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maiden marsh
feral plaza
raw rune
ember pasture
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@feral plaza You want Ainz in back and protected so he can finish his channel and ult as soon as possible. Looks like you finished that level, but you want him away from Arden or he'll get locked down. For the second one, keep him away from Belinda. Again, you want him to finish his channel without interruption.

feral plaza
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@ember pasture but everyone else dies too fast

ember pasture
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Your main tank is a Mauler, which will always have trouble with Lightbearers. Sometimes the key is in the name...AFK and get a few levels.

maiden marsh
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@feral plaza you should be more than fine on that level my lineup is nearly the same, I'm lower levels and stuck on 15-40

feral plaza
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I just can’t tolerate the fact my friend passed me and went to next stage o.e

maiden marsh
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focus on heroes who can contribute when dead/dying like thoran, brutus, rowan, lyca, etc

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@feral plaza also reset someone and get ainz to 161, big increase in power on the only character that matters other than daiman

wet violet
ember pasture
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@raw rune, you might try Arden to cc the Saveas. But you're also hitting the point where you can't push whenever you feel like it. You have a full LB team, but they're dying to Maulers. This means they're waay weak, so you may need to wait for levels and/or ascension.

feral plaza
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@maiden marsh my team:

raw rune
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I've used saurus, mehira and lyca, so i could add some of those back, but i doubt that makes a huge huge difference it's just saveas is really strong

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but yeah i understand its getting even harder than it was at c9

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kinda sucks that even after l+ I'm still losing super quickly though

gusty wolf
gusty wolf
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edit: Ainz at L+/lvl 156 is in my hero arsenal too

random bay
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Do I get thoran to L+ or do I save the fodder for when I have the 4th copy of shemira?

unborn zealot
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Stuckies

raw rune
thin wind
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Any tips on what to do?

unique pulsar
agile dawn
tidal dust
void glade
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helloo, um... could anyone help me with a stage please??

coral pier
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@tidal dust Levels are all around the place, reset some heroes to pump up carries

tidal dust
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@tidal dust Levels are all around the place, reset some heroes to pump up carries
@coral pier who's my "carrys"

coral pier
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right now lucretia wukong

tidal dust
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and if u can answer this, do I fodder wu kong at around 100 for shemira ?

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I heard he drops

karmic lake
void glade
mild geyser
unkempt field
pale kettle
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@unkempt field i remember using the following: 1 shemira, 2 lucius, 3 fawkes or ferael, 4 rowan and 5 rosaline, it took a few tries but you’ll make it eventually!

grim lance
sturdy kiln
unkempt field
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I tried everyone got oneshotted

coral pier
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@sturdy kiln Tasi front instead of Lyca?

pale kettle
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nice @unkempt field!

raw rune
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yeah hypo mage can be weirdly annoying, usually not a problem if you can deal with other enemies @mild geyser

tawny seal
pale kettle
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Hey any recommendations I need a good all around setup

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I'm kinda new so this is all I have

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I currently just use the top row

tawny seal
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Eironn is really good, Shemira is a good carry and the game throws her at you and Tasi is a really good unit because of her teleport and ult

vivid basalt
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Any suggestions?

dark roost
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I'm ready to entirely redo my crystal. Amongst all those, who should I use?

pale kettle
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@dark roost You can build a Niru or Vedan for a replacement 5th L+ member, which can later be fed to Shemira and take her Ascended.

ivory parrot
raw rune
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Yea never put angelo on the crystal again @ivory parrot

random lichen
light igloo
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pippa arena trials picture anyone?

coral pier
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google it

ivory parrot
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Pulled Fawkes and solved everything 👍

light igloo
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youtube is not working at the moment

coral pier
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Just google pippa trials and you will see a page with a image guide

random lichen
gray schooner
coral pier
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@random lichen You are completely missing a carry hero. All levels are on Estrilda so Saf can't carry. This won't help you right now, but you really can'y use estrilda as a main carry.

random lichen
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So put more levels on safiya?

coral pier
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@gray schooner Put Rowan to middle of the back row, he isn't healing your wukong right now.

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@random lichen Yeah but you are pretty ascension capped. You need to work on getting copies and ascending a damage carry hero.

timid sun
gray schooner
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that doesn't really change things though, he dies after 4 seconds regardless, with hogan lasting marginally longer

coral pier
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@gray schooner Also with your heroes a higher power difference might not be possible at this time

gray schooner
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ok

coral pier
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@timid sun Put Rowan to middle of back row and switch Izold to Talene

timid sun
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ehh i dont know names of heroes 😄

coral pier
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talene is the phoenix, izold is the graveborn guy with a bunch of tubes and needles

timid sun
coral pier
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yeah that should work

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now pump lots of levels on Lucretia and Mirael

timid sun
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lucretia and mirael are my main dps right?

coral pier
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yes

timid sun
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should i lvl up talene too?

coral pier
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put some baseline level on her

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she isn't supposed to be your damage dealer in early game, she just has massive heals

timid sun
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okay,thank you

coral pier
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👍

light igloo
coral pier
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did you look up a guide?

pearl zinc
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Anyone have kings tower 434

light igloo
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yeah this team is from guide

coral pier
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are you looking at the right one? @light igloo

light igloo
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Yeah i m pretty sure

coral pier
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@pearl zinc So far Tasi-Talene-Ferael-Rowan-Daimon has been able to powercap clear the past 40 stages for me

pearl zinc
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Thanks Proof!

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yeah tasi keeps blowing up

frank ridge
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This stage is ass. Arden cc with brutus stall for shem fucken w me

coral pier
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@frank ridge What have you tried so far?

frank ridge
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i have gwyn (gwynthur rosa rowan talene) and eironn (tasi lyca eironn rowan talene) comps, i might just be positioning incorectly though

coral pier
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You should really make a Daimon comp, he is the king of kings tower

frank ridge
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i mean, i have daimon built but ive never found/been told the comp for him

coral pier
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Stuff like Eironn-Talene-Daimon-Rowan-Lyca/Tasi works great

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Have call on daimon

frank ridge
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how should i position? i'll give it a go

coral pier
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Just try different positions, possibly rowan frontline if needed.

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It is always about small adjustments to positions in these stages that you can't instantly see when you look at the layout.

timid sun
coral pier
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your levels are too balanced, pump lucretia and mirael

timid sun
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missing resources

coral pier
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you can always reset others to lvl 20

timid sun
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how?

coral pier
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rickety cart

timid sun
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can you show me where please? 😄

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oh okay i see

clever bobcat
coral pier
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Don't have eironn under athalia dive. Also is your skriath doing anything without 3/3, you could have a rowan instead @clever bobcat

teal hill
frank ridge
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@coral pier daimon comp is even worse, everyone gets instapopped

coral pier
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@frank ridge I was kinda suspecting that, the heroes in that comp aren't very built in your acc. What about using your main comps and slotting daimon in for wherever he can fit?

teal hill
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I am currently using brutus, lucius, and backline wun ku, rowan and tasi , any suggestions on what should i change? According to the images above

bronze nova
coral pier
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@bronze nova Grez instead of rowan and 3/3 daimon instead of rosaline

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frontline grez ofc with talene

bronze nova
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don't have either

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you can see my roster

coral pier
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Hmm thats a problem

bronze nova
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i'm asking if it's possible to do more with my current heroes. i'm working towards daimon and grez

coral pier
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can you merc a daimon?

