Any suggestions on team comp for progressing through chapter 9? This team did great in 8, but stuck early in 9. Do I just need more levels?
#lineup-help
shrewd meadow
stuck trellis
now smash that stage 
astral pike
I meant to show my version of that screenshot
I had almost the exact same dmg from errion and saf and still lost
This is what they keep doing to me
stuck trellis
yeah baden tasi stages are always going to be big rng fests 
also the damage numbers from saf and eironn are heavily going to depend on how many clones baden gets out, so it can vary
sometimes i win with like 30m from saf, other times its like 80m
dawn tide
I cant get enough fodder for mirael elite+, so what should I use to continue the campaign in the meantime?
stuck trellis
@dawn tide keep using wukong, by the time you get your crystal to lvl 80 you will probably have the fodder for mirael
astral pike
Auyyy I got it!
stuck trellis
nice 
dawn tide
@stuck trellis wdym crystal to lvl 80
stuck trellis
resonating crystal
when ur 5 units are minimum lvl 80 then your crystal level is 80
dawn tide
Oh I can get them all to lvl 80 rn.
stuck trellis
@astral pike brace yourself for 30-12, that stage made me cry
astral pike
I got it first try >.>
dawn tide
I was just holding my exp and gold for something. But if I should get them all to lvl 80, I can do it
stuck trellis
u hacker @astral pike 
@dawn tide yeah do that
astral pike
Lmaoooo I get stuck on weird stages
dawn tide
Sneaky using edit to hack past slow mode :p
stuck trellis
i went from 302 crystal to 307 on that stage
mild geyser
Any ideas? Wanna beat chapter 22
stuck trellis
@mild geyser
daimon
rowan
numisu
lyca
nara
maybe nara out for tasi if tasi banishes arden?
mild geyser
Thanks I’ll try it
Is it possible for Warek to escape banish? Cuz tasi isn’t being flinched but she doesn’t banish either
astral pike
@stuck trellis at any point did you get stuck for fodder? I have soooo many heroes ready for A but no food
stuck trellis
tasi banishes warek there? 
thought it would be lyca or arden for sure
mild geyser
i dont see tasi banishing anyone
stuck trellis
@astral pike i always need fodder.. 
astral pike
Haha Ight
visual cape
So I’m about half way through chapter 10, and am getting stuck on almost every level. And I don’t have a stable team comp. who should I use?
restive bolt
pale kettle
Last stage. I really wanna complete this one for them faction scrolls.
Can someone please help me?
boreal breach
@pale kettle does the person is slot 4 do much? i think using rowan or the phenoix lady would be better
pale kettle
Weird stage to be stuck at but here we are...any advice?
boreal breach
@pale kettle how many times have you ran it the comp looks good like one stage took me 50 gos with the same team over and over sometime you just need that like, if think it could help you can put the sheep instead of the elf guy
pale kettle
@pale kettle does the person is slot 4 do much? i think using rowan or the phenoix lady would be better
@boreal breach
Talene doesn't do much either, and my rowan is like E+
boreal breach
@pale kettle I'm at stage 18 and my rowan is e+ and he is still being used
pale kettle
@pale kettle how many times have you ran it the comp looks good like one stage took me 50 gos with the same team over and over sometime you just need that like, if think it could help you can put the sheep instead of the elf guy
@boreal breach
About 8 tries, I'd say
RNG could make or break the stage ngl
Really? Interesting. I might have to try him then @boreal breach
boreal breach
@pale kettle yeah, this is the team i use, i swap the pink haired one for the coffin guy at times
i have been stuck on this stage for like 2 days its really annoying
high pivot
Any lineups appreciated 😤
stuck trellis
@high pivot who does tasi banish
high pivot
I believe shem, i also get arthur in 7 days
pale kettle
@boreal breach you have albedo tho, a much higher Rosa than I do and an Ascended
stuck trellis
@high pivot probably something like
gwyn
rowan
lyca
brutus
tasi
or maybe
gwyn
rowan
daimon
lyca
tasi/brutus
high pivot
I haven't tried the first comp but i've tried the second comp
stuck trellis
tbh i dont think daimon is worth using rn since u dont have his 20
u just need diamon 20 and fera now and youre set 
raw rune
saveas isn't working
warm girder
Any ideas how to pass this ? I can still borrow Albedo/Ainz
high pivot
im at +17 for daimon atm and ferael was my next goto
warm girder
nvm..nemora rng just won me this fight lol
merry holly
Can anyone help me out
fading cipher
Anyone have alternative 32-32-3 lineups other than thoran?
pale kettle
@merry holly t'amène instead of wu Kong? And maybe add the twins? I'm not sure at all but that's what I would have tried
Talene* sorry
wintry dune
warm girder
Try leveling belinda to 140 instead of nemora and go with front: Lucius Belinda, Back Talene, Nemora, Wu
wintry dune
Has someone a suggestion
warm girder
@merry holly
warm girder
Maybe front: Lucius Rosa Back: Eironn, Safiya, Daimon will work for you @wintry dune
warm girder
you can try to swap out rosa for albedo/estrilda
or do estrilda lvl 140 and put all your exp on eironn
warm girder
ah nvm i just saw my bad on this
wintry dune
Nah can't pass the stage think I have to lvl up a bit. But thanks for the help
pale kettle
Sorry that I'm asking again but can you help me I think I tried pretty much everything and I know that it's possible to win with only these heroes but I can't find the right team and lineup
vocal sluice
soft yoke
What do?
pale kettle
Thank you so much! I was really having a bad time because of this last one! 😊
deep iris
coral pier
@spring gyro Levels are a bit spread out, maybe try resetting mirael to 100 and getting saveas up as much as possible
spring gyro
Alright, ill try that.
My levels are spread out bwcause everything besodes saveas is at max
coral pier
understandable
spring gyro
Thank you, it got me past that stage.
hot axle
Hey guys I'm getting to a stage were I have to swap out saveas soon and want some advice on team comps for pve and pvp. Only got one copy of shemira so wondering what I should do for next team?
At stage 14-8 at the moment
eternal totem
@small moth
Ferael
-Shem
Rosa
-Rowan
Fawkes/Lyca
small moth
@eternal totem who should I gear the most between rosa/rowan and fawkes or lyca/ferael. also which artifacts. actually pretty hard level ^^
eternal totem
Rowan and whoever is taking more hits. Also:
Fera - eye
Shem - blade
Rosa - eye/call
Rowan - the one that gives dodge or call
Lyca/Faskes - eye
velvet belfry
https://i.imgur.com/gNro12J.png
https://i.imgur.com/phS7XRz.png
any suggestions? or should i just wait out more ascensions
buoyant jasper
Need help building a team. I stopped playing a year ago and I read that Shemira is not that good anymore. I'm at 23-2
small moth
@eternal totem in both cases, can't even get 2 casts :/
eternal totem
Just do retries for the dodges. Maybe lucius instead of lyca/fawkes
noble vault
anyone got 32-19 ss? i cant crack this one
small moth
@eternal totem got'em. Ty
spare girder
@velvet belfry
Tidus
Albedo
Rowan/Nemora
Lucius/Nakoruru
Ainz (or Shemira; not sure whose single ult is more deadly)
To be honest you lack a lot of CC in your roaster so I just hope Tidus will CC Shemira and Ferael with the initial stun so Ainz can ult and you win basically.
stone coral
Keep or reroll? Considering with redemption-codes we get like 60+ free pulls
velvet belfry
@spare girder thanks a lot, will give it a shot. yeah, im lacking CC. i have E+ Numisu and Ferael, and E Eironn, Tasi but rly nothing else :/ just gonna have to hope for better pulls down the line
spare girder
Keep or reroll? Considering with redemption-codes we get like 60+ free pulls
@stone coral
Is this your only account?
stone coral
@spare girder No, just rerolling on the side. But I only have 3 others, and 2 of them I sorta play. Trying to get a good main account.
gray schooner
@stone coral beware that re-rolling gives minimal gain past maybe the first week, due to how reliant this game is on duplicates and fodder
spare girder
To be honest not so much of a fan of rerolling in this game because your initial luck doesn't mean too much going doing the line as far as how good your account could get so I can't say for sure.
fiery crescent
What I do
gray schooner
you also get a ton of stuff early due to redemption codes which you want to claim asap
spare girder
@gray schooner where does Silvina go? And can Hogan even take those hits in that position?
gray schooner
@spare girder silvina pesters rowan, and he can't really but he tends to just die no matter where I place him
ocean lagoon
Help pls
gray schooner
honestly at this point I think I might have been abnormally lucky for the past few missions because a 30h wall at ch10 seems wrong
velvet belfry
nah, it can happen
spare girder
@spare girder silvina pesters rowan, and he can't really but he tends to just die no matter where I place him
@gray schooner
Yeah I don't think you can push that stage for now without a merc at least.
