lineup-help

[astral pike]

@fickle loom I tried a 9/9 si30 ferael and couldn’t get the job done.. so I used talane..

[olive pike]

Any suggestions ?

[stuck trellis]

@astral pike the start of ch 30 seemed super difficult,e verything after the first few stages was much easier
(excluding a few super difficult stages)

[astral pike]

I’m using that exact comp @stuck trellis and they roll me.
Uhhh okay thank you

[stuck trellis]

iirc 30-1, 30-2, 30-4, and 30-12 were super rng

[fickle loom]

you should be fine with just saf and ferael for the most part tho, maybe positioning is the problem?

[astral pike]

I’m following the exact line ups that pipi and others have mentioned

[fickle loom]

i mean in general, not this particular stage :3

[tulip phoenix]

@tulip phoenix i would reccomend just never using talene or nara, and always sticking to the eironn rowan tasi lyca ferael/safiya/daimon format, only putting in nara/athalia for mehira stages
@stuck trellis alright got it. when does talene/Nara come into play in campaign may I ask? 😅

[astral pike]

But I’ll keep at it haha
Not really I mix it up and use erionn front line sometimes to see if that helps and mix lycra and tasi etc

[stuck trellis]

never, until multistage
no seriously though, the natural synergies in the eironn comp are much better than putting a talene in @tulip phoenix
for most cases

im starting to hate safiya now that ive tried daimon out
she feels so rng heavy

[astral pike]

Yeah I’ve noticed that. The erionn comp is always rng heavy and sometimes it irritates the shit outta me

[stuck trellis]

the daimon version is so consistent, its incredible

[astral pike]

Mmm only E+ on that one haha

Almost about to go L+ tho

How tf saf do so much dmg and get still lose haha

Tasi playing w/ my heart strings 😦

[stuck trellis]

tasi and baden in the same stage 🤢 🤮

[astral pike]

Haha yeah, what relic works best on tasi and lycra btw?

[copper leaf]

stuck at 13-36. Am I just going to need to wait for XP and push my carry higher?

[stuck trellis]

@astral pike eye lyca (or grace if she has to tank athalia or smoething) and call tasi

[astral pike]

Ty

[final tangle]

Saw the guides but I don't quite understand what I should do with all of this

[rigid birch]

wow 2 celepogeans that early

[hoary folio]

Need comp, at the door of 22

[cold quest]

help needed here, please. I tried every comp from the subreddit.

[fickle loom]

@cold quest give us something that's working best and maybe we can poke at it lol. how long does your nara last?

@hoary folio focus on grezhul he needs to go down before he summons clones. that means either eironn in front of him or belinda. rowan in the middle of backline should be fine, i'd either put eironn against grez or against the harp guy he scary.

[cold quest]

the merced one. like 5-10 seconds. I think i did best with lyca/rowan safya/nara/eironn. Edit: I did it with the comp mentioned before after like 50 retries. Thank you!

[fickle loom]

@cold quest lmao, gg. it happens xD sometimes you just need to complain about a stage more and the clear happens.

[tulip phoenix]

never, until multistage
no seriously though, the natural synergies in the eironn comp are much better than putting a talene in @tulip phoenix
for most cases
@stuck trellis or at least will wait until I have beefier twins and menhira for campaign then 😁 thank you!

[winter drum]

Any lineup suggestions for this one?

[tulip phoenix]

@winter drum try swapping fawkes Belinda Lucius for hendrick estrilda and Gwyneth

[tawdry grotto]

hmm too undered level for this stage?

[queen path]

Stuck at 8-8 I have 5 reso crystal slots free

Eironn almost L+ aswell

Only need epic arden and 1 eironn

10 faction cards waiting for me tomorrow

[dry bay]

is shimera good without acention

[round citrus]

Yes

[dry bay]

im at level 37

and have an legendary blinda

[round citrus]

Shes not a lategame carry tho i did built her and cant play her anymore (chapter 25) did use her to get past 24 tho

[spice mantle]

Is lyca better than any of my two supports? Lucretia is currently working as some kind of tank/carry if you are wondering

[round citrus]

Lyca for ogi

[tulip phoenix]

@dry bay daimon is “probably” better than shemira even at early game but I can’t be sure

[dry bay]

anf put erinon at front

[round citrus]

Eironn+lucretia frontline

[spice mantle]

I see eironn behind all the time

[round citrus]

Daimon is way better than shemira. He does incredible dmg also lategame

[spice mantle]

Is that a mistake people do?

[dry bay]

so is a legendary blinda bette than base shimera at early game

[round citrus]

It depends on the enemie setup

@spice mantle

[dry bay]

so should i go with shimeria or blinda

[spice mantle]

What do you mean by that qtex?

[round citrus]

When you tryna pull a hero out the corners of the backline to burst him down eironn can be set in the backline aswell

@dry bay neither it think

[dry bay]

why

[spice mantle]

Ill try frontline eironn then

[round citrus]

Show me ur heroes

[dry bay]

should i go with mireal than

fine

[mild geyser]

Any tips?

[round citrus]

Upgrade rowan hes essential for so many comps, also put him frontrow

[dry bay]

there you go

[round citrus]

Id go eironn arden nemora lyca and maybd mireal

[dry bay]

isnt erion ad early game

[round citrus]

Rowan and tasi when you get them

I dont know havent played him early but i dont think hes weak

Lyca,eironn,tasi,ferael,rowan is the comp iam currently playing

[fickle fractal]

How good is this for a starting team? Just started and given all the starter rewards, wondering if I should restart or not. Any advice?

[dry bay]

nsane rng bro

[round citrus]

Its very good

[dry bay]

tasi and cyca of bat man that insane

[round citrus]

Upgrade wukong via labyrinth store up to ascended

[fickle fractal]

Oh for real? Ik the dual chick is cool

[dry bay]

and lucius

[fickle fractal]

Oo okok gotcha, the tier list I was looking at is bad then LOL

[round citrus]

U can use twins abit

[dry bay]

omg

[round citrus]

Feel free to Dm me for advice toasty

[fickle fractal]

Oh ok for sure!

[dry bay]

bro give me some . of that luck pls

[fickle fractal]

LOL

Is it really that crazy?

[dry bay]

bro you dont understand youre set

[round citrus]

Haha got lucretia aswell you can play her and twins until a certain point

[fickle fractal]

For sure? I don’t need Shemira?

[dry bay]

yeah she is better tha wukong early game

[round citrus]

Shemira is kinda oldschool but shes a great early-midgame carry

[fickle fractal]

Ohh ok icic

[fickle fractal]

So for now, focus on monkey man? Then who after would u say? Also what should my current team be?

[dry bay]

i would still get shimeria with that set up

[round citrus]

Monkey man via lab store

[dry bay]

unless you pull more good chopies

[fickle fractal]

Mmm ok gotcha

[dry bay]

nah hes going to get more copies in long term for shimeria

[fickle fractal]

My luck is so whack too, two double elite Multics in a row O.o, one with double Tasi LOL

[round citrus]

LOL

[fickle fractal]

I didn’t know they were good so I kinda disregarded it but holy LOL

[drowsy lark]

Anyone I should change around? Currently stuck at 8-8

[plush pike]

Need help for team lineup, stuck at early ch7

[hoary folio]

Need help please

[round citrus]

@hoary folio try shemira rosa rowan eironn and ezio?

[hoary folio]

@round citrus What order ?

and artifacts ?`

[frigid sparrow]

Hi guys! So I started again and used up all the codes and used the summon scrolls. What should be my lineup for the story?

[upbeat fossil]

Need help with KT 438...

[digital echo]

@frigid sparrow You should use the monkey, the girl in bandages, zaphreal, the knight and the bird

[frigid sparrow]

Ohhh thank you very much!

[digital echo]

Np, but it’s my opinion so it might not be much

[upbeat fossil]

@frigid sparrow best to read the pinned messages in #classic-questions, they're your guides

[frigid sparrow]

Ahh ayt ayt. I'll do that too and cross compare for reference.

[spice mantle]

Thoughts on replacing lucretia with thoran? I could crystal him to level 41 soon

And lucretia's gear would go to lyca

[digital echo]

Keep luctretia for now until stage 6-7, and during that upgrade thoran. She isn’t good there if she is not elite+ or has legendary tier gear

[spice mantle]

Upgrade thoran the regular way, not with the crystal?

[digital echo]

Yea

[spice mantle]

Gotcha. Who do you usually run in the crystal? Your off factions maybe?

[digital echo]

I put a variety of factional characters, incase I need them for a mission

[spice mantle]

I see. I'll have to move lyca away from that at one point then

[winter drum]

@pale kettle it worked. Thanks

[spice mantle]

Right now I'm stuck on this mission though, so I'll probably level the supports to 61

Or eironn to 81

[frigid sparrow]

@frigid sparrow best to read the pinned messages in #classic-questions, they're your guides
@upbeat fossil So I just checked and saw that the monkey is a carry and the knight is a tank. What are the support heroes in the pic?

[digital echo]

@spice mantle I don’t recommend do that as it takes a long time for them to use their ultimate and I recommend you take the middle character in your lineup off the crystals cause she is op at the early game when she is at lvl 100

[brittle bramble]

is Eironn comp good for this? i died in 10 secs.

