This line up beat him on 9-36 9-40 for me
#lineup-help
olive pike
night sequoia
quasi sleet
Hello I am new to the game and would rlly appreciate it if someone can help me with which characters I should pick and which is the best formation
near igloo
Do you mean tasi?
olive pike
Yeah what ever her name is lol the fairy
near igloo
How is she the best? She always banishes vedan at the worst times
olive pike
Dont play on auto when hes the last one left
You can time her ability when hes out of bat morphing
near igloo
The banishing is what makes it bad. Everyone will be targeting vedan then he gets banished and everyone changes targets
olive pike
You just gotta stay alive till he's the last one left on the enemy side
Shes the only reason I was able to beat him
It took me a while to come up with a working formation since he can team wipe you pretty easy at mythic
Lucius and anoki are on the line up since they can keep your other heroes alive long enough to be able to single him out.
pale kettle
can anyone help me with lineup for 9-20. I just need lineup that will beat vedan, nemora, grezhul, isabella, and Vurk
little forge
Im stuck on 9-20, I cant get the speed and damage quick enough who should I use??
tender pond
2 people stuck on 9-20 dang
little forge
Its a bitch
pale kettle
what type of heroes should i use? I tried brutus, belinda, shemira, ferael, monkey king, wu kong, lyca, nara, etc
tender pond
@little forge remove all your levels from hogan and throw them on belinda
pale kettle
basically i just need to figure out the strategy
tender pond
you need to stack all your xp on one good carry
level them up as high as you can before leveling others
you can also remove levels at rickety cart and add them to your carry
pale kettle
like how to attack, do i take out one enemy first
near igloo
Ok finally got it just took some rng
tender pond
@pale kettle send your heroes
tender pond
same advice, remove your levels and stack one carry, i recommend shem or belinda
compact breach
Help with the 31-16 please @pale kettle
pale kettle
@tender pond what type of level distribution? Shemira at 130 and everyone else at 100 typ ething?
tender pond
hmm send heroes and battle from 31-16
modest pagoda
..... People tell me to use marael and she isnt any better of a carry
tender pond
@pale kettle like that, or even more. having your carry 40 levels above the rest is fine. you want them to be maxed before leveling others
pale kettle
hmm ok
tender pond
just go all in on one hero lol, it actually works
@modest pagoda you also leveled your other heroes a bit, carries work best when you stack them to the max.
little forge
Belinda is still only lasting like 5 seconds 😩
pale kettle
ya i'll try that
tender pond
move her around a bit, what does the stage look like?
modest pagoda
my marael is maxed at 100
modest pagoda
and is the zarael holding me back should I drop him he has good dps but trouble staying alive with one copy and purple gear it seems
pale kettle
@tender pond wish there was a way to target nemora more easily, but silvina doesn't really damage her, and nara doesn't do that much, same thing with trying to focus on vurk. I think you're right about the level thing. Seems like no matter what can't beat a team if you don't have someone who is several levels higher
modest pagoda
his tp behind the enemy team just makes em commit suicide
little forge
tender pond
zaph isn't really great on campaign it seems, especially early. i would take all levels off him and the others and feed them to daimon.
@pale kettle yep yep, its a bit wonky but it works
@little forge can you level your belinda higher?
tender pond
usually a carry can be leveled 40 levels above the rest of the team
try tasi up front, and take nirus levels off and give them to ira
get some faction bonus going
olive pike
I've never used a hero 40 levels above my others
modest pagoda
Current heroes I can max daimon I had shemira at level 100 and people said to use marael over her, rowan idk if he helps because my heroes die before he gets his ult. Idk man 😔
olive pike
My other heroes get killed too fast doing that
tender pond
its just a strategy for speeding through campaign. certain carries work really well
@modest pagoda shemira is a way better choice than mirael
having a carry is important when they reach level milestones. they can unlock new abilities and get power boosts at certain levels
olive pike
Isnt shemira only good at lvl 100+? She sucked hard before I got her there
tender pond
something like that, she does work mid game for sure
olive pike
Shes garbage for beginners. If it wasnt for people telling me how good she was i probably would never use her lol.
After I got her to lvl 100 she started to shine
modest pagoda
Im honestly about quit this game no matter who I level it does no difference
tender pond
hmm, well idk. i built belinda over shem and never regretted that
but i did end up building them both
pale kettle
belinda sucks for me, i had her and shemira both lvl 121 and belinda barely causes any damage
olive pike
I use belinda more aswell, it's why shes legendary +
Belinda is great with certain heroes
tender pond
@modest pagoda your levels are all over the place still, like i said all in is the usual strategy
belinda is a literally rail gun so idk how she would do no damage lol
just have to get her to ult
olive pike
@modest pagoda do you have wukong ?
modest pagoda
I dont have the hero experience to get all of them to level 100 😔> @modest pagoda do you have wukong ?
@olive pike
Yes I have wukong (one copy) for me he’s only good if he stays alive long enough to get his ult
olive pike
Get him from the labyrinth and elite + him
Hes the best carry to use, hes still my carry and I'm on chapter 10
tender pond
ayy i just beat 33-28
wukong is a decent carry, idk about the best. though i've never tried him myself. from my experience and my friends alts, daimon, shem, and belinda are the most common early game carries
but there are plenty of heroes you can use, even lucious
tender pond
lucious was a god for me early game lol, where i'm at estrilda manages to live longer than him tho
but i would use lucious over estrilda for most of the game
modest pagoda
Same for me SilentStranger Lucius carried me big time with his shields it allowed my heros to get their ults off in time
pale kettle
@tender pond can you tell me the top 5 lineup out of these heroes? I'm going to max shemira but still want to make sure I have the best lineup to get through chapter 9 and 10 etc
tender pond
yep, i went full LB since belinda was my carry. rosa rowan fawkes belinda lucious was a great team
pale kettle
tender pond
top 5 lineup? with your heroes? hmm thats a tough thing. it really depends on levels and you don't want to be resetting them all the time
olive pike
It really depends on who you fight
tender pond
i still think you should remove all levels from all of your heroes, and level 1 up as high as it can go. you have to level the others in intervals to allow them to go higher though
pale kettle
i don't like brutus that much since he always dies so quick
tender pond
does brutus get his shield after level 120?
pale kettle
but lucius wasn't much better, he died early too and did less damage
olive pike
Where are you at ?
pale kettle
9-20
tender pond
hes at 9-20 i think
olive pike
You have better heroes than me
modest pagoda
Ill ask once more what heroes should I mainly use I can get level 100 wukong elite a just standard team for all levels
tender pond
hmm, at some point you just need to afk it and get some levels.
nara is good, you could run full GB almost
stuck trellis
@modest pagoda reset shemira and run arden, reset daimon and run wukong
pale kettle
my fav lineup was brutus, monkey king, belinda, shemira and lyca but idk
stuck trellis
you want to run 1 damage dealer ideally per team, any more than that kinda sucks at your stage of the game
tender pond
having faction bonuses are pretty good though
stuck trellis
rowan + lucius + wukong + zaph is already 4, thats more than enough
also faction bonuses arent that game changing imo, i put them pretty low on the priority list when ubilding a team
But yes they are nice to have
olive pike
modest pagoda
so keep zaphreal or drop him for a support/tank ? He is bad front line and his tp destroys him
tender pond
@stuck trellis i was referring to supremes team he mentioned with brutus, wukong, belinda, shemira and lyca. literally no bonus.
modest pagoda
I am doing the arden and wukong rn
stuck trellis
@modest pagoda yeah i would drop zaphrael for someone like brutus, but if he works then he works
although i guess hes not working for u 
@tender pond oh ok
modest pagoda
Yup he isnt working because when he teleports behind the enemy team his shield breaks and he insta dies and doesnt get his ult to tp back
modest pagoda
All I got is dura’s grace which is an artifact. ranhorn’s strife was a walk in the park but the unrelenting blaze is insane they’re like legendary or mythic 100 heroes that insta kill my team.
olive pike
The relics help, I'm not sure how much they help tho
tender pond
relics actually help a lot in my experience
solid goblet
Artifacts (Grace, drape, call etc) help a lot.
tender pond
i'm now having to fight 5 team campaign stages, i'm constantly moving heroes and artifacts around
olive pike
Dont forget to hire a mercenary for peaks of time
I had a 5 star ascended lucius carry me through all of mine
tender pond
man, i've spent my entire game so far not using mercs, and i regret it. using an alt and taking mercs makes everything so much easier, just need some good friends
olive pike
It helps alot
tender pond
on my main account i've probably only requested 30 mercs the entire time i've played
olive pike
Anything you can do for an advantage and to advance, do it. Lol just ask some strong players if they're in a good mood and you get lucky theyll help.
