lol
#lineup-help
raw rune
urban cobalt
And we have a week difference.
stuck trellis
@raw rune post your heroes
urban cobalt
For the first time in this game, I lost to wrizz today!
raw rune
f
pale kettle
What PvE team can I do with those ? I'm stuck at 21-4
@urban cobalt your nick is true xD
raw rune
i always have lucius merc, but I've heard saurus +30 is the best
urban cobalt
@pale kettle Thanks.
Wriz wasn't impossible or a anything. I just missed the timing and didn't pause the button before dying. And Wriz went away!
stuck trellis
lucius
rosa
fawkes/tasi
mirael
arden
@raw rune
pale kettle
Can u crate team for me to beat him? I tried like 10 times and i cant
urban cobalt
Can u crate team for me to beat him? I tried like 10 times and i cant
@pale kettle Show me your relics.
pale kettle
I can take 30% of his health, then he heal to full and takes no dmg from me, but he can almost oneshot my team
urban cobalt
No, just post the pic.
urban cobalt
No. Not that relic, I mean the Lab relics.!
pale kettle
Lab? Im 10-4
main idol
whats a good line up for 10-21
urban cobalt
@pale kettle it looks like this.
pale kettle
Aaaaaah
stiff crown
6-17 is proving to be very difficult for me
main idol
whats an overall good comp is chapter 10 to 11
stiff crown
Woah
pale kettle
@main idol where you at ?
main idol
10-26
pale kettle
@urban cobalt i posted
main idol
@pale kettle yea rn im like 10 off from 11
urban cobalt
@pale kettle I noticed. tbh, you used high cc to get this far. But it doesn't work on wrizz. I don't think you can beat him with your current team. But maybe, try this:
Nemora
Lucuis
Khasos
Lucretia
Rosaline
If it doesn't work, try Diamon instead of Lucretia.
Also, you have until tomorrow evening. So maybe, afk and levelup your carry and try again tomorrow @pale kettle
pale kettle
Ikr thats why Im waiting@urban cobalt
raw rune
wait really no rowan @stuck trellis ?
do you remember how you beat 11-20 btw @urban cobalt
urban cobalt
@raw rune Same as you. But Brutus instead of Hawks.
raw rune
;; gimme brutus already
urban cobalt
And he's not even in his prime (lv141) lol
urban cobalt
@raw rune No he's immortality time almost doubles at 141. Just enough time for a carry to ult upto 2 times! Even more, if you have a 2nd tank (lucius) or Rosa.
urban cobalt
I'm not using autocorrect. I'm on pc lol.
jaunty ledge
lone shale
@hollow hatch I don't really have equipment for 1/3rd of these guys and I focused on what you might call a Boomer Lineup. Would you think Est and Gwyn are viable now? I'm kinda focusing on building Rowan, Eironn, and the Twins really. SORRY FORGOT PIX
hollow hatch
All 3 of those are quite good, just a different team than Gwyn and Estrilda
lone shale
My apologies, I hate how I kinda forget the picture button, but I just think my guys are kinda stinky, mostly for PVE missions, and steamrolling to 30.
hollow hatch
So a good lineup for campaign would look like
Fereal
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Lyca
A few of those characters need work on signature items, mostly Rowan to 30 and fereal/Lyca to 20
But other than that you’re good
lone shale
I think Lyca is 20 already, but Fareal I always had issues with. Anyway thanks.
If only I wasn't stupid enough to build Shem to +30. But dang it all
hollow hatch
The team with Gwyn and Estrilda I was talking about earlier usually looks something like this
Rosaline
Estrilda
Gwyneth
Arthur
Fereal or Lyca
lone shale
Arthur
...He always concerned me when I used him, never seemed as Tanky as I wanted him to be. Plus investing in Dimensionals is expensive.
hollow hatch
Oh also you really need Gwyn to SI 20 for that or she doesn’t do enough damage
lone shale
I figured as much. Well dang, but thanks at least for giving me ideas on how to build the actual meta for now.
hollow hatch
Tbh Arthur is a great tank, maybe it’s cuz he got turned around in which case he’d die fast yeah
ocean night
Does anyone of you know a list or a picture in which lineups Ezio fits in good? Pvp and campaign would be cool. Or maybe name some
gleaming sparrow
Hiya, I have these heroes at the moment and just want to know what would be a good team to try and level and progress with for now, ive seen how good Shemira is from some YouTube videos as well as Lucius just don't know what else to focus on, any help is appreciated
pale kettle
What PvE team can I do with those ?
warm swan
@gleaming sparrow Use Wukong until 100ish and make sure he is 20-40 levels above the rest of your team. He will be your carry. Focus on getting fodders and getting L-tier heroes to L+. Also, might want to ditch Shem, because you got Daimon. Also, read the pins.
primal jasper
I'm getting killed very hard here, anti mage comp and I only have mages xd
raw rune
do you have fawkes if you do try him, replace estrilda
cerulean lynx
Ooof how to fight this lol. Double vedan
amber halo
How do I clear divine realm??
dusty wadi
Hey, ive cleared this chapter without a single problem but currently im hardstuck here. I can barely deal any damage. Can someone help me out?
vast meadow
@dusty wadi put shemira in front instead of belinda. You can replace numisu to lyca
thin wind
Any tips?
dusty wadi
@vast meadow i tried it but unfortunatly no setup works
mint viper
Is this possible for me? I can get enemies kinda low until Nemora just heals them back to full
pale kettle
Try
Fawkes/tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Arden
Should i up saurus if i can take him to L+?
Unless you don't have a carry yet or need him for lvl cap I'd wait and see who you can ascend first
I’m kinda stuck and my carry rn is mirael
Do you have eironn on wishlist? If not, put him in
Mirael is good until you can make someone else 180
I do have eiron on wishlist
I guess I’m questioning my comp bc I’m stuck here now
Tasi
Lucius
Rowan
Mirael
Rosa
Rosa will follow lucius btw
Then reset him and make mirael 160
And keep Lucius under her power
does rowans positioning matter? or can i use him as a frontline
Depends on his level/ascension/gear. He's one of the best tanks for me
hes currently 4s with full mythic gear, only 200 though
Probably best to just try it out
compact breach
Anyone have the solution for 31-56???? 😭 😭 😭 😭
pale kettle
Thanks for all the help joy
but does his positioning matter though? like can he give everyone an energy boost still or only for people around him? and does he give everyone potions or not?
In the middle he reaches everyone, when he's frontline the person in the opposite corner won't be in range
Unless it's melee that walks into his range
would
rosaline
lucius
shemira
rowan
bellina
work?
Sounds really bad 😸
2 carries is really bad at your level. Better put in more cc/support instead of either Belinda or Shem
nemora is my alternative
Even tasi or Fawkes at elite would be better
got a L+ fawkes, guess that works
For sure
only use fawkes against brutus tbh, screws him over completely
but would the positioning work? assuming that i replace shem with fawkes @pale kettle
If your Belinda is 240 she's probably tankier than rowan and Lucius at 200
yeah, thats what ive been doing kekw
im currently trying to get my shemira to 240, for crystal
But there's not like a cookie cutter lineup for lb. Sometimes you will have to frontline rosa instead of Lucius or belinda etc...
wait nvm my rowan was 240, mistook him for another char 😂
But there's not like a cookie cutter lineup for lb. Sometimes you will have to frontline rosa instead of Lucius or belinda etc...
especially in tower, gotta change frontlines all the time
any recommended lineups?
valid hamlet
Having trouble with campaign now. Do you guys have suggestion on a general go-to line up? I’ve asked several times but no luck in this channel
wooden oyster
Having trouble moving up the lvl, appreciate your help
charred topaz
do i replace wukong
raw rune
used 5 out of 10 of my 6 hour hero xp stuff to get the lower 4 from 119 to 120, and mirael from 140 to 141,which i think was worth it honestly as i was able to beat 11-20
pale kettle
should i?
upper flint
No! Never use Ascend Heroes as Food
pale kettle
lineup help pls
urban salmon
@compact breach try this. R2 had a pretty low win rate need to pray the stars align so that vedan doesnt end up killing gwyn. 31-56 is imo the worst stage in ch31. Goodluck
pale kettle
Hi fellas, any advice?
