#lineup-help

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unkempt field
violet igloo
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@slender siren you're welcome. and you're right to try and change heroes position, it's never a bad idea to try things out like that

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@unkempt field that's why having shemira will help a lot, she's much stronger than belinda in mid game.

In the meantime, try :

Rosa
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Luca

see if you can switch heroes around to make it work. If belinda can survive in frontline and ult, it's not bad.

also try and avoid making heroes to legendary if you can't make them L+ straight away.

fossil mural
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Stuck here, been trying all sortsa positioning but no luck. Any tips?

violet igloo
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try putting mirael middle backline, and also nemora bottom backline, so that she can charm Brutus and not die

unkempt field
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Worked. Ty@violet igloo

hot canopy
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Stuck right here, could someone please help?

violet igloo
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@unkempt field you're welcome. I hope by explaning these few tips you can advance faster in your progress 🙂

unkempt field
hot canopy
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@violet igloo yeah and if I follow the guide I should use saveas and support him. But then I can’t use wukong and thats by far my best unit

violet igloo
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@hot canopy wukong is less strong than saveas when lvl 100+

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@unkempt field in a way yes, since belinda can be pepega and she'll ult the totems. Once again, Shemira is big boss compared to Belinda x)

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@hot canopy post your heroes screen. Also did you buy shemira in lab store ?

hot canopy
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and nope I just randomly pulled her

unkempt field
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Ah damn. My account seems to love Belinda, I get many copies of her.

hot canopy
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Also, if saveas is stronger than wukong, did my wukong become worthless?

ocean cloud
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Hey I just looked at the hero tier list and I realized I have some good hero’s, could someone help me out w my lineup? I’m not struggling in campaign right now but I just want a solid lineup

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Skreg and monkey king are good, Ik that

violet igloo
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use mirael or saveas once hero lvl is 100+

meanwhile, use wukong. Put him lvl 80 and other heroes lvl 40

Nemora
Wukong
Tasi
Brutus
Hogan/Flora

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@ocean cloud

ocean cloud
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Thanks, was it smart leveling up that one chick go 80?

fossil mural
violet igloo
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@hot canopy no not necessarily, it's always good to have copies of celestials or hypos. But the more you advance, the less you're gonna use him since he's really hard to ascend, you need so many copies for acended heroes. The only way is to spend lots of money. And to be honest, in mid game there are better support heroes when you'll be using Shemira

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@fossil mural keep leveling your mirael 🙂 it'll pass dw

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@hot canopy put Saveas lvl 120 and other heroes lvl 80 :

Saveas
Wukong
Tasi
Brutus
Fawkes

try that

hot canopy
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@violet igloo okay thanks

violet igloo
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@wintry bane try and avoid making heroes to legendary if you can't make them L+ straight away.

Rosa
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus/Lucius
Tasi/lyca

if tasi dies, change with other hero

hot canopy
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@violet igloo Why specifically level 80 and not just as high as possible?

violet igloo
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@hot canopy it's as high level as possible, 80 is just example.

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try and make saveas turn to Legendary asap

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he'll be throwing logs towards ennemy team : )

hot canopy
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Awesome, thanks for the help!

violet igloo
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yw

hot canopy
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I can make saveas Leg now if i sacrifice Numisu and safiya @violet igloo

rocky nimbus
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Hey.. I’m having some issues with this lineup. It feels as if Belinda is kinda week, especially for being so 20levels above.. should I be changing anything up? Possibly going with a different carry and save Belinda for mid game?

undone olive
molten pivot
faint current
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@molten pivot Reset one of your 6 heroes you leveled, you only need 5, and pump that exp into Wukong for ez win

crude elk
pale kettle
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I believe rowan. He can help everyone in the team and rosa only 1

crude elk
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And who should i "main"

pale kettle
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For now, WuKong

crude elk
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Alr thx

limpid holly
brittle slate
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I need help with a solid group

sharp bough
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help me build team plz
im at 9-33 stage
i have 20k baracks coins and 90k lab coins and didnt buy any hero yet
thnx

brazen wadi
thin spire
mint copper
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Is this the best formation for my lineup? Or maybe even i should change someone from this lineup

pale kettle
sick wagon
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hello, any training you recommend against these enemies?

obtuse sun
clever patio
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@obtuse sun I’d get a Nara then level up ur own arden.

safiya
Rowan
Nimisu
Monkey dude
And either tasi or nemora
That’s a team u could use with ur current heroes just level up ur safiya

pale kettle
obtuse sun
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I also have Belinda in like 1 hour

thin spire
torn valve
graceful coral
nimble hound
hollow hatch
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@graceful coral that’s good for that formation, but I’d recomend swapping out baden and Talene because they don’t have ascenscions, try

Twins

Rowan
Warek
Saurus
Cecelia

torn valve
graceful coral
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I have Cecilia on Elite only and not even in the Resonating Crystal, would have to wait a day to use her @hollow hatch

nimble hound
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ty bro ill give that a go

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wait nvm i dont have big stitchy haha

torn valve
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I can lend mine if u want

hollow hatch
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For now put in rosaline. But Elite Cecelia works fine, take off baden and put her on tomorrow Baden isn’t really useful @graceful coral

torn valve
nimble hound
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ty for the offer bro i might just take you up on it if i cant get it done without merc. trying to save it for end of the week if possible 😢

torn valve
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Okay np

graceful coral
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@fathom yacht so same thing u said before but Rosa+Rowan?

thin spire
hollow hatch
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@graceful coral yeah just rosaline instead of Cecelia

graceful coral
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@hollow hatch Thanks, I tried it and its nuts

hollow hatch
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Nice

stuck trellis
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@sick wagon scroll up a little

wary chasm
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Need help making a team, currently stage 12-14

glad flower
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@violet igloo I’m level stuck. So I’ll reset them all and find some e+. See if I can get them all above 100. If not I gotta just wait a bit to do the crystal trick until I can get them ascended.

pale kettle
mild geyser
pale kettle
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i dont think you should put that rowan in that position

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he will hit die

mild geyser
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Yea he’s silvina bait

shy sable
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I just hit the point where I can have a 240 damage dealer my options are gwyneth, shemira, ezio, lyca, nakoruru. Who should I make 240 while the rest stay 200 or maybe 220

sick wagon
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@sick wagon scroll up a little
@stuck trellis thanks

stuck trellis
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@sick wagon no problem
you want to use that team always, sometimes swapping ferael out for safiya. with your levels and that team, you can push to chapter 31

amber smelt
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Could anyone please advise how best I create my first line-up? Should I go for 5 lightbearers?

lost swift
fickle loom
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mages and tanks....

sour coral
summer hollow
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Eiron looks like the next step imo

fickle loom
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going to the right chat seems to be the next step imo (read the pins, this chat is for specific lineups, generic building questions belong in #classic-questions )

unkempt field
dusky lion
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I’ve been using fawkes to help me with Brutus @unkempt field idk if you have him but I swapped him to my crystal

unkempt field
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It worked ty

subtle bramble
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I’ve been stuck on 10-22 for a couple days now any tips or help on what to do with my team and who to upgrade would be greatly appreciated

formal jackal
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i have these troops and need help with beating 9-20

muted stream
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Any ideas?

wet pawn
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im on 11-19 with a Saveas up against me.. I cant manage lucius ult only Mirael ult

pale kettle
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@shy sable it depends on tje rest of your team but shemira or nakoruru. Shemira is easiest to make things work.

@SteveyWolfy Lucius Belinda Lucretia Rowan Rosa. You can swap Belinda and Lucretia as you need and swap one of them for Brutus or Gorvo if you need more survivability.

smoky urchin
pale kettle
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@Kentonium Lyca and Eironn for Tasi Rowan Ferael/Safiya Eironn Lyca comp, and then Saurus for Wrizz and TR.

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@tribal plaza Rowan Lyca Safiya Eironn Tasi might be your best option

sharp bough
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help me build team plz
im at 9-33 stage
i have 20k baracks coins and 90k lab coins and didnt buy any hero yet
thnx

pale kettle
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@wet pawn you should are a L+ Arden as soon as you can imo. Same with Lucius, you jeed the boost to defence, or swap in Brutus for survivability. Add Shemira to your crystal but Lucius - Brutus/Daimon, Rosa Mirael Tasi/Fawkes is your strongest Lineup against most stuff. Get Mirael to 140/141 then get your supports to 121 asap for the extra skill.

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Shemira Lucius Rosa Lyca Tasi/Lucretia might be as good as you get

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You have to stop taking stuff to L unless you can get it straight to L+ and reset Shemira and Lucius - use a L+ mauler fodder and L+ your Arden asap

smoky urchin
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Why reset them?

pale kettle
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You're wasting XP and essence. You only want to build the heroes on the top of the resonating crystal.

