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Okk
Lol try to interrupt Shemira
@native wave did it
Put L+ lyca instead of M eironn
She died In 3 hits but speed boost is godsend
what config to beat this lol
@sharp raft There's a guide for it on reddit, try to look it up
What kind of formation should I build for clearing PvE?
until i get saveas ascended, how should i level these up? currently stuck on this stage. I have enough hero xp to level up saveas once (should i just max at 120) and nothing else or level up 3 of the other
@quartz kindle Shemira, tasi, rowan, arden and nemora should give a decent amount of crowd control for Shemira, try that see if it works.
@raw rune Mireal carry is better. But well, drop rowan and monkey king. reset them, and use the exp to level up mireal and silvia.
you can put rowan in crystal.
silvina is way too low ascension (only rare) and mirael is only elite so i don't see the point in using them atm
@raw rune Saveas can't be ascended, his max ascension is legendary+ he's known as a fodder hero. get saveas to lvl 120 and drop the others to 80
yeah i didn't mean the ascended tier i meant just ascending it
@raw rune You'll eventually have to do it. as of now, you could just build monkey king untill he's lv100.
keep in mind that monke is hard to ascend, AFAIK daimon is the meta atm for early carry
wu Kong didn't work as the highest since lv100 is too low for this point, i have shemira but not daimon
shemira's great too
Hey, could use some tips, am currently at 15-12 can't progress, on anything atm. Any good heroes to focus / gather?
you really think elite mirael will perform better than elite+ saveas?
@raw rune Makes no difference unless you are a heavy spender. So just wait to get more footers and only ascend those footers upto lv160.
@plucky breach too many mythic heroes.... it's advised to get heroes to mythic only if you have 8 copies or can guarantee 8 copies. Daimon is a great carry and +20 is enough for him.
Hello all
you really think elite mirael will perform better than elite+ saveas?
@raw rune Yes. Mireal > saveas, because most of the support -> lucias, rose, rowan, hogan can give you 5-faction bonus
true saveas has no support on his faction
But with saveas, he's a lone player with no bonus at early game.
should i replace anyone with brutus
I'll give mirael a go, but they were pathetic at rare+
oh n is my lineup any good for chapter 7
I tried what that other dude told me but changed lucretia with saveas but like they die in an instant
ok well they're not gonna work with silvina around i forgot i was stuck on a stage with them, maybe i should stay with saveas for now?
@river flint Can't say. But thay are good. And you only need brutus in stages where your tanks die very quickly.
ok thanks
ok well they're not gonna work with silvina around i forgot i was stuck on a stage with them, maybe i should stay with saveas for now?
@raw rune Reset only costs 20diamond. And you'll never regret ascending a footer tier hero. So you can keep experimenting all you want until all your heroes are lv160.
ok thanks
Should I ascend Gwyneth or Belinda, and also Tasi or Kaz
Ascend to which tier? L? L+? M? Also, this question is better for #classic-questions @rich rivet
oh okay
it's from elite + to legend
Nope. Do not ascend those heroes to L if you don't have enough copies to bring them to L+. Switch to #classic-questions , lest a mod warn us
okay
I tried what that other dude told me but changed lucretia with saveas but like they die in an instant
what should I change?
these are my characters
its because ur saveas is level one mate
yes but I switched him with lucretia
@sterile raven He probably ment resetting Lucretia and building a lv80+ saveas. But idk if you have unlocked ricky cart yet..
yes but is it worth?
yes. It's a must.
bet and what about my main carry?
Keep mireal as main carry.
got u
mireal is a strong main carry ealry on
Yo, could I get some help? I did the bad mistake of making hendrik L and have no other good tank
Been stuck for some time now
?
But they still die really fast and saveas doesnt deal alot of damage idk
@sterile raven Well, saveas is super useless. But he is someone you have to build eventually..
For the stage, I assume the enemy mireal one shots you before you can do anything, right? For stages like these, where opponent mage one shots you, you should use Silvia.
So you'll have to reset brutus and build silvia to lv80+
@sullen narwhal toss shem and hendrick and use nem and talene. Charm ferael before his terrify thing and if that doesnt work toss saf and use lyca
Ok but should I keep the same team ?
Can anyone help? I'm stuck for hours on this
Except that I change seveas against silivia
replace saveas/nemora with silvia. It's your best lineup. If you still loose, then just wait for afk reward and try again tomorrow. @sterile raven
ok thanks c:
@plucky beacon The only way to deal with brutus is to tank him head on until his immortality runs out. Your best bet is Lucias. But he needs to level up more.
help
@mild geyser tried everything and nothing works grr
@hallow wraith You're ascension capped. just wait for more footers to level up mireal. Or over level that graveborn legendary hero above all enemies.
dang ok
Help please?
I can't get through this stage
Any suggestions on a lineup for this? Seems I am dropping very fast.
Which one should I upgrade to +20?
Does anyone know a good PVE team I could make from this?
Hi, im new and i need to speak to a moderator, or someone in charge of the game, there was an error a purchase. How can i contact? I'm new i don't understand anything
@tribal steppe thatβs more of a #classic-questions question
@spiral oriole I would suggest going in game under setting services > support > click the headset at the top right and fill that out
@spiral oriole
Help?
@pale kettle try to re arrange your heroβs, I keep Belinda in the back, I keep all my tanks in the front
Just started, been using the characters that are leveled minus the trial Ainz. Wondering if I should change anything, stuck on 6-12.
floor 104 now kings tower but still stuck on same stage so hopefully i can ascend soon
Because what's worse than an Ulmus? 5 Mythic+ Ulmi
What's your advice guys?
Belinda Lucius Rosa cc ig
Shemira melts but the remaining heroes die easily when they all start ulting
what is the best lineup i can get with these heroes? assuming i am soon gonna have Shemira?