queen path
Still hardstuck, would love a hand
gray schooner
the only major problem is vedan I think, I can get the rest with mirael rng
velvet belfry
you could try charming vedan with nemora
gray schooner
how does charm work exactly? targeting that is
spare girder
the only major problem is vedan I think, I can get the rest with mirael rng
@gray schooner
Yeah and you're using a lot of LB heroes so he will rip them to shreds.
how does charm work exactly? targeting that is
@gray schooner
RNG, but if you put her in position 3 she has higher chances of charming him.
velvet belfry
other rng ideas: distracting him with numisu totem? my solution for earlygame vedan was tasi ult so im not sure how succesful either strat would be. nemora is really nice for GB countering though
supple pulsar
generally its opposite, but you have a chance of charming the guy in front as well
brazen path
Can somebody help me with 6-32 or even what heroes I should use in General? (Pics following because of slow mode)
velvet belfry
@brazen path ascend a saveas anywhere from E to L+ (for me an E Saveas worked) at level 100 with as good gear as possible, position them so they kill Golus, then you win
well thats simplified but killing golus is always the key, since he will distract your team by staying alive forever
velvet belfry
the shemira/rosa double ult combo will probably carry you a fair amount lol
brazen path
Well it doesnt anymore xD
ocean lagoon
Help pls
velvet belfry
its hard to tell from your pool. @brazen path imo mirael at L+ 160 + shem/rosa/ezizh until you start ascending more champs like your ezizh, shem, rosa, eironn, athalia, gwyn and tasi.
you can get ezizh and shem from the stores so you can focus on getting their copies
you never know how rng will affect your account but generally shemira, mirael, ezizh, athalia and wu kong will be good for quite some time
brazen path
Alright thankyou for your help, one more question, what exactly means ascending? XD
velvet belfry
its when you move a champ from elite to elite + to legendary and so on and so forth
brazen path
Ohh okay thank you xD
crystal peak
Help me beat this please
velvet belfry
can your rowan survive the initial silvina attack?
crystal peak
For a little only
supple locust
or for which hero should i go for to beat my stage? im really desperate :(
narrow raptor
@ember bay first 5 not ainz
ember bay
wait thats my actual comp
narrow raptor
you are still early
try lots of thing but dont ascend like maniac if you dont have for legy +
median sluice
Hey, stuck at 16-20. Any lineup suggestions?
daring marlin
@faint current who should the other characters be alongside arden?
faint current
Idk but 141 Arden is a huge power jump from 140 and one of the most powerful supports in the game at that point. @daring marlin
ripe crane
Hello can you guys help me out? I wanna change my lineup and would like some feedback.
I would choose these heroes but idk who to pick as 5th. I really like Lucretia but I heard you should have 3 supports...
terse mountain
You should probably level up your fodder heroes first
tawdry jungle
Need help too. I don’t know on which main team I should focus?
mild geyser
@tawdry jungle read pins in #classic-questions
tawdry jungle
@mild geyser Oh started to read and find it very helpful, thx!
median sluice
I'm stuck on 16-20. Any help or suggestions?
velvet belfry
@median sluice can you screenshot the level for me? my inclination is to say lucius brutus front, shemira nemora rowan back just from your team. also, you shouldnt have so many Legendaries, thats alot of wasted fodder
median sluice
@velvet belfry yeah I learned that a little too late.
young spruce
Ok big questio i have aronn and he can go to mythic sacrificing nemora or nemora to nythic sacrificing aronn im at 12-1 stafe
velvet belfry
dont sacrifice nemora
median sluice
mild geyser
dont use ascended tier heroes as fodder and dont L if u cant L+
young spruce
What should ido?
velvet belfry
@median sluice try
Shemira
Lucius
Nemora
Brutus
Rowan
its gonna depend on who Silvina targets I think
median sluice
Okay thanks. I'll try that
velvet belfry
@young spruce keep saving up and ascending blue wilder fodder and depending on who you use more use that to ascend one of them to Mythic
median sluice
@velvet belfry sorry to bother you, but Lucius dies within the first second of battle, which means I dont get his ultimate to give me some breathing room. Ideas?
velvet belfry
@median sluice does he die quick regardless of whether hes in front of Niru or Grezhul?
median sluice
Hold on let me check
Not as quick in front of grezhul but still before he can pop his ult
brave wagon
velvet belfry
you can try Lyca instead of Rowan and see if the Haste is enough to get him to ult in time
velvet belfry
yeah he probably is using Rowans potions
brave wagon
help plz, how do I even make a daimon comp
velvet belfry
@median sluice is lucius dying because of isabella shooting him?
brave wagon
considering I can't use rowan, tasi, lyca, mehira, twins, saurus, eironn
median sluice
Maybe? I just equipped duras call to see if that'll help him get his ult quicker and still have access to the potions
velvet belfry
if isabella is nuking lucius (i had this problem in those chapters) you can try athalia or eironn as a lockdown option. but idk if isabella is your problem
median sluice
I dont think she is
velvet belfry
well if the difference between a win is a lucius ult, you can probably look towards ascending lucius or rowan so they can tank better
probably the biggest issue is the all GB comp
median sluice
Yeah I've been meaning to ascend rowan but I haven't been getting any copies of him. Also yeah, the all gb is hard to deal with
velvet belfry
one other idea i can think of is to get yourself an L+ 160 Arden @median sluice he can work very well in ch 16
velvet belfry
he'll be easier to build at least
median sluice
Should I risk stargazing for rowan? Or should I stargaze for lucius?
velvet belfry
i think some players push chapter 16 with e+ or even e Arden
nahhhh i would stargaze either Talene or Twins
velvet belfry
later on youll unlock hero choice which im doing for rowan rn 😛
median sluice
Oh? Whens that
velvet belfry
when you get your first ascended tier hero
median sluice
Oh bet
cinder cargo
Hello is this a good team for campaign?
graceful coral
I'm never winning this aight?
haughty furnace
HELP ME PLS
median sluice
HELL YEAH I DID IT! IT TOOK A LOT OF MESSING AROUND WITH DURA ARTIFACTS AND AN AVUSE OF ORTHOS BUT I DID IT!
wicked wharf
First wall I've hit in 2 chapters. Probably time for more levels, I've tried so many combos
fiery crescent
Bruh I’ve asked for help in this chat like 8 times and no one has even responded smh
oak spruce
Anything I can do on this stage with the heroes I have? Tried many different formations and nothing works.
haughty furnace
@fiery crescent DUDE SAME PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO HELP U WITH LINEUP BUT THERER LIKE THEY CAN DO IT BY THEM SELF WE NEED HELP MY GOD
@oak spruce screen shot your light bears
oak spruce
haughty furnace
Swap the bow girl for Rowan the put Rowan in back top then tasi in back mid and swap wu Kong for the kinight guy see if that works
Swap there places
oak spruce
You mean switch hogan and wu kong's places?
ebon root
I would switch nemora with rowan
oak spruce
Tried it and I did a bit better than before but my heroes are still dying before the can get their ultimates off. Kaz is a real pain. Maybe I just need to wait for more afk exp
ebon root
Nemora and rowan are both healers
oak spruce
Ok i'll try that
ebon root
Rowan should be middle if I read it correctly so everyone can use the potions
ebon root
Not saying not to trust you, was just putting my opinion
haughty furnace
Well I didn’t even know Rowan was a healer
I also need help I have been stuck on the same lvl for 3 days know and no one ever answers
ebon root
Want to keep lyca the bow girl she gives haste
haughty furnace
So don’t take out anyone?
raw rune
how to beat this? niru is so hard to kill and they can't be rooted or stopped by tasi
ebon root
Take out the goat girl for rowan
raw rune
goat girl?
ebon root
Put rowan in center back
oak spruce
Replacing nemora with rowan and no luck
haughty furnace
So namora
raw rune
oh you meant them
haughty furnace
Oh
haughty furnace
But i need daimon so bad
ebon root
Don't think anyone is one to help you, maybe you can help us
languid timber
Halp plz
haughty furnace
This is mine but still don’t know anything about line ups
@potent bay maybe u should help us
Your on ch 16 right
potent bay
I’m a noob guys
pale kettle
Any suggestions?
