a glamor that keeps them hidden, and it is a general unspoken rule to not leave the safety of the forest. Of course, adventurer characters like Eirron, Kaz, Lorsan, and (technically, based on Dolly’s tavern gossip) Solise have left, but the lore makes it clear that leaving is a big deal. Yggdrasil itself is rumored to have been planted by Dura to give the Wilders a safe haven. This implies that the other factions, including ancestral LBs, weren’t all that friendly to them.
They could be saving the slave revolt for Story missions
I can dream can't I?
I like that idea
Have past story missions advanced the story or recounted existing events? Some seem to be “contemporary” but they don’t really move the story forward
it's annoying that they put gorvo as part of a new union and legit no one ever has him
_>
Unions seem created mainly for lore than mechanics honestly
Which isn't bad. More lore = good
no mechanics = people irritated
Yeah. I’m glad Gretel Hawk has a bigger part in the new union lore. Previously, she was just someone who was quoted
+100
So,
Re: Talene's backstory
Are Obsidian Finches non-anthro birds?
I think so
Question. When are we gonna meet Dolly's father?
How did I miss that? Most likely skipped him in the process of rereading everything.
how is Rigby so,,,, rotund and dolly is so petite
Corset?
metabolism rly be like that sometime
those things are so uncomfortable
there's this woman that's obsessed with wearing a corset
how can one even breathe at that point?
its likely they dont paekfpoaekfaekae
wat 
Depends on the corset tbh and how well it's made
also who still wears corsets in the 21st century 


lots of people do lol

they call them "shapewear" these days.
Corsets are great for cosplaying
uncomfortable.
It depends on the wearer
Some girls can't even stand wearing a bra or panty but some girls sleep with corsets on
yeah because not everyone is a stick
Corsets aren't only for thin people
Look at Queen Victoria
She's definitely not a size 0
My sibling wears corsets and they're far from a stick
damn just looked her up
did someone say THICC
someone said one that i look like a size 0
then someone else said that im thicc
like 
ppl will call anyone that doesnt fit the heroin chic aesthetic thicc have u seen kpop fans calling their 100 lb fave girl thicc
I want to work on an AU, who is willing to work with me
Synopsis: In this AU Annih releases a daemon that manifests in the form of a desert separating the Maulers, Lightbearers, and Wilders. The daemon brings out the most destructive traits of the factions, causing them to war. Eventually, the Wilders and Lightbearers ally, but the Maulers have been especially corrupted by the desert of the daemon. So basically Wilder and LB ally against Mauler but to dispel the daemon and erase the desert separating them, the factions must stop warring and ally.
Picture:
Q. Why are wilders weak vs maulers
From lore reasons, yea i guess lightbearer formations should beat an unorganized mauler rabble, wilder life energy can beat deathly graveborn, sp00ky graveborn can corrupt lightbearer, but why is mauler good vs wilder?
Just my guess, but you can imagine Savage animals destroying the forrest 
Also to make a cycle of advantage
Also a tribe of nature, prefer peace and hiding, can be more vulnerable to those savage than the rest i think
Drought and desertification destroying forests?
u saying maulers are desertifiying the forest when they fight
what
maulers may live in the desert, but they dont control it
and savage animals are the very essence of nature
which should be the wilder's domain
the primal and wild force that makes up nature
How about canivore and herbivore
Altho some of the wilders are cani, but just pretend that
It might be that wilder's are gentler in nature which contrasts the violent ways of the maulers
Oh heck I almost forgot I made a height chart for all the mauler men. This is based almost entirely on speculation tho and comparing the sprites. Like the entire thing is centered around saveas who I thought looked around 6' so this was just for fun mostly lol
Made this a while back to see who fought brutus in the lore
And made this to assert baden's dominance
I choked on my yogurt when I read “assert Baden’s dominance”
@wanton pollen Dolly has literally said that Wilders are gentler and softer in nature, while Maulers are ruthless and savage .
Yea, but does necessarily mean wilders are weaker against them?
An unyielding blade is easily broken
Pure power doesnt mean it automatically beats softer tactics
And besides, look at gorvo and Sirius
Not gentle in the slightest
And kaz is a deadly assassin
While on the mauler side, skreg took mercy on an iron jaw in a moment of pity
So you want Wilders to be stronger than Maulers or nah? It's also the game mechanic which forms a cycle unless you come up with better idea i believe it's the best option for the game.
Canonically it's because the Wilders are intimidated by their brutish ways iirc
I don't remember where I read it but I've been through almost every lore section in the game, I'll have to find it again.
Personally, I think that it makes sense. A peaceful, analytical opponent can easily be bumrushed by a blind idiot with nothing but bloodthirst.
I'm a boxer in real life which is a fairly calculated martial art, but if a drunk dude was running at me with a knife, I'd probably be really intimidated and a single moment of hesitation to think about what the best move is could be costly.
And it seems that because of the whole predator prey thing, that's likely going to be the usual outcome.
i agree. i think the faction advantage circle makes sense, except for Hypogeons and Celestials doing more damage to each other, but ig there's not really any other way to do it lol
celes and hippos are like natural enemies so it actually makes sense
hippos lol
Think of the factions as the standard rpg phone game type or power charts
Lightbearers = water
Maulers = fire
Wilders = earth
Gravebornes = thunder
Water -> Fire -> Earth -> Thunder -> Water
And like how Light <-> Dark
Celestials <-> Hippopotamus
Water-fire-earth-thunder?
sobs in avatar the last airbender
Hippo?
Same luna
Oh I like that this is becoming a meme
I like how their names Celestials and Hypogeans just means Heaven and Underworld
Whut so "hypogean" was not a made-up thing?
nope
holy smokes
Hypo means below or under
Gean (derived from Gaea) means earth
Hypogean basically means below earth
Nice. yeah I searched it the second I saw it. Seems fitting when I think about it now.
Works on the same principle as the scientific name for the peanut
🥜 Arachis hypogaea 🥜
Demon nuts
slightly bothered that it sounds like an off-brand mashup of "Arachin" and "Hypogean", now that i thought it through.
why?
I read that "Arachis hypogaea" as *ARACHNID hypogea" and died a little bit at the thought of demonic underworld spiders. Thanks for the nightmare fuel 
I understand the need a 4 faction elements square thing
But I just think the reasoning for this particular interactions is bad
Especially since several wilders are rage filled brutes and skregg is pretty tame
There used to also be something in wareks lore about how he would intentionally spare the people he faced in the arena in an act of mercy, only injuring them instead of killing them, which is how he built the rebellion that also used to be mentioned. Tho his lore was retconned so that probably means this isnt canon anymore lol
Retconned by what?
@dusk light they rewrote warek's and the dragon slayers union's lores
Wait you're supposed to pronounce anih as ah-nai? I'VE BEEN CALLING HIM A-NEAR THIS WHOLE TIME
pretty sure it's pronounced in the opening animation. @leaden bloom
@wanton pollen i think it's just you. it makes sense to the rest of us. 🤷♀️
Me, over here pronouncing it as ah-nih