[fickle loom]

might as well try LB comp while you're there lol, lucius - rosaline | tasi/fawkes - rowan - belinda

[tawny tartan]

Any chars I should focus on?

[fickle loom]

also kind of awkward you're not using your most leveled character lol, but i guess spending 20 diamonds at this point feels meh so idk, i guess you could just wait till everyone's 240 i guess. close enough.

@tawny tartan generic hero building goes to #classic-questions , but also read the pins there first that's what guides are for.

[tawny tartan]

Aight

[runic flint]

Is it ever worth to run 2 tanks?

[marsh frigate]

Any recommendations for who to level up

[runic flint]

Get everyone in crystal to 81 so you can continue leveling Wukong

[fickle loom]

sometimes, yeah. if the enemy team has a lot of on entry-early bursts like estrilda/gorvo or your damage takes a long time to build up, then sometimes you're gonna need two tanks, or one main tank and a minor tank with some CC/damage. most characters aren't plain tanks endgame anyway, everyone will have their skill sets that may come in handy against certain enemy types.

[runic flint]

Im still early game and debating whether lucius > E+ Hogan

[marsh frigate]

How do I even get more lucreta cards tho

[runic flint]

@fickle loom should I stick with 1 tank then?

[marsh frigate]

Can I pull em or is there a special place for it

[spice mantle]

People told me I'd have to spend like 500€ to build her so I assume there's a place to draw her at one point

[fickle loom]

@marsh frigate wrong place for generic questions
@runic flint for the most part you should be only using one main tank, yes. or even no tank at all. but again, depends on stage, no simple answer to your question.

[spice mantle]

Or at least have a chance to

[fickle loom]

well i'm not gonna answer here cause you guys are asking in the wrong chat, so.

[spice mantle]

The question is here now, you may as well have answered it while you were at it tbh

[runic flint]

I imagine he's heard the same overall questions a dozen times so, makes sense

[upbeat fossil]

So I just checked and saw that the monkey is a carry and the knight is a tank. What are the support heroes in the pic?
@frigid sparrow
Rowan Rosaline Fawkes
Lyca Tasi Arden

[warm girder]

Someone can help me with this stage or in general ? Should i start now to shift focus on Eironn as a Carry instead of Shemira ?

I also have enough essence to put another hero lvl 220 or soon rowan 240

[tawdry grotto]

Can someone assist me with this stage... kinda getting wiped in 10s..

[indigo stream]

Idk what to do here, got stuck real hard

[tawdry grotto]

hmm does the nemora actually help o.o

[fickle fractal]

How’s this for a starting line up? Could be better?

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle 31-02 maybe?

thanks I should push saf🤣

[warm girder]

How do you check the stages you beat already again @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

to low power with m+ saf

[warm girder]

Ohh, makes sense. Thank you

[pale kettle]

what should I pull?

[warm girder]

Someone can help me with this one ? I got enough essences to make another hero level 220 or soon enough to make Rowan 240.

[uncut parrot]

What should I switch around

[solid goblet]

Read #classic-questions pins

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle well close. ill give it more tries thanks

[uncut parrot]

Read #classic-questions pins
@solid goblet that didnt help, I've already read it

[solid goblet]

A lot of the game is waiting. There isn't much you can change right this second.

[uncut parrot]

I know, but I can reset heroes to get back xp so I can always switch something around

[solid goblet]

1: you have no one in crystal. 2: you haven't provided what stage you're on, so we have no idea what your needs are. Just fill out wishlist close to the guide and afk for my resources.

[uncut parrot]

7-40

I'm stuck there

[solid goblet]

You should be building the fodder heroes like the guide says. To push level cap. Then put main team in crystal

[pale kettle]

if someone could give me a hand with this i would be really thankful

[woven adder]

so should i switch to another carry like mirael or stick with eironn i can do L to a wilder hero, is it worth first L for eironn? my lineup is eironn lucius rowan nemora and monkey/saurus

[torn axle]

How am I supposed to beat this?? :(

[red gull]

any sugestions for this one ?

[forest dirge]

@red gull I frontlined Saf on that stage, hang on let me find the ss

[red gull]

goddamn, first try, thanks a lot @forest dirge

[tawdry grotto]

need help... am i under leveled?

this is what i have to work with

[bitter rose]

Have you tried moving shemira bottom? There is also brutus if you can move him into your crystal if hogan is dying too fast.

[tawdry grotto]

actually all of them are dying fast.. i'm trying to unlock another slot in my crystal to put brutus in

[bitter rose]

The level difference shouldn't be too bad. I'd consider moving one hero out of the crystal if it's taking too long. Brutus has been a staple for me. When he gets to 141 he lasts about 7 seconds compared to 4.

[tawny seal]

What team should I do

[tawdry grotto]

also thinking which heroes to up to mythic nxt.. got 6 lucius, 5 rowan

[bitter rose]

Rowan. His SI is op. Basically at max SI you get 400 free energy. It's why people suggest him first.

[tawny seal]

oops sorry it told me it didn't send

[bitter rose]

@tawdry grotto have you tried lyca instead of rosa? This was around the time I was having issues with making her work.

[tawdry grotto]

hmm i think i made a mistake of leveling shemira's SI ..

[bitter rose]

It's fine if it's only at 10 or so.

[tawdry grotto]

how would u position if i r eplace rosa with lyca

[bitter rose]

Have her in the place where she takes damage rather than arden and rowan. Her only job is to haste your team. You might want to have rowan under shemira to hord all the health potions to herself and live long enough to kill everyone.

[tawdry grotto]

that mireal is sniping my shemira when she's at around 30% health lol

[bitter rose]

What artifact do you use on shemira?

[tawdry grotto]

eye

[bitter rose]

Maybe call would be better.

[tawdry grotto]

eye on arden? lol

[bitter rose]

Probably lyca if she doesn't instantly die to squeeze out a little more damage from her. Call just matters because shemira needs to gain energy fast.

[bitter rose]

Move rowan to the bottom and try it.

[mild geyser]

Any tips?

[uncut parrot]

What characters should I swap

[solid goblet]

Pins

[uncut parrot]

They dont help in this situation, I need specific help for what characters I should switch around with the characters I own

[bitter rose]

You shouldl be working on leveling fodder units because they're easier to level up and ascend. Wukong is normally used at this stage because he's really strong at carrying by himself.

[uncut parrot]

Who should I switch him for

[bitter rose]

Raine.

[tawdry grotto]

@bitter rose 50 attempts. got raped :3

guess i should farm more dust to get them to 141 first.

[bitter rose]

It's a hard level if I remember correctly. But when you moved people around did you move equipment?

[grave sparrow]

Need to replace ulmus on my main team with a different wilder hero, any good ones that would fit in well to wishlist/look out for

Im thinking saurus or goro

[bitter rose]

I wouldn't worry about what faction early this game but saurus is a way better choice than goro.

[tawdry grotto]

ROAR stupid stage -.-

[marsh nymph]

Help pls

[faint current]

@grave sparrow Tasi/Eironn/Lyca/Saurus for sure

@marsh nymph Did you try Lucius/Shemira/Daimon/Lyca/Arden? Idk if it’ll work but it might 🤷‍♂️

[mild geyser]

Any tips? Niru is Tanky boi

[karmic crown]

Ladies and gents I'm stuck. Not enough power to brute force my way through the current stage. Suggestions? Roster and Line up should be on the message.

[pale kettle]

any ideas?

[fair crag]

Just unlocked the resonating Crystal so realise I need to focus on 5 units. Which 5 should I be focussing on first for now?

[fickle loom]

Any kt 477 comps besides the one I’m retrying?

[robust gull]

Any advice?

Idk if my current team comp is good or if I should revise it

[karmic crown]

Completely stumped. Unsure who to make my line-up at this point between early-mid game.

[pure rapids]

Help lol

[crude wasp]

Y'all should really look through some codes. You'll get like a bonus 100 characters

[pure rapids]

I did already this is what it got me

[robust gull]

codes?

Oh for like free gems? Already did that

[dense trout]

@fair crag when it comes to the crystal, level up ur 5 highest ascended heros bc they have a higher level cap and will be able to boost other heros past their level cap

eventually u will want 5 ascended heros in ther because they go to level 240 then even characters that have a level cap of 180 will be level 240

[fair crag]

Thank you

[onyx pollen]

I wanna die...

[covert bridge]

Im running two healers but I wanna incorporate daimon somehow

[onyx pollen]

Please I need help

[pale kettle]

Help me

[rustic oxide]

Current team : Lucius Daimon Tasi Mirael Rosalina.

Is this a good set up or should I be making changes?

[worldly wharf]

Can someone help me with positioning. This is only team I can use otherwise I am power capped

[queen path]

hard stuck 8-8 whos my carry? can lvl to 120

[onyx pollen]

There are more people scream Help What people help us

[queen path]

im getting the e+ belinda in 2 days

[maiden marsh]

Stuck here for a hot sec, any advice?

[rocky nimbus]

Anyone have any tips for this stage? I’m just starting to be familiar with CC.. Obviously need some back line CC.. I tried Fawkes, Arden, and Tasi but none of them seem to get there CC off in time for this stage. Any suggestions/line up changes?

