Or is this account just in a bad spot atm? Lol I just came back from a massive break about a month ago and I never followed the 'never ascend to Legendary if you can't instantly go to L+ rule'
#lineup-help
sonic lily
haughty furnace
What about belinda
pale kettle
As a carry? Light bearers have a faction disadvantage against graveborn so she should do worse
haughty furnace
2 graves and 3 mauler and someone told me light bearers are good against them
pale kettle
So the issue then isn’t Vedan/Niru wrecking your team its the maulers. Then yeah she should do better against the maulers, just hopefully vedan’s ult and nirus ult isnt a big deal
pale kettle
Though at least there is tasi and pippa tbh. I’m a bit surprised by how trash shemira’s damage has been. I guess i forgot legendary
haughty furnace
I almost did it it’s the graves what there weak ness
pale kettle
Yeah the issue is wilders is strong against graveborn and you dont have a wilder carry
haughty furnace
Wilder?
pale kettle
Yeah so like Solise, Tasi, etc. But Tasi and pippa are support wilders, not carries.
pale kettle
How good is your eironn, he’s great as a wilder carry but wilders are also weak against maulers. Ah just elite..
haughty furnace
ON THIS SUCKS he a elite tho
gentle cargo
Any ideas for a lineup?
pale kettle
The thing is normally for stages like Niru and Vedan, those are the ones people hate the most since they’re the hardest to kill. I’m a bit baffled by the damage done by your carry tbh. Was she always like that. The window shem actually worked is so small in this game
haughty furnace
Dude if I put eironn on the left the very bury attacks when he’s on the right
Niru
pale kettle
Did you use your merc for the week
haughty furnace
Merc for the week?
pale kettle
Yeah cause niru and Vedan stages are annoying tbh. I could just lend you a merc
haughty furnace
How
pale kettle
You haven’t used it for the week then? I just friend you and you request a merc. For the stage, you just use a merc in campaign
pale kettle
That might just be easier at this point. What player level?
haughty furnace
68
pale kettle
I'm having issues finding you, my name is Seb in game, player level 177.
haughty furnace
Try this
pale kettle
oh sweet ty. added. Hmm, which one indeed
pale kettle
i'm annoyed i lent my eironn already
haughty furnace
It says he’s help Bose on some quest
pale kettle
Eh, i can just keep lending until one works. Izold is free, Safiya is too. Yeah he's lent out for the week, you can get him next reset
normal dove
Any ideas on how I should build a team comp Im pretty lot
I know too many legendary I know I messed up alot lol
haughty furnace
K who else do I choose
pale kettle
hell, even daimon is worth a shot. you can request them all, one at a time if you only have one slot
normal dove
Yo tbh daimon is a beast
pale kettle
yeahh but mine is only +8 A with 3/3 furniture, i need to build his SI more
but super early game he should still do work
haughty furnace
Are they a wilder?
pale kettle
no but they're strong. you dont need a wilder hero to win that stage, you just need one that doesnt do bad damage
normal dove
I’m hardstuck in the 9-38 9-40 chapter
normal dove
I accidentally leveled up like 2 and lost so many fodders
I could have gotten at least one to legendary + or mythic
But eh you live and learn
pale kettle
ah gdi my izold is gone too. okay so go for safiya or daimon. i need to stop lending mercs to that one account
haughty furnace
Sen are they wilders?
normal dove
I’ve been trying to beat this one for like an hour
pale kettle
they're strong carries, you dont need wilders to pass it. just request one
haughty furnace
Ok u need shemira
normal dove
I’ve only been playing for a week kinda
haughty furnace
Oh what thing are the hero’s
pale kettle
unknown request my daimon
pale kettle
ah you used a merc already
pale kettle
it should be limited to once a week though
haughty furnace
Ik
pale kettle
okay so like my 9/9 30 eironn is reserved for you next reset okay? or whatever hero idc
haughty furnace
Ok I wish this week was the next week dude
pale kettle
sorry man
haughty furnace
It’s fine
normal dove
I would but I don’t know much lol
past tide
Try putting Daimon back top, with Ferael or Thoran at the bottom
dark bison
Stuck in 31-28. Any idea?
marsh nymph
Help me pls
strong parrot
@marsh nymph How well does Lucius fare against Ogi? If he can survive I'd put him opposite Ogi, probably Belinda opposite Arden (or Shemiram maybe?), Rowan in the middle, ad maybe build off that?
marsh nymph
@strong parrot put lucius in front of ogi?
strong parrot
That would be my first thought
And then see how he holds up; if he dies quickly maybe move him
marsh nymph
Alr, appreciate the help@strong parrot
strong parrot
No prob
charred flare
Any help? Enemy team wins everytime and I've tried a few different setups...
hollow hatch
@charred flare try
Khasos
Estrilda
Lyca
Ezio
Albedo
pure rapids
Any help?
hardy elm
What should I change if anything
@pure rapids why arent you making use of a faction boost?
pure rapids
Because the heroes wouldn't work
hardy elm
Ya see, I used to think that
pure rapids
Ya see, boosts aren't everything
hardy elm
I disagree
bright herald
Stuck on this one for the past 15 mins
hardy elm
15% damage 20%HP? That's a lotta stats
You also have hypogean, so you would also get the hypogean benefit
slate prairie
Need help with line up
pure rapids
Dude... you see comps with no boosts for a reason
You're literally in chapter 7 and using bad heroes
hardy elm
I started 3 days ago XD. So yeah I got garb. But its funny because ive cleared everything
cyan moon
I’m stuck on a labyrinth level if anyone can help. I’ve tried so many different combinations I’ve honestly lost track of what failed. See the enemy lineup pic for available mercenaries. Thank you so much for any help
hardy elm
I haven t progressed due to boredom. Not inability
charred flare
@hollow hatch that still loss...
pure rapids
Azael if u think u can solve my issue what should my comp be
warm swan
Team comp>Faction
Faction boost can help, but it should in no way restrict your team comp.
marsh plank
pure rapids
Could u guys help me out? Feel like I've tried everything lol
charred flare
Albedo trial is bs, any1 have any suggestions??
pure rapids
There's so many guides...
warm swan
@charred flare @bright herald There are line-up guide specifically for the arena of trials. I don't have them saved though but if you google them you will surely find them.
slate prairie
Need help coming up with a good team comp can someone help
pure rapids
bright herald
warm swan
@pure rapids Which opponent does Fawkes get in the coffin? Can Shem ult before she dies?
clear fjord
Been here for a long time I can't break through 22-2. I'm 6600 dust from daimon to 220, but I'd like to get through it tonight if possible
pure rapids
@warm swan fawkes gets hypo mage in coffin, Shem is last one alive and gets many ultra but is killed by niru vedan combo
warm swan
You need to cc Vedan and burst him fast. Can Arden cast his ult also? @pure rapids
vocal sluice
@pure rapids btw I scrolled up and looked at the convo you had with the other guy, don’t listen to him faction bonus means nothing lol
pure rapids
Yes but he dies after leaving me in a 4v1
My issue is if I cc vedan then Brutus kills me and if I don't him and niru kill me
hardy elm
@pure rapids people actually couldn't complete albedo and ainz trial? I thought it was easy ._.
pale kettle
This is freaking me out so much, out of like 300 times trying the same stage RNG was kind enough for me to eliminate 4 of the enemy team....any advice?
charred flare
Thnx for the help with that 1 trial fight. Idk y everyone relies on guides so much...
hardy elm
Because they dont want to think. Its easier to look up a guide than put forth ths effort. I didnt even know there was a guide till just now
warm swan
@pure rapids What does Mezoth do in that line-up?