glad bay
Rate my line up, plz let me know if I need to do any changes
smoky valley
Need help
faint current
@glad bay Theres a super helpful guide in #classic-questions in the pins I highly recommend checking out. It covers levels 1-160
mellow kestrel
Anyone mind giving me a hand in pvp Def haven't updated it in a while
urban salmon
@smoky valley try this
faint current
@raw rune Imo when in doubt, use a Merc. Otherwise you end up never using one and wasting the opportunity
pale kettle
LineUp 2 idk
faint current
Looks potentially pretty close. I’d probably give that a bunch of retries if that was my main.
raw rune
ok ill retry
faint current
Or could push PoT/KT
raw rune
so glad i didn't merc
I've already maxed PoT
and kt is pretty hard atm pretty sure it's almost all ascended
faint current
raw rune
yep all ascended
faint current
That does not look fun
faint current
As your hero pool grows you’ll get more options
faint current
Got some nice options though. Mehira is pretty useful at E where you’re at, as I’m sure you noticed since she’s in crystal
Same with tasi/Lyca
Have you tried Tasi instead of Lucius?
raw rune
yeah she has uses but most of the time she's too weak
tasi way too squishy
lyca occasionally has use thanks to haste and defense lower
faint current
Ah
raw rune
the problem with mehira is that she can survive for quite a bit sometimes, and gives +30% defense, but she basically has no team synergy so it doesn't work much
faint current
I was just thinking about the survivability from bats, hypo def bonus, and her ult pretty much instant winning
raw rune
never won a game for me lol, just helped
faint current
As the person in the drivers seat you can see better than I can if she’s doing anything helpful for you
raw rune
yea, like with tasi
like, on my recent test server account, tasi is actually clutch with sleep and she can take reasonable hits, but that's only at like stage 5? and this is stage 11 so the power creep is real
she was also clutch earlier on with sleep on this account
faint current
Rowan in front and Lucius back is already doing better for you than Lucius front Rowan back?
raw rune
i mean lucius is e rowan is e+
his immunity is soo great and i think he has a small bit of dodge
faint current
Yeah I just wasn’t sure it outweighed the heal from his pots that early since he can’t heal himself. Pushing the way you are im sure you tested it enough already though.
raw rune
yea usually he survives just enough or even more than enough, unless it's saveas lol
whereas lucius just slowly dies at the front and never gets his ult off
whereas at the back he can most of the time get it off
faint current
Interesting. I never pushed this hard that early so idk the dynamics
raw rune
lol I've played for a bit over 2 weeks
earlier today had to use 5 6 hour hero exp to progress from 11-20
i can show you difference
first one is rowan front, second one is lucius front annoyingly the 2nd one worked better it's usually the other way around
ohh nvm that was lucius front the first one i think
final shoal
atomic lodge
wooden oyster
Hi guys, should I use talene or Brutus in this comp
Feel like Brutus died too quick. I might have done something wrong
raw rune
you should remove that 2nd brutus from the crystal btw @wooden oyster it's a waste of a crystal slot use it for something more useful
pale kettle
@final shoal Lyca, Rowan, Tasi, Eironn and Ferael
wooden oyster
I see, okok, but is Brutus supposed to die like dem quick? Or did I do something wrong oO
raw rune
also just level wu kong as much as possible at this point (get him to lv100 asap) @wooden oyster the others don't matter as much, you can aim for faction bonuses on him
Once you get him to lv100 and he's not doing enough work then you start changing him to something else
and that's where the other teammates matter a lot more than they do when you can use wu kong
wooden oyster
Okok, btw what u meant on aim for faction bonuses on him
raw rune
these, not specifically the ones i have but the ones there
wooden oyster
I see, okok thanks
smoky valley
@urban salmon didnt work 😔
raw rune
you could aim for the 5 faction bonus though
mild geyser
faction bonus isnt important
twilit wharf
I’ve been getting stuck a lot and I made multiple mistakes as a rookies. Is there any way I can salvage this or should I just leave it and focus on a new account?
woeful haven
wooden oyster
Dem I just found out talene is really op, or am I wrong, does she actually nvr die? She is so useful in peaks of time
wooden oyster
@raw rune this is my current line up, took your advice on the 5 faction Bonus thing, great help
rare bay
Anyine able to help me I'm on chapter 10 40
sleek ingot
This print of yours is chapter 10, i'm on 16...
sturdy kiln
Brutus and lyca destroy me
ancient hound
@sturdy kiln usually you want a LB vs Brutus in low level. On higher levels Tasi/Lyca also works. I suggest:
Eironn
< Rowan
Tasi
< Lucius
Lyca
But you could also swap Lucius/ Rowan a bit
rare bay
Anyone able to help please I'm really stuck
ancient hound
@rare bay could you post a screenshot of the battle and your heroes, like the post I just responded to?
ancient hound
@sleek ingot you really need to get Rowan. You're using your best heroes there, so I can only recommend to switch around a bit and experiment
sleek ingot
I know, but i think this dude really hates me, i cant found a single copy of him.
I can put Eironn, Tasi or Lyca on Myth rn
But i dont know who would be better
rare bay
I've posted a pic of battle and heroes
ancient hound
@rare bay be careful ascending to L. Try only to L+. Read the pinned messages in #classic-questions for explanation. Recommending:
Belinda
< Lucius
Rowan
< Antandra
Tasi/Lyca/Silvina/Estrilda
Experiment a bit with the 5th slot. Try to kill the enemies at position 3 & 5 (corner backline) first. They're pretty strong.
ancient hound
@sleek ingot always ascend carries first; so Eironn or Lyca. Would depend on how many extra copies of both of them you have
@rare bay I just suggested a line-up lol
sleek ingot
I can only put them on myth, not ascend. I only have two weeks in the game, so i'm kind noob
ancient hound
Yes, I mean you should get Eironn or Lyca to Mythic, depending on how close you are to ascending them. If you have more Eironn copies, get Eironn to Mythic. Otherwise Lyca. Without extra copies it's risky to get them to M or M+, as they can be stuck there for a long time, whereas you then might lack fodder to upgrade another Wilder hero to ascended
sturdy kiln
@ancient hound thanks, I’ll try
sleek ingot
I dnt have any extra copies of them, only one copy of Tasi. The heroes that i'm close to ascend is Belinda, Shemira and Brutus.
raw rune
glad i could help @wooden oyster
mild geyser
Any ideas? Trying to beat chapter 24
ancient hound
Don't ascend Brutus, he's fine at where he is... it's bad luck that you drop him so much, but really not worth investing in. Belinda is a decent carry, but also don't invest too much. Max +10 SI.
After all, it's a game of patience. So you probably should wait for better ascension options @sleek ingot
sleek ingot
OK. Tnx bro.
Yeah, i think it was bad luck too on brutus. Other is Numisu, i dont think he is good at all either
ancient hound
He (Numisu) is good in late-game for tower, but not as one of the first ascended. Tidus is probably the only decent low-level Mauler. And Safiya too, but she can easily be replaced by other carries
@mild geyser How does your Lyca do into Athalia? she survive sometimes?
mild geyser
im pretty sure pretty bad but ill give it a shot
Ezios inconsistent against athalia so I’m not sure how she will fare
ancient hound
Um yea.. looking at the power difference 1.5M vs 5.7M I'd say you're pretty much at your cap tbh @mild geyser
But if something would work, I'd say:
Daimon
< Rowan
Tasi
< Lyca
Nara
sleek ingot
@ancient hound i can ascend Belinda rn, do you think its worth?
ancient hound
Well, rule-of-thumb is 3x your own powerlevel is max. And if enemy is below 2x your powerlevel, you're slacking 😉
cerulean cedar
quick question: Should I invest in Saurus or someone else? (I'm on Stage 8-9)
mild geyser
Tasi banishes daimon so I had Nara hit tasi to prevent banish
ancient hound
@cerulean cedar Saurus is good at every stage of the game. Not a bad option if he drops
cerulean cedar
Ok thank you
wooden oyster
Hai guys, anyone know what's that yellow stuff up there?
tawny elk
So...i am not that great at building teams for the legend's challenger tournament so i thought i could ask here. Especially with all the new dimensionas i lost track of the "meta". Would appreciate any help :)
ancient hound
@sleek ingot No, you won't be able to utilize the extra levels. And ascension in itself doesn't give such a huge boost, compared to what it costs for early game. Wait with ascending until you need to, level-wise.
pale kettle
I got flora recently should I change anything?
ancient hound
Hai guys, anyone know what's that yellow stuff up there?