[lyric leaf]

Any formation I could scramble from my units?

[forest dirge]

goddamn, first try, thanks a lot @forest dirge
@red gull you're welcome! sorry, didn't see the tag at first. I have the rest of 30 and all of 31 as well if you need any other stages.

[rare umbra]

Help help please please

[heady ridge]

Hello I'm new to the game. Is it possible that I can get help with a team for the units I have at the moment.

[pure rapids]

Could someone help me out?

[swift bloom]

I've tried lots of things but I finally got stuck :3

[lucid wigeon]

Guess I might as well get in line lol. And suggestions?

[torn magnet]

Thinking about changing Brutus to savaeus and tasi to lyka any thoughts? (I also might change shemira cause I can’t get anymore copies 🙃)

I need one more Lucius copy to get him to L+ btw

[runic flint]

Can i beat this?

[heady ridge]

So here are the units I have at the moment. Any help with forming a line up for general fights would be appreciated or the best possible team to make with what I have.

[pure rapids]

Just buy shemira in lab

[cosmic swallow]

Here are all my Units that i have? Someone want to help my by my team xD?

[karmic crown]

Legit getting one-shot at this point by stray 45k Crits every time. Repeated the stage 50 times. It's like beating my skull into a wall.

[lucid wigeon]

@heady ridge Lucius, Fawks, Zaphreal all are pretty good heroes as far as I've played. You might wanna check out the pins in here and the questions channel for general help with heroes

[heady ridge]

Okay thank @lucid wigeon

[karmic crown]

Worst part is, my Brutus keeps getting his invincibility instant procced at the start of battle.

[lucid wigeon]

@cosmic swallow Rosaline, Fawks, Rowan are great heroes. Rowan especially is a great support. Nemora is a decent healer, if you need her.

[lyric leaf]

@karmic crown then wait a day or two, the game is called AFK for a reason

[karmic crown]

So... It's not that my comp is hot, sweaty garbage but the fact I legit have no XP

[lyric leaf]

Well, maulers are the worst in the game rn, but on your stage it doesn't matter anyway

[karmic crown]

Think they'll get a buff soon if they're that bad, then? I thought Safiya was one of the best carries.

[lyric leaf]

Yes, singular maulers in the teams are good

[cosmic swallow]

ok and satrana? Is she good? I love her design and her ability ;c

[lyric leaf]

But they suck as the team, its been like that for a while

[lucid wigeon]

You could try throwing your Belinda into the backline, if you haven't already. Maybe she can brute force it /shrug

@cosmic swallow I think Satrana is average / above average. I'm not super knowledgeable bout her specifically.

[karmic crown]

Hmmmm I see. Well, as you can see I have a Mythic Belinda, and can make Safiya Mythic... I've tried with Belinda she gets one shot by the assassin. It's ridiculous tbh. Everyone's getting 1 shot even Saveas, like he took 45k damage in a hit out of nowhere.

[heady ridge]

So I tried asking #lineup-help and #classic-questions but I had no luck with helping me with a team.

[lyric leaf]

@cosmic swallow satrana is good while ascended with +30 si, while she's not the highest in the line to +30, so she's average

[cosmic swallow]

Ok but i can use her? Or should i reset her an give the level a other unit?

@cosmic swallow satrana is good while ascended with +30 si, while she's not the highest in the line to +30, so she's average
@lyric leaf oh ok thanks!

[lyric leaf]

She's a good front line mage/tank tho if you use her against roughly same lvl units in pve

[lucid wigeon]

I think you're fine to keep leveling her.

[halcyon schooner]

What is a better team out of these? I'm at a block now.

[lyric leaf]

Afk is your a answer

[cosmic swallow]

ok thanks! and i have a last question hehe Can i get the skin for the twins or is it to late about the time?

[lyric leaf]

You're on such low stages that brute force of XP will give you best boost

[lucid wigeon]

@heady ridge
Lucius, Wu Kong
Fawks, Rowan, Zaphreal
THat should do you well. Feel free to experiment and play around, though! Your hypo characters might be good to flex in depending on the stage

[lyric leaf]

@cosmic swallow there were 90 coins to get for f2p, roughly 10 coins a day

[lucid wigeon]

I think it's only 60 coins for the skin.

[lyric leaf]

Yes, but f2p gets 90 overall

[lucid wigeon]

Oh ye. My bad, I skimmed over the f2p

[karmic crown]

Will the Overlord units be Lab units or will they be tavern exclusive?

[heady ridge]

@lucid wigeon Thank you.

[cosmic swallow]

can i get more if i pay?

[karmic crown]

Yup you can buy tickets in the store

[cosmic swallow]

Where? lul?

[karmic crown]

For the magic hat dude merchant store daily things

[lucid wigeon]

It's in the daily deals package

[lyric leaf]

@cosmic swallow daily deals give you cards, you can use those to get coins

[dreamy depot]

Hey, I'm currently in chapter 15 and using Belinda, Eironn, Rowan, Rosalina and Lucius. Should I use something else?

[queen path]

anyone online for advice?

[lucid wigeon]

I might be able to help!

[queen path]

stuck at 8-8 atm can lvl a carry to 120

appreciated

[lucid wigeon]

Could you screenshot the battle screen so I can see the enemies?

[queen path]

v

[rare umbra]

Help anyone??

[solid goblet]

@rare umbra you have 3 tanks and two supports. You need a carry. Put nara on saveas, put Brutus where hogan is, and put in mirael

[lucid wigeon]

Thanks @queen path ! It looks like you haven't put anyone on your resonating crystal, so I'd recommend that. You'll have more heroes leveled up. Wu and Gwyn, for example, are great heroes to have on hand. For this fight, I'd recommend this lineup:
Lucius Wu
Lyca, Rosalina, Saurus

[rare umbra]

@solid goblet where should I put mirael??

[woven adder]

@queen path i won something like this not sure tho

[solid goblet]

Lucius, Brutus, mirael, Rowan, nara to start. You might need to rng if that silvina keeps killing your backline too fast

[pale kettle]

stuck at 15-37

[solid goblet]

@pale kettle you have two belindas passed e+. Reset the legendary one. And stop making L heroes if you can't make them L+

[fickle fractal]

Whats more valuable to roll on a new acc, twins? or rowan?

[solid goblet]

#classic-questions but rerolls matter little for long term gain

[queen path]

@woven adder i had eiron at 120 and i cant win

[rare umbra]

@solid goblet saveas annihilates Nara and then the rest of the team

[deep ice]

What should i do

[woven adder]

hmm not sure then, think lucius need to survive pop shield then nemora heals and eiron will do the job you can add me and check how i did it , ID: 108267262 @queen path

[deep ice]

What should i do
@deep ice pls help me

??

[velvet chasm]

Your question is very vague

And probably belongs in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

@solid goblet i revert belinda,it didnt help me much tho

why not ascned hero if icant make them l+,they help me progress

[lucid wigeon]

Any suggestions for this? Or do I just need to level up more?

[narrow raptor]

Bit stuck any help?

[queen path]

@woven adder @lucid wigeon beat it, went back to eiron and got my lucious to 100

[lucid wigeon]

Grats!

[crude wasp]

Jesus christ how fuckin far are yall

[lilac agate]

Who

[queen path]

i would go all out on lucretia

[faint current]

I’d go all out on Wukong

[lethal flume]

how can i beat 15-40 with these champs ?

[queen path]

listen to the guy with a colored name 😂

[faint current]

Idk much about Lucretia, maybe she’s broken early game also. But I know for SURE wukong is insane early game so that’s why I suggest him

[solid goblet]

@pale kettle sorry for late reply. Im at work lol. You need to sacrifice other heroes to ascend your heroes, however if you ascended tons of heroes, you'll lock yourself to tons of lower ascension heroes instead of beefing up a select few. That hurts your level cap and slow progression significantly.

[queen path]

Lucretia carried me to 8

would still use her but dont have cards to ascend :D

she did my first baloon mission the last 50% solo lol

[faint current]

Shemira/Lucius/Rosa/nemora/.....Saveas or Skriath? @lethal flume

[modest arrow]

@faint current so focus wukong then? I heard he falls off 100 too so not lvl him past that.

I thought I should focus shemira since I already got 2 copies without labrynith . Idk her early game Carry potentiallytho

[lethal flume]

Shemira/Lucius/Rosa/nemora/.....Saveas or Skriath? @lethal flume
@faint current nope 😦 it didn't worked

[faint current]

Shemira is generally bad 1-160

How close was it? Can you show video? @lethal flume

[lethal flume]

How close was it? Can you show video? @lethal flume
@faint current it took 5 sec to end xD

[faint current]

Oof

That seems like a big gap also

@lethal flume Btw the ascension and leveling choices you’re making are causing you to be hard level capped. You could ask for advice in #classic-questions for what to do in the future.

[lethal flume]

@faint current thank you!

[faint current]

Of course

[pale kettle]

If someone could give me a hand with this i would be really thankful 👉 👈

[lilac agate]

@pale kettle try Lucius and Rowan front row, and erion namora and Lyca in the back

Put your powerful gear on them

[indigo stream]

This one is a real headache, tried everything I could think of

[lilac agate]

Use tasi instead of lyca? @indigo stream

[indigo stream]

Still die right as shemira gets her ult off, no one else has time to do much

[silk temple]

Any recommendations on what to use as a new player? And on which heroes to focus on?