pure rapids
It tanks (better than hogan and Lucius for some reason) and traps Brutus for the kill
charred flare
I looked at the guide I got linked for that 1 fight (seems only 1 setup is possible on it), so far the rest is actually kinda nice and I've learned some stuff about heros i don't own yet :p
warm swan
Niru gets stronger the longer the fight gets. You def need burst dmg. Did you try Antrada and Shem frontline?
pure rapids
Thank u so much vedan got killed right away and then Brutus
For some reason when I had antandra and tank frontline she just died idk why xd
balmy ore
daring marlin
little quest
Hi guys need help on who to build and what formation to use
halcyon root
Any advice on line up, I've tried everything I can think of. They just obliterate my team
rugged bane
Is this lineup good? Should I replace anyone?
daring vortex
Need help for the last fight on 31-60. Got the other 2 on rng wins and this last one is a bit tough even though it’s lower leveled
^ and a mythic twins
stuck trellis
@brazen wadi
this is kind of overleveld but will definetly work as long as u can meet power req
you can also use izold (30 3/3) instead if you dont have daimon
left hound
Is there any hero i should swap?
brazen wadi
@stuck trellis got it, thank you 
pale kettle
Help plz?
sick sparrow
They just gave me two lycas. And I don't know whether to put a star on my lyca or use it to take my tasi to mythical +.
pale kettle
Probably Mythic+ would be the better alternative of the 2
But I'm no expert so yeah better ask someone your level
raw rune
stuck on this mirael's fire shield thing is annoying
royal kayak
Stuck here :( what should i do?
neon swan
@sick sparrow never feed Ascended tier heroes to m+ another
brazen shore
stuck on this mirael's fire shield thing is annoying
@raw rune replace mehira with Rowan and level up your Hogan more
Stuck here :( what should i do?
@royal kayak if you want to use pippa, you need to have tasi in your comps too
outer notch
Which Gwyn comp do people use in 31-16-1? 
regal trellis
I need help, this is my line up and group
I'm stuck 9-28, I'm trying to just level my five legends whilst I save up others and get, hoping for brutus to change to cleave team.
west skiff
Any suggestions for the second trial while my Saurus is not SI 30
outer notch
Pray to god
fera
est
gwyn
art
rosa
@pale kettle is that supposed to be rng fiesta?
stuck trellis
winter perch
can i get to ch 28 ? any suggestions on the line up
near plover
Any ideas? Struggling hard in pvp:(
outer notch
Lyca
tasi
Eironn
rowan
safiya
@winter perch
pale kettle
Help?
cerulean knoll
Any ideas if I have any chance on getting this stage? I tried like 5 times with Vurk in front and he could survive till he cast one ult, but is unable to survive long enough to do damage. Just wondering if I should try 500 times or wait untill next week and get a mercenary?
eternal totem
29-58 anyone?
outer notch
That's an awful lot...mine is ~5-10%
eternal totem
29-59 anyone?
pale kettle
Halp
royal thorn
Really struggling to get past this, any suggestions?
obtuse stratus
Brutal Citadel 272 is really giving me some grief
amber badge
@royal thorn I would swap Shemira and talene, then swap rosaline and Arden
silk drift
Help before I lose my sanity
pale kettle
@silk drift take out arden, put in fawkes
rowan in the middle
put brutus in to tank shemira
switch eironn with rosa
royal thorn
I’ve been considering trying daimon carry instead of shemira. Thoughts?
pale kettle
daimon is shemira but better, use him 😄
he is basically tier 2 shemira
royal thorn
Just put him in exact same comp as shemira, or should i make any changes?
silk drift
@silk drift take out arden, put in fawkes
rowan in the middle
put brutus in to tank shemira
switch eironn with rosa
@pale kettle Who is Fawkes
pale kettle
umm, u should get him to mythic first though, with his SI he becomes rly strong @royal thorn
basically, do anything u can to get daimon to survive as long as possible
eternal flare
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royal thorn
umm, u should get him to mythic first though, with his SI he becomes rly strong @royal thorn
basically, do anything u can to get daimon to survive as long as possible
@pale kettle So to get this right, get him mythic before i swap shemira out?
pale kettle
yea
royal thorn
I guess a few weeks of gathering fodder then
ivory sandal
pale kettle
no
midnight mountain
29-60
eternal totem
@stuck trellis @pale kettle sorry for the ping, any of you have the ss of 29-59 and 29-60?
raw rune
what can i do to beat mirael i have a crystal slot available
silk drift
@silk drift
@pale kettle sorry for the late respond but I don’t have him
pale kettle
Help when you can
inland egret
@pale kettle
safiya
-rowan
eironn
-tasi
lyca
a little luck and maybe it will work
arctic flax
stichy
tidal coyote
Thx
pale kettle
@pale kettle
safiya
-rowan
eironn
-tasi
lyca
a little luck and maybe it will work
@inland egret
Athalia one shots anyone in the back center expect wukong
inland egret
eironn with full set cant dodge?
formal gazelle
What should be my line-up, as in who to prioritize and my carry would be who? Any suggestions 🤔 don't think my stichy lineup is working well against high dps waves
pale kettle
Can only dodge for so long lol
formal gazelle
And yes I messed up on Safiya I thought I had 2 more copies but only had 1 :(
inland egret
@pale kettle it's better than nothing
formal gazelle
Can only dodge for so long lol
@pale kettle sadly yes till I get him to 121 I think ill need another lineup but I can't figure out who and don't wanna waste resources so I will reset if needed tho
pale kettle
True, I actually got really close just now
formal gazelle
Oh not talking to me rip
arctic flax
no one helped me :/
formal gazelle
Any idea on who to build around gwen?
pale kettle
There are times of gwen comps if you look around, she doesn't really hit her power spike until sig lvl 20 but I would do something like daimon thoran gwen rosa nara and swap in belinda as needed in my opinion
civic sandal
What's the best lineup ?
pale kettle
@arctic flax are you dying super fast or not enough damage and who on your team is dying first
fleet thistle
im stuck 20-29 can someone help me?
pale kettle
Still stuck at chapter 10, pls help
vast meadow
@fleet thistle Make the team carry position focus damaging shemira, or make lucius to the back position(because lucius needs time to cast the shield)
fleet thistle
should i put rowan in front?
vast meadow
It's possible to put rowan in the thoran position, or you may put daimon in the thoran position. In my memory grez dealt a lot of dmg in this chapter
arctic flax
@pale kettle they all just insta die whoevers infront
rigid birch
try brutus
arctic flax
if i put brutus he gets knocked out of the way instantly
and then back corner dies instantly
and bottom side dies instantly too
rigid birch
what do you mean knocked out?
arctic flax
knocked out?
rigid birch
gets knocked out of the way instantly
@arctic flax
arctic flax
he gets picked up and dropped to the botside every time
only for brutus tho
i got super close with 2 remaining
but that was luck. only once.
lucid rivet
Hey guy iam rly new to this. Can u help me with a lineup on my current heroes ? Iam not sure wich one to lvl and keep in the lineup
lucid rivet
maybe this setup ?!
vast meadow
@arctic flax Do daily, get diamonds,and get the fodders to make rowan ascended. Maing rowan durable is important around chap 20. Also Its better to upgrade debuff/CC.characters
@lucid rivet lucretia is really powerful(well she can‘t be upgraded easily tho)
late nacelle
Hello, is there anything I can do to beat this, or improve my current comp?
vast meadow
You have to wipe out saveus with nara chain
late nacelle
I tried all positions, she can only knock down the plant
compact breach
I need help with the 31-28 @pale kettle 😭
foggy grove
What lineup do I run for new trial?
compact breach
Thank you very much, i will try!!
half copper
hey guys it's my first time trying out the abyssal expedition and i wondered if someone could help me with my two team comps i would appreciate any help :)
south cedar
Can u guys give me a good Comp?