rip
Cool
Took me minutes to try having ideas
Now they’re all gone
Funny
Very funny
I’m sorry for it
Late to the party, but on a related note to “hypogean” being a pre-existing word, did you know Cthulhu comes from the word chthonic (which, like hypogean, also means subterranean)?
Also, one of Ezhih’s dialogue lines in his hero menu pronounces Annih’s name. It’s pronounce the same way as the beginning of the word “Annihilate”, which may be where the spelling came from
I thought since Dura was Spanish I thought Annih was, too
Then I thought "no way they called the god of the underworld "annie" "so I called him "a-neer"
lmao nope
Shemira divorced niru and sang beyonces all the single ladies >.>
and still had Niru basically kill her so the family could be brought back together.
still a better love story than Twilight 
Now they're like king and queen of the Boneyard
The wilders have their own Wakanda
Do they know de wae?
Do the common heroes not have any lore around them?
Ulric appears as an underling to Hogan and Lucius in peaks of time cutscenes sometimes
Dreaf is god
All hail
Keep doing that and see how far you can go with only common heroes
be curious to see that and then to see only legendaries.... including fielding a short team if you dont have enough
That’s what I’m doing
Not much farther than this, but it is funny blowing 1000+ diamonds on elite equipment
ahem Please keep this channel strictly towards the lore of AFK Arena. 🙂
Are Aus aloud
because I was making an Au for afk arena x Pokemon and that got deleted
AUs are allowed, I'm not sure who deleted it.
As long as it pertains to AFK Arena in your AU.
Yea it was about Rowan being a flying type gym leader and Eironn as a duel type gym leader grass and ice)
Im still pissed who deleted it
I recall seeing it before it got deleted, it may have been seen as "spam" for the amount of line breaks.
Possibly condensing it, throwing some background story and stuff will keep it from being seen as low-effort.
Lmao I was actually working on the opposite with turning pokemon into afk characters. Like incineroar as a mauler and gardevoir as a wilder
Im making another au where they’re all like pokemon and stuff
The summary:
It was a peaceful day at the kingdom,Rowan the Sirfetch’d of Princess Petra,The Lilligant of all,has been walking around the village,wearing his t-shirt that has a tie,a vest,a leather hat to cover the sunlight for his eyes,with brown pants and leather boots,he was looking around the village to find a gift for the Princess,til he saw this poster,he picked it up it said
Wanted!
Poisonous Rose has been making the people sick from the poison swords they held,He wears a Green tuxedo and has a blonde hair that is tied as a bun,a green mask,horns,and weapons that are the poisonous roses in the world
If you got him you’ll be awarded
300,000 diamonds
He was curious about this “Poisonous Rose”
When he put the poster on his pocket,he saw them,he ran to them and when he went to the spot they were in,
They were gone
NEW FACTION
👀👀
will they turn into the hero they're fused with, though?
also i thought arthur was a lightbearer lol