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@sharp bough Hogan/Izold, Belinda, Tasi, Rowan Rosa. Build Arden Saveas and Vedan to L+

narrow thunder
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Can I please get some line up help?

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I'm not sure which of my heroes are strongest to use

sharp bough
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@pale kettle why use 2 support? and what about miarel all ppl before told me to save her copies

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and i dont have any arden

lavish spear
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anything i can do to cheese it or do i have to wait more

split peak
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Try getting crystal to lvl 80 and murael to lvl120

lavish spear
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well that's pretty much the plan :D so until then I'm stuck here?

pale kettle
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i'm stupid new (like chapter2ish) and was wondering if it's possible to make a structured team with the elites I currently have. so far I have lucretia, izold, numisu, rosaline, wukong, skreg, thoran, and grezhul as my elites.

split peak
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@pale kettle u can but keep in mind ur team will drastically change not long after

pale kettle
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why's that

split peak
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Luck dictates what heroes u use until probably late into the mud game period

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Mid*

rocky nimbus
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Hey.. looking for some lineup help. Currently running the top 5, playing around with the 5th spot. Trying to find a hero to help keep Lucious alive until his ult. I tried Nemora, but didn’t really do much of anything. Any suggests on what I should run?

tawny trench
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Tasi or Lyca to level 201 first? I'm running them with Shemira, Brutus, and Nemora in Ch 22 at the moment.

wet pawn
ruby lily
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The second pin here probably has a solution. If it's high burst damage then it does.

fervent relic
regal arrow
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Need to level you carry more

lean garden
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is there any option to win that fight? or just leveling up

nimble hound
pale kettle
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swap tasi with rowan and lyca with saf

nimble hound
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thanks will try it for a while to see if rng can get me past

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rippp still getting rekt

pale kettle
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on wich hero jump silvana?

nimble hound
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safiya

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and if i take her off tasi gets jumped

pale kettle
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Tasi and saf have call?

nimble hound
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should i change safiya's blade to call

pale kettle
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no - give rowan call. so Silvana should jump on rowan. And then try him on same spot or on tasis

nimble hound
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silvinia still jumps saf when i give rowan call. i think silvinia jumps the weakest defence mage

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my rowan is higher level compared to others

pale kettle
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y In my brain was other hero.
lyca
rowan
Eiron
Lucius
daimon

u could try that@nimble hound

nimble hound
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ok thank you will try that now 😄

severe ocean
nimble hound
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hahaha my lucius melts like paper ripp i might try brutus

severe ocean
fervent knot
woeful cargo
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i keep dying on this i’m not sure what to do (you can ping me if you know what i should do)

serene hull
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@woeful cargo maybe if you can try leveling up your hero's and their gear, and I'll send you a picture of hero placement I think you should try

woeful cargo
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o ok

serene hull
woeful cargo
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o ok i’ll try that thank you :D

serene hull
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But also maybe you could replace the Mireal with Wu Kong

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So I'd suggest trying both of those

woeful cargo
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alright i’ll try it out :)

stuck trellis
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tasi
lyca
rowan
eironn
saf.

@fervent knot

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as a non talene option

pale kettle
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Any lineups for King's Tower 397?

violet igloo
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yes, keep trying 👍

final patio
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Hi my dudes i've been playing for 5 days and i don't get the ascension system and how should i level up my team and what Is the best team that i can have at the moment, can someone help me? i can post screenshot of my Heroes and stuff

grand perchBOT
shadow vessel
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Or should I wait

unkempt field
nimble hound
plain cradle
pale kettle
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lf 30-26 for under level 300

ruby lily
slender ferry
pale kettle
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Where does Nakoruru need to be placed to interupt Eironn pull if he's back mid?

subtle sluice
pale kettle
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Anyone have the chapter 30 lineup imgr

stuck trellis
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@slender ferry this stage took a shit ton of retries

drowsy river
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40 retries and nothing really worked. Help anybody?

twin rune
slender ferry
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Okay thanks

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What level your in now @stuck trellis

stuck trellis
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30-26
I'm power req'ed

slender ferry
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Oh nice

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What level your hero’s at ?

stuck trellis
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298

slender ferry
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Oh wow

pale kettle
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y stuckted on 30-26 too.. upgrade to lvl 299 was helpfull now stuck in 30-31lycapalm

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well.. but my eiron deal no dmg haha ill try now diff artefacts

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Me?

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@pale kettle me?

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@pale kettle u mean her sl?

ruby lily
pale kettle
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well. So ill need to w8 few days thanks

ruby lily
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Still need help

pale kettle
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Any other 30-12 lineups or just the Eironn, Lyca, Tasi, Rowan, Safiya one

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Nevermind just cleared it lol

brave wagon
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@forest carbon what did you use for 32-4?

forest carbon
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my ch32 clears are all going to be overlevelled btw

brave wagon
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Do you remember the relics?

forest carbon
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for who specifically?

brave wagon
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The 2nd comp

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Also that's not overleved at all, much lower than pretty much everyone else in my clear list

forest carbon
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itd be chalice call blade eye chalice

brave wagon
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Alright thanks warekheart

pale kettle
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@pale kettle in 30-32 I can pull vurk or Numisu. If I pull vurk numisu kill me if I pull Numisu vurk kill me.. I cant take Nara or Cecilla cause to low hero power. Ideas?🤔 😅

trail stone
fickle loom
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full LB works wonders for 30-32

odd ginkgo
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@pale kettle how did u 3115?

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Any plans on 3160 btw?

gray geyser
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Struggling with LB 206. Athalia and Belinda just mercing everybody. Doesn't help seems Fawkes changes who he coffins every other round

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Was Rosa following Belinda there? Might have to mess around with gear to get Rosa on Belinda if so

odd ginkgo
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31 60 will most likely be
Thoran 1
Gwyn 2
Daimon 3
@pale kettle are u still power capped?

forest carbon
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Yes Rosa following bel

somber granite
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Hey guys new to the AFK universe, can anyone help me (and possibly reason me) with a good setup from what I have.. and how to progress forward and what to look out for in this early stage pretty please 🙂

odd ginkgo
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@odd ginkgo yea, on single stages
@pale kettle what about 3116? U said that was the stage u had to 30+ gwyn right?

gray geyser
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@forest carbon Sorry looks like I actually need 206 not 207

forest carbon
zenith violet
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Could you guys share your 31-4 winning screenshots? 🙃

forest carbon
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Just search. There's a lot

fickle loom
somber granite
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Oh ok sorry

fickle loom
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pretty sure at that level you can just push through with wilder core but...long due for a reset to your mage tree bruh.

foggy gale
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reset my mage relic and go for what?

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Could you show me the tree I should build?!

fickle loom
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usually you need a disruptor like athalia/nara on mehira, but that does become less important when you're less underleveled. idk i'd try something like eironn rowan tasi saurus lyca, could probably sub saurus for something but i'm not sure what.
if you're finishing that lyca/ferael you're building, celerity

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i'm not an expert at this either, i'm following advice other people gave me for the wilder/eironn core tree level plan, if you plan on straying from current meta you may not want to level this way, but this is what people told me to do: 27/5/5/5/27 -> 27/5/15/5/27 -> 37/5/15/5/27 -> 37/5/15/5/37 -> 37/5/27/5/37 (also any further discussion on tree and not on level doesn't belong here...)

  • added an earlier might because i have quite a few might heroes myself and that ended up being advice given to me, your experience may differ
foggy gale
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Yea you are right the meta goea for agility and sup heroes

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but idk I like to havea mage hero at my comb that why I went for mage Relic, but I guess I should reset Tanks tree and go for agility instead tho

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thank you btw...

fickle loom
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if you want more tree advice ask in #classic-questions and hope for the best or ask again if no one answers (seems quiet right now), if you want stage advice maybe try what i put or describe what's going wrong or post later (again, kinda quiet rn lol) xd

foggy gale
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Alright Thanks I'll take with your advice with lining up and I'll tell you it worked

gray geyser
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@forest carbon thanks, took some tries. Got it

ruby lily
pale kettle
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i’d recommend checking factional advantages! for example, graveborn have a factional advantage against lightbearers so i would recommend trying to put more graveborn hero’s in that lineup :)

austere geyser
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Some help

stark dagger
open apex
dense swan
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Hi guys, need some help on my lineup pls. For now i’ve Lucius and Brutus on front and Shemira, Rosaline, Belinda on back. Need to switch some heroes ? Who evolve first ? Thx !

foggy gale
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@fickle loom Hey I did it, but I had to do some change at the formation it was like Rowan, Safiya, Tasi, Errion, Nara, Who thought Safiya would work in front lol

fickle loom
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grats lol, and I've heard of other people using saf front too, personally I haven't tried it though. gg!

stable kite
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how to unlink accounts in game?

dreamy dust
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Dont think you can since it saves ur data on that account

