@karmic orbit ty a lot for your answer, I really appreciate it can you just explain in noob words what do you mean by "try to get your carry after wukong (mirael/saveas)"
@wispy trout wukong is amazing but now yours lv capped 120 (he is a celestial and its very hard to ascend him) you need to start build your carry up to 160 which is either saveas/mirael
#lineup-help
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Stuuuuuuuuuck plx halp
Anything low level for this mf?
Stuuuuuuuuuck plx halp
@queen path eiron is not a carry for below 160, if you have mirael make her lv 141 and the rest you want to add support like arden, (all in your comp now mostly frontliner)
who is great to partner with wukong?
@karmic orbit thats what I tried every time (its my main lineup). Vedan is more annoying than silvina
@karmic orbit my frontline doesnt exist, its deleted
I'm stuck again and I'm not very fond of the recommended lineups by the guides here. Any recommendations based on my current heroes?
idk i just searched up 32-60 in discord. I have no idea on comp building this late
already did that
do you think I should just do 10 levels away from carry for now? 20 just seems too inconsistent
After making them 10 I've done way better
Can someone tell me what am I doing wrong do I need gear or higher level or something else...
read pins in #classic-questions
Is there some decent team comp I can make out of my current heroes? My team rn seems to be missing some aspects but I’m not seasoned enough to know what they are
@mighty oracle i suggest this line up, use zaphrarl instead of my talene cause i dont have one
How about the level distribution? Who's gonna be pumped to 81? I'm really starved on EXP somehow.
share the exp equally to every heros of the lineup, but i think u should focus on shemira
instead of upgrading like what are u doing rn, u maybe can get every heroes to 70
@pale kettle @mighty oracle dont share xp equally. Level ur carry up 20-40 levels above everyone else
@mild geyser and what happens when you get to a stage where your tanks just get smacked?
then u change ur formation
ive tried that 1000x ways
So i keep losing in both tower and campain what should i do is my positioning good and should i swap any heroes out?
then afk and level up. U cant expect to push to chapter 30 in a week unless ur a whale
@mild geyser do you have a formation recommendation for this?
i havent used gwyn before and I used a very weird comp for that stage.
ahh ok - she carried me this far, but then again i've spent 250-300+
i would try to get gwyn to hit ferael but i dont know much about gwyn teams
or maybe get nemora to charm ferael and keep gwyn there
yhh thats what i aimed for but shemira just melts my tanks + if i use tasi she banishes farael so i tried nemora to charm
i used tasi + mehira to perma sleep so i dont really know
hmm i have a mehira so maybe ill try that
she's just elite though so probably will get insta killed
@grim smelt I used this maybe change belinda with gwyn and move her around https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/762428763505164288/unknown.png
ok sweet ill try that - waiting on resets tonight as well for regal rewards, CoF and twisted bounty rewards
Swap tasi for nemora, brutus for the dimensional
Or swap nemora for nara put gwen in middle and bottom have tasi
awesome ill give that a shot
Is there anything I can do to pass this lvl? Tried every variation without much succes
im not specialist but have u tried to put tank on front line?
Hi guys please I'm stuck at 9-20 :((
Yup, Lucius die in one hit lol
Those are my heroes
@pale kettle have you upgraded your armour?
or maybe level your lucius to 121 instead of rowan
and give him drape
I will just until tomorrow I guess
Guys please, help me too 😦
Following the Pippa guide, I'm stuck at this stage. For whatever reason, this doesn't work. Can someone please help me find a lineup that does?
Help, I get melted insantly
any way to get this

here are my heroes
@random hinge. This worked for me. Pippa and Seirus only ones left standing
can anyone send those pictures for trials?
are you sure it's the same stage you're looking at? look at our available heroes. @warm swan
Any ideas lads? I usually run a Wilder load out because of the healing, but it isn't working here, obviously
Need help on beating this please
@pale kettle Is that what you used for the past 4 stages?
Damn, wish I didn't have to make a new loadout every 5-6 stages lmao
@random hinge My bad, really sorry
What is the best 5 i can make?
Any suggestions for early-mid game lineup?
Rare+ hogan or elite niru as my main tank? I started over so I don't have the free elite hogan yet
@warm swan it's ok. i got a lineup that works in #classic-questions.
@broken juniper You are not early-mid game you are very early game. You got reallt lucky with Safiya and Ferael cuz they are both really good heros. I suugest you focus on Brutus, Safyia , Ferael, and Khasos can also be good
@oak spruce just pump all your levels into a carry, you dont need tanks this early
@pale monolith alright ty
Np
No tank at all? I'm on chapter 5 btw
How do I win bountiful trial top right Pippa?
@amber halo There are guides on YT, @oak spruce Niru isnt a tank and he isnt that great. Hogan can be useful at your dtage and you need 2 tanks
Only other tank I really have is an elite ogi. Will he do?
Skelly it didn't work those guides
@amber halo Worked for me, @oak spruce He will do
Idk wu kong and hogan in front with nemora, lyca and tasi in back seems to be working pretty well for now
can someone help me make a pvp team?
What is a good early game lineup that I could run and what characters should I focus on building up
Can I ask someone with help about my lineup? I'm stuck at chapter 9-20
Hi all, I'm leveling those blue heroes and now I'm putting my main line in the crystal. But don't know what to put there. For now I have:
tank: Lucius
carry: Shemira
supports: Rowan
Then I have two slots: is good for campaign If I use Ains + Lucretia, or should I put a more supporter char like Tasi?
Ainz need time to be really useful with his ulti
Can anyone suggest me a 2nd team for the future? Currently using saf eirron comp and anything above LG+ can go to ascended and twins will be ascended soon
@solemn pollen first of all, E+ your rowan you have 2 copies, put tasi in crystal and luci, luci will fall off soon since she is low ascenscion tier so just a heads up
@kindred lynx my man can you help me too with my lineup?
@upper nova send your box
Daimon, lyca, rowan, tasi, brutus/hogan not sure which one is better, ainz
@upper nova daimon and brutus/hogan in front, rowan in middle back
Okay and until now I get it
I crave for a tank like Lucius
what should my level difference be? 20 almost never works, closer to 10 seems better
Beating my head against the wall that is 15-40 any suggestions?