tender pond
sadly, i'm the strongest player on my friends list still
i should go find some whale friends
modest pagoda
Ok I got the wukong, arden, lucius, and rowan, the 5th is between shemira ,daimon safiya, izold, lyca , ferark, nara, brutus (brutus is useless since he isnt ascended so he cant get that invincible shield)
olive pike
tender pond
farael is a strong carry as well. Daimon, shem, farael are all strong
olive pike
Oh yeah , add people who can help your library out, those bonuses help a ton
tender pond
you have a stronger friend than anybody i have xD
olive pike
I almost have every bonus at legendary
The union adds huge bonus to your attributes and will help you
modest pagoda
This good? Or should I still increase levels among the low level heroes > I almost have every bonus at legendary
@olive pike Nice I dont have any whale friends so the union isnt as benificial.
olive pike
Take your wukong to 101 if you can
tender pond
thats good for trying to use a carry, but getting the 1 level up gets you the bonus stat
modest pagoda
Gonna haft to ascend him in the next few days I guess
tender pond
its pretty hard if your carry can only be as high of a level as the enemies though
olive pike
modest pagoda
True, I dont know if im just trying to progress too much? guess I haft to wait some days until I get that labyrinth wukong copy? I got shemira recently all lab tokens I had.
tender pond
wukong is easy to build because you can buy him from lab, and flora is great when you get challenger tokens
olive pike
Cinder grottoes has a wukong in it aswell
pale kettle
Ones marked with orange is on my team rn any suggestions
olive pike
In the voyage of wonders
modest pagoda
Really? I did cinder though lemme go re-check
tender pond
i dont think its random
modest pagoda
Also I think shemira is insane in labyrinth when u get that relic that lets her life steal from 3 enemies at once.
olive pike
Yeah she is op in the lab
This was hard as fuck, I ended up doing both of the boss fights, with Belinda and the goblin.
I feel bad for the weaker players in the server, If I had a hard time I cant imagine what players without any strong heroes felt like
modest pagoda
Had to be random, this was the red chest I got and I already used it for the d- fudge.......
modest pagoda
Someone told me to pick daimon because he is really good out of all of them, his “number 1 choice”
olive pike
I picked wukong since I wanted to legendary him
modest pagoda
Honestly ima go for the twins when I can arent they good?
olive pike
Yeah they're good
tender pond
twins are very good
olive pike
But getting more than one copy of them is the problem
tender pond
also, from now on, in any circumstance, when you get chests or anything that gives you the choice between a normal hero and a celestial or hypogean, always pick the celestial/hypogean
always
modest pagoda
yeah I think it’s even more of a problem being f2p I’ve been frugal with my gems u get a lot early game got like 40k in 3 days but spent alot on some random 2700 summons
olive pike
I'm F2P aswell
modest pagoda
I have 7k at the moment do I go for some 2700 summons?
tender pond
early game i recommend spending all your diamonds on summons
modest pagoda
Yup the recent ones idk if there is any new ones in the past week or two though it was a vid from a few weeks ago
oh ill try the top one
tender pond
btw, wilders are probably the best faction for mid-late game pushing. there can be some debate on that though
astral pike
Any advice? I’m following the same lineup someone used to pass the level but I can’t get it. (I think the lvl difference is too big)
tender pond
hmm
whats the problem, your heroes die too quick? not enough dps?
i'm guessing you would have good luck swapping out farael for talene actually. maybe not though. or rosa
astral pike
Watch
tender pond
a lot of rng on arden, i recommend getting talene in there for sure
olive pike
Try swapping lyca for the twins @astral pike
proper willow
Currently in 9-16, been using my top 4 graveborn + wukong, should I change anything?
tender pond
twins isn't a bad bet, lyca is great with eironn though
proper willow
O
astral pike
Twins are only e+ I doubt that’ll work but I’ll try it.
Talane did fuck all @tender pond
tender pond
you need tasi to survive and get 1 ult off at least
astral pike
She lived longer but didn’t keep erionn alive
tender pond
hmm, maybe even get brutus in there, swap tasi to where ferael is and put brutus up front. i still think you should try rosa of ferael though
astral pike
Even if erionn ults and freezes them all, the minute they come out of it, I insta die
tender pond
tasi just needs to ult once and i think you can win with good rng
olive pike
Try swapping erionn for lucius
tender pond
swapping eironn out and using ferael carry could work but idk
i will say, you're pushing the limits of what you can do xD. eironn is probably the only one who can break through that stage
astral pike
He’s not SI30 so yeh I need erionn or safiya for sure
olive pike
Rough
olive pike
Maybe swap Lyca with rosaline
astral pike
Won’t work. Silv will target her and insta kill
tender pond
have you tried putting your athalia merc over ferael, and swapping lyca to the bottom
olive pike
Ahh that's true
astral pike
Lycra gives haste to everyone instantly where rosa is energy based
tender pond
lyca is important with eironn
astral pike
I’m trying to keep merc for boss stages later in chp 29 but If I have too I will
tender pond
oh that makes sense, its a tough call
astral pike
Even that doesn’t work (just tried the si30 birdchick
olive pike
Bruh whales really are another species in 10 days this dude has so many 5 stars
tender pond
meanwhile i'm at 33-32... trying to take down 5 teams lmao
olive pike
astral pike
What I’m confused about is people always say, “using erionn safiya/ferael comp - will take you to 29 in minutes”
tender pond
16 of the 25 enemies are graveborn too
frosty cypress
Help please
olive pike
This server hasn't even been out 2 weeks yet
astral pike
Hopefully when I get ferael to si30 that’ll be the case >.>
tender pond
i mean its a good comp, very good actually. but you still need SI's, and levels
tender pond
@frosty cypress
magic harness
@olive pike Let me give that a shot, thanks!
pale kettle
@astral pike
modest pagoda
A triple nice, but isnt rowan better than nemora?
pale kettle
Nemora 9/9 is op
astral pike
@pale kettle ??
magic harness
@olive pike Much closer to beating it. I'll give it a few tries and report back.
pale kettle
but Rowan 9/9 is 
modest pagoda
kk do I use the saurus copies to get him elite + or do I save them idk
astral pike
I’m not flexing my ferael, I’m showing that I only have 3 lvls to go until si30
So if anyone can provide some assistance here that’d be great haha
tender pond
hmm i tried man, not sure how much i can help tho
modest pagoda
ooo Im inexperienced and only played for 3 days but for levels where the enemy is 20 levels higher on every enemy cc or stun / buffs are just insanely useful over dps it seems, like if u have them stunned and get ur heroes ults off for that dps then I think that’s the way to go, I’ve never seen lyka and faeral as worth using mid game for me but late game could be a different story
tender pond
yeah, my favorite are survival comps. Eironn is super strong with the freeze paired with his dps though, he's usually key in pushing to the limits
this comp loves to just not die
magic harness
When Wu Kong has the enemy hero at 10% and switches targets 🤦♂️
modest pagoda
Gonna haft to drop wukong I guess without that elite + 😔 this level just shreds my heroes idk everyone is level 80 besides level 100 wukong
tender pond
modest pagoda
just everyone dies before they get their ult the dps just insta kills em
magic harness
Deletes 'em eh?
modest pagoda
I could record all I did was follow the suggestions by others
magic harness
@olive pike Ayyy it worked. Took about 10 tries. Thank you for your help. 🙂
tender pond
nicu!
modest pagoda
Also for me early game some levels I got stuck on were just bad rng off the start as long as my lucius manages to get his shields ability up my heroes stay alive for their ults and dominate, also I dont think gear is what holding me back it’s just the hero’s survivability
Think ill just have to be stuck for a while, tried so many things, what used to work for me was Shemira, Izold , Lucius , Zaphrael , Daimon because Izold’s health regen just made em tank well with lucius shield and allowed my heros to get ults off before he dies or maybe even live.