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@open apex feel like second one is more suitable for pvp (god comp)
Although im no pvp expert so idk if gwen arthur in pvp is good

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@dense swan why u usin shemira and belinda together
Use one of either

rocky onyx
odd ginkgo
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Lol hard stuck :)

dreamy dust
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Ofc u gonna be stuck with that weird line up
Lucius/antandra rowan nemora and talene
Idea is , keepin antandra alive to do the work since u dont have anyone else
Edit : antandra in front of the bats guy (also she isnt the best carry so i advise u start makin a new one, unless u enjoy her then all u)

stable kite
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Dont think you can since it saves ur data on that account
@dreamy dust My account has been hacked and I cannot recover it from Facebook

dreamy dust
stark dagger
dreamy dust
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Try to nara the arden maybe

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So ur erionn can cleave the others n not worry bout him

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Since tbh he is the problem, once u get rooted, ur erionn como falls
Also tasi gonna be annoying so oh boi

stark dagger
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Thanks.👍

dreamy dust
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Uknow try even ezio he might clutch it somehow

stark dagger
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I tried. The closest i get is to only tasi left. Then she does jump on eirron and kill the rest. homegalul

stable kite
dreamy dust
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I tried. The closest i get is to only tasi left. Then she does jump on eirron and kill the rest. homegalul
@stark dagger then this is gonna take ton of tries

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@dreamy dust yes
@stable kite try to get ur account back from google in the settings

stable kite
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@stable kite try to get ur account back from google in the settings
@dreamy dust I can't, it's been 5 days they say no

dreamy dust
dusky mirage
severe ocean
tall current
severe ocean
simple portal
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hey there! so i have an alt running 5 lightbearers buff at elite+. Belinda, Rosaline, wukong, Hogan and Mirael. I just pulled a 2nd copy of Shemira and got her to elite. is it worth to swap to her? i´ll get at most a 3 stack buff if i do.

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i got kelthur at elite+ and Izold too but i dont think they will be useful at this point

atomic lodge
dreamy dust
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hey there! so i have an alt running 5 lightbearers buff at elite+. Belinda, Rosaline, wukong, Hogan and Mirael. I just pulled a 2nd copy of Shemira and got her to elite. is it worth to swap to her? i´ll get at most a 3 stack buff if i do.
@simple portal dont use shemira till she mythic 161 lvl

simple portal
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ok thanks

dreamy dust
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@atomic lodge better twins to survive more , thats bout it
They prolly die in first half of the battle or something like that
If they stay till the end, u will make it
Also use warek or lorsan instead of talene
Way more dmg

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@severe ocean tbh just lvl up ur crystal more
And try to change positions of the back line

stoic halo
eternal totem
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Ey @faint current do you have ss of the 28-40? I can't kill the stupid mehira and saf at the same time with eironn-saf

faint current
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@eternal totem I don’t....BUT I was stuck there so long I remember what I used. One sec

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@eternal totem I’m massively overleveled and missing many key heroes unfortunately, sorry if this doesn’t help.

eternal totem
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@faint current damn 307 hahaha. I'll try a bit more with my Daimon, but he is only M. Thanks 👌

faint current
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No problem. I don’t have Eironn built but something tells me he’s SUPER useful on 28-40 so if you can find a comp using Eironn that might work better

eternal totem
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I tried using him a 2 to pull saf and mehira, but he gets almost insta deleted by the bats+saf damage. And if I use him at 4, saf destroys my on her own

faint current
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That looks OP

eternal totem
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Problem is that my athalia and nara are both E+. I'll try with merc

pale kettle
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Who should I use?

jovial leaf
lavish spear
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I just rolled an izold should I include him in my lineup(mirael,hogan,arden,daimon,rosaline)

olive fulcrum
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Do you think I can beat it like this or should I wait for power so I can use the izold merc ?

coarse cradle
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@atomic lodge warek instead of talene. Lorsan instead of Rowan

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@olive fulcrum just use nara on mehira

olive fulcrum
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I have to play that ferael to meet the power requirement so should I replace Safiya with Nara and switch the position with ferael ? @coarse cradle

coarse cradle
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Safiya needed to kill tasi iirc. Ideally just merc a nara

lavish spear
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I just rolled an izold should i include him in my lineup(mirael,hogan,arden,daimon,rosaline)

dreamy dust
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Check the guides

dusky mirage
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lineup for 29-54m?

last shell
unkempt field
lament iron
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any comments on my lineup or anything i should change (i’m not stuck)

unkempt field
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Any change in my team?@pale kettle

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Also can her kiss animation be interrupted?

lament iron
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how’s my lineup guys?

mint copper
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What should i change in this lineup expect Brutus-Lucius when i get him? I was thinking of getting rid of Arden because he doesn't seem that good

north tree
lament iron
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What should i change in this lineup expect Brutus-Lucius when i get him? I was thinking of getting rid of Arden because he doesn't seem that good
@mint copper arden ain’t bad early game. try putting rosa up front instead of brutus bcz shell tank a few hits and then move backwards to support ur mirael

mint copper
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Okay thanks

dreamy dust
north tree
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Okay ill try

dreamy dust
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HoganLUL bet

north tree
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Dont work

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@dreamy dust another xcomp ?

dreamy dust
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U gonna have to try it for rng cuz he got it in a lucky rng one
If that doesn't work then i personally dont know cuz everyone said that stage is hard

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kHAHAsos plus i aint there yet

north tree
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Still not working @dreamy dust

dreamy dust
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F

brazen wadi
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Will do kHAHAsos

rocky onyx
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Any advice? Got passed a few stages before getting stuck again

dusty wadi
rich oxide
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@dusty wadi go to rickety cart and reset mirael saveas arden and wu-kong, level them back up to 100 and keep them there. Then level belinda to 140. If you can afterwards level the other 4 to 101.

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@dusty wadi i reccomend using belinda, rosaline, lucius, arden, tasi as a teamcomp

dusty wadi
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Ill try that, thanks man!

rich oxide
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Np lemme know if it works @dusty wadi

dusty wadi
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Wait, Rosaline?

rich oxide
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The french maid character

dusty wadi
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Oooh right

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Ill put her on the crystal tomorrow, ran outta diamonds

rich oxide
#

Yeah early game crystal sucks haha. Since you cant add her now. Try belind, tasi, arden, lucius, wukong. @dusty wadi

dusty wadi
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Ive tried that a few times, ill level up belinda some most damage by far

rich oxide
#

Yeah you should keep your carry hero 40 levels above the others

dusty wadi
#

Saveas has been the goat so far though, he out damages literally everyone else on my team

rich oxide
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Yeah but vs graveborn you'll want a lightbearer. Plus rosaline uses her ult to refill the hero with the highest atk ratings energy completely. If you use saveas as carry he will ult and rosaline will be sorta useless since he can't ult over and over again. So with rosa on crystal your belinda will be able to nuke the enemy twice in less than a second

silk stump
#

LB are weak to GB btw

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They are strong vs maulers

dusty wadi
#

Ill give that a shot tomorrow

silk stump
#

But yeah Belinda and Rosa are a fun combo

dusty wadi
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As ill be able to unlock my next crystal spot tomorrow

rich oxide
#

Oh shit they are.....thats some nonsense

inner mason
#

Not really sure what to do to beat this

rich oxide
#

Switch lyca and eironn and id prob replace lucius with tasi and then put tasi where nemora is. Try that

inner mason
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nahh didnt work rip

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might just need to level up my chracters a bit more

rich oxide
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Yeah probably. Try an arden if you have him

silk stump
#

Could also try upgrading your Hogan to legendary, he might do more than Lucius at that point. Might want to use Saveas as your carry if you go that route

green mesa
silk stump
#

@green mesa have you tried to merc a +30 Eironn?

green mesa
#

I can try that

silk stump
#

Try to have him and Tasi disrupt the Farael and Oden separately

haughty tide
#

What artifacts?

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@pale kettle thanks 🙂

rigid birch
#

can 22-60 be done with gwyneth?

dusty pecan
pale kettle
#

Who should I use?

silk stump
#

@dusty pecan put Rowan in the middle. If Rosa has to run a little further it's worth it for everyone to benefit from his cart.

dusty pecan
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vedan freaking kills everyone tho

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and hes not even the boss, khasos is

thin spire
dusty pecan
#

@thin spire imo

Shemira Estrilda
Rowan Tasi
Thane

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might be bad tho, im not that good, idk

trail stone
bright geyser
#

I need help with Legends, I used to keep top 5 pretty easily but now more and more people are dropping me as low as 18... I don't know why but they're much weaker with less +30s... What I've been doing isn't working anymore so if anyone could give me some ideas for the best defense that would be great, thanks

brazen wadi
pale kettle
#

@thin spire
Daimon
---Shemira
Rowan
---Tasi
Belinda

tepid sequoia
#

@timid nest should I use your rowan or shemira for this? I’m scared if Rowan still couldn’t handle them and have to wait for another week

timid nest
#

Try and see. Mercs don’t go away unless you pass the stage

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You have unlimited use for attempts.

north saddle
tepid sequoia
#

Oh really, I thought only one try every week

pale kettle
dusky mirage
#

what was the lineup for 29-60?

brazen wadi
north saddle
#

Nvm I passed it after the 5millionth try lmao

brittle slate
#

Need a solid team line up

smoky urchin
tidal coyote
#

With whom should i replace savious?