Currently i am using: Wu Kong , Lucius, Nirusu , Tasi and Belinda
kk lemme take a look
first thing to note is that you want to avoid creating legendary heroes when you don't have 4 total copies required to take them to legendary+. Daimon may be the exception to the rule. First of all be sure that your wishlist is full and contains daimon, izold, rowan, eironn, and lyca
4 total copies?
thats crazy i would be stuck at levels and not get diamonds to progress further
from what I have heard, satrana is a good early hero also. Right now, I think the legendary heroes are all worth using for now. focus levelling belinda before other heroes to get her damage as high as possible. In the end you will want a better carry than her, but she will do for now, and you can always reset levels to give to another hero if need be
Yea im gonna use Shemira as a carry after Belinda
for the foreseeable short-term future, you essentially want one really strong damage dealing hero (belinda for now) usually a couple of beefy heroes (really just ways to stall for your damage hero to land some kills), at least one hero with control abilities, and usually a slot that is rotated according to need. For example, tasi is often brought for her banish, but no matter where you place her, it will always be the same target. Nara on the other hand (definitely worth wishlisting for at least one copy) pulls the hero that mirrors her position and can prevent enemy heroes from banishing your damage hero
my personal recommendation on belinda and shemira is to not take them to Mythic unless you don't have a better carry lined up and would otherwise just stall
what is a better carry than shemira?
taking them to L+ is fine and offers enough strength for the meantime while you wait for some better heroes to show up. Daimon is the best hero to use as a carry, bar none. Even at just one copy, it is worth seeing if he outperforms other carries
when you get done could you look at my roster? based on what you said i should probably reset something and us my Daimon
if you get 4 copies of satrana, eironn, or izold, then there is no need to take shemira or belinda past L+
dare I say that one copy of Daimon may be sufficient to do the same (for at least a brief period of time if close to a 4th copy of some carry)
@lean ore sure thing, although you should be able to test by placing him on your resonating crystal and equipping him with gear. Can even just throw him into your carry slot and make no changes at first
Currently i am using Wu Kong , Lucius, Nirusu , Tasi and Belinda
currently is there anything better i can use? like replace a hero?
well, i just started, so im not sure which of my characters i should be using tbh, i looked up some tier lists and such but still think some input would be helpful.
that is probably the best you have available @pale kettle . Nemora can fulfill a similar role to Tasi, and should be one of the first things to try when you get stuck. Nemora's charm target can vary, but prefers someone directly across from her. Mirael is a solid carry early on, competitive with many heroes at Legendary and L+. Put Brutus on your res crystal just in case your tanks are melting too quickly. He will survive with his shield for at least a guaranteed period
Okay dad thank you
If someone could dm i can show you what I have because I don't know what to use.
this is my roster, just been using the leveled characters. i assume i should start using daimon at least? not sure what my best team would be.
Im stuck at 9-1 what should i do?
Help
Any idea how to beat this stage?
Can someone PLEASE help
Can anyone help me here stuck here for the last few hours
@boreal breach nara vurk
@mild geyser nara and who?
i would take out rosa and just sack rowan on the frontline. Maybe replace fawkes with tasi and put in lyca
any advice on what i should do/change? just starting out
@lean ore Oh boy you got good heros. I suugest to go with Rowan,Roselia,Brutus, Safyia and Wu Kong
yeah i know i got a bunch of high teir heroes and it's making it super hard to pick what to use lol
Not high-tier heros(also they are called elites). Literally your team would be just elites, but you got really nice elites,best of the best
i mean high tier as in heroes that are placed high on tier lists
Wdym
nevermind it doesn't matter, basically i know i got good elites, just trying to figure out what the best combo is
i've heard daimon is very strong too even with just 1 copy
Brutus and Rowan in front, Rest behind
Help?
should i level wu kong as the carry?
Thanks Iβll try it
Also @pale kettle Use Rowan he is really good
any suggestions?
Any suggestions to get by this/best lineups possible?
still cant beat 6-12 unfortunately
I still canβt beat 7-40
Any tips?
@thorn coral post your box
Any advice for 8-24?
I need help , wu kong get stomped Everytime in the first 5 sec what can I replace him with ?
i wouldnt use talene at that stage, she is not as good later on at elite
just try 12345 rowan lyca tasi eironn saf
this is slot order btw
if that doesnt do it reverse rowan and lyca
oh wtf instant success lmfao
frontlining eironn vs thane isnt the best idea 
i hit go and looked away so idk what even happened
welcome to 28
i need to finish my eiron comp eurgh, but between that and gwyn comp i should be fine
I started today and was wondering what lineup would be best. This is what I have as my lineup and what I have pulled. Still figuring stuff out so any help would be great :D
Anyone get any ideas?
@trim dawn not an expert but currently using rosaline Belinda combo it's great carry for early game
Lucretia is not that good too
@valid bobcat you should look at the pins
is there a way i can beat this
I need help getting past 7-36 here are my current characters i dont have enough dps to take out the mages or tank boi
@valid bobcat you should look at the pins
@daring marlin why?
@daring marlin the pins are also incredibly outdated
Stuck on 8-20 for a while need help
have to show enemy aswell
Hello im just starting and i have these heroes can anyone give me a good lineup ? Btw 3 of them ar not mine just trial but if they really that good i might buy them
read pins in #classic-questions
Thank you i will
Been stuck here from a few days 13-40 . On Reddit other people have said they are on chapter 17 with similar hero levels, don't know how. I really lack a tank sadly.
My shem gets ripped if she's Infront on the bottom and can just ulti at top but gets ripped instantly after. Every other hero I try gets dumped on in 1 shot basically in any slot.
I think I'm stuck. Any hope of passing this stage? At least two of my three backline heros get instagibbed
should i try putting gwyneth in crystal? someone has used it to beat my current Kings tower floor
Can anyone help me in my post a couple above? None of my other heroes can do anything they just get shredded.
yesss
Help pls - this is my first AE and I have no idea what I'm doing
which side r u on?
Noob here. Day 5 and stuck here in 10-2. Help. I dont understand how the enemies attack(work). It suddenly burst all the level 100
@mild geyser the left side with no heroes
alright so u would probably wanna build celerity tree for pathing, then mage a bit after cecilia.
So do celerity->mage->sus ig
Focus on celerity?
Whats pathing
like non bossing and getting tiles to boost essence per hour
How many per comp?
wdym
Like out of 5 in battles
like how many people u use in a battle?