[grand perch]

Hello @silk temple,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[lilac agate]

Probably best to wait and level up more cuz if you’re struggling here u will struggle harder next stages

Try and get Lucius and Rowan @silk temple those two plus Belinda will help u through early game

Work on shemira too from lab store

[rare umbra]

Help please

[queen path]

tank as highest lvl? 🤔

[lusty shale]

Any tips for 30-10?

[fallen spire]

Anyone able to beat this for me? Its part of the Mistey Valley, and I need some to complete it for me.

[round hedge]

Anybody know what my best team would look like among this? I know from a guide that I've got several good people for late game but I'm at the end of Chapter 7 and stuck.

[rustic oxide]

How can I beat this level?

[hidden kraken]

Hey can i get some help here

[wheat silo]

I'm having trouble beating this stage, what should I do?

[versed cedar]

@wheat silo Do you have any characters on the Resonating Crystal?

[sick notch]

May I ask some advice on my team? I usually go with brutus, saveas, antarda, daimon and shemira.

But a few hours ago i pulled lucius, should I build something around him?

[wheat silo]

@wheat silo Do you have any characters on the Resonating Crystal?
@versed cedar yes, Safiya

[pale kettle]

Any tips im stuck

[olive pike]

@sick notch lucius is an amazing tank, I'd reccomend building him.

[pale kettle]

Mehira just destroys me

[spiral gate]

@sick notch In my opinion, you shouldn't because you don't have enough Lightbearer heroes to get a faction bonus. Judging from your lineup, I would try Wu Kong and Brutus as your frontliners. For your backliners, try Safiya, the character to the left of Safiya, and Shemira.

[olive pike]

What is a faction bonus?@spiral gate

[spiral gate]

A faction bonus is a power up that you get from matching at least 3 characters with the same faction.

[olive pike]

How do you check that ?

[spiral gate]

What I did was start a battle, and at the top left, there's these.. rhombuses. There's 5 rhombuses total.

That's the best way i can describe it since I don't know what the name for that icon actually is.

[vocal sluice]

Faction bonuses are completely pointless btw, better to have an actual good team

@sick notch just overlevel wukong and just whatever, and read the pins in #classic-questions

@pale kettle if you don’t merc a Nara for mehira prepare for a rough time

[spiral gate]

If that's the case, then I'd use Lucius and Brutus as frontliners. Safiya and Nemora and that character to the left of Safiya as backliners

[sick notch]

oki doki, sorry for the trouble ;___;

and thanks for the advice

[clever jackal]

How?

[vocal sluice]

Anti heal, like ferael, satrana, or torne, or just outright blow them up with safiya

[clever jackal]

My saf doesn't do enough damage

[vocal sluice]

Merc a better one

[round hedge]

Anybody know the best PvE team I could make from this at my level? I know I have some decent people for later on, but no idea what's best at this level

[vocal sluice]

Now is around the time you switch to mirael/saveas carry, reset wukong for whoever you pick and level them (make sure mirael/saveas is e+ though), and read the pins in #classic-questions

[clever jackal]

Merc a better one
@vocal sluice who is that

[vocal sluice]

I just said merc a better safiya, as in hire one as a mercenary

[clever jackal]

Like from a friend?

[vocal sluice]

Yes

[clever jackal]

All my friends gave them away already

[vocal sluice]

Then find someone who has one, or just use the other option of anti heal

[velvet chasm]

Any suggestions for 20-12? I feel like I'm close sometimes (when Ferael gets charmed) but also like I'm not even close at all

[hidden kraken]

Somebody some idea? Holy hell chapter 28 sucks

[modest arrow]

I'm new and just did many summons. Who should I focus on now?

[mild geyser]

@modest arrow read pins in #classic-questions

[vocal sluice]

@hidden kraken use Nara on mehira if you don’t wanna go insane

[hidden kraken]

Tried it so many times

[sleek ingot]

Any tips on what should i do? Started the game two days ago and i'm stuggling a little bit bcs the lack of damage...

[hidden kraken]

And if not mehira than safia shits on my team

[edgy jungle]

Any suggestions on how I should proceed?

[hidden kraken]

@vocal sluice already got insane on previus mehira stages this is just iceing on the cake.

@edgy jungle start to build shemira shes in labstore in the meanwhile use saveas hes good in early game

[edgy jungle]

Sweet, thank you Szájimon. How about the other S tiers in the guide, Tasi and Izold?

[real charm]

Should I use Wu Kong or buy Shemira for a carry?

[pale kettle]

someone help me with a lineup please. dm me thanks!

[olive pike]

Is there any way I can beat this?

[high pivot]

swap numisu for rosaline and try from there

if not swap anoki for tasi as well

[real charm]

@high pivot would you mind giving me a suggestion?

[olive pike]

My heroes dont survive long enough @high pivot

Should I swap my relics to certain heroes?

[hidden kraken]

@edgy jungle izold needs heavy investment to work tasi is good but not necesery in progress for mid and early.

[pale kettle]

First picture or second picture for a good layout.

[olive pike]

Try them both

[upper agate]

Wich one i should focus on lv up to 81 first?

[sonic scroll]

Safi

[high pivot]

@real charm wukong can basically solo anything upto chapter 6 then you'll want to build either saveas or mirael as your carry and they'll get foddered off later on.

@olive pike how did the fight go did the enemy team just run your team over did you kill anyone what's happening?

[real charm]

I just got to ch 6 and got roadblocked.
I guess I'll build up Saveas and, in the meantime, unlock Shemira

[sonic scroll]

Don't buy Shem

[real charm]

Why?

[sonic scroll]

She falls off very hard, there's much better choices to buy or you'll stunt your progress

[real charm]

Ok

Is Saveas going to be enough as a carry?

[high pivot]

Shem is fine it really depends on who you pull in the early game. Like for example if you pull several belindas don't build shem, but shem does carry a large portion of the mid game

[sonic scroll]

Saveas is fine, you can use him as fodder too

You can use shem but don't buy her from the store

[real charm]

What strategy do you suggest?

[high pivot]

@real charm Saveas carries until around chapter 12-13 you'll need to invest in a midgame carry at that point, the only reason why i wouldn't buy shem from the store currently is because we're going to be getting two dimensionals quite soon.

[hidden kraken]

@sonic scroll she doesnt fall that hard anymore but you know what is funny in this game? You can swap teams later on

[high pivot]

Fed i can give you an example of what I'm planning to do for progression if that could help you out, but ultimately it depends on what you pull.

[sonic scroll]

@hidden kraken can you provide proof that she doesn't fall off?

[real charm]

Go on @high pivot. I'm very interested

[hidden kraken]

Nup bc you know i swapped teams when she fell? Oh and btw you know that shes used in twisted?

[high pivot]

I did saveas up until ch 11 using lucius with 3 supports then transitioned into a belinda carry with rosa/rowan/lyca subbing lucius out every now and then. I'm currently at ch 22 but belinda is starting to fall off so i'm going to transition into a gwyn comp since i have a few units already ready for it.

[sonic scroll]

She's used for nemora but to buy her in the store just for one twisted realm boss when there much better options is just bad advice

[hidden kraken]

I dont want to be a dick but basicly what you said is like dont build talene becuse she cant carry early so she doesnt worth it

[high pivot]

I will def say building shemira is worthwhile. Even if you don't use her for every fight she's still ultimately gonna be used for dimensional fodder linking.

[sonic scroll]

That's because you'll always be at endgame at a point, early game is temporary

[hidden kraken]

Yea who should you get from the store? Thoran? Late game cheese hero wukong? Pvp only khasos? Not that good

I mean arthur is good but you can get him much later

[sonic scroll]

I'm saying you can build her but not to buy from challenger store, I'm sure everyone chapter 30+ will agree with me

[high pivot]

You say play for late game but you have to remember you need to progress through the early/midgame to get there. You'll have 100s of pulls on the way to endgame and hopefully you'll have a plan for a comp to build going there.

[real charm]

Yes, but I have to get from ch.6 to ch.30 first

[hidden kraken]

My 2 month to chapter 24 disagree and i already had the eironn team complete

[sonic scroll]

Endgame is a much harder barrier to pass

You'll regret buying shem from the store later on

[mild geyser]

Any tips?

[hidden kraken]

Yea shure i have 3 complete team ready and 79 lvl gap at chapter 28

[sonic scroll]

I'm on chapter 31 and I don't even use Shem in faction towers anymore

Wukong is the best option in store, there are so many other ways to get shem such as faction summons/select summons

[hidden kraken]

But why in the 9 hells would someone want a pvp hero as a f2p?

[real charm]

So should I just go WuKong and Saveas as my main damage dealers?

[high pivot]

I've personally bought 2 shemiras from the store and I wish I knew about the Shem/Belinda mid game split cause I would of personally never built Shemira. But those 90k points i lost out on aren't the end of the world for me at best it's a set back.

Wukong is abysmal in the midgame he only really comes back in the late game segment @real charm either way you should be holding all coins until we know they aren't used on the new dimensionals coming.