bronze nova
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i can, yes

coral pier
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That would be worth a shot imo

bronze nova
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well the person i req from is online so i'll let you know if it works

coral pier
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I will go to sleep now tho

bronze nova
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ok gn then

coral pier
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good luck

bronze nova
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thanks for the advice

coral pier
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👍

agile hamlet
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Currently using heroes on the top row

opaque rose
wooden canopy
pale kettle
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If I had

Rosaline
albedo
Rowan
???
ainz
Who would fill the gap best?

wooden canopy
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Could anyone possibly help with my lineup? Getting rocked all of a sudden (I realize I might be underleveled here

quiet ingot
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i need some advice. ive been stuck in 31-44. i believe im over leveled at this point but cant beat it. the first team is a 7 times out of 10 wins but i get wiped almost instantly for the second. best run has been with a janky thoran build. tried everything else.

teal hill
worldly parcel
stuck trellis
pale kettle
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@teal hill Arden and Niru to L+. 5th unit can be whoever so long as their copies are available to take to L+ and you're not sacrificing Ascended tier heroes to do it.

night shadow
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Anybody Ive been stuck at 10-40 for a few day now

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Those hypogean mages paired with verdans bat ult just mow through my team in seconds. Even with lucius shield

stark dew
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Anyone advanced that I can private message I’ve been stuck for 4 days and I just not sure if I’m using my hero’s the right way want to know if I should reset all of them and start from the bottom or what but don’t wanna spam 5 screen shots on here

pearl zinc
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@stark dew feel free to send me a note and I'll take a quick look

timid sun
bold garnet
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Whats the best team i can make?

kindred lynx
slim comet
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Who can I replace +30 saurus with in Eironn Lyca Tasi Safiya Rowan?

faint current
stuck trellis
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@kindred lynx

safiya
rowan
eironn"
lyca
tasi

pale kettle
random void
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good?

pale kettle
kindred lynx
dull prairie
kindred lynx
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@dull prairie are you looking to use him in campaign?

dull prairie
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Oops iment sauren@kindred lynx

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I only do 15m to him

kindred lynx
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Bellinda, Rowan, Safiya, Lucius, and Lyca(I guess??)

dull prairie
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Isnt like saures best for sauren?

full finch
kindred lynx
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oh didnt see him there, yeah use him for sure instead of lyca

dull prairie
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Oki tyvm

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yoo my damage got increased almost x2 ty soo much!

slender ferry
low ravine
slender ferry
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That’s the same setup I’m using

low ravine
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Which one is it

slender ferry
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@low ravine top right

low ravine
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Oh yea thats the only one on that map that doesnt work

slender ferry
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Ty

vast meadow
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stuck

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silvina wipes tasi and brutus wipes Ezio so I cant do anything

weak island
raw rune
gilded dome
raw rune
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you should put mirael in front of rosa @weak island

weak island
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Cheers, it worked for the most part, now just gotta keep replaying until that damned Saveas dies

raw rune
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no problem, yeah I hated saveas in those battles, a bit later it's khasos, then it comes back to vedan

wanton plank
red meteor
stiff plaza
somber shoal
low ravine
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Reset the twins and level up Tasi instead so you can get higher level

pale kettle
calm wren
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Can't do this one

dense trout
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u got athalia and nara?

mild geyser
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Try gwyn

raw rune
calm wren
pale kettle
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Help idk what to put

shut glacier
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U can Google Pippa Cheese sheet. Google photo too. There are already cheat comp for every stage

pale kettle
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Oh lol

sacred mural
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any good adjustments for midgame?

feral eagle
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@sacred mural invest in mirael and overlevel her, she will carry you better than shemira for now

sacred mural
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@feral eagle but everyone said shemira is the best early mid carry lol

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thats why i took her

feral eagle
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@sacred mural she will be once you get her to 161+, before that she is kind of squishy. There's better alternatives nowadays anyway

limpid crest
shut glacier
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@limpid crest u need to rent M+-A. EZIZH , use Talene, perhaps DPS is Daimon+Rowan, Eiron +Rowan. Use either Nara or Athalia directly opposite Oden

sour pond
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My team dies too fast, any hints??

mild geyser
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try mercing a +30 3/9 izold

slim comet
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Where would I place Saurus in an Eironn Lyca Tasi Rowan Safiya comp?

limpid crest
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@limpid crest u need to rent M+-A. EZIZH , use Talene, perhaps DPS is Daimon+Rowan, Eiron +Rowan. Use either Nara or Athalia directly opposite Oden
@shut glacier ok thank you :)

royal thorn
coral pier
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@royal thorn What about arden instead of nara for the massive cc?

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Also Belinda could work as frontline instead of Daimon since she her ascension and level is so much higher

pale monolith
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10-40 Help

timid sun
willow moon
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@timid sun your hero leveling/resonating crystal is all wrong. use this beginner guide as reference. I'm not fully confident that I have a solution for you for that stage, but you could try running Nemora across from Morvus instead of Lucretia.

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timid sun
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i already used that guide

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but i dont have wukong

glad moat
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Bruh share twice in fb and easy wukong

gray schooner
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@timid sun the main problem I see is that you are leveling light/dark heroes that aren't your carry. Generally, you want to focus on leveling 2 LB fodders and one each from the other factions (Arden for Wilder and Saveas for Maulers are the recommendeed ones for those, you can use whatever in Graveborn), putting the rest in the resonating crystal. The reason for this is because you're very likely to be able to build a L+ fodder hero much quicker than other heroes, which is very important for level cap reasons

You get Wu Kong by pressing share twice (no need to actually share) when opening new heroes

timid sun
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what do i need to share?

glad moat
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Should I level up zaphrael as my main dmg dealer to replace as carry

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Oh wait I cant get it above elite scratch that

gray schooner
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even at E+ he is not a good carry

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asked this earlier myself when I got a random zaph and hadn't yet collected the destiny's choice hero

glad moat
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Hmm ok thanks

gray schooner
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eventually I just settled on lucretia for +100 diamonds since I was unlikely to use either and she is generally regarded as better anyway from what I've seen

cursive anvil
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Who should i make mythic + Eiron or Lyca?

glad moat
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Should I focus ainz or albedo

pale monolith
timid sun
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hmm still cant beat it

sour pond
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Was lucky i guess 🍀

timid sun
pale kettle
pale monolith
agile dawn
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@queen garnet I don't know if someone helped you already but I did the 15 sec stage of misty valley with this team

marsh nymph
agile dawn
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Lyca saurus Belinda Eronin tidus

raw rune
pale monolith
tidal sun
pale kettle
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Help pls

queen garnet
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@queen garnet I don't know if someone helped you already but I did the 15 sec stage of misty valley with this team
@agile dawn thank you for your effort but I finished it now

pale monolith
tidal sun
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The roamer is better in the back middle

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Try wukong or lucius

stray lintel
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Been really struggling to get this far.. am I doing something wrong?

pale kettle
boreal breach
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@pale kettle take out the purple lady and put in luci

pale kettle
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@boreal breach it died super fast

ivory parrot
bold garnet
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Any help would be appreciated

raw rune
shrewd meadow
feral plaza
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Horse should be in front to stun front liner and back liner with charge. Lucious should be protected long enough to ult @shrewd meadow

shrewd meadow
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Thanks, i'll switch shemira with the horse, correct?