tender pond
pushing hard is very rng, people don't realize it often takes 50+ tries on a stage, later some players that push the max retry over 1000 times without exaggeration
i would never try that many times, i'm content just pushing normally xD
modest pagoda
Yeah I think that is mainly my issue truing to push progress in very little playtime, in 3 days Idk if I can progress farther than I have atm
tender pond
also, in the future my best tip for you when it comes to people helping you with comps. any time you use a recommended comp, i would retry it 10 times
modest pagoda
ok ill try like 3 more times with this comp then just drop it and try to get better gear and heroes / copys to really help out on campaign , I do labyrinth just fine aswell as floors but campaign doesnt have relics so I got to have those elite + heroes I guess to find success.
stuck trellis
@astral pike
pulling niru does nothing
and with eironn top and you get to CC arden as well
tender pond
ayy nice job, thats cool
astral pike
I pulled arden but I think silv jumps to tasi..
modest pagoda
My dream comp for endgame is twins , tasi , lucius , Talene , rowan
astral pike
@stuck trellis
stuck trellis
change gear, u can take off hat and chest from rowan @astral pike
pretty sure tasi will die if silvina hits her
astral pike
I’ll try
tender pond
lucious isn't actually good for dream end game comp sorry
putting flora or eironn instead of lucious and its good though
modest pagoda
Oh does eironn have good support I just really like lucius for those shields seems to make a big difference
stuck trellis
eironn rowan tasi lyca daimon/ferael/safiya is the dream comp for single stages
or at least it is pre 31
astral pike
@stuck trellis I had to remove all of rowan gear bc of SI lvl and I still got rolled
tender pond
eironn has great support with his +30, and overall amazing dps. he isn't good against every comp though. i typically use the comp i showed above
tasi talene flora rowan twins
astral pike
Do I use eye or blade with erionn?
stuck trellis
@astral pike tasi with your best t2 gear on her and rowan with only boots and weap and silvina is still jumping tasi?
call on eironn
tender pond
depends on the fight, usually eye or call. sometimes blade
i swap things around a lot so idk
astral pike
@stuck trellis tasi is all t2 + factioned gear and rowan is still stronger w/ boots and weap
stuck trellis
how 
maybe take off his artifact
that shouldnt be happening, im super confused
astral pike
Hahaha ok
tender pond
any furn you can move around idk? or change artifacts
astral pike
Lmaooo
stuck trellis
call tasi btw
astral pike
Ok
modest pagoda
Wow! The comp worked! I leveled my heroes up a small bit and the wukong was actually pretty solid I think I still should drop em for shemira until I get him elite +
tender pond
congrats!
stuck trellis
ok so
rowan has less defense than tasi, which means he should definetly be getting jumped by silvina
in that case, tasi is getting debuffed by safiya field maybe. swap lyca and tasi @astral pike
astral pike
Ight
modest pagoda
My apologies for doubting you guys, I just wasnt finding the working solution I wanted I didnt have much hope in finding a comp with my heroes I pulled.
stuck trellis
as long as you have the right wishlist there is no way you can pull bad units
theres always some way to progress as long as u get hte game knowledge
tender pond
knowledge is everything
stuck trellis
^ getting good at this game = learning more about it
astral pike
@stuck trellis
tender pond
yep yep, and not being somebody who leaves hogan in your wishlist till chapter 20. looks at self because i never bothered to learn about the game or ask questions till much later
safiya needs to be stopped
stuck trellis
@astral pike thats annoying. so tasi isnt in rowan range anymore so shes not getting the energy potion and isnt ulting in time cause of that.
so everytime tasi is frontline silvina jumps to tasi?
astral pike
I’ll check
Nope so silv now jumping to rowan.. but he doesn’t have call on anymore so he’s not ulting
@stuck trellis
stuck trellis
call doesnt add defense tho, so i think its fine to put call on rowan
try it out and tell me how it goes
modest pagoda
omg wukong dominates! For me lucius keeps dying at the start ill prob swap em out , shemira dies instantly aswell since she is level 85 since I dont use her as my carry anymore since wukong seems to do better
tender pond
i apologize but i can't help anymore rune :/
astral pike
@stuck trellis ayyyy I put blade on erionn and got it!
tender pond
Ayyyyy
stuck trellis
nice 
modest pagoda
Double healer go crazy? Nemora also performed better than rowan it seems at elite?
tender pond
rowan is great later for his energy pots, nemora is a solid healer though
stuck trellis
rowan doesnt have enrgy pots when he doesnt have SI
but his CC from ulting and the energy it gives is great
tender pond
i actually never had rowan till late game, i was running nemora as my healer lmao
modest pagoda
So maybe double healer can be tolerable in some cases? I guess rowan’s energy does help
tender pond
i mean more healing isn't bad, you want a main carry dps, then support
stuck trellis
as long as you stick to [1 dps 2 tank 2 support] or [1 dps 3 support 1 tank] it will be usable @modest pagoda
modest pagoda
So healing do count as support heros?
stuck trellis
yep, also nemora and rowan both have CC so thats a bonus
tender pond
oh yeah, healing is good support
modest pagoda
My current comp rn idk if this follows what u said since arden is in there and wouldnt he be more support then a tank? my dps seems to be wukong rn
tender pond
arden is grat support, more cc
stuck trellis
daimon is the dps wukong is a semi tank-dps so you are sticking to it
tender pond
overall a good comp rn
stuck trellis
@mortal crypt get wukong from the event, reset everyone to level 1, upgrade wukong as far as you can
then watch him 1v5
tender pond
umm probably for a bit, you'll want some good carries like wukong yeah
mortal crypt
Ok
stuck trellis
literally wukong + 4 lvl 1s, im not even joking
modest pagoda
lmao wukong 1v5 btw early shemira also seems to 1v4-5
mortal crypt
I want to grind acsendeds right?
tender pond
i've seen it lol, wukong does work
but i've seen other heroes do the same and it needs some rng and a proper fight
stuck trellis
do that and you can get to chapter 5 in 30 minutes
tender pond
theres another easy way to get to chapter 5 in 30 minutes
its called money
stuck trellis
💳
modest pagoda
do I do another 10 summon im at 3k gems ill have 300 after (f2p)
tender pond
i think summons is priority at your stage
stuck trellis
do it
modest pagoda
alr
mortal crypt
How do I get wukong tho, it's not clear to me
stuck trellis
mortal crypt
Lol they expect ppl to be this dumb 😂😂
tender pond
💯
stuck trellis
trust me, when youre in this server for a while you start seeing the same few quetions a ton of times
we've seen it all 
im prepared for everything
kind nest
I think I've answered the same things 10 times last 2 days @stuck trellis
stuck trellis
only 10 times?
modest pagoda
I regret sleeping on wukong early game he was some cheeks for me but rn he’s godly with that leevl 100
tender pond
he's a pretty strong celestial, and easy to build at low cost
personally i also recommend flora, especially once you start getting challenger tokens
modest pagoda
Yeah pippi I feel sometimes I repeat myself but it’s just because I cant fully understand the suggestion someone makes, because leveling is a huge factor and etc just some things people dont mention but just give that comp which sometimes I dont agree with because im new and shemira always worked for me early game, it seems in my case, level 80-90 as a standard was best for me at this point in the game
mortal crypt
Apparently I need a good level union first
modest pagoda
Yeah union idk if it actually helped me in the game but I heard they are pretty helpful buffs
just send “add me” stickers in global chat is what I did and used their heros I need some whales to friend me 😅 tbh
stuck trellis
@modest pagoda oh im not blaming anyone, this game is a huge information overload for new players and i understand that people will need in depth explanations for everything, its part of why i still help here
@mortal crypt just add friends with heroes and you will be able to fill the union spretty easily
mortal crypt
Oh
tender pond
i hate stickers in global
kind nest
@mortal crypt Or get into a guild where they have most unions filled.
mortal crypt
Yeah that's the plan
tender pond
my weakest friend on my list is 56 mil overall power lol, unions help a bit for certain heroes but i don't think you need to worry about getting all of them filled immediately
kind nest
The last buffs are percentages --> Meaning they scale with level.
pale kettle
@tender pond i tried having shemira at 136 and belinda (104), brutus (104), monkey king (101) , nara (101)
went even worse than before, shemira did more damage but rest of team did basically nothing, guess she can't carry that hard
upbeat fossil
Anyone has KT 422 clear without Thoran cheese or god comp?
tender pond
@pale kettle dang dude, just a strat most people use. personally i like belinda as my carry, and you cant forget you need to still try to use supports that can survive if possible
pale kettle
what about using a healer?
tender pond
dang bok, not sure i can be of much use on that one
healers are support, and i love having teams with lots of healing
pale kettle
@tender pond i have angelo and rowan, should i use one of them or both?
