He's insanely tanky and deals dmg 🤷🏻♀️
#lineup-help
native wave
minor garden
i mean ur not wrong
quiet cypress
Guys I've been stuck all day.. don't know what to do I tried a lot of different formation, it still doesn't work
Can you help me ?
Here is a picture of my team and enemies
And the characters I have
native wave
Lol the good old 9-32
quiet cypress
native wave
#lineup-help message
This is me last week
mortal crypt
Should I make any changes since I am closing in on lvl 141 with some of my heroes (I need fodder desparately ik
raw rune
oh just noticed hogan gets regen at 101 gonna prioritise that atm then
blazing portal
pale kettle
use brutus
strong flame
Any pointers on what comp to use?
vivid harbor
I previously tried using him, but the results were mixed. But, thanks anyways as I just beat the level by using rowan.
I ended up relying on the faction bonus
@pale kettle Thanks once again! I used brutus to beat 11-8
thorn coral
I can’t beat this level!
Any suggestions?
random bay
Can I get past this one? Any suggestions? Or just wait for rewards to lvl up heroes?
native wave
Mirael as dps
thorn coral
@random bay I would switch hogan out with Thoran
devout path
Any advice on how to pass? I’m also able to merc if I need to?
open grove
What do I do to get past this
lilac shard
@open grove read the pins in the guide section, you should only be leveling up 5 heroes, what you have waste XP, should reset some of those heroes you are not using and use the Gaines XP to over level Mirael , the person in your back center slot
quick lion
nvm RE: 31-18, shifted Ferael down and his cc can rng save Tasi's life giving me a shot
dusky mirage
any advice?
sand breach
Need help been stuck all day any advice?
rugged bane
Survivability seems to be my main problem here for some reason, and the mercs haven't helped much.
tacit marsh
Wow already have an ascended hero
deep ice
undone halo
Guess I'll have to put it here. Was told to build eironn because it pairs well with someone else, but i forgot the name. I think it was from grave born. Anyone remember the name?
deep ice
Pls help pe
undone halo
@deep ice no factional bonus.
rugged bane
@tacit marsh they're mercenaries
mint viper
Is this possible with heroes I have?
tacit marsh
Oh didn't realize that
trim dawn
Trying to figure out my best loadout I can do at the current moment with what I have. This is my current team but this is what I have. Any suggestions?
deep ice
Pls help pe
@deep ice pls help me build a team for that level
amber badge
@trim dawn I’d swap nemora for Belinda or wiling personally. I’d also put thoran in the back row and tasi in front unless she dies instantly
rugged shadow
amber badge
Can anyone help with a formation? The merc is a 5* eironn or whatever
@rugged shadow you should link your ainz with the witch lady and use him instead I’d probably swap Rosalind with Damien
trim dawn
@amber badge Thanks for the advice!
ionic turtle
Hi, can I ask for advice for challenger formation here?
Need suggestion for 3 teams for challenger
maiden marsh
Any advice or am I just pushing it a bit too far at this point
ionic turtle
This is my current formation but i keep get beaten up by players with similar power lvl
weak island
Ideas?
maiden marsh
Reset saurus and brutus and level belinda and rosaline. Consider resetting everyone to level 101 and getting belinda much higher as a carry
@weak island
weak island
Idk why but Belinda never works for me, maybe my front line isn't good enough but like
maiden marsh
Put her behind brutus, he can tank for at least 5 seconds. Also use rosaline to feed her ult energy
weak island
So
Belinda
Brutus
Rosaline
Some other tank
Tasi/Nemora/Arden?
pale kettle
Suggestions for team?
unkempt field
How?
eternal salmon
weak island
@maiden marsh Btw, who should I use for my 2nd front line hero? I can't decide now that I look at it
maiden marsh
I didn't see you had daiman lol. Use tasi bottom front and daiman bottom back
tacit marsh
@maiden marsh I think your pushing it a bit too far
I'm on the same one
But hero's are higher and I'm still struggling
maiden marsh
Yeah it's really rough when 3/5ths of the team is literally oneshot lol
Have to get really cheeky with heroes that can contribute while either dead or being excessively piled on
Worst case scenario I merc it in a week, though my ainz is almost SI+10 which should be a win.
muted mulch
rare karma
Can someone help with 29-54 please?
maiden marsh
I'd use belinda as carry instead of mirael and use lyca instead of arden
@vivid harbor
vivid harbor
Mmmm, while I don't mind resetting my heroes...I was told that mirael is a better carry than belinda (at least around my level)
mystic hornet
Can anyone help me with this? I really wanna finish this so I Can begin chapter 16 🙂
violet igloo
@mystic hornet you need to get shemira to lvl 200 asap, and get her M+, then you'll unlock. Try and avoid making sooo many heroes to legendary. I suggest you read the 1 page guide pinned in this channel
mystic hornet
Yeah I just learned that a few minutes ago, will deffo avoid that 🙂 Currently waiting on getting one more grave fodder to elite+ and I will get shem higher 🙂
violet igloo
perfect. At least you have shemira, good sign.
mystic hornet
Thanks! Kinda hard to progress fast in this game as f2p imo
quiet verge
should i keep arden or switch him out for tasi? (ch 18 atm)
stiff bane
@quiet verge its dependent on stage, but he will probably insta die really soon
quiet verge
should i switch when he starts dying quickly
stiff bane
yea you should just fodder him to tasi/lyca or w/e
quiet verge
i want to make sure i wont need him before i use him for ascensions
stiff bane
you are really close to the point of him being useless (if i remember correctly)
molten ledge
Hey, been playing for around a week or two now. Wondering which heroes to prioritize. I just been YouTubing videos and I watch a lot of the volkin dude. Any info or help is much appreciated. Thanks
sand breach
Can someone help me? Been stuck on this lvl all day
pale kettle
Help this noob make a line up
unkempt field
How?
narrow crypt
pale kettle
How?
plush patrol
Need help with this
stiff bane
@pale kettle why do you have more than 5 heroes leveled? reset them and spend the resources on only 5 heroes. you will have a much easier time getting through these stages
pale kettle
@stiff bane I am a noob. Which heros should i focus on?
jolly tide
Can I get some help making a lineup?
random bay
Can someone help me with this one?
stiff bane
@pale kettle the ones you can get faster to higher ascension tiers, but for now id go belinda, rosaline, wukong, hogan, pippa.. when u get a saveas focus on him, try to get a better saveas asap
theres a lot of guides for which heroes you should build and when so just look it up
pale kettle
ok Pippa is a limited time one so should I swap him out for the magic girl in the bottom right?
stiff bane
use daimon, didnt notice shes limited
mild geyser
@narrow crypt I would remove either brutus lucius or saurus and put in nemora and have her charm ferael
mild geyser
I would suck vurk and have brutus tank the saveas
wintry dune
So for whom should I put Brutus in
mild geyser
izold albedo or thoran
wintry dune
Okay I'll try it thanks
mild geyser
also dont ascend L if u cant L+ cuz rn ur level capped cuz of that
wintry dune
Yeah true thank I realized it to late I won't make that mistake anymore
raw rune
yea @vivid harbor until you can get belinda to mythic using mirael she's more reliable but can prob work if you have rosa
pale kettle
Is there at least a 0.001%? Chance of winning.
raw rune
finally got enough rng
oh boy... silvina is back
ok because it wasn't a boss stage i still won
is it worth using my mercenary to get the gems for 10x summon or is there a positioning where i can win this
unkempt field
Anyone can help?
open fossil
I have a lot of problems with this enemy group. Any good counters to use?
mild geyser
charm ferael or nara/athalia him
raw rune
looks like i dont need it, shows how much levels help, and how much I'm underestimating saurus
raw rune
i feel like I'm really close to beating this one, so any formation tips?
pale kettle
Suggestions for a general team?
velvet belfry
@pale kettle hogan daimon front
wu kong belinda rosaline back, make sure belinda is highest combat power for rosa
raw rune
any formation ideas or should i just pray to rng
rocky crescent
Which formations for this one?
royal thorn
What is a good comp to build around daimon?
flint marlin
ls rate that for level 120ish:
Front: Hogan + Skreg
Back: Mirael + Rowan + Rosa
Feel free to suggest units i can chase of even if i dont have them. But dont use units that are p2w pls
eternal ocean
What should I do here
plush patrol
what artifact to use on daimon?