@solemn pollen first of all, E+ your rowan you have 2 copies, put tasi in crystal and luci, luci will fall off soon since she is low ascenscion tier so just a heads up
@kindred lynx Luci = Lucretia in this case?
@solemn pollen yes
btw my ass is being kicked a lot in this map:
@wispy galleon
Bellinda
Antandra
Lyca
Rosa(rosa in front since she will run to bellinda and lucius will become new front line)
Lucius
shouldn't rowan be going in the middle? that's where i always put them
@kindred lynx nothing to do hahaha both hogan and brutus get jumped pretty quick
which are you putting hogan or brutus in front of
Ahh rosa runs to antaranda and I think it's Fereal just DELETING my team when they fall below 30%
also any help with this? silvina is the main problem idk how to deal with them, still don't know many cc options and also should i keep levelling the team with the carry being only 10 levels ahead? 20 wasn't working
It did work though, after a couple of tries thank you @kindred lynx
@raw rune reset everyone to 80 and get saveas to 120 and it will be a piece of cake
they all die instantly except saveas now @rigid birch
@raw rune try to get saveas to legendary
yes I'm trying to get all of them to legendary+... but the fodder isn't there for any of them yet
i mean saveas, mirael, hogan and silvina
@raw rune normally poeple tell you to not go to legendary and wait till you have an extra E+ copy of the hero, but try to legendary saveas as soon as you get 2 fodder E+
Because he is a fodder hero, his other E+ copy is far easier to get than an ascended tier hero
I've barely gotten any saveas so it's not easy and i currently have no other fodder maulers
mirael is literally stuck at rare+ atm
is it really worth waiting until i can ascend saveas to advance stages?
sorry if i sound rude or ungrateful for help
nah you are fine, not sure what you mean by waiting, just keep summoning daily no matter what, but you should always try the stage everyday
yea i do as soon as i get 2.7k but with all the resetting heros I'm doing lately it's getting harder to achieve that
I've probably done like 15 resets in the past few days
A lot of this game is just waiting, I spent like 4 months in ch 20, but after that I was so set I pushed to ch 26 in 2-3 weeks
emphasizing on @kindred lynx single scrolls dont hurt , single 300 diamond pulls are worse value so keep doing 2.7k 10 pulls
Your progression really comes down to your luck of getting the heroes you want, and getting copies of heroes either takes a lot of $ or time
wow 4 months, ok so it's definitely not unusual lol
I'll try to be more patient then
and yea i spend the other summons when i get them
What would be the best lineup I can make (campaign) with the heroes I currently have? Any other tips would also be really appreciated! :)
probably trying to rush this game too much i only started like 5 days ago or something
thanks for help @kindred lynx and @rigid birch
@raw rune part of the game my man
Anyone got any tips for me above
maybe put brutus instead of estrilda and you're good
Tried that and Savaes eats him alive
tried lucius with call behind brutus so he can put his shield down?
pippa in the middle actually makes her cast her spells correctly
yea I'm gonna need to ascend to beat this silvina idk why it's so powerful
@raw rune rowan can stall a silvina for a while bc of his immunity
true but rowan still can't tank the hits gets like 4 shot
and then the rest finish off saveas while he is attacking silvina
hey guys just started 2 days ago and stuck at chapter 8. Any recommendation on what's best comp on what I have?
Shermia
only thing i spend is the 19.99 advancement package
I cant fucking win
Hello everyone, I am new to the game and not able to progress. Any suggestions? I have purple summon card what faction should I try to summon from?? Thank you x)
seems I got unlucky with my draws and dont not good frontline 😦
@raw rune any character I should aim for specifically?
have you read the pins in #classic-questions?
it has a wishlist you should use in there
@raw rune hai I read wish list but I want a character for my specific team I have now x)
First you should get wu kong
@raw rune I will get him but who should he replace?
i think either one of the hypogeans @warm ruin
i dont have lucretia personally and mehira is good imo
Pls halp do I invest in any of these heroes?
@raw rune thank you very much for the help . Also why use purple summon for light faction?
pretty sure there's something in pinned lemme check
Tips?
@raw rune awesome!! You're the best~
and if you're stuck on other things ask in #classic-questions there are lots of people who can help that are a lot more experienced than me (except for lineups which would go here)
no problem
Currently stuck.
@wary chasm try like
lucius
rowan
nara
belinda/shem
lyca
Pls comp
Should I replace someone with rosaline? If so who?
@velvet belfry thank you for the Nara tip
Got finally through
@dark raven never fodder ascended tier heroes, dont L if u cant L+, and thane isnt that great
I screwed up on Thane but got another Elite+ after
So I will wait to get better Saveus fodder
since you have him alr at L get thane to L+ and stop there
oh yea u can safely ascended e to e+ and fodder are guys with 3 skills
Ah ok, didn’t know 3 skill thing
saurus carried me so hard in chapter 10 lmao
So is Saurus fodder after Legendary +?
no. He meant heroes whos max ascension is L+
Can he go higher?
He had only 3 skills though?, Thought that was a distinguishing feature?
are you confusing saurus for someone else
OMG, yes I confused with Saveus and was working on him!!!
Good thing you caught this for me or I would have a Legendary + Saveus
a L+ saveas is not bad generally u wanna use saveas/mirael as ur carry
Ok, so Saveus can be my carry to start. My bad getting confused
Any idea how ic can pass this
maybe something like
tasi
talene
cecilia
belinda
lyca
u wanna level up ur carry 20-40 levels above everyone else
if u have an arden replace tasi or lyca and have arden root vedan
Arden only rare
12th time asking help pls ):
Step one, use daimon
Step two, profit
team 1: eironn safiya ezizh
team 2: cheese/daimon/gwyneth
That’s old meta
Damion dies in 2 seconds cause he is only mythic
Get him +20, or just merc
He won’t do it without +20
Damm welp maybe next week
You can merc my daimon at merc reset if you want
Any tips im a bit stuck
Really close with just plus ten imma try again with rng
stuck at 28-26, anyone can help me set up a team?
Just throw in Eironn saf you’re like 40 levels over it should be easy
Can anyone help me with 31-60
I die within 15 seconds
@haughty heart 12345 Rowan talene daimon nara Lyca
Could also drop talene for oden, in which Lyca slot 2 and oden 5
Chapter 27 Start Saurus or finish nemora. Only care about campaign
Suggestions for this? I am not having any luck.
here @past urchin
@autumn raven I beat it with a similar lineup. Just had Wukong Lucius front line and changed Rowan for Pippa
@vocal sluice my team gets butchered as soon as enemy lucius activates his shield
I unfortunately don't have Lucious.
try wukong instead of Daimon?
here's the sort of results
@raw rune
I think its too early for Saveas.