raw rune
stuck on mirael again
compact breach
Incredible your solution as always. I didn't know that Thoran worked so well with Talene and Flora. Thank you very much friend@pale kettle
raw rune
cleared
dawn tree
help pls
serene valve
summer wagon
can someone recommend me a good lineup? last stage of trials of god difficulty 32. Problem is rowan and talene are almost dead and twins died last second on the previous stage ok done
compact breach
Thoran is in good position here??
summer wagon
isn't khasos ranged?
stuck trellis
brittle bramble
hey guys, what can i do here, not a Chance
stuck trellis
@eternal totem
ah nvm i see ur 30 already
congrats 
eternal totem
@stuck trellis thanks, it was a real pain but finally did it 
small moth
Ideas please i'am stuck for a long time now
eternal totem
4 hero choices a month with pulls 
small moth
pale kettle
Anyone?
small moth
This is the closer I can get, with brutus alone alive
faint current
Any suggestions to improve this team? Almost at chapter 15 
small moth
@faint current what a troller
faint current
I’m being serious though. 14-37 I’m hoping I can push through to ch15
small moth
I thought that u were at 30-30 so you should know how ti improve maybe
faint current
@small moth It’s an alt account and I got over 100k diamonds saved for stargazer I’m just trying to GET there
@wispy galleon Thats a good question for #classic-questions usually in here is building a 5-man team out of what you already have, even better if it’s a specific stage
wispy galleon
Thanks @faint current I'll delete and move it
deep ice
Pls help
small moth
@faint current oh nice, what would you stargaze ?
faint current
@small moth Zolrath for burst comp
deep ice
Pls help
@deep ice any1
small moth
@faint current aight gl I can't really help you for ur level
faint current
Thanks. Still hoping someone can come up with a better comp for me so I can clear the last 3 stages
small moth
Well I hope so. Could you help me by the way for that ?
faint current
@small moth I’m not great at lineups but I’d take out Talene and try Ferael or Lyca for sure
small moth
alright i'am gonna try
inland egret
or
rosa(blade/call)
-shemira(cant survive- artifact on hp OR if can call)
rowan(call)
-talene(hp)
lucius(hp)
upper nova
Hi everyone, new guy here
My team is Lucretia, Khazard, Wu Kong, Isabella+ and Estrilda.
I pulled from summons Cecilia and I'm wondering if it's worth to add her on the team.
If you think it's worth, who should I replace for here?
raw rune
really stuck on this level, idk how to beat the shields (fawkes dies so quickly) or mirael's strong attacks
brisk ridge
Hey guys, any tips for this one?
crystal peak
@frail dock Try setting up Ainz in left under corner maybe, surround him with damage takers so he can pull his ult off without getting one shot, opponents underside is a healer and a weak tank so try stalling ainz there
im not as far as you but thats my advice, maybe worth a shot
faint current
Any advice? I only need to clear 3 more stages wondering if there’s a better team out there
merry holly
Has anyone completed all of these
autumn pond
How beat? Someone send the map and lineups please
frail dock
@crystal peak will try
mossy ledge
@autumn pond that's a good screenshot
lyric ridge
Damn
autumn pond
Lemma alone I refuse to ss on my other phone xD
mossy ledge
Use this stuff @autumn pond @merry holly
autumn pond
Thanks as :)
merry holly
Thank you
upper nova
Hi everyone, new guy here
[16:57]
My team is Lucretia, Khazard, Wu Kong, Isabella+ and Estrilda.
I pulled from summons Cecilia and I'm wondering if it's worth to add her on the team.
If you think it's worth, who should I replace for here?
ebon root
So have some questions, have a ok lineup. Recently got a brutus and tasi. Was wondering if I should change it up
thick saddle
limpid flume
help with this?
vagrant talon
My team is wu kong, diamon, luciuos, rowan, and the fairy healer im thinking about getting ainz or alberdo who should i get and who should i replace them with.
native wave
#lineup-help message Please?
weak island
Tips? I've messed around with Arden, Pippa, Rosa and Nemora but I can't get past this
native wave
Arden > Tasi
winged solar
Any suggestions?
native wave
Only level up 5 heroes
winged solar
What about team comp
ebon root
use the resonating crystal for all other hero's
sonic remnant
Can I make it with this team?
weak island
Tips? I've messed around with Arden, Pippa, Rosa and Nemora but I can't get past this
hoary frigate
What line up do u need to beat this lol
Just number them from 1 to 10
Been on there for 20m now still can not figure it out
copper leaf
Stage 20-32. Been stuck for 4 days. I cannot seem to bust through, and I dont have the dust to level lucius any higher
native wave
@hoary frigate https://afk.guide/bountiful-trials-event/
hoary frigate
@hoary frigate https://afk.guide/bountiful-trials-event/
@native wave ty ty ty ty
marsh nymph
Help pls, I rlly need that mythic gear
vagrant talon
the British, who had greater numbers and superior training. In two days of fighting, the British lost only 377 men, while the Americans lost 1,407.
shrewd meadow
Would anyone give me a suggestion on what team I should build to progress past 7-40?
oak spruce
I just got belinda, should I use her as my carry instead of wu kong?
pale kettle
I feel like i have alot of support units, can anyone help me out with which ones to use?
I have rosa,pippa,tasi,nemora,rowan,flora
Currently running Wukong/Lucius front line
tacit marsh
native wave
@modest arrow How did you beat 11-16
modest arrow
Spammed it and mythic belinda carried. Prayed for lucuis' to ult once before he died
native wave
Lol
modest arrow
Think I needed everyone to ult once. Tasi sleep was an ez clap
sonic remnant
raw rune
mirael + ogi with the shields and mirael with the huge damage and aoe idk how to beat do i just wait to level up?
sonic remnant
It would have been good to over level one heroes so they can carry
And please only level 5 heroes
Maybe replace Tasi with Lyca or Ainz
How is Mehira doing?
raw rune
hogan?
?? I only have 5 heroes levelled
and I've tried ainz and pippa they both suck at that level
mehira is decent and +30% defense is definitely nice, doesn't kill stuff itself though
native wave
Tbh only underleveled
raw rune
everyone says to have them 20 levels under though
sonic remnant
Nah don't overlevel him
Wukong is better at that stage
You want to wean yourself off of rare heroes soon
In that case, Lyca can help you get an edge
Put her in the middle
Idk if Rowan can survive in front though
But I know he can at ascended
They're fine
My alt cleared it with no problem with one over leveled hero
native wave
20?
sonic remnant
It's best to have as high a level as possible
raw rune
the pin says it
sonic remnant
That says higher
native wave
Lol
sonic remnant
Yes
Prioritize Wukong for now
native wave
Doesn't work in my case ;(
sonic remnant
Hm?
I can show you what I use on my alt though it's mauler centric for a challenge
native wave
11-16?
untold ginkgo
Not sure if i’m underpowered..help?
native wave
sonic remnant
Antandra in place of Lucius and if you really want Athalia, Belinda in place of Nemora
@untold ginkgo have you tried Rowan front line? Keep him near Safiya though
untold ginkgo
Yep i have tried that
rigid birch
@untold ginkgo i think your formation is good enough, need alot of retries tho
untold ginkgo
Lyca would die quick cuz of Athalia
sonic remnant
Yeah meta team is good
Yup you can try that
Who has better gear? Eironn? If so place him where Lyca is
rigid birch
@untold ginkgo lyca doesnt need to live here i think, you need a fat safiya nuke to win
untold ginkgo
All of them have factioned T2 5 stars gears
rigid birch
your formation seems good, i think a ferael can work better than safiya
copper leaf
Hardstuck 20-32. Who should I move into a resonating crystal to clear this level?
untold ginkgo
If I put Ferael in, Tasi could go crazy
subtle inlet
Pls help second one
rigid birch
@untold ginkgo talene is there for healing
silk drift
ebon root
So was wondering if I should swap out hogan and my back row for brutus and the three wilders
royal thorn
Any tips? Been hardstuck for a minute rn
native wave
@sonic remnant Umm Antandra is getting one shot x_x
untold ginkgo
I put in Talene, 4 stars one T2, three T1 faction gears. No dice. Team dies quick
sonic remnant
Dang
Try to upgrade your gear
untold ginkgo
Just got it beat.
native wave
At least at my stage
untold ginkgo
Whew
native wave
Nice
Safiya nukes
@sonic remnant That's the current Antandra do I just collect rewards for a few days?
sonic remnant
Yee couldn't hurt
I forgot what merc do you have?