mild geyser
@plush patrol call thats also more of a #classic-questions question
autumn pond
Any help not sure how to beat this
rare karma
Can someone help with 29-60 now please?
vivid harbor
This is an alt acc. So any advice on potential heroes I could run? I wanna challenge myself/ switch it up a bit, and not go with the same carry heroes I usually do on my main acc. So, whose a better a carry, Daimon or Zaphrael?
mild geyser
@rare karma
eironn
tasi
lyca
rowan
ferael
rare karma
@mild geyser Tried that - Athalia and Safiya tear my team apart
raw rune
gdi lost to a stalemate
mild geyser
try Tasi Call, Rowan Chalice, Eironn Blade, Lyca Grace, Ferael Eye
raw rune
and again...
vivid harbor
Is an elite saurus even good in campaign?
raw rune
saurus is great
has gotten me through quite a few stages today
don't underestimate him
keep stalemating saveas though
weak island
@vivid harbor he is upto the end of chapter 8 besides the last few stages, but that's if we're talking about specifically elite and not elite+
raw rune
finally
weak island
Might just be because of my current comp though
vivid harbor
I'm not underestimating him, but I feel like a support would work better. Especially, since you have saveas as your carry. The only experience I have with saurus is using him in guild hunts. But, my copy is only elite
so, take my opinion with a grain of salt
topaz dawn
New player heard shemira was good early carry have i stuffed up investing so much so early in her?
grand perchBOT
Hello @topaz dawn,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
autumn pond
How do I beat this?
weak island
@topaz dawn Nowadays Daimon is better in every aspect apparently, but Shemira's pretty good too
topaz dawn
dang well to late now honestly any ways stuck with her for now ;p
raw rune
nah the extra damage plus him having a shield for extra bulk really helps him perform well as a strong tankish thing @vivid harbor
and plus he also stuns with his attacks
topaz dawn
ill def have to add him to my wishlist then
vivid harbor
@raw rune I mean you know your team best. So, run whatever works tbh
novel sun
Nara keeps sniping whoever I put in Ankhira's place and idk how to kill the enemy's nemora. 😦
raw rune
yea i might change later when mirael is ascended higher but rn works great with saveas
topaz dawn
would a mirael beat out shemira pre 161?
mild geyser
yes
wispy tartan
Tips? Nemora and numisu do so much healing and Arden cc on top of that makes it impossible to kill people. I'm timing out.
topaz dawn
dang.. i def def should of went that instead of foddering her 😦
raw rune
you're stopping the charm?
vivid harbor
I mean she's a rare. So, you could easily obtain more copies of her
flint marlin
uhhh, anyone?
"Pls rate that for level 120ish:
Front: Hogan + Skreg
Back: Mirael + Rowan + Rosa"
"Feel free to suggest units i can chase of even if i dont have them. But dont use units that are p2w pls"
Yes, Mirael Carry, i could use someone else carry if its more efficient, hogan + mirael is being very costly for me lol
weak island
I'm assuming Mirael's the carry?
Not sure about Rowan at the back, I'd rather have some healing like Nemora or Tasi
vivid harbor
I usually place rosa in the front
and use/have another support hero in the backline
flint marlin
hummm, so rosa runs to the backline and have hogan tank alone on front? smth like that?
vivid harbor
Yea, but my tank is lucius. So......
weak island
Rowan usually dies pretty quickly for me, but I've said that about Belinda before and I'm using her rn so Idk
vivid harbor
You could try putting mirael on the frontline, as it honestly depends on the enemy team/stage.
flint marlin
i have tasi, i could work on her, didnt know she was formidable healer
vivid harbor
she's a healer? I thought she just banished, and put targets to sleep
vivid harbor
ah her fairy, but it's situational as it can either deal dmg or heal
sterile raven
Can someone help menout I cant pass this stage
flint marlin
yeah, i dont think she can do a main healer stuff, more like secondary healer, and i dont have nemora so......
vivid harbor
try and aim for lucius. You get a free copy once you acquire 50 elite heroes (ascending rare heroes to elite count as elites)
weak island
Ideas?
flint marlin
i think there is a problem with your account overall. All your main heroes (highest levels) are non-fodders. You will have crazy amounts of trouble leveling your account that way. I suggest you leveling the 5 main fodders so your crystal units can get higher
vivid harbor
does silvina target tasi?
pale kettle
why do you have belinda leveled up and belinda in crystal
raw rune
lol
sterile raven
i think there is a problem with your account overall. All your main heroes (highest levels) are non-fodders. You will have crazy amounts of trouble leveling your account that way
@flint marlin me?
flint marlin
@weak island
raw rune
silvina prioritises mages so probably not
pale kettle
take off belinda from crystal and put arden instead, and put arden in that team in place of daimon and try
raw rune
silvina being a pain as usual
just before chapter 9 really infuriating lol it doesn't even seem that hard
weak island
Jesus, how do you have 3 level 5 ascended already
raw rune
those are mercenaries not mine
weak island
Ah
raw rune
I wanna save those until I'm super stuck which rn i am not
flint marlin
@weak island cuz since you didnt level the fodders as main, you will take like..., 5 times or more to level your other units, unless you fix, and that might stagger your progression. It took me a while to realise that.
raw rune
just gonna wait for reset then sleep unless someone has any advice
weak island
@raw rune I'll let you know if I find a solution, I'm on the same stage
raw rune
yea i noticed but you have other problems rn lol
weak island
Fair enough
raw rune
oh wow you have daimon I'm not sure if that works yet
weak island
@flint marlin I still don't get what you mean, you're suggesting that it's faster to use heroes who cap at a certain tier? Makes sense on one hand but just want to clarify
raw rune
probably does but i guess you can't get them to elite+
flint marlin
fodder heroes are easier to get ascended. like, ALOT easier. so your units on the crystal resonance will be at the level of the weakest one. So, lets say, how long will take for you to get enough belinda dupes to ascend her? and what about mirael? your belinda could be higher level than she is right now, see the point? Ascendance and leveling up are 2 different procedures, entirely
weak island
Fair enough. So should I put Belinda on the resonance crystal rn?
flint marlin
heres what im doing tomorrow after my resonance crystals cooldown ends:
-
reset all the non-fodder heroes i raised
-
switch to raising one fodder of each faction, with the exception of lightbearers, which will have 2 (prob hogan, mirael, saveas, the dark elf and the undead girl)
-
put all the non-fodder units i have on the crystals
weak island
Ah
raw rune
I've done vedan personally got more copies of them
weak island
Wait no, pretty sure Belinda and Co. Still max out at 120 even if I have 5 heroes higher than that, but besides that that's a pretty good strategy
raw rune
the crystal caps your heroes out at certain thresholds even if you can level up more unless the rest of your team is a certain level
marsh nymph
Help pls
sly cobalt
Help? A 9000k guy passed with this but idk the artifacts
uneven oxide
Hi I just started the game yesterday and am a total noob. Can you please help with my lineup just to get thru the main game? Thanks!
mild geyser
@sly cobalt maybe try something like
eironn
tasi
lyca
rowan
ferael
Tasi Call, Rowan Chalice, Eironn Blade, Lyca Grace, Ferael Eye
sly cobalt
Like this?
strong flame
What comp should I use?
silent forge
mellow ember
I'm currently maxed out and I don't know if I should prioritize eironn over wu kong, any suggestions?
tired dove
Stuck on here. Any suggestions?
quiet verge
setup for this?
hallow forge
Any ideas for a line up?
stuck trellis
@pale kettle anything i could do better here? im trying to figure out how to position with thoran
i was thinking maybe lorsan for ezizh but not sure
ye
i could probably take out fera
maybe slot in nako
liike I think my r2 is good, but was just wondering if i could make it less rng somehow 
yeah
i can pop brutus shield before thoran revive, so I think i could just manual second thoran ult
oh ok, good to know
what would flora do there cause theres no tasi to proc?
frozen hull
Suggestions?
opal holly
New player (PVE focused) looking for help with an Ainz comp
royal thorn
This is the comp that has gotten me the absolute closest. Any other suggestions?