He's pretty gear dependent.
Id lvl 100 Wukong, drop Sav and bring Tasi in.
hm ok I've already been recommended that but idk if i tried tasi
tasi was definitely really useful until these later stages though
Dont take me for granted though pls.
Ive only been playing a couple weeks myself.
Im somewhere mid ch12 :)
I just experimented around.Though I really think your Sav cant break through the frontlines in time.
I dont know how Isabella targeting works though chances are she will be hitting the clones rather than your actual guys.
Any got tips on 31-60?
dont put wukong in,saveas is meant to be a dps dealer and wukong at E and only lvl 100 he will be doing less than saveas for you
tbh most of them are dead by the time wu kong uses his ult
@raw rune are you short on dust
which one is the dust
the purple stuff
i dont think so but I'm slowly getting really low on gems from the resets lol
ok, when you can limit break wukong to level 81, but dont level him up past that for now
@raw rune also, reset estrillada, remove rowan from the crystal and limit break rowan
I'll do it one more time but its getting a lot, and ok
@raw rune your main issue is you are limit breaking the units you arent using
it's not the same with crystal heroes?
no, crystal is based on the lowest level hero
and since some of your 5 units arent all lvl 81, it caps out at 80
@raw rune reset arden and estrillada, remove rowan from crystal, and with that remain resources level up rowan and wukong once
oh they weren't when i reset they were around lv90
@raw rune u should try using a Mirael instead of Sev
mirael is too low ascension dies too quickly
He doesent have her built I don't believe
only rare+ atm i was originally using mirael
@raw rune ok, so do you have the dust to level up wukong to the next skill?
oh rip. I had a similar comp Wukong and Mirael carried me that had 4 light bringer/1 celestial
@kindred lynx
How far can Mirael get me?
I got her 160, 141 Lucius and Ive just started working on Arden.
Cant L+ Saveas.Mauler fodder literally eludes me :/
to lv81?
yes
yeah i think i do
@past urchin you just need one or the other, you dont need both saveas and mirael, how far are you in campaign
Can someone help me with what kind of teams i should start building
@lime fjord what is your box
My box?
wait so who are the 5 that should be on my non-crystal team?
like all your heroes @lime fjord ss a picture
god damn orthros talene that early
Ikr
@raw rune thats up to you, but like i said, just reset estrillada and arden, then you want to remove rowan from the crystal, and with the resources you refunded relevel arden back to level 80, but this time make both rowan and wukong level 81
@lime fjord do a fun comp with wukong eironn safiya and destroy the ever living shit out of the heroes pulled by eiron
+talene rowan
Ok, how would that kind of lineup do lategame?
so i should still make saveas high level?
However I've pulled like 7 Eironns.
Got the late game if I ever get there 😂
eironn safiya rowan IS a late game comp
best f2p campaign team
@raw rune leave him where he is rn
Nice, tysm
yw
this is current
On 6-40: what should I run as main 5? And for faction scrolls, are GB the choice now because of Damon?
just reset the heroes I said, remove rowan from crystal, then this time make rowan and wukong level 81
stuck on 11-16. any tips?
Im somewhere mid ch12.
@kindred lynx
Not really stuck by any means.
Its getting tough though.
My supports are 120.
@hallow crown show us a ss of the stage and what team you are using
@past urchin she shoul be good enough until 16-17, then fodder her for bellind or smth
should i move hogan back down to 81 and then level up saveas as much as possible?
@raw rune no you need your tank to high lvl
oh ok
I have 5 L+ heroes at the crystal too.
Just dont have enough hero exp to level them up.
And Ive been told not to use the chests.
Kinda stuck atm 😕
@hallow crown your main issue is your entire team is just cc without dps
my dps is pippa
Lol
Was trying for faction bonus, but should I reinvest to something else?
@hallow crown does your lucius have that skill where when his shield is up energy regerates?
nope that's 141
In any case I salute you for using Pippa.
That hero is RNG incarnate!
Setup?
lol well I got 6 of her so I dont really have a choice
Not sure what to do in that situation then, sorry best bet is just waiting and leveling unitl shield 141 since thats useful for a huge portion of the game, can tank saveas, brutus, etc
@fiery crescent show your entire box
Oh he gets that at 141?
3 more levels then.
It’s arena of trials my last one
@fiery crescent also remove estrillada for fawkes
Can’t remove ainz that’s the mode
@fiery crescent remove estrillada for gwyn put her behind arthur
Main 5? Which faction to go for? Ty
ok this is rough i think i really will have to wait to ascend since silvina is so annoying with isabella
Can someone help me with a solid lineup to just clear a bunch of campaign?
Wait till you get them both along with Khasos, Niru and Vedan @raw rune 😂
It’s not working @kindred lynx
@raw rune damn you still with silvina? you could probably check afk rewards and have enough to level saveas 
nah I'm gonna be here a while
i literally need an ascension to stand a chance @rigid birch
oh god that sounds horrible @past urchin
Anyone got suggestions what to use vs that arena defense? My current team used to work 70-30 while he was lvl 445. Now it is like 10-90. Can use almost all heroes except the last few added.
eironn can mess up the team if he faces rowan, probably u can do burst with eironn lyca nako @ember stone
Yeah, just not enough burst. Even then would probably not be too high % of a success
can u send ur heroes
oh yeah and look @rigid birch lol
@ember stone if you really care about pvp, ascend zolrath and your winrate becomes higher
try
Fawkes
---->Lyca
Gwyneth
---->Eironn
Zolrath
@raw rune brutus is a pain, fawkes makes short work of him tho
try to time fawkes ult when brutus pops immunity
hm i could try that
Need 2 more for ascension. Also i just might be a bit too much to win with 40m power dif in arena...
@ember stone overleveled godcomps are hard man 
wow that almost worked i might be able to cheese this with good rng
oh yeah isabella
ummm try brutus where she attacks
i got sooo close
can u level saveas more or are u out of xp?
it was down to 2 very low health brutus and then that stupid Shield saved them atm out i think
yeah not enough
try taking off auto when you think the brutus puts his immunity and time fawkes ult
maybe give fawkes ur 2nd best agi gear
i think he has it unfort
put saveas infront of fawkes so he's protected by saveas
Need help
swap lucius and daimon maybe
doesn't help since brutus targets fawkes after they are coffined
Hello can you give me any idea?