Also check the store and the guild store for gear
trim cove
Any idea ?
native wave
Umm I thought we aren't suppose to buy gears for dia?
sonic remnant
Talene Santrana
Nara/Ferael/Shem Rowan Shem/Nara
Oh don't touch those lmao
Buy the gold price ones
burnt glade
My ardon can't do shit for some reason
native wave
twin raft
native wave
Gold ones are E/E+ though
sonic remnant
Dang guess you have to wait it out a bit
What's his SI at?
Also do you have the new tank relic?
it's good on him
native wave
Alright time to literally AFK
trim cove
@sonic remnant worked thanks alot
weak island
Tips? I've messed around with Arden, Pippa, Rosa and Nemora but I can't get past this
sonic remnant
Yay!
spare portal
@weak island try putting nemora at the bottom and swap arden for tasi
rigid birch
@untold ginkgo gz
raw rune
should i put arden on crystal or reset one of my heroes when they are lv81 (when 2 enemies can be rooted)?
royal thorn
Any tips? Been stuck about a minute rn
raw rune
current team
hard folio
Stuck at 6-16 need advice
weak island
@hard folio can you post the stage comp?
hard folio
@weak island
weak island
I reccomend levelling Lucius or Saveas as high as possible. If you don't have the essence, like I usually didn't have at that time, try to get a faction boost
Or add another healer, like Pippa
hard folio
Would getting shemira be a good choice
weak island
Not sure as I don't have her, but people say that Daimon's like Shemira but better, so try to get him if you're planning to
hard folio
Ok ty
tall lichen
I could use some help on this one folks. TIA.
weak island
@spare portal By flipping Brutus and Saurus and the flip you recommended, it worked, thanks!
spare portal
nice 😄
oak spruce
Elite+ hogan or elite daimon for main tank?
spare portal
daimon is generally better in backline so hogan
oak spruce
Ok, thanks
upper nova
Please answer my question too 😦
rigid birch
@upper nova send your heroes so we can adjust the formation
upper nova
Guys this is my line up
@upper nova This is the lineup
rigid birch
its not optimal, so i need to see ALL of your heroes so i can see who i can put in
fading kiln
what’s should my firth hero be i don’t really know what’s best
rigid birch
arden
stuck trellis
arden and swap anatandra out for wukong
raw rune
should i just wait to level up for this stage or is there someone i can put in the crystal to help against mirael
fading kiln
i don’t have wukong?
rigid birch
do the share twice when doing a summon or pulling an elite
upper nova
its not optimal, so i need to see ALL of your heroes so i can see who i can put in
@rigid birch Sure I'll send it right away
oak spruce
You can get wu kong free
fading kiln
how
oak spruce
Click share when you get a new hero
fading kiln
k
oak spruce
Twice
upper nova
@rigid birch here it is
mild geyser
Any tips?
haughty furnace
@mild geyser can u help me?
Pls I need help I wanna pass this and I have been stuck for a dat almost 2
Day
crystal peak
Someone help me with a strategy/lineup
slender siren
Need help
lament birch
i tried so many previous winning formations without success :/
mild geyser
@lament birch heard some people used eironn ferael but idk how it works so that’s the limit of my usefulness
@slender siren maybe something like Rowan ezio tasi/lyca Nara daimon or ezio Rowan tasi/lyca Nara daimon
silk drift
slender siren
@slender siren maybe something like Rowan ezio tasi/lyca Nara daimon or ezio Rowan tasi/lyca Nara daimon
@mild geyser thanks
oak spruce
Any lineup suggestions for stage 7-28? I'm thinking I might just be underlevelled cause nothing I try helps
And I think heroes get an ability upgrade at 101 so that might be part of the problem
boreal breach
Need help with this one anyone got any advice
@crystal peak luci,either shim or bel, then rowan, coffin guy and either sheep or fairy
stuck trellis
@lament birch this is obviously kind of overleveled but I used the exact same comp at a lower level and it worked great https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568025210498842633/752411201279098981/image0.png
wet meadow
This is annoying me
brittle bramble
need help,
spare portal
This is annoying me
@wet meadow estrilda, arthus | hendrick, gwyneth, ainz
crystal peak
@boreal breach Thanks it worked when i put Ainz in the comp
hearty swan
what team and debuffs did you guys use for the field of stones trials of gods? im having a hard time this time
boreal breach
@crystal peak happy to help, I kinda forgot about him
raw rune
Once i get lv81 in my supports should i put arden in resonating crystal or reset one and put it in the crystal and level up arden?
royal thorn
Any suggestions? Been stuck here for about a minute
long moat
Been stuck on 9-20 for 2 days now. Any tips?
boreal breach
@queen path luco,red head witch, rose, coffin guy and lady on horse
weak island
Beautiful
nova quest
Does anyone know any good khasos line ups for chapter 29??
valid bobcat
Ayo?
hardy elm
If I should remove or move someone, tell me who.
The idea of the squad is to have very very high sustain and let luceretia carry through having her get a TON of sustain healing.
Everything else is just a bonus.
Debating on having a different frontline but idk what Celestial or Hypogean unit to go for when I get the chance
mild geyser
read pins in #classic-questions. Ur never gonna get enough luc copies to make her viable this early
hardy elm
@mild geyser I checked the pins. Luc isn't the problem with the squad(yet) but I also dont really know what else to run besides her. She's kinda been carrying me.
mild geyser
read the pins it tells u to run mirael/saveas
hardy elm
Sold Mira to the void
robust forum
Does anybody have any thoughts on if/how I can get past here?
hardy elm
Invest in wilders, or suffer
vocal sluice
Wilders in mauler tower 
hardy elm
Oh? Is it? I saw all graveborn and assumed
weak island
Tips? Watched a vid but I can't make it
vocal sluice
Anyways faction advantages don’t matter
hardy elm
Ive been told that, yet nobody can prove why
vocal sluice
The actual hero itself matters much more, for example daimon counters tasi with him being a gb and tasi wilder
hardy elm
Thats not how that works
vocal sluice
Wdym that’s not how it works?
hardy elm
One sec. You have to apply WAAY more to the math than that
abstract coyote
@weak island
Only level up 5 characters. Reset daimon and use the resources to up 5.
mild geyser
y would you need to use math for that?
vocal sluice
you aren’t making very much sense
fervent sluice
Any help with this stage I can’t seem to find a way to beat it, I really wanna unlock stargaze
hardy elm
As the faction advantage works similarly to bane mods in warframe
mild geyser
i played warframe and it does kinda work like that but its not a very big increase overall
weak island
@weak island
Only level up 5 characters. Reset daimon and use the resources to up 5.