tropic barn
can anyone help with 33-60?
fathom osprey
What should I use
pale kettle
Ainz or Albedo
dusky hazel
@pale kettle tried the formation a few times with no luck. Got close once but I've probably done 30 or so retries
random bay
Guys where should I use the 10 faction scrolls I just got? (both shemiras were summoned, saving labyrinth coins until I figure out what I'm gonna do
autumn pond
Start of s742 what should I build as carry?
dusky hazel
@pale kettle no luck
worthy island
Any advice for kt 427?
all the lineups i've seen use safiya but mine is pretty bad
vivid basalt
Can I get some help I'm stuck? I have spots in resonating Crystal as well if need be.
hallow crown
urban lagoon
Help, I am stuck.
dusky sage
silk drift
Help
visual mirage
Any suggestions for 19-20? I’m underpowered and not sure if I’ve hit my cap without a merc. Heavy ezio build currently
pale kettle
@silk drift Feed Arden to Eironn and use him, Belinda, Rowan, Rosa and Lyca. In the meantime, build another Arden and lvl him up too and feed Hogan to Belinda
silk drift
I was going to do that but people in #classic-questions told me to keep Arden as I would need him for a while
I do have one E+ Arden but I am not sure how long it would take to build another one
I was saving Hogan for Rowan when I get enough copies
pale kettle
@silk drift Arden's cc is very powerful, but you're very close to mid game so it's time to start making a strong carry team
@silk drift you can ascend Rowan at any time. Right now, try and make that Belinda as high ascended as you can. Rowan still does a great job at low ascension.
silk drift
If I feed both Arden and Hogan my 5 heroes on crystal will be missed up
pale kettle
@silk drift you don't feed both right away. At least feed the Hogan. Then build another Arden to L+. You'll hit a dust wall eventually, so you have plenty of time summoning and ascending.
silk drift
How about this? I used Rosa because I already have 7 copies of her
pale kettle
@silk drift what do you mean by used Rosa? You didn't feed her copies away, did you? Cause she's really good.
silk drift
No I mean used her in crystal instead of Hogan
pale kettle
thank god xD
@silk drift oh good. That's fine
i would kill to have 7 copies of rosa
i currently only have 2
silk drift
Yeah I got lucky with her but I lack in other heroes
So can you help me with this line up?
pale kettle
@silk drift put Rosa frontline and Belinda back. Rosa reduces damage taken on herself when she follows someone.
silk drift
Still not working Mirael gets to ult before my Belinda
pale kettle
What should i be focusing on with current heroes? Stuck on ch10-19
raw rune
is it worth using merc on this stage? idk if i can beat a team like this with isabella and silvina otherwise
omg yes
YES lucius
pearl scarab
Any input very much appreciated
toxic flame
@pearl scarab the kelthur is probably messing up ur eironn. Try
Safiya
Lyca
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Also try ferael in place of saf if ur still having trouble
rigid birch
@pearl scarab try to put call on eironn see if he interrupts kelthurs teleport
bc i think i did it once
fading kiln
how should i align my heroes?
feral plaza
This mess is what I have. Early in the game I got rid of a few s tier hero’s sacraficing them to upgrade another. I’m stuck currently in campaign because of my mistakes early on.
toxic flame
@feral plaza well luckily you are not level capped. You can still raise your level to 160 which is what u should do. I assume nemora is only lvl 160 cuz ur using ainz carry?
feral plaza
Nemora is connected to Ainz
And ainz is by far my best unit with his mythic gear @toxic flame
lilac sandal
Can someone help me with figuring out what to do next? I'm returning after a long break and dont know what to work towards. I'm not sure who to use as my team as well as who I should focus on? https://imgur.com/a/WDmlsMN (Also I swear on my life this isn't nsfw its just pics of my team but discord wont let me upload them)
brazen wadi
Change the saturation of your pics, discord is weird
lilac sandal
Noted, but my question?
rigid birch
@pale kettle if you put cecilia infront of athalia at that stage cece goes to raine and maybe you put a brutus vs thane so he absorbs all the heat from athalia and thane since athalias facing spot is vacant
@lilac sandal i have a meeting in like 20 min but i maybe able to sneak in some answers
feral plaza
What about me and my line up?
rigid birch
can you quote your picture please?
lilac sandal
Oh nice ty
rigid birch
@feral plaza someone probably told you not to get too many heroes to L, so im just gonna skip that
since you bought ainz here you cant reroll the account, so id say build around him
good heroes that synergize with ainz are similar to daimon, you'd want him to ulti as fast as possible
aka beefy tanks (lucius, skreg, hendrik)
energy supports (rosa, rowan, lyca)
energy cc (ferael, nara, rowan's energy steal)
and finally healing(talene, lucius, rowan)
brutus can sometimes fit in a position with way too much pressure/enemy dps
lilac sandal
@rigid birch So I'm returning after about 2-3 months of inactivity, but wanted to start playing the game more seriously again. I'm mainly wondering what my team comp should be like as an average use kinda thing, but also what to focus on building - Unit wise (like whom) as well as things like SI wise. I'm not looking for something super in depth - unless its really worth explaining i guess. Maybe oak inn focus? that wasnt in the game last time i played
royal parrot
hello i kinda stuck and I have no idea how to deal with it xd I will have 4 free spots soon on crystal :P
low ravine
You should level up your fodder heroes (saveas, hogan, ogi) and put the heroes you use (solise, tree man, lucretia) on the crystal. Because you can ascend the fodder heroes way easier, which means you won't get level capped.
rigid birch
@lilac sandal
heroes synergies depend on where u are in the game
early game:
anything works really, possibly mirael/saveas/shemira/belinda
mid game:
Shemira Brutus + 3 wilders (lyca tasi nemora)(brutus out for rowan/lucius sometimes)
Shemira Lightbearer (fawkes lucius rowan rosa)
5 Lightbearer (same as above but belinda in)
late game/end game:
eironn saurus Lyca Rowan Tasi (amazing burst team, tasi can be subbed out for lorsan sometimes, eironn and saurus burst)
Eironn safiya Lyca rowan Tasi (best f2p late-endgame campaign team, eironn with good gear, rowan as an offtank and tasi as a tank with her mitigation)
Gwyneth arthur lyca hendrik/estrilda rosaline (win condition is gwyneth melting the backline lyca 20 si required for max dmg, arthur si 10 minimum for crit, rosa 20 si for damage)
Godcomp (most expensive, best performing so far, talene/saurus rowan ezizh mehira(Tasi) twins) perma lock enemy unable to ulti for the whole fight while talene ramps up from her si and slowly eats through the enemy
variation of the eironn safiya, with a 3pc furniture skriath allowing eironn to pull all 5, in that case tasi is subbed out for tidus, turns around and fears the whole team so the 3 carries here are eironn>tidus>safiya.
if you have furthermore questions you can dm me due to slowmode
royal parrot
@low ravine so with this lvls could be impossible to do that? 🤔
amber halo
Big rips I'm stuck
low ravine
@royal parrot I see that you are leveling Lucretia, that tree guy, and that turtle tank dude. But you only have those heroes on Elite. Max level for Elite heroes is 100. If you reset those heroes and level Saveas, Hogan and Ogi instead (which are Elite+) you can level them up to 120.
royal parrot
ye ikr, I were just wondering if I can do this without this kind of moves heh, but ok, I will go for it I think :P
fallow remnant
any advice is appreciated, thank you, fo let me know if just going afk to get rewards is better too
low ravine
Leveling fodder heroes is always the best choice early game. You CAN progress without doing it, but it will be way slower.
ivory parrot
I have a spot in the resonating crystal, who do I put in and which comp would be the best for this? Also, are the levels enough or should I still afk? (Stuck on this for 24h)
rigid birch
raine/mirael out
lyca/nara in
@ivory parrot
ivory parrot
raine/mirael out
lyca/nara in
@rigid birch enemy mirael still wipes the stage with ult. Welp, waiting time.
rigid birch
@ivory parrot nara on mirael should work
ivory parrot
Tried, but it doesn't
rigid birch
maybe try arden in the crystal, and put him where lyca was
wintry dune
can someone help pls would be really nice
wintry dune
and what with albedo?