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I don't even survive long enough to remove 50% of their health

pliant stump
pale monolith
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@pliant stump Maybe Cecila in the spot of Rowan and Maybe Brutus, Ferael as carry

stiff plaza
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Ive been asking for 2 days now and i cant win it i die like 3 seconds

pale kettle
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Maybe
Cecília
Lucius
Rowan
Daimon
Ferael

@pliant stump

tall lichen
marsh nymph
cobalt lance
mild geyser
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switch belinda and arden

frosty spindle
rigid oar
tawny seal
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@rigid oar Try putting lucius on the top front, Rowan back middle, Belinda instead of Odin and Fawkes top left

full pawn
rigid oar
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@tawny seal fawkes is dying pretty fast and it snowballs

tawny seal
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@rigid oar try putting belinda top left and Fawkes bottom left then

rigid oar
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thats what I did now belinda gets cocooned and dies @tawny seal

tawny seal
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@rigid oar Do you want to try putting lucius and belinda on the bottom and shemira and Fawkes on the top you could also try switching Fawkes for Rosa

rigid oar
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@tawny seal tried that belinda didnt last long and rosa also dies before she does much

tawny seal
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@rigid oar You might have to level a little like belinda so she doesn't die early

rigid oar
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@tawny seal was trying to get my shem to 161 first

tawny seal
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@rigid oar Thats a good idea because then she starts healing herself

kindred lynx
tidal dust
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Do I ascend wu kong ? Bc I heard you should switch to shemira or something when around level 100

surreal mason
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Any ideas or am I just underleveled

proper pecan
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Hi everybody, I’m a little bit stuck at 10-19. Have you some tips or what hero I should focus please ? Main team: Lucius, Wukong, Gwyneth, Rowan and Rosalyne with faction bonus 25%

hard shale
rich ruin
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I use same team as you but with astrilda, she's better than wukong imo for gwyn @proper pecan

proper pecan
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@rich ruin Really love my team. Mh I will try Estrelda even if I like the ultimate of Wukong which deal lot of dmg and good tank. Thanks

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@rich ruin Just tested her. Not bad, she died fast but not bad at all. Now, most of the time, I’m losing because of time :/

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Maybe, need more burst ?

tawny seal
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@proper pecan Shemira, Belinda and Eironn are great damaging units and Estrilda is a nice unit for her buffs but she's frail

proper pecan
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@tawny seal I wanted test Duo Eironn&Safiya but not really worth. I think because of my low level. I’m at early game

Mh I tried Eironn one time, he died too fast but I like this hero. Even with Lucius, Nemora, Tasi, or other support/tank

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I’m new to the game. I probably make some errors at the start ^^

tawny seal
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@proper pecan Safiya and Eironn comps are one of the best comps late game but it takes a lot of resources with summons

proper pecan
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@tawny seal you’re right !

tawny seal
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@proper pecan Safiya is the best Mauler her ult basically one shots everyone and Eironn has high dodge and dps

proper pecan
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@tawny seal Have you an idea of a team for 10-19 ? Including Eironn and Safiya

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In chapter 10-19, they are a lot of Saveas and I need to keep Safiya and Eironn alive if I use them

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You can see my heroes at top

raw rune
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and again...

violet igloo
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you're on the right track, keep trying you'll get it eventually 🙂

raw rune
tidal dust
raw rune
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i meant the screen was covered if that wasn't what you thought I meant @novel adder

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sorry for double hl

novel adder
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@raw rune i think its a matter of tries honestly.you can mess with some artifacts buti dont think there's much else you can do.
you can try playing around with athalia on the vedan. but the other units are doing pretty important jobs. but worth trial and error

raw rune
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yeah, fawkes gives them time, rosa makes mirael do enough damage, lucius is a tank that occasionally gets shield up and rowan is rowan

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so it may just be a case of always having high enough levels on either mirael and then the rest of the team

jolly quest
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Hey question for Gwyn/Arthur comps, is Chalice or the Tank relic considered the go-to for Arthur's relic now? And does that change if he has his 3/9?

raw rune
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OMG @novel adder mirael lived with a slither of hp, ended up putting them in the left back and it worked much better idk why maybe cos i finally realised isabella was getting hits off for free

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stray lintel
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Chapter 13 having a tough time any tips

raw rune
hard shale
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Anyone could help me ?

plush patrol
stuck trellis
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lyca
tasi
eironn
rowan
saf

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@plush patrol

clear fjord
rigid birch
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@clear fjord
1.Thoran
2.Brutus
3.Daimon
4.Rowan
5.Nara

Put Nara vs whoever causes more trouble whether it be Morvus or Mirael.

primal jasper
clear fjord
rigid birch
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@clear fjord try fawkes instead of nara

clear fjord
rigid birch
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gz
try to stick with that lineup
its really good for daimon

primal jasper
rigid birch
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level saveas as your main carry,

1.Lucius
2.Brutus
3.Lyca(Rosaline)
4.Rowan
5.Saveas

primal jasper
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So 3 tanks?

raw rune
rigid birch
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@raw rune you can maybe try swapping rowan and lucius, then swapping lucius with brutus, can buy you some time till mirael ults. this should work

raw rune
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don't have brutus D:

weak island
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Feels bad man

formal juniper
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Can you borrow Brutus from a friend?

raw rune
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nope and I've used my mercenary in campaign anyway

kindred lynx
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Retired like 250-300+ times and not sure what different formations to use

stuck trellis
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@kindred lynx

bright sand
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Im not really stuck im just wondering what my best lineup should be and if i should switch out other heroes like should i level up rosaline and switch out someone else?

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kindred lynx
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@stuck trellis ty was able to clear first attempt

stuck trellis
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nice rosamagic

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@kindred lynx u can just ping me if u need SS in ch 30

kindred lynx
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kk thanks

bright sand
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Can someone help me?

thin wind
pearl zinc
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@thin wind swap Mirael for arden or Luca and put him center back

thin wind
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Tried with arden, Vedan just ult and clear my backline. Should i just retry until Arden snare him?

dry nebula
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Any suggestions?

dreamy peak
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What would be my best lineup?

arctic pendant
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Any help ok what my team should be and whose a good carry

autumn pond
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@dreamy peak I personally would go Lucuis shermira fawkes izold maybe Nimusa or Athalia

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@arctic pendant

Belinda
Lucuis
Eiron
Saurus
Tasi

arctic pendant
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Who should carry out of those?

autumn pond
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Belinda for now until your Saurus is higher ascension

arctic pendant
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Ok thanks

candid hamlet
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Any help with next step?

drifting atlas
wet violet
spare cloud
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@timid sun id put your wukong and Mirael at the top two spots to kill Vedan as vast as possible

sick moss
timid sun
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@spare cloud my lucius getting one shot

spare cloud
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all i can say is lv up get better gear(do not level gear) etc other than playing with formation

mild geyser
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@sick moss maybe try
eironn
tasi
lyca
rowan
ferael
if u got the heroes

tardy mirage
sick moss
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got the heros, does not work

next bay
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Heard Eirron is pretty good, based on the tier list at least, and was wondering who I should replace him for. Main team is: Rowan, Ainz, Thoran, Wu Kong, and Zaphrael

(Personally I feel Zaphareal should go but idk, and of course I would level him up if he is good)

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sick moss
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B you need to not have so many characters leveled up

next bay
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I put Zaphareal in the back-center and feel Eirron should go

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oh???

sick moss
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only 5

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the rest go in the crystal

next bay
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Ok but what do you think I should do with Errion?