@abstract coyote I'm well aware, with all due respect there's no need to push that down at this stage, but it contradicts with the carry over levelling thing
Plus I was testing Diamon for this dtagr
vocal sluice
Faction advantage doesn’t matter because the actual heroes matter much more
warm swan
Hey I remember this guy from yesterday. Still about faction advantage eh
vocal sluice
hardy elm
15% of 1k ~> 1M is a metric shit ton. This same argument popped up in the brave frontier Reddit 3 days ago
vocal sluice
That’s not how it works
hardy elm
It most definitely is. I checked it by my own while doing trials
mild geyser
u look at their skills to see if they counter a hero not their faction
vocal sluice
Actual interactions are much more effective than pure stats
robust forum
Hey Nerds, ignoring Az’ael since he’s loony, did you see anything I could do to change up my team?
hardy elm
Not a loon, but sure
vocal sluice
I’m stuck on that floor too 
, the replay I see has 3/9 tidus and +30 satrana
robust forum
Well shit. None of the replays I have have worked, either haha
vocal sluice
You could try matching warek with kelthur and khasos frontline, just spitballing though
robust forum
Okay, I’ll give it a shot, at least it’s something. Thanks!
vocal sluice
Also tidus is just gonna get destroyed by shemira so he isn’t gonna work
robust forum
Maulers are my weakest team, by far
vocal sluice
Maulers are always the odd one out since no one invests into them
odd flame
robust forum
Well thanks for the advice, I’ll see if I can merc a Santana from someone
mild geyser
@odd flame try
eironn
tasi
lyca
rowan
ferael
graceful coral
help, cant kill a single unit neither one of mine dies
vocal sluice
@odd flame merc better ferael and try this
graceful coral
its the trial event, the fight in the green area, top left corner
vocal sluice
graceful coral
thanks @vocal sluice u save me from agony, I was following a diff guide and I was about to hit a wall
steel mist
could this team let complete chp 15?
dull prairie
autumn raven
Just rolled a bunch of lightbearer scrolls. Any changes I can make or any acesicions I should prioritize?
Here's just the light tab
tawdry frost
Any tips on making a good lineup? Every one I make turns out awful.
pale kettle
oak spruce
Stuck in chapter 7. Any advice?
pale kettle
Any line up ideas? Just trynna mess with some new heroes and formations?
tame plinth
@autumn pond I'd go with saurus, rowan, rosa, lucius and tasi or shem mostly. I used to carry myself with brutus and Shem cuz they were my highest
pale kettle
My team formation right now is
Belinda, luscious, Nemora, rosa and lucretia
odd flame
@vocal sluice rip thanks for the lineup i was so close but got 1v4ed by the brutus
vivid basalt
Stuck in chapter 6. Any advice?
proud edge
@vivid basalt read the pinned beginners guide. You should be overlevelinh one of the early game carries like waking (to 100) or mirael until 160
Any ideas here?
tawdry frost
formal gazelle
Stuck here any help? :/
autumn pond
@tame plinth thank you I'll try it I managed to push through nearly all of chapter 13 with Lucuis estrilda pippa tasi saurus. I learned that Pippa is basically a tasi but better
heady ridge
So I recently got new units. Is there anything I can do to make my lineup better with what I have?
heady ridge
That would make it better?
spare cloud
Who should I link Ainz too i cant decided T_T
vivid basalt
@proud edge okay thanks for the info
autumn pond
I'd be using like a wu daimon Shermira saurus lorsara@heady ridge
heady ridge
@autumn pond okay. Your name reminds me of a character name from K&D. Someone I was in a guild with.
heady ridge
Yeah man
spare cloud
Please help im hung up on this
autumn pond
Pm
tawdry frost
Someone tell me whats wrong with my lineup before I say the n word
formal gazelle
Someone tell me whats wrong with my lineup before I say the n word
@tawdry frost I always get ignored here too dw
wispy trout
can some one help me? I started this game yesterday, and im stuck
tawdry frost
@formal gazelle agony
ocean solar
tropic barn
Any help? Making sure I have the best possible team. All of the other SS on stage info are lvl 450+
nvm i beat it
gentle cargo
Any ideas for a lineup? Running against a wall with talene ezizh rowan nemora and twins
hasty ginkgo
hallow wraith
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363078929105289217/773370662328074270/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363078929105289217/773370700613812244/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363078929105289217/773370718560976936/unknown.png
does anyone know what I should resonate i'm stuck
slate forge
Any advice on who to put in resonating crystal next?
rugged bane
Help?
mild geyser
Any ideas?
autumn pond
deep wren
Who should I swap out for Nara/Gwenyth/Safiya
I’m not having any difficulties with this stage just a general question
pale kettle
often u swap feral out. sometimes lyca depends on stage. @deep wren
haughty furnace
Pls help me I’m stuck
tawdry zephyr
What coild i make my team as a beginner?
haughty furnace
Reset mirael and use them on daimon then use the rest of the lvls back
solemn pollen
what should I focus on? I'm runing Lucius + Lucretia (front), Cecilia, Shemira, Rowan (back). Is this synergy good enough for early game until 120 at least?
gray rune
Hello, I just started yesterday and this is my roster. I'm stuck at 5-20; what's a good team comp?
clear fjord
Been stu k.here since this.morning any jdeas
royal kayak
Help pls thank you
pale kettle
any tips? https://i.imgur.com/KfaE2jI.jpg
rotund hare
Please advise! Trying to finish this chapter
merry holly
Can someone help me can’t beat this level to save my life
bright herald
Not sure how to counter vedan here. He does wayy to much damage
split pasture
Just getting started out, done a couple of rolls with maintenance gems, what would you guys recommend I use? I am planning to purchase Albedo as well.
sly timber
In chapter 7, any ideas?
fading veldt
I'm having trouble with this.... I was told this is the best lineup after a lil research but my Lyca and Fawkes are not close to A... After some retries the best I can get from this is a dead Saveas... I usually use Eironn as my main carry, but since these guys are maulers, he's having a hard time here... I do have M Rowan+30 and L Talene who i use quite a bit as well
balmy vessel
I’m stuck here with an essence wall. Should I use my exp to level up my carry (saveas or mirael better???)
rigid birch
saveas
velvet spruce
I need advice on what 5 i should use with all my heros. Its only my third day. On stage 6. I dont wanna use non meta heros. Please and thank you!
vivid harbor
@velvet spruce You shouldn't ascend characters to legendary, especially if you can't ascend to them Legendary+ immediately. You also only want to level 5 main heroes, and put the rest in your crystal.
velvet spruce
Oh man. Why?
vivid harbor
Because you're wasting your fodder that could be used to ascend other heroes, plus you have to rely on rng to get 2 more copies of the same hero to ascend that hero to Legendary+
lean wedge
What's the best 5 hero currently to use? thanks!
velvet spruce
Damn i get it.. shoot. Well should I just put together a formation with good faction synergy then?
vivid harbor
Safiya is a pretty good carry, but better options exist pre-100
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/763009552844849152/cu3p5c2qhhl51.jpg?width=169&height=300 This guide covers most of the info you'll need
lean wedge
ah, so my lineup will change pretty much after 100?
velvet spruce
Picture is very low res
vivid harbor
just go to #classic-questions and click on the pins. yea, my bad :/. I just copied the link from the pins
lean wedge
Why are we ascending those 5 heroes to L+?
velvet spruce
Thanks dog
vivid harbor
@lean wedge Well it kinda depends on what you pull tbh. But, generally rare heroes are more accessible and you can build them up to legendary+, and later on you can use them as fodder to ascend elite/purple card heroes
pale kettle
?
vivid harbor
@velvet spruce Np
ocean galleon
I've been trying for an hour and can not beat it it's the last one please help
Anyone gonna help?
vivid harbor
send me a pic of the location of the stage plz @ocean galleon
vivid harbor
You can use this team comp. You can thank Volkin games guide for this event, as he was the one that made/exhibited the team comp. @ocean galleon
ocean galleon
It's been sorted someone dmed me help
faint current
@vivid harbor I mean with those heroes I’d use Wukong instead of Rosa...everything else is exactly what I’d use with your box. If I couldn’t pass after a bunch of retries I’d AFK. But someone better skilled than me could probably get you to pass that stage.
vivid harbor
I'll try wukong. Do I put him in rosa's spot? And ok @ocean galleon
faint current
@vivid harbor Id put wukong in Rosa spot. I’m not even able to say if that’s better...I’m not good at this. That’s just what I personally end up doing. I use wukong frontline until he’s level-capped. If he ults he can put in a decent amount of work. If he dies before he ults... I’m not sure if he’s even worth using
vivid harbor
insta death lol
faint current
:/ RIP not worth it then
vivid harbor
I switched him around a few times, but by the time he pops his ult, so does vedan.
faint current
What my alt is using now
vivid harbor
hm, should I go back to a wukong carry? or is mirael better post-100?
faint current
Mirael better.