Ye, how many of em is good, like 3?
depends on ur power. Im on the weaker side so I usually run 5 guys to take down t3s
So take shem and daimon out?
shem raine nemora and take daimon out maybe a couple days after
Alr, thx appreciate the help
u wanna focus on one tree at a time
Up to lvl 5?
u have to level up all of ur trees to level 3 then 4 before u can level a tree up to 5 iirc
ok thx
@compact finch reset mehira and put her in crystal cuz now ur lvl cap is 100, and replace her with angelo or another E+
Anyone still have the line up for the dimensional skeleton boh
my carry(wukong) is capped and my mirael isn't e+ yet, im currently stuck on 7-30, any suggestions for for my team comps? tysm
use saveas ig
Who should I reset? Yall kept saying to reset all but 5 so
should i make some normals L+ and get everyone to 101?
Help please
@paper grotto r u a whale? If so just go god comp
he is a whale
having that at level 24, yeah
Saveus or mireal? My current team
im lvl 44 and havent even gotten to 110
I feel like I probably screwed up pretty big here. So by some stroke of luck I've managed to get to 13-1 but no matter what lineup I try I can't even get an ultimate off. What should I focus on? I have been saving up resources to buy the new dimensional dudes
help please
Yo im trying to make a new team but idk who to use can u help me ?
Tasi and rowan keep dying before they can ult π¦
I need a 15 second win, got any tips? I tried ainz and eironn/saf, but both take like 20 seconds
any tips on how to defeat this?
What do I use to beat this bull lol
@mellow ember follow the guide on afk.guide. The only stage where it doesn't work is...
This stage:
For this one, use this lineup instead:
Any time. I recently went through it myself
any thoughts?
Any ideas
At the moment I am stuck on 6-16. Here is what I have to work with and who I used to attempt beating it.
Any help?
Hi. These are my Heroes. I'm on 11-1, trying to (eventually) unlock Stargazing. I need help making a good formation to press through the campaign. I am willing to change the heroes on my Resonating Crystal if needed. Thanks!
@tribal sonnet Im about as good in the game as you but I'll susggest to use heros such as Rowan,Belinda abd Ferael can be a good carrier. Also Lucius can be good if he dosen't de before using an ability
Hi all. I am stuck close to finishing the chapter. Who would you recommend I try for this mission?
This is my current roster
@pale kettle
Rowan
Brutus
Safyia
Lucius
Maybe Lorsan
oof... i still need help
Hi, im in my 3rd day, i have guide but i would still to ask for recommendations for line up so that i dont invest in heroes that would become useless afterwards
can someone plz help me? im trying to get past ch11
@tribal sonnet Im 11.22 with troops lower than yours. If you can add me, you can see my formations at the banner thingys, right ?
Help please, i tried many line ups and resets but I'm still stuck here.
Need some help, any advice
@boreal rock could you try this once:
Tasi
- wukong
Belinda - lucius
Twins
@solar wind you should reset any hero that you invested XP pther than your top 5. I see tons of lvl 30 in there
But it cost 20 diamonds, is it worth it?
@supple swallow how do I reset the XP?
And after that is done. Then what should be my next move?
https://www.afkarena.net/level-calculator says it is 20k xp and 20 dust. worth teh 20 diamonds imho
@solar wind can you access the rickety cart? It is under the resonating crystal
This is a hero Level Calculator/Planner for AFK Arena. Find out exactly how many resources you need to level your heroes!
Focus on Belinda. All of your XP should be to take her to lvl 100 (or even higher if you can)
She should be 20-40 levels higher than hte rest\
The ones that are locked is because you did so in their menu. You can unlock them by looking at their profile and clicking in the top right. You need not reset those that will give you few xp...but the lvl 30+ make sense to me
@solar wind from now on just level only 5 characters
@civic topaz I kinda feel you are missing a tank. Have you considered raising Hogan to Legendary+? Shemira, Rosaline and Rowan are great support characters.
Once you have Hogan you should always have Shemira 20-40 levels higher than the rest
There is no "strongest" per se...and it does not matter. You need to have several copies of same character. You have two Elite+ Belindas so you can focus on her
Who should I replace with hogan on mine?
DONT FODDER BELINDA INTO BELINDA
u can use any other elite+ lightbearer to ascend her
so you could do Belinda + Hogan + Mirael
then do Legendary Belinda + (E+ Belinda) to get L+ Belinda @solar wind
@pale kettle gotcha!!
@pale kettle it won't allow me to
Unless I'm doing something wrong
show me ur lightbearers only heroes
u cant do it
cuz you dont have any E+ lightbearer fodder
Ahhh
@solar wind get hogan to E+ and mirael to E+ and you will be able to get an L+ belinda π
Alright I'll be right back
any tips?
why aren't you leveling/putting on crystal Shemira? she's a great carry through ch 25ish
Hi guys, Iβm not good at making PvP teams for the challenger championship, could you suggest me 3 « goodΒ Β» teams with what I have ?
Thanks for your time !
@pale kettle
Floor 175 Wilder tower, any ideas?
What's a good composition with the heroes I have? I don't know much about synergy yet π
Can someone help me? Ty
Got some new heroes. Wondering if I should make a New lineup
Also have a Belinda, it's not on screenshot
Is Belinda a mercenary?
Because mercenaries have limited uses in campaign and tower, and are only available for a week.
@lone bough
No, she is a hero I just got in a summon.
And tomorrow I'll get another copy because 7th day login π @random hinge
any tips on a strong lineup, have been doing pretty welll with shimera lucius in the front and belinda rowan gwyneth in the back any other ideas are appreciate d
@fallow remnant exact lineup will vary depending on challenge, but try Lyca, Rowan, and Rosa in back
i keep the from front row eh ?
What lineup should I use to get past this level been stuck here for 3 days.
Yes. I myself use this team, although mine are at a higher ascension level. @fallow remnant
@fallow remnant frankly, Lucius, Lyca, Rowan, and Rosaline make a decent base team. You just need to slot in a carry of your choosing for the last slot.
@random hinge maybe belinda since i have her at legendary plus now
Me, I use Shemira, and she's been good to me. But you can also use Belinda, Gwyneth, Daimon, etc. Whichever carry you prefer/find is the most successful for you.
Rosa helps your carry ult more, Rowan provides more energy for the team, Lucius helps top up your team's health and mitigates some damage, and Lyca ensures you can use your ults quicker. Slot in a carry that actually does damage... @fallow remnant
possible to form a team with shimera belinda lucius those are my best
Shemira and Belinda both fill the same role. This game is balanced around 1 tank, 1 dps, and 3 support. Lucius is your tank(and healer), Lyca, Rowan, and Rosaline are the supports. That leaves the dps(usually referred to as the carry here). Both Belinda and Shemira fill this role.
should i legend izold or wait for more copies and legend plus silvina and wait for more izold fodder
@formal prawn
Anyone willing to help me with the lineup new player and i dont have a clue what to use
@clear bough check the visual guide, just above your question.