@real flicker
Tasi
---->Lyca
Rowan
---->Eironn
Safiya
@real flicker who does Tasi banish?
Also you might have to rng a saf ult for that Tasi if she’s 1v5ing
swap lucius and daimon maybe
@rigid birch not working
maybe athalia on safiya fawkes on morvus/mirael
@slender siren last hope is mercing a gwyneth and watch the backline melt like butter
@slender siren cc that safiya with nara or athalia
yea there's literally no way i can get fawkes off at the right time before dying
Been trying everything on this stage, any tips?
@royal thorn honesly, you should always have rosa there to boost shemira
swap out pippa you think?
shemira should be always front line, and as for current stage maybe Brutus second front line
yeah, try Brutus shem front, lyca or fawk, rowan rosa
arden should be good also up Backline if not dies too soon
Thank you!
well, i hope it will work, rosaline it's a huge boost for shemira
i used to use her, but when i got belinda ascended i switched to her as carry and found success in that line-up with pippa and daimon. now i just gotta figure out the next stage
there's no better carry than shem. until later
but well, deppends of her ascension,gear etc
Belinda a, it's a waste.
I agree, have realized later on that i rushed that one
you will be good if ascend shemira, until chap 27+. but you need a second front line. I personally like Lucius until late on, but you can play with a Brutus for a while
I have been quite unlucky and only gotten 2 copies of lucius. So he always dies before he makes use of himself. You think i should ascend shemira as soon as possible, or try to get daimon mythic?
well, daimon won't carry until later, sure thing. I would go for shemira first, since she can front line easy
a good setup, it's meh, since you lack a second Frontline, shem Brutus front, rosaline rowan and the last one, can be fawk/arden/hypogeans
maybe Belinda sometimes. to boost shem, I dunno, you still need more heroes for now
You reckon i should go for graveborn with the faction scrolls i get for completing chapter 16 to get food and ascend shemira. Or lightbearers? missing 1 copy to get rowan mythic
better lb, to get asecended rowan, then I would go for wilders, eironn lyca tasi, and mauler... safiya
with this team you can finish chap 30 31
...well this just happened @rigid birch
this formation
Well floor 100 has brutus and 2 khasos and saveas so yeah too much power this time
What would be the best team composition here , i am pretty new players just started the game a week ago
read pins in #classic-questions U probably wanna switch to saveas/mirael carry but may have to use belinda for a little bit
Ok and is albedo has a character in general ? she has pretty much all my best gear
u can link her to another one of ur heroes to copy their ascension and levels so I would say she can stay relevant
I'm not even doing damage at this last stage of chapter 16. Seems like it's just about my power and i gotta afk for a bit
should i replace saveas with mirael if it gets to elite+ before saveas gets to legendary?
@royal thorn I would take out daimon tbh. Idk how he does pre +20
@raw rune i mean I wouldnt do it yet. If ur mirael has higher ascension and saveas is capped then I would switch
I have, using another comp now. Hold on, can send a picture
atm it's mirael e and saveas e+ @mild geyser
so mirael is not on the team (and it just became e)
I would wait
Tried what xperta told me to
Really stuck now and i've tried tasi, raine as support but unsure what to do
@royal thorn either nara/athalia the arden or use lyca and arden to root the arden
Shemira still dies up there@mild geyser
im not really sure cuz i used belinda and just bursted down the kaz lyca and arden at once
@tiny forum I can try
can i show you my current line-up and you tell me how bad is it ? 😆
@dusky sage I would nara or charm the ferael and move rowan up front and have brutus behind the rowan but other than that I cant really help
read the pins in #classic-questions Rn u probably would use belinda as a carry till 120 but ideally u wanna use mirael/saveas. Also I would toss vedan and solise from ur crystal and put in talene and put in rosa if u dont go saveas
So i need to get mirael/saveas right ?
ideally yes
i could downgrade lucretia and put belinda level 100 ?
and set rosa and talene in my cristal* ?
@royal thorn I haven't said Lucius, but rosaline. if you want, try
lyca
Brutus
rowan
shem with grace
arden
yea. Once belinda hits 120 try and see if u can make mirael or saveas L or L+
maybe you can win by arden root
idk how she works early game but I think shes squishy without proper equipment and gets good later in the game
it's a whale hero, it's only good ascended and maxed sig etc etc
i can show you what she have in gear she rarely die in combat
is getting through 7 1/2 chapters in 6 days good?
dont upgraded non mythic factionless gear
no faction gear. Ur weapon and chest has a faction while ur boots and helmet doesnt
Eh, its not harmful if +3 at all
you will. enchant something else with them. later on
yea but ig it would be best to get into the habit so u dont t1 factionless mythic gear(never do this)
ok so this sword would be great on Talene then since its the same faction
does ur arden root arden before enemy arden?
Usually enemy arden roots first sometimes both at the same time. Never before
use call on arden
Would Belinda be a better carry at lvl 120 over Mireal? I could also get Belinda to Legendary but not L+, could get Mireal to L+ sacrificing Hogan and Raine.
dont L if u cant L+ (fodder tier heroes are exempt from this) and dont fodder ascended tier heroes
Would my dura grace be good on talene since her ult drain most of her life ?
Any idea who I should build for pve chapter 6?
read pins in #classic-questions
@tiny forum I would use grace on ur tank tbh. talene might work but I havent tried it
So can Belinda replace Mirael this early then? Until I get a second copy for L+? Or is Mirael better to L+ and still carry?
they are unreadable for me .....
mirael would be better
read maybe the first two pins
Arden roots first, but shemira still dies when enemies unroot. I could flip it over and try belinda again you think?
with belinda i had arden root kaz and arden, then ulted on kaz once she was rooted
I'll try, should i change something else in the lineup then?
try something like
lyca
talene
rowan
belinda
arden
im pretty sure thats what i used
Actually worked with belinda dude, thank you!
What can i improve on my heroes ?
Tips? I usually run my Wilder Loadout because of the healing, but it's not working here, obviously
really hate silvina....