languid timber
Nvm
haughty furnace
@pale kettle or u can help us
ebon root
@haughty furnace who is you tank
haughty furnace
Grez I quess
ebon root
You have the lucius
languid timber
I think I went to wrong chat
haughty furnace
No
languid timber
Yep
haughty furnace
This is line up help
languid timber
I think this is argument chat now
ebon root
Lol
haughty furnace
How
languid timber
Seeya I’ll look up how to make lineups on yt instead
left hound
So im stuck at this campain stage and my team just dies so quick and idk what to do other than just waiting and leveling my heroes later
haughty furnace
But he’s a elite he will die fast against mythics and the niru will kill hi@ very fast
Him so he won’t do any good
haughty furnace
I’m on ch 10 I’m trying to finish as fast as I can but no that is high at like end game doesn’t help
That’s not good for me
Shemira 100% should be on that dude for carries
ebon root
Well that is I guess for early game shemira is 160 level +
humble rock
Are any of u guys helping ppl rn knowledgeable with good teams?
ebon root
I'm not
humble rock
Hm
high pivot
@ebon root what do you need?
ebon root
@high pivot It's been working ok, looking for suggestions
Should I go lyca tasi and arden
warm swan
How much dmg can Gwyn put out in that line-up?
ebon root
Not sure
warm swan
Imo go with one carry/dps. You have Rosa, Rosa+Shem/Belinda or Rosa+Mirael early is great, just need a proper tank to hold the front.
warm swan
Gwyn is def not holding a javelin. 
warm swan
Past 100-120, I'd go Hogan+Brutus front. Rosa+Mira back. Switch empty slot for whichever you need depending on enemy comp. CC, haste, etc
ebon root
Ok, so take out safiya for rosa?
warm swan
Like I said, depends on your need or your opponent. You can go Rosa+Mira+Saf at back just so you get faster ult. Take out Shem for now, she starts to shine past 160+
rotund hare
Help with this stage?! I’m trying to clear the chapter
warm swan
Yeah Brutus is good for stalling because of his invincibility. Gz. Keep pushing
fiery socket
I am having so much trouble with this. Any ideas on how to actually beat this?
mild geyser
maybe replace ainz with belinda and replace wukong with nemora and charm saveas
terse lintel
Think nemora needs to be in that one if I remember right
fickle loom
@fiery socket overlevel your carry compared to others. drop the 4 damage setup and use more supports. in your current situation drop daimon and wu kong for nemora and pippa (or rosaline).
flint marlin
is it cool to use lucretia as early tanker? best one i have is hogan from the tank early tier list
terse lintel
@pale kettle one sec and I'll post my completion team
fiery crescent
Who’s good support hero’s
terse lintel
@pale kettle try that just won with it
Swap ferael for lyca . Won it for me
@pale kettle
@pale kettle archer on bottom for pink hair girl
bitter rose
I normally don't ask for help. But is this stage even possible without a merc with what I have?
spare cloud
Ok boys how am i gonna lose this one
hallow forge
Anyone can help me build a line up? Pretty new on the game
I’m trying to use a graveborn setup, but i can change it
warm swan
@bitter rose Eironn mid not cutting it?
bitter rose
He takes way too much damage. Only his boots and weapon are T1.
And it's the only stones I got.
flint marlin
Does that look right? Aside from the levels
other than lucretia, i have hogan in case im not supposed to level luc now
terse lintel
@hallow forge
mild geyser
@flint marlin looks fine idk how luc does early game but u probably would replace her with hogan and if u choose saveas carry rosa wont do u much good
pale kettle
Who should I run and soul fuse
flint marlin
i will do carry mirael
hallow forge
@hallow forge
@terse lintel thanks
terse lintel
@pale kettle Don't ascend heros unless you can make them legendary+
Also would go with brutus, belinda, rosalyn, rowan, and hogan until you can fix things
@pale kettle
mild geyser
@flint marlin seems fine then. Note u might have to move mirael away from mid or rowan away from mid depending on the stage
flint marlin
roger! in case of mirael, should i not use her on front then?
fickle loom
early game lucretia is pretty trash compared to wu kong but still slightly better than most others by a little lol
terse lintel
If overleveled yes, elsewise behing your strongest tank to stall @flint marlin
hallow forge
Shemira isn’t good to level up?
flint marlin
im following the idea of having the carry 20 levels above
wait, were talking about 2 frontal units right? one being tanker and second being main carry?
terse lintel
I mean overleveled compared to your opponents
@flint marlin for now focus on building up fodder like hogan and mirael since you have rosalyn
spare cloud
I mean i get my levels lower but other than try all i can do is wait for exp anything i can do now?
bold vector
Im kinda stuck, kaz deletes my backline while the necro dude just heals nonstop
terse lintel
@spare cloud you got rowan and saveas, replace luc with hogan and ainz with saveas but have saveas switch places with rowan and swap out lyca for arden
dusky hazel
So I've tried the lyca instead of talene and this just has been working better for me
I know not everyone has ascended talene but if so she's great to use instead of lyca in my experience
terse lintel
@bold vector swap wu kong for rowan and trade eiron to back middle with lyca in front
bold vector
That made it worse
terse lintel
@bold vector who else are your heros, need a better carry over wu kong
spare cloud
@terse lintel This? my carriers not on the team ainz/mirael
dusky hazel
@spare cloud show us all of your heros sweetie
terse lintel
@spare cloud saveas works without rosalyn but Mirael needs rosa
dusky hazel
Saveas isn't that great at level 80
terse lintel
Yeah he would need to be a higher level just like all other carries
spare cloud
dusky hazel
Get mirael and pump her to max. Get rosa on your crystal
bold vector
@terse lintel
dusky hazel
Also daimon is super strong as well
spare cloud
my exp is spent right now but im trying to max her
terse lintel
@spare cloud she should be fine more or less, have
Mirael
lucius
Rowan
Hogan
Arden
spare cloud
here is my crystal
mild geyser
Any ideas?
terse lintel
Replace lucretia for rosalyn
dusky hazel
So if you want to push I think you should nix lucretia at the moment and put rosaline
spare cloud
sounds like the plan thanks guys 24 hr wait sucks lol cant wait to have alot of slots
dusky hazel
@mild geyser don't let oden get pulled by nara. Go back in time and don't ascend nara yet (joking)
mild geyser
I didnt know who else to sack so I chose oden
dusky hazel
@spare cloud I just pay the diamonds. It takes almost no time
Oden is your primary win condition after daimon. His CC is valuable and denying ultimates as well.
mild geyser
He’s level 1
dusky hazel
There's literally no other reason to run oden, so he's not worth saccing.
neon nova
@mild geyser if you put your nara against enemies who’s grab first?
dusky hazel
Then make him not level 1. Lol
terse lintel
@bold vector
Id suggest the same looks like you have mirael and rosalyn your not using and those or saveas would be next carry after level 100 along with hogan, arden, and rowan or lyca
mild geyser
No slots. Nara against Nara? If so mine grabs first
neon nova
Ye who grabs first?
mild geyser
Mine
dusky hazel
Free up slots. I'm sure you have characters you don't actually need on your crystal. Probably maulers.
neon nova
Ideally you want a Thoran against nara for his curse
mild geyser
I need them to push mauler tower tho
dusky hazel
Maybe even fodder characters you can nix. Otherwise you're going to have a hard time winning with just 4 characters.
mild geyser
Ye I guess I can sack my arden
dusky hazel
Definitely lol
mild geyser
Oden or thoran?
neon nova
Thoran
dusky hazel
Also thoran is more useful than grez, so you can make that call, but his curse is valuable to take out an enemy quickly.
mild geyser
I had grez for tr
neon nova
Ye it’ll give daimon the initial start he needs
dusky hazel
Show us your crystal
terse lintel
😱
mild geyser
Thanks it worked with thoran. Still need my crystal?
spare cloud
@terse lintel well put rosaline on the crystal should i change that team any?
dusky hazel
Yes
neon nova
Np
terse lintel
@spare cloud she should be fine more or less, have
Miraellucius
Rowan
Hogan
Arden
@terse lintel
mild geyser
Wait was the yes for me
terse lintel
@spare cloud make sure mirael is highest leveled if possible cause you're basically aiming for this.
spare cloud
yup thats what im doing just got saveas instead of the spider chick
dusky hazel
Well as far as the heros you have to upgrade it's fine. I think I would have delayed ascending estrilda and totem dude
But you know, what can ya do. Seems like you've got the heros you need
mild geyser
Yea I just got 8 copies of them the fastest
dusky hazel
I have had 8 nara copies for months. I think I'll finally do her after izold
terse lintel
Shouldn't keep a lady waiting
dusky hazel
Screw gravity
terse lintel
Jelly of the izold, yet to get a single copy
dusky hazel
I may or may not have foddered two elite+ copies when I was newer back when izold was considered trash
But it doesn't matter because my rng grants me immunity
spare cloud
yup not getting anywhere arden was insta dying so im tried using rosaline instead but still not much luck
dusky hazel
How did you set up your team @spare cloud
spare cloud
Mirael
lucius
rowan
hogan
rosa
dusky hazel
Tbh that might be the best team you have atm...try to see if you can get an early lucius ult
Sometimes I'll put Rowan in front and put lucius right behind him if lucius is dying quickly.