Hey, letβs assume I used maybe wrong char to feed other and I feel like Iβm doing pretty bad with my team, should I just start a new account ? This is how I am right now (using Lucius Mirael Rosaline Arden and Nemora, open to any advice tho)
Any help?
any tip?
anyone has a 30-28 lineup with eironn comp?
thx ill try
Any help?
Anyone got suggestions ? Hard stuck , I think I wont be moving past here for a week or so
Everything, and I mean everything is getting 1 shot , but there's players in my friends list with less than half my bp and lower level heros who are cleaning this chapter
Why is arena of trials so hard? Am I doing something wrong Iβm just randomly replacing heroes lol
@balmy vessel why not use gwyneth and arthur team? you already have hendrik too
You just answered your own question @balmy vessel
Wait I just found a guide on Reddit. Iβm dumb.. lemme try.. haha
Soon I'll have legendary siliva and Tasi. If anyone can help me make a new line up and show me some things, itd be super nice
@pale kettle dont ascend to leg if you cannot do leg+ afterwards. (Does not apply for fodder heroes)
Also:
@pale kettle dont ascend to leg if you cannot do leg+ afterwards. (Does not apply for fodder heroes)
Also:
@pale kettle why would u do leg + only and not just leg. If u dont mind me asking
@pale kettle there isn't a guarantee you will get the unit to get them L+ so you don't want to accidentally waste fodder
If you can do from e+ to l+ instantly, then do it. Just ascending to legendary won't be useful cuz if you reach max lvl the l heroes, you will be stuck if you cant ascend to l+ because of not having enough copies.
Im not sure how to explain.
What Im trying to say is that you should only go to l if you know that you will have enough copies to get to l+
Any tips or suggestions on how to beat this stage
I see
Ty both for the tip
Took me 4 tries to send that lol and anytime
Discord terrible rn I heard
ahhh ok
So I need to make rosa and brutus legendary plus. That's alot more grinding to go xD
You'll hit a lot of walls especially the last stage of every area but once you get past that you get a little more momentum
Well, I havent done campaign recently because of the wall. Maybe there's a better line up I can mess with now
Lucious is one of my dmg dealers. But shes stuck, so I need to move her to the resonating crystal. Who should I bring out and level?
Yeah usually you dont want your cele or your hypogeans as the main 5 because they're harder to come by but im looking at your units and lucius is a great tank belinda is a good early carry rowan is an amazing support. So, those 3 will be on your team for a while and late game that Eironn will be very strong usually being a permanent carry to help with your advancement
Any tips or suggestions on how to beat this stage
@tawny seal Eironn comp not effective?
Well I didn't get Eironn until I was late game so I dont know much about his early game and mid game value
I'm referring to the stage you were asking, 25-16
Yeah i just realized lol
This is the team I was using and failing
I need a replacement hopefully for belinda soon but i dont have one available that i know of
Well it wasnt but I just proceeded to dodge every attack with Eironn despite my 80 tries before where he got focus lol
Any tips to clear chapter 10, been stuck on this for a while now
Whats the usual team you use @uncut robin?
It was gwen, Belinda, luscious, Rosen and rose
Can someone help me please? Can't beat this stage
@uncut robin Try 1. Lucius 2.Tasi 3.Belinda 4.Rowan 5. Ferael or Rosa
@tawny seal didnβt work :(, guess imma just have to wait for exp
@tawny seal Lyca, Rowan, Tasi, Eironn, Fera (in that order) should somehow be able to close that one out. You got Saurus too so you can switch him in also.
ignore lvls but what should my lineup be iβm real confused lol
@uncut robin I'm guessing Vedan ult gets you the most
i have enough stuff to get a full team to around 110 btw
i want to use saveas as carry but donβt know what else
I cant pass this can someone help me?
Try athalia on Mirael, so she wonβt delete your team
Ignoring my levels can you tell me what to upgrade and what team I should use. Only thing is I want to use Wu Kong as my carry but I will change if it's not right
My current formation
@sterile raven try that:
can any1 help? been stuck on 12-1 all day...also if any1 can help me with unions by being my friend id apreciate it
This stage clearable without Mythic hero?
@sterile raven try that:
@pale kettle I tried that but I have nearlyno damage output and my athalia dies to fast without killing mirael
tyty it works 
Could I get some help getting past this level.
@vivid basalt Put brutus and tasi in the crystal. Use tasi instead of that celestrial storm wizard.
Okay thank you
Need help pls
what do you guys think my best "default" team should be? currently running:
Nara
Rowan
Mehira
Daimon
Thoran
@gritty saddle oh rip you messed up badly. Don't ascend heroes to L if you can't get them to L+. Also, i'd STRONGLY suggest to read the starter guides (they are in the pins)
I think that the reason u r losing is cause of factional advantage ( I might be wrong)
how i solve that?
Use luctretia
instead who?
is there somewhere you can find all factional advantages
Guys I have 556k exp to spend, on who should i spend it on?
there isn't any important factional advantage going on in that matchup, i can see you are using a lot of heroes who are weak at low levels. Mind to share all the heroes you have? Also, definitelly get the free wukong and use him till lv.100, he's a beast till then @pale kettle
With one of the frontline heroes, I would change the graveborn for her @pale kettle, she does massive Dps at the beginning stages
Guys plz help
@upbeat briar where i get the free wukong?
@glad bay Donβt take my word on it but probs spend it on a character that is legendary+
a guy suggested me this comb cause have sinergy with shemira, sec i will share my characters
Any ideas, nothing i try seems to be even getting close
@upbeat briar where i get the free wukong?
@pale kettle If u share heroes that you got from drops on Facebook
@pale kettle there's an event where you can get a free wukong by sharing some stuff on facebook twice
I dont want to waste exp on weak characters
Yea that comp CAN work, it's just that it works at higher levels, cause most of these heroes need to be levelled up
so what u suggest me to do?