You physically cannot ascend wukong fast enough to stay as a carry as F2P
vivid harbor
true
faint current
Aiit I gtg to sleep. Sorry I couldn’t help much :/
vivid harbor
it's all g. Gn
silk drift
Help
urban niche
Can talene fill in Lucius' position?
tulip bramble
This one is rough, any ideas?
coarse cradle
@tulip bramble fera instead of nem
tulip bramble
Cool, thanks @coarse cradle
muted stream
Any ideas? Athalia is so damn hard to play around
coarse cradle
Wait is that a trial or something else lol
muted stream
Thats misty valley
random hinge
Been stuck for a bit, would like to move past. Preferably without using merc:
Not yet. +10
somber silo
Help
random hinge
I'm currently focusing on Lucius +20. And Shemira is too useful for me to reset her. Also, I can't 240 Daimon yet. He's only M+
My Lucius is already +18. Not so far, and I can focus on Daimon next
Would you stand by the suggested line up even though Daimon is not A and is only +10?
I mean for passing the stage
I'm asking if you would still recommend me to use Daimon to get past 22-50, even though mine isn't as built as you thought he was.
OK, thanks. I'll go give it a try and report.
Uhhh, lemme check. I don't think so, though
Lyca should be...?
Took a few tries, but I found Lucius to be better than Brutus for my case
This was:
Lyca
Talene
Rowan
Lucius
Daimon
queen path
Kinda stuck atm! Help is appreciated :)
burnt glade
Try Eron middle and gorove front and Lucia's too so when Eron pull them all gorov can jump on them all
queen path
My guys are just 1 hit lol
slim trout
sturdy fractal
So my current team is Mirael, Ainz(linked with Shemira atm), Lucius, Rosaline and Rowan and it's been working ok so far except lack of ascensions, but I'm wondering if there's anything I should take note of. Like do I have a potential better team I'm just not using or any ways I could change my team to make it better? I've kinda just been focusing on lightbearers and then kinda autopiloting, but reading something about lvl 160 shemira got me thinking if there's anything I should consider changing
random hinge
Better to show the stage you're stuck at. I'm sure I speak for the majority when I say that most people promptly forget what enemies are at a stage once they get past it, and even what heroes they used themselves.
random hinge
I usually run Shemira in the front and Rosa in the back
tawdry zephyr
What could i make my lineup as a beginner? Idrk what to have as my frtonline
random hinge
Especially if you have permanently activated Shemira's union, she's not exactly easy to kill. Unless you're running entirely the wrong effects for the challenge, of course.
pale kettle
LOOOL I fully maxed her out thinking she is good smh
That's including the hotel thing full red
stuck trellis
yeah if ur working on her +30 just drop her
she's not worth the investment
random hinge
She is good. Just not for every challenge. This game doesn't have one cookie cutter team.
pale kettle
@stuck trellis wait, ur a girl? i didnt know this whole time lmao
I have level 30 on eiron and safiya
I hope this team works somewhat xd
stuck trellis
@pale kettle no
that was my catfish pfp that I used for the pearl evemt
I'm a guy
stuck trellis
@pale kettle that picture alone got me 10k pearls without me asking anybody
boreal breach
Anyone got any advice for this one
upper nova
Please help me with this line up, I'm still new to the game and have many doubts hahah
queen path
Read the pins ;)
woeful agate
Swap Lucius and Thoran. Move Shemira where Lyca is. If that doesn’t work, consider Tasi
upper nova
@woeful agate can you help me too please? I sent the pic a few messages up
woeful agate
Try moving Rosa to where Belinda is. Move Rowan to the back middle. So back line is Ainz, Rowan, Lyca. Rosa and Abedo is front
upper nova
But that's not my line up... hahahah wait I'll send the pic again
woeful agate
Not sure how your wishlist is, but add Tasi in there if she isn’t. She will make missions like that easier
Oh my bad. I looked at the wrong one
pale kettle
@woeful agate didn't help. Tasi didn't help either. Everyone just designates almost instantly
woeful agate
Ah okay, I see yours. So for now, you just want to take it easy and don’t make too many ranked up heroes. Have a solid base of champs and go up from there and only fodder non ascended champs like hogan and ira
upper nova
Ah okay, I see yours. So for now, you just want to take it easy and don’t make too many ranked up heroes. Have a solid base of champs and go up from there and only fodder non ascended champs like hogan and ira
@woeful agate In fact I wanted to make hogan legendary, just waiting to get the last piece to fodder
woeful agate
@pale kettle are their gears up to par? Gear makes a big difference sometimes. Tasi was a big deal for me in that chapter
Hogan will become useless later since he is fodder later on. You will be able to get more scrolls and pulls done to replace him. But once you increase your pull, your roster will take its shape 🙂
You can try Pippa instead of tasi. They’re kinda similar. But I think she maybe tough to keep alive because of silvina
pale kettle
@woeful agate all of them got at least L gear. Lucius has almost a complete set of M gear. And he's the first one to die
woeful agate
Hm. Try putting Lucius gear on Brutus so he can try to pull some dmg. The key thing is to give your backline enough time to proc the ult abilities
Iirc, my exact comp for that chapter was: Thoran and Brutus/Lucius frontline. Shemira, Rowan and Tasi backline
pale kettle
Hmm will my brutus even live long enough? Being only L and all
woeful agate
He can take some damage, plus he will have an invincibility for a moment
pale kettle
Alright I'll try
scarlet seal
@pale kettle use athalia/nara to counter arden
@upper nova lvl wukong to 100, rest dont matter atm
woeful agate
Agreed with Rainer. If it doesn’t work, you may need to bring a counter like Nara to do the dirty to Arden.