oak spruce
If i'm using eironn as my carry hero should he be in front or back?
sly cobalt
Help?
dusky hazel
@oak spruce depends on who you want to pull and how much dodge he has
crimson galleon
Hey guys who should I ascend and what looks like my best team comp at the moment? Any insight would be helpful, thanks
urban salmon
@sly cobalt eironn,tasi,lyca,rowan,ferael (in that order). Also use eye on eironn instead of grace
sly cobalt
@urban salmon so like this?
pale kettle
https://i.imgur.com/PwGHntz.jpeg Any tips please?
autumn raven
Is it worth it to L+ mirael if I have to use Belinda and Gwen?
warm swan
No @autumn raven . Do not use Ascended-tier heroes as fodder for L-tier heroes
urban salmon
@sly cobalt yup! Please try
neon nova
@pale kettle try rose Daimon Arden Rowan Belinda
pale kettle
Still got destroyed @neon nova :/
vocal sluice
@sly cobalt
neon nova
@autumn raven no it’s worth getting belinda and/or gwyn to L+ using mireal
neon nova
@pale kettle belinda daimon Arden Rowan pippa
terse lintel
lol
pale kettle
Yeah, still stuck @neon nova
terse lintel
@autumn raven these are the only heros you want to build up and feed to other heros
neon nova
@pale kettle play for rng or gain levels. Might’ve reached a wall that only some levels can help with
pale kettle
Ahh okay... ty :)
haughty furnace
Pls help me I never get help
autumn raven
Wouldn't it be early for me to get rid of mirael for another DPS? Or since I can L+ now it is fine?@neon nova
heavy stag
Any KT 500 comps at around lvl 340ish? 👀
warm swan
If anyone is willing to give input, please do so. Want to push to 30 for that addtl hcp.
neon nova
@autumn raven yes, but if she can be used to get another/better dps to Mythix I would
mild geyser
@warm swan maybe https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/771698306082275338/Screenshot_20201030-192438.png
urban salmon
@warm swan try this
crimson galleon
Anyone able to help out with my lineup? Screenshot above
dark raven
How do I find the bountiful trial Ainz guide map for lineup?
haughty furnace
Can someone HELP ME I NEVER EVER GET HELP I HAVE BEEN STUCK ON THIS FOR 3 DAYS
warm swan
Thanks for the inputs @mild geyser , @urban salmon . Still got wrecked. Maybe a couple more retries/levels.
mild geyser
@dark raven https://afk.guide/bountiful-trials-event some might not work cuz apparently they changed some things
dark raven
Thanks!!
haughty furnace
PLS HELP ME
mild geyser
@warm swan https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/765357087261589514/Screenshot_20201013-013529_Gallery.png maybe
Hopefully u don’t need merc
haughty furnace
CAN I GET HELP
pale kettle
Maybe 😏
mild geyser
Oh yea u can just use discord search to find some 29-54 comps if people talk about it. It won’t find every but it finds some
warm swan
Yeah I def need to get Saf her +30. 
She's the only one different from the comps I see. Thanks man. Appreciate it.
haughty furnace
DUDE CAN I GET HELP OTHER PEOLLE GET HELP HUTBI DONT
fickle loom
@warm swan don't give safiya 30 lol it's the last thing from necessary and carry isn't even really safiya's role in end game
haughty furnace
Is brute good
warm swan
@fickle loom I don't want to, that's why she's stuck with 10 on mine, but all the comp I saw that beat that stage (on my level) has her on 30. 
fickle loom
@warm swan er, she does very much need her 20 though lol
tawdry zephyr
What should i make my team as a beginner? Idrk what i should make my frontline
spare girder
Focus Nara or Brutus? Just came back from being afk quite a bit
@dusky sage
Nara
warm swan
Yeah she's 13 now, lol. Thanks
@spare girder Fwiw, all I really did from 29-1 to 29-54 is the Eironn comp you can see a couple of posts up.
fickle loom
20 SI is actually where safiya pops off but that stage isn't even a safiya stage really though xd most important thing is to keep mehira & raine under control
i didn't even have 30 eironn, and plenty of people have done these stages with very low ascension nara/athalia's, you do need more patience and/or gear the more you're missing but it should definitely be possible
dusky sage
@spare girder should i unlink my Ainz from shemira and run both? And link him to Grez
spare girder
@spare girder Fwiw, all I really did from 29-1 to 29-54 is the Eironn comp you can see a couple of posts up.
@warm swan
Bruh I swear Saveas one shots my Rowan in that position.
@spare girder should i unlink my Ainz from shemira and run both? And link him to Grez
@dusky sage
No
fickle loom
marvel in the beauty that is a lucius clear @spare girder
warm swan
Yeah, I'll give it a few more days. I got spoiled by this comp. Thanks.
fickle loom
ok but for real though, get tasi + eironn in there, their CC and better damage is waaaaay more important, your current team deals no damage. you can't let safiya ult, and you should try to pull her out of shield with either eironn or SOMETHING.
spare girder
marvel in the beauty that is a lucius clear @spare girder
@fickle loom
Lol wow I'll just use Talene as a replacement
oak spruce
Would elite+ eironn or elite shemira be a better carry?
spare girder
Eironn
fickle loom
dude no eironn E+ is shit especially without gear xd
eironn NEEDS at least mythic gear to not die, otherwise he basically just pulls enemies over to help them kill himself faster
haughty furnace
CAN I GET PLS YES OR NO
spare girder
CAN I GET PLS YES OR NO
@haughty furnace
Brutus is good
eironn NEEDS at least mythic gear to not die, otherwise he basically just pulls enemies over to help them kill himself faster
@fickle loom
Oh!
haughty furnace
I’m not talking about Brutus
spare girder
Okay this worked, nice!
I’m not talking about Brutus
@haughty furnace
Who's the brute then?
fickle loom
lol nice grats, nara to the disrupt rescue 
haughty furnace
IM TALKING AHOUT HELP FOR MY PINEUP TO PASS MY LVL
spare girder
Can someone HELP ME I NEVER EVER GET HELP I HAVE BEEN STUCK ON THIS FOR 3 DAYS
@haughty furnace
You need some kind of healing tbh...
haughty furnace
I have tasi and Belinda
vivid basalt
What would be a good lineup to make from these champs?
haughty furnace
Well eironn is good for like late game
vivid basalt
Should eironn be a frontline or a backline champ?
thin burrow
cany anyone help me understand something. I have shemira at 180. Often just after she casts her ultimate she full heals instantly, but sometimes it doesnthappen. Wondering what triggers the full heal?
hoary folio
warm swan
Shem has two skills that heal her and it's based on the dmg dealt to enemies. @thin burrow
fickle loom
@vivid basalt generic questions belong in #classic-questions ask there and more people will be likely to answer, use this channel if you're having trouble with specific stage
vivid basalt
Okay sorry about that I will make sure to keep that in mind next time.
tawdry zephyr
What should i make my lineup as a beginner?
clear fjord
I've been stuck here for a long time, 12+ hours
kindred lynx
Anyone know any good daimon comps for campaign? I can get twins ascended if that’s need I have some stargazes saved up
brave wagon
@worthy bane Hi Arty, how should I build my daimon comp to beat this comp?
I can't use brutus, rowan, eironn, lyca, tasi, mehira, twins, saurus
would rosa daimon be a good idea?
worthy bane
@brave wagon Nara or Athalia on Mirael, put Daimon in 5, rosa might work in 3 if 1 can survive Estrilda Warek damage
brave wagon
oh and I can use mehira too, but not at the same time as fera
oh I can't do nara, athalia kelthur either because of thoran cheese comp 2 😅
acoustic cloak
What would you think about mine @worthy bane
brave wagon
@acoustic cloak your question should actually be in #classic-questions
@kindred lynx something like
lyca
- tasi
eironn - rowan
daimon works
worthy bane
Try 12345 Ezio (if he lives through mirael fireballs, otherwise albedo) Arthur Fera Rosa Daimon, I can't see your full roster so I can't really give more info @brave wagon
@acoustic cloak Wukong Lucius Flora Lyca Arden, level them all to 61 after reseting the others then 81 wukong
kindred lynx
@brave wagon is it better to use daimon or saf with that comp?
brave wagon
daimon in most cases
kindred lynx
alright ty
brave wagon
why is discord bot so dumb
after 6 attempts.