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Saveas*

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And i know i made wrong decisions when i made some guys legendary... noob mistake

stable basin
#

Suggestions for LB tower?

river jungle
stuck trellis
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@brazen wadi same positioning as the SS, but nara out for athalia

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@dusky mirage

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@pale kettle
tasi
lyca
rowan
eironn
daimon

if eironn (with call) can pull at the beginning, or

tasi
lyca
daimon
rowan
eironn

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this is assuming tasi banishes shemira, tell me if she doesnt

onyx basin
stuck trellis
#

its hard to say without seeing your units

onyx basin
stuck trellis
#

you should try to incorporate saurus somehow into your first pvp team
anythign would be better than full LB team in pvp.. haha

onyx basin
#

yeah im looking at these but all of them disturb my other two which work great (most of the time)

stuck trellis
#

hmmm im not the best at pvp lineups sorry lol

brazen wadi
#

Thank you, I'll try it out, if it doesn't work I might not be strong enough, lol

nimble hound
mortal flax
#

@nimble hound can rowan survive the skreg with rng? if yes maybe put tasi instead of brutus in

nimble hound
#

rowan can survive like 1 out of 100 times maybe

mortal flax
#

mh

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does naraing arden change that?

nimble hound
#

no i think my nara and rowan are still too weak compared to enemy levels 😦

mortal flax
#

can asi survive tanking thoran?

nimble hound
#

ohhh she actually can

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but lyca and rowan die straight away

mortal flax
#

lyca can die noone care as long as she buffs the haste

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but her on skreg

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maybe rowan mid and pull top?

nimble hound
#

everything dies in 5 seconds other than eironn when i try

mortal flax
#

what kills you the arden?

nimble hound
#

everything does a fair bit of damage i think

mortal flax
#

okay so the initial burst from arden is pretty deadly

nimble hound
#

yeah i think i get the furtherest when i hook the middle

mortal flax
#

did you try eironn front top and nara middle?

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nvm rowan midde I mean

nimble hound
#

eironn doesnt seem to survive that very often but ill try a few more times

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oh wow that actually worked really well compared to other formations! thanks man. i still cant seem to win but im getting closer than previous iterations

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might just macro and pray for the best for a while

mortal flax
#

you can do it warekheart

jolly stump
#

smh chazu giving bad advices

nimble hound
#

ty friend ❤️

#

do you think my team would be better if i reset eironn and gave the levels to daimon instead?

mortal flax
#

not if you wanna have the flexibility to use eironn frontline

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but if you can just keep him backline yeah

nimble hound
#

i think generally daimon gets at least 1 ult off when i use him behind brutus but i guess that means ill have to permanently keep the brutus in :/

mortal flax
#

I mean you could alsways just try its 20 dia sadly daimon was released after I got my chrystal to 240 so I dont really have earlier experience

nimble hound
#

oh yep fair enough ill give that a go since its so cheap, only worry is that i dont have his tree invested more than 5 pts

mortal flax
#

daimon dont really needs the tree

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0 is fine 15 is pretty nice to have

nimble hound
#

cheeers ill give it a go when i have a free slot on resonator in case i need to switch around quite a bit

clever seal
#

Hello

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What i must choose?

final tangle
clever seal
#

I new player and need wilders.

weak oar
narrow thunder
#

Hi so I noticed Zaphrael and Izold are about 2000 less in might compared to my other heroes so I was wondering if I have anybody that could replace them and would be stronger?

nimble hound
#

that's probably because your gear on zaph and izold isnt as good as what you have on ohter heroes

narrow thunder
#

I have 3 elite on Izold and 2 elite on Zaph and the rest on each are rare. And some other heroes I only have one elite

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Is there any heroes in general that I should be using instead?

nimble hound
#

your other heroes are also Elite+ whereas zaph and izold are only elite level. When levelling from 1 to 160 you should only be levelling and ascending non-ascendable heroes past E+. The most two common non-ascendable carry heroes early game people use are mirael or saveas

narrow thunder
#

Okay the ascending does confuse me a lot because I know it’s said to only ascend certain heroes. I’ll look at the link you sent. Thank you!

split peak
#

@undone coral first off stop making stuff legendary when u dont have enough for L*

undone coral
#

yeah i just started did not know it , but its too late now 😛 thats why i was trying to figure out what to level now , and i need to upgrade so i could xp the toons higher level

split peak
#

I recommend choosing a carry such as mirael for early game or shemira for early to mid game

rotund hare
fathom plaza
ruby lily
#

Cant get past that level. Any ideas?

raw tapir
#

My suggestion would be to try and grind for more hero exp and then give it a shot
I'd also suggest replacing someone with Lucius

tender iris
#

Hey guys, I’ve been struggling to pass levels and feel kinda stuck. I’m hoping it’s a formation thing that one of the more experienced players could help me with. I’ve been playing for about 3 days and have had a lot of fun, but am just sitting in the middle of world 7 making no progress

torpid wharf
#

Does anyone know how I might be able to improve my line up to increase damage, Vedan heals too fast and Golus and Vedan are too Tanky

slim moss
proud egret
#

Any suggestions on a good team to start building?

fickle loom
#

@proud egret go to #classic-questions read the first two pins then ask generic team building help there, this chat is specifically for lineups for specific stages

dense granite
tall current
silk stump
#

@tall current stick with Mirael/Rosa til 160

unborn lichen
#

I can reset if need be

silk stump
#

@dense granite stick with wu kong til 100. Level the rare heroes from the guide, until you transition to Mirael or Saveas. Retire all your green heroes in the rickety cart

tall current
#

@tall current stick with Mirael/Rosa til 160
@silk stump thank you kind sir 😄

dense granite
#

don't i need 4 others at 60 for wu kong to be 100?

silk stump
#

@unborn lichen same, use wu kong and level rare heroes till 100, then transition to Mirael/Saveas

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Saveas, Mirael, Hogan, Arden, Silvania

dense granite
#

why would i not level up the elites?

fickle loom
silk stump
#

@dense granite Elite heroes are capped at 100 and are much more difficult to ascend than rare heroes. You're goal is to get your max level of your resonating crystal higher - which happens more quickly by first focusing on rare heroes

fickle loom
#

@true wharf who is (your) tasi banishing

unborn lichen
#

Any tips?

fickle loom
#

...you're playing with 3 heroes and no support. stop doing that. read the first pin in #classic-questions especially the team building section

unborn lichen
#

I only acquired enough XP to level the 3 heros.

fickle loom
#

100/60/60/60/60 > 80/80/80/0/0

dusky mirage
#

is there a proven best wrizz comp?

fickle loom
#

yes.

dusky mirage
#

im using the top one currently, was also wondering if it was outdated

silk stump
#

Warek grezhul might replace Belinda and lorsan

fickle loom
#

there's a much more straightforward one but that one's basically for maxed everything, this one is better in that it tells you what you should be focusing on and what can be swapped in based on what you have. then again if you have everything that's not a problem.