Arden is literally like the worst thing ever. He hurts my soul. Lol
upper nova
@upper nova lvl wukong to 100, rest dont matter atm
@scarlet seal Thank you man
scarlet seal
yeah for shem carry arden is a nightmare, sometimes u cant afford to use a counter so need to rely on rng, @upper nova yw
pale kettle
@woeful agate @scarlet seal
Problem is my Athalia is pathetic rn. And my nara isn't even on rez crystal on top being only elite like athalia
scarlet seal
@pale kettle elite Athalia is fine, she just needs to do her jump at start. If she misses then equip gear
also instead of thoran use rosaline
pale kettle
Aaah I see what happened. Athalia distracts arden long enough so the rest of the team can do its job. And rosa is there to amp up anyone else in there I guess @scarlet seal
Thanks
scarlet seal
you want rosa to follow shemira, yw
tawdry oracle
Hi everybody :)
I know I have a not that good setup, could you guys help me out a bit? Thanks /cc @nocturne bane
nocturne bane
You should try Shemira Thoran / Lyca tasi arden
Arden with his root can save your life but it depends of rngesus
tawdry oracle
@nocturne bane many thanks for the feedback, but I still die like nothing haha
I guess I will stuck here for a long time until I got the pulls I need. :/
Its just interesting how Thorian is a tank but goes down like butter 😛
raw rune
any tips or should I just wait to ascend mirael?
lean wedge
What should my lineup be for pve & pvp?
random hinge
No need to wait to ascend heroes that start blue. Those are only used in actual formations in the early game. After you get to the midgame, you will be using them as ascension fodder for your other heroes(the ones that start purple)
random hinge
Just go ham ascending her. It's not like you can use the fodder needed for her in that many other places
raw rune
yea atm i cant since i cant get anymore gems as this team is weak
gems for the summons i mean
surreal ridge
Any advive ? I cant move on. Thnx
random hinge
Basically everything other than pvp is by definition pve. And there's a lot of different types of pve in this game. So, unfortunately, there's no one formation for all pve. You'll need to be more specific than that, @lean wedge.
lean wedge
I just joined the game today, so i think just a general early-game pve team will do. maybe just for stage farming
random hinge
What works in chapters changes every few stages/chapters. In general, this game is balanced around 1-3-1. 1 tank, 1 dps(generally referred to as the carry), and 3 support heroes. The carry is generally leveled to the max level at its current ascension tier first, before focusing on any of the others. The exact heroes you'll be using depend on the exact challenge in front of you and the heroes you have access to at the time.
chilly plume
I can't get past this
random hinge
That said, there are certain heroes that are very often used, because they fit so many different lineups. These include Lucius(lightbearer tank), Rosaline(lightbearer support), Rowan(lightbearer support/tank(technically not a tank, but he can take more damage than most other support heroes. Almost on par with actual tanks)), Belinda(lightbearer dps, frequent choice for carry), and Talene(Celestial support/dps). There are many others, of course. @lean wedge
random hinge
Not really. Eventually, you will be using heroes from all of the factions.
Lightbearers just happen to have a lot of the more useful heroes.
lean wedge
The only lightbearers i have are belinda, rosaline and estrilda
random hinge
Estrilda also has her time to shine later.
lean wedge
My current lineup is
front - wukong, thoran
back - numisu, belinda, arden
is that the best lineup for me atm?
I mean like, the best currently to get everything to lvl100 and push as far as i can before i start getting better heroes and change
random hinge
Other useful heroes, that are not lightbearers, include Lyca(Wilders), Eironn(Wilders), Brutus(Maulers), Daimon(Graveborn), Shemira(Graveborn), and the celestial twins(sorry, I forget the name. They are, celestials)
nocturne bane
@nocturne bane many thanks for the feedback, but I still die like nothing haha
I guess I will stuck here for a long time until I got the pulls I need. :/
Its just interesting how Thorian is a tank but goes down like butter 😛
@tawdry oracle Well Thoran needs his SI to shine, right now the only cool thing with him is his revive.
Sometimes you just have to afk or smash retry
random hinge
Early on, it is my understanding that arden is good. I wouldn't know. I blitzed past the early game before even looking for this Discord.
rotund hare
Any help here? Trying to finish the chapter! Thanks everyone
lean wedge
Should i use my other blue fodders to up my arden to elite?
random hinge
Sorry, I'm going to have to pass the torch to someone else. Eventually, you will be using arden as ascension fodder for better heroes, at which point you'll be ascending several arden every week, if not every day. But for the time being, I honestly don't know. Like I said, I blitzed past this content. So someone else will have to advise you.
lean wedge
no worries, thanks for your help
tranquil fractal
Does anyone mind telling me a good team comp with these characters
wispy trout
Can some one help me with who should I lvl and which 5 to choose? Plzzwilder wilder wilder
gray schooner
any suggestions for this mission? been on it for 24h (not reaching 10-40 before magical event card end sucked lol)
chilly plume
Nvm I need help with this one
balmy vessel
How do I counter Brutus and bat guy? Seriously annoying haha
gray schooner
try hogan instead of izold
wraith wyvern
Any ideas..
random hinge
@wraith wyvern @balmy vessel your other heroes?
wraith wyvern
balmy vessel
I’m waiting for one spot in my resonating Crystal to cool down
mellow ember
what do you guys think should I make my line up with my current hero pool?
tawdry oracle
@nocturne bane yeah I guess its time to go afk for a while 🙂 thanks for the help
amber badge
Any suggestions?
tawdry oracle
@nocturne bane which one is Thorians SI skill? I have a german setup I cant identify the proper skill haha
low ravine
what do you guys think should I make my line up with my current hero pool?
@mellow ember definetely level up lucius, he is best tank early game
mellow ember
@low ravine ohh thanks mate
scarlet seal
@amber badge use shem carry followed by rosaline, that should do it
amber badge
uh. everyone gets melted basically, rosaline dies instantly
low ravine
im not sure of what comp to make with those heroes, but you should definetely use lucius, belinda and wu kong probably
rosaline and saurus are also really good
scarlet seal
rosaline backline?
mellow ember
I'm actually thinking of putting daimon but I'm afraid that's too much tank in a line up
amber badge
yes
low ravine
daimon is really really good late game
scarlet seal
use her mid so she doesnt get jumped + rowan and talene, also can use a merc, talene for example
amber badge
Ainz is many times better than shemira imo, especially in this particular floor. Ainz is doing 4-8m when his ultimate pops every 20 tries or so
faint current
Please read the pins in #classic-questions there’s a 1-160 beginners guide
low ravine
daimon and eironn are both also pretty good options
mellow ember
oh, so I just reserved him til late game
amber badge
where should I place the rest @scarlet seal ?
scarlet seal
rowan top behind shem, shem front top
mellow ember
thanks much @low ravine
low ravine
np :)
scarlet seal
basically u want rowan and talene to soak the first jumps
wraith wyvern
Any suggestions??
faint current
Ppl in here talking about using Belinda at lvl 80/60 smh
wraith wyvern
low ravine
@mellow ember u should only level up 5 heroes btw, the others you can reset. other than that you're doing pretty good
scarlet seal
this channel is out of hands
faint current
It’s pretty bad yeah
mellow ember
oh thanks again mate really appreciate it
amber badge
@scarlet seal Shemira doesn't do enough damage, rosaline wasn't able to ult once. Ainz is definitely the way to go in terms of damage. I appreciate the help though, gonna try going over it for another hour or so 😭
scarlet seal
@amber badge oke, well at least something works, such hardcore floors are usually done with mercenary
nocturne bane
@nocturne bane which one is Thorians SI skill? I have a german setup I cant identify the proper skill haha
@tawdry oracle He can't die while casting his ultimate once and twice with 30
tawdry oracle
@nocturne bane ah Signature item...oh man Im far away from such things 😦
pale kettle
If anyone has any clue how I can beat this.. https://i.imgur.com/BkvTaGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KJbvsIt.jpg
Stuck here
mild geyser
Any ideas?
autumn raven
Can't seem to beat this no matter the formation. Any suggestions?
haughty heart
Any idea how i can beat this? I don't think i have high enough damage
tawdry frost
Whats the best lineup I can make?
vague timber
I can’t get pass this one
native wave
@vague timber https://afk.guide/bountiful-trials-event
vivid harbor
Should I replace Wukong with Lucius? This is my alt, so I'm trying to avoid using heroes I'm currently using/ have used on my main (at least in terms of carries).
gentle cargo
Any help with this gods trial fight?
eternal raptor
muted stream
Any suggestion? I tried pippa + tasi but pip couldnt ult fast enough
royal thorn
Anyone got tips? been stuck a minute
boreal breach
@royal thorn maybe take out the old guy and maybe try hogar as a tank
boreal breach
Anyone got any advice
royal thorn
@royal thorn maybe take out the old guy and maybe try hogar as a tank
@boreal breach Keep put shemira in the back?