Who should I use. Idk names so number them
tender pond
rowan for sure, not sure on angelo. i think he's good that early
@pale kettle you don't have a lot of heroes yet, tasi the 6th hero (first on second row) is pretty good. overall your first 5 are going to do alright till you can get some more
pale kettle
think im going to reset shemira, maybe try and level up shemira and belinda both equally, idk.
Ok that’s good I use them
one thing i don't understand is i got Solise but she doesn't do that good, but her ultimate looks real nice
she just always dies early
tender pond
solise is actually surprisingly strong early
just some interesting pictures for damage reference from one of my alts
flora is really strong early game
but solise is 20 levels lower, and lower ascension. and somehow is doing more damage and tanking more than belinda. just thought it was interesting
pale kettle
well i should be able to use mercenary tomorrow, with athalia, going to be fun to watch
modest pagoda
Maybe it’s because of solise’s kit idk her kit but I assume so, and maybe it’s because the units she targets etc
magic harness
When the last enemy hero dies at 0 seconds and it says defeated. 🤦♂️
modest pagoda
facts My heroes will be alive like 2 but cant kill the last guy in time
magic harness
F
pale kettle
@tender pond holy crap, i put shemira and brutus at 121, and belinda at 120, and nara and monkey king at 104, and brutus killed nazghul and nemora, but then everyone died after that
first time was able to kill one of them
stuck trellis
@astral pike don't try to fera a tasi stage lol
which one is this?
astral pike
Oh lmao rip, uhhh 29-51
stuck trellis
I mean its possible to clear with fera, buts its very rng compared to using safiya or daimon
tender pond
@pale kettle keep playing around with things 🙂 you've got this
stuck trellis
stuck trellis
nice 
astral pike
Ferael or saf for althina lvl?
modest pagoda
btw Izold can help tank to keep a hero alive it seems in some circumstances especially if i tryna get lucius’s ult off
astral pike
Nvm I used saf lmao
modest pagoda
@stuck trellis Also I appreciate people like you putting their time into helping some kids on discord, when you could put your time elsewhere that’d be more beneficial.
stuck trellis
I mean either way I'm not gonna be productive
tender pond
can confirm, i'm only here because i have nothing else to do
modest pagoda
So yeah izold is still decent one copy in early mid game
tender pond
👍
rocky onyx
I’m starting to think this isn’t possible atm lol
tender pond
that should definitely be doable
modest pagoda
Same for me I dont do much school work I just lay around on my phone watching youtube 
I do have like all D’s rn
tender pond
@rocky onyx try taking the levels off antandra, puttin them on shem, then using a gb team like 'shem thoran baden rowan', and you can do lucious or nemora or something after that
rowan is just good for the heals, and if you need more heals go nemora, or tank/heals and sheilds lucious works as well
but gb are strong against lb so lucious might die
small spindle
I’m unable to pass this
rocky onyx
@tender pond will give it a shot thanks
tender pond
@small spindle swap rosa and belinda
kind nest
@small spindle Put rosa in the middle, so Belinda isn't oneshot by athalia
small spindle
Didn’t seem to work they take me out instantly
tender pond
you should use more gb or wilder
lb is probably going to die too fast, silvina loves to snipe
try subbing oden for belinda, and kelthur for lucious. its weird but might work. you can also put kelthur back across from enemy shem, and have your shem front line
small spindle
This is what I have atm
tender pond
you coul also use thoran in there then
personally i would try lots of things with your set up. you could try with a bunch of wilders. thoran tasi nemora saurus solise. or you could try more GB. thoran oden shem rosa rowan might work
small spindle
Kk I’ll give it a go, thx for the help
tender pond
yep yep, play around with things, they don't have to be your strongest heroes
rocky onyx
I’m still insta dead without Lucius, problem is whatever I throw into other forward position gets giga melted, Antadra worked best I’ve seen
And without Ezizh the Isabella deletes one of my back liners with her ult
tender pond
hmm, thoran is definitely going to be of use there
i still think you should take the levels off of antandra
and put them on shem or somebody else
rocky onyx
Antandra was my carry before but nothing so put into front besides her and Lucius lived, I did and put them on Shem but she’s insta dead as well
tender pond
hmm, antandra is super good, and has tons of healing. just i feel there are better options with your faction lineups
frail canopy
any ideas?
tender pond
just have call on tasi, and pray that she stays alive long enough to ult
i don't know for sure but i think you can sub out safiya there for maybe arthur or rosa. even gwyn if you need more dps
modest pagoda
Thoughts? which hero should I go for ascending or getting
tender pond
wilders are typically the meta campaign carries. all factions have good enough heroes though.
modest pagoda
Yeah I just wanna choose the most helpful faction for getting a hero that will help me rn, I dont wanna have a bunch of cards that are only useful in endgame
tender pond
fair enough, i would just go wilders. and as a general rule when you pick a faction, you usually use faction choice and scrolls on that same faction for most of early game. don't quote me on that though xD but that is typically a solid strategy to build up one faction. of course you'll need all later but i'm talking to help you the most now
low tinsel
I'd go for LB until you have enough Rowan copies to get him to Mythic tbh
modest pagoda
🧠
tender pond
thats not a bad idea, full LB at the start is super common too
low tinsel
Yeah, belinda is very usable as a carry too if you overlevel her enough
modest pagoda
got oscar
tender pond
oscar is... okay
low tinsel
🤮
tender pond
not useful if you haven't gotten more of him already :/
modest pagoda
on chapter 8 in 4 days average I guess? (btw sorry I checked my daily login event thing and im on 4 days)
Day 5... bruh im on day 5 didnt know I played for 5 days im slow prob cause I sleep all day
magic harness
I stuck Raine in my lineup of Lucius - Wu Kong - (removed Tasi) - Rowan - Rosaline and just blasted through 8 levels near the end of Ch. 8.
tender pond
i mean its not too bad i don't think. i don't know what the standard is for clear times
modest pagoda
I heard oscar dodges a lot of attacks
tender pond
he can, especially with furniture i think
modest pagoda
Might try em out rn as long as he can take some hits for my hero behind him to get their alt it’s ok
tender pond
you won't have furn for a while tho
modest pagoda
Yeah big rip if I get a chapter a day that’s really good progress for f2p correct? I get mythic gear at like chapt 10 right?
tender pond
you'll definitely slow down soon on chapter clearings, but all good if you can keep up progress like that
modest pagoda
Also really looking forward to stargaze by then I heard ur first stargaze has increased chances
Yeah if I get good rng on copy pulls for the right heros I can potentially form a perfectly syngerized team.
tender pond
your first stargaze is a guaranteed pull
its recommended to get twins i believe if you don't have them
in general you should ALWAYS stargaze celestial or hypo
modest pagoda
Ok I watch a small bit of volkon a AFK Arena player and he says that it isnt guarenteed maybe it is now idk he did say he his first stargaze was way back so maybe it wasnt guarenteed back then. Yes I wanna stargaze Talene first and just get twins from the store thing. Isnt talene just insane? I think she is unique with her dps + healing
tender pond
it was likely not guaranteed when he started, i'm fairly certain it is now. talene is super strong, if you can build her she can carry you through a lot end game
pale kettle
how do i beat this?
tender pond
when i finally built her i pushed almost 2 chapters in a week
modest pagoda
Yeah I think if I get her for my first stargaze I can end up building her in few weeks with the mythic gear trick, if I get mythic gear around the same time not sure what chapter it actually is
tender pond
ooh hmm, daimon is key to killing high level enemies, put daimon in somewhere and then full support to keep him alive. maybe tasi instead of saurus? get those sleep ults off
@pale kettle
modest pagoda
Maybe a banish hero could help u out?
Just what I think banishing it to a 5v1 or just high dps
tender pond
banishing would also help, the enemy athalia can't ult or you'll lose i'm pretty sure
modest pagoda
yeah tasi might work but idk depends if she can survive to get to that ult
Also why is rowan in the frontline? is that ideal?
faint current
@pale kettle Since there’s only two of them Arden/Tasi could probably CC them without TOO much fear of getting trucked. They could be super helpful here
modest pagoda
Also yeah I think it is risky depends what ur playing is that lab or
modest pagoda
possibly lose a hero in the process but if u manage to banish that athalia so she wont get her alt?