[real charm]

The difference between Saveas and Semira, from my understanding, is that the first, being single target, cannot carry me as much as Shem can

[sonic scroll]

@hidden kraken can you please validate your opinions on this with other veteran players in this discord, you'll see the consensus with late game players is definitely not yours, please don't give new players bad advice

[real charm]

Well, if the collab heroes have a chance of being in the lab store, I'm definitely not spending any coin

[high pivot]

The thing you're misunderstanding about saveas vs shemira. Is saveas is a dedicated early game unit. He caps out at 160. Whereas Shemira really starts to turn on at 161+. And since Saveas is a legendary tier unit he's safe to use as fodder for an ascended tier mauler. Shemira/Belinda are typically recommended for the midgame portion because they trivialize a lot of the fights from chapter 13 to around 22-24. (Doesn't mean there aren't fights they get walled on though), but they don't scale into late game (chapter 26 onwards) that well.

[sonic scroll]

I'm not saying not to use shem, just to not buy her in the lab store

[real charm]

Ok, that makes sense

[high pivot]

There have been strats that players who are currently endgame buy shemira as their midgame carry while investing in graveborns or wilders with factionals instead of lightbearers because they scale better into late game.

[hidden kraken]

Mate lets close this discussion we are running in circles. Sorry if i came off as rude didnt slept for a day uni exams and shit. Night guys

[sonic scroll]

Daimon is a much better carry that is graveborn and he scales extremely well for late game, but yeah I'll agree to disagree for now

[vocal sluice]

Buy shemira if you have absolutely no other option, her merit is that she’s very easy to obtain

[hidden kraken]

Atliest we can agree on smt and yes you are 100% right on daimon :D

[prime drift]

Anyone have any ideas ? I really need to get through this to finish the chapter

[keen ledge]

any recommendations ? would appreciate it

[prime drift]

1. Hogan
2. Shemira
3. Arden
4. Lucius
5. Rosaline
   That's my best guess, hope it helps (replace Lucius with Saveas if needed)

@keen ledge

[eternal totem]

@prime drift you need athalia/nara on mehira

[prime drift]

I'll try that, thanks

[eternal totem]

@prime drift iirc:
Eironn
-Rowan
Nara/athalia
-Tasi
Lyca

[prime drift]

You are looking at my heroes right? I don't have tasi or Lyca at a high enough level, thanks for the advice tho

@eternal totem

[eternal totem]

Well, you are very overleved for that stage. You can also try:
Gwyn
-Eironn
Nara
-Rowan
Tasi (as long as she vanishes someone doesn't matter ascension)

@prime drift

[prime drift]

Didn't work. My Nara is too weak, and I was pretty sure I'm underleveled.

[eternal totem]

Nah bro, I'm level 290 and 29-4

[pearl zinc]

303 is leveled enough to clear 30 🙂

[eternal totem]

@pearl zinc help me out with his comp, idk what more can I say about that stage

[prime drift]

Maybe I leveled the wrong heroes, if I had my mercenaries itd be fine.

[pearl zinc]

just dm'd you my solution

[eternal totem]

Yeah, at least eironn and rowan should be +30 at your level

[prime drift]

I'm building them now

I just got Rowan up to mythic/ascended

[eternal totem]

Also if you have Gwyn that busted you need arthur/estrilda and rosa

[thorn canyon]

Hello I am new and I keep on getting stuck, can I get some tips and tricks? I've been playing for 3 days

Also when should I spend my diamonds? I have no idea lol

[simple grotto]

You should use diamonds for summoning heroes

And about your team, you can try having Brutus and Hogan in front, Saveas in back. However, you should summon more first, rn you have less choice for yout team

[thorn canyon]

So I should just spend all of my diamonds on summons?

And should I restart all of my heroes then so I can upgrade others?

I'd be glad to talk in dm's so I can see when you message me haha, I am very bad at remembering where I said something, so I usually reply after hours lol

[wet pawn]

I’m on 13-8 with Graveborn enemies.. Should I swap in my Saveas for Mirael with Rowan Rosa Fawkes and Lucius?

[pliant flume]

I'm having a very difficult time with this stage.

[wild sphinx]

Getting smashed hard ok 29-59. Any tips?

[faint pine]

10-19 enemy overleveled Saveas is a destroyer of worlds. What kinds of heroes do I need to put onto my Resonating Crystal to try and counter him? Tasi isn't enough.

[bitter rose]

You need an early game carry. Brutus could by you some time but he won't buy you the most time until 141.

[quasi hare]

Im new to the game is this a good line up? (New is 3 days btw)

Or should i trade Ira for something else

[bitter rose]

I would look at the beginner advice in the pins. Also, kelfur isn't a tank and neither is lucretia. Not at this stage of the game. You want hogan up front.

[pliant flume]

OK I swapped in daimon into my formation but no progress

[pale kettle]

Any advices on how to beat that?

[bitter rose]

Oblivion if I remember correctly you'll want Mireal un the top or bottom where ever zapheal jumps to in order to have them both team up on one side and deal with the other side. The vedan is a high priority target so you might want mireal bottom to kill him.

[quasi hare]

I would look at the beginner advice in the pins. Also, kelfur isn't a tank and neither is lucretia. Not at this stage of the game. You want hogan up front.
mk thx

[naive quail]

What os the best PvE team i can make?

[bitter rose]

The pins in the questions section helps more.

[pliant flume]

I'm not motivated enough to look at pins lol

[thorn canyon]

I checked the pins but I am unsure if I should reset all of my heroes and do the lineup like it says

Because I've got most of the heroes I need from what the beginner's guide says

[scarlet cloud]

I need help I have been stuck on this all day

[barren river]

Any suggestion? Ive been using damion belinda roseline tasi mezoth, but got some nice new units for a lightbearers or gravedigger comp... Any suggestion for a comp that could carry me? (Attaching screenshot(

[mortal crypt]

I keep getting pounded here, any tips?

[faint pine]

That looks like a level gap issue tbh. 25 levels means a lot more at lower levels than higher ones

[mortal crypt]

I was told not to level my supports

[faint current]

@faint pine His carry is lvl 100

[mortal crypt]

@faint current any tips tho?

[faint pine]

"Don't level your supports" has a limit... if they die before ultimates start popping off, a +15 level carry isn't going to last 1v5 at only 100

[faint current]

Get more levels. Honestly though he IS right

[faint pine]

It's not like a 161 Shemira against 130-140 teams

[mortal crypt]

Ah ok

[faint current]

Since your Mirael is level 100 capped and your supports don’t have a lot of abilities unlocked.

[mortal crypt]

I'll get them leveled then ig

[faint pine]

Also yeah at THAT low level "supports" don't even have all the abilities that make them effectively... support

[mortal crypt]

Good hero choices and placement tho?

[faint pine]

You need 81 for the fourth skill I think?

[mortal crypt]

61

[faint current]

Honestly I wouldn’t use Lucretia. Try another support like oh idk Arden and take him to lvl 81

At lvl 81 Arden basically keeps 2 enemies from doing anything most of the fight

[mortal crypt]

I was just using her for the massive def buff

[faint pine]

Disregard, but it is a true fact that often a level stepup can vastly change the nature of a support. For example, 121 Nemora's gains the ability to not only heal but shield allies, which dramatically spikes her effectiveness

Not that you should level Nemora to 121 ASAP above your carry, but it's something to keep in mind

[faint current]

Oh hypo buff. That’s true that is pretty handy

[mortal crypt]

I was referring to the lamb or fawkes cause I'm not sure which is better

[faint current]

At this level (81+) ? Arden over both but for now at 61 probably Fawkes

[faint pine]

Nemora and Fawkes do very different things, and yeah, early on, Arden works better

[olive pike]

I cant beat 11-20 any advice ?

[timid crescent]

Should i switch Rowan to rosaline

[pale kettle]

help plz 😄

@wet pawn dont need to change carries, just afk a bit and you can beat the stage

Hi, as you can see i am pretty new. My current team is Hogan, Zaphrael, Nimisu, Mirael, and Ira. I saved enough Labyrinth currency to buy one of the characters from the store. I was thinking of buying either Estrilda or Shemira. I feel like my team needs a good damage dealer like Estrilda, but i hear that Shemira is really good aswell. Any help would be appreciated.

I am once again in need of assistance. This is not ok

Kaz pretty much disintegrates anything put before her

The rest of the team follows shortly after

[dim trench]

Should i change something ??

I have a few elites but i dont know what they do/which are the best so my lineup is pretty random

[tight yacht]

What should I be working on?

[white dew]

Help

[sly cobalt]

Help? Been stuck for a while

[stark dagger]

Anybody with a lineup for kt 365...

[hard river]

can someone help me-? im stuck on 5-36

[sonic herald]

Would appreciate any help choosing who to what to level up. Thanks

[fallow totem]

Shemira @sonic herald

She is your carry, unless you want to reset her and choose Wu Kong as your carry

I want both a Campaign lineup and a PVP lineup. I know that Rowan can go with any team so I plan to use him, but I also have access to a few tanks and a few carries.