Can anyone help me with my teams
Any advice is appreciated.
Hey, I need some help building a team, I have some options, but idk if they have synergy. Could someone help me?
@hushed timber try
tasi
rowan
talene
belinda
arden
@mild geyser who do I want silvina to target?
@mild geyser only way silvina will target rowan is if i make rowan gearless
yea i usually sacked rowan on silvina stages
My lineup is:
Wu Kong, Estrilda, Raine, Thane, Rigby, Brutus, Numisu, Safiya, Lyca, Tasi, Gorvo, Saurus, Pippa, Nara, Baden, Izold, and Daimon.
take a ss of ur heroes
ss?
screenshot
I would first read the first 2 pins in #classic-questions
Gotcha! Thank you!
So is this any good now ?
Anyone got any lineups that might work for me?
@pale kettle
- saurus izold (/single target) front line
- eironn middle back + fawkes/tasi protection for gwyn
Hmm, have to wait till next week to get a good izold. Who's another good single target? Nevermind Lyca worked. Thanks fish
How does this team look?
Anyone?
Okay, sorry about so many questions, I've replaced wu kong with Mirael, how should I set this up?
replace gorvo with brutus and get faction bonus i guess?
should i replace mireal? i saw she is not super high on the charts but she seems to be doing fine
Is thoran good enough as a tank in mid game? I was thinking of using him with Shemira to get the faction bonus.
Which main 5 should I use?
Also, what’s the new meta for lab spending and which faction to go for? I’m seeing to buy Arthur and to go LB until 3-4 copies of Rowan and then go Wilders
Should I use an elite+ saveas instead of elite wu kong as my carry hero?
Any help here would be appreciated
Need help finishing the chapter
Is there an alternative comp for this enemy. The comp in tge guide isnt working. Its the same putcome everytime.
This doesnt work
hey ive been stuck and i dont know what to do
Should I ascend Belinda or Gwyneth first?
Can I get help with a line up to beat 7-32. I have 5 slots open in my resonating crystals as well.
Build arden
suggestions?
Any suggestions?
Who should I put in my remaining resonance crystal slot?
I was thinking maybe oden since he's my only decent graveborn but not sure
Im stuck on this part of Pippa Bount trials, help? -
who should i focus and what fodder heroes should i focus on building for a campaign team?
@formal prawn look at pings in #classic-questions its the first or second ish ping
Stuck here. Going smoothly up til this point.
Still early game, Im using 3 caries a tank and a support. Should I be doing anything different with my current lineup? My current heros loose hp very fast on stages.
I'm still kinda new but aren't you supposed to just use one carry and level it up more than your other heroes?
Yeah, I didnt see those guides till recently. Now im not sure if I should replace things or what.
My hp is drained faster than I can count. Ive enhanced equipment, leveled em up, ect.
If I can get hogan to legendary should he replace lucius?
Of course i'll prioritize mirael
@spring gyro I see ur using both: mirael and saveas, its better to focus just mirael. Also dont enchant gear unless its mythic
What would be the best lineup here?
@tired dove wukong to lvl 100, the rest dont matter for now, just get the faction bonus, so for example use 4 lightbearers + wukong
@toxic steeple ur on ur way to getting stuck with lvl 140 heroes, dont make too a hero legendary if u dont have enough copies to make it Legendary +. Get mirael to L+ and use rosaline, lucius, tasi, arden
Who is arden?
Stuck and probably need to get shemira to elite+ and maybe level my other heroes more to progress. Anything at all I can do here?
@hallow wraith try arden instead of nemora and if solise isn’t doing damage swap her out for baden.
Any tips,
Currently using top row, stuck at 7-4. Should I switch out anything?
Having trouble with their healing, I’m staying alive fine, just their back middle guy is healing soooo much
@torn valve didn't work do I just wait until I get things to ascend
@hallow wraith try using evironn and pull khasos in while using belinda, if belinda ults you pretty much win
which support do I keep rowan?
Nvm, I swapped Shem for Eironn and 1 shot it
Please help
Level 9-19
Do I have anything worth making into my first mythic? It will likely eat Mirael if I did..
@high pivot I'm stuck here, tried to use arden but he keeps getting interrupted before he can root
Even tasi can't banish anyone
looks like you're getting stun from the mages in the back
swap tasi for lucius (yours) and he'll run up and stun vedan. You just need to cc him before his ult goes off.
what are your other options for units?
Just tried lucius, he ran up, casted his blessed shield and just stand there till vedan ult
that's basically what's gonna happen
it depends on if mirael can kill or not you can also try swap mirael with rosaline and rnging it so that rosaline doesn't get 1 tapped.
Rosa doesn't get 1 shot, but I can't rly cc vedan, 1 ult from mirael couldn't kill him
how low does he get?
Oh can't even get enough energy on mirael to ult before he transform
swap mirael back to the frontline with rosaline then
What should I focus leveling first?
wukong @autumn pond only until chapter 6 then mirael or saveas as your carry if you check #classic-questions the pins have all the information there
Same outcome, i can get him down to around 55-60% before he transform
Ok thank you :)
But still don't have enough energy to ult, rosa even stunned him once
I rly need a 2nd cc
can you post your picture again?
o wait
you have nemora, swap out rowan put rosaline back middle with nemora behind mirael and reset for charm rng lucius can be with talene in this case or you can swap in tasi for lucius in that case
If nemora doesn't work you can always try to rng with arden's root
but that's gonna be mostly trial and error for you until you start seeing some more delays
I tried arden a few times, but he got interrupted everytime
Another thing you can try is resetting mirael and investing in saveas as he's single target dps focused and doesn't deal 25% less damage to vedan
I thought she only take 25% more dmg from graveborn?
no sorry you are correct there. The only other thing I can propose is waiting to raise your minimum level you can try dropping talene for rowan and praying for an early ultimate to stun him but I don't think it makes any sense there.
K, I'll try sth else, thanks for the help anw
I'm on 17-21 right now, and I've been heavily leaning on Baden. I can ascend him once I get one more R, but I've been kinda trudging lately. Any advice? I've been running Lucius to shield clones and the team, Raine to debuff the enemies for the clones, Estrilda to buff the clones, and typically either Rosaline for support, Saveas for extra damage or type advantage, Nemora for heals (But at this juncture she just dies way too easily to be viable.) I've wanted to make a team with Satrana, Numisu, and maybe Saveas but it's hard being this far invested. Any advice? (Returning player.)
still stuck on this one
Wukong goes in front
Saveas in back
What team should I use to clear this?