#

@lucid sorrel wrong chat read the pins in #classic-questions (and read the pins here for what this chat is)

lucid sorrel
#

@lucid sorrel wrong chat read the pins in #classic-questions (and read the pins here for what this chat is)
@fickle loom sorry

ebon cave
pale kettle
#

Anyone have a lineup for 30-26? Only one I have is Lyca Rowan Tasi Safiya Eironn and haven't had any luck with that setup

dusky mirage
#

@fickle loom so what would that comp be?

unborn lichen
#

So I'm a bit more unaware of the games functionality more than most. I'm not understanding what teams I should be using. My original goal was to acquire 1 mythic. Essentially by getting diamonds and acquiring packs from the tavern. I have heros just not the duplicated ones needed. How can I solve my current deliema and come out on top to actually progress in the game further and not being stuck so much. In base terms please explain. I don't typically play this style of gaming. These are my heroes I can use. I can do a reset and do as instructed.

lucid sorrel
#

@lucid sorrel wrong chat read the pins in #classic-questions (and read the pins here for what this chat is)
@fickle loom ... i was doing exactly what it said?

true wharf
#

@fickle loom Shemira

fickle loom
#

@lucid sorrel clearly not

When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool or the campaign stage that you are stuck and try to explain what you exactly need because just saying "help me” is not specific enough to help you.

silk stump
#

@unborn lichen you should be reading the guides and trying to understand them fully. We're here to help but not play for you. If there's something you're not understanding with the guide, those are the questions to ask. Asking which heroes to use isn't going to help

ebon cave
#

Wat about me two heal or one?

unborn lichen
#

Interesting format. Okay I see.

fickle loom
#

#classic-questions helps you build your heroes, #lineup-help uses what you already have to try and beat specific stages. if you're low leveled, 99% you need generic building help not stage help. and this is already explained in the pins if you actually read it.

lucid sorrel
#

but this chat says to put ss of your hero pool and so on, is that also allowed in questions?

unborn lichen
#

Try putting specifics in the beginning for players who freshly join the discord. It would help direct newer people to proper channels.

fickle loom
#

yes.

lucid sorrel
#

thanks for letting me know, fish

silk stump
#

@ebon cave two healers is fine as both serve a secondary role

lucid sorrel
#

Let’s try this again. I’ve been using the first four (left to right) in the top row and switching the 5th, usually with wukong and numisu. I’m stuck on 9-36, any tips on making a better lineup or who to level up?

silk stump
#

@lucid sorrel Gwyn is not a good carry early game, that should be Mirael or Saveas spot. You have a lot of heroes leveled, you should only be focusing on 5, that's a lot of exp you could be using to level up your starting team

#

I would suggest
Rosa

Lucius
Mirael
Skreg
Nemora

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Arden can replace Nemora in some fights

lucid sorrel
#

should i level gwyn more and use her later?

silk stump
#

I'm also going to be that guy and say you should read the guides in #classic-questions again because it doesn't seem like you're following them much. They are there for a reason

pale kettle
silk stump
#

@lucid sorrel no, you should reset her. Reset all but 5 heroes, which should be the 5 from the guide

lucid sorrel
#

I'm also going to be that guy and say you should read the guides in #classic-questions again because it doesn't seem like you're following them much. They are there for a reason
@silk stump i literally just joined the server like 20 min ago so i haven't finished reading them yet, i just wanted some input

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@lucid sorrel no, you should reset her. Reset all but 5 heroes, which should be the 5 from the guide
@silk stump i have heard she is useful, when would you suggest focusing on her?

silk stump
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@lucid sorrel understood, just wanted to reiterate how important and helpful they are

#

@lucid sorrel She's great end game, but requires very high levels (221) and a very specific team

indigo crypt
silk stump
#

She's a character you plan to use for the future but don't touch right now

indigo crypt
#

I really dont know what i can do to improve. I have to rely on the RNG of the summoning to ascend my heroes

lucid sorrel
#

got it, but keep lucius and skreg?

fickle loom
pale kettle
#

Hmm, I'l give it a try

fickle loom
#

@indigo crypt 1 tank 4 attackers. that is not a team that is a lot of toothpicks. there are team comp guides in here or in the pins in #classic-questions but tl;dr 1 tank 1 carry 3 support

silk stump
#

@indigo crypt read the guides in #classic-questions. You should reset those heroes, get a 5th rare hero to L+, and level that hero and your first 4 to 160.

grave minnow
#

Hey, what's a good early game team for Daimon? Or a good support team for Daimon to level with? Something to shoot for.

fickle loom
indigo crypt
#

Oh okay ty ty friends

silk stump
#

@lucid sorrel you can keep skreg and lucius in your team, but I'd still reset them and put them on your crystal instead

grave minnow
#

Haha okay, sorry I figured it belonged here.

worn dagger
fickle loom
worn dagger
#

Ok thx

peak igloo
fickle loom
#

no

peak igloo
#

Anything I should switch out

silk stump
#

Fish is fed up tonight lol

pale kettle
#

i dont blame him lol

silk stump
worthy island
lament iron
pale kettle
#

@worthy island do you have Lorsan

lament iron
#

i’m stuck :/

silk stump
#

Try Belinda up front

lament iron
#

Yup that worked

worthy island
#

@pale kettle yea at L+

fickle loom
#

@worthy island talene thoran lorsan rowan eironn, maybe, kind of need to see fight or know what's happening to adjust

brazen wadi
pale kettle
plain cradle
pale kettle
#

Lyca
Eironn
Tasi
Rowan
Safiya

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Also try with fera instead of saf

fickle loom
#

pull the arden w/eironn or charm it with nemora

pale kettle
#

And call on eironn so he can pull arden

plain cradle
#

Thank you, i'll try! 🙂

worthy island
#

@worthy island Sorry took me a while to find it
@pale kettle nemora refuses to die XD im gonna keep trying

pale kettle
#

Good luck! I'm still stuck on it myself...

full grail
#

Hey yall

#

I just started today and could use a little help 😆

fickle loom
#

why not just beat the level normally tho you have the tools for it

worthy island
#

It worked! Thanks a ton @pale kettle

#

@fickle loom do you mean me? I tried for a bit but coudlnt figure it out. Also, i just upgraded thoran to +30 after people suggested and so i wanted to try it out

full grail
#

End of the day, does it really matter what heroes you ascend?

#

Which blue heroes

#

Im assuming that eventually they just get fed into the machine of making higher grade high tier heroes

pale kettle
#

Eventually yeah. Saveas and Mireal are the major two being carries. This is more of a #classic-questions question though

fickle loom
#

i can understand wanting to try a "new" hero you just got. just curious cause you have all the main meta heroes and i don't remember 30-26 being particularly hard and i was lower leveled lol.

pale kettle
#

I've been running it for the past couple hours while watching youtube with different eironn setups

fickle loom
#

maybe i got lucky lol

pale kettle
#

I'm 308, 33 tree and I've seen clears as low as 294 so idk if I'm unlucky or what

fickle loom
#

@pale kettle oh nvm, it's utaklamok's screenshot that's higher leveled, not you xD not that far off tho i was 311

pale kettle
#

Yeah I haven't cleared it yet 😦

#

Do you remember your artifacts fish?

fickle loom
#

not sure if i did it before or after artifact update, but i used to do eironn eye rowan chalice tasi call ferael eye lyca eye

worthy island
#

@fickle loom yea i’m pretty sure other people can beat these a lot better than me. In my defense, i don’t really spend time trying to beat campaign stages unless i get a spike that’ll allow me to get past like 30 stages or smth

fickle loom
#

have now swapped to mostly eironn call, but occasionally eye/blade still does better.

pale kettle
#

I just started to push chapters after stalling the first few in 30. Went from 30-3 to 30-26 yesterday and been stuck here since

fickle loom
#

(and idk i just like making rowan tanky so chalice lol, also i feel like 3 calls is a bit pushing it. i know people do that and it still works, not my thing.)

pale kettle
#

My issue is whoever is in front of athalia just gets oneshot

fickle loom
#

hmm as you can see, my rowan survived athalia dive lol. maybe you should try chalice too kek

pale kettle
#

I'll give that a try

#

Nope still wrecked :/

south grail
#

I’m stuck where I am so just looking for better formations

fickle loom
#

how's your gear situation, my rowan's had t2 weapon/boots + t1 other slots for a while now.

@south grail wrong chat read the pins in #classic-questions

pale kettle
#

Rowan is full T2

#

He doesn't die but everyone else still does lol

fickle loom
#

oh i see, yeah idk i think my main team is just too overgeared/buffed now, ch30 felt easier than 29 by far to me xd

pale kettle
#

Eiron Ferael and Rowan all Faction T2. Tasi T2 except weapon, and Lyca is T2 faction weapon chest, T1 helm, off faction boots

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So almost all done except for like 3 slots

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Eironn 6/9 furniture, Lyca 5/9, Ferael 6/9, Rowan 3/9 the rest 1-2

lavish spear
fickle loom
#

if you can, maybe push to 310/311 i guess. i think the 10's still provide a decent power spike. (and 311 is just the last level for floor 308 of twisted realm, so. xd)

pale kettle
#

hm i can open some chests

#

That was a lot closer

fickle loom
#

gl 0.0

pale kettle
#

huzzah, finally cleared it. Ended up swaping Saf back in after dying a bunch with farael

fickle loom
pale kettle
#

and of course the next fight has anotehr tasi lol.

fickle loom
#

it's strange because most people typically go for safiya when they see tasi, and consider ferael making tasi blink one of the "wrong" things to do, but i've always found it easier using ferael against tasi than safiya. i'm really not sure why this is, it's just one of those things (like my meh experience using daimon and phoenix's lyca being bad lol)

pale kettle
#

My daimon is A and i havent used him in campaign yet tbh

#

I've had more sucsess with Saf against tasi much more than Ferael. I think its really just luck though

atomic lodge
#

@atomic lodge better twins to survive more , thats bout it
They prolly die in first half of the battle or something like that
If they stay till the end, u will make it
Also use warek or lorsan instead of talene
Way more dmg
@dreamy dust

inner mason
#

Any ideas for a good starting team? Currently at 6-4

grave canyon
fickle loom
#

put the rowan down you wanna give eironn energy not lyca

#

and if tasi is dying to gorvo just let lyca die instead

torn valve
#

I am always 1 ult from getting the win, any other formations I should try or just try rng it

delicate timber
#

Is my second team okay or should it be something else? I’ve been stuck for a minute lol

fickle loom
#

@torn valve why is safiya frontline your athalia counter ._. also why do you have three carries on your field where's your rowan lol. drop the safiya let lyca die to athalia let tasi front and put rowan in back middle maybe