As well as some few good support/backline heroes

Whoever responds, if you could @ me, that would be appreciated so I see the message

[reef edge]

This i my current lineup and an extra hero idk who to get rid of

[fallow totem]

Um I think his name is Thane

He is one of the most niche heroes

@reef edge use Shemira, level her up 20 to 40 levels above the rest of your team

And use gorvo as your second frontline with Lucius

[reef edge]

Okay

[fallow totem]

Rowan and Belinda are A-okay

So your team would be

Back / Front

Shemira/Lucius
Rowan
Belinda/Gorvo

[reef edge]

Okay thank you

If i get wu kong use him instead of shemira?

[balmy vessel]

Hi im a new player

How’s this lineup? Should I swap Arden for wukong

[terse lintel]

Didn't know you had belinda that high,
Lucius, belinda, rosalyn, rowan, and a arden would be a good start out

[reef edge]

Okay

@terse lintel but who should i put in the front

i know lucius probably he looks tanky but idk who else

[high pivot]

Any tips?

[cunning marlin]

Needing help on who to replace my Lucretia and Ezizh with since they are capped at lv100 rn

I'm using the 3 yellows rn

[torpid bison]

be careful building too many legendaries that you can't get to l+ immediately, it ties up your fodder

I'd probably make a couple l+ fodder heroes, saveas and ira maybe based on your list @cunning marlin

[cunning marlin]

Yeah I just read the guide about not trying to L the same factions too early

I got Tasi and Brutus to L+ now

[frigid sparrow]

How do you have so much epic heroes :O

[zinc plover]

Hey I'm having trouble with 3-20 any advice for it

[high pivot]

@zinc plover use wukong he solo carries until chapter 6. You can get wukong by just sharing to fb

[graceful coral]

I'll never beat this til I ascend my heroes right?

[high pivot]

You're way further than i am for sure lol

[molten idol]

So i struggle with teambuilding can anyone help me figure out a good set

[terse lintel]

@reef edge sorry

Arden

Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Rosalyn

[hollow dragon]

Need help here

[mystic geode]

Any recommendations for this boy @ me if responding

[barren badge]

This stage feels quite literally impossible, shemira's first basic crits 99% and one shots with isabella joining in.

[pale kettle]

What should I do

[mystic geode]

Help please

[barren badge]

@mystic geode nara should probably be mid to prevent nemora from healing/charming.
You can try using putting gwyneth mid and wukong instead of lucius

[mystic geode]

I swapped nara and Roseline and put in wukong instead of Roseline and got it

Wukong was getting shredded by isabelle so I had to run lucius there just to live

Having trouble here now

[pale kettle]

would this work? @devout path

[mystic geode]

If you want specifics I'm being decimated in like 3 seconds by the bottom 2 (specifically kaz)

[balmy vessel]

I’m stuck on 4-36 😦

[brittle bramble]

hey guys, any ideas ? it does not work with this list

[charred ermine]

@brittle bramble

Try
Rosa
Lucius
Thoran
Shem
Fawkes

[neat light]

Need help

[brittle bramble]

@charred ermine Ty

[upbeat steeple]

https://gyazo.com/45d36a941c777ee70046d9205c362e7f who should i use 6-35 campaign

[zinc plover]

If I wanted ranged heroes how many would be good and what r the best ones

[weak thunder]

im on the verge of a cruel dilemma again. If I lvl my crystal im afraid ill get left behind in TR but if i dont, i'll get powercapped. Any hero aside lyca that might help me? I want to save my merc for 29-54 or 60

This stage feels quite literally impossible, shemira's first basic crits 99% and one shots with isabella joining in.
@barren badge oh lol we're at the same stage

this is my roster

[barren badge]

@weak thunder I tried running brutus to tank both shemira and isabele because he's the weakest so she's hitting him

[balmy vessel]

How do I beat 4-36?? Haha

[wanton plank]

Suggestions?

[amber badge]

Halp please 😦

[fallow totem]

Brutus isn’t meta anymore @amber badge

And you aren’t running a single tank from what I can tell

[upbeat steeple]

@fallow totem can u help me https://gyazo.com/45d36a941c777ee70046d9205c362e7f

[fallow totem]

What would you like help with?

[upbeat steeple]

a team for campaign

[fallow totem]

Level Shemira to 100 then keep her 20 to 40 levels above the rest of your team

[upbeat steeple]

who else do i use in the team

i also have https://gyazo.com/465b71179dc8125c1a4d18fa7f7fc9da

[summer wagon]

i need help on trials of god difficulty 40 last battle

[fallow totem]

Nova

[upbeat steeple]

?

[fallow totem]

Would you rather be prepared for mid - early game or only want to focus only early game?

[upbeat steeple]

pre mid

[fallow totem]

Early - Mid game I would take Daimon out of that chest

The forsaken trap is great above 160

But is also a great carry in early game

[terse lintel]

Id take wukong for his carry if he has copy of daimon already

[fallow totem]

If you’re gonna use Daimon, make him your carry and don’t level up Shemira. If you are gonna use Shemira do this

Back / Front

Shemira/Estrilda
Lucretia
Gwyneth/Lucius

[upbeat steeple]

i have wu kong already

[fallow totem]

You could get a copy to get him up a tier

[terse lintel]

Shemira is outdated as early carry

[fallow totem]

I never planned to use Wu Kong and don’t even like him

I know she is, but NoVa’s options aren’t the most extensive

And she is already leveled up quite a bit for early game

[limber palm]

Yo

[terse lintel]

Well I'm just saying if it wasn't for the upcoming heroes I'd go daimon and get wukong or shemira out of lab but that would only hurt him

[fallow totem]

Upcoming heroes?

[terse lintel]

Overlord crossover heros Ainz and Albedo

[fallow totem]

Aren’t the Re:Zero knock offs relatively new?

[terse lintel]

New release and limited time

[fallow totem]

How long is the event gonna be?

[terse lintel]

Month or 2 I think

[fallow totem]

I’m assuming it’ll be easier for the late game players to get

[terse lintel]

I got ezio easy as I began playing cause of him, should be able to get least one easy, idk bout both

[fallow totem]

Okay

I started at release and was compelled, but never could keep my drive going for AFK Arena, but recently, I haven’t been able to put it down

[terse lintel]

Alot of improvements since release

[fallow totem]

When I redownloaded it the other day, I saw the twins and was like, “Oh look Ram and Rem”

Obviously Ram is better than Rem, so I am dedicated to get them for that reason

[amber badge]

Daxyii you mentioned brutus wasn’t meta anymore nor was I running a tank. That’s why I was asking help for a formation, I don’t really have any other dudes that’ll last any time so I use brutus—he at least stays alive for 10 seconds

Lucius will be ascended once I get enough food but even then he’s pretty booty

[fallow totem]

@terse lintel are the twins frontline or backline?

[terse lintel]

Depends on your heroes but mostly back as they link the 2 front heroes atk

[fallow totem]

They can go in any spot, right?

[terse lintel]

Aye

[fallow totem]

Okay, does he have any frontline worthy heroes that you see? Maybe Sauras, he isn’t the greatest, but with his options...

[terse lintel]

@amber badge I used brutus as my tank all the way to chapter 20

[fallow totem]

I mean, estrilda could also work there :/

She is used a lot, but sometimes overrated by people who think with their dick

[terse lintel]

Depends on the heroes, saurus and estrilda in front for guild boss or saurus and rosalyn with estrilda in back

Along with like twins and rowan

[fallow totem]

Yeah

I was gonna say almost that kelanori

[terse lintel]

Who you have depends on the place of twins

[fallow totem]

@amber badge follow what @terse lintel said

[steep stag]

Hi all, i m trying to do a good build team but i m Lost, i m stuck. Someone can help me please ? 🥺

[fallow totem]

Sure, I’ll help ya! Mainly for campaign? @steep stag

[steep stag]

Of course @fallow totem ^^

[fallow totem]

Okay

[steep stag]

I don't know who choose to be damage dealer.

[terse lintel]

Id replace talene with twins and let bel and brutus up front

[fallow totem]

With your current levels run this

Backline

Lucretia, Tasi, and Gwyneth

Frontline

Lucius and Sauras

@steep stag

[wanton plank]

Suggestions?

[fallow totem]

Cry... @wanton plank for I can not help with that late game knowledge

[steep stag]

Okay Daxy, i will try this compo ! Thx a lot 🥰

[fallow totem]

No worries, if you need help, don’t be afraid to ask in here @steep stag other people can help besides me too

[steep stag]

thx

[amber badge]

@terse lintel twins get killed instantly regardless of placement. Pretty much everyone dies quickly

[fallow totem]

Underleveled

[wanton plank]

@fallow totem thats one thing I can do haha

[fallow totem]

That’s your issue, go afk for a few days and just level your heroes up a bit @amber badge

[wanton plank]

Its only stage blocking me from 40 red emblems

[fallow totem]

@wanton plank if I could help I would, but I know very late game you can just kinda throw random stuff together and it can work

[terse lintel]

Behind brutus?

[amber badge]

Yeah, they all die dummy fast.

[fallow totem]

Cause you’re under leveled

[fallow totem]

Hard carries can only hard carry for so far

[wanton plank]

Well it worked now

[fallow totem]

Did you just throw random shit together like I suggested?