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Eirron*

sick moss
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i think youre too early in the game for eiron to be verygood, youre fine just sticking with the wukong carry for now

next bay
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Ok, thanks.

sick moss
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aye

mild geyser
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Try ferael tasi eironn rowan lyca @sick moss

stuck trellis
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@sick moss do u need 29-60?

sick moss
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yea i do

stuck trellis
sick moss
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problem with that @mild geyser is eironn gets onehit by athalia

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ohwait

stuck trellis
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yeah lyca tanks athalia

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only took about 10-20 minutes of retrying so not bad at all

sick moss
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was looking at it wrong, that lineup gets shredded for me still, just spam retry?

stuck trellis
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pretty much

sick moss
#

great

stuck trellis
#

brutus + numisu rng means that on bad rng everything will die in 2 seconds

sick moss
#

i had call on eironn oh my god

stuck trellis
#

call on eironn is good

tasi eironn call, rowan chalice, lyca grace, fera eye @sick moss

jaunty ledge
mild geyser
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toss ainz and put in tasi and overlevel daimon and just move things around

jaunty ledge
#

Should I reset everyone too 110?

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and get daimon to like 140?

mild geyser
#

100 or 101 and then get daimon to 140

jaunty ledge
#

really

mild geyser
#

ye

jaunty ledge
#

gear wise should i put more gear on daimon then?

mild geyser
#

if hes ur carry yes

jaunty ledge
#

I just downloaded that and have some more insight now. So gonna start following that

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should I leave Lucious at 120?

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@mild geyser

mild geyser
#

i would just get daimon as high as possible first

jaunty ledge
#

okay so 140 currently as that the highest my ascension allows

candid hamlet
#

Safiya or satrana ???

mild geyser
candid hamlet
#

Figured that would be line up help but no problem.

mild geyser
vivid basalt
jaunty ledge
#

i just get my cheeks shredded right now

sick moss
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@stuck trellis @mild geyser got the rng finally, tyvm

mild geyser
#

on some of the more popular stages where people get stuck u can use discord search and look for some ss of winning formations

stuck trellis
#

@sick moss grats on 30 izoldlove

sick moss
#

tytyty, aight will do

mild geyser
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ye i got no idea how eironn comp works but i remembered that people usually sent ss of that stage

jaunty ledge
#

what duras stuff should I have equipped @mild geyser

mild geyser
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which ones do u have

granite pier
jaunty ledge
mild geyser
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call on daimon grace on tank and eye on secondary dps or someone who likes crit

worn oyster
pliant stump
clear fjord
faint current
#

Failing at the 4x mauler challenges. Not sure what else I can try

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pale kettle
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@faint current Maybe take out Skreg and replace with am merc'd Tidus and swap the frontline position. Tidus is really good in many "4 Mauler" trial. And instead of Eironn, you can use Rowan

faint current
#

Tried that :/ I’ll try it again. That was my first idea

pale kettle
#

Vurk is nice too since at least 3 units invade your side of the field

faint current
pale kettle
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I put Safiya behind Tidus so that when he howls and makes enemies run away, Safiya can help him pick off enemies and get her to ult faster.

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Trust me, I hate 4 mauler trials too. Took a lot of retries to do it.

faint current
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+20 0/9, or +10 3/9? I got both Merced lmao

pale kettle
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For Tidus, it doesn't matter. You just want his Howl since that delays the enemy Saf from recovering her energy while she kills your team.

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Maybe the +20 one since he gets more reduced damage when he uses savagery

faint current
pale kettle
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Swap Brutus and Tidus. Swap Skriath and Safiya

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Then pray

faint current
#

Thanks! Still working on it but getting to one enemy left alive gives me hope.

pale kettle
#

Good luck. It took a lot of retries for me too.

faint current
pale kettle
faint current
#

Orthros is just making this....awful

pale kettle
#

Oh yeah, that one's pretty tough too. (Understatement of the year) but hey, only one more 4 mauler left 👉😎👉

faint current
#

Yeah 🙂 thanks for your help! I’ll try diff things

pale kettle
serene basin
pale kettle
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@pale kettle Rowan, Talene, Ferael, Eironn and Lyca in that order. Alternatively, swap Ferael with Safiya.

autumn pond
still jasper
clear fjord
#

@faint current you could try a different carry, I used Ainz merc for it

half mural
#

Any idea?

raw rune
somber shoal
pale kettle
stuck trellis
#

@granite pier will need beefed up thoran to meet power req

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i can give u my thoran 30 if u want but idk if it'll hit power req

sterile raven
#

Im stuck here can someone help me they heal very hard and my athalia cant kill nemora

formal gazelle
silver harbor
formal gazelle
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@silver harbor does your Lucius get melted front line?

silver harbor
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Yeah p-much

raw rune
#

@urban cobalt do you remember how you beat 10-36

pale monolith
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@raw rune Brutus,Rowan Front, Cecilia,Belinda,Skirath back

raw rune
#

i dont have 2 of those lol

ivory parrot
raw rune
#

try and bait silvina?

ivory parrot
#

Tried, melts bait and carry behind

raw rune
#

you have nara as well, use that on isabella, and put rosa behind or in front of mirael

formal gazelle
#

@raw rune nara better for silvina no?

raw rune
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silvina moves so idk if it works on them?

formal gazelle
#

Nara will keep her locked

whole briar
raw rune
#

oh ok, do that then

ivory parrot
#

Nara grabs silvina but silvina melts nara

formal gazelle
#

Fawks will help then I guess

raw rune
#

you haven't got a carry atm @ivory parrot you need someone at least 20 levels higher than the rest, reset everyone but mirael or saveas and get them to 120

formal gazelle
#

@whole briar don't have to worry about line up yet, also you don't have any fodder to acend anyone in Wilders. Dont make legendary if you can't make L+

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Are you stuck on a stage?

whole briar
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Yes

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Graveborn heroes

urban cobalt
#

@raw rune I used Brutus, Mireal, Lyca, Rosa and Rowan. Mireal on the front. If you don't have Brutus, try Diamon.

upper wraith
raw rune
#

hm... i only have daimon e

upper wraith
#

would anyone kindly help and give some advice?

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appreciate any helps

urban cobalt
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@raw rune can you post the stage, I can't seem to see past stages. Also your rooster.

full finch
raw rune
urban cobalt
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@raw rune You just need to lvl up more.. And that is you best setup. I had all units at 120, and Mireal at 145 to complete it. Maybe If you had Brutus, it would be better.
(sorry for late reply.. I'm caught up with other things.)

raw rune
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no problem, thanks gonna be here a long while probably

urban cobalt
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Yes. It'll probably take 2-3 days for you at the least.

raw rune
#

will give me time to get more ascensions maybe

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what about King's Tower @urban cobalt where are you there

urban stag
random hornet
#

11-38 Been stuck here for a week now

glad moat
stiff plaza
raw rune
#

i cant afford to keep losing to this person if i wanna get 1800

novel adder
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@raw rune kinda hard to defend honestly. you can beat people with significant power advantage over you on offense if you understand mechanics. Best is to make your comp as annoying as possible.
have a look at your replays.. i suspect the person is using cecelia to kill fawkes early to release his coffined unit early..
You can try tasi instead since she's harder to lockdown.

urban cobalt
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@raw rune If anything, he messed up his ascension. He need hard $ to progress normally. That's an example of what you shouldn't be building. Just ignore him.

fallow remnant
weak island
urban cobalt
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@fallow remnant Tried Lyca instead of Nara and Rowan instead of Gwyn?

raw rune
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ah yeah i should do that @novel adder

fallow remnant
#

@urban cobalt worked excellently bro thanks so much

raw rune
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the problem is that he beat me twice and a lost a huge amount of points @urban cobalt above 30,so it might happen again if don't change to tasi

weak island
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Nvm after like 50 tries if the same loadout I finally beat it

raw rune
#

and yeah you're right that cecilia killed fawkes straight away i did not notice that when i looked at the replay
ay nice soviet