Do I take off fera furn to get rosa to follow him @worthy bane ?
worthy bane
Why aren't you gwyning it? Seems like a simple gwyn stage and the core is open
brave wagon
My gwyn doesn't do enough dmg before warek and estrilda breaks through my ezio and albedo
worthy bane
Well there's your issue, use your own estrilda and knock back warek so he's Gwyn stunnes
brave wagon
I tried using estrilda at spot 3, with ezio and albedo spot 1, but they don't hold up long enough
I'll try the daimon comp first, should I make rosa follow fera or daimon?
random fiber
can't kill thane before he ults
worthy bane
Rosa on daimon for sure@brave wagon
kindred lynx
@brave wagon oh yeah one more thing, I should replace daimon for Saf when I get him +20 at least right?
sterile pier
Been here for a while any formation?
Tried many combinations none really got the job done
acoustic cloak
Man @worthy bane thank you.
hard folio
rugged bane
I might just need to level up more, but I'm still beginning to feel that this team/lineup is lacking. Advice?
idle umbra
@rugged bane Id experiment with oden and eiron probably replacing saveas (i did notice hes got the levels on him so maybe not) Eiron has faction bonus. Your at a good point for your power level.
rigid oar
Newbie here, been stuck here for a while. Would appreciate help ❤️
rugged bane
@idle umbra I might be able to slot in Eirron tomorrow cause all that's stopping me from reaching 100+ on my crystal is hero essence
Who should I replace with Oden?
idle umbra
@rigid oar You need to use nich people to stop vampire dude from ulting, so similar suggestion CC him enough and burst if you can get away with it. I'd try eiron and oden again its a similar situation
gloomy sentinel
@rigid oar Brutus might be better, and put Shimera in the back
idle umbra
Well oden is just a key pick for many situations as if you can keep him alive for a bit he starts to perma cc people. as far as who to replace thats hard id try a few comps but you shouldnt replace tasi
I think hes getting one shot once he vampire ults
velvet belfry
@rigid oar have tasi ult and you win
rigid oar
I don’t think I have oden sadly, like you said he ults very fast
idle umbra
oh you dont
gloomy sentinel
@rigid oar yeah +eironn, maybe get rid of maid
idle umbra
Fawkes or nermora to cc him until tasi ults
rigid oar
Lucius dies right away too /:
velvet belfry
imo
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Hogan
Shemira
gloomy sentinel
Yeah Lucius is at faction disadvantage
idle umbra
does rowan survive long enough to ult if you put him where lucius is?
velvet belfry
yeah rowan could also work in pos 1
rigid oar
Rowan dies pretty fast too
idle umbra
Your win condition is not letting vampire dude ult from what i see
rigid oar
Yeah. I am just unsure how I can do it /:
velvet belfry
i think beefing hogan up so you can take advantage of his initial CC + ult to give you time to fire off tasi and shem ult is the play
idle umbra
nemora tasi eiron may do the trick
rigid oar
No Tasi no Oden sadly
velvet belfry
huh
idle umbra
let me look at it agian
velvet belfry
shes in that screenshot you posted..
idle umbra
yeah
velvet belfry
idle umbra
nemora in corner so she charms vampire
velvet belfry
i think nemora mid to potentially charm ira also good but yea
rigid oar
I am dumb sorry I was thinking of Lyca
idle umbra
both are decent options but i remember those stages
if vampire ults once he does it again
rigid oar
Yeah he ults very fast
rugged bane
@idle umbra thank you so much lol
idle umbra
what formation won?
velvet belfry
my win con for vedan stages is nakoruru
idle umbra
so I CC him and burst him OR just until oden ults
you can pull him in with eiron fallowed by nemora charm, then tasi ults around the time he gets back up
probably put tasi in spot one
front top
velvet belfry
tasi was also good for earlygame vedan, now its just nakoruru + haste to do a stun rotation and kill him with ult before he forces her to run away
i used to hate vedan now i hate silvina more
and tbh niru is worse too
idle umbra
yeah shes a pain, i usually bait her to a mage in front line and eiron pull her
velvet belfry
niru just be tanking everything then randomly executing people
rigid oar
Nemora doesn’t feel like charming at all
idle umbra
For you early game people if your going to spend any money get Ainz he will carry you
rugged bane
@idle umbra Saveas, Thoran, Oden, Tasi, and Daimon
velvet belfry
its rng based
idle umbra
she charms semi randomly across from her
velvet belfry
usually a few resets will get you the charm
idle umbra
about 2 seconds in
its a 50% on either target unless you put her back mid
ah cool, I never used saveas. Always seemed weak compared to my other options. tried a bunch
rigid oar
Maybe my formation is off not sure
idle umbra
@rugged bane Daimon will probably be your carry dont be afraid to have him in the back
rugged bane
@idle umbra Saveas is feeling weak imo too
velvet belfry
i learned to love saveas when i was running maulers only for fun, that man is a pretty consistent carry through chapter 9
idle umbra
yeah she should charm him, not sure if holgan will do much for you never used him
velvet belfry
hogan is nice for cc
rugged bane
Unfortunately I can't level Daimon past 100 unless I have my crystal up, which Saveas is one of my fodders for
rigid oar
Eironn dies short after the pull
idle umbra
if eiron dosent even knock them back hes not going to do the job
might need a few tried to get a dodge
Also try tasi in front, if she dosent die she will get her ult off faster
rigid oar
and hogan doesnt even get to use his ult
idle umbra
oh if you have a decent rosa, if you put her across from vampire she will run away making him not get energy as fast
velvet belfry
i think lucius or rowan up front with hogan is a better bet then shem
idle umbra
i did that a few times to win, kinda janky
velvet belfry
and if eironns dying quick you can just do shem instead of him
idle umbra
his shem has all the levels
velvet belfry
or if hogans not cutting it you can just say fuck it and build an Ogi
hidden hound
I am lost on how to beat this one
idle umbra
@hidden hound well dont put shemira across from nemora
idle umbra
@rigid oar my best guess is shemira (front top) rosa below
hopefully vedan hits rosa once and then goes to shemira
then gets chain CC'ed
@hidden hound you got a good champ pool
velvet belfry
@hidden hound if you link albedo to shemira for mythic+, she might be able to tank Kaz
also: hopefully you know this but you shouldnt have done so many L heroes, all those wilders are wasting fodder that should just be used to get one to ascended
hidden hound
eironn is one away from L+
same for tasi
same for lyca
same for safiya
velvet belfry
just focus on one
rugged bane
I hate the vampire guy
idle umbra
yeah hes a pain
rugged bane
Vedan more like get run over by a van
idle umbra
i wouldnt stress though at your stage its only a day till you can beat him if you cant figure it out
kindred lynx
Sylv goes to Rowan
hidden hound
random bullshit go
rugged bane
Yeah, Rosaline is only capping me cause I need hero essence but then everyone will be 101
idle umbra
gratz
rigid oar
Not working :(
velvet belfry
@rigid oar do you have Ogi
idle umbra
oh try switching hogan for something
rugged bane
I just want to get to 9-20 so I can unlock the challenge arena for more tokens
idle umbra
if you have rowan
rigid oar
I tried Rowan too
gloomy sentinel
I would get rid of maid. She doesn't last long enough to do anything
idle umbra
hmm
pale monolith
Help I get melted instantly
idle umbra
sometimes she dodges and cc's
id try rowan back mid and im desperate but brutus to tank vedan
gloomy sentinel
@pale monolith put lyca to take silvina
gloomy sentinel
Instead of cecilia
pale monolith
Well Cecila is really good withthat circle that reduces damage
gloomy sentinel
I think. though your shimera level is really low too
idle umbra
yeah his shemira probably isnt helping here
velvet belfry
i really think a L or L+ Ogi would solve your Vedan tanking woes @rigid oar
gloomy sentinel
Maybe Cecilia should hit saveas
pale monolith
Shemira most of the time gets swpaped with Lucius or Skirsth
idle umbra
id experiment with tasi and wukong @pale monolith wukong to get spider wrapped to negate the cc
rigid oar
@velvet belfry I only have him elite
gloomy sentinel
Luca
Brutus
Cecilia
Rowan
Belinda
idle umbra
make sure brutus is taking the spears
pale monolith
Silvina targest Rowan not Lyca
pale monolith
Will do, but I melted this stage till noe,got from 9-20 to 10-28 in 1 hr
pale monolith
Nah I was stuck at 9-20for 5days, got so.e crazy RNG and melted the rest
velvet belfry
thats how it be
gloomy sentinel
Belinda
Brutus
Cecilia
Tasi
Rowan
idle umbra
Mercs got me through some rough times early on. the 3 dollar sub thing is really nice for that
gloomy sentinel
Or maybe swap Cecilia and Rowan
idle umbra
that is a rough comp hes against, you basically need to kill spear man and vampire, as well as not lose to spider cc
velvet belfry
i finished stage 19 in a hour and have been stuck on like 20-12 for 2 days
gloomy sentinel
Any ideas for 180 graveborn tower
pale monolith
Still cant pass but thanks for the help
gloomy sentinel
If you can you might need to manually proc ult so it isn't wasted when vampire is flying
kindred lynx
@gloomy sentinel whats your box for gb
idle umbra
hmm
kindred lynx
you probably need to wait again for that ferael
idle umbra
is shem doing more than isabele?