To me I think it’s arena or one of those adventures but why would he/she fight someone so much stronger in arena, not worth it
Wait that is an adventure correct? I see the relic ui
tender pond
ah yeah, makes sense
pale kettle
@faint current ok thanks, ill try that 😄
faint current
Honestly it may not be too possible that’s a MASSIVE deficit is that PoT?
modest pagoda
That’s what I was thinking ^
pale kettle
not possible, they couldnt do shit xD
mild geyser
@pale kettle i was in the same boat. I was almost 2000k power but gave up and its on the back burner for now
modest pagoda
i dont even bother with unrelenting blaze it’s just too risky to lose one of your strong heros off the bat (which is my issue when trying to beat it)
faint current
How trash is my single-battle arena comp? Any easy fixes?
faint current
Ofc 🙂 happy i was able to help
tender pond
honestly nilas that comp looks about as good as your heroes will get
faint current
Cool cool. Eironn is the biggest piece I’m missing right? (Celepogeans aside)
tender pond
eironn is a pvp monster yes, i have a lot of problems with him though, my eironn never pulls first no matter what
faint current
Ok I’ll do my best with this for now. Thanks!
tender pond
yep yep, my comp varies because the top 3 in my arena like to go back and forth. i commonly use tasi ezizh talene twins 'rowan or flora'
just typical comps i guess, or i use eironn gwyn lyca talene 'rowan or twins'
modest pagoda
I was gonna say oscar some ass but then I see the damage, he was dying super fast though healers only thing that saved em from dying in 2 seconds
tender pond
yeah when oscar pops off he does big damage sometimes
i have screenshots buried somewhere that he carries in damage
modest pagoda
I’ve had pretty lucky pulls in summons it seems, in a few days ill prob get some really nice ones such as tasi
nocturne furnace
Any suggestions for 3 teams?
tender pond
man, i have a fun enough time coming up with all my teams for a battle. for me its a lot of small shifting, moving of artifacts, and just trying things out. my typical strategy is use my weakest team for the first fight and just grind for rng. if i know my other two teams are strong and likely to win then it usually takes less tries that way
your teams look pretty good as they are, only other things you could do is swap a few heroes around here and there. hendrik isn't a bad idea to swap into the first fight, want to keep your gwyn up
modest pagoda
I think izold is also good because he knocks people to the ground which cant prevent their ulti for a second I believe
Yeah I heard that’s the best thing to do use your weaker heros first to deal damage beforehand but I just dont have enough heroes to have 2 whole formations of different heros
tender pond
yeah it gets tough
i have to come up with 5 teams now 😦
also i love getting around the slowmode by editing my previous comment
like this XD
spare zodiac
Looking for general line up help, I know I probably need to stop using mireal soon
modest pagoda
HOLY Rowan is insane gave my Daimon his ult 3 times
I tried marael and didnt work for me at level 100 elite
do u use ur rowan?
modest pagoda
So you dont have any healers? he also replenishes energy which is nice
spare zodiac
Wu kong, the blonde guy, the fairy, mireal then the lady who rides the deer
Thats my usual line up
modest pagoda
wukong, lucius, tasi, mirael, and lyka correct?
spare zodiac
Yup that order 1-5
modest pagoda
Maybe you should swap mirael for a healer but then again I’ve only been playing for 5 days but idk I feel marael just doesnt hold up as good as some 🤷🏻♂️
days*
spare zodiac
Well I was looking at the pin on the questions page and it says below level 100 use wu kong as carry, but then after level 100 but below 160 use mireal
I have her as a carry but can't have her in front as she dies too quickly
patent timber
plush pike
Need help for team comp, kinda stuck at 5-40 
pale kettle
@tender pond finally beat lvl 9-20 and also 9-21, brutus was the biggest help, but still was not beating it until i just kept replaying it over and over hoping the computer would let me win
😆
tender pond
nice job, lots of rng man, lots of rng
rotund hare
Help with 23-16?
swift void
Newer player, just got rowan and shemira. Who should I reset abd what 5 heroes should I focus on
mild gorge
did you rush arthur on Lab coins?
swift void
No I didn't understand what dimensional heroes were and I love everything about Arthur history and lore so I bought him
mild gorge
He is super cool! so i hope you like him
swift void
From what I understand whatever not good hero I ascend just tether to him?
mild geyser
Any tips?
river lintel
Tips? Been stuck for a second
simple swallow
Any tips I can do to improve my line up
gilded rover
Shall i upgrade Kaz or Eironn First?
proper veldt
ferael destroys my team
olive pike
@mortal crypt wukong can only carry if you have him a higher level than the others
faint current
@proper veldt Try Arden he is literally in his prime for you
Re-try until his roots catch Ferael if he’s the one destroying your team. More than 50/50 chance
ocean pawn
looking for a tip on 31-60 boss.
i can consistently beat 2 of the 3 teams but third gives me a lot of trouble. i do not have arthur or a high safiya
if i have the team in 3rd spot, in 2nd team, with rowan mid back fawkes back top i win easily
any tips?
ocean pawn
i also do not have mercenary left. used both before on 31-24 and 31-53 with a stupid mehira i wouldnt have beate
use lightbearers. i beat that with belinda lucius rosaline rowan fawkes
pale kettle
ocean pawn
wrong positioning. front row put lucius across from brutus, then rosaline next to him, put belinda behind rosaline, do what you must so rosa follows belinda, rowan back mid, fawkes behind lucius
like this
pale kettle
@ocean pawn I can't make Bel stronger than row
pale kettle
lucid scroll
Guys help what do I do to give myself the best chances here
Nvm the lineup i posted worked after what feels like the 100th try
hollow sequoia
Help.
pale kettle
Anyone have any 30-32 screenshots
random hinge
Stuck on 20-42, here's the heroes I have access to:
faint current
This is pretty much the best RNG I get. Lyca survives Athalia’s onslaught....and Athalia ult wipes team. Any suggestions?
real flicker
Any idea here?
random hinge
Lots of questions, not much answers. And I'm not the one to give answers, as I'm way behind the others needing help.
toxic flame
@real flicker
@faint current for that stage I believe pulling saf with a nara might help
faint current
I’m building Nara next you think a Mythic Nara would be enough @toxic flame
toxic flame
@faint current it should be. I didnt get a screenshot of that stage sorry >.> wish I could help more.
faint current
A guildie beat the stage with a very similar lineup....but better sigs XD. (And I cant just magically +30 ppl) No worries
pale kettle
Tried different positioning but haven't had much luck yet
random hinge
Thanks for tackling some of the questions... What about stage 20-42? Given the heroes I have access to, what's my best chance?
random hinge
Errr, I'm at 20-42
toxic flame
That was for swiftmage
toxic flame
Im looking at 20-42 now
proper veldt
@proper veldt Try Arden he is literally in his prime for you
@faint current should I swap fawkes for arden? and what lineup should I do?
toxic flame
And just for easier viewing you can take 1 ss of the stage and 1 of hero box. (Dont resend lol just in the future)
@random hinge if u reset lucius to 200 can u make shem 240?
random hinge
Lol, sorry about that. I resent because I thought you were thinking I'm at 30-42
pale kettle
@toxic flame Thanks I'l give that a shot
faint current
@proper veldt Not sure what would be best I’d have to see the fight in action and try each combination....but he’s just so strong lvl 141-160 that he should be in your lineup. He’ll keep 3 enemies stunned most of the fight so....definitely useful 🙂 it’s also random who he roots so you can soak retry and see how the fight plays out when different enemies are rooted
proper veldt
@faint current ah ok, I dont have a recorder so i cant show it sadly, but thanks, Ill retry until I get it
faint current
Wishing you luck! You got this 🙂
pale kettle
@toxic flame Nice, it worked thanks mate
toxic flame
@pale kettle sweet gg. In general I like saf over fera for tasi stages. Usually works better.
random hinge
No, I don't have enough ascended to go past 220. Need to get one more 220 hero before I can level further
pale kettle
@toxic flame I normally do too, but was just switching it around. I was surprised that Fera got me through 30-32 so I test him every now and then
He's also 9/9 so that might give some random advantage
toxic flame
@random hinge oh I didnt see u had a lvl 180 hero...
random hinge
Right. So I'm having to rely on effects, rather than raw stats, lol
proper veldt
oof, gets rooted, still screws me over xd @faint current
toxic flame
@random hinge idk maybe like
Lyca
Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Gwyn/daimon
pale kettle
I just started the game can anyone help me with Lineup?
toxic flame
@pale kettle for general help ask in #classic-questions
I suggest reading the pinned guides
weary wave
Can any one help with formation.. m not able to clear this one?
faint current
@proper veldt Idk then 😦
toxic flame
@weary wave u can try moving lucius where athalia is and putting brutus front lone
random hinge
idk maybe like
Lyca
Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Gwyn
@toxic flame thanks, that worked.
weary wave
@weary wave u can try moving lucius where athalia is and putting brutus front lone
@toxic flame ok m trying with this one now
proper veldt
@faint current ayeee, got it, switched it around a bit 😄
faint current
Nice! 😄
random hinge
What are all of the heroes you have access to?
toxic flame
@bronze dagger try switching eironn and lyca
random hinge
Also, iirc, Rosa is also helpful, yes?
toxic flame
Rosa can be yes but if that arden gets his roots off its way harder. Hence the pull on arden from eironn in bottom backline
random hinge
Yeah, these l tier heroes getting bumped to a tier makes some of these stages quite the challenge, lol
vale stump
8 16 i wanna make a belinda carry now i think since I'm hitting 101s now, can i get a suggestion? Maybe belinda rowan lucius rosalin and someone?