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also can you check what you did for Kings tower 133? @urban cobalt

urban cobalt
raw rune
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I'm at 10-40 now lol, thanks, hm that actually seems doable then

weak island
#

Great, now I'm stuck because Mirael feels so special that she doesn't use her ult before she dies

raw rune
#

rip, got the dura artifacts? if not get them

weak island
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I've got 3

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I've tried mixing them about in previous levels

raw rune
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yep so use either call or grace either works (call is energy grâce is hp)

urban cobalt
#

@raw rune That's a Shock! irashock
I'm kinda envious you got here with low level heroes.

raw rune
#

fawkes is good lol you underestimate him

urban cobalt
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I have flawkes. but only at E

raw rune
#

you also need to understand where to place stuff so, same lol he's on crystal

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he's that useful

urban cobalt
#

Maybe I'll try himm. Thanks.

raw rune
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no problem

urban cobalt
#

YEET! Completed Ch10. Ok. It's probably because of flawks! @raw rune XD

worthy island
#

How do i setup a gwyn lineup? my estrilda sucks pretty bad and gets one shotted

undone olive
old gazelle
tawny seal
compact breach
#

Any solution for 31-56???

stiff plaza
tawny seal
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@stiff plaza Whats the outcome if you put Tasi on the front, bottom and Pippa on the bottom left

stiff plaza
#

@tawny seal still lost

tawny seal
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@stiff plaza I'm guessing it's mostly from Vedans ult right?

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@stiff plaza Also does anyone on your team get off their ult

stiff plaza
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I think 2 guys do thats it

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The healer doesnt the vampire destroy me

tawny seal
#

@stiff plaza You could try putting Nemora in one of the corners so she's not hit as much from the ult but she is kind of frail so I don't know if that would work entirely

stiff plaza
#

I changed nemora whit twins and win whit tasi litterly on 1 hp

tawny seal
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@stiff plaza Tasi is great at clutching matches because of her abilities until you fight her than you hate her until she clutches again for you

raw rune
#

told you @urban cobalt now can you let me pass lol

novel adder
#

@tawny seal try
Nemora
Lyca
Ferael
Rowan
Fawkes.
Trick is to coffin the Brutus. Charm the safiya to kill her own team. At least that was the simplest method to clear it long ago. But nemora is a forgotten entity to a lot of people haha. Have to adjust nemora's mspd with gear and call if needed

tawny seal
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@novel adder I tried using Fawkes before and he goes for Lyca even though she's the lowest level and Ascended there

raw rune
novel adder
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@tawny seal you need to do some early damage onto the Brutus. His attack increases when lower health.

tawny seal
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@novel adder yeah right now im kind of wishing I got the last 2 copies of lyca and Fawkes right now lol

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I put Eironn instead of Rowan and i was able get everybody but Brutus who was low and Safiya who was low

novel adder
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@raw rune I don't think Lucius survives that. You should try mirael mid back. But kinda hard to predict..not sure who gets coffin. But you can try athalia onto the vedan or if you have a Brutus lying around just to hold the line for a bit

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@tawny seal sounds doable with rng then

raw rune
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its hypogean mage on back left unfort, and no i dont have brutus ;;

tawny seal
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@novel adder I just got another high roll with it being Ferael vs Brutus and Brutus invincibility knocked down

dull prairie
tawny seal
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@novel adder Ferael and Safiya killed each other at the same time so I won

vivid harbor
raw rune
#

should you not be getting mythic by that point?

vivid harbor
#

I was told to wait until I was level capped

raw rune
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ah

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as in, all 5 of them?

vivid harbor
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Idk tbh. It was a while back, but I'm assuming they meant until my carry hits 160, and the rest of my heroes 140

raw rune
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oh... yeah that makes sense you need 140 to get past 160, yeah do that first

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currently I'm on 140 getting rest to 120 in 10-40 p sure i need the levels

vivid harbor
#

Well thank you for helping me indirectly @raw rune. I just used a full lightbearer team against 11-20, and I beat it. Which is amusing considering I've been stuck on this stage for a couple days now

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I took inspiration from your team :p

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Also welcome to the hero exp cap @raw rune. :))

dreamy dust
#

Tried tasi n every other wilder combo
Eironn top bottom
Rowan top bottom mid..etc
💀nothin workin sheesh , even tho im like overleveled a bit

raw rune
#

you're welcome i guess lol @vivid harbor and yeah when mirael rosa works it works, especially with fawkes

valid hamlet
#

Should I legendary my rosalinda? It’ll be my first one. Or should I wait for a carry?

vivid harbor
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Don't ascend a hero to legendary, if you can't ascend them to Legendary+ immediately

valid hamlet
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Got it!

vivid harbor
#

@raw rune is fawkes any good at Elite?

valid hamlet
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But do I wait for a carry first or would rosalinda be a good choice for first legendary+

raw rune
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yep still has tonnes of use, although the power at ch11 is probably a lot stronger so idk if he will be able to keep up there, (although you'll definitely have better armor so...), but yeah obviously make sure on crystal and not on team since you can't get past 100 otherwise was referring to what you asked btw @vivid harbor

vivid harbor
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@valid hamlet go to the pins in the #classic-questions channel. It has a beginners guide that also references ascensions. Usually you want to ascend fodder heroes to L+ (Fodder = blue cards/rare heroes)

raw rune
#

or legendary tier in portraits in heroes

compact breach
dire siren
#

Hey is there a chance to get 100Mio Boss Dmg in the Event with a Ranger Team without Drez?
I have no drez Lucretia Athalia on Elite+

timid sun
tawny seal
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@timid sun do you have extra slots to put units in the crystal

timid sun
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yes have 3 more slots

tawny seal
#

@timid sun Eironn is a really good unit who could help you

rigid birch
#

@timid sun also put talene

timid sun
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on lvl 83 are good?

rigid birch
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talene is always good
well except before 61 that when she start healing when taking dmg

raw rune
#

I'm 10-40 now @rigid birch prob gonna be here a while

rigid birch
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damn you progressing fast ma man

raw rune
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hehe rosa mirael is godly

tawny seal
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@timid sun I would try Eironn on top left Rowan back middle and Mirael bottom left

rigid birch
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yeah she was my carry through everything below level 160, mirael is the goat
i wish lilith could make her ascended ;-;

tawny seal
#

Seveas is also a really good unit for beginners. But sadly most maulers suck

raw rune
#

vedan and 2 hypogean mages as well as hypogean elite with isabella make it really really hard to kill them, honestly not even sure levels will be enough, waiting for brutus might be inevitable.