@wooden oyster That's where you come OUT of the portal. You go in it at another place 🙂
wooden oyster
Ouh lmao oO
ancient hound
@tawny elk search google for PvP arena comps AFK arena. I'm sure you'll find better explanation. I'll give the short one here:
Build one team around Wilders/ Eironn
Another team around dimensionals/ Ainz
And one around Graveborn/ Daimon
You can use Saf in Eironn comp, Ferael with Daimon, Ezio with Ainz
sleek ingot
My Tasi managed to survive the early game somehow and ult. From that Shemira would be able to ult herself and survive because of Talene. Luck as shtt forr this one..
ancient hound
Nice 🙂
tawny elk
Alright. I'll give it another try. Found some but always missed a key hero so i figured i'd just ask. Thanks @ancient hound
pale kettle
I got flora recently should I change anything?
@pale kettle help? I'm very bad at lineups
sleek ingot
Passed chap 16 uhuul
ancient hound
@tawny elk well, if you have a more specific question, I'd be glad to help. But like.. outlining all possible PvP comps, I feel like you can do most of that by browsing 🙂
foggy grove
Can someone help me with this without mercs? I tried safiya but she dies before her passive is activated
ancient hound
@pale kettle help? I'm very bad at lineups
@pale kettle No, Flora doesn't change much to the game, until you get her geared & ascended
@foggy grove who does Silvina target?
pale kettle
Ok
tawny elk
@tawny elk well, if you have a more specific question, I'd be glad to help. But like.. outlining all possible PvP comps, I feel like you can do most of that by browsing 🙂
@ancient hound I might need your help again then but for now i'm going to check if i can at least make 1-2 comps work :)
foggy grove
@ancient hound I think either talene or Rowan, couldn’t tell. She targets safiya if I put her on instead of lyca
ancient hound
@foggy grove I would try:
Eironn
< Rowan
Lyca
< Talene
Tasi
Let me know how that goes and if u can see who Silvina targets
foggy grove
@ancient hound Rowan
ancient hound
So, does Eironn die too soon? Shem get ult off? What's the difficulty of the stage?
foggy grove
Seems more difficult than previous stages, Shem does ult but by then most of my team are already dead
Eiron dies before ulting sometimes
ancient hound
What about Pippa instead of Talene? And try to make sure Eironn pulls Silvina off her target
foggy grove
Silvina basically kills pippa immediately, with talene eiron can pull silvina
Looks like I might need merc for this, damn
versed cedar
Been truly stuck on this level for days now. Any suggestions?
lost tulip
any team comps suggestion? also could you explain why do you think that team would work? i'd like to know better on how teams/heroes work
pale kettle
Resposting.
Any advices?
raw rune
are any of these useful for voyage of wonders to put in crystal because i kinda need at least one or i have to wait a while, at stage 6-23 currently
oh you're doing great @lost tulip that team looks fine just keep levelling the other 4 fodder until cap
cerulean cedar
Idrk cuz I'm only mid game too but defo Ferael and maybe Arden
Try to get Arden to Elite tho, and Silvina should be a priority
raw rune
arden is already on the team, and you're early game not mid game, and so am I
raw rune
mid game is like chapter 24,also this is my 2nd account (test account on test server) this is what my main looks like
cerulean cedar
raw rune
huh lol
royal thorn
Do i even have a chance of beating this? Doesn’t feel possible rn
pale kettle
Put daimon frontline and replace Brutus with arden
versed cedar
@spare lava Maybe try to replace Shem with Belinda and Gorvo with Lucius
royal thorn
Any other suggestions? I have tried lyca with arden, call on arden. No shot getting arden to root first
raw rune
dangg
pale kettle
Advice?
marsh nymph
Help pls, been stuck on the chapter for almost 2 weeks now
cerulean cedar
Need help (I have to beat this with 3 Wilders because it's the 1st Secrets of the Forest boss)
marsh nymph
@cerulean cedar there's a trick for that when I did that, u take heroes u don't use much thats leveled, (no wilders). Make it strong enough for it to kill a few enemies like 2 or 3, but also weak enough where they all die after killing em. Then take ur wilder team to finish it off. Watch volkins vid, he explains it better if u want
cerulean cedar
Tried that, even when my Lucius isn't dead they all flop
wooden oyster
Heya guys, may I know which choice is recommended for the chest?
raw rune
personally i reset until i got a wilder adversary, and used 3 of my own wilders, and a strong merc, that's how i beat it
pale kettle
Advice?
royal thorn
Any other ideas here? Usually able to max arden haste and root first. But apparently not this time
marsh nymph
@pale kettle reset lucretia and put her in the crystal. Put the levels into niru so ur lvl cap won't be 100. Then try the formation again
bright sigil
Any tips?
royal thorn
Anything? Can’t get arden to root first. Tried lyca+call. Just doesn’t want to happen
mild geyser
You gotta do arden + call @royal thorn
pale kettle
mild geyser
Charm ferael
twilit wharf
I’m stuck and I think I’ve capped but I’m not sure. Should I keep this account or leave it and spend time on another one?
mild geyser
Don’t ascend to L if you can’t l+ ascended tier heroes
pale kettle
@mild geyser my comp only survives for 18 seconds, nemora wont charm him so he just dies damage and nara dies to fast
mild geyser
What’s stopping nemora from charming him?
royal thorn
You gotta do arden + call @royal thorn
@mild geyser That’s what i meant, using lyca and call on arden for max haste. Not enough
royal thorn
He instantly dies, no chance to root
mild geyser
I don’t think he can’t instantly die there unless ur daimon dies
royal thorn
Apparently he can
mild geyser
Watch closely and see what hits him
royal thorn
Either arden root or ogi slam, not sure which one
mild geyser
Ogi slam cant hit him. Does Arden have your best gear + call?
royal thorn
Yes
mild geyser
You have to use lyca too
royal thorn
Arden still dies
mild geyser
Lyca + arden with call will out speed other Arden
royal thorn
No it doesn’t. Arden dies
mild geyser
Take a ss of the team your using
royal thorn
mild geyser
Does your arden root enemy Arden?
royal thorn
No, he dies
mild geyser
By ardens roots? I used lyca + arden for a while on those stages and my arden would root enemy Arden before he dies
mild geyser
Yea that’s super weird. I would try to Nara/athalia the arden then
winter raven
Hey can anyone suggest a linup i don't think I have picked the best ones, thanks in advance
royal thorn
Everyone still just dies, guess i gotta gain some power
cerulean cedar
@winter raven idrk but maybe
Belinda
Saurus
Rowan
Brutus
Mirael
winter raven
@tight vessel will try that thank you
plush patrol
Any tips?
solid mango
copper bone
I need help to get 100M. I appreciate any help
dapper crescent
try not to make heroes L if u dont have enough copies to make them L+ cus u might be wasting fooder and u might not need belinda as u already have Shemira is ur damage dealer
U usually go for 1 tank, 1 damage dealer, 3 supports
haughty furnace
Yes Ik this everyone tells me this 24-7
dapper crescent
sry
bright sigil
please help me with 31-4
dapper crescent
im not sure... might just be one of those waiting for hero exp
haughty furnace
U guys should screen shot the battle so people can see who u are facing
bright sigil
did that earlier
versed cedar
Any suggestions for me on 13-18?
haughty furnace
Y do I have so many lvl 2s and 3s
versed cedar
I try to use it to organize. Level 1’s are pure fodder, Level 2’s are unique characters, Level 3’s are who I want to put on the Crystal ahead of others.
raw rune
it honestly doesn't matter, i still have 2 lv2s i haven't reset, it's literally no exp
ah that's quite smart actually, fair enough
if that helps you understand the game more,go for it
haughty furnace
Can people help tho it’s annoying
raw rune
how is it annoying
haughty furnace
Cus no body helps me
raw rune
that's not their problem...
versed cedar
There is a surplus of people asking for help on the channel compared to people who are actually able to give it.
raw rune
and read the room Description, you need to be more specific for more people to be able to help you
charred wyvern
ping me when you can help
haughty furnace
@versed cedar y did u merc Belinda
raw rune
yeah you should remove that actually, return it and get a better one
such as lucius, saurus or Arthur
haughty furnace
Y not a grave cus that’s a light bears weakness
raw rune
factional advantages are irrelevant, don't aim for them
haughty furnace
Oh
stuck trellis
@bright sigil
haughty furnace
Do u know what the prob for this is
raw rune
Well shemira isn't a good carry whatsoever until 161
stuck trellis
if u had daimon u could merc izold and get like 90% winrate on that r1.. makes it a lot less painful. safiya ezizh will be Hella rng
bright sigil
@stuck trellis Im missing Lorsan and Daimon, can i merc them both since theyre on different teames?