Or should i keep pushing saveas
toxic flame
@vale stump u r at the point where u still should be ascendinf fodder tier heroes
But for now belinda does have a higher level cap
bronze dagger
@toxic flame tried so many combination everything just dies too quickly. The closest I get to winning is shemira vs Kaz and she one hits shemira everytime
vale stump
Yea i ended up getting more of her so im not sure, got rowan and lucius but no brutus so thats why I'm wondering
This is my stage im at
bronze dagger
dark roost
Who should I invest on?
pale kettle
is this a good lineup so far?
vale stump
seems solid for now
pale kettle
eironn isnt really that good at low ascensions/levels
somber flax
Anyone can help me beat this stage ? Stuck on this for 3 days already
Can i do anything about it ? Or should i wait more ?
random hinge
Full list of heroes at your disposal?
Also, how many free spaces do you have on your crystal?
quasi sleet
Hey I’m new to the game and was wondering if anyone can help me with which heroes I should use and which formation is best for them
pale kettle
@quasi sleet take Belinda off the crystal and make her your highest possible level. She will be your carry. Use Tasi Eironn Wukong and Lucretia/Hogan
Front line Wukong/Tasi(Hogan)
Backline Bel Eironn(in mid for pull) Lucretia/Tasi
quasi sleet
Tysm
forest cliff
Some help please
frosty cypress
Help please
eager kernel
Can somebody help me?
pale kettle
@forest cliff is Arden cc the issue? Try swapping Lyca and row and Eironn and safi
@eager kernel Daimon Rowan Farael Luci and put Nara on bel. Stick Rowan in front of Athalia
What am I doing wrong here? I feel like the sustain on these enemies is abnormally high
Like how are they taking that much dmg and not dying?
forest cliff
i dont really know what the problem is. eironn dies instantly and everyone else melts shortly after
i know shem is usually the one with all the kills
i even tried nara to pull her, and somehow she dies even before pulling
pale kettle
If shem is killing then lock her down with Eironn in front
forest cliff
eironn doesnt pull from the frontline though
urban lagoon
pale kettle
Tasi
---Estrilda
Lyca
---Belinda
Daimon
@royal plover try this
somber flax
@random hinge sorry for the late reply, this is my heroes lost
*list
And i have 8 resonance crystal slot with 3 being used currently
random hinge
I'd try putting Belinda(and maybe Shemira) on the crystal. And using Belinda in the stage you're stuck on.
pale kettle
@royal plover
Sylv
---Tasi
Daimon
---Lyca
Farael
rare umbra
Should I get a legendary eironn or legendary rowan??
zenith violet
Can someone help me with PvP teams for legender?
dusty acorn
Any way for me to get passed this?
dark bison
Daimon comp, apart from mezoth, wukong, athalia. What other heroes work great? Brutus? Grezhul?
What about Torne?
eternal totem
Wtf is this man
stuck trellis
@eternal totem
u have to stop the eironn from pulling
fera + daimon will stop mehira heals and kill them
eternal totem
yeah I did it with almost the same comp. Thanks
royal plover
none of those 2 teams worked :I
proper willow
Currently stuck in 9-16 using mainly the highest leveled 4 graveborn + wukong in my lineup, should I change something with my current heroes?
uncut stone
Any way to beat this without resetting any heroes?
queen path
cant level lucretia any more due to ascension lvl, who do i switch to?
pale kettle
New player. Played for 4 days. What heroes should i focus on and why? Thx
grand perchBOT
Hello @pale kettle,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
pale kettle
@grand perch thx
marsh escarp
shemira, @pale kettle . She is solid through out the game
pale kettle
I have a 3x wilder team + monkey king also. Are there any obvious things im missing that could help me
Need help with 28-58 stage. My team, any team, is getting obliterated in mere seconds. I don't even sure if I can beat this stage at my crystal level, but I've seen people on stage 30 with my level.
marsh escarp
@pale kettle wu kong is hard to ascend so reset him
And use those exp to lvl the red hair Mauler mage
fading quarry
Just restarted last night after realising my mistakes or at least the majority of them, here’s what I’ve got so far with the new f2p account
Already see a pattern growing for lightbarer combos
Any advice?🙄
pale kettle
I want to know if i can make a better line up with my heroes (Current lineup is nemora, izold, wu kong, shemira and Zaphrael)
I feel like im not using lightbearers enough
fading quarry
@pale kettle could you advise me?
Should I stick cecilia in my lineup?, if so instead of whom?
pale kettle
Can someone help me in general? Stuck at 9 20, dunno what heroes I should lvl up/ do I use right or wrong? Beside classics
fading quarry
That other guy, not Lucius, waste of time and rss.
Should have invested in Wukong instead
I want to put cecilia in this lineup,who should I replace?
dusky mirage
anything i can do to improve my chances here?
little root
any tip?
thin merlin
How did you guys restart? Just uninstall the app and reinstall?
Should I restart.
I didn’t realize have legendary without legendary+ was bad
pale kettle
@thin merlin why is that?
thin merlin
Cause you could get stuck a long time waiting for what you need. I don’t have any legendary + and my carry is stuck at elite +
pale kettle
@thin merlin dont really get it. to have a L hero still better than the previous stage no? and you need to wait same time to get it l+ or what do i got wrong
for your question: restarting = new email, if u use huawei u need new huawei ID
thin merlin
I don’t know either, but if you wait maybe you’ll be able to merge it all to leg+
pale kettle
I don’t know either, but if you wait maybe you’ll be able to merge it all to leg+
@thin merlin what i can imagine is that it's just bad to feed heroes to a hero who takes long to get drawn again while you COULD upgrade another one already with these heroes which you used on the previous? still i dont see it as reason to restart, otherwise i would have to too x)
thin merlin
Yeah I’m waiting on dust to get Lyca to 121 so I’ll keep going for now. Stuck on 8-36 too
dusty acorn
Any help I'm hard stuck plz
little root
little root
oh well, still thank you though
stuck trellis
i think tasi banishes shemira so there isnt a point in pulling her
maybe saf out for fera if it doesnt work
little root
naras bleed just deletes my eironn
drifting raven
Any ideas? Athalia is mvp...rosa follows Lucius...
stuck trellis
@little root https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/609275505526439974/769520074335191070/Screenshot_20200928-003635_AFK_Arena.jpg
heres 30-4
queen path
had a lucky 3 pull with who do i replace lucretia with?
stuck trellis
little root
ty @stuck trellis
stuck trellis
@dusky mirage theres 30-2
still took a bit of retries even with that comp
pale kettle
yo can someone help me in legends' challenger tournament
stuck trellis
sorry i suck at pvp lineups lol
pale kettle
ok
stuck trellis
@queen path swap to mirael carry
dusky mirage
@stuck trellis thank you
queen path
replaced arden with lyca, unstuck
uncut stone
Any way to beat this without resetting any heroes?
@uncut stone PLS HELP ANYONE
dusty acorn
Resetting heros is basically free
delicate osprey
I don't know why I'm so stuck, even with these mercs... it's just GB Tower 242, some random number
stuck trellis
@delicate osprey what about this
izold
nara
fera
thoran
daimon
rose blade
Just started a couple days ago. Any advice would help
charred wyvern
delicate osprey
Thank you @stuck trellis It still took several tries but I got there using your formation.