Yea she would be great a tier @rigid birch

rigid birch
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if you have 2 hypo mages in a stage maybe fawkes can coffin one and nara can grapple the other, that was my solution to these stages early game

raw rune
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oh i have nara, no slots atm though

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I'm over 150 coins away

rigid birch
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can you show me your resonating crystal?
you could possibly have put a useless hero in there

raw rune
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I've done a lot of removing when something hasn't worked

pale kettle
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@compact breach Try these
Ro1: Eironn, Tasi, Lyca, Safiya and Ezizh
Ro2: Rowan, Daimon, Ferael, Gwyn and Nara

rigid birch
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thats a real solid crystal
mehira can sometimes be interesting ankhirasmirk

raw rune
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yea lol a lot of trial and error payed off

timid sun
raw rune
#

hypogean bonus is always nice but it's never enough on its own unless mehira can do work as well

timid sun
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eironn got one shot

tawny seal
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@timid sun I was thinking Mirael bottom left Eironn top left and lucius bottom right

raw rune
#

tasi and lyca definitely feel too weak atm though, they are suffering unlike fawkes, definitely need that e+ boost, so does lucius actually

rigid birch
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its kinda awkward having mehira rowan and mirael on the same team, they all need center back

raw rune
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I've never had mehira centre back wtf lol

rigid birch
#

@timid sun
Lyca
---->Rowan
Eironn
---->Talene
Numisu
@raw rune
wym she needs center back for her charm

raw rune
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eh I've never needed it

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not in the centre anyway the charm has definitely helped though

faint current
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They don’t NEED center back, either one. Both are often used in different spots. They just hit more targets that way

timid sun
#

who is lyca

rigid birch
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wilder support that gives haste and has defense break
you can get a lyca mercenary

pale kettle
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@timid sun bunny girl on deer

timid sun
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i dont have her

raw rune
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apart from that she's too squishy same with tasi, they really need to get the elite+ boost, idk why fawkes is still managing lol

rigid birch
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merc her otherwise eironn cant pull spider lady and vedan in the middle

pale kettle
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@raw rune Fawkes has naturally high dodge and he slows down single targets

faint current
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Maybe consider not using Eironn until he gets mythic gear

raw rune
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true

rigid birch
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@raw rune Tasi teleports to the enemy side which basically means walking to her inevitable death
Mehira sacrifices her HP at the start of the battle so a silvina can destroy her
Fawkes stays backline and has a faction advantage with the rest of your team maybe, hes a ranger so he can dodge

raw rune
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tbh, tasi is dying before she teleports atm lmao

faint current
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Mehira sacrifices HP for bats, giving survivability

timid sun
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where i can get lyca

rigid birch
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not before silvina attacks her
if mehira gets to her ult its good times tho
@timid sun you can get lyca from a chapter reward, untill then you can just merc one or pull her from a summon randomly(if you have her on the wishlist, which you should)

raw rune
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atm that's not much the power is generally too much

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so there's no way i can deal with this until i level up a lot or get nara?

rigid birch
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you can try for rng
once mirael ults you're good

raw rune
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rng is really not in my favour, really not... vedan is so strong if he gets ult off its basically game

rigid birch
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oh wait u have athalia
Thats good you can take care of both hypo mages

raw rune
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yes?

rigid birch
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athalia does the same thing as nara basically

faint current
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Has Arden been tried instead of Fawkes?

timid sun
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when i cant get lyca atm,how im supposed beat this

rigid birch
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hypo mages interrupt arden i think

raw rune
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"take care" arden dies instantly and that

faint current
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Oof

raw rune
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since they hit the whole battlefield

rigid birch
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i think you just put athalia on one and let fawkes coffin the 2nd
Im thinking of rowan tanking isabella, because his immunity refreshes once isa attacks rowan, a slow pattern

raw rune
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really doesn't work, athalia does like no damage to them

rigid birch
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you dont need damage from athalia, just the cc
all damage comes from mirael

faint current
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^ honestly until 240, only your carry is doing any damage

raw rune
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everyone dies before she does it

rigid birch
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you can maybe try mirael vs vedan and brutus vs hypogean elite
rosa out

raw rune
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rowan dies quickly rosa dies quickly fawkes dies eventually, bruh... i dont have brutus ;; that's the 3rd person who's told me

rigid birch
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k so maybe try this
Fawkes
---->Lucius
Rowan
---->Mirael
Athalia

raw rune
timid sun
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my whole team get one shot when vedan use his ult ...

rigid birch
#

Fawkes
---->Rowan
Arden
---->Mireal
Athalia @raw rune
idk maybe

faint current
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Give it a couple retries Arden can be a bit RNG with his roots (who he targets)

rigid birch
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i think i had this stage's replay saved but it was like 3 months ago, ill try to search for it

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@timid sun See if eironn pulls in vedan and ankhira without lyca, if not put call on eironn, if he dies too fast reset mirael for this one and level eironn to 120

raw rune
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hm... mirael seems to just miss the ult when he ults

rigid birch
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call on mirael
or eye whichever performs better

raw rune
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yes call is already on unfort I'll try eye

timid sun
rigid birch
#

swap eironn and nemora

raw rune
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ok that's even less close with eye

timid sun
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doing worse than before

rigid birch
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do vedan and ankhira get pulled in?

timid sun
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i dont know

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numisu doing nothing there

rigid birch
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he was supposed to either give haste to eironn or put a totem to taunt all of them
can you try recording a replay of what happens?

raw rune
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dang... i got the ult in @rigid birch but vedan lived

rigid birch
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@raw rune did it crit?
mirael critting should wipe out vedan

raw rune
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can't remember

rigid birch
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did it show a red damage number?

raw rune
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oh i still have the battle open, can show damage

rigid birch
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and was written as "K" not normal numbers

raw rune
timid sun
raw rune
#

it gets so laggy sometimes

rigid birch
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@timid sun you have call on eironn?
the artifact

timid sun
#

what is call

raw rune
rigid birch
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@raw rune thats as close as you can get imo, keep retrying and you should get the stage

timid sun
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@rigid birch what you mean " call" ?

rigid birch
#

i edited the message
the artifact you get from peaks of time 3

vast meadow
timid sun
rigid birch
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then theres no other way than getting a lyca merc @timid sun

@vast meadow who does silvina go after?

timid sun
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but i dont have her 😦

vast meadow
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@rigid birch rowan

rigid birch
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@timid sun then get a lyca mercenary from one of your friends
@vast meadow
Ferael
---->Tasi
Lyca
---->Rowan
Eironn
If niru doesnt walk down, then swap tasi and lyca

ancient axle
#

i have only this
@timid sun same

timid sun
#

@rigid birch how?m

rigid birch
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Go to campaign -> Friends -> Mercenaries -> Click on a lyca and then lend
and that HoganLUL

ancient axle
#

The lender must give permission too🤣

timid sun
ancient axle
#

Rip

rigid birch
#

wanna add me? i have a good lyca merc
@timid sun

random hornet
ancient axle
#

11-38 finally beaten. Perhaps this will help someone else struggling here
@random hornet congrats

timid sun
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wanna add me? i have a good lyca merc
@timid sun
@rigid birch ye sure

ancient axle
#

Wait what...Hogan?

faint current
#

@ancient axle Yes Hogan. First 5 units you ascend and level should be Mirael/Hogan/Saveas/Silvina/Arden

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Aside from Wukong 1-100 (big god)

ancient axle
#

Oh I see

vast meadow
#

@rigid birch Thanks. Adding ferael lyca didnt work because silvina targeted ains but putting the ains in frontline worked with rng in this situation.

rigid birch
#

gz

faint current
#

You wanna use resonating crystal to copy their levels and try out other heroes, go ahead. But those 5 are the ones you level and ascend first.

queen hazel
raw rune
#

nah arden really sucks in this matchup @rigid birch i either need brutus or a good tank, this seems like the better setup with fawkes probably on back right to slow vedan's ult down but with lyca being someone who can actually tank unlike lucius at elite

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rigid birch
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maybe a mirael double ult can get the dub

raw rune
#

rosa dies everytime

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but yeah it would definitely be enough

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have to pray i either get e+ lucius, a brutus, or e+ rosa

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because i dont see any other way of beating this

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maybe lv120 everything would be enough but that will take a few days

timid sun
rigid birch
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nemora is useless here lol take her out for fawkes or rosa

timid sun
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i dont have fawkes and rosa

rigid birch
#

send a screenshot of your heroes

timid sun
#

okay i changed nemora for wukong and won

violet merlin
#

can someone help me with 15-40? I hit a wall...

raw rune
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how do i stop this happening on my defense (as in where I'm not choosing who to battle) ? i changed fawkes for tasi because i lost to eironn twice to the same person @rigid birch