I always ruin out of power around the 4th camp
I had 2 comps for that Trial of God. Saw someone on reddit so I copied it.
Sustain Comp has
Lucuis
Rosaline(follows Lucuis)
Mehira
Ezizh
Nemora(could be Talene)
For the hard fights (Oden and Khazard fights) I just used standard Eironn comp
@sonic remnant
any advice on a good comp? im literally clueless
https://i.imgur.com/a69JaNf.png https://i.imgur.com/WOPwKxU.png Any ideas on what I can do for this stage?
@blissful parcel
Which challenges though?
Also idk if my Ezizh will work at only elite
Ye the only major difference between us is I have a bit tankier ezizh at L+
Since I just got Fawkes, is there anywhere I might be able to slot him in?
Awesome
Thanks!
@blissful parcel
Sorry for the additional ping but does gear matter in there? Since it's martial ratings?
I don't know for sure but I put in the correct faction gears just in case hehe
Halp
Been stuck at 7-40 for a while now, what lineup should i use given the heroes i currently have?
How do I beat this goddamn level I'm using the guide line up and I've retried about a hundred times
@bronze nova why is Brutus in the back
There's already 2 tanks on front line
please help me make a good comp 😿
Halp
Anybody?
@twilit forum swap Fawkes and Rowan
then try couple times? (like 10 times?)
Basically you want a unit that can dodge Athalia's initial attack
ty got it with 15 seconds leftr :p
Should I use Raine or Nemora as my 3rd support? My other two are Rowan and Rosaline
Nvm I’m using Arden
@charred radish shemira, rowan and i think farael in the back row, and lucius with izold front row
you can also switch farael/izold with nara/eironn. Just play around a bit and see what works best
can somebody please help me with a lineup for 10-40? thanks
Post the enemies and your hero page
Im not a pro but try luci rowan seveas x x (mauler?) for 2/3 bonus
in what order ya think?
Rowan luc front
okey ill level and give it a try
i honestly have no clue ive been trying this for multiple days lmao
Make sure you try to kill the vampire dude before he ults
yeah he rails my whole team
I was stuck on that aswell
I'm stuck on silvina and isabella stages rn
@sage coral play around im not sure, seveas is your carry
okey dokey thanks for the help ❤️
Gl 👍
thanks 🙂
Is that Wrizz?
Yea it is
It is my third lab and second wrizz, the first time I beat him to a pulp so I wasn't to worried, not sure what to do now
Id put Raine under the crystal and drop Daimon.
Raine makes your damage skyrocket.
For this encounter that is ofc.
Daimon does most damage tho, by a long shot too, I tested it
I checked out raine and that seems like a great idea
I opened some slots already but I'll need to wait
Also Wrizz is considered a Mauler.Lightbearer carries do extra damage to him.
Belinda or something like that.
Always worth a try.
And I think Daimon actually suffers a 25% penalty being GB
Ow damn, that sucks, I'll try some other stuff
would appreciate some help on this stage, need to advance this for mythic trick ^^
Try putting Dura's Eye on Rosa so she generates energy faster and your Sav is in perma haste mode due to his ult.
Any ideas I get meted instantly
hmm it just worked now... rng arena at it's finest i guess
:) a few lucky crits here and there.
Daimon has no penalties, but I tried to use the light bonus to little avail
Anyone got LB 261 without Belinda ?
Oh right.Its the Wilders that have a penalty against it @plush merlin
Try with Raine.
Also it may just turn out impossible if your relics suck :/
I had the same exact problem.
Melted him on my 1st encounter...the 2nd not so much.
@past urchin i did it, removing lucius was key
Im stuck rn
Ive be told to only use mureal, not saveas. Who should I replace him with?
You should use rosalina
Ill try it, thanks.
Congrats! @plush merlin
The last thing I would have done, but hey...we learn something every day :)
Gotta burst down Niru I think @spring gyro
Else he will shred through your team with Isabella.
@strong raptor don't use talene with eironn, the synergies in the eironn comp will do far more than she can
Hm. Usually I use standard Eirionn comp, but when something goes wrong, I just use Talene instead of someone and it works
In the team you suggested no one even survived till ult so I made a little adjustment @stuck trellis
Oh u beat it, I just found my screenshot for that stage lol
I've gotten quite stuck with these heroes and my current team is rowan, hendrik, lucius, rosaline and Belinda. Feels like I could improve alot to actually make way in the campaign and other such stuff faste
You need a better carry.
Ascend Saveas or Mirael to L+ (whichever comes faster)
Start working on the heroes mentioned in the pins #classic-questions
You are level capped at 100 and that needs to change :)
@muted talon
Can I have some help please 😦
Any advice?
Try switching Shem and Lucius to start with @rigid oar
Also Shem will silence Vedan.
Personally Id use Rosaline over Nemora.You have enough sustain with Luc/Rowan and you are playing an ult based carry.
@past urchin thank you for your answer I had that comp before but lucius is dying too fast :/
You could also try Rowan up front.
He probably wont ult anyway as Silvina or whatever her name will melt him.
Might buy Luc enough time to get his shield.
hmm makes sense silvina is jumping on tasi and its a coin flip if she lives
Oh she jumps Tasi...I thought she wiuld go on Rowan.
Try this maybe:
Luc
tasi
Rowan
shem
Rosa
I think Tasi wont die before she blinks and Luc will take over.
By that time he should have his shield up.
If he lives long enough to ult, you probably won.
Ugh...then I dont know:/
Maybe someone more experienced will show up.
I swapped some gear around now silvina is jumping on rosa rip
I hate Niru and Vedan, how can I deal with them better?
yeah I'm prob gonna have to wait to ascend saveas to have a chance at beating silvina
I just got a rare+ saveas so that helps
niru you usually just have to overpower which means more levels vedan i haven't faced in a while though so i cant remember
I hate Brutus the most.
Yeah I've heard he falls off late,but until then an overleved, overascended Brutus is s nightmare.
What should I be working now on my line up?