I don't understand, I had a +30 Izold, why did I have to exert effort? 😛
stuck trellis
lol yeah
why even try when you can just izold 
queen path
i love this setup, too bad i cant lvl lucretia higher atm
fickle loom
@delicate osprey that's a wilder floor, ofc it's gonna be much harder than most floors even after it xd grats tho!
wet pawn
do I just swap to Eironn or Shemira here? It’s Ch 13 with Graveborns... Thinking Wilders would be good here?
rotund hare
Need helping beating 23-18
fickle loom
@wet pawn arden is gonna be more useful than fawkes or nara there. try swapping one of them out for him. highly doubt eironn will perform much here, especially comparing to a 20 level higher mirael.
@rotund hare this is just a fun experiment (for me xd): what if you swap out tasi or rowan for flora? :p
rotund hare
@fickle loom I’ll give it a shot
Seems to be working a little better but my runs are still so reliant on Rowan dodge rng... if he dodges enough to get his Ult off, I have a chance but only if everyone else can dodge a little as well lol
dusty acorn
I can ascend a mauler to mythic should I go Brutus or safiya
radiant field
I need help in 29-60 its so annoying
dark juniper
pale kettle
@dark juniper have u pic how u beat 30-32?
fickle loom
@dark juniper rowan tasi | daimon eironn lyca // maybe swap daimon/eironn and tasi/lyca depending on if anyone's dying
dark juniper
@fickle loom I’ll try ty
@pale kettle let me see real quick; 30-31 was the last screen
viscid pine
Winning formations in 30-47? Can't cheese the Brutus
mild geyser
Any help would be appreciated. Think I’m probably gonna need to merc this
burnt glade
What u think can Nara help here some how she is just e+
@mild geyser wait same lvl u r stuck in but urs on higher lvls lol
mild geyser
@burnt glade if u got an Arden use lyca and Arden and have ur Arden root their Arden and kaz then have someone burst down kaz. That’s how I did it in the lower levels but now my team is paper
Arden also needs call
burnt glade
Well my team paper to them too my Arden is just e+ I can crystal him
burnt glade
If depends but first only advice I will give u is don't get someone to legendry if he can't get to legendry plus
abstract gulch
Kind of new to this type of game. I think I know what am I doing. Any characters I should be focused on or any I'm wasting time with?
lime quiver
@ocean fossil at your level you want saveas/mirael L+ asap
ocean fossil
Ok thanks I’ll start working on that
lime quiver
@abstract gulch same to you, mirael saveas are gonna be your carries so make them L+ whenever you can using only fodder
abstract gulch
Do I have that one?
lime quiver
Saveas is the one below hogan/izold and mirael is the one below tasi
abstract gulch
Ok thank you.
lime quiver
Once you need to go past 160 you can ask again and someone will tell you which one to focus, I'm from shemira school so I don't know if saurus/daimon are good choices post 160, I can't advise you on that one
abstract gulch
What's the deal with the schools? I've seen others mention that
lime quiver
Nah it's just a say, back then shemira was the must have at 161
abstract gulch
Oh ok
lime quiver
Maybe she's still being the best choice, I truly don't know
leaden mason
Any ideas how to tackle this? Tried many combinations but they end me before I get out more than 2 ults
fickle loom
shemira - lucius | tasi - rosaline - arden
shemira - talene | tasi - rosaline - lucius
idk random ideas
rich oxide
@keen ledge lets move here
rich oxide
What artis do you have on your heros, press the middle button on stage screen to show em
keen ledge
rich oxide
Swap Rowan and shems arti
ionic echo
I'm stuck at 8-8 and the factional advantage is really hurting me (graveborn enemies while all my frontliner and carry is LB), is there anyone good that i can bring up as a frontliner?
marsh frigate
Any tips what I should level
ionic echo
I can e+ wu kong too if needed with the chest from cinder grotto, not sure whether it's better to take him or daimon
marsh frigate
solid goblet
@ionic echo generally its better to save the chests for when you need 1 more copy for the hero. However, daimon is a very good choice in the chest.
sharp ocean
I am stuuuuuuck any tips?
ionic echo
@ionic echo generally its better to save the chests for when you need 1 more copy for the hero. However, daimon is a very good choice in the chest.
@solid goblet yeah i think i'll save it until i can M Daimon
solid goblet
@sharp ocean Have you tried LB comp with belinda or Shem? Lucius Rosa (front line) + Fawkes Rowan Belinda/Shem (backline)
sharp ocean
I did not try that version of it I shall do so now
faint current
Any advice for 4x mauler stage? Can get new merc if needed
fickle loom
i mean first thing i would do is at least give safiya your rowan and preferably bunch your dps together, lol. don't think rigby can be taken down in a hurry so probably try to burst down ezizh and get him off the field. vurk should work but if you really want you could try to merc a tidus too.
faint current
@fickle loom Thanks!
ripe elk
This is just general direction, am I building the right characters? Also should I go Fawkes or Khasos next? I know eventually I will probably need both but just want to focus on one team for now (PvE)
fickle loom
@ripe elk no. go to #classic-questions read the pins there
charred wyvern
lucid mirage
I’m stuck on campaign please help me
modest pagoda
Is this worth it for lucius?
lucid mirage
@rich oxide what should my line up be?
modest pagoda
@ionic echo For me I picked daimon because he carried me early game and mid game a lot, but I heard elite+ wukong is a really good carry because at level 101 all his clones can use one of his abilities that is undodgeable and for all his clones to use that on an enemy is big damage, here are my dmg numbers rn
lucid mirage
Ok
steady blaze
I just started yesterday and have no idea what a good team comp looks like. I just used all the redemption codes available and got a bunch of summons and characters so can I get some help on making a good team?
solid goblet
@steady blaze read pins in #classic-questions and this guide
steady blaze
Thank you, also you pinged the wrong person😅
solid goblet
Oh whoops haha. Im on pc and just use drop down suggestions haha
unkempt field
How?
mild geyser
Any tips? My team feels too underleveled
rare umbra
It just is
tough hemlock
Any thoughts on lineup and team placement? I'm new to the game and like the characters I got but I don't really know synergy. Not really sure who should be the hero where Nara is on the picture (bottom left). Have used Gorvo (in front) and Gwyneth.
Open to all suggestions. Am also trying to read the FAQ and materials. Thank you for reading.
next cobalt
Same boat with the guy above. I just got wukong carried but now im stuck. Not sure what to invest and use.
tough hemlock
Looks like I'll invest in Wukong. I was thinking that anyway
pure parcel
Same.. I’ve been stuck in this formation for a while.. any recommendations?
fickle loom
........................this is what the pins in #classic-questions are for, read them.
magic harness
Hi guys, I'm very close to beating this stage, but can't seem to squeeze out the last bit of damage needed to kill Vedan. Any ideas?
I've tried putting Saveas and Wu Kong on Vedan's side, but my team seems to do worse.
copper peak
@rich oxide
rich oxide
Make saveas 120 keep the rest 80@magic harness
steep cipher
You could try afking a bit to get more resources and push saveas to 120. He was a solid carry at this point in the game @magic harness
magic harness
Okay, I can give that a shot. Thanks! @rich oxide
rich oxide
Shemira
Talene
Rosa
Rowan
Ferael/nara/daimon/flex @copper peak
copper peak
@rich oxide rosa awful low levbel though but okay
rich oxide
Doesnt matter just there to help shem ult, put call on shem and grace on rosa @copper peak
copper peak
@rich oxide not even kill any of their team
rich oxide
Ferael
Rowan
Nara
Shemira
Rosa @copper peak forgot to design it for stage you were on
copper peak
@rich oxide gonna run it a few tim ebut rn its not working
rich oxide
You're insanely over-leveled for chap 11, how's your gear?
copper peak
leg to likle the rare purple all 2 star or above @rich oxide
torn valve
What's your lineup jokk?
rich oxide
Max shems boots and make sure best gear is on her
mild geyser
dont upgrade any gear other than faction mythic the stat boosts are minimal and you will need gold
mild geyser
nara the mirael or morvus and try talene
torn valve
Put shemira in the back
rich oxide
Mmm yeah forgot you had talene ree, swap ferael with her
torn valve
And put things that will sustain, like thoran, brutus or talene @copper peak
thick wave
hi, i have the choice of choosing yellow 5 star sea emperor or pink 5 start mbison. wht do i choose
magic harness
@rich oxide I put Saveas at lv120 and everyone else between 81-101 (tank priority) and no joy. My team gets deleted almost instantly and then Saveas goes down quickly 1v5. 😦
thick wave
omg wrong game
magic harness
rich oxide
Tasi
Saveas
Rowan
Lucius
Arden
Raines trash @magic harness
copper peak
@rich oxide I feel like i should watch eiroon with nara he does more dmage nara just isnt doing enough
plucky summit
Having some trouble with this line up. Save me!