#

@delicate timber a minute is not called stuck ._.

delicate timber
#

It’s a figure of speech, but of course I have had many retries out into this stage so far

latent wagon
#

on 31-4 i think i cheesed first team, but don't remember well

fickle loom
#

you didn't exactly post what else you have and also i have no clue whether a low daimon works like that. also who even is that rosaline following in 2nd comp lol

covert condor
#

Thoran second

delicate timber
#

@covert condor thanks

fickle loom
#

i just beat it by slapping on 4 graveborns and getting lucky /shrug

covert condor
#

Thoran lineup for second has athalia and fera i think . I lost screen

fickle loom
#

@copper leaf wrong chat, there's no day one luck only month one luck

copper leaf
#

sorry, you are right wrong chat. lineup made the most sense

lavish spear
#

my current lineup is mirael,hogan,arden,daimon and rosaline.any changes I should make in my lineup and in my crystal?

rich oxide
#

I would use mirael, rosaline, rowan, cecillia, hendrik,. Hendrik is a good tank, rosa and rowan will help heal and provide energy for mirael, cecillia has a 60% atk reduction if you position her on the same position as the enemy dps. Put hendrik in slot 1. Rowan in slot 2 mirael in slot 4 and then swap rosaline and cecillia around whenever you need cecillia in a different position. @lavish spear

nova cosmos
smoky urchin
rich oxide
#

Reset lyca and level shemira to 180. Try 1. Lyca 2. Shemira. 3. Nemora 4. Nara 5. Tasi @smoky urchin

smoky urchin
#

Ok

rich oxide
#

Lemme know if it works

lavish spear
#

I would use mirael, rosaline, rowan, cecillia, hendrik,. Hendrik is a good tank, rosa and rowan will help heal and provide energy for mirael, cecillia has a 60% atk reduction if you position her on the same position as the enemy dps. Put hendrik in slot 1. Rowan in slot 2 mirael in slot 4 and then swap rosaline and cecillia around whenever you need cecillia in a different position. @lavish spear
@rich oxide okay thanks so much :) what about my crystal tho

rich oxide
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@lavish spear read the ascension article. Use leg+ max heros as your manually leveled heros since they're easier to get to legendary+

lavish spear
#

okay but like out of all my heroes who should i crystal

torn valve
#

@fickle loom for some reason, I have to use safiya to get my tasi to banish the enemy tasi, i want to drop evironn, but then I'll be under levelled.

fickle loom
#

@torn valve oh i JUST noticed that your tasi is super low leveled, that explains a lot. sorry xd
lyca thoran - eironn rowan daimon
^ i'd try that maybe

torn valve
#

Okay ty

#

Is it possible to stop tasis banish with like random rng

clear fjord
fickle loom
#

don't think so, best you can do is keep tasi stunned (pretty hard cause she blinks away), freeze (basically eironn), keep her blinking (bad cause she does a lot of damage if she's allowed to lol), or break out of banish with fawkes ult or something.

nova cosmos
lavish spear
patent tartan
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How is my lineup

rich oxide
#

Athalia
Hogan
Mirael
Rosaline
Arden
@lavish spear

lavish spear
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yeah thank you but I got destroyed just before you said it :D

rich oxide
#

Use a duras tear then to revive xD

wet pawn
worldly wharf
#

Who is Fawkes cofines?

wet pawn
#

Morvus

worldly wharf
#

You can try to switch nara with tasi to get banish in saveas

wet pawn
#

Hmm ok I try ty

drifting sapphire
#

Please help I made a huge mistake by choosing a wagon in hard labyrinth mode. I cannot beat this guy

wet pawn
#

It works a lot better @worldly wharf still cant clear but I just need RNG I think. Thank You.

worldly wharf
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glad to hear 😄 gl

fickle loom
#

@drifting sapphire lol f, never go wagon, it's pointlessly hard and you don't even get anything good out of it. if you have a couple levels coming up, do it tomorrow before reset, otherwise just skip this lab and call it a loss lol

drifting sapphire
#

@fickle loom Lol found out the hard way indeed. Never going to do this again 😂

odd warren
frank ridge
#

Try belinda lucius rowan rosaline arden

lavish spear
#

just added rowan to my lineup and it's like my team is 2 times stronger now,but idk if I got the positioning right

odd warren
#

My lucius isn't tanky enough and my bellinda is beeing delete before doing more than 20k dps :/
Well i'll gona wait a week leveling belinda to 180

pale kettle
copper peak
peak igloo
eternal totem
rigid birch
#

this is a gwyneth stage tbh

small acorn
#

@eternal totem let me find ss

eternal totem
#

@rigid birch tried with Arthur merc, still impossible with 2h of retries

@small acorn thanks

rigid birch
small acorn
fickle loom
#

@eternal totem does your tasi get ults off in that position

eternal totem
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nope

ill try both formations, but im like 15 less levels

fickle loom
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rowan - safiya | tasi - athalia - eironn
rowan - lyca | tasi - athalia - eironn
rowan - lyca | safiya - athalia - eironn

eternal totem
#

@eternal totem
@rigid birch this one almost worked, ill try with better rng

rigid birch
#

ayt gl

tawdry venture
#

Is this a good team comp? So far it hasn’t fail me but i could go for a better team comp

ruby lily
#

If it hasnt failed you keep going for now. Get as much as you can while you can but you do have mostly damage dealers. You usually want 1 damage dealer (wukong at your level) 1 tank (maybe lucius) and. 3 supports @tawdry venture

tawdry venture
#

Ah

ruby lily
#

But at your level you can basically do anything

tawdry venture
#

Cuz Lucius’s ult gives everyone shields and that shield is pretty thicc (I’m also new so yeah)

ruby lily
#

Yeah same. I've been playing nearly a week. I'm just saying what ppl always say lmao

tawdry venture
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Ok thx

ruby lily
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But def use 1 carry (dps) 1 tank and 3 supports

tawdry venture
#

I often think Wukong is a half dps half support while the purple one (who I forgot the name) is the dps carry

ruby lily
#

We should take this conversation out of lineup help. Dm me if you wanna

eternal totem
pale kettle
fickle loom
#

np gg lol

vagrant rain
pale kettle
#

@vagrant rain can you post your hero box?

vagrant rain
pale kettle
#

also, who is your carry in that comp, Safi or Eironn?

vagrant rain
#

Eironn suppose, been changing safiya for ferael quite often

pale kettle
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@vagrant rain Cuz the way im thinking, there are a few options I can see

#1. Like you said, swap Safiya for Ferael in order to get off that fear and energy reduction for Eironn to carry

#2. Swap Safi for Talene, I say this b/c who ever is infront of the Thane is essentially gonna die instantly due to Thane starting cc + Saveas stupid damage, Talene will survive and scale while also providing support

#3. Try Gwyneth comp as that is a 4 mauler team and Arthur should be capable of surviving Thane + Saveas while Rowan won't be

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at the end of the day it's going to come down to multiple replays though most likely

eternal totem
pale kettle
#

honestly, swap Tasi and Eironn and you should be fine

eternal totem
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Nah it ain't fine, arden roots everyone and I can't pull the skreg

pale kettle
#

im on that stage right now, let me try

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okay, first try done, only difference between my and your comp is I used fera instead of safi, and positioning

eternal totem
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Send ss please

pale kettle
#

i did

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Fera
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Lyca

eternal totem
#

What cristal level?

pale kettle
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299

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but 285 should also work, im just over leveled

eternal totem
#

Yeah I'll give it more tries. Thanks

pale kettle
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no problem

fickle loom
pale kettle
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so i was right about using fera, nice

fickle loom
#

i've never had trouble with thane killing stuff early though, most of the problem is thane not dying until the end of fight when half the team is gone and then he picks off remaining members.

pale kettle
#

yeah, my issue with thane start is his isntant cc if you dont use rowan or doge tank, and rolling into that saveas hurts, otherwise i agree, the issue with thane is last minute picks

fickle loom
#

@eternal totem kinda hard to position that one when your tasi can't front yet but i'd try lyca - rowan | ferael - tasi - eironn maybe (= my focus is locking down arden)

pale kettle
lament iron
#

any tips for this stage? The fucking vedan just keeps getting his super and shreds my entire team with it.