charred wyvern
thx for help...
bright sigil
nvm im blind
stuck trellis
@bright sigil lorsan be E
raw rune
the fact that you have l+ wilder fodder is good though @haughty furnace, start trying to get mirael and saveas to l+, to use them as l+ fodder later, also to reach the level cap
outer burrow
Anyone got lineup for 30-60
stuck trellis
haughty furnace
Who are they Safiya is one of them right @raw rune that u said I should get to l+
stuck trellis
@outer burrow might be more rng without good eironn, but still doable
raw rune
nope safiya is a mauler
haughty furnace
Who are the hero’s u were talking about
raw rune
get 5 of these to l+, i mean ira you currently
outer burrow
tyvm ill go get retrying
raw rune
and then mirael or saveas as your carry, both to l+ instead of shemira until 161
so, mirael, hogan, saveas, ira and one from graveborns, show me the rest of your heroes?
haughty furnace
Here @raw rune
mild geyser
@mighty wave https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/773748263073480744/image0.jpg
raw rune
ok so hogan, mirael, ankhira, ira and niru get those all to l+, you already have ira @haughty furnace
mighty wave
what relics are used?
haughty furnace
K thx
raw rune
and make mirael your carry until 161
haughty furnace
161 shemira?
stuck trellis
@mighty wave call eironn tasi lyca fera eye chalice rowan
raw rune
probably should only do mirael once you get her to l+, yeah that's when she becomes usable @haughty furnace
but you might have better options than shemira soon
raw rune
yep he's really really great once you get a decent amount of copies
haughty furnace
Does the wishlist do anything
raw rune
yes, you're almost guaranteed to get something from the wishlist
dapper crescent
increases the rates of the heroes in ur wishlist
haughty furnace
K
stuck trellis
congrats! there are many tasi stages in 30, prepare yourself 
cerulean cedar
Idk if this'll work but here's the stage I'm stuck on- (the Tasi isn't guaranteed every try btw)
(if you can, select "open with BlueStacks")
mild geyser
just take a screen shot
cerulean cedar
ok
gimme a small sec
haughty furnace
@raw rune I need to get my shemira to m
When I get daimon should I replace daimon for drez
Daimon for drez
Daimon for drez
cerulean cedar
After being softened up with my non-wilders
After being softened up with my non-wilders
After being softened up with my non-wilders
After being softened up with my non-wilders
Can't upload my screenshot for some reason
Can't upload my screenshot for some reason
After getting softened up with my non-wilders
My current setup
manic iris
raw rune
only get shemira to m if there's nothing better @haughty furnace just wait
raw rune
use niru, he is the highest ascended, but i mean as fodder not the carry, daimon is probably your best carry for later on atm
but you'll need more copies obviously
haughty furnace
Yea
raw rune
this stage is obnoxious, the bloodsnarl is doing a lot of damage, not annoying aoe but a lot, and survives quite a bit, saveas is doable if i crit him, but khasos and morvus' ults are really threatening but it could be positioning idk
distant river
Should I devolve belinda and raise saveas or mirael to 160? I'm currently at 13-18 (hard push with the help of ainz from around 9-36 / alsoAinz is hooked on belinda right now) Or should i just level the others more? Almost all the time the rest die and ainz has no chance solo.
I usually use front rowan, lucius, back estrilda, rosaline and ainz
but sometimes i change the the lineup with grave-bois, nara, odin, daimon (ainz and lucius is constant)
raw rune
actually no you can probably get belinda to mythic @distant river through mirael but I'd ask someone else first to be sure, might want to max the other fodders first as well
cerulean lynx
I got some empty crystal slots. Any of the heroes I should put in the crystal?
distant river
@cerulean lynx belinda for the atk buff, or estrilda(cc / push back), those seem like good options
raw rune
no belinda is not worth it, don't do that
tasi is worth adding, izold and thoran are maybes, both are cheese tanks
distant river
he already has a pretty solid team with mirael lucius front, tasi, lyca and nemora back
cerulean lynx
I thought thoran needs to have some signature item or something to use his cheese?
vocal sluice
Mirael is a back center hero
raw rune
thoran is still ok but not optimal
vocal sluice
Izold is just gonna insta die,thoran as a raw tank is actually really amazing
distant river
yeah, but he's very early, mirael survives in pve because she is power leveled
vocal sluice
Mirael is one of those squishier carries, and she does better in back middle so her bird hits everyone
raw rune
she can work in front with right support, i usually can't use her in middle, but yes that's optimal
cerulean lynx
Yea I do find her a bit squishy at times even though she is my carry. Thanks for the advice guys. Think I'll slot thoran in
raw rune
he didn't work for me but maybe he will work for you
proud edge
Any ideas? Super close
proud edge
@modern matrix post the matchup
compact breach
@compact breach try this. R2 had a pretty low win rate need to pray the stars align so that vedan doesnt end up killing gwyn. 31-56 is imo the worst stage in ch31. Goodluck
@urban salmon
Hi, thanks for answering, I just saw it. My eziz is too weak to bear..
coral pier
@young spruce Your team is missing supports. Do you have a rowan? Also that belinda isn't doing anything most likely, consider swapping her with arden. Also why is Nara frontline?
young spruce
Dont have rowan nara is front for hook other are for some skills and daimon just to caryy mainly
This is all i got @coral pier
coral pier
@young spruce at least place arden isntead of belinda and put nara backline. Also consider wukong instead of thoran while you still can.
young spruce
Okey il try
scenic surge
Can nemora and tasi be in back line together or is that bad
coral pier
@scenic surge Absolutely. They work very well together, Tasi brings in CC and Nemora brings in healing.
modern matrix
anyone know what I should do?
just scroll up if u dont know what im talking about
coral pier
Nice! @scenic surge
queen path
Hello, im stuckerino :S
coral pier
@modern matrix What team are you using rn, also what positions?
young spruce
@laku om still stuck
raw rune
estrilda is the main problem here, but golus is hard to kill, so I'm having trouble getting any ults off but mirael
coral pier
@queen path Consider something else to replace estrilda, maybe nemora. Play around with positioning.
raw rune
you need at least 4
cerulean cedar
oh
raw rune
unless i misread
cerulean cedar
For mine it says at least 3
modern matrix
Here is my main team, the one I always use which is dumb
raw rune
i know it said something 3 but i remember thinking it meant 4 or more
cerulean cedar
lmao
modern matrix
not sure what to do exactly
raw rune
i guess i could go back to double-check but meh
cerulean cedar
I heard that Brutus's roar can counter Kaz but he just gets slapped every time I run him against them
coral pier
@modern matrix Put Rowan back middle. Replace Izold with Lyca. Make Estrilda frontline and put her to level 120 instead of Izold.
raw rune
nope, i was right :D
modern matrix
alright
cerulean cedar
ah
raw rune
more than 3 i knew i wasnt going crazy lol
cerulean cedar
lmao
vivid harbor
@cerulean cedar I recommend cheesing it by going in with your main team or a team strong enough to kill 3-4 enemies. But, then using a team of 4 wilders to finish them off. Do this only if your wilder heroes are somewhat weak (which was the case for me when I did this trial a while back).
raw rune
i used merc, adversary wilder, and 3 of my own levelled wilders, since i only had 3
vivid harbor
^ that works too. But, my guild is an early game one, so I didn't have that luxury
raw rune
worked after 1 or 2 tries
cerulean cedar
The thing is, my Lucius gets slapped at the second battle and my friends respond to merc applications every like 72 hours (not to mention that they can't get a single hit on the Kaz-es)
raw rune
lucius merc exists, get a good guild @cerulean cedar
vivid harbor
^ that's what I used for the trial
queen path
@coral pier thx now im stuck at the next tho xd
cerulean cedar
k
coral pier
@queen path Such is life
raw rune
what do you think of mine laku #lineup-help message
ionic kestrel
Any recommendations?
pale kettle
Need help plz Dm (boss stage)
coral pier
@raw rune Arden could work better than Fawkes for the time being.
raw rune
so far he hasn't but I'll try again
coral pier
Also does Rosa survive to ult? If not you could replace her with Arden.
raw rune
true, she usually doesn't
modern matrix
The team didnt work is there any other suggestion?
raw rune
hmm... can't get lucius to use his ult i kinda need it
coral pier
@modern matrix What does the team look like right now?