Brutus does kinda come back in to the meta in the lategame a little bit in multibattles @past urchin
@lone bough Do a level reset for all heroes not in your top 5. Use the resonating crystal to level the other heroes.
what lineup should I be using after that ? @coral pier
@lone bough Wukong, saurus, mirael,rowan, arden should be good enough
any specific order? @coral pier
The order I said them in is good
yeah i hate brutus @past urchin but it can usually get down to the 1 hp shield quickly, rn it's silvina that's really bugging me
Like so @coral pier ?
Wukong instead of hogan
I've missclicked, sorry 😛
saurus is good? i have them
@raw rune Saurus is really good
worth putting in crystal then?
Yeah
I'm getting destroyed still on that stage @coral pier
these are current levels
still getting deleted xD @coral pier
Is this even possible right now for me?
hm ascended mirael that sounds scary
isabella is also annoying but I'm not anywhere near there so it may be possible
tips?
@lone bough Swap positions around
alright i try
This stage is so fking annoying.. can I finish this only with Merc?
@brazen path Gwyneth
@Laku thank you, should I also swap positions or keep everything line that then?
@mint viper Your rowan isn’t healing hogan or arden, they are too far. Move rowan to middle of back row
@coral pier If I move Rowan, Lucius doesn't get skill off and everyone in my team just dies so much faster
@brazen path Yeah swap them around, see what feels best
Alright👍
Can I have some help for this one 😅
Then Mirael goes top?
Yes
@coral pier Any tips regarding line-up or on whom i should invest?
@rigid oar Try different positions, try Tasi instead of Fawkes. You also might need to just power up a bit.
thank you for your answer @coral pier I tried wilders too but they also die pretty fast, should I go for shem or the others?
also power wise where do I want to be approx?
oof that's a huge cpr difference
@rigid oar Shemira is a safe option for a carry. Ideally you want to be powercapped, which means enemies are a little over 3 times your power. You won’t reach that with shemira, but you are in a pretty good spot considering you are in early game.
by power what do you mean?
@raw rune Like if your team has 100k combat rating, your enemies should have over 300k combat rating. This is very hard to achieve tho and to consistently hit it you need a really good comp.
Wait really? I thought you wanted to be as close as possible say if you have 100k and them around 200k
For most early game players you won’t be able to do better than maybe 2x power
oh jesus i cant even imagine being at 2x power and doing well, i have a long way to go then lol
tbf nothing is higher than elite+ yet
I am so confused I am sorry I think I am missing something 😅
@rigid oar Of course you want to be in as high of a stage as possible. Higher stage=more afk rewards
Pushing as much as possible at all times will have a cumulative effect and eventually you will be multiple chapters ahead of more casual players who started at the same time
i started 6 days ago and halfway through chapter 8
it has been really inconsistent in most battles
@coral pier thanks.. I was able to finish it still with Rowan top and Mirael mid along with Fawkes to imprison that Mirael
wow that damage
@mint viper gz
Rowan mid somehow got Bursted from unknown sources lol
Rowan cart will still stay so that is no issue
either the hypogean or isabella probably
i know one of them uses the purple beam to oneshot you
Estrilda running through also sometimes likes to oneshot backline
wow this just shows how little I've played lol
didn't think estrilda was capable of that
Estrilda is a pain with big level differences
I'll keep that in mind
Once i ascend saveas to l and l+ will progress become a lot easier?
Can't wait to get another copy of Daimon to get him to Mythic.. Mirael has served her purpose.. idk if she'll be able to carry next chapter
@coral pier thanks for your answer so I guess I am struggling to push through right now /: I am also stuck at tower etc
Levelling for you should be fast so you will be unstuck in no time
Wu kong started dying first stuck can't progress anymore , should i wait and put Belinda 120 or can I replace him with anything else ?
I thought I was supposed to level shem first then the rest when she gets as high as she can get @coral pier
Yeah shem first
I can get 2 levels a day not sure if that will make a huge difference since everyone else is dying so fast
I am newbie i play on 1 week this day i get Belinda want to ask how this formation
read pins in #classic-questions
Ok
I did u.u I just dont know what to do right now since I can level my shem 1-2 times a day and rest dies very fast and she depends on her ult etc
Can anyone help me with a decent/good line up with the hero's I have ?
nice pulls 😮
@ivory sandal
- Lvl up only 5 heroes at a time so you don't waste diamonds for resetting.
- It's really not advisable leveling Ascended-tier heroes to L without enough copies to go to L+. That Shem+Brutus+Belinda might be stuck there for a very long time.
- Overlevel your carry above the rest, some 20-40ish higher.
- Have you tried Daimon as carry? I never tried him personally but some say he does well as long as he is overleveled.
Heyo, I'm stuck on 8-12 and I've been trying different comps but they all get beat. Any teams you guys recommend?
can anyone help me i just started today and used everycode that i found )
like many people said you can check the guides at questions
Im at 23 but i think im using a little weird lineup, any recommends? 
Any advice on lineup, stuck 14-8
@tender ridge I would most definitly try and do eironn + lyca + tasi + rowan + saf/daimon/ferael rn
@mild geyser I’m trying to pull Lyca but its not coming lol i can still move on but not sure what will be happen after the 23
Somebody please help me
if u cant interuppt the suck I would have eironn drag albedo lucius and fawkes
What does those words mean
keep you carries away from cc
ye basically
What does that mean
go @mild geyser 😅
cc stands for crowd control. Basically anything that can interrupt ur carry from doing their thing. Eironn suck, arden roots, tasi sleep nemora charm etc
So what do I do then?
re arrange your line up
eironn sucks the people in front of him in like a triangle sorry for bad drawing
im guessing this is labyrinth
Yeah hard mode
relic choices also plays a big role
Yes I understand that
i would do
fawkes
luc
albedo
bel
ainz
if eiron still outdmges you, try to slot in arden and hope for rng he roots eirron
Arden where
I still have some time left to do this so I can try to switch him out for another mercenary
@stiff siren
Who will Fawkes put in a coffin on that enemy comp? @pale kettle
I don’t know
try and do the pause reset technique
i am full atm, try the #mercenary channel
@pale kettle find a good guild and theyll have plenty of mercs for u
any help? i’m bad
Reset everything, make Mirael your best
I managed to push 2 chapters with Belinda, but Ch. 12 is pretty slow...
I'd be grateful for any pointers :)
you can possibly athalia the saveas mirael lucius front arden the vedan
dont make heroes L without having copies for L+ please.
you spread your fodder too much try to not do that anymore
Need some help over here...
but if you L too many heroes without having enough copies for L+, you are wasting fodder.