gloomy sentinel
I can use any of them
kindred lynx
hm
rigid oar
Not much luck here 😦
kindred lynx
Oh i guess you do need izold anyway since you dont have 2 tanks
@gloomy sentinel try this
Nara
idle hinge
Very new. Would appreciate a suggestion for progression team
idle umbra
there is one thing that id still try @rigid oar its probably not going to work but try to put lucius where nemora is since i think he will stun him. but i doubt it will be enough
kindred lynx
Nara
Izold
Fera
thoran
Shem
idle umbra
how did you get e+ lucretia?
idle hinge
Event and a drop
gloomy sentinel
They get owned by eironn
idle umbra
@idle hinge belinda is a good carry until you get chapter 25ish
kindred lynx
swap nara and fera
idle umbra
but make sure your wishlist is solid there are a lot of guides
Also if you feel like spending money ainz is pretty sick for carrying
idle hinge
Ty. I'll focus on Belinda. Sounds like the rest is kinda w.e in early game
idle umbra
basically make sure your wishlist has rowan tasi daimon in it for sure
velvet belfry
@idle hinge level up fodder like Hogan, Angelo, Ogi, Mirael, and Ankhira for now since you will be able to uncap their levels and ascension faster for the crystal. You cna use Belinda or Solise for a carry, and you got a nice pool of other heroes to build comps Lucretia, Belinda, Khazard, Lucius, Lyca, Shemira etc
idle umbra
i'd look into some guides just make sure they are recent like 3 months or less old
getting your wishlist right is probably the biggest thing you can do early thats super important
idle hinge
Ty both. I'll go with Belinda slightly higher than the rest ume advised for a team for now and update wishlist. Ty both
kindred lynx
@idle hinge for now, bellinda lucius lyca lucierietta and khasos
try replacing khasos with rowan asap
gloomy sentinel
Actually I didn't notice all the damage is from mehira hmm
velvet belfry
how is khasos earlygame
kindred lynx
mediocre
velvet belfry
does he ever rly shine, i have barely looked into him
kindred lynx
no
velvet belfry
Sad!
idle umbra
early game for me was all about CC picks, oden rowan got me through alot as well as rosa and lucius
velvet belfry
earlygame was like Tasi Gwyneth Lucius Satrana for me
idle umbra
oh and tasi
velvet belfry
Satrana carried me from like chapter 4 to 10 or so
idle umbra
lyca tasi rosa lucius belinda with fill ins of CC, oh and wukong got me to level 100 but fell off after that
havent tried satrana much but i do like her
velvet belfry
shes cute
kindred lynx
I used lyca, tasi, rowan, lucius, bellinda till ch 25 so its pretty viable
idle umbra
that was my comp until i got ainz
kindred lynx
after that it fell off really hard and had to switch to a diff comp
rigid oar
I wish I got Lyca too
idle umbra
I didnt get a rowan copy till like chapter 15
kindred lynx
I think I had E rowan uptil ch 20 or so
velvet belfry
satranas just very squishy, her anti heal and dmg immunity is so good but she will die instantly so there really no reason to use her over belinda or shem
in earlygame that is
rugged bane
Are my crystal choices good for my general lineup, or should I swap some characters around?
idle umbra
you kidna have to go with what it gives you copies of to
kindred lynx
shem is overrated, doesent synergize that well with other units
velvet belfry
yes she is overrated for sure
kindred lynx
@rugged bane lyca in crystal
rugged bane
@kindred lynx Lyca isn't in crystal because with one more E+ fodder I can promote her to legendary+ immediately
idle umbra
nara and wukong is what i would do after lyca
kindred lynx
ah ok
velvet belfry
nara for sure
idle umbra
wukong is falling off so maybe not
rugged bane
Wukong fell off for me in chapter 8
velvet belfry
i was using E to E+ Nara all the way to like chapter 16
idle umbra
nara was my first ascended
kindred lynx
falling off due to low ascenscion level probably
idle umbra
and honestly one of my favorites her animations are great. oden is currently my favorite non carry
rugged bane
Speaking of Nara, she's in my hero choice chest
idle umbra
if your not building lucius id do nara
rugged bane
I was told to save it for my 8th copy, but the guides say to grab whatever unit I'm 1-2 away from ascending
I don't even have Lucius lol
idle umbra
thats smart, depends on if you need the power before then
kindred lynx
you arent that far into the game, it doesent matter yet what you do and dont have rn
velvet belfry
nemora is what id have chosen from that chest
idle umbra
for me its nara though because shes done so much for me
kindred lynx
honestly pick up lucius he is really strong as a healer and tank, and works well in lightbearer + wilder team
velvet belfry
lucius is goated too
idle umbra
they are mostly all good
velvet belfry
but nowadays id just be gettin faction scrolls for fodder
idle umbra
nemora always was second to oden and nara to me
kindred lynx
nemora falls off at ch 20
rugged bane
I already have elite Nemora and Nara, while I don't have Lucius or the other one at all
idle umbra
khasos isnt worth it
kindred lynx
and nara is hard to use in campaign once u hit a certain point, so its really up to you whats your short and long term plans
idle umbra
you need 8 copies of a champ eventually
Nara has to be scaled to the content, shes not really a suppor
she will win fights that are unwinnable normally pre 20
rugged bane
I might spend more money in the future, so I'll more than likely be regularly doing draws
idle umbra
Well all purchases are not equal.
kindred lynx
@rugged bane this game is very expensive, so dont buy diamonds, rather buy the event stuff
rugged bane
Like I already bought the progression rewards, and I plan to upgrade it when I get the chance
terse lintel
Best to save chest. Securing ascended is something that will be needed. Took forever to get last copy of daimon
kindred lynx
event stuff as in, event tickets/tokens etc
rugged bane
I also plan to get the Regal Rewards pass since tomorrow's my 8th day
idle umbra
progression rewards then noble society then 15 dollar montly card is the order if your going to spend more. With dimensionals probably being above all that if they are good
terse lintel
Only things worth purchase is advance rewards for chapter clear, subscription, and regal set rewards
If in doubt always ask
rugged bane
I'm about halfway for one of the dimensionals now, and if I get desperate I'll probably end up buying the other one
kindred lynx
@rugged bane did you buy one of the dimensionals yet?
rugged bane
Not yet, I still have the discount @kindred lynx
kindred lynx
its pretty worth to buy one, and save for the other one that way you arent dry on resources
idle umbra
dimensionals are best value at 15 hands down
kindred lynx
and these heroes wont be coming back, and are relatively strong so its pretty worth to pick them both up
tawdry zephyr
What could i make my lineup as a befinner?
idle umbra
Honestly Ainz will probably get you a extra chapter or 2 just cause
tawdry zephyr
oki
idle umbra
honestly your kinda lucky with all those lucius and belinda
tawdry zephyr
yh idk why i pulled so much
idle umbra
they will get you going well if you keep getting them
tawdry zephyr
but im not complaining lol
oo kk thats good to hear, also if i got albedo who would she replace? Thinking of getting her but idk
kindred lynx
@tawdry zephyr buying or exchanging
south latch
Hey, 16-36 could use some help, been stuck for a bit. Have tried to use Brutus to buy Belinda time, but it doesn't seem to be working currently. Have tried a lot of position combinations
idle umbra
@tawdry zephyr I'd get ainz, albedo early game is ok but i m not even sure its better than lucius
raw rune
idk how to beat niru this team can't be rooted or stopped by tasi
kindred lynx
@raw rune remove rowan for arden and switch him to bottom spot
idle umbra
@south latch if you put lyca where brutus is i think estrilda will get stunned before she does her stun by lucius
not sure if that will be enough
raw rune
can't be rooted
kindred lynx
just wait till you get some more exp then, there arent too many different options rn
@south latch replace lyca for either talene or rowan, you need haste and dont need 2 heals
south latch
@idle umbra Lyca got slapped in BRutus' spot
idle umbra
ok worth a shot, sometimes it works out
worn oyster
I'm in map 10, should I change my carry?