rigid birch
shes linked to estrlida shell be fine, give her ur 2nd best strength gear
wintry dune
okay
ivory parrot
Nope, arden does mot (btw, reset lyca to level him up and made him e+ for faster future progression)
wintry dune
@rigid birch and what lineup should I use
rigid birch
Lyca(nara if theres an annoying backliner)
---->Wukong
Rowan(get him asap) sub for arden till u get rowan
---->Hendrik
rosaline
pale kettle
Can anybody help me out here
low ravine
@worthy steeple You should level up your Hogan, but you don't have to use him. Tho he is pretty good in frontline together with Lucretia
Also focus on Mirael, ascend her to Legendary+ first. She can be a really good early game carry if you put her in back mid
stiff plaza
@low ravine any tips for me?
low ravine
@stiff plaza You currently have Hogan on your crystal, but you should level him instead. If you want you can ascend Belinda to Legendary+ and level her up too
worthy steeple
So, if i use hogan, who do i swith out?
low ravine
@worthy steeple What team are you using rn?
golden marsh
is saurus a good dps for newbie?
worthy steeple
Im currently us9ng Lucretia, Wu Kong, Archer, Belinda and Cecilia
Luc and Wu are my current front line
low ravine
Put Hogan in frontline instead of Wu Kong (Wu Kong is actually pretty squishy). You can use Wu Kong in your back row tho
worthy steeple
Who do i take out?
low ravine
I dont't have lot of experience with Cecilia, but you should just try some teams out and see what works best for your backline
worthy steeple
Im only using Wu cuz he has h8ghest defense curmrrebtly
Cecilia seems to be first to die along with Belinda
pale kettle
I'm stumped, could someone help me please please please? https://i.imgur.com/5pmsnM7.jpg
low ravine
@worthy steeple That's because you have Wu Kong higher level. If you level up your other heroes to around 60 too, this could work: Hogan and Lucretia frontline, Gwyneth, Belinda, Wu Kong or Cecilia backline
worthy steeple
Fair enough... thanks
I iust dont have the XP right now... trying to max out Luc
Only reason i want to use Hogan is cuz hes my first elite+
dense knoll
Currently stuck midway through ch13
Is there any lineup I have to push through? Also should I link albedo to another hero to actually use her?😅
low ravine
@worthy steeple Just focus on Lucretia, Wu Kong and Hogan with leveling. Use Wu Kong as your carry
worthy steeple
Okie
pale kettle
dax help plzz
worthy steeple
Wukong is actually pretty good, currently... he survices either l9ngest or seconr longest
low ravine
@pale kettle Rosaline is pretty good frontline, have you tried that?
Swap Daimon and Rosaline
pale kettle
i did that
low ravine
Didn't work?
pale kettle
nope :/
stiff plaza
What team should i make
low ravine
@stiff plaza put Tasi instead of the ice fire dude
Tasi is a really good support early game
dense knoll
@low ravine can I get some help for lineups pls?
low ravine
@stiff plaza No, I meant Grezhul. sorry 😅 the twins are really good
rigid birch
well thats an interesting way to phrase grezhul...
low ravine
He has like blue fire hair right? lmao
rigid birch
yeah lol i never heard anyone describe him that way 
low ravine
@dense knoll focus on Eironn as your main carry as you are already doing. Then build a comp around him
dense knoll
@low ravine what about albedo? Should I link her to someone else?
low ravine
Tbh I don't have a lot of experience with Albedo, but you can link her to Lucius too if you want.
dense knoll
Alright, ty for the advice
rigid birch
make sure rosa follows rowan(as always) in the 1st variant to stunlock the enemy team @dense knoll
dense knoll
Ok Tyty
stiff plaza
@low ravine so like this ?
low ravine
Yup
lapis oar
May I have some help on this stage?
amber topaz
normal sparrow
Could I have some tips for early game formations?
tidal sun
pale kettle
Can someone help me with lineups? Like 2 or 3 to rotate when stuck
foggy grove
Can someone help me with field of stones? Not sure what comps to run
warm girder
Someone can help me with this stage ? Stuck here for a bit, Tasci always banishes Shemira
obsidian bobcat
long eagle
Suggestions???
raw rune
lol so satisfying to see silvina getting countered
rapid hamlet
I’m stuck can u line up this?
south latch
Hey guys, been stuck on 17-28 for a while, Brutus frontline with strong backlines are giving me problems
shrewd meadow
I've been stuck on 10-19 for 3 days, any suggestions on what I can do to progress?
tall maple
@south latch is belinda your only mythic?
south latch
M+. I'm 1 copy of Belinda from ascending but dont want to use arena coins. I've been RNGd on like 100 faction scrolls, faction cards, several gem summons, it's a pain tbh
tall maple
can i see all your heroes?
south latch
tall maple
hmm, i think you should consider gwyneth, she's very good
south latch
I'm aware Gweyn is good, but I don't have copies to ascend her fully either and Belinda is already M+
tall maple
i would put belinda at the back with rowan and arden, and lucius and hogan at the front
keep rowan in the middle
south latch
Hogan and Lucius get 1 shot without Talene heals instaa
tall maple
oh i forgot about her haha
lucius is good, saveas is the best hero at your level
if brutus is causing you problems, you could use your brutus to tank him with last gasp
i personally would use saveas, talene, rowan, brutus, and maybe skriath?
south latch
... you realize he gets capped at 160 and I have a level 200 Belinda no?
tall maple
factional boost is important, belinda is squishy
you can put rosaline on the crystal and see if with rowan, she could give belinda enough energy to ult and kill
and use arden to vine. reset until you get the problematic enemies vined
talene could be your last slot
do you have any mercenaries? that might help too
south latch
All the heroes you keep listing are getting 1 shot, including Sav. That's the point.
Rosaline is already in the crystal. Her ult doesnt kill because Brutus gets the shield, thats the point. And Sav got 1 shot.
tall maple
rosalines ult gives belinda her alt
you just have to survive long enough until brutus no longer has last gasp
south latch
Rosaline needs to live long enough to get her ult and bels ult
tall maple
again there's no fixing a level gap, but you also don't have many options due to not having room to ascend stuff
try other modes like peaks of time and misty valley, you might get resources to build your other heroes
i could give you a mercenary to get past this stage, but it would only be a temp solution
have you been progressing king's tower? i don't know when factional towers unlock, but if you have them unlocked you should use that
here's my info if you want to get a merc off me
seeing how a good portion of your enemies are graveborns, my 30+ eironn might help, especially with his freeze
feral plaza
@feral plaza someone probably told you not to get too many heroes to L, so im just gonna skip that
since you bought ainz here you cant reroll the account, so id say build around him
good heroes that synergize with ainz are similar to daimon, you'd want him to ulti as fast as possible
aka beefy tanks (lucius, skreg, hendrik)
energy supports (rosa, rowan, lyca)
energy cc (ferael, nara, rowan's energy steal)
and finally healing(talene, lucius, rowan)
brutus can sometimes fit in a position with way too much pressure/enemy dps
@rigid birch
So what team do you recemend with what I have
rigid birch
can u send ur heroes, i dont wanna scroll back 3 light years thx
rigid birch
id say
1.lucius
2.Skreg
3.Ainz
4.Rowan
5.Nemora/Tasi
chrome oxide
Started a few days ago, but unsure of a good lineup. Any ideas?
void glade
hi guys. i started playing a few days ago, and i’ve just hit a wall.. can you help me out? i dont know who to focus on, maybe reset? should i just start over?
distant nymph
Can you guys suggest some good lineup. I can upgrade any hero required so ignore the levels.
jagged knot
Been struggling to find a consistently good lineup any help is appreciated
raw rune
any tips? grezhul is really tanky, and niru gets his ult off really quickly and surprisingly strong
weak island
Tips? I was using Belinda but apparently Mirael's way better 1-160, so Idk
severe escarp
I have an hour left on my trials for the dimensionals, and I'm trying to finish chap 27 before. Can someone help me with a lineup for this stage?
distant nymph
@severe escarp if it's the Arena of Trials thing, there are vids on youtube which give good suggestions. I watched vids from a channel called Volkin games and it helped me a lot
severe escarp
@distant nymph it's stage 27-52 of the main campaign. I'll keep that in mind for the next arena of trials though!