@raw rune Also I don't think mirael can push much above that power cap
raw rune
seems like i need both lucius and rosa to work to beat this
she's not usable in ch12?
just got that exact thing to happen, both got their ults off, was super close, gonna try this formation a few times
pale kettle
If I want to build a team around the twins what should I do?
haughty furnace
Lol @raw rune me and u are on same stage
raw rune
ok
modern matrix
raw rune
you have a lot more ascended heroes and I'm 16 levels lower than you although I'm not sure if that affects anything
haughty furnace
793 DAMAGE
modern matrix
thats what it looks like Laku
umbral shoal
Hi I am quite new to afk and i have reset all my characters, I would like to know which ones are my best as I don't have a great Idea
haughty furnace
Drez Belinda hogan eironn ira shemira lucretia
umbral shoal
Thanks appretiate it
raw rune
don't listen to that, start off with wu kong as your carry @umbral shoal
haughty furnace
He doesn’t have
mild geyser
@umbral shoal https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/774355833139625994/image0.jpg
haughty furnace
Ascend your mirael to e
raw rune
wu Kong is free @haughty furnace ...
ornate ridge
Not anymore
raw rune
huh? wdym
haughty furnace
Nvm he is always free
raw rune
here you go @umbral shoal https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/f8orxw/for_those_who_cant_figure_out_how_to_share/ the other way to get a share is to summon an elite hero and you have to share twice
elfin pendant
Does this formation look okay until i can get fodder up to L+?
raw rune
fodder should be levelled, rest on crystal
haughty furnace
Shouldn’t Rowan be in front line? Or no
hollow hatch
@elfin pendant Swap Belinda to the frontline and Nemora backline. Also Nemora is pretty mediocre, so if you show the rest of your heroes you might have a better hero to use instead of her
Rowan frontline only works later on in the game
Early/midgame he is middle back
raw rune
he's already front in early game for me, I'm chapter 11
hollow hatch
Well you can frontline him and he leaves his cart behind which is pretty nice, but he won't survive on frontline
haughty furnace
Oh
raw rune
he survives enough usually, since lucius shield and flame shield from mirael
dusty wadi
Greetings adventurers, is there anyone out there who could help me pass this horrendous stage?
elfin pendant
Heres all the stuff ive got. I kinda screwed up ascending Belinda and Nemora but i only need one more copy of Belinda to fix this and im trying to get past ch9-20 so i can get the last copy i need of her
hollow hatch
@dusty wadi
Nara
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline
@elfin pendant Looks like Nemora is the best you've got, so same formation I said earlier
elfin pendant
Yeah i linked Ainz to her while i have him so if i need to brute force something with her i will
dusty wadi
That was a really fast death, perhaps my heroes arent good enough for that lineup@hollow hatch
hollow hatch
Try Fawkes instead of Rosaline and see if you can survive long enough
Sometimes it's just need to retry until you get good RNG
dusty wadi
Ive been trying this stage for about 2 hours without any luck, ill try that setup right away!
raw rune
that's how i feel with my current stage but i think even the best luck can't beat it rn
proud edge
Any ideas?
hollow hatch
@proud edge
Rosaline
Belinda
Eironn
Rowan
Lucius
mild geyser
Think I can beat it with my current levels?
raw rune
really close again gdi
hollow hatch
Probably, I'd try pulling Thane instead of tasi with Nara @mild geyser
mild geyser
would i just let tasi banish daimon?
hollow hatch
Yeah, you might interrupt her first banish with Nara, but it's kinda a waste
it's hard to interrupt tasi
you just need to stall them (CC thane) until Daimon is back in the game
mild geyser
athalia seems to big a bigger problem to me cuz once she ults like everyones dead
raw rune
YES rowan's ult clutched it to get the ults of rosa and mirael off at the right time
hollow hatch
Yeah that happens a lot but really all you can do is kill her lol
and Daimon doesn't do burst damage
so Ezio dodge is the next best thing
mild geyser
keep tasi?
hollow hatch
yeah Tasi is really good
mild geyser
thanks ill try it out. If worse comes to worst who would i merc?
nimble fossil
...
pale kettle
Any advices? Been stuck for days
thorn coral
What lineup are you using currently?
modest lotus
@spring surge your the guide maker the famous grub? I need help with a lineup
cerulean cedar
@modern matrix maybe try to use an assasin or a general high-damage troop to kill the Vedan? The rest should be relatively easy
flint vapor
@spring surge i also need help with a lineup. Heard you were the go to guy and your suggested lineups work 100 percent of the time
nimble fossil
Guessing the reason I was skipped over was because I didn't post my box, but even then...anyway, is there any formation I can use?
modern matrix
nope
nimble fossil
..?
cerulean cedar
I personally would go with this (I don't have a lot of experience with team building but-): A fast high-damage unit in slot 2 to take care of Morvus quickly, and hopefully chip some off of Mirael or Fawkes, a tank in Slot 1 against Estrilda, a high-damage in slot 3, Rowan in Slot 4, and a support/healer in Slot 5
thorn coral
Any advice? Can’t beat this
cerulean cedar
Brutus instead of Lyca maybe?
thorn coral
coral pier
@thorn coral Why is your team 5 damage dealers when all the damage you need comes from Shemira? Slot in rowan at least and maybe tasi too if she can survive, you can take out Belinda and Safiya. Place Shemira frontline.
thorn coral
@coral pier Idk much about what formations are good or what hero’s are best at
I’ll give that a try with Rowan and Tasi, I’ve been trying to get rowan copies to build her
Is there a guide on what hero’s are best at? Damage dealers, tanks or supports?
coral pier
Some people do release tier lists, but they don't really offer as much information if you don't know what you are looking at. You should look up endgame teamcomps to understand which heroes work together well so you can begin to plan out a team. But honestly for lategame everyone should have Daimon and Rowan at the very least. @thorn coral
raw rune
really struggling with this one, all of them do a lot of damage except the bloodsnarl so i can't get enough cc in to get the damage in, because if i do hit twice with mirael which happens rarely, and then hit another ult then i can win but that has never happened
and the stun from estrilda and flame shield from mirael doesn't help
thorn coral
@coral pier Thank you
coral pier
👍
faint current
Alright ladies and gents hoping for help with 31-4
coral pier
@faint current Does the first comp ever win?
faint current
@coral pier It...does not
coral pier
I assume Lorsan is in the 2nd comp to be oneshotted by antandra?
surreal echo
Hey everyone. I need some guidance.. My account 28 days in. Chapter 15-36. I spent all faction scrolls in Lightbearer, coz I was thinking to go Bellinda LB mid game and then transition to Eironn (eironn, lyca, rowan, safyiah, skriath) But now I`m having second toughts on the transition. Maybe better to me going for Daimon Comp with Thoran (I have one hero chest with Diamon in my inventory)? Any advice to make my life easier pls? Thank you very much in advance.
faint current
Honestly someone with similar heros beat the 2nd fight at lower level with that comp so I copy pasted. I assumed lorsan was only there to link and die
coral pier
@faint current Does Saurus ever survive Eironn burst? You might need to use someone to counter his pull, maybe Athalia.
modern matrix
laku the lineup didnt work
faint current
Yes, I can get them to survive the initial burst and they can survive long enough for Tasi to ult with good RNG but then they just pop
Numisu totems are causing issues I think. Ppl use Eironn but mine is L+
swift geyser
New here just figuring out who to focus on, to progress currently on 6-4 just pulled talene, so switched thane for her
coral pier
@faint current If they survive that long I have a feeling that you could use that Brutus slot for something more effective since you might not need the damage sponge.
faint current
Perhaps. I tried Wukong but after his clones spawn they all pop instantly and he dies
coral pier
Are you using chaos bringer on Saurus?
faint current
Yes, use eye instead?
coral pier
Nah, chaos bringer is more damage if you get the ult off which you do
faint current
I do yes
coral pier
What do you die to then?
faint current
Lemme retry and bunch, see if I can get a video
coral pier
You could even replace Brutus with Lyca for more explosive damage
also a stronger faction bonus
faint current
Lyca is in 2nd comp I could try
Ok so looks like Saurus ends up against Brutus and dies
coral pier
The numisu looks like the biggest issue there
faint current
He is definitely also causing issues. I literally tried Shemira to try and deal with the 1000 totems but she pops instantly
coral pier
What if you daimon rowan the first comp and then merc a really good eironn to kill the 2nd battle with ferael-tasi-lyca-lorsan?
faint current
I put in a request for an Eironn +30 9/9
coral pier
If you want to do that you should start figuring out if you can do the first battle with daimon
surreal echo
Hey everyone. I need some guidance.. My account 28 days in. Chapter 15-36. I spent all faction scrolls in Lightbearer, coz I was thinking to go Bellinda LB mid game and then transition to Eironn (eironn, lyca, rowan, safyiah, skriath) But now I`m having second toughts on the transition. Maybe better to me going for Daimon Comp with Thoran (I have one hero chest with Diamon in my inventory)? Any advice to make my life easier pls? Thank you very much in advance.