kindred lynx
who is your carry since you have 3 built
idle umbra
i know lol
worn oyster
Shemira
south latch
Lyca is getting absolutely slapped at any spot because of assassins in the backline and their strong ranged/frontline
idle umbra
oh silv
kindred lynx
@worn oyster you are fine for now, shemira is pretty useless until M just a heads up
idle umbra
i remember that comp, I had a really hard time, eventually my belinda hit 3 people and killed them with first ult
worn oyster
@worn oyster you are fine for now, shemira is pretty useless until M just a heads up
@kindred lynx I'm stuck in map 10Guess i'm gonna go afk more
kindred lynx
@worn oyster oh if you are stuck I can tell you a comp
worn oyster
Oh 11
kindred lynx
bellinda, rowan, daimon, lyca, and tasi
reset shemira and level bellinda try it out
idle umbra
@south latch When i did it i had a rosa take the estrilda knockback and a fireball get away with like 10% hp and start her buffing, but it still took like 50 trys
so honestly that was is just hard
tawdry zephyr
Also from th team you gave me haller which unit should i focus levelling as the main dps?
worn oyster
Ty
south latch
I might need to upgrade my E+ to L+ Lucius, rowan and Rosa at this point tbh
kindred lynx
@worn oyster try it out and show me what stage ur on and ill let you know what to put in front and back and stuff
idle umbra
Yeah some people say to wait until you can go ascended but early game isnt that forgiving IMO
well i mean until you have 8 copies of said person
south latch
I have like 5 of each of them anyway so I'll get them eventually
south latch
Oh I RNGd it on the enemy ultis just being slow, nice. Belinda 1% hp, Did with Rosa, ty for the help
worn oyster
@kindred lynx Bel helps me a lot ty
idle umbra
Very nice yeah i try harded the early game
rosa tanks well and then goes untargetable so its a trick to add to your book
she will be good for pulling silvanis off rowan as long as shes the weaker one.
valid bobcat
@worn oyster I also reccomend u read the pins in #classic-questions
rigid oar
still stuck yikes
valid bobcat
@raw rune if u can be fucked, reset all ur heroes and level wukong as high as possible to 100 pref and all ur other heroes at the minimum, that usually does it. Evenly leveling characters kinda sucks especially in the early game
still stuck yikes
@rigid oar which stage?
rigid oar
This
valid bobcat
whats happening in that stage, whos dpsing you the most in the enemy team
rigid oar
vedan
valid bobcat
ok
you could try:
shemira
Tasi
eironn
Brutus
nemora
just move around the gear and try it out a couple times, lemme know how it goes
rigid oar
vedan gets pulled tasi dies
valid bobcat
alright, try replace eironn with pippa and replace lucius with hogan, remember to change around gear
valid bobcat
who is nemora charming
rigid oar
ok with luck and rng involved I actually managed to win thanks to your help ❤️
valid bobcat
npnp
rigid oar
been stuck here for so long u.u
valid bobcat
for the future, u should overlevel ur dps (shem) and only level ur other characters when necessary. Also read the pins in #classic-questions
:))
rigid oar
thank you very much will do 😄
idle umbra
@rigid oar gratz
civic sandal
worn oyster
Can I win this or just afk more?
vernal gulch
What should I level?
What should I use and where should I place the unit?
rough lion
Please help, I can’t beat this stage
small moth
@rough lion first swap brutus and belinda, then don't use 2 carries. Use only belinda or only shemira not both. And then put lyca instead of belinda or shemira
raw rune
do i really not have a way to beat niru (rooting and tasi freezing strongest enemy do not work)
lost nova
@raw rune reset your saveas levels.
Make wukong 100.
Then put the rest back into saveas.
Your case might just be that your under leveled and don't have a carry that's overleved so you have to afk a bit for more XP to level heros
high pivot
Could try something like swapping mehira for tasi hogan for pippa and frontlining saveas. Double down on the sleep.
raw rune
I just reset silvina and levelled estrilda but don't think it helped ok ill try that
ok ill try that first
high pivot
It'll take a few resets
And wukong must get ultimate off otherwise you'll probs get wiped
raw rune
hm is Isabella the one with purple horizontal beams?
stark dagger
Help.
lone bough
I just got my wu Kong to level 100. What should I do now?
orchid monolith
Should I keep up with this team or is there a better option now ?
raw rune
wu Kong still dies too quickly
rigid oar
Id appreciate some help u.u
oak spruce
Stuck on 5-32. Anything I can do?
eager gust
what should be my best lineup at this moment, i wanted to use the twins but i dont know what i should build around them
woeful agate
Talene + Lucius front line. You should absolutely build Daimon.
Wu is kinda overrated unless you build him for pvp, late game
You can use twins, tasi and Daimon in the backline. Daimon can do crazy dmg as a tank
@eager gust
valid bobcat
anyone who is asking for help and that is below chapter like 25, pleasee, pleaseeeeee read the pins in #classic-questions saves both you and I a lot of time pleaseeee
orchid monolith
Yeah good thing I changed my name so people stop telling me that
valid bobcat
what stage are you @orchid monolith
orchid monolith
7-16
valid bobcat
ok, if you really read the pins, you'd know that u dont want to evenly level ur heroes, ur wukong should be level 100
orchid monolith
Nah my carry is Saurus actually not wukong
But I read that I should lvl up my carry more than my team true but I didnt know by how much. So im doing like everyone get lvl 61 then Saurus goes first alone to 81 and the others join him one by one.
valid bobcat
But I read that I should lvl up my carry more than my team true but I didnt know by how much. So im doing like everyone get lvl 61 then Saurus goes first alone to 81 and the others join him one by one.
@orchid monolith personally i think that leveling ur carry until u cant anymore is best, thats just from my experience
orchid monolith
@valid bobcat K I think ima keep my carry always atleast 20 lvl above the rest of my team. But this team is literally the first team I did when I started this game people told me I didnt get lucky with packs openings. But now I have more character is there any chance I get a new team ? (Probably with wukong since the pins says its OP for now)
valid bobcat
this is all i got cant go past tht
@formal prawn reset everything, over level wukong and use belinda lucius lyca wukong and rosaline for now, in the future start using fodder heroes and also read the pins
formal prawn
start using fodder heroes in the sense?
valid bobcat
@valid bobcat K I think ima keep my carry always atleast 20 lvl above the rest of my team. But this team is literally the first team I did when I started this game people told me I didnt get lucky with packs openings. But now I have more character is there any chance I get a new team ? (Probably with wukong since the pins says its OP for now)
@orchid monolith team comps dont matter too much in the early game, just kinda use whatever u have the most copies of for raw stats i reckon, or just peice together what seems good following a generic tier list. ur pack openings are a pretty yikes what is ur wishlist?
formal prawn
lyca? i dont got her
valid bobcat
@orchid monolith I reckon for now see how u go for pulls, for now just progress as far as possible with wukong as ur main carry, then switch to either mirael or saveas
formal prawn
btw the guide said use strong ones and save copies ryt wukong dies too fast even if i level him up
orchid monolith
Can't saurus be my carry ?
@orchid monolith I reckon for now see how u go for pulls, for now just progress as far as possible with wukong as ur main carry, then switch to either mirael or saveas
@valid bobcat
valid bobcat
lyca? i dont got her
@formal prawn read the pins in #classic-questions good sir, fodder heroes are all the heroes that cant be ascended further than L+
what level is ur wukong at compared to the rest of ur heroes
inner sentinel
So I've finally got the fodder to upgrade a graveborn. Should go ahead and do one ive got here or wait for Shamira?
valid bobcat
Can't saurus be my carry ?
@valid bobcat
@orchid monolith sure it can, but if u wanna try hard sweaty sweaty id reccomend use wukong
formal prawn
i meant use fodders heroes u mean to ascend or in campaigne?
valid bobcat
So I've finally got the fodder to upgrade a graveborn. Should go ahead and do one ive got here or wait for Shamira?
@inner sentinel absolutely not sir, what hero are you using as ur main dps
valid bobcat
i meant use fodders heroes u mean to ascend or in campaigne?