@glad bay then do characters like tanks or dps characters
get the free wukong and use him as carry by powerlevelling him (levelling him above anyone else till it tells you you can't anymore), do that till lv.100 and he should carry you througt most stages
Help pls, this is my first AE and I have no idea what I'm doing 
@digital echo ill keep that in mind, thx
@upbeat briar so i have to reset my characters again?
@glad bay this is tierlist, it will help finding out which characters are better.
@pale kettle only whoever will take the spot of the wukong. Looking at your comp, i'd say to remove Gwyneth. She is an amazing damage dealer, but needs to be more levelled. At least you'll keep a solid factional advantage by removing her
@main trout thanks proof for the ss
@pale kettle actually wait. Have you tried to put Gwyneth in the middle?
she'd do more AOE damage with her lighting arrows there
@eternal totem tyvm
π
@upbeat briar what do u mean
One of Gwynet's passive is lighting arrows, it does damage to multiple enemies. To take full effect, it'd be optimal if she's in the middle of the formation
that doesnt matter
Any help here been stuck here for 3 days I can rest and lvl different carry if need be?
the boss in this stage cc me for 3 seconds and delete all my heros but shemira
i cant do anything
then yea, your best bet is to get that wukong carry till lv.100
after lv.100, you'll probably need to use someone else as a carry. Just level him up till you can and don't care too much about the rest of your team. The idea is you make your carry as strong as possible, and build the team around him to give factional advantages, CC, heals. And if you hit level cap, then level up your second main tank as much as possible.
It's all about buying time for the main carry to kill everything basically
Any idea how to beat these guys on my current lvl of heroes? Or do i need to wait till they got higher lvl?
try pippa instead of Silvina
if everybody gets deleted before nemora and pippa can heal, then try lyca
@digital echo please do not recommend that tier list, tier lists suck in general and that one in specific is really bad
Any advice?
mirael goes middle back 90% of the time
She gets stuck in a web by ankhira
put grace on soemone else so they get webbed
Or gets shredded by vedan
@upbeat briar Thanks, lyca and pippa instead of silvina and nemora worked xD
I just started today and summoned about 40 scrolls
Which heroes do i use?
@plucky beacon anytime! definitelly pay attenction to your wilders, you have some good ones (plus you can get factional bonuses, which can really help)
faction bonuses should not be targeted whatsoever @upbeat briar
Ty so muchh
i'm talking about having for example 3 wilders team in your comp, giving 10% health and hp to everyone
yes, i know what you're talking about, those are irrelevant
Ok, I found a formation that leaves only break alive
Thanks for the advice regarding the changing of artifacts. So ty @vocal sluice
Yea i ment it as a side bonus, like if you can get it then you probably should
Nvm, mirael keeps getting webbed. Even though she doesn't have dura's grace
no you should not, do not target them, if you have it great, but if not dont look at it
interesting, i'll keep it in mind. So far i've seen most people suggesting to look forward to it
those people dont know how to build their teams properly
So do i make mirael my carry?
@eternal totem do you have 29-48 ss?
what do you guys think my best "default" team should be? currently running:
Nara
Rowan
Mehira
Daimon
Thoran
@vocal sluice Any ideas here? i feel like something better can be used.
i've tried with most of the heroes you can see, but they normally just die and the comp i've said is the one that has given me the most value so far
@upbeat briar how i share for wukong?
there should be a facebook button on the bottom right when you summon and get a new hero or something like that
that kinda works, im more thinking
daimon
thoran
rowan
rosa
tasi
Use swap ins as needed
i dont see it
@main trout
Ty
does rowan have t1 wep and boots?
I need help before my trial ends
maybe
lucius
rowan
ainz
lyca
tasi
if that doesnt work try swaping lyca/tasi/rowans postions around
Too much power difference or just lousy setup?
Iβm stuck, any suggestions?
Any tips on how I can beat this team?
About same levels on heroes but got bo chance lol
Do I need a Nara for this, mine's only at E:(
@pale kettle DOnt think you want rowan in the frontline early, pippa should be in the middle otherwise she kinda fucks you over
o. ^ can you suggest me a full lineup?
@pale kettle
Try
Tasi
Lyca
Rose/Rowan
Rose/Rowan(whoever
hmm how fast do you die? Not sure if ainz is worth using
Just move luscious to the front move Rowan to the back
Lucius is paper
@tender ivy But then his pippa can fail the tp
Whoever silvina attack should be at pos 2
Tasi
Lyca
Rose
Rowan
Eironn
I die within like 10 seconds prolly
I need Luciusβ ultimate, i canβt let him die
Then change pippa for saveas?
Doesnβt work either
But his ainz is useless so he want to replace him aswell
@blissful parcel Total fail
Try
saveas
rowan
eironn
niru
lucios
Ainz is good, Iβll try this. ^ Iβll also try that
@pale kettle You do not want pippa anywhere but in the middle since her teleport will fail
Oh Niru
try niru instead didnt see you had him
Got wiped :Β°
could try saveas in the middle eironn bot and lucius top
Or maybe just add lyca for her speed boost
@pale kettle then you probably just want to lvl characters. Try to get saveas as your carry
Sigh
Yeah this game is hard if you donβt put money in it
@fickle loom what you used for KT 473?
@raw rune saveas frontline. drop wuk, he's no longer useful for you
@pale kettle in my opinion you should stick with the second one
who should replace him?
another support depending on situation - tasi, fawkes, arden are all good options
kt450~487 was pretty much all talene tasi rowan daimon ferael, too lazy to go find exact positions but it didn't seem to matter much anyway
alright
why the second?
nemora is a good one to level up?
Ur daimon was A @fickle loom ?
or should i remove one of those 2 from the crystal
yes but doesn't matter what matters is 20 SI and power rating
Has strong characters
nemora is mediocre but alright sometimes, especially if her charm hits a good target. take wuk off crystal unless you want to use him for pvp or something
can u tell me a comp for the second account?
oh I see. level up vedan even if you don't use him, he's easy to ascend. Soon you will have to reset rowan and put her on crystal too, replacing her levels on a fodder tier @raw rune
i swaped did some reset, still stucked
alright I'll do that thanks @wispy tartan
Best lineup I could make?
Any suggestions I've tried all I can think of the past few days lol or am I just dumb π
For right now keep hogan but focus on saurus and elronn for frontline
Best lineup I could make?