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rigid birch
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they have a higher crystal level + tasi banishes mirael, maybe try athalia on tasi and see if mirael can get to an ult before tasi sleeps/banishes her

raw rune
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if i do athalia then i don't get rid of opposing prob not worth it

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maybe i should just go back to fawkes and accept that I'll lose to eironn

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losing 31 points sucked though trying to get to 1800 for the quest, before the losses i was 1758 now I'm 1717...

rigid birch
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@raw rune you can try banishing shemira with fawkes and tasi with athalia belinda is squishy so your mirael can easily wipe out the enemy

raw rune
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this isn't matchup specific this is in general losing to teams like this, this is arena of heroes where the "formation" is being used,i cant know what the opponent is gonna have i can only plan for stuff

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and removing one of their roles will probably make me lose even more so I'll just go back to fawkes for now

rigid birch
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you cant always win
there is always gonna be a counter to your comp
the goal is to make a comp hard to counter

raw rune
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yea fawkes did that for me p sure, except eironn

random hornet
raw rune
marsh nymph
rigid birch
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@raw rune mehira out she's useless here, put mirael up front with rosa under her and rowan at mid with lucius behind rosa and fawkes behind mirael
@marsh nymph
Shemira
---->Lyca
Rowan
---->Talene
lucius

wispy galleon
pliant stump
storm meadow
tawny seal
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@wispy galleon Numu isn't that good so replace him with safiya

wispy galleon
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Unfortunately I'm thinking it's a busy for now. Im hardstuck at level 160

rigid birch
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golus out for satrana and give her your best intelligence gear
@wispy galleon

blissful parcel
rigid birch
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nara that mehira, eironn vs ezizh, lyca vs nara and rowan tasi
Nara
---->Rowan
Tasi
---->Eironn
Lyca
Try swapping out tasi for safiya or ferael and see who performs best

raw rune
rigid birch
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gz

raw rune
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rosa wasn't doing anything so i thought I'd try athalia and it worked great on mirael

rigid birch
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thats why u adjust formations for each stage

blissful parcel
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hmm i wanted to be stubborn and not use Nara merc but it seems to be the only way huh

rigid birch
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nara screws up mehira
no shame in using a mercenary nara

blissful parcel
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Finished it, thanks alot!

rigid birch
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gz

wary mica
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Lucius and Belinda die too quickly

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I have an E Rowan but that doesn't seem to help much

rigid birch
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take raine out and put in rowan, center middle
Rowan doesnt need to live for him to heal

turbid vessel
rigid birch
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this formation should work but that goddamn ferael sneaks in a fear and breaks the chain arrows

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granite pier
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@stuck trellis hey pippi, do you think I can try using ur thoran 30? I have none that meet power req rn 😦

storm meadow
bitter hinge
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any thoughts on formation? wanted to here some ideas and make sure i am utilizing the best formation i can

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pale kettle
stuck trellis
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@granite pier yeah sure
you couldnt use the non thorna one?

pale kettle
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hey! any ideas for a formation? kind of a newbie so yeah :P

raw rune
pale kettle
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perhaps take out mirael for lucius?

wide breach
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Best mauler(s) to ascend to stop sucking at tower? Low on fodder but got enough copies for numisu, khasos, skriath and anoki

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pale kettle
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but you could also replace arden with rowan but idk

hasty panther
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hey guys, I was wondering if I kinda messed up for a general team to use during campaign? I'm mostly using Lucius/Wu Kong/Rowan/Belinda/Lucretia but I kind of took out Lucretia for the graveborn archer

fresh bloom
vapid hazel
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Just got the game, was wondering who I should have on my team

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mild geyser
vapid hazel
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okay thank you

burnt harbor
vapid hazel
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@mild geyser i am missing one of the supports, who can i use to replace them?

mild geyser
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just use wukong for now

compact breach
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@compact breach Try these
Ro1: Eironn, Tasi, Lyca, Safiya and Ezizh
Ro2: Rowan, Daimon, Ferael, Gwyn and Nara
@pale kettle

Thanks for answering, I just saw it. I am going to try

exotic jay
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last stage of ch 16

dusky lion
mild geyser
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try swaping lyca and eironn and try to have lyca dodge her

exotic jay
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@mild geyser could you also help me please?

dusky lion
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Thanks. And @exotic jay you have anyone who can cc Arden?

Also don’t ascend shemira now. You have Belinda so just gonna save you in the future

exotic jay
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hmmm lemme see

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alright i wont ascend shemira

mild geyser
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dont make so many L heroes

exotic jay
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yea i found that out a couple days ago lol

mild geyser
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try nemora + lyca and see if nemora charms arden and has him root his team

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then have belinda ult on kaz while shes rooted

exotic jay
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ok so nemora lucius, belinda, lyca, rosa?

mild geyser
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no rosa use rowan. Personally rosa died too fast for me but it may be different for you

exotic jay
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oh yea sorry rowan

mild geyser
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there are usually two routes with belinda, cc them and have belinda ult on them lots or have belinda double ult with rosa. I was a fan of the former

exotic jay
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ok thanks ill try those our, and ur comp worked thanks!

dusky lion
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I had same issue with Rosaline

mild geyser
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the only time i ever used rosa was to bait silvina onto her instead of rowan but now i just sack rowan

raw rune
rigid birch
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@raw rune if fawkes banishes vedan then you can try
Fawkes
----->Lucius
Mirael
----->Rowan
Rosaline

raw rune
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maybe brutus would make it possible but rn i dont have them, and no they do the back left hypo

rigid birch
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have you used this weeks mercenary?

raw rune
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yeah a while ago, i wouldn't have hesitated to use it earlier if i had it

rigid birch
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wait actually
does lyca enable arden to root

raw rune
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i think i tried that but I'll try again what position

rigid birch
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Fawkes
---->Arden
Lyca
---->Mirael
athalia
swap lyca and arden if arden gets interrupted

also maybe rosa in for athalia if arden can outspeed the mages, put on arden your best intelligence boots(yes strip mirael)

raw rune
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arden just dies currently

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he already has the best boots actually

rigid birch
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looks like the hypo mages are faster

raw rune
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well... arden dies in like 2 and a bit hits

rigid birch
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try
Fawkes
---->Rowan
Mirael
---->Rosaline
athalia

this is the winning formation no doubts

of course fawkes coffins one hypo mage, the other is cc'd by athalia

raw rune
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the problem with most of them is that vedan gets off his ult before anything happens, since 2 hypos give them +25% energy recovery when injured which really doesn't help

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and i have literally no way to beat his ult

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I'll show the damage one sec

rigid birch
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keep retrying untill mirael beats vedan to her ult first

pale kettle
rigid birch
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send heroes

pale kettle
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can anyone loan me a high level mercenary? Can't beat this peak of time far frontier

rigid birch
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  1. please auto ascend in the temple of ascension, it will save alot of space

Lyca
---->Lucius
Rowan
---->Shemira
Nemora

if nemora charms grezhul before the hypo mages attack her then you should be good

raw rune
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tried over 20 times at least @rigid birch , also changed positions and artifacts a few times, none of them were narrow, only time they were narrow and sometimes happened Was when fawkes was back right

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since fawkes slows vedan down

pale kettle
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I tried that actually but both of them die 1 s to the battle ,😫 will try again.though.... but does auto ascend mess up my feeher heroes? I have never used that function I thought it will ascend the heroes that I dont want to and waste my feeder?

sharp notch
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Hello i was told to come here to ask myy questions im at the point where my characters are all level 100 (having a hard time ascending them higher) and my charactes are dying a little to fast or i feel like they dont really..work at this level any more

rigid birch
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@raw rune fawkes banishes vedan or hypo mage?

raw rune
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as i said, back left hypo, which yes causes problems

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behind the hypogean elite

rigid birch
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hmm

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i think i won with

Fawkes
---->Lucius
Rowan
---->Mirael
Arden

if i recall correctly
that was 5 months ago dont judge me

raw rune
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huh

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lucius was high level then?