I don't quite get it, what's "fodder"?
basic blue cards
I don't quite get it, what's "fodder"?
@native wave rare and rare + heroes
Is your Belinda getting rekt?
How do I manage fodder properly in that case?
@raw niche Is your Belinda getting rekt?
@raw niche Is your Belinda getting rekt?
@native wave yes by silvina
Get Nara to grab her
I always do that :x
Naras weak tho. I'll try
Yeah just to buy enough time in order for "The Beam" to fire
@pale kettle ye
Lol nara dies in 2 non crits
F Belinda still gets rekt
@mild geyser and lucius?
ye theyre gonna fall off
Even tho silvina doesnt crit belle, she still gets silenced by shemira and she's unable to do anything
Cursed stage
Lol try to interrupt Shemira
I tried that with Cecilia
Isabelle oneshots others
My best bet is interrupted Isabelle
But then silvina has free kill on bellinds
Even though she's like last one standing
If bellinda manages to ult
@pale kettle find a good guild and theyll have plenty of mercs for u
@mild geyser I already have one
And it’s bad, plenty of inactive low levels
find a better one then
But I’m the leader
Please help 15-40
Start Pippa with select pulls, or 2 copies to finish Satrana, or gaze for Mehira who's L+ with my 20k gems
Brutus, Belinda, Nemora, Rowan, Lucius maybe? 🤔 @cursive shoal
Does anyone here have 31-15 solution?
#lineup-help message Please?
I'm on 17-25 right now, and I've been heavily leaning on Baden. I can ascend him once I get one more R, but I've been kinda trudging lately. I've been running Lucius to shield clones and the team, Raine to debuff the enemies for the clones, Estrilda to buff the clones, and typically either Rosaline for support, Saveas for extra damage or type advantage, Nemora for heals (But at this juncture she just dies way too easily to be viable.) I've wanted to make a team with Satrana, Numisu, and maybe Saveas but it's hard being this far invested. Any advice? (Returning player, would appreciate the help.)
(Also I managed to ascend Baden last night, so he's silver 1.
@native wave stop ascending many heroes to L... You should ascend heroes from E+ to L only if you have enough copies to ascend them directly from E+ to L+... And do not ascend many different heroes now. You should focus on getting 5 mythic, then 5 mythic+, then 5 ascended heroes... You have 10 L/L+ heroes now and this is not an optimal way to progress.
Edit: @inner quiver same suggestion.
Hm what do I do?
Any suggestions? Currently using the first 5
@native wave Stop ascending many different heroes to L... Focus on getting 5 mythic heroes, then 5 mythic+, then 5 ascended heroes... You have L+ Belinda, Nemora and Ferael, you can try to ascend them to M, for example.
But I can't ascend them rn
Also how do I revert the tiers? Any ways or... it's permanent?
I know you can't ascend them right now
I just said to focus on getting 5 mythics instead of getting more legendaries
@torn stag Wu will start to fall off soon so you should be preparing for another carry, ideally Saveas or Mirael, until 160ish, where either Shem or Belinda (or Daimon if you get copies of him) will take over.
@warm swan that's what I figured with Wu I'll build up Saveas and Belinda to take over.. I was thinking about putting Rosaline in my lineup but I'm not sure where too
Brutus, Belinda, Nemora, Rowan, Lucius maybe? 🤔 @cursive shoal
@uncut widget didn’t work 😭😭
That's the question here ._.
@native wave Belinda, Nemora, Ferael and whatever you put on L+ first... Just try to get 5 ascended heroes asap and stop ascending multiple heroes to L... That's how you progress faster on early-mid game.
This is a pretty decent tierlist for wishlist priority: https://old.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/joi9c9/wishlist_v15004/
So, I'll have to get 5 M to be able to get past this chapter?
If you put Rosa, then you can go Rosa+Mirael because their combo is actually good. Need some tanks up front though, so a Hogan (then Lucius)
So, I'll have to get 5 M to be able to get past this chapter?
@native wave no
@warm swan yeah I was thinking mirael instead cause I can get a class bonus with her over saveus
What kind of team can I build rn though?
Just remember to overlevel your carry above the rest. And level only 5 heroes at a time. And don't rush Ascended-tier heroes to L. GL! @torn stag
@warm swan thanks!
@native wave I'm not sure with your hero pool because they are sort of all over the place. Well you got Lucius and Hendrick as tanks so there's your frontline. Belinda as carry? Then Arden/Nem/Tasi? Nara and Athalia can be switched depending on enemy comp if you want somebody to be solo-ed
🤔
Tanks: Hendrick and Lucius
DPS: Belinda
That's 3
How do I put 6?
Lucius, Hendrick, Belinda, Arden, Nemora, Tasi
Oh my bad. Those Wilders should be / instead of ,
I need some help
So, I need to get Arden as a crystalee?
What sould i do. My lineup is izold ulmus front, nemora, mirael, pippa..
Arden is good with his cc, esp when you encounter Vedan on some stages.
Whats the best comp I can do with these for chapter 7
of course without albedo and ainz
Talene, Hogan, Saveas, Mirael, Nemora ig?
everyone has athalia smh
ok thx but like saveas E+ doesnt do a lot of damage doe
well okk I try it later thanks again
Shemira is not really your go-to dps pre-160
ohh ok I thought it was good bc she helped me through the first few chapters
what about Lucretia?
Yeah she's good, only if you don't have any better dps
Hypogeans and Celestials is for late game tbh
Talene is immortal though :x
got u👌
Very lucky to have her
true shes busted
so I try to get mirael to 120 now
Yeah
and should I make her legendary or idk what the yellow is called
Legendary and no
dont L if u cant L+
☝🏻
@native wave stop ascending many heroes to L... You should ascend heroes from E+ to L only if you have enough copies to ascend them directly from E+ to L+... And do not ascend many different heroes now. You should focus on getting 5 mythic, then 5 mythic+, then 5 ascended heroes... You have 10 L/L+ heroes now and this is not an optimal way to progress.
Edit: @inner quiver same suggestion.
@uncut widget Thank you! Noted.
I'm a returning player so I did those L before 
Big regret
I kinda just L'd everyone I could to get base level up, trying to get more EXP and get my team to 180.