@sterile jewel you shouldn't lvl so many chars only 5 is need put rest in resonating crystal
jobe u talk with me or the other guy?
wow that's really annoying just as i kill the first enemy vedan gets his ult off
Brutus is not that good maybe as a backup
can tell me wich comp i make? and i reset my heroes now
Back line shemira,ferael, and gwyneth
ferael and gwyneth arent weak in early game?
Frontline saurus and eironn
i saw many guides suggesting saveas
or i just got lucky with pulls and can skip saveas?
saveas and mirael are the best ones
shemira a bit later
both shemira and daimon a bit later
Yeah he is but you can level him up more than hogan then hogan is the same level as saveas
Quick suggestion maybe reset shemira,luscious, tasi , and athalia
Ye and then use the rare heroes...
Nonono
any suggestions, im stuck
Level up Isabella,saveas,ira, and ulmus so that crystal heroes can be a higher level than they are right now
Hey all sooooo it's been about a year break for me and I have no idea what's good or not anymore..can someone help me trying to get back into it lol
Then put the reset heroes in the crystal
Line up for my account. I'm on 10-40 and f2p
@tender ivy I cannot follow xD
Since the current heroes you leveled up right now are at max level the ones I mentioned can go higher
Ohhh because they are e+ so they can go to lvl 120 and my es will also be able to go to lvl 120 aight got ut
Yes
Ty
No problem
But isnt there a 24h couldown if I want to switch what to put in the crystal so I wont be able to use then for a day?
Yeah there is but you can use diamonds to speed it up
Aightπ
One quick change is reset eironn and level up hogan
Also focus on leveling up 5 specific characters mostly higher tiered characters
Can someone help me? I'm about to lose my mind lol
I have 3 crystal slots so 3 of them are in the crystal so thats why I have so many lvl 60's
Use hogan and izoid as frontline
Maybe even eironn
Back line heroes shemira,ainz and Rowan @bold garnet
@random bay maybe try eironn and grezhul frontline
Back line shemira,Rowan, and nemora.Back up use rosaline
Yeah sorry I was looking at the wrong one lol
In this one which one dies the fastest?
Nope, just completed chapter 5 with it
Oh congrats
Just remember reset lowered tiered characters and level up higher tier heroes
Yep, I am just trying to progress as far as i can before getting stuck in the afk timer
The higher you go the longer the timer
Just got rowan Leg+ so should I level her to 45ish for now? Or crystal her
Just crystal her for right now and when you have enough level her up max
how do i beat niru
Can you show me all of your heroes?
Whats a good lineup for this one?
Try replacing arden for saurus @raw rune
Try changing ezio for gwyneth and albedo for eironn @wide quail
Then replace Rowan for Arden
Or replace lyca
Use fawkes and Arden and replace Rowan and lyca if you need to stall
arden can't root because hypogean is stopping it
Any advice for 14-40?
As it stands now estrilda lasts like 5 seconds and everyone gets about one ult off
Try changing rosaline for Belinda change luscious and estrilda positions
@raw rune maybe move Arden to the other side of the pathogen
like this?
Change Rowan for fawkes because he kidnaps one of them at the start @raw rune hopefully that helps giving Arden enough time to root
@kindred lynx use fawkes instead of safiya and put any tank/lot of hp character in the middle so Nara just kill them instantly
Change lyca for ferael
Rosaline for Belinda trends worse than the original formation. I should mention that Rosaline attaches to Lucius in my formation
niru + vedan is still really obnoxious
I'm pretty sure fawkes stops arden from rooting but can't say that for sure
he ends up rooting just before he dies
Try swapping the frontline positions
same reason, niru + vedan
niru stays on the field for ages and vedan just heals the health back up
I hate to say this but you might need to level up your heroes first
yeah i probably will sucks having to wait for ascensions
i feel like mirael will be a lot more consistent if i can get them to elite+
Yeah try that
Maybe level up them up max first and try again and if that doesnβt work you might to ascend them
yeah I've tried mirael with lv100 at an earlier stage didn't go too well
granted there was silvina which completely stopped them but mirael would prob still die quickly
Well try leveling them up max then ascend I gotta go so good luck
ty bye
And for the other who need help Iβll get to you just wait
albedo and ainz trial gone now
@modest zodiac whatβs giving you the most problem
you can ss the damage by clicking the chart button on the defeat screen
always helps to see overall what the threats are
Because if itβs Mariel you can try using fawkes to possibly get rid of her
Or you can use Nara to directly attack her and stun her for a bit
Oh lo
I just kept throwing the same team at it and I eventually got a low enough damage roll on estrilda that she lives long enough for Lucius first shield
@little fern use luscious and Brutus for frontline.Use tasi,shemira, and Belinda for back line for backup use Cecilia to attack anyone across from her
Yeah rng plays a big role
Oof well thnx I guess lol. Iβll probably be back in the future
Iβll be here if you need it
yeah im still very much stuck on that one
If anyone wants you can add me
could probably post Kings tower instead maybe it's more doable, although it has khasos, ogi and nemora
ogi is pretty rough with knockback stun and shield
yea vedan dies in like 3 seconds
Any tips for a possible line-up? Considering my options for a team at this stage
Somebody can help me ? :(
Change tasi for albedo or thoran
Then forget vedan and keep hogan.
Just keep changing them youβll get it eventually
khasos is usually the one finishing my team off with his ult
Maybe i Need ti go afk for a day, this stage completely destroy me
Yeah or just try and completely level up your heroes
did more damage here
Thxs
Change Rowan for albedo @raw rune
@pale kettle definitely use talene best hero you can have.Also use Nara to get rid of the most annoying hero.use luscious and albedo for tank.Lastly use Rowan or ferael for last back line
all these show how much saveas is being targeted though, shows how good that 4% regen is
I know heβs strong at the beginning but your gonna have to upgrade your tanks more
i wasnt denying that, I'm doing as much as possible
at these high levels i have to wait a while to gather enough as i haven't got much of a winning streak and therefore not much rewarded xp
Just gotta farm the afk rewards for right now get better ark enhance it
better ark?
Armor my bad
ah ok
Best line up I can make?
Brutus and albedo or Lucretia for frontline and tasi,shemira, and nemora or safiya or saveas for back line @sterile jewel
Any advices on this team?