@surreal echo anyone can give me some guidance pls, guys?
faint current
That’s a good point
coral pier
Daimon is much better at dealing with Numisu than Saurus
toxic flame
@surreal echo the question fits better in #classic-questions actually so I put a response there
coral pier
@surreal echo You should go for a daimon comp, daimon can also work with wilders
toxic flame
Tldr I think faction scrolls in wilder first is a better plan... daimon is great but there are a lot of core wilders
surreal echo
I posted my heroes here
faint current
Any suggestions on a Rowan Daimon comp for Fight 1? (Obv can’t use feral/Lyca/tasi/lorsan if I’m using them fight 2)
surreal echo
2 pictures
toxic flame
And you WILL build daimon eventually. But spending faction scrolls to get a specific hero is generally a bad idea. @surreal echo .
Just for future reference if the question is general like "what heroes should I build." U can post in #classic-questions. If it is about how to beat a specific stage post here
surreal echo
Should I stop to faction scroll LB? My Rowan is L+. need 4 copies to ascend
And I already have Bellinda ascended
coral pier
@faint current Brutus, Gorvo, Nara, Rowan, Daimon could work
@surreal echo Stop focusing LB yes, not worth focusing an entire faction for 1 hero
toxic flame
@surreal echo if u have an L+ rowan u font need to spend faction scrolls on LB anymore. I would save for wilders
surreal echo
What comp should I aim for with Daimon? Coz the core build is Daimon, Thoran, Nara, Ferael and Rowan.. Should I go for Wilders anyway? And can I use my ascended Bellinda? I posted my heroes here. I dont knos if u guys saw. I have 5 Skriath, 3 Safyia, 4 Daimon, 5 Thoran, 4 Lycas, 2 Tasi, 0 Eironns and Saurons. I want to choose the best path to build a comp with the heroes that I already have.
2 Feraels, 2 Naras, 3 Oden
My actual hereos. I was going for Eironn comp later. Not sure what path to take now.
coral pier
Well that is the core for multicomps, but for single battles I think Rowan-Tasi-Talene-Ferael-Daimon is better. Talene can be swapped out for another healer or Lyca. @surreal echo
surreal echo
6 Rosalines, 5 Lucians. So.. You guys think I should aim for Wilders Scrolls and go for Daimon comp with the heroes I have? And when should I transition from my ascended Bellinda to another core?
I was trying to ascend a second LB first.
coral pier
Go for Wilders. Use your select summons for Daimon and transition out from belinda as soon as you have a good damage dealer like daimon built. @surreal echo
surreal echo
I see. Thanks a lot, everyone. I really appreciate it
coral pier
👍
surreal echo
And what about Eironn comp? Was my main plan. Start to use faction scrolls in Wilder on chapter 21 and transition to Eironn comp on chapter 23-24. Once I have no Eirons and 4 Daimons and 5 Thoran, maybe is better for me going Daimon instead of Eironn? Coz I think if I start to do Wilders now, I ll get a bunch of Eironns.
coral pier
You will need to build a Eironn no matter what anyways so his copies won't go to waste in the future.
surreal echo
Ohhh I see. Thats nice
coral pier
So just summon the wilders and select summon daimons
surreal echo
Gonna do that. Thanks a lot 🙂
faint current
Daimon dies to pull 99% of the time, dies 0.5 seconds after otherwise :/
coral pier
Also realized you don't have a faction bonus, athalia diving on eironn could help
coral pier
I for sure though it was, I guess I am remembering wrong
coral pier
He is missing a lot of those heroes tho
faint current
Wait a minute maybe dive IS faster? Maybe he dodged the CC that one time?
coral pier
Ok try a few times
toxic flame
@faint current u could also put call on athalia to make it faster
faint current
@toxic flame I’m missing Eironn, Thoran and Izold I have all 3 Merced at +30 with furn but can’t use all 3 obv
toxic flame
@faint current ohhh I see the problem now lol
coral pier
So I checked my replay and I was able to clear the 2nd one with eironn comp without rowan so you should be good on that if you can figure out a comp for first battle.
@faint current Also if you can slot in wukong your faction bonus would be even stronger
gaunt hawk
Evening all, based on some recommendations on not having all damage dealers and releveling heroes, I have been trying to use Belinda as carry, Lucia's as tank but trying to figure out best way to fill out the rest. Or if I should rethink those first two. Stuck on 11-26 and wondering if I should keep the 40 lvl spread or start getting the others to catch up? Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
coral pier
@gaunt hawk I would go for Shemira carry so you can buy her from lab store and that way you can also focus on wilders instead of LB.
faint current
@coral pier I uhhh used Isabella copies #7,8 to ascend Nara so this comp works now for fight 1
coral pier
Nice
faint current
This is the state of Fight 2
coral pier
2nd comp Tasi-Lyca-Ferael-Eironn-Saurus
faint current
I’ll try it one the Eironn merc comes in
gaunt hawk
@coral pier how do you suggest I fill out the rest if I use Shemira carry?
coral pier
@gaunt hawk Lyca-Rowan-Tasi is a solid combo. Last spot can be stuff like Eironn, Saurus, Nemora, Gorvo
gaunt hawk
@coral pier Thanks I'll give that a shot.
modern matrix
im struggling so much on 10-40, laku help
faint current
Ok so Saveas consistently the last one left alive after Thoran double ult. Not sure if saurus contributes much is there anything to put in saurus’s spot that will somehow deal with Saveas across the map?
modern matrix
I used the formation you told me about
coral pier
@modern matrix Can you post the screenshot like the one above that Nilas posted of the battle formation?
modern matrix
k
coral pier
@faint current kelthur?
modern matrix
coral pier
@modern matrix What if you put Tasi frontline instead of Lyca?
modern matrix
let me try that
i was so close, only that hooded dude in the bottom corner and Vedan with a little bit of health
But that was after 3 tries
coral pier
ok what if you swap your team around so top side goes to bottom side
coral pier
I gotta admit, this stage is really difficult with your heroes. Getting a lvl 160 carry would make a world of difference in this situation.
faint current
@coral pier So it’s not that “sometimes Eironn is faster” this mufugga just dodges it 50% of the time. The RNG is REAL 
coral pier
Eironn has the highest base dodge in the game iirc. How good is your athalia gear?
@modern matrix How is your mauler fodder? If you can make another E+ Saveas you could make him L+ and use him as carry in the meanwhile.
faint current
coral pier
Yeah that weapon is the reason for the dodges
faint current
That’s the best I can do :/ it helped a lot it was like he was dodging 75% of the time before
coral pier
Duras conviction also adds accuracy btw, could help
coral pier
@modern matrix I guess you could try, L+ would be better so you could make him lvl 160
modern matrix
Would I replace Tasi with him?
coral pier
Replace Belinda
modern matrix
k
coral pier
get levels from belinda to saveas too
wooden oyster
Hey guys, so got wukong to lv 100,what should I lvl next
hybrid bolt
What should be my go to lineup for campaign now?
modern matrix
With Saveas it isnt going so well
coral pier
I guess it was worth a shot, back to belinda then
@hybrid bolt Rowan-Tasi-Ferael-Eironn-Lyca is pretty legit
vivid harbor
Any line up suggestions? (I plan to main maulers, but wouldn't mind adding the occasional wilder hero to the comp.) This is one of my many alts, so i'm not too stressed about progress, but at the same time I don't want to be stuck forever
is golus a good tank early game? Or should I keep thoran? Also I plan on replacing khazard w/ skriath, but idk if that's a good decision
coral pier
@vivid harbor I guess since you are using maulers you just want a fun account. If I were to do that I would for sure go for a Drez centered team.
vivid harbor
I heard safiya is good? or does that only apply to late game?