[terse lintel]

Oh nvm I see the lineup you are against, brutal

[fallow totem]

@amber badge sometimes, you have to take the game slow

There are roadblocks/bottlenecks in these kind of games that affect almost every type of player

[amber badge]

Yeah :/ shemira gets taken down by the dude even if I remove equipment so she never is able to pop

Faux or however you spell it

[terse lintel]

Could try talene in middle back to counter athalia maybe but that fawkes is gonna screw ya

[wanton plank]

@fallow totem no I used same comp like was in pic, but needed many tries

[fallow totem]

Sometimes that happens

One time I switched two backline heroes positions and wiped after I did that... I cried afterwards

[amber badge]

Yeah :/ oh well. Thanks anyways @terse lintel 💕

[terse lintel]

At this point I'm hoping your doing wilder faction pulls @amber badge

[fallow totem]

me over here, not getting any thanks, but doesn’t mind because I am helping, but still crying

[amber badge]

Yessir, just started on them, my luck with everyone besides tasi has been booty

[terse lintel]

What's your wilder wishlist

[fallow totem]

Mine?

[terse lintel]

Jund

[fallow totem]

Dude, Tasi is OP, what do you mean @amber badge

She is literally one of the best in the game

[terse lintel]

I see he has L+ solise and probably had better choice if she is on wishlist

[amber badge]

Just swapped tasi out with the turtle dude thing

[fallow totem]

Don’t do that

[amber badge]

Solise has never been on my wishlist ;-; she’s just regular L, I was noob in the beginning

[fallow totem]

Tasi is really good and Gorvo does not even compare to her and can’t compare to a bit of tanks in the game

[terse lintel]

86 Loran and keep tasi and hope you have enough copies of nemora

[amber badge]

Yeah my wilders is are suck, will do tho

[fallow totem]

Jund, for your sake, please just try to get copies of Tasi

She is really fucking op

[terse lintel]

Lorsan has niche uses but alot less compare to the others, Gorvo is more for faction tower progress and less so in campaign

[amber badge]

Oh okay. I knew he was used somewhat late game but I wasn’t sure for what. I know his +30 or 9/9 or something makes him use his ultimate at the beginning for eiron to survive

[fresh bloom]

Help
Stage 27-30
I want to slap enemy team

[fallow totem]

You’re under leveled @fresh bloom

You won’t be able to “slap” them

[fresh bloom]

Other people says me that I'm over leveled XD

What level I need?

[fallow totem]

Over leveled?

You’re 50 levels below your enemy, in what world is that over leveled

[fresh bloom]

They say that I should be in chapter 28 or even 30 XD

[random fiber]

overleveled, it's just wrong heroes being built, 290 crystal should be ch29-30

[terse lintel]

@amber badge that's more for pvp, pve less so

[fallow totem]

Use Rowan too

[fresh bloom]

Oooo
I understand know

[fallow totem]

He fits everywhere and anywhere

Here try this @fresh bloom

Backline:

Gwyneth, Rowan, and Belinda

Frontline:

Daimon and Skreg

That may work, it may not. But from my intuition and knowledge, that is most likely what I would run

[fresh bloom]

Ok, thanks! I will try

[barren badge]

Still stuck over here

[dusky hazel]

Is this the proper setup? Currently diamond I and wondering if I can get legend with a better one

[barren badge]

Maybe switch relics grez/war @dusky hazel

[fallow totem]

Avi, Rowan does not go in frontline

[dusky hazel]

I gave grez blade and the damage I did was way less. Like over 3 mil

[fallow totem]

Avi, for your backline try and run Rowan, Twins, and Tasi

And for frontline try orthos and Mezoth

@barren badge ^ try that

[barren badge]

On it

[fallow totem]

Tell me how it works @barren badge

[barren badge]

Not good my orthos is e+ and mezoth is only e, and I'm not sure who's the carry here, tasi?

I gave them my best gear and they still can't tank enough

[dusky hazel]

What's your best gear? O:

[fallow totem]

My fault, I didn’t pay attention to ascension level

[barren badge]

T2 on mezoth and t1 on orthos

[fallow totem]

Okay keep Twins and Rowan

Use Nara with Rowan and Twins

Try Lucius

And Arthur

So Nara, Twins, and Rowan in back and Lucius and Arthur in Front

@barren badge

Try Nara as your carry

She can do a lot of work and is top tier

[barren badge]

Had some progress with this comp, going to run some tries and will tag you when I'll try yours

[fallow totem]

Alright

[unreal trout]

ive checked tier lists etc but tbh im not that far into comps yet, im currently running brut,ox guy, lucretia, voodoo guy and egyptian whamen

[fallow totem]

These names 🤣

[unreal trout]

i meannnnn XD

[grave sapphire]

Hi folks, looking for some arena help. I just started playing so I typically don't fight above my level, but usually when I do get beaten by someone lower than me they're using daimon. How do I counter him, whether as an attacker or defender? Every comp I see with him regularly is capable of defeating upwards of 50k deficits.

[fallow totem]

Well, Daimon is a very OP carry and hero in general

[grave sapphire]

Seems like it

[fallow totem]

Try running Nemora against it

I don’t have an entire fix for it but can do some digging

@terse lintel

What’s a good Daimon counter?

[unreal trout]

i like ox guy's boar attack

first they get yeeted to the side and then knocked up, meanwhile tyhe others do damage

[fallow totem]

smh

[unreal trout]

just givin ideas

[fallow totem]

I’m gonna send you to a dungeon without anything to protect yourself

[unreal trout]

mate im a demon, you're locking them up with ME

[lofty swift]

So luscious, nemora, tasi, and shemira I've seen are already pretty decent but what should my focus be currently? Anything from shop I could grind to get or any general advise on heroes to focus on with what I have/will get in the future?

Any advise is much appreciated

[fallow totem]

Skreg

[barren badge]

@fallow totem got it, twins didn't do enoguh so I tried lots of heroes, brutus was definitely the play because no other char could survive the lightning+shemira basic.
Farael brought the cc and stalled shemira from ulting

[halcyon schooner]

Which one should I buy?

[fallow totem]

What level is your team?

[halcyon schooner]

Mine?

[fallow totem]

Yes

[fallow totem]

Also are you using Wu Kong as a carry or do you have a suitable tank?

Get Skreg and replace Brutus, that is what I would do

[halcyon schooner]

Is there a different team all together i should do?

[fallow totem]

No not really, unless you want a healer

If you do, get rid of Lucius and bring in Nemora

[lofty swift]

@fallow totem why skreg over estrilda/antadra? Will I need his kit later?

[pale kettle]

what end game team should i go for?

[lofty swift]

Lucius is for sure going to keep a spot for a while from what I know and have seen from him

[fallow totem]

To be honest

[lofty swift]

Great frontliner

[fallow totem]

Lucius is Niche

[lofty swift]

O?

[pale kettle]

nah, for early game lucius is rly good as a tank

[halcyon schooner]

So I can do this.. should I?

[fallow totem]

Skreg is more of a top tier tank

[lofty swift]

Ic

[fallow totem]

If you are okay with getting rid of that Lucius copy, Yes

[pale kettle]

@halcyon schooner DO NOT FODDER BRUTUS

[halcyon schooner]

Lol

[fallow totem]

I mean

[pale kettle]

also

[fallow totem]

Brutus can be foddered

[halcyon schooner]

What is he specifically good for.

[fallow totem]

He won’t be missing that much :/

Brutus is mostly only good early game

He is not ideal for Mid to Late game

[halcyon schooner]

I also think I chose the wrong person from the light or dark choice

[fallow totem]

You can get both

[halcyon schooner]

From regular pulls, or is there a normal way?

[fallow totem]

Regular pulls I believe

My guild mate got it from a reg pull, at least that is what he said

[halcyon schooner]

Yeah but if I choose before, I'd have it

[rare umbra]

Help please

[fallow totem]

Sorry, my advice sucks, got told by other people here. Sorry @rare umbra

[terse lintel]

@rare umbra for starters you are spreading yourself too thin on your heroes for upgrading. Don't upgrade a hero to legendary unless it can be taken to legendary+ right after.

2nd only level 5 heroes, leveling the green plant would be a waste of resources.

[fallow totem]

Hey Kelanori, can you check your dm? I have a more, out of this chat question

[terse lintel]

And 3 go with brutus and lucius in front, rowan mid back, rosalyn and mirael in back far as I can tell

[thin burrow]

Can anyone give me an idea of how to beat 11-38?

[high pivot]

Post your lineup and avail units @thin burrow

[thin burrow]

yeh soz was slow mode. Ive only just started using the wilder trio since 11-34 when i looked on reddit for help with that one

Before that I was prettymuch using the top 5

well i mean it helped me lol...

[pale kettle]

oh wait, was what i said bad?

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle plz stay on topic thanks

[pale kettle]

oh ok

[violet igloo]

@thin burrow use Lyca instead of Arden, also Arden is best to use at lvl 141 since he can root 3 targets

I would also replace Lucius with Brutus. So that would make :

Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

[thin burrow]

yeh unfortuntely im stuckf or exp and dust so cant 141 them :(. So the wilder trio is not arden its lyca?