@worthy sand use luscious and Brutus or rosaline for frontline
Use shemira,Rowan, and Belinda or lyca
aight
@lone bough maybe try replacing Arden or Rowan for tasi
Wait do you have the crystal thing available or nah
Yes @tender ivy
Then put luscious in it so that he can be a tank absorb the damage
Replace the weaker frontline
I want to make a good team- anyone got any ideas?-
you should only level 5 heroes, there's the resonating crystal for the rest. only ascend to legendary when you can do legendary+. Also read the pins in #classic-questions to help give you an idea of how to structure your team
Alright
Any ideas?
Try changing Brutus for Nara but donβt put her across from athalia because sheβs gonna just die from instead put a tank
who should I put across athalia?
Help me too much stuck
Put talene across athalia so that she can revive her self @mild geyser
@hidden leaf try switching Nara and Fawkes or replace fawkes with nemora but switch wit Nara
thanks ill try it
Tyvm
Thoughts?
Hi i started the game but I donβt now what peoples can I up and use for my team
Pls help Iβm stuck again and Iβm almost done with ch-10
Right now focus on the blue characters especially Mirael,hogan,ira,silvina,saveas @rustic ermine
Move shemira to the back switching with grezhul @haughty furnace
@pale kettle itβs looking good but in the future or right now switch luscious with Rowan
Thx
Sheβs really strong
Ye and 3 more to goa
can't believe i just lost to nemora because of charm...
Thatβs tough just try again
and now I'm starting to hate that ugh it really messes with the start
since i dont want to have saveas next to ogi since it stuns and knocks back and has a shield, but nemora charms either one of saveas or arden/lyca
Who should I ascend?
and if saveas gets charmed, arden/lyca dies. if arden gets charmed, no rooting so it's really frustrating gonna have to try and get that rng again
is there a way to stop the charming because it really is getting annoying now that I'm noticing that it's probably the problem
Is there something I can do to make this lineup better?
silvina is back now as l+...
Any suggestions for 13-39? Shemira has been able to tank up to now, but the rest of the team is destroyed within 5 seconds. Should I simply level up the other champs?
i didn't miss them one bit
My current roster
@supple swallow toss belinda add arden maybe replace pippa with tasi u could push alot farther with more cc
So Arden, tasy, rowan at back...and Hogan/Shemira front?any particular order?
not rly just adjust if it doesnt work
They don't survive to even cast an ultimate...only shemira gets to cast one
whos doing the most damage?
Shemira does around 800k, all other champs are under 100k. From their side, Mirael
root mirael
how? Can I control who Arden casts on?
rng
Is there anything I can do to make this lineup better?
@mild geyser wow. I ran on the same tam and indeed it is quite random. Sometimes I do under 100k and then same comp shemira does over 500k. Still, I never manage to ko any of theirs
@mild geyser I already read it, but I still don't understand. I only need to know if I can make the lineup better with what I have?
@supple swallow I would take out torne from ur crystal and sub in lyca. With lyca u can put call on arden and have arden outspeed the hypogean mage and then have arden root him and mirael
use belinda instead of shem and put wukong on frontline. Move daimon back and replace izold with hogan
Alright. I appreciate the help.
also u could take out daimon and replace with rosa
Is it recommended?
whats recommended
Is it recommended that I replace Daimon with Rosa?
Best lineup for Albedo (Arena of Trials?)
@heady ridge u generally dont need 2 dps
dont level more than 5 heroes
toss thane luc and satrana
@tawdry jungle why are you putting Belinda in the front?Its better to have Hendrick
Then if your having trouble replace ainz for fawkes or Belinda for estrilda
@heady ridge maybe switch wu kong for daimon
Or if that doesnβt work change daimon for Nara
@steel mist nara/athalia the vurk
This lineup is carrying me quite well for now. Any suggestions? Eyeing up an L+ Rosaline soon because from my research she seems like a good early-mid game carry, but would have to scarifice my E+ Angelos (from my research he doesn't seem like he has much long-term potential). Leveled up Belinda a bit prematurely but can probably still get her to L+ if I get lucky with some pulls.
@steel mist reset luscious and level up Brutus
@pale kettle put eironn center back and put ogi in front also reset ogi,zaphrael,and flora and level up Belinda,ankhira, and niru
@wary mica yes Angelo is useless itβs better to get Belinda L+ but donβt get rid of hogan or rosaline
Change Rowan for saurus and lyca for shemira @dawn tree
power cap
Hey guys, who should I prioritize.s for furniture tier list ?
hello, do you guys have any suggestions for this one?
I have 1 empty slot in the crystal too
someone help me out
@drifting atlas replace Rowan for luscious as his more of a tank and maybe change rosaline for tasi or silvina
this is what i usually use
@river flint reset your hogan and upgrade your thoran
If you ever get stuck change out pippa for Nara
And put her across from the one your having more difficulty
thanks for the tips but my team still can't tank it π¦
yeah pippa dies so quick it feels like a waste using them
so is saveas as my carry good or should i change it to thoran or something
For right now itβs pretty good but at some point your gonna have to change him as his max tier is gonna max out pretty easy
cus iβm close to getting thoran to leg+ but not that close to getting saveas to leg
I replaced rowan for lucius but keep rosa and it works. thanks @tender ivy
Yeah sometimes you just gotta keep changing it until it works
Still stuck any suggestions? 
Change luscious or daimon for estrilda or albedo @formal gazelle
Change luscious or daimon for estrilda or albedo @formal gazelle
@tender ivy didn't work, you think fereal is a good carry?
Estrilda just gets melted
Worked had to try 20+ times think I got lucky lol
But next stage is a rip ill be stuck here for a bit too seems I might be underleveled
Sup all, Iβm in need of some help, I canβt seem to progress my lineup to be more effective, Iβm trying to progress thru dark forest zones but seem to keep losing
Hey, I'm not particularly stuck anywhere but now that I've got wukong to 100 I'm having some trouble with what i should invest in
i pulled her, random luck
u can get celehypo when pulling all heroes banner, but at a very small rate
Oh
Anyway I can pull this off by switching them around?