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or e+ since mine is only e

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because my lucius just drops

rigid birch
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i think
Lucius was like legendary or smth

raw rune
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oh lol

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that makes more sense then, probably actually classifies as a tank at that point

vernal berry
sharp notch
raw rune
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stop levelling more than 5 characters @sharp notch ,reset the other 5,put them in the crystal if you must

sharp notch
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the others have been those levels for a while

raw rune
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either way reset them

sharp notch
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its the top 5 that im using mostly atm but i seem to be struggling to do anything lol

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im also not sure if theres like...a meta lineup or not

raw rune
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First off reset those and zaphrael and then level saveas to lv80 and then level shemira as high as possible

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you won't get anywhere if you don't reset

sharp notch
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well im glad i get to keep shemira she seems to be doing the best outa everyone lol

raw rune
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only reason I'm saying that is because you have them legendary ,they're not actually good yet

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best would be saveas or mirael after ascensions until lv160, and then after lv160 shemira should be replaced with someone else if possible so

sharp notch
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im still learnning how the game works mostly but im under thhe impression id be uusing the crystal to use different characterrs

raw rune
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yes, even more reason to reset those 5

sharp notch
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why all 5?

raw rune
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because you don't need levels on things you're never gonna use

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they are way too low level

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just gonna hinder how high you can get your top 5

sharp notch
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dont reset all 5 attm i take though

raw rune
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what

sharp notch
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you where talkin about reseting all 5 i take i wouldnt do that right now

raw rune
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yes do it now

sharp notch
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.> then id have no characters at a high level to do..anything

raw rune
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i dont mean the top 5 i mean the others that you have levelled for no reason

sharp notch
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oooooh confused me m bad

raw rune
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and reset zaphrael as well

sharp notch
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already did zaph i def wana keep lucios and nemora iv been reading they get good later on

raw rune
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nemora is much much later on, you can always put them on crystal, same with lucius, your priority should be fodder heroes outside of crystal

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can't change your carry right now really but, adding hogan and ogi to your team will definitely help (both are fodder heroes)

sharp notch
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not to make this harder bt i am a tad confused im not sure who or what is a fodder hero i guess id levell up my legendary and slap people into the crystal around her?

raw rune
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meaning they are much easier to ascend to get your crystal higher, where you can put the ascended tiers like shemira (but obviously you want shemira to stay levelled)

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if you go to heroes and then portraits, go to legendary tier. all of those heroes are fodder tier

sharp notch
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those are heroos id put in the crystall?

raw rune
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nope, other way around

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since fodder tier heroes are more common, it means you can ascend them quicker, giving you higher levels on the crystal

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the crystal takes the 5th highest level on your team and gives everything in there that level regardless of their ascension

sharp notch
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so i shoulld be ascending those i get from the pulls alot?

raw rune
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only fodder tiers

sharp notch
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also i cant seem to level up shemira any more and kinda confused

raw rune
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show me your heroes again please

sharp notch
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give me a moment

raw rune
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can you check how many available spaces you have in crystal?

sharp notch
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iv got 5 atm

raw rune
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oh cool

sharp notch
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iv been trying to unlock more i figured i was gonna need to do tthat i justt didnt unnderstand what to do (also sorry for typs keybored is kinda fucked)

raw rune
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definitely hogan, arden and ankhira should be added to the team

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so I'd say reset belinda and lucius for now, and also reset nemora, then level up ankhira, hogan, nemora, arden all to lv80

sharp notch
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They keep there ascended levels yea?

raw rune
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yes

sharp notch
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So they goal is to put fodder hero’s on the crystal and save the rest for later?

raw rune
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no, put fodder heroes on team, and put other useful heroes on crystal

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once you've gotten them to lv80 I'll think about the ones you should get on crystal

sharp notch
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I could get everyone you listed to 80 in a moment

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Reset everyone that’s not my legendary?

raw rune
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yep, and then add back the 4 i said at lv80

sharp notch
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give me a moment

rigid birch
sharp notch
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m elite + hogan or just my normal blue hogan?

raw rune
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the highest possible on each

sharp notch
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igh soo jsut max out hogan dont stop at 80?

rigid birch
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just used the merc

raw rune
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no i meant ascension tier not level get them all to lv80 for now

rigid birch
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my own daimon is getting ascended next month given i get enough fodder

i hate skreg with a passion

sharp notch
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okay i cant ascend the rest any more atm so 80 them it is

raw rune
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i was just meaning the highest one you have of those heroes

sharp notch
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was i suppoose to do ogi to or nnah?

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there all to 80

raw rune
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nah ogi isn't that good arden has way more use

sharp notch
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ight

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bt yea got everyone yyou listed to 80

raw rune
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so from what i can see, now put saurus, khasos, lucius and izold not sure about belinda yet

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on the crystal i mean

sharp notch
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okay

raw rune
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screenshot the crystal screen when you are done

sharp notch
raw rune
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yep that looks good, so now you can level up shemira more probably

sharp notch
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im doing a bnnch of labyrinth tryiing to get arthur to but idk if ill make it looll

raw rune
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aiming for dimensional heroes is more useful, dont buy him yet

sharp notch
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shoould i juust throw as many levels as i can into her?

raw rune
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for now yes

sharp notch
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got her to 120

raw rune
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nice, so you'll need to get the other 4 to lv100 to level up more

sharp notch
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might nont be able to do othem all atm

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yea i cannt so i guess get them to 100 annd pump more levels into legendary?

raw rune
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yeah that's the idea, even if shemira may not be as reliable as you think right now, but it will probably be good for a bit, since you already have them legendary which gives her a lot of increased stats

sharp notch
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all right ill work oon that and thenn come knockin back later\

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allso what are dimensional heros cause im not quiet used to alll that xD

raw rune
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Arthur is a dimensional hero, but you'll want to get albedo or ainz by exchanging labyrinth coins, guild coins, hero coins and challenger coins

sharp notch
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also should i put gear on these crystaled hero's to or just the fodder team?

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oh iv got a bit of a thing foor whattever reasoon if i use ainz my phone dosent like it lol

raw rune
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depends if you're using them, if you're not using them it doesn't matter

sharp notch
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oh i tthought we put em in the crystal to use em o.o

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guess ill go for albedo

raw rune
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Well yes, so you can put armor on all of them

sharp notch
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ah

raw rune
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but it's not required totally up to you

sharp notch
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seems iv got a lot of farming to doo

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do no guild atm so no coins

raw rune
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you've not joined a guild?

sharp notch
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no not yet

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not sure who will take me lol

raw rune
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ok join one of the ones being advertised in #guilds that look good, they don't have to accept you you just join

sharp notch
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okay ill look innto it

raw rune
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any other non-lineup related questions you should ask in #classic-questions btw @sharp notch there's a lot of people there to help

sharp notch
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i can tell i just started playin this like a month ago so iv not joined up herre till last night

raw rune
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just saying

sharp notch
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OH actually yea line up still who would i putt infront annd back? i take melee in front unless they have a teleport?

raw rune
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carry and tank should generally go in front (shemira and hogan) and then the support at back