distant nymph
Yeah I just realized what you said. Sorry about that@severe escarp
severe escarp
All good, still appreciate it!
upper nova
I can't fking beat 10-40, 7 tries up to 10 I end ud fighting vedan and lose because time's over
Help me please 😦
rigid birch
reset lucius and level daimon,
1.Rowan
2.Daimon
3.Lucius
4.Athalia
5.Tasi
@upper nova
upper nova
The problem are the mages on top and bottom right, because right at the start they do an AoE skill that melts whoever's got <50k hp
rigid birch
maybe put athalia on one and nara on the other
long eagle
Haaaalp please 😭😭😭
jagged knot
15+ tries and still here
tender ivy
@long eagle switch albedo and ainz
solid sandal
Help 24-60 I want my faction summons 😦
tender ivy
@jagged knot try switching daimon for rosaline and move talene to the front
marsh nymph
Help pls
jagged knot
@tender ivy 1st try tysm ❤️
tender ivy
Yeah no problem
timber stone
need help please
tender ivy
@solid sandal try switching rosaline for gwenyth or put another tank in the front and move shemira to the back
raw rune
i dont even remember how i beat it @weak island tbh
any advice for this #lineup-help message
tender ivy
@marsh nymph Nara back line against the most annoying hero.use Brutus and daimon for frontline.use lyca for speed boost and Belinda for heals
@timber stone use ainz instead of Rowan and if wu Kong is dying to easy change it for hogan
@raw rune use mirael in the middle back line as she can do damage to all of them,use saurus against tanks as he can do al lot of damage against them
timber stone
@timber stone use ainz instead of Rowan and if wu Kong is dying to easy change it for hogan
@tender ivy thanks for the response but ainz is linked with hogan, and wu kong died too fast
tender ivy
Then try and use saveas as a frontline instead
timber stone
it got worse lol
raw rune
the rest of the team is too frail for that unfortunately
have to use fawkes to not get charmed
cloud gull
help please
rapid hamlet
Please help me with line-up this
tender ivy
Oof then use hogan as frontline if his stronger than saveas
raw rune
you talking to me?
tender ivy
No I’m talking to adnn
raw rune
oh ok
tender ivy
@rapid hamlet definetly replace anoki for shemira in the crystal as she is way stronger and deals a lot of damage
tender ivy
@cloud gull use gorvo against grezhul and saurus against ulric.Use shemira back line and Belinda and tasi or Rowan
Is a decent line up just get another tank or warrior in frontline so that your back line doesn’t sue very easily
weak island
Tips for this? I can probably beat this level specifically, but for this kinda enemy comp, what's the best loadout?
Also, should I upgrade my Mirael to 160?
weak island
Aight
tender ivy
Also, should I upgrade my Mirael to 160?
@weak island yes you should since she’s a good carry in the early levels and she’s the only legendary you have
@raw rune yeah your almost there just keep trying and maybe you’ll get it
@weak island try switching Mariel with rosaline and instead of having tasi in the front maybe use wu Kong
tender ivy
Who is ainz locked/linked with?
Try and use estrilda in front of ogi and luscious in the other side.Then use tasi and fawkes to get rid of basically 2 hero’s for a short time and gwenyth in the middle back line @supple inlet
raw rune
should i run my own nemora to counter their nemora?
tender ivy
Try that see if that helps
distant nymph
What Lineup should I be using here?
hybrid storm
Not sure if I post in the right channel or if it belongs in questions but pretty new to the game, which line-up should I focus on out of the ones I’ve pulled so far?
tender ivy
Early game focus on Mariel and shemira for damage.Hogan and estrilda for tank.And Belinda or Rowan for support @hybrid storm
@distant nymph use hogan and albedo for tank/frontline and use ainz,Belinda, and nemora for back line
hybrid storm
@tender ivy thanks, appreciate it
tender ivy
Also only focus on five hero’s to level up
hybrid storm
Yeah I’ve only leveled 5 of them rest is in crystal. Should I ascend any of them to legendary or wait til I know which ones I don’t need
tender ivy
Just try and level up the most higher tier hero
weak island
I am once again asking for your cranial support, sorry lads
supple inlet
Try and use estrilda in front of ogi and luscious in the other side.Then use tasi and fawkes to get rid of basically 2 hero’s for a short time and gwenyth in the middle back line @supple inlet
@tender ivy ainz is locked with safiya atm. the 1.lucius,2.estrilda, 3.tasi, 4.gwyneth,5.fawkes (swapped 3 and 5 and tried multiple times) comp got annihilated as soon as ogi threw estrilda onto the backline
tender ivy
Move Mariel to the center move tasi to the back and keep rosaline next to Mariel @weak island
Then try using a character that has a lot of health against ogi @supple inlet
raw rune
you should stop using wu kong he's not great at this point
weak island
Ik, Tasi wasn't working though so someone suggested Wu Kong
raw rune
replace tasi with arden on your team
supple inlet
Then try using a character that has a lot of health against ogi @supple inlet
@tender ivy thats lucius, ainz and safiya for me (unless i put someone else into resonating crystal) safiya can stay alive the longest against ogi but im still getting destroyed, i guess i will have to wait for more dust so i can keep leveling up before i clear this..
raw rune
still really stuck on this
weak island
@raw rune Sorry to say but that made it way worse
haughty shoal
I'm on 9-33, wondering what type of team I should be using and who I should focus on leveling.
Also, what team should I use for Soren Guild Hunt?
I probably didn't do good at choosing the ones to level up higher, I know >~<
raw rune
i use them in basically every battle
reset shemira and make mirael your highest
you can still keep them on your team
haughty shoal
So who should I be using in a team? One team for story stuff and one for Guild hunts
raw rune
i use the same team basically and i usually use a mercenary
raw rune
as in same team for both
haughty shoal
Alright, and who should I have in my team
raw rune
oh uh ignore that one
ok looks like i haven't beaten my record with mirael yet that's annoying so i can't show you
haughty shoal
Alright, well I'll keep up my screenshot, I can try lots of different things for team composition and such
raw rune
but yeah shemira will be great for guild, so you can get a different merc, rowan isn't as useful in guild so you might want to get lucius merc for that (you can hire 3 at once)
haughty shoal
If I return a Merc can I get a new one that week?
jagged knot
stuck at 9-24. any suggestions ?
pale kettle
Anyway to win?
marsh nymph
Help pls
pale kettle
Any advice?
eternal ocean
What should my lineup be I'm on chapter 12 and should I switch around some character levels?
tiny forum
I need a replacement for thoran cuz he keep dying in the first 3 second
pale kettle
This is the closet team ive gotten with any tips?
raw rune
you have no carry, show all your heroes?
you've also done 5 legendaries that aren't l+ and aren't fodder which is a pretty bad idea
normal sparrow
Any tips for early game?
visual hare
I see
raw rune
seriously stuck on this one
river lintel
Been stuck for a bit, any tips?
lament birch
does anyone knoe the solution!?
coral pier
@lament birch https://afk.guide/bountiful-trials-event/
@river lintel Too many carries, you don't need 3
river lintel
@coral pier ?
coral pier
Safiya-Gwyn-Shemira, you only need Shemira for damage really before lvl 240 in that team
Also if you can, take safiya to lvl 180 and shemira to 220
solid sandal
24-60 :/ stuck! Want my faction scrolls ! ::
raw rune
I'm stuck
young spruce
Im stuck at 8-20anyone help pls
river lintel
@coral pier Ah. Safiya is level 200
exotic jay
anyone got a lineup I can use?
raw rune
really starting to hate this level
coral pier
You don't have many options really, just Belinda carry with Rowan-Nemora-Tasi-Lyca should be your best shot @exotic jay Alternatively replace one of the 3 wilders with twins if they live long enough for ult
exotic jay
alright cool thank you
coral pier
Ideally you would want to use Daimon as main carry because he is the most op carry in the game
But you need more copies
exotic jay
yea i used to run daimon carry but got lots of copies to make belinda and nemora mythic
so just bad daimon rng :((
coral pier
Belinda also falls off really hard as a damage carry while Daimon will work at any stage
river lintel
@coral pier So then what should I run for that level? Of 18-36
exotic jay
oo ok i see, also where should I put each of them?