boreal breach
@autumn pond you need to have your carry a much higher level you want him to have like 20 + on the next hero @royal thorn yeah give it a if that fails put phenoix in the back and him up from with shemira
sleek palm
I am so close to 300 could someone help?
scarlet seal
@sleek palm if ur planning on using a merc, then get something like tasi or lyca instead
@sleek palm if u can then ditch lucius and belinda, use lyca, tasi instead
sleek palm
My tasi and lyca are only at legendary but I'll try. Thx!
autumn raven
Seem to be stalling around 8-20 and kings tower 100. Any changes I can make?
pale kettle
hard folio
raw rune
stuck on this, probably gonna have to wait until tomorrow to get the daily gems to ascend mirael if there is nothing i can do here
scarlet seal
@raw rune untill lvl 100 wukong is best carry, use mirael after 100, atm reset her and get wukong to 100
boreal breach
@pale kettle put rose behind bel
hard folio
dawn tide
This guide said that I should use thoran for early game as a tank. But its not tanking as much as my skreg was
scarlet seal
@dawn tide get wukong to lvl 100, others dont matter for now, after that focus mirael carry untill lvl 160
@hard folio same applies to u
hard folio
im already at around level 100 doe
scarlet seal
" after that focus mirael carry untill lvl 160"
dawn tide
Ok. Ill do that then. Should I just focus wukong only in leveling. When should I even start leveling the supports and tanks
scarlet seal
once wukong is lvl 100 u just lvl others, soon u will get 1 hero above 100, which should be mirael
hard folio
should i crystal mirael or reset one of my heroes and replace them
scarlet seal
reset 1 and lvl her up, shes a fodder hero, so when ur at lvl 160 and dont need her anymore, u can feed her into rowan for example
hard folio
is saveas meta not good anymore?
scarlet seal
its fine but mirael works better with wilders/lb meta
hard folio
ok ill replace him then ty
scarlet seal
yw
sharp maple
any ideas 👁️👄👁️
autumn raven
Worth to push mirael? I would use Belinda/Rosa/Gwen.
marsh nymph
Help pls
scarlet seal
@marsh nymph if tasi doesnt die insta, then replace her with eironn
marsh nymph
Ok ill try@scarlet seal
She survives and most last (besides saurus) but then everyone besides tasi and lyca die from athalia ult@scarlet seal
scarlet seal
welcome to afk arena, reposition and spam retry button, switch gear
marsh nymph
Got it I switched saurus and tasi
scarlet seal
gz
paper eagle
Need help to beat this
amber badge
Ummm who is you
pale kettle
Stuck on 7-28 if anyone can help.
Feel like my team just dies to a miracle
raw rune
oh ok thanks @scarlet seal yea wu kong seemed way more consistent
scarlet seal
@raw rune yw but do note that he drops off after lvl 100, only because u dont have enough copies to ascend him
tawdry zephyr
What team shoukd i make as a beginner? Idk what to make my frontline
warm bay
Someone got a lineup for floor 490
fiery crescent
What should I do I have wukong 80
vivid harbor
Any advice? This stage only exists to give me headaches
outer burrow
Any ideas?
raw rune
@scarlet seal do you think it's worth levelling the others up higher than 20 levels behind until i can ascend mirael? because I've gotten stuck
scarlet seal
@raw rune yea ofcourse, reseting costs only 20 diamonds, in the long run when u need to, reset is worth it
vivid harbor
Mirael is trash (not really). But, I hate how she doesn't realign to the enemies when ulting
raw rune
ah ok true ill level then
hoary oxide
hey guys, any idea how to mix this nicely and maybe who to replace Hogan with? Stuck at 8-16
i spent a lot of diamonds trying to find something that works, but it sucks
dark raven
Just started and I’m sure I made mistakes. Who should I focus on and what to use for a team? I only like PVE
raw rune
I'm pretty sure daimon is really good
jolly stump
first, make sure you dont L a hero unless you can L+ him. Next, thane isnt a very good hero to focus on early game so I'd recommend leveling some other carry like saveas or belinda for now
dark raven
Should I reset Thane and use resources on someone else?
jolly stump
for now, probably not since hes the only unit u can take to 140
faint current
@dark raven Dont end up like this
dark raven
What about Nemora vs Numisu as a healer?
faint current
They do very different things. Also Healing only matters for content like Lab/PoT/VoW where hp carries over from battle to battle.
raw rune
huh then how do you stay alive? I rely on rowan
faint current
You start at 100% hp in campaign. You literally just...kill your opponent before they kill you. You don’t specifically use Rowan bc “you need a healer,” you use Rowan Bc he’s OP in general
raw rune
oh ok, I've never seen rowan as op, but i guess healing and giving energy is pretty good
faint current
You can look at lists of meta comps and see TONS don’t have any healers.
visual cape
I need help with this level!!!
faint current
Especially for multibattle since you can’t use Rowan in more than one team at a time
faint current
Here’s one. But btw until chapter 31 you always can use Rowan so no need to stress
visual cape
I’m on chapter ten, what hero’s combo well with Rowan in mid-game?
raw rune
oh i have tasi and skriath
rigid birch
@faint current why tasi? isnt lyca/anoki better here?
faint current
@visual cape Please read the pinned guide in #classic-questions otherwise you’ll be stuck in this situation.
@rigid birch Id assume that since Skriath is grouping them up and eironn is pulling the ENTIRE team (could be wrong haven’t tested this) that Tasi would then teleport and hit ALL enemies reducing ALL their AR and buffing a bunch of nearby allies as well, meanwhile Lyca at best is hitting 2 enemies. But that’s just assumptions. Anoki idk much about.
rigid birch
the 5th slot kinda flexible, anoki increases AR and haste for eironn and tidus, numisu maybe for the taunt, gorvo for the cc chain, maybe even brutus for cleave
faint current
I can see why those could be useful. I’m not at multibattle yet so I’ll have to see
raw rune
any position ideas? this one was close like once
faint current
@raw rune All 3 of your back row prefer to be in the middle. Is Rowan good that early? Maybe put Mirael in middle back and Arden bottom slot where she was? (Maybe Rowan IS good that early idk)
raw rune
uh rowan really helps with healing but 3 potions is never enough obviously
astral pike
Halp :3
raw rune
and the energy also helps sometimes
yeah that really didn't work
arden's roots was even worse with this setup and the ult is always annoying does so much damage to finish stuff off after belinda
mild geyser
@pale kettle maybe try
eironn
tasi
lyca
rowan
ferael
or
eironn
ferael
rowan
tasi
lyca
raw rune
ok cool so the setup i said was close once finally won
now i can get summons ok none of them are useful
idk what to do now since this team is pretty unreliable at this point mirael is still only rare+ so dies way too quickly and no miraels appeared in summons, and I was told not to buy any in the labyrinth
worthy geyser
Any one able to help me with 16-40 here is my roster and the battle.
valid elk
pale kettle
@mild geyser this my champ
mild geyser
oof i dont really know. I just copy and pasted some formations that have worked
pale kettle
Yeah but my champ so noob
stuck trellis
CCing baden is an absolute must have, but letting eironn pull is a bad idea
so u just pull both 🧠
brave oriole
call eironn 😥
mild geyser
I cant really help u with that @pale kettle. Im not close to chapter 29 nor have I built eironn
worthy geyser
Never mind I just tried a comp that came close once over and over and it just worked ... is that unusual?
mild geyser
no. If ur close then u can beat it
worthy geyser
Good to know
random bay
Hi I'm new. Can you help?
mild geyser
read pins in #classic-questions