Or should I just restart the entire thing over
Open to new lineups too
Who is your rose boosting
Nemora
Oh
Ok this ogi is annoying me
Nvm
Ok I hate how tasi is always the last one alive y not grez or shemira
Because Tasi teleports when hit
Keeping her from more damage
@sonic remnant how are they so low on hp ?the match barely started
@little abyss reset wu Kong, silvina,basically all elite and power up elite + like estrilda nemora
@stuck bison reset Nara and solise and level up silvina and ankhira
The Fields of Stone
I have all the top challenges selected so it yoinks hp after the battle
Not to mention that's like the third battle
@tender ivy
Ooooh
Wait so how do you do that now that I think of it?
Well
You fight enemies with a bunch of debuffs on your team
The higher the difficulty, the rarer the rewards
But how you do that
Who should i ascend
@cyan sentinel i say dont ascend yet. You dont want to waste ascended tier heroes and only ascend to legendary if you can get to legendary plus.
Oh ok
What kind of team should i start building on this account?
need some help
Any chance to beat that lvl 169 wrizz ? (Can borrow almost every hero from friends/guild)
@wintry dune I'm not very good at comps but I'm going to try to help
Have you tried Saf+Eironn combo?
has anyone done 30-30 withous nara merc?
thanks raidana cleared the stage
Stage 10-36(boss stage)
Hi all newb here any suggestion for line up to do chapter 8 ? I am stuck in 8-20, tried to use Daimon as carry but it does not work . Shall I switch back to Wukong ?
Hello guys Im stuck at this lvl, any advices pls ?
@pale kettle try
Belinda
-lyca
Arden
-lady with the horse
Cecilia
@pale kettle ok
If that doesn't work, maybe you can add me and see how I beat it. I cant remember my formation, but most of my troops (maybe all) were lvl 120
Hi guys what team should I use for story progress? I'm at chap 22 and my Shemira can't even get her ult off anymore. Thanks.
it seems like the hypogean mage is the main problem, idk how to stop those
Did you try using fawkes? He banishes the strongest hero for few seconds
yeah i did
but brutus still has that immunity shield at the end
and idk how to stop the hypogean mage
Save fawkes ult till the end, it removes the shield
he dies p quickly
Can someone help me pls?
only mehira is alive with saveas near the end
Did you try athalia on the hypogen dude?
Hello guys Im stuck at this lvl, any advices pls ?
you should aim to have the carry 20-40 levels higher than the rest @hard folio
and can you ascend mirael to legendary? if not its definitely not worth it
uh, only one of those are fodder heroes, have you read the pins in #classic-questions?
Canβt see the part where it says which heroes are fodder
if you go to portraits in heroes the ones that say legendary tier heroes are the one that are fodder (common ones you can automatically get rid of in rickety cart they are useless)
so atm you only have hogan
it's also implied in the 2nd pin where it says example start
Ok thanks
2 day I am stuck on 9-4 wu kong keep dying first any changes I could make ?
wu Kong is not worth using at that point
I guess another tank then ?
I keep Talene then if I add rowan ?
i dont have talene myself, but i think wu kong should be replaced
p sure talene is a really good hero so don't get rid of them
Rosaline started following albedo maybe I should wait a bit and put Belinda 140 ?
you can get belinda to l+?
Any advice for arena and challenger formations?
oh right l gets you to 140 nvm, but you usually should get to l+ straight after l
and early game mirael or saveas is better
but you do have rosa so you can try levelling belinda up first before you consider that
I tried belinda recently but i don't have rosa
I got a second Belinda she is just not rare + yet so I can't get it legendary+
what about mirael and saveas?
Nope I can't get anyone to legendary+ yet I'll try and see if I can get past them by using mirael
What kill me is that I one shot the boss Everytime it's just veidan that won't die
really infuriating 2 or 3 heroes are living barely
oh who is silvina targeting
i hate them so much lol
could you show that same screen i just posted but for your stage obviously, click the stats button after it says defeat
the bottom right
Maulers 240 anyone?
Any advice on this one? Saveas & Mirael are destroying me...
Any tips? Maybe I should change my lineup?
oh its not silvina woops
are you not gonna try rowan then? i don't have experience with the one you have added
How do I get passed floor 120 of the tower of light with those lb?
Tried it already doesn't work
did you put them in the middle?
NVM replaced rosaline with him literally destroyed everyone nice
oh huh, how does belinda function without her lol
Btw should I sacrifice that l+ angelo to make fawkes mythic, (I wanted to keep him for a rowan but I only have 1 elite rowan so far)
Visibly she does π
i mean Angelo is fodder but idk if fawkes is worth using it on, could give him the bulk he needs since he dies pretty quickly usually, but they may be better options for mythic (i haven't even gotten legendary yet)
Well I'm also going celerity on AE so putting it on fawkes could help me there too, I'm just wondering if I'll get enough fodder again by the time I reach 8 rowans
ah, rowan is definitely worth saving fodder for
And idk if ascending this fawkes rn would even help me with this floor 120 tower of light
yea if you're focusing on rowan i think it's worth waiting
Well it might take me months anyway
Only got 1 elite rowan so far as I mentioned
And I'm not using faction scrolls on lb
oh yeah hm... its taking me a while to even get to legendary without using ascended tiers
What faction should i spend my faction scrolls on?
rowan is really good, but if you think you won't make it past that until you ascend, then maybe you should just do it
oh lol
How do i beat this?
p.s. my belinda sucks
Cursed stage. Any recommendations?
What lineup should I invest in?
I'm getting reasonably close
I tried Arden for Vedan, but he got one shot by Silvina :x
Nara gets stuck in the web by Ank
Vedan just bats over the field and clears it
@raw niche Lol here we are again
@native wave if I had a dollar for every time someone answered here I'd have to sell my kidney because I'd be broke ass mf
Lol
It's been 85 years..... (actually more like 4 days but yea) HELP they just delete my Lucius in a second and then slowly pick off my heroes one by one (dont yell at me for my L heroes I did this before I even knew pins existed let alone was in this server, I am working on fixing this)
I started playing a couple of days ago and I have gotten some new characters in just not sure which are good.
You can just push through with 1 character up to ch. 6
i can also buy shemira from the guild store
Those are really nice, but for mid-game
I still don't have a single Lyca 
damn shes really good
Yeah when she's post 100
The hastes ><
Anyways make your tanks Hogan and Lucius
DPS must be Mirael, you can put Gwyneth and Lyca on either wing
Should I make any changes since I am closing in on lvl 141 with some of my heroes (I need fodder desparately ik)
May i ask why hogan?

Gratz @wintry dune !!!