coral pier
@river lintel Maybe Shemira-Lucius-Lyca-Rowan-Fawkes would be your best bet. This is not really ideal at all compared to the meta and you should look into endgame meta comps.
coral pier
Call or Eye on Belinda, and just slot in all the other stuff according to your results from test battles @exotic jay
exotic jay
alright cool thanks
mild geyser
Any ideas?
raw rune
what about mine @coral pier
coral pier
@raw rune Post a pic similar to other so I can see heroes, can't really give advice on a battle results screenshot
@mild geyser Do you really need the Brutus? Lyca or Tasi would help in that comp.
mild geyser
He’s just there to stall. Tasi doesn’t live to ult and when she does she’s the last one alive
raw rune
coral pier
@mild geyser Rowan can also stall in that spot
mild geyser
Putting in lyca helped. Ig it’s time to just retry and mess around. Thanks
Is lyca for damage or just haste cuz I’m just sacking her so ezio can live
raw rune
well they also lower def so technically damage as well
coral pier
@raw rune Arden instead of Fawkes maybe, you are pretty close to your potential with those heroes at that stage. Switching positions around could also help
undone steeple
I just started and pulled The Risen Warrior, he any good?
coral pier
@undone steeple Saurus? He is a must have for all bossing content. He is also very good for campaign and some pvp comps.
raw rune
thanks it worked eventually
coral pier
Nice
stark dew
Any ideas ?
raw rune
definitely possible lol
vedan boss oh no
unsurprisingly, it's only vedan left everytime with his stupidly annoying ult which i have no idea how to beat except killing him or stopping him before he does i
coral pier
You just need to outdamage or cc vedan, not much to it
raw rune
ccing isn't very easy with their own arden and nemora
but yeah he's 100% the wall, living at like 2% some rounds, and if he died there i would win
coral pier
Sometimes you just need the rng
raw rune
yeah
hushed wadi
river lintel
@coral pier Alright, thanks
raw rune
ok vedan rng is actually ridiculous no Idea how I'm gonna get lucky enough to kill this thing
slate torrent
Stuck at this stage, advice?
or should i just afk for the day..
raw rune
the charms, the roots, and killing vedan before he can kill you
slate torrent
Oh, i should go dps, cc, and heal, thanks.
mild geyser
@slate torrent https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/774355833139625994/image0.jpg
raw rune
if you thought that was directed at you it wasn't @slate torrent
i was referring to how hard my current stage is
slate torrent
It's alright, i still passed.
haughty shoal
I posted earlier and my question was never really answered, only partially. Then it kinda got swamped with other posts. So, I'm reposting again to ask who I should be using on a team. I'm at 9-33
raw rune
Well as i said earlier you should make mirael your highest level hero
daimon could honestly still replace shemira probably, but it's probably fine having them same level as the rest (with mirael highest)
fringe falcon
Is there a team comp i should focus from this roster? I have the diamonds to reset a few if needed
raw rune
i have really grown to hate vedan, stopping me every single run, no way i can kill him
haughty shoal
That's not really an answer to my question because a team is 5 heroes
pale kettle
haughty shoal
You named 2 of them, and sorry I didn't mention my normal team isn't all the legendaries, I forget some of the names
raw rune
because saurus is good and belinda is not really worth not using, not sure about the last one though, so that's the changes i think need to be made
oh so which ones are then? generally you should only ascend stuff that you're going to use or it's fodder (like mirael or hogan)
haughty shoal
I forget the names of some, my front is Daimon and Izold(?) With my back being Shemira, Khasos, and Nemora/Namisu(?)
weak island
Still stuck on this, got Daimon to L but that 5th hero really has to seal the deal, no one's strong enough in the front lines (PS Old screenshot, so ignore the loadout, but the helo list is up to date)
haughty shoal
Sometimes I switch Daimon for Saurus and also Khasos for Belinda
I've been switching out Izold for the legendary mauler now and again also
raw rune
oh khasos is nice, nemora is the healing one (you can check names by clicking on them btw) not great apart from charming, shemira as I've said daimon is better, izold idk if it's worth using him this early on
undone steeple
as a new player, is Mirael worth leveling? I see in the guide she is listed as a "carry"
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pale kettle
@undone steeple yup
undone steeple
uhhhh, 2?
raw rune
she's pretty bad early game
haughty shoal
I read in global chat at one point that Shemira was really good so that's why I prioritized her over Daimon
raw rune
but when you can start ascending she is good. leave her for now @undone steeple go for wu kong
pale kettle
she's pretty bad early game
@raw rune actually, theres the one place that shes used as a carry
weak island
@haughty shoal That's pretty old, Daimon's just better overall
raw rune
global chat isn't this discord @haughty shoal,much more experience here
undone steeple
my lineup is Ainz, Albedo, Tasi, Saurus, Lucretia. Should I take out someone for Mirael?
pale kettle
oh, but that still early game
raw rune
yea, my bad for that but I did clarify in next bit
pale kettle
haughty shoal
Alright well thanks for the help, I'll make Mirael my #1
raw rune
no problem
pale kettle
Alright well thanks for the help, I'll make Mirael my #1
@Kate.#8166 so, i wouldn’t do that
you will use her as food for belinda soon
raw rune
until then, it's a good idea, she's a good carry before 160+
and belinda really isn't that great especially without rosa
pale kettle
How dare you saying that
raw rune
huh if you mean personal preference then sure I'll take your word for it
pale kettle
i built rosa in map 20 and Belinda carried till there
worthy sand
Shemira > Belinda as carry ngl
raw rune
as i said, without rosa not with @pale kettle ,she's usable with
but still mirael is worth using before 160+
pale kettle
@raw rune i said shes VERY usable without
raw rune
she's really not that usable she dies very quickly
weak island
Idk what I should use for my front lines, Brutus dies fairly early but that's his job, but nothing I've used lasts long enough
pale kettle
not if shes used as a carrier
worthy sand
honestly I have no clue how many times I have used Mirael to feed heroes, that would be a cool statistic to calculate
raw rune
i tried them as a carry and they did
raw rune
she didn't feel reliable at all
weak island
I could've had an L+ Mirael but I used her earlier for another copy of E+ Rowan 
pale kettle
weak island
Idk, he wasn't as good as my other tanks, but that's prov because of my team and the fact that he was like E+, though I was already saving up copies of him cuz people said he's good
pale kettle
He is pretty good
raw rune
Once he gets to lv121, he has unlimited potions if he stays alive
raw rune
lol I thought you meant them... yea you shouldn't have done that lol hogan < mirael
weak island
Well duh lol
raw rune
but it's fine at least your hogan will be reasonably tanky now
weak island
Oh nonono, I've used two of three E+s of him I had for the Mirael
raw rune
oh ok
pale kettle
raw rune
omg i hate this stage I've tried like over 40 times and haven't gotten enough rng probably not possible
dusky hazel
What's this bs. Someone help
mild geyser
I would first toss raine rigby thane ogi and vedan from ur crystal
spring gyro
I just did those for clearing labrynth when I got screwed over after dying in stages, but ill do that
obtuse sun
mild geyser
@spring gyro https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/774355833139625994/image0.jpg check ur wishlist just in case cuz u have some questionable heroes in ur box. I would put in hogan or level him if u need a tank
raw rune
here you go @haughty shoal
pale kettle
undone steeple
is Pippa any good? New player here
coral pier
@raw rune Focus levels on mirael instead of slowly levelling all heroes from 100 to 101 and then to 102
arctic pendant
What should be my main team? I pass a stage and get stuck for days at a time. Help please
raw rune
just moved down rowan one level to level up mirael again
but 101 is important since it unlocks new abilities @coral pier so I'm keeping those
coral pier
Yeah the 1 extra is good, but I was just wondering the 102
raw rune
yeah i removed it
coral pier
Well no need to reset for 1 level, I just thought you were levelling all of them like that
raw rune
lol i was iffy about levelling since i got mirael, just wanted 101
I just thought since rowan is good I'd give him a level
coral pier
Yeah just pump the carries up with exp when you can
arctic pendant
Anyone wanna help me build a decent team comp?
coral pier
@arctic pendant You don't have that many good options right now, but maybe Shemira/Belinda-Rosaline-Nemora-Arden-Tasi
carmine cairn
I'm stuck on 8-24 and I can't level most of my heroes past 100, can anyone help?