valid comet
fickle loom
#

shemira brutus tasi lyca arden // after this stage reset shemira get belinda to 180 and where's your rosaline/rowan

lament iron
#

any tips for this stage? The fucking vedan just keeps getting his super and shreds my entire team with it.
@lament iron ???

echo sierra
#

Good morning! My wife and I just started playing and this is her lineup. Any recommendations for core 5 and maybe 2-3 for crystal for her to start?

fickle loom
#

to everyone in this chat pre lv180: go to #classic-questions read the pins there especially the team comp area in the first pin. and also read the pins here because this channel is for specific stages not generic help.

echo sierra
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oops ty!

lament iron
#

okay i asked for a specific stage. any tips for me? @fickle loom

fickle loom
#

@lament iron i can barely see what heroes you have and honestly there's nothing to do at low levels besides level the right heroes, get some supports and be patient. 99% of "lineup" problems at low level is a problem with what heroes you're building and not whether you're placing your heroes in the right place.

lament iron
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@lament iron i can barely see what heroes you have and honestly there's nothing to do at low levels besides level the right heroes, get some supports and be patient. 99% of "lineup" problems at low level is a problem with what heroes you're building and not whether you're placing your heroes in the right place.
@fickle loom

Are my heros leveled good?
I mean from the ones u can see haha

fickle loom
#

@lament iron wrong chat ask in #classic-questions with an actual post of all your heroes and i may consider answering, or someone else might.

rich oxide
#

This is lineup help...

valid comet
#

@fickle loom i am unlucky no rosaline and rowan is e+

uncut stone
rigid birch
#

reset everyone to 100 and get bel to 140

valid comet
uncut stone
#

reset everyone to 100 and get bel to 140
@rigid birch doesnt that just make my team weaker bc they cant tank for bel?

rigid birch
#

carries should be at max level and then you start working on the rest

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also bel can tank since she's overleveled now, so you can just put her with brutus in the frontline

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if you dont have brutus skreg can survive a bit too

lament iron
#

This is lineup help...
@rich oxide was gonna say that lmao

fickle loom
#

also where the hell is your rowan

eternal totem
fickle loom
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@nova quest why are you forcing LB carry against graveborns ;; ferael rowan | lyca tasi eironn is what i'll try i wanna put tasi in front of thoran but i'm afraid of her dying

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@eternal totem i haven't been paying attention to gorvo but the only way to test that would be to throw a disruptor on him, athalia/nara/idk, i don't think there's any way other heroes cast their skills fast enough. that's why imo rowan is terrible in front of gorvo, he ded liek dat

nova quest
#

@nova quest why are you forcing LB carry against graveborns ;; ferael rowan | lyca tasi eironn is what i'll try i wanna put tasi in front of thoran but i'm afraid of her dying
@fickle loom

But they just die lol

eternal totem
#

Yeah but I need a fast eironn ult to lock down arden, and if arden isn't there he doesn't ult :/ @fickle loom

fickle loom
#

@eternal totem even with eironn call?

proven pecan
fickle loom
#

@nova quest they shouldn't unless your gear is terrible, you're overleveled ._.

eternal totem
#

@eternal totem even with eironn call?
@fickle loom yep

nova quest
#

I think I just suck at the game...

fickle loom
#

@eternal totem try rowan middle back i guess, ferael + lyca front?

nova quest
versed briar
nova quest
#

Do I gear up eiorn or lyca ?

fickle loom
eternal totem
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@fickle loom I'll it for the rng and dodges

fickle loom
#

@eternal totem you're making me appreciate getting a strong tasi before i even had a strong eironn lol, she fronts gorvo like it's nothing most of the time.

limpid holly
fickle loom
limpid holly
#

Its for my line up though? So wouldnt it be here

versed briar
fickle loom
#

@versed briar most people say that if you can start a stage, you can beat it. it just takes time and patience.

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@limpid holly well you can keep asking then but i'm not answering cause wrong channel

limpid holly
#

Then I don't need your help lmao

fickle loom
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

dreamy dust
#

@atomic lodge gg on 1bil dmg

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I told lorsan or warek will get u wrizz

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@limpid holly athalia cant replace erionn
Plus u will take 6months to a year to ascend athalia (dont ezizth is better(

limpid holly
#

Kinda figured it would take forever to do so lol. So might as well start using erionn right? @dreamy dust

dreamy dust
#

Use em when he is mythic 161+

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Rn he will be just a suicide bomb to ur team since he aint strong enough yet to be a carry or cc the enemy..etc

limpid holly
#

Alright bet. My heros are in the 120-140 range so a little stuck ngl

nova quest
#

gear on eironn. also idk then lol your gear isn't that bad
@fickle loom

I think I need more stars 😂

fickle loom
#

@nova quest no stars are pointless until lv360 or so (when level scaling starts ramping up each star you add more)

nova quest
#

Ah ok

fickle loom
#

basically something like: 100 * 2% = 2 = useless, 120 * 2% = 2.4 = useless, 140 * 2% = 2.8= useless ... 20 years 100 levels and various gear/furniture added on later ... 800 * 2% * 5 stars = 80 = not so useless anymore

nova quest
#

I managed to clear that anoyying stage anyways

fickle loom
#

i don't know the exact math and i'm too lazy for it you'll need whitesushi level dedication there, but that's the idea kHAHAsos
also gg on clear!

eternal totem
#

@eternal totem you're making me appreciate getting a strong tasi before i even had a strong eironn lol, she fronts gorvo like it's nothing most of the time.
@fickle loom I mean mine is almost full T2 hear lol. Next choice pull reset I'll take her to ascended

rigid birch
#

i pushed 3 chapters with ascended tasi lmao

eternal totem
#

Stop making me feel ashamed of my little fairy WAAAHsos

rigid birch
fickle loom
eternal totem
#

Is the gorvo slam unavoidable or sth?

little root
#

hendrik saves isa who ults me to death all the time

latent wagon
#

tasi banishing fara?

little root
#

yeah

latent wagon
#

i'd try

tasi
--eirr
row
--lyca
saf

rigid birch
#

@eternal totem no its dodgeable

eternal totem
#

Could it be done with daimon? 🤔

little root
#

well isa's auto attack just oneshots him @latent wagon

eternal totem
fickle loom
#

why does my daimon never do that he's even 3/3 20 SI ffs
i mean, grats...

latent wagon
#

well isa's auto attack just oneshots him @latent wagon
@little root then i'll keep try ur formation since seems fine, With my it's all on eirron speed , if he can grab is fine but if he can't then gg

eternal totem
#

Idk how he did it, I even forgot to put him gear

fickle loom
#

even when he finally wins something for me, his numbers are not exactly impressive.

latent wagon
#

even when he finally wins something for me, his numbers are not exactly impressive.
@fickle loom well you're playing an extra aggresive team xD

tidal coyote
#

Who should take saveas spot?

eternal totem
#

@fickle loom yeah I also find him extremely rng, at leats at M. I usually need more retries with him than eironn/saf

fickle loom
#

banshee screech << generic help belongs in #classic-questions this channel is for help with specific stages (and usually you only need lineup help after lv160 at the earliest, but even then we need to see what you're actually facing smh)

rotund hare
valid comet
nova quest
fickle loom
#

@valid comet the awkward thing is, your belinda should have been higher leveled than anyone else already, but this IS a graveborn stage and also she's not the best and this stage would always have been hard for you even if you leveled the "right" hero (aka belinda). but anyway you should put your main damage against grezhul not niru, grez at least needs time to ramp up so you can kill him early, niru very rarely dies first.

valid comet
#

I just Got the last copy last night to make her A

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Also that positioning is just after trying a lot seeing what seemed better i typically have the shemira in the spot you are saying.

brittle juniper
sly cobalt
lilac shard
#

I am getting stomped and not sure what to do, bring new player, on 5-24

fickle loom
#

@brittle juniper can your tasi front kaz
@sly cobalt not much i can think of tbh, lyca is pretty much stuck at that spot unless your tasi can escape nara's clutches often enough. i did eironn in front of skreg and rowan safiya up top personally.

graceful coral
sly cobalt
#

@fickle loom so your lineup was

fickle loom
#

rowan eironn safiya lyca tasi...surely i wasn't that hard to understand was i kHAHAsos

sly cobalt
#

ah thanks, didnt knkow that tasi was in the back

toxic skiff
sly cobalt
#

@fickle loom thanks I passed it!

fickle loom
#

@sly cobalt grats lol

unkempt field
#

Should I reset Belinda and make Shemira 180 ?

stiff plaza
#

What team should i make

feral creek
tulip phoenix
#

@feral creek build mirael or saveas. Also not recommended to ascend anything besides having 8 copies

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@stiff plaza don’t level more than 5 heroes. Saveas makes a good carry early on try to ascend him and make him highest level

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@unkempt field try swapping Eironn for athalia

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@toxic skiff prioritise making ascended heroes and not just at mythic

vale onyx
brittle juniper
#

@fickle loom she can take plenty hits

fickle loom
#

wut now

unkempt field
#

Doesn't work.

brittle juniper
#

"Can your Tasi front Kaz?"