magic harness
How's this look? @rich oxide
plucky summit
rich oxide
Swap lucius and saveas @magic harness
magic harness
No luck, team gets deleted, but they are doing a tiny bit better than the other lineup. Maybe I'll just have to wait for AFK rewards at this point? @rich oxide
rich oxide
Mm show your mauler heros plz @magic harness
magic harness
rich oxide
Hmm yeah you need mauler fodder to up your saveas
magic harness
Interesting, thanks! Maybe I will give that a go. @olive pike
I haven't really gotten any Miraels either. What if I put Wu Kong at 120 and tried same lineup? @rich oxide
rich oxide
Sure try it out
magic harness
🙂 👍
magic harness
PogChamp
magic harness
Wu Kong (lv120), Lucius (101), Crystal Heroes (81). Does it make sense to prioritize leveling Lucius to 110/120, or should I push my crystal heroes to 90/101?
olive pike
If you take everybody to 101 you get a large increase in strength
brittle kernel
Isn’t it better to hard boost the carry like 40 levels?
unkempt field
Help
magic harness
OMG it worked!! @rich oxide @glacial linden
Wu Kong (lv120), Lucius (101), Crystal Heroes (~88)
rich oxide
magic harness
Thank you both. 🙂
fickle loom
@unkempt field thoran shemira | lyca rowan rosaline, idk worth a shot
magic harness
Time to romp through the Peaks of Time. 😄
rich oxide
Try cecilia if you have her, -60% atk might help more
wheat silo
Just started AFK Arena 1 hour ago. Can someone please tell me what my team should be? Thank you
fickle loom
disrupt doesn't really work before lv240 when you can get everyone onto the same level. it'll work about as well as trying to use a lower leveled tank lol. you could try to stun her with saveas spears i guess, probably not gonna work well either though. other option is to try putting nemora opposite her to see if she can buy some time with her charm, but that doesn't always work super well depending on the enemies. another actual strat is to use arden to root mirael for a while, if you have an arden somewhere give that a try, i've seen people use arden up to ch32 lol. usually recommended till ch20 at L+ tho.
@wheat silo wrong channel go to #classic-questions read the pins
snow light
Hi !
Any help for this lvl ? I can’t pass it...
shy sonnet
Hey have you tried switching up your information sometimes I notice if I can't pass something just switching players just like a few of them around you could win the lvl
midnight breach
@supple stratus how to cheese?
supple stratus
kick him
pale kettle
How can It be that hard?
blazing portal
frosty spindle
carmine palm
Any help with line up please? At Chapter 6 but not sure who to invest in moving forwards
thick wave
shermira and blinda forsure
inner mason
Any tips?
north tree
fickle loom
Could use some ideas for kt 470, getting stomped on...
dusky lion
@flat dune sometimes combinations you’d think are stupid work so don’t be afraid to put anyone in the front or back
boreal breach
These are my current heros what would be my best line up?
devout idol
Started 2 days ago, any advice will help
@runic flint quit while you can
solid goblet
@runic flint quit while you can
@devout idol no
runic flint
Why would I quit lmao
solid goblet
@boreal breach lucius thoran rosa fawkes shem isnt a bad comp
@pale kettle You made waaaay too many L heroes, spreading your fodder way too thin. You need to get 5 A asap.
You need to use fodder heroes to ascend your heroes, yeah? If you look at all your heroes you used a toooon of fodder on a bunch of random heroes instead of your main 5 to get them to ascended (A).
Now tons are stuck at L til you get copies for them.
Belinda needs L+ food, so give it to her next instead of making, say, rowan M next. That way youre done with belinda and only need her copies. Focus 1 hero from each faction at a time (+ 1 of your choosing) til you have 5 ascended.
spice mantle
So I went as far as I could with these guys, leveling lucretia is starting to be super expensive. Should i start leveling and running another cheaper carry or keep giving most of my ressources to lucretia ?
solid goblet
Read pins in #classic-questions and guide I just posted.
You will be better off leveling all your characters together at least til 80 then try to take carry 20-40 levels above other 4.
spice mantle
I did read the guides and pins. I'm asking whether or not I should get another carry than lucretia
mortal crypt
I checked pins and decided I had erred significantly so I am starting a team from scratch, but i have like 2 of the heroes in the pinned starter comp, should I just cobble together a team for now and wait?
rich oxide
Did you even change wishlist before summoning?@mortal crypt
mortal crypt
No, it took awhile for me to realize the knowledge held in the pins 😢
I wasted the first few days I was playing the game, essentially
dusky lion
If you’ve only played that short of time you may consider rerolling @mortal crypt
dusky lion
Starting over
mortal crypt
Wym?
spice mantle
Make another account
blissful scaffold
spice mantle
Usually you go in the settings and change server
mild geyser
@blissful scaffold read pins in questions
mortal crypt
Check pins trust me 😂😂
subtle tendon
pick a cary and build team around that carry, i have gone with shamera for carry and i can see you have her so thats my recomendation. but im hardly an expert
blissful scaffold
She seems really weak for me that’s what most people recommend tho :/
subtle tendon
yeah she seems really weak at first, i was confused why people told me to use her too. but once i got some levels on her she just hard carried and i understood
plush pike
Do i need to change someone from my team? I just kinda put some elite 1 dps, 2 tank, 2 supp
Still in ch6
mild geyser
@plush pike usually that early u can just run 1 dps 1 tank and 3 support but that changes depending on the stage also read pins in questions
mortal crypt
Should I get Lucretia or the light dude
plush pike
I heard its better use some rare hero for early game, and not elite
But i keep seeing in some guide, go get shemira fast as dps 
blissful scaffold
@subtle tendon do you place her on backline
mild geyser
@plush pike generally u should run something like wukong to lvl 100 then mirael/saveas to 160 then shem belinda or some other mid game carry
subtle tendon
@blissful scaffold when she is still weak then yeah protect her, she needs to get to use her ultimate. at this point tho i place her in frontline cause she can heal through pretty much any dmg with the help of my supports
blissful scaffold
Ok cool thanks cow
subtle tendon
How my team looks atm @blissful scaffold
plush pike
Eh wukong and saveas?
If i do that then, the team gonna be like this? Rowan, 1 tank, wukong, nemisu, saveas?
@mild geyser
mild geyser
where ur at wukong should just solo carry if hes high enough
also the roles arent set in stone u can change them however u like
spice mantle
How would this team look? Saveas would be main carry and 2 better tanks would probably replace the frontline
When I do get better frontline characters that is
mild geyser
@spice mantle read pins in #classic-questions but u could remove a tank and put saveas in front and have another support
spice mantle
I did read every single pins and I'm still as lost
mild geyser
basically u wanna use wukong till level 100 then switch to mirael or saveas then after that switch to a mid game carry
spice mantle
I don't own saveas right now unfortunately. Don't have wukong either
plush pike
@mild geyser for tank, which one shud i bring ? daimon, gorvo, golus, niru, hogan, or antandra ?
mild geyser
u can get wukong for free
daimon isnt really a tank but hes a beast and i guess hogan would work
spice mantle
Where do I get wukong
plush pike
share something twice @spice mantle
spice mantle
I think I'll just run saveas instead and skip wu
mild geyser
i used wukong on an alt and he soloed to like around chapter 8
plush pike
so, for tank use hogan early then daimon mid game ? @mild geyser
mild geyser
daimon is more like a dps then tank but always use him if u can
rough sand
Off and on stuck in chapter 12. Currently 12-34 right now. Any formation help anyone can offer?
mild geyser
@rough sand dont L if u cant L+ also show stage
pale kettle
Could someone pls help me
mild geyser
@pale kettle im not there yet but u try have eironn suck arden and put rowan or lyca across from athalia
@rough sand u could try switching lucius and rowan around and then take out silvina for arden and try and have silvina jump on rowan
rough sand
Thanks. I'll give it a try
mild geyser
@olive pike not sure how well wukong performs at 120 but u could try reseting all of them to level 100 and overlevel belinda
try something like
tasi
lucius
numisu
belinda
estrilda
and post all ur heroes
modest pagoda
How the hell do you beat this?