coral pier
@spring gyro You are using Mirael and Saveas, pick 1 and level it as high as possible. Also Wukong instead of hogan.
warm swan
@carmine cairn Remove Twins from that line-up, Silv gonna 1-shot them for sure. Reset Wu and shift to another carry, and overlevel him/her (Saveas/Mirael)
spring gyro
@coral pier okay, but who should I replace Mirael with?
coral pier
@spring gyro I just noticed that your saveas is level capped, you need to ascend him asap
spring gyro
Im trying, cant get more copies of him. Made that mistake earlier on.
carmine cairn
@carmine cairn Remove Twins from that line-up, Silv gonna 1-shot them for sure. Reset Wu and shift to another carry, and overlevel him/her (Saveas/Mirael)
@warm swan thank you for helping! I actually got through the stage with that exact lineup '-' when Lucius was able to ult and shield the twins so they could ult, that was it
But Wu is not a good carry then?
coral pier
Looking at your heroes now I don't think you even have that good of a mirael substitution. Maybe Arden, Rosa or Nemora, but other than that you might be a bit stuck. @spring gyro
spring gyro
Okay. I'll try those. Thank you
warm swan
Congrats! Wu will start to fall off so you can start preparing a sub for him. But if he still works for you, then you can keep him. For now. @carmine cairn
carmine cairn
I guess my only option is to overlevel mirael then? I'm already having trouble again (8-27) and since I now will have to basically level 1 hero only (cause others are capped) should I not use wu as a carry?
Right now, the only Elite+ heroes I have are these 4
warm swan
If he works, then you can keep using him. But yeah, you're gonna get capped soon, so you might need to start to shift your line-up so you can L+ legendary tier heroes. I see you have fodders already set-up so it's just a matter of who
feral plaza
Any advice how to salvage this? As you see I made way to many random legendarys...
coral pier
@feral plaza Stop making legendarys, no real way to salvage that other than to not make the same mistakes later
feral plaza
I know that but I’m asking what units I should focus on???
Should I focus on a single faction? Should I use specific units as a team? Should I buy albedo? Ext
coral pier
Daimon-Rowan-Saurus are solid ones at least. You should focus on 1 faction, I recommend wilders. Yes you should make good teams. Yes you should buy albedo.
feral plaza
I have more maulers and light bringers than wilders though
coral pier
Yes but wilders are generally the most useful. Lightbearers are good too, but don't have as many meta units. Maulers don't really have heroes that make a good team together.
feral plaza
Thinking of linking labido to skreg. Albedo is linked to goat
coral pier
Depends on who you wanna use
void geyser
Been stuck on this boss for a while any suggestions
feral plaza
I’ve been boosting the hell out of ainz, so he doesn’t have to wait to use his ult there’s no five second wait for it to pop. And generally if he uses it twice it’s game over
He’s my teams carry
Maybe albedo, ainz, Rowan, but im unsure about the others. Currently stuck with assassin nun, and nara. Both are good assassin units.
coral pier
Nara is the more used one out of the 2, better cc
pale kettle
Just started what team?
stable wave
7-16, more stuck than I normally am. Usually progress quickly to Chapter 8 in Day 1, but I can't now.
nocturne furnace
Any suggestions?
pale kettle
Hey everyone. Been playing about a week now and I’m not sure how to build my team yet. I’ll post what hero’s I have and will take any advise. Thanks!
solid sandal
Would like help 24-60
pale kettle
Should i trade for Ainz?
nova ravine
Am i doin this right? Any i should be focusing on instead or
stuck trellis
use merc and its easy win
tepid sequoia
That’s my merc tho, not that good for this one @stuck trellis
stuck trellis
merc +30 saurus and its ez
or +30 eironn
lilac sandal
wait that didnt work how i wanted rip me
https://i.imgur.com/3uVWRay.png
https://i.imgur.com/s0QRMV7.png
https://i.imgur.com/Yt7xuKn.png
can someone help me voyage? Because my team gets insta on shot on the first fight
tepid sequoia
Saurus and Eironn always used by someone else
sterile holly
I’m stuck any ideas
stable wave
Stuck at 7-16
safe thicket
I’ve plateaued a bit and I’m trying to adjust and tweak my lineup. I feel like Albedo is my weak link, but I’m not sure on what direction to go to improve.
pale kettle
How?
modest pagoda
The mirael and khasos wipe my heroes once they get their ults, tried like 10 times
ember pasture
I'd swap Saurus for Shemira.
modest pagoda
shemira fking sucks, saurus survives longer and does more dmg
torn stag
Should I level up mirael to take over WuKong and also add rosa to my team
pale kettle
shemira is act pretty good
hearty hollow
My main team v who I have. Any recommendations?
past urchin
Does this make any sense for Burning Brute:
Twins
Saurus
Rowan
Baden
Cecilia
warm ocean
Could use some help
fading kiln
where is the best positions for my hero’s?
pale kettle
Help
@pale kettle you'd wanna build your Arden to L+ ASAP and get him above lvl 141. Put Rowan back middle as that's the optimal place for him in early game. For now, the lineup could be Eironn, Lucius, Lyca, Rowan and Nemora in that order. Good luck.
@pale kettle I’m stuck on 11-37 now
Need help adjusting my team.
wet zinc
Stuck on 9-36 this is what I'm working with
pale kettle
11-37 help
@wet zinc use daimon as carry make sure he is always 20-40 levels ahead of your other heroes
same for you @pale kettle replace the dimensionals with lyca/eironn and replace wukong with daimon
wet zinc
Out of what I have what sort of lineup should I have?
pale kettle
Wait
Okay yeah didn’t work
right now it hardly matters you just need to get though the early-mid game and work slowly on your late game line ups @wet zinc for now you wanna make daimon survive long enough for him to nuke the enemys
and @pale kettle make sure you put your best gear on him. and give him the most xp in your team and make him survive long enough
Who
wet zinc
So I could reset all my other heroes to lvl 60 and dump all my resources into daimon?
nova ravine
Am i doin this right?
pale kettle
yes @wet zinc 20-40 levels ahead of your other heroes
random hinge
Ready to move on from here, a week is long enough. So, what should I use?
pale kettle
If you waited a week, that alone should be good...
@random hinge i can see your shemira comp will get bad in 1-2 more chaps you can still use it for now, untill you get either daimon comp. but from what i see i believe it will be easier changing into a wilder comp / safiya eironn comp
random hinge
Well, that's not my normal comp. Normally, I use Shemira in the front row and Lyca in the back
And no Brutus
wet zinc
@pale kettle thanks for the help
random hinge
Also, I'm specifically looking for help getting past this level for now. I'm aware Shemira will not be great indefinitely, but building up alternatives will take time. For now, Shemira is what I have.
I'm hoping to eventually shift to a Gwyn comp, actually.
raw rune
omg finally @coral pier I hope I never face a stage like this again
cerulean heart
random hinge
Nvm, found a variation of my normal Shemira comp to get past the stage. For those interested,
Rowan
Lucius
Shemira
Lyca
Rosa
untold rivet
Please offer help?
random hinge
There's a guide on afk.guide. It should help
untold rivet
I have and the team picked isn't working.