@formal prawn this why u read THE PINSSSSSSS, use wukong for now as dps, then fodder heroes (mirael or saveas) later as dps, team comp really doesnt matter too much just slap together what seems good from whatever tier lists exist around
Belinda atm
@inner sentinel can u gimme a full screeny of ur heroes
inner sentinel
valid bobcat
i would highly reccomend u to follow the instructions from my username
inner sentinel
I've read a lot, but I think I'm just impatient
valid bobcat
cuz uve kinda screwed urself over here
inner sentinel
Well damn I thought I was doing this right
valid bobcat
close, u got hte faction part right, but u really wanna ascend fodder heroes
inner sentinel
Oh well great so I've done xactly what your not supposed to do
valid bobcat
if imma be perfectly honest with ya, thats what u've done
if u wanna stick with this account u'd just have to rely on getting lucky, if not, it shouldnt take too long to get back to where ur currently up to
inner sentinel
Still confused as to why it's so bad to be honest
orchid monolith
@orchid monolith sure it can, but if u wanna try hard sweaty sweaty id reccomend use wukong
@valid bobcat + I love how Saurus fight and I have an artefact that grant a shield when the Hero use his ult which is kinda useless on Wukong
valid bobcat
Still confused as to why it's so bad to be honest
@inner sentinel u'll find out soon, cuz at a certain point u wont be able to level the heroes past 140, and since u have no more copies of the heroes to make them legendary plus ur gonna get stuck on that level until u get lucky to pull the right heroes to make the right ascention if that makes any sense
north tree
valid bobcat
@valid bobcat + I love how Saurus fight and I have an artefact that grant a shield when the Hero use his ult which is kinda useless on Wukong
@orchid monolith ya saurus is fun for sure, its just that thats my advice, u wont get very far using saurus, altho if it makes u feel any betteer u coudl keep sarus and use him for guild hunts
inner sentinel
So you get better drops for certain heros when they aren't legendary?
Sorry for being so confused...
valid bobcat
nonono, like for example when u do normal pulls, you see how u rarely ever get any purple cards?
since u rarely ever get any purple cards, and plus the purple cards dont guarantee the hero that u already ascended, that means that if ur unlucky, u could just never get the heroes that u have currently ascended
inner sentinel
Oh ok so basically you just need to ascend the ones you get lucky with, while having a big carry
valid bobcat
yep something like that. The reason u want to ascend fodder heroes is because u get more copies of them, therefore you are incredibly unlikely to get unlucky and not get any heroes to ascend
inner sentinel
Yeah I've definitely been doing nothing but using them as food. Thats what I was reading to do, guess I didn't read the right guides
inner sentinel
I didn't read these ones, there are so many different guides to this game
valid bobcat
:( just read the pins in #classic-questions they are the best
formal prawn
after making a elite + u can use other heroes of same rank for ascension ryt?
inner sentinel
Well I've already spent like a bit of money on this account so I don't want to start a new one lol
formal prawn
that picture aint clear
valid bobcat
here
after making a elite + u can use other heroes of same rank for ascension ryt?
@formal prawn yessir
inner sentinel
Alright well, im going to be stick with this account just crawl through trying to level the correct ones this time
valid bobcat
yup yup, good luck bro
valid bobcat
im stuck, any suggestions?
@daring marlin check out my username sir, not a whole lot u could do but maybe put lucius and belinda at the top
formal prawn
ty i guess i'll focus on fodders for now and wait for better summons and more copies
valid bobcat
yessirrrr
fringe sparrow
recommendations? even with a shem merc still cant fkng finish this stage
onyx basin
any low level comps for 32-60? 347lvl
valid bobcat
recommendations? even with a shem merc still cant fkng finish this stage
@fringe sparrow try replace the oden with tasi and teh shemira with lyca, test that and tell me how it goes
fringe sparrow
yup I've already tried it out but they're still way too squishy
valid bobcat
hmmm, try put mirael where rowan is and then replace the lyca with fawkes then
fringe sparrow
yup I'll try it out thanks
valid bobcat
and for future reference, its hard to get people to help since usually early game is hard to help with. learn what heroes do and trial and error is key :)
ripe crane
Hi! Can someone help me out idk what to do - Should I keep Lucretia or give her up for a more support-y character?
valid bobcat
give up for sure, lucretia is not very good early game @ripe crane
fringe sparrow
I heard she's definitely more of an end game hero
ripe crane
Thought so... she usually performs very well though.
valid bobcat
hmmm, thats interesting how so?
fringe sparrow
rip I might have to get all my heroes to at least 141, they're all getting destroyed pretty quickly thanks for the help though @valid bobcat
rigid oar
Mr draphiux id love some help if you had the time
ripe crane
In PvE she‘s usually one of the last ones alive and heals herself very well
unreal portal
Anyone clear KT 467 without thoran +30 or overleveled so much?
valid bobcat
rip I might have to get all my heroes to at least 141, they're all getting destroyed pretty quickly thanks for the help though @valid bobcat
@fringe sparrow all depends on how badly u wanna clear that chapter :), trial and error will get u thru it but also a day of afk rewards will do the same
urban cobalt
@fringe sparrow Try putting rowan behind in place of sharmila, sharmila on topmost-left and someone like Lyca on the front, next to lucias.
valid bobcat
In PvE she‘s usually one of the last ones alive and heals herself very well
@ripe crane that must be very conditional, or im just wrong lmao. Are you getting stuck on a stage or something is that why ur asking if u shold change teams
Mr draphiux id love some help if you had the time
@rigid oar try some trial and error with some different heroes, that stage is incredibly difficult from memory tho, especially since u didnt do what i told u to do and over level ur shemira :xxxx
rigid oar
@valid bobcat been on it for hours and I dont have the exp 😅 I listened I swear
valid bobcat
@valid bobcat been on it for hours and I dont have the exp 😅 I listened I swear
@rigid oar grrr, doesnt look like it to meee, if its really tough u could try sleep on it and come back, have u cleared as much of peaks of time and kings tower as u can?
rigid oar
@valid bobcat yes sir
valid bobcat
@valid bobcat No im doing ok im just trying to optimize
@ripe crane yep, best advice if u wanna sweat out this game is just read pretty much all of the reddit guides, figure out what the gist of all the support heroes are, and then u can just switch out the supports while keeping in ur dps and tank, then just play around. thats what mainly worked for me
fringe sparrow
yup thanks guys @urban cobalt @valid bobcat I've tried out literally every combinations I can thing of revolving around my carry but none has worked unfortunately. I'll try those formations out though once I get a little more progress thanks again
valid bobcat
@valid bobcat yes sir
@rigid oar :)
yup thanks guys @urban cobalt @valid bobcat I've tried out literally every combinations I can thing of revolving around my carry but none has worked unfortunately. I'll try those formations out though once I get a little more progress thanks again
@fringe sparrow no problem, make sure ur progressed in POT and tower too, sometimes some stages can be beaten but are not worth the effort, so waiting is fine too
ripe crane
@valid bobcat Ya im doing well with Wukong but I might swap out Thoran at some point tho. thx again
valid bobcat
@valid bobcat Ya im doing well with Wukong but I might swap out Thoran at some point tho. thx again
@ripe crane yea, just swap out thoran for hogan eventually, but it depends on what u pull also
ripe crane
Really? I replaced Hogan with Thoran bc I was unhappy with Hogan lol
urban cobalt
@ripe crane Hogan really weak and useless. But you should only ascend hogan/mireal/savaes/arden/silvia in early game. i.e., until all 5 of them are lv160. Afterwards, you can use whomever you like.
In the mean time, put your favorite heroes in the resonating crystal, if you want to use them.
ripe crane
@urban cobalt oh you mean bc i can easily get copies or what
urban cobalt
Yes. You can easily get cpies of them, as well as, you can use them as a footer later in the game to ascend Ascended-tier heroes.
ripe crane
Ok thx! Tbh the game does us a real solid with the rickety cart
severe vault
Help
pale kettle
stuck here using 5 light's. Could I win with some wilder-light mix comp?
karmic orbit
stuck here using 5 light's. Could I win with some wilder-light mix comp?
@pale kettle do you have fawkes?
wispy trout
Trying my luck here (even thoug this channel is kinda dead) can some one tell me which 5 chanps here cab make the best lineup?
naive quail
Should i go for shemira if so what comp should i use. Or Stay with Melinda
pale kettle
@karmic orbit no 🙂
karmic orbit
@karmic orbit no 🙂
@pale kettle how about lorsan? since that silvina will jump to your back we need a sacrifice =p, and try to put rowan in the front with cecilia further away from him (so taht she will not get the energy from rowan)
karmic orbit
Trying my luck here (even thoug this channel is kinda dead) can some one tell me which 5 chanps here cab make the best lineup?
@wispy trout for your current cond best would be wukong lucius, arden rowan lyca, try to get your carry after wukong (mirael/saveas)
wispy trout
@karmic orbit ty a lot for your answer, I really appreciate it can you just explain in noob words what do you mean by "try to get your carry after wukong (mirael/saveas)"
karmic orbit
If this helps idk
@pale kettle hahaha umm..i guess silvina always jump to rowan?if so try to put like this
cecilia
lucius
mirael
rowan
rosa