Seems like dimensional heroes will be
ugh
like, crossover or something with legends
how would they fit in the advantage/disadvantage chart??
like what are they strong or weak to?
do hypos and celestials turn into a triangle?
hypos and celestials work fine with that
will their team benefit work like celestials?
oh wait
arthur was originally a lb
so did they just change it then?
woah thats wacky

Truth
So now you can get raine to A so you can sacrifice to arthur

I wonder if they have the emblem in the game already
I'll look after work
is this where fancharacter stuff goes? I get very confused on that xox
but i'm drawing a partner for my lightbearer hero/bandit :3
i love them
Thank you uwu,,
Roadhog and junkrat pirate day
Arthur Pendragon 👀
Who and what now,,
Also how dare you these are highwaymen not pirates, thats like 70% land
Oh yeah, what happen to the winners of Hero Concept, did they mention it going to be in game. or was that just a way for the dev to get new Ideas?
just new ideas
I'm so mad I missed that contest I would have loved to join T-T
I know some people don't like new heroes to the pool but I really love getting new heroes, like Talene is gorgeous
a new hero?
already? and another lightbearer? geez, the LB hero pool is too saturated.
i'm aware
Dimensional and arthur sounds inspired by Fate the more I think about it
As long as they stay relatively loyal to their original depiction, I'm okay with it
It'll be a breath of fresh air compared to bikini gandhi
Is Niru Shemira's husband or what??
He was and probably still is. Dk bout undead marriage
reminds me, we need a lawyer character in AFK
hypogean lawyer, of course
i think they're divorced or something
but ugh if you think about it
if dimensional heroes are legend inspired
then WuKong might be a dimensional hero as well
Nah they're still together. And they do a lot of cute couple thing
like slay any hypogean infidels who dare breathe near them (except for the 3 good ones)
Like gifting each others tortured souls
that too
I don't think the 3 hypogean are good guys
they aren't "good," they're "uneasy allies"
I like to think that mehira is an ally because she likes fawkes
there's no "good" and "bad" because who you call "bad" actually thinks he's "good"
insert Kappa emoji
Hah
i was right, no adv or disadvantage
celes and hippos has advantage over eachother is because they are eachother's natural enemy. Letting dimensional in as a triangle just doesnt really make sense
So basicly new faction is isekai from our world?
tbh i love the idea that wukong may be dimensional
i felt like neither celestial nor mauler fit him perfectly
@faint yoke uhmm who's that in your DP?
Can Someone show me what Faction bonus do Dimensionals give
That they have no factional disadvantage
I mean the formation one
They have no factional disadvantage. They have no advance over any faction and no faction has advance over them
@buoyant pumice ice shemira
I know that, What I'm asking if they have their own Faction Formation Bonus(The ones in the Upper corners in Battle), are they Counted to any Non-Hypogean Faction like Celestial do, or Do they Also have their Own Bonus like the Hypogeans do?
@faint yoke Thanks
No idea
new faction is literally Fate series, next Dimensional hero will be Archer

You can't be serious

This is Tasi's antics! It sucks!
I have a question: Is tasi an alien or an isekai character? She came from another dimension
a fairy.
She and Ezizh are from the Realm of Dreams, which I would say is another Plane, rather than another dimension
how does this games lore handle planes vs dimensions?
There's Esperia, the Realm of Dreams, the Celestial Realm, and the Underworld/World of the Dead
They all regularly influence each other and denizens can travel from one plane to another in certain cases
I'm assuming the new Dimensional faction would come from a dimension that had no prior contact with the AFK world, but that's to be seen
Arthur's lore said he had never heard of any Esperia stuff so I would say the dimensions stuff is all separate
What is the name of the barmaiden girl?
Why assuming when the official site has already posted this
Because technically Ezizh and Tasi are other-dimensional beings too, but they were involved with esperia before they crossed over
How about Zolrath? He have similarities with Dr Strange
Only in the fact that both can "control" time