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For my dumb 30-26 D:

torpid wharf
#

Does anyone know how I might be able to improve my line up to increase damage, Vedan heals too fast and Golus and Niru are too tanky

severe blaze
#

Any good lineups i should go with?

mild geyser
peak ingot
#

Any ideas ?

untold ginkgo
#

Do you have saf?

hushed wadi
timid jetty
#

Not lineup help as much as Relic help, is there any better relics that I could use on these 5?

lost marlin
#

Not sure how to progress

sharp isle
#

Can someone tell me who should I prioritize in leveling and who should I aim in getting

wild pollen
barren river
pale kettle
#

@wild pollen, You have 3 legendary and no L+... It's a waste a food. For the beginning, use heroes like saveas and Arden. Complete with the 3 wilder : tasi/arden, eironn, lyca and nemo

#

A lot of are in the early game so if they are no response... Don't post again. They are a lot of compo for the early game here

toxic flame
#

@sharp isle wu kong should be ur lvl 100 carry. Rosa/rowan are great supports. Saurua should go on crystal. Start building mirael to replace wu kong as carry until lvl 160. Ascend fodder tier heroes to L+ before investing in ascended tier heroes.

mint copper
#

I've tried replacing arden with tasi/fawkes. Artifacts: Mirael - Eye, Lucius - Call, Rowan - Grace

crude elk
spice flax
spice flax
#

@spice flax
Lyca
Eironn
Nara
Rowan
Safiya
@pale kettle safiya is only +10

fickle pelican
#

Need help with 2nd line up for 31-4

woven quartz
cosmic kayak
inner mason
#

Any tips?

steady imp
pale kettle
brazen wadi
eternal totem
#

Please help me. I am Stuck since Weeks. Attila kills everything !
@steady imp you need a cele hero to dodge her attacks. I did it with eironn/saf and lyca tanking athalia, but idk about you. Maybe talene?

pliant flume
worldly wharf
coarse cradle
brazen wadi
stuck trellis
brazen wadi
stuck trellis
#

@eternal totem

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@brazen wadi

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people have told me that ferael 30 is not nessescary, but it definetly does make it less rng

eternal totem
#

@stuck trellis yeah I used that line up for like an hour and got 0 luck pensivelucius

stuck trellis
#

only an hour tiduslaugh
nah seriously though, its a tasi brutus stage so it will take lots of retries. just keep going for it and it will wokr eventually smug_dolly
@eternal totem

eternal totem
#

I fucking hate brutus stages isabellarage

mental token
agile dawn
#

I am stuck in this stage. This line up got me through a lot of hard chapters but can't beat this one. It's better to put Belinda away from the 2 graveborns but Mirael burns her to cinders there and estrilda keeps knocking her down and reduces her attack which isn't useful since she is my main carry.

Any advices or should I just wait for next week and try with different mercenary?

#

Chapter 13-39 btw

brazen wadi
#

Did it, took a while, lol

random garnet
stuck trellis
#

@brazen wadi congrats on 30 warekheart

brazen wadi
#

Thank you thank you tasssi

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Now I'll be here for a month tasi

dreamy dust
#

@agile dawn u are usin a very weird back line
Only 1 carry , either safiya or belinda
Then put 2 supports like tasi to banish or lyca...etc

#

And stop usin raine ffs
Wasted food smh

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@random garnet ur solution for athalia is someone who can dodge alot and pray for rng

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Also u could use daimon for better carry than shemira

leaden iris
#

I’m trying to switch out some people that I have a person for higher on the tier list that got me 5k power but can I change more

#

Because 20,000 power isn’t like a few levels that’s a bad hero

rotund hare
pale kettle
#

So i has wu kong, arden, brutus, ogi, who is best fifth

onyx basin
leaden iris
#

And I’m buried

random garnet
#

I've been praying a lot and no results 😭. I'll keep trying. Thanks

@dreamy dust

dreamy dust
#

Ezio might do it for u@random garnet

silk stump
#

@slender siren is your Rowan +30? He can tank there. Also, who does Tasi banish?
@leaden iris don't use tier list, follow the guides pinned in #classic-questions
@pale kettle follow the guides in #classic-questions

dreamy dust
#

@rotund hare never have 2 carries in a team
Either erionn or shemira then put a support

random garnet
#

@dreamy dust

Rng is toying with me... Shemira and rowan vs athalia and lucius... athalia ults then game over 😭

NVM, rng made it up and let me win. 🥰

slender siren
#

@slender siren is your Rowan +30? He can tank there. Also, who does Tasi banish?

@silk stump Tasi banish Shemira

silk stump
#

@slender siren sorry i meant your Tasi

slender siren
#

@slender siren sorry i meant your Tasi
@silk stump Lyca

eternal totem
silk stump
#

@slender siren maybe swap rowan and Shemira and time his ult so it goes off once she's unbanished

mild geyser
onyx basin
#

Anyone?

dreamy dust
#

@mild geyser u not gonna beat it even if u merc god himself
U need way more power

eternal totem
#

@onyx basin what about nara/athalia on mehira?

dreamy dust
#

Anyone?
@onyx basin id dm some high lvl players in the #classic-chat if i was at ur place

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homegalul i think 1% of this server at tower 500 so

rotund hare
#

I’m just trying to pass the stage. That was a merc. Any actual helpful information? @dreamy dust

mild geyser
#

Alright guess I’ll just get 60% and unlock next one. When did u beat that PoT?

dreamy dust
#

@rotund hare put nemora instead of shemira and try to take down arden with erionn maybe

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Alright guess I’ll just get 60% and unlock next one. When did u beat that PoT?
@mild geyser i took some time to beat it since its not easy at all but props to for reachin there at that lvl
Wait till u can be at least 50%+ of the power

mild geyser
#

Alright thanks

dreamy dust
#

warekheart np

acoustic wren
eternal totem
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@rotund hare try:
Ferael
-Eironn
Rowan evenf if he is E+
-Lucius
Tasi

dreamy dust
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Dont put shemira infront of a kaz
In fact never put any mage infront of kaz
Thats already a one shot

acoustic wren
#

Yeah its a oneshot on everything

dreamy dust
#

Maybe try erionn with lyca rowan
Brutus estrilda but i doubt ur own erionn gonna do it

acoustic wren
#

Estrilda and Brutus too

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Yeah my eironn is pretty poopie still

dreamy dust
#

homegalul oh nvm u need a merc then if u aint surviving anything (reason u should over level ur carry n not split the lvls like that(

eternal totem
#

You have gear on heroes? Because you are just ~15 levels below

acoustic wren
#

Aight I will start funneling Shemira

dreamy dust
#

Its only 8 lvls but i think its cuz he split the dust n not over level

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And that stage already hard cuz of the wilder cc arden shit

mild geyser
#

@acoustic wren this is a stretch but I beat it with belinda in front of kaz. If u can time it so that she ults on kaz without dodging then u should kill her. I also had an Arden that cced the Arden before theirs

dreamy dust
#

I wiped that stage cuz i had a lvl200+ shemira im pretty sure

acoustic wren
#

Everything I use is geared

eternal totem
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Dust doesn't matter because shem is 180, and he needed to pass the 160 wall. Try with athalia on arden for initial CC @acoustic wren

acoustic wren
#

But I dont have a good Arden so I think I will just hyperlevel the shemira

dreamy dust
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@acoustic wren this is a stretch but I beat it with belinda in front of kaz. If u can time it so that she ults on kaz without dodging then u should kill her. I also had an Arden that cced the Arden before theirs
@mild geyser kaz gonna one shot her before even gettin to her ult unless she is overleveled n can tank kaz(not in his case)

acoustic wren
#

Athalia on the bottom front spot?

mild geyser
#

Nah I had mine at 180. My Arden cced the kaz and Arden before theirs

acoustic wren
#

To cc kaz or shohd I put her somewhere else

dreamy dust
#

Dust doesn't matter because shem is 180, and he needed to pass the 160 wall. Try with athalia on arden for initial CC @acoustic wren
@eternal totem elite athalia will get one shotted
Its good as an elite nara or erionn lul

eternal totem
#

Nah, all he need is to interrupt the initial roots. Also getting to level 200 for this shit os overkill

dreamy dust
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But what he said on arden cc could work in theory
(His Belinda got the ult cuz of arden cc)

acoustic wren
#

Then what formation should I give a shot

dreamy dust
#

Well overlevel is the point of overkill..
(Could still work at 180 but chances gonna be slim with arden against u unless u do sum bout it)