I know saveas exists, but he's already my carry for one of my accs.... so I kinda wanna avoid using him
coral pier
Safiya is great for Eironn comps as a support/damage hero. She is still worth wishlisting in a mauler account, but building a mauler comp around her isn't the best thing imo.
vivid harbor
Noted. So, what heroes would you recommend for a mauler-centered acc
I plan on using numisu, drez, and skriath. But, that still leaves room for 2 more heroes
coral pier
Skregg, Tidus, Drez, Numisu, Vurk and maybe Anoki
autumn pond
What should I be using for campaign? Also looking for a guild...
coral pier
@autumn pond Either that comp or Saurus-Shemira-Tasi-Rowan-Nemora.
autumn pond
Ok I'll try that rn. Is what I have rn a solid comp?
wooden oyster
Hey guys, what should I use, kinda stuck
coral pier
It is a decent one for now, I don't know how well Lucius is surviving tho. Put Shemira frontline btw so she will gain energy faster and Rowan middle of the back row @autumn pond
autumn pond
@coral pier I mainly use him in my back line behind saurus I mainly require his shield until my saurus can get his max tenacity
vivid harbor
So skriath is a no go? I'll most likely use him until I get any of the heroes you mentioned
coral pier
Skriath might work, just doesn't seem like he is what the team needs. I might be wrong tho.
modern matrix
i think I’ll just wait until I can get and use another mercenary again
And just level up in the meantime
elder badge
hi friends! I'm just entering chapter 13-4 and I was wondering if I should start slowly making my transition over to a Wilders comp. I was thinking of pulling Wilders and see if I get lucky with more lyka/tasi copies. does that sound okay or is there some other comp I should be running instead? I currently run lucius-talene-daimon-rowan-shemira thank you in advance! :,)
modern matrix
4 more days
coral pier
@elder badge Generally wilders are the best faction for a new player to focus right now. With them adding Silas in to the game graveborn is a really close 2nd.
stone iron
oof i went light
coral pier
as did I
tired dove
Can’t move past here
coral pier
@tired dove Do you have a rowan that isn't in the screenshot?
tired dove
Debating feeding Raine to Rosa
coral pier
Don't feed ascended tier heroes
elder badge
aight thank you! should I focus more on graveborn since I already have a nara and ferael or does that not matter @coral pier
tired dove
Also mybad. This is my current lineup
vivid harbor
@coral pier Since this is a 'fun account', who do you recommend I focus on in the lab. store? Well at least out of the two mauler heroes
coral pier
Skregg
vivid harbor
bet, ty once again!
marsh nymph
Help pls, Belinda/mirael ult hurts and both kills nara when she pulls
long ocean
pearl juniper
Witch hero should I ascend ? I’m at 7-36
silk drift
@pearl juniper Mirael
Both Shemira and Belinda aren’t suitable this early
I can’t kill Vedan before he ults and finish my team
pearl juniper
Thx
silk drift
You should also consider ascending one legend tier from each faction ( the fifth one depends on who you can ascend preferably the faction you use the faction scrolls on) and lvl them up instead and put the heroes you use in the Resonating Crystal slots. Don’t forget to keep Mirael 20-40 lvls higher than the rest
N.B: DON’T USE ASCENDED TIER HEROES TO ASCEND OTHER HEROES ONLY USE LEGEND TIER
fiery cypress
So this Is my main team, and this is the Lightbearer units I have I can ascend one of 3 to mythic tier, wanted to wait on last rowan but looking grim at this point, so estrilda,Fawkes, Or Rosa? My main dps is Nuke so Rosa beem a godsend for me in terms of letting me push
Also i would like some help in Trying to make this te better, kinda just been doing everything possible to keep nuke and rosa alive for double bomb usually wipes put the enemy,
silk drift
I would still wait for that Rowan copy. I am 2 copies away and I can ascend 4 other heroes but I am still waiting
fiery cypress
I guess, brutal. Just been soong since I made any real progress
silk drift
Try changing up your formation usually the thing that separates win from loss is one swap
whole briar
south atlas
Any advice about what characters to run would be appreciated I use wilders and estrilda right now
dusky lion
Any ideas here? Just get insta stomped basically no matter the combination.
urban salmon
@dusky lion try switching out eironn for ferael. Play around with the positions either rowan middle or frontline or tasi lyca frontline. That’s a typical daimon wilder lineup. Eironn doesnt belong there
dusky lion
He’s 240 which is part of the reason, may just need to wait on 2K dust to break crystal. I tried swapping but my farael isn’t quite as built. Getting close to power req so some combos don’t work either
gray schooner
how do I not die
kindred lynx
Does this look fine? Just need retries or swap Rowan and tasi? I tried swapping em a few times and it didn’t really work
hollow hatch
Vurk will screw over your Athalia, so I'd swap her for a Nara
Also yeah Rowan for Tasi would help I think
dusky hazel
What can I do?
tough hinge
Any advice? Getting destroyed
dusky hazel
Take out ainz, put in safiya and swap tasi with lyca. If that doesn't work, put tasi back in and swap estrilda out for Lyca instead. @tough hinge
thorny stirrup
Any ideas?
pale kettle
Rowan ferael lyca tasi rosa
Grez Lucius and Shem are kinda useless at your level and I'd probably stop using them
thorny stirrup
Huh I thought they would still hold up pretty well at this point
But I guess that explains my difficulty
wooden oyster
Hi guys, any suggestion on what to do, I'm currently stuck at that stage
raw rune
show damage?
eternal totem
Anyone has 30-1?
tidal abyss
hazy phoenix
Need some help doing 2 teams for chapter 31 stage 4
urban salmon
@hazy phoenix can you merc an ezizh? Team 1: rowan, tasi, safiya, eironn, ezizh. Team 2: brutus, thoran, lyca, daimon, ferael
urban salmon
I think its worth a shot..hes just needed to bring numisu closer. Usually eironn and ezizh will be the first to go down.
If safiya, rowan, tasi survive the initial pull you have a chance at winning. Big RNG though because of brutus immunity and enemy tasi
hazy phoenix
ok i will try thnx for help
it worked holy shit daimon solo carry second battle lol he clapped it so so so hard
urban salmon
Haha awesome! Grats!🤙
somber shoal
Any help on this one?
lost nova
@drowsy vapor eirron comp it.
Could always put eirron top back corner. Put Brutus in to tank athalia hit. Fareal bottom corner. Rowan top front.
Lyca bottom front
twin finch
Is this a good line up to start? Brand new
dusky mirage
any tips for this? cant use safya because of power req and ferael doesnt seem that good cause of tasi so i threw izold in there
nvm izold managed to 1v5
raw rune
@twin finch wu kong is the one you want the highest, not lucretia, read the pins in #classic-questions they will help
amber halo
@raw rune not really either can be carries
raw rune
... yes wu kong can what are you talking about @amber halo
he's the best option you have until lv100
amber halo
Lucretia can carry as well in his early game - wukong is weak as fk until he's decently ascended
raw rune
what?? you've never used him properly early game then jesus
amber halo
No I used Lucretia carry early game as she is way stronger than wukong in elite lol
raw rune
if she was, then more people would recommend it
amber halo
The only reason people recommend wukong is u can ascend him from labyrinth store rofl
Lucretia u won't get more copies until late in the game while u can get wukong easy
raw rune
noone does that he's not worth after lv100
amber halo
Hahaha so my 240 wukong is dogshit? Ok
raw rune
i mean for people who aren't whales... or have spent a lot of time
amber halo
I'm not whale I only bought monthly card + regal
And wukong is f2p friendly u can buy him in lab store bro
raw rune
yeah so you've spent a lot of time, he's not gonna be useful for a while after lv100 for most people, why would you when there's Arthur and dimensionals?
amber halo
Ainz is dogshit since it takes him 13 seconds to do first basic. Arthur is amazing, but to 100 I think Lucretia is way stronger thank wukong because I think he's dogshit until wukong is decently ascended
raw rune
then why have I had great success with him on both my accounts pre lv100
amber halo
And Lucretia can easily carry u early cz of the heals
Well any carry can do good in early game I'm just saying wukong is bad in early game thats all, I would recommend shemira. I'm just saying wukong is weak early game compared to what choices you have
raw rune
i really don't see why everyone recommends wu kong then... i dont think ascending easily is a good enough reason
amber halo
It is because it's easy to get them fully ascended because it's guaranteed copies. Your first ascended hero would 99/100 times be that hero because you need 8 copies. And an ascended hero will easily carry u a long way. I used shemira very strong. But she's dogshit late game
Wukong is bad early strong late game
For example in late game eiron and Safiya is op but no way u ascend them early game. So you got your why of early game recommendations = because it's ez as fk even as f2p
Well anyways it's just my opinion from years of experience, you are welcome to have your own.