[violet igloo]

I would advise to either focus on LB or wilder, both are good. If you get nemora tasi lyca to L+ you have very solid lineup

[thin burrow]

ok cool thanks

[high pivot]

I would personally try
Lucius
Tasi
Arden
Shem/belinda
Nemora

A lot of people forget lucius from backline gets a free stun

And you want nemora to charm estrilda to make her charge her teammates

[thin burrow]

@violet igloo Do you think I should think about sacrificing my arden then to get nim tasi or lyca higher?

[pale kettle]

dont think u should have 3 damage characters on a single team @pale kettle
you should instead have one damage, 1 tank and 3 supports

[high pivot]

@thin burrow arden is quite useful even after your minimum level is past 160 i would hold onto him for awhile.

[thin burrow]

yeh i heard that just dont have any other fodder atm haha

[violet igloo]

@thin burrow you can use him as fodder, wait until you can put tasi or lyca to L+ straight away

[pale kettle]

1. you shouldnt get characters to legendary without getting them to legendary+ @pale kettle

belinda
rowan
lyca
rosaline
estrilda

[violet igloo]

you can use arden later even if he's E or E+, i wouldn't worry too much.

[thin burrow]

ok. I guess i can always just make more of him pretty easy when i need him

[ebon pilot]

is it good? what can i do with that

[high pivot]

@thin burrow i can def say afk arena is a marathon not a sprint. It sucks but sometimes you'll be stuck for days if not weeks on fights waiting for resources.

[thin burrow]

@violet igloo with my current line up do you think I should mythic nemora first or wait to get tasi or lyca before that. Nemora can pretty much be done pretty soon but the others will take a while

[violet igloo]

yes it's perfectly normal to be stuck 🙂 it's part of the game

@thin burrow i would do others to L+

focus M+ on shemira, and LB rowan rosa lucius

[thin burrow]

is mythic not that important?

[high pivot]

@ebon pilot solid start for sure i would use mirael as my main carry paired with safiya as a backup/psuedo buffer. With tasi brutus and wukong filling the other slots (you can get wukong by sharing a new hero or going to union and sharing from there)

[pale kettle]

@ebon pilot one thing to note, only level up your top 5 heroes, spreading ur exp is not good

it effectively makes your roster weaker

[high pivot]

@thin burrow mythic is important as it unlocks signature items. But ranking up to mythic won't let you magically beat something. Typically if it's not your carry going to mythic you probs won't beat the stage.

[ebon pilot]

ok thank you 😊

[thin burrow]

@high pivot ah ok thanks

i got belina to mythic but cant afford the sig lol

[high pivot]

Her si is very lackluster sadly

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle brutus, tasi, mirael, arden (you should start investing in him), eironn

[thin burrow]

when does brutus start falling off?

only got him at L (didnt know the L+ rules back then)

[ebon pilot]

but @high pivot i don't really like mirael, she's not doing enough dammage

[violet igloo]

ok @ebon pilot you have done a big mistake so far, you have leveld 10 heroes instead of 5. You're wasting huge amounts of XP.

go to ricket cart and reset 5 hereos.

Keep Mirael as high level as possible, you'll see she'll do amazing damage.

[high pivot]

The reason why mirael feels weak is because she's low level early game the only other character that does more damage than her is saveas honestly.

[violet igloo]

And then do this :

Safiya
Brutus
Mirael
Skreg
Tasi

Make sure that Mirael is 40 levels higher than other heroes. @ebon pilot

[ebon pilot]

ok i'll try to do that ty 😉

[violet igloo]

if you want to level more heroes go to resonating crystal, that's how it works. You only need to level 5 heroes

also read the guide that is pinned in this channel 🙂 it's 1 page guide and takes 2 minutes to read

and it'll save you from doing many mistakes

[rare umbra]

Anyone got any ideas I’ve been stuck here for a week now

[pale kettle]

umm, take mirael off crystal
reset hogan to 140, and get mirael to lvl 160 @rare umbra

she is your damage carry, she needs to be 20-40 levels higher than the rest of your team
also, dont get your heroes to legendary without having enough copies to get them to legendary+

[high pivot]

The first thing is why isn't mirael 160 over hogan. Second that's a rough fight for Lbs double vedan sucks. You've also probably heard this a lot but that's a lot of legendary heroes.

[rare umbra]

Still doesn’t help

It helps a bit but I still can’t win

[high pivot]

Put mirael in rowan's slot

[rare umbra]

Didn’t work

Brutus dies too quickly

[high pivot]

I'd try subbing both rosaline and rowan for tasi and nemora

[rare umbra]

Ok

That didn’t work either

[high pivot]

You might have to give up then for a bit and try again when your minimum level is higher. Your suffering from making too many legendary heroes, kinda spread your fodder a bit thin.

[foggy kelp]

Any thoughts on my current lineup? Not particularly stuck (I can probably get past this stage after some gear enhancement/a level up), but I don’t have a great idea what I’m doing in general.

[high pivot]

Swap estrilda and lucius' position, i'd also swap nemora and lyca if the first one doesn't work after a few trys @foggy kelp

[foggy kelp]

Okay! Thanks. Do you think my hero choice is good for what I have? I always second guess who I’ve picked

[high pivot]

If none of those work try swapping estrilda for rosaline.

I would say it's solid just unit placement and choosing to cc which units are giving you a problem is what was the main problem.

Instead of having estrilda run over skelly jr, you're better off running over viru as it delays his ultimate and abilties

[sharp maple]

please help i'm hard stuck 😔

[pale kettle]

i would help, but im lower than you xD

[high pivot]

I would try
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Estrilda
Nara

[bleak rain]

Is it winnable ?

[sharp maple]

I would try
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Estrilda
Nara
@high pivot what the heck it worked thank you 😳😳

[pale kettle]

lmao, that nara would have been why

[high pivot]

Ayyyyy lmaooo

I figured you just had to have lucius tank saveas and nara pull safiya

[pale kettle]

i was gonna say to use nara, but u already suggested the team xD

[high pivot]

@bleak rain what's killing you exactly so i know?

[naive crown]

24-54, any help?

[bleak rain]

@high pivot when Shemira ult it’s over

[orchid delta]

Hey guys, returning player here, might need some help with this one

[high pivot]

@bleak rain maybe drop rowan for this fight put lyca in his place and nemora frontline for the charm proc, if nemora get blown up the only other thing i can think is rowan frontline.

[bleak rain]

@high pivot gonna try

[fickle loom]

eh my first question is why are you letting tree get free root on carry, does he just implode elsewhere or what

[high pivot]

@naive crown
tasi/lucius
Shemira
Lyca
Eironn/lucius
Nemora

[bleak rain]

Putting Rowan frontline was the answer, I’m feeling so dumb not thinking about that

Thanks for the advice @high pivot

[high pivot]

Ayy congrats i'm surprised im getting these lineups spot on considering yall higher than me lol

[bleak rain]

You understand the meta better than me 🤷🏼‍♂️

[orchid delta]

@fickle loom My Shemira gets perma sleeped by that Tasi tho

[high pivot]

I just look at what the enemy lineup will do and the best way to react to it. @bleak rain i don't know much past midgame atm.

[fickle loom]

@orchid delta i actually wasn't referring to you but i see you have the same problem have you tried swapping brutus and shem lol. or fawkes rather than tasi just cause you have a stronger fawkes and his ult does break shem out of banish at least.

[orchid delta]

oh,fawkes worked,ty

[foggy grove]

Can someone help me with this?

[glad forum]

Two frontline tanks a mage healer and control

@foggy grove

Would also go for the upgrades hypogeans give if you line em up

[foggy grove]

Who’s a control hero?

[spice mantle]

Just drew daimon, would he fit my compo better than thoran? Also, what other options do I have than thoran here?

[outer notch]

Anyone with ideas for this? (without merc)

[fiery socket]

I was wondering what would be a good formation with the heroes I have. I’m mainly looking for a campaign team. I’m at the second to last level at 9

[mild geyser]

Any tips?

[sour ledge]

Need help for Misty Valley lineup 🙂

[clear fjord]

I think this comp could work with a lot of retries. Open to suggestions.

[digital echo]

@clear fjord I think u need to add tanks to ur comp like thoran or a character that protects the back line heroes

[fickle loom]

talene brutus nemora rowan daimon, first thing daimon isn't getting energy from rowan this way, second problem is you're allowing grezhul to set up clones without targeting him first

[digital echo]

Bruh @fickle loom ur so good at this stuff

I understand t the roles and stuff but I don’t take account for the energy

[fickle loom]

also actually your daimon is overleveled, he could probably just frontline too, so:
talene daimon lyca rowan nemora

@digital echo i mean, i don't know if it'll even work lol, i could be bullshitting off my ass

[digital echo]

Nah @fickle loom it’s fine in just starting so I probs don’t know much stuff

[clear fjord]

@digital echo where I'm at, everything evaporates. You can't really tank unless I over level a tank to 180

So you use stuff like talene, brutus, thoran to just stall for daimon. But I'll try fishes setup.

[digital echo]

Oh @clear fjord I didn’t know that

[gloomy bronze]

Can I get some help

[pale kettle]

should i sacrifice nemora or eironn, or no one and wait for another elite+ wilder?

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle wait

ok