This is the team they said, and Ezio is the last one against Rowan and the green gb. And they slaughter him
low ravine
Who do I put in the last spot? (For my overall main campaign team) I was thinking either Lyca, Tasi or Arden but I can’t decide who is best. (don't mind all the❗)
raw rune
ok the stages are just getting harder this is not fun
topaz dawn
Stuck anytbing i can donhere to push or am i just stuck waiting?
drifting atlas
@topaz dawn speaking from my own experience, you need to burst vedan fast before he transform or he will 1v5 ur team. Try to chain cc him. Also i think brutus is better than lucius here.
sour ledge
@valid parrot have u tried arden in position 3 and subbing shemira out?
dont wanne use merc on this stage
valid parrot
@sour ledge he dies too fast to get roots out
sour ledge
u tried dura call on him for the haste?
distant nymph
Can you tell me what I should use to clear your level
valid parrot
Have it on daimon, the issue is everyone melts once mireal ults
leaden spruce
Anyone have their stage solution for 30-42? Struggling a bunch with it.
pale monolith
Any ideas (10-40)
sterile jewel
This is my last fight but I just can’t get it
raw rune
YESS
native remnant
im in dire need of help rn lmfao
uneven pewter
Anybody there to maybe help me put together 3 strong arena teams for defense?😃 PM me if possible so I will see your message sooner😃
raw rune
gdi lol i knew this saveas would be a problem
raw rune
everytime it's down to saveas because my team can't live his super powerful hits
steep moat
Hi, Im currently using a team of shemira (E+), Lucius, Lucretia, Tasi, then the last one I change base on the enemy between Lyca, wukong(E+), safiya
But I just pulled nemora and eiroon and ulmus, so I am wondering if it is worth investing on them since I do not think lucretia is viable on the long term due to the difficulties on getting Hypo
So is it viable to do a team of Tasi, Nemora, Lyca, Eironn and Ulmus?
sour ledge
@steep moat when you are in the early game its better to focus on mirael or saveas as main carry since you can get them to L+ very easily and they are usually better then low lvl ascended heroes
steep moat
Who is mirael and saveas? The 3 skills ones?
sour ledge
yep, the legendary tier heroes only have 3 skills but their powerspike is way earlier
steep moat
Ok I'll focus on them, thanks
pale monolith
Egg yolk
void geyser
Been stuck on this one a while any ideas?
raw rune
ugh i hate saveas if it was anyone else but vedan i would've cleared this
sour ledge
do u have a rosaline for double mirael ult and arden for keep saveas cc'ed?
raw rune
I have arden but no rosa unfort
sour ledge
mirael, lucius, rowan, rosa and arden/fawkes should clear most stages
then i would try double cc with fawkes and arden, arden in the opposite slot then saveas
raw rune
like this?
sour ledge
@void geyser @supple dragon i think you focus too early on ascended tier heroes, for now use wukong lvl 100 and then focus on mirael/saveas - legendary tier hereos (with 3 skills) are your friends early game
yeah, i would try like this @raw rune
void geyser
alright ill try that there is a way to get him for free right?
sour ledge
nono, level everyone else as well of course 😄 but in general you want to have your main carry 20-40 levels ahead of the rest of the team
yes @void geyser when you link heroes in the union you have to click the facebook share button - you dont need to have facebook linked tho, just ignore the failure message and share it 2 times
supple dragon
Hmm interesting will do any tips for getting the upgrade essence
raw rune
it's not working
sour ledge
the first time its good to buy from labyrinth store and else just buy it daily from shop for gold
void geyser
thanks for the advice peili i can survive longer but still getting wiped so imma sit it out for the night and come back later and see if i can do it
pale monolith
10-40Help
plush merlin
Do I sacrifice Isabella into daimon? I think she's kinda weak and my progress would excel by doing so, but she's also the closest grave born to ascent, so I could use her for a dimensional link. So I'm not sure what the right option is.
lone bough
Should I be working on another team?
plush merlin
@lone bough looks pretty solid to me
lone bough
Im stuck on 8-12 tho @plush merlin
plush merlin
That's unfortunate, it does look pretty optimized to me. You might have to sit it out for a bit, or someone else can help you
regal orchid
So, I'm not normally one for asking other players advice, but i was wondering if my main team is any good
royal parrot
any ideas? or it isnt possible with my lvls? xd (i have as well brutus, raine, farael)
thing about this is enemy saveas have eat almost all of my champs in 2-3 attacks 🤔 I were trying to kill him as fast as possible but even if I pull him by using Nara he is killing whole team anyway, not big deal for him I can't get even 50% of his hp :/
random wharf
this is my main lineup. would it be worth to get ainz and put him instead of belinda?
pale monolith
plush merlin
@random wharf ainz is good with a lot of investment, I don't think you're at that point yet
random wharf
@plush merlin what about albedo instead of wu/lucius?
plush merlin
I think she needs investment too, but it might be better than wukong
random wharf
alright thanks
pale kettle
Is Farael a good carry?
sour ledge
i guess with signature item and furniture
pale kettle
Tried different variations ,I just either don't have enough DMG or I insta die ,gimme a good comp
raw rune
nah using wu kong is definitely not optimized
carmine cairn
I will invest in wu until he gets capped, then mirael
pale kettle
Formation recommendations?
modern holly
recommends?
raw rune
oh same goes for you @carmine cairn you should remove him from your team he's not good after lv100, i meant someone earlier
you're lacking elite+ stuff though which is unfortunate
carmine cairn
Oh damn, I don't think I can come up with a team that doesn't use wu kong
raw rune
saurus is great but you don't have them elite +
carmine cairn
Yeah, I just got like 2 elite+ today, still pretty rough
Saurus is elite+ actually
raw rune
uh they're not unless they just ascended
carmine cairn
Wait what
modern holly
Pippa first?
raw rune
if it was elite+ then it would have corners
raw rune
your only elite+ are saveas ira silvina belinda and the one next to them don't remember their name
modern holly
people who up first? :(
pale kettle
Halp please
raw rune
i said saurus what are you talking about lol
carmine cairn
Omg I'm so sorry lmao I'm too tired and I swear I read Saevas twice
raw rune
lol no problem, saveas is meh but he's good for crystal levels
sour ledge
at all above, use the sticky quick start guide
modern holly
-.- ok
sour ledge
dont force low lvl ascended heroes, just use the legendary tier 3 skill heroes until lvl 160
sour ledge
i would reset shemira and push mirael to 141+ @pale kettle
carmine cairn
I'm lost as what to do, do I reset wu and level up mirael and try to come up with a comp without wu?
raw rune
yes
sour ledge
you can transistion into shemira once you have her mythical
raw rune
but the problem is your elite+ are lacking so maybe you just make wu kong lower, but keep him on the team, with mirael being the highest
carmine cairn
yes I was thinking about that too
I'll try that out, it's just 20 diamonds to reset anyways 🤪
carmine cairn
There might be a problem
I used wu as a frontliner cause he was overleveled, now my frontline is really weak 🤔
frigid sparrow
Here are the heroes on my crystal rn. And the heroes I can put on the crystal. Who do I put on the crystal for general PVE content?
raw rune
what do the twins do?
carmine cairn
haste ult I think
gilded dome
Alright try again, hoooowww??
carmine cairn
haste ult, restores hp and energy, and a weird damage redirection buff
lucid mirage
Help please
raw rune
hmm...
raw rune
oh you have rosa, do you have room in the crystal for them? @carmine cairn
carmine cairn
Yep, I just pulled her too
sour ledge
you leveld way too much heroes @lucid mirage - only level 5 in total.
lucid mirage
Oh ok
gilded dome
:0
lucid mirage
Should I reset everything?
sour ledge
get mirael out of the crystal and focus on her, put twins in crystal and every other E you have leveled
raw rune
again wu kong is not recommendeded, make mirael your highest, the rest looks fine except that you are levelling 7 heroes, reset another one as well as wu kong
lucid mirage
What should my line up be for campaign and pvp?
carmine cairn
Who should I replace with rosa?
raw rune
they will give mirael 2 ults at once if timed right
sour ledge
theres a sticky message with a quick start guide explaining early lineups
raw rune
uh... either lucretia or lucius, up to you
carmine cairn
I'll try lucretia, lucius' shield and just being a tank in my comp is too needed
raw rune
yeah don't overestimate him, he's already not enough in 10-4
gilded dome
Aaaa i just cant get past 😦
raw rune
needs elite+
carmine cairn
I just don't have any other tanks :\
raw rune
yeah im having that problem too
lucid mirage
I’m at 8-15 rn
raw rune
sacrificed the ok one (hogan) to mirael
carmine cairn
I have a ton of them , but weird facs and I don't know how to fit them
lone grail
lucid mirage
So mirael, lucretia
raw rune
can you repost all your heroes @carmine cairn
lucid mirage
And what else?
sour ledge
dont level lucretia, you wont get her past E for a while.
raw rune
lucretia isn't worth it, mirael is the one that is good
carmine cairn
I just cleared chapter 8 with rosa instead of lucretia in my comp
sour ledge
focus on leveling the Rare heroes to L+, put the other ones into the crystal until you get past 160
carmine cairn