raw rune
I'll at least try lucretia then
kindred lynx
I’d honestly say Shemira is far better early game than wukong, wukong takes 14 copies to ascend, and his main use later is in pvp rather than pve, whilst Shemira takes only 8 and some fodder but she falls off massively past chap 25 which makes the only reason to invest in her is to make her dimensional link fodder, though the issue with lucretia is that you need the 9/9 furn high ascension and high sig item or else she falls off hard pretty soon into the game
amber halo
Yeah but he had Lucretia and wukong tho i also recommended shemira but she's dogshit lategame
kindred lynx
Essentially unless you are sub 11 lucrieta at base E is quite useless compared to other heroes you can place on your team
Overall you also won’t be needing to use wukong as he doesent align with any of the end game core comps for pve
raw rune
Nerds was saying that any other carry than shemira was better, same with belinda, they make it pretty clear they don't think shemira is very good
kindred lynx
Yes obviously she isn’t good since she falls off at 25, but the thing is the reason to build her is also for the dimensional link
amber halo
When u only have elite Lucretia is strong 100 then I went shemira and changed when I had more copies
Haller ainz is trash due to 13 seconds afk imo
kindred lynx
You can both use her in early and mid game, while after that using her for the dimensional link, but with wukong his main use is in pve as none of the core 5 possible team comps can incorporate him
@amber halo he is pretty annoying to use, you essentially need your build entirely around making him stay alive to make him work
raw rune
so you really think i should change wu kong to lucretia then
kindred lynx
@raw rune I’m not saying that, I’m not sure how your team comp is or the your entire box, yes lucrieta may be good if you are sub ch 11 but past that no, it’s worth a try to make an attempt to incorporate her at least
amber halo
Cool either of those 2 is ok in elite but u would want another carry for elite + and further
And usually u would only have 1 carry in ur team
raw rune
i have zaphrael on my main, i mean my test account which is ch6
kindred lynx
Exactly, and as I’ve said before Shemira is a viable option for one reason, you can use her as a mid and early game carry, then dump her as a dimensional link
raw rune
kinda regret not choosing lucretia on that account i was clueless about the game when i chose him
amber halo
And no reason not to use shemira since u need ascended heroes in late game to increase level cap anyways
kindred lynx
That decision won’t really affect your progression in the grand scheme of the game
raw rune
i know, so should i use lucretia ch6
kindred lynx
If it works out, then yes
You can also take a path of using bellinda if you wish, she is also pretty strong and the game gives you a lot of copies, keep in mind tho that Shemira only gets “carry tier” past lvl 161
So don’t start expecting immediate results it takes a little bit of time
amber halo
I used saveas cz he's also op in early game until l+
With Brutus khasos tasi Arden and lyca for example
Khasos or saveas
raw rune
Well she's doing even worse than wu kong in my current stage, so i doubt what you said is always true @amber halo
somber shoal
amber halo
Well it depends on what copies u have gotten so far
somber shoal
Could anyone help me out here? They're just melting my front/backline
raw rune
wdym by copies @amber halo
kindred lynx
@somber shoal swap nemora and tasi, and swap Lucius and rosa
amber halo
Show your heroes to see what's best it depends a lot about if you have duplicates of heroes or not
raw rune
if you mean heroes, this otherwise why would i get a 2nd copy of lucretia
so yeah limited stuff rn
so idk if lucretia is gonna work
May just switch back to wu kong because she dies really quickly even after ult
amber halo
I wouldn't use either of those when you have mirael carry but it's up to you and it's good to test what's best
raw rune
mirael before lv100... really?
amber halo
And u should push Arden to 81 for rooting 2 enemies. Before 81 he's useless
amber halo
Elite+ has way better stats than elite that's why I say mirael carry, but when u get levels u can easily push campaign
raw rune
uh who would 5th member be then if not lucretia or wu kong
mirael is 80,arden tasi and hogan are 61
amber halo
Hogan Lucius mirael tasi and Arden looks to be the strongest of what u have
raw rune
ok ill add remove lucius from crystal for now
amber halo
But try to push Arden 81 and mirael 101 at least and always use ur highest ascended heroes on crystal as u can exceed the others maximum level doing that if u know what I mean
But u should look on wishlist and search for stable wishlist online before you summon more imo
raw rune
i already have the pinned wishlist
raw rune
yeah I'll aim for that
amber halo
And then rush mirael 101 before upgrading the other to 81
raw rune
rn stuck on 11-38 on my main they do way too much damage, bloodsnarl is the only one that doesn't do loads, i dont have enough cc to keep up, even if i do enough damage to kill them with mirael
there you go @amber halo
literally almost there after keeping mirael at 80
amber halo
Perfect and what happens if u use rosaline instead of athalia?
amber halo
But rosa in back Lucius front so rosa can buff mirael u tried that?
And how is ur artifacts placed?
raw rune
just tried, lucius died first instead and then rosa almost immediately after, also have eye
amber halo
Try to put mirael artifact on Lucius and Lucius artifact on fawkes
And u don't have dura's eye yet?
raw rune
i said i have eye
raw rune
she needs call to get any damage off, as i said everyone gets Overwhelmed by the power
hence why i need a lot of cc
amber halo
If u want cc use Arden tasi and lyca
pale kettle
Lucius
Mirael
Rosa
Rowan
Fawkes
amber halo
Brutus saveas tasi lyca Arden maybe try it and see if it works. Might not but worth a try
Brutus and tasi front
raw rune
amber halo
It lacks frontline u don't have Brutus? And with those 3 wilders u shouldn't use rowan
raw rune
nope, only merc which I'm trying to avoid using until 11-40
amber halo
I never use it it kinda ruins the fun and u should try comps and retry 20 times as this game is big rng
Can u show me ur heroes on main then I can easier see a good comp
raw rune
yeah when it seems possible, then i always retry a lot and it works, but this time it's not even close
the optimal atm is lucius mirael rosa fawkes and rowan but it doesn't seem to work on this one
amber halo
I see a good one that might work it's without mirael so might be underleveled
But Lucius vedan front. Fawkes rowan and shemira back
raw rune
hmm vedan seems too weak when I've tried him
amber halo
Yeah usually he needs to be overleveled, but it's worth a try since u don't have baden
My alt is 20 days old and I use this
Not nemora or saveas the 5 others
raw rune
that's a lot of non l+ a tiers
amber halo
Yeah for progress and many of them are guaranteed in challenger store/lab except rowan
Ohh and Lucius but yeah u should just try different comps, that team is made for lab it deletes hard mode like it's nothing
And did u use all afk arena gift codes as it gives tons of diamonds and scrolls?
dense trout
who is silvina going after
sullen jacinth
nvm i finished it thanks
dense trout
ah
tidal dust
fresh bloom
Stage 28-50
Any ideas?
amber halo
Don't use eiron if u have Belinda carry
For example Lucius hendrick fawkes rowan and belinda
Oh ur rowan is far away 😂😂
But he's op af
fresh bloom
Yeah, I have to upgrade him 😂
I'm near to take Gwyneth to M+.
I will go for Rowan right after
somber shoal
Any help on this one? I'm getting wiped 🤣
fresh bloom
Is Vurk the main problem?
somber shoal
Yes
quaint owl
charming him with Nemora wont help? also maybe use Tasi on front she can ulti sooner this way
she would jump before dying
amber halo
Nemora mid back Lucius tasi front shemira bottom back
quaint owl
Tasi front Lucius behind. after tasi jump he can fill her space. shemira need to fill energy too
amber halo
Shem dies too fast before level 161 bro
ionic kestrel
I hate to ask, but could someone help me out? I’ve hit a bit of a wall and could definitely use a hand. A part of me wonders if I just need to wait and level up my heroes more, but there could also just be a solution I’m not seeing.
quaint owl
Vurk attacks lucius, i think she may survive
amber halo
Maybe grezhul instead of mask guy for buff
quaint owl
i beat this one (12-40) with Shem-Lucious-Tasi-Rowan-Rosaline
lament solar
Best formation i can get ? Pls
pale kettle
@ionic kestrel reset everyone to 120 then make Belinda 160 and put her frontline