lineup-help

[inland egret]

swap fawkes and estilda on nemora and shemira/ulmus

and equip items @twilit forum

[twilit forum]

equip items? everybody has maxed T1 gear (almost everybody)

[inland egret]

who r without things

[twilit forum]

everybody has things

[inland egret]

good

swap fawkes and estilda on nemora and shemira/ulmus try this now

belinda
-rowan
nemora
-lucius
fawks

depends on how long they survive

[twilit forum]

that did it, fawkes and belinda did die but others survived

hmmm was stuck at floor 320 purelly due to not having enough damage to get through the healing and shields, so just replacing nemora with saurus just carried me through it fast

[signal lintel]

Any suggestions?

[nova cosmos]

can anyone apart from Ezio break through Brutus' shield ability?

[latent wagon]

wrong chan, #classic-questions

[forest lantern]

How to beat that? Hardstuck 😫

[mortal flax]

you use a nara or athalia on mehira then it is easy

[forest lantern]

Anyone got a Nara to borrow? Lol

[topaz cobalt]

Pls help

[inland egret]

shemira
-lucius
rowan
-belinda
rosa
if vurk trows a poison at belinda try to put her on top

@topaz cobalt

[topaz cobalt]

Ok ty

[cloud fossil]

Kt 385

Is that thoran cheese?

Hmm

[inland egret]

@cloud fossil useless but u can try with blade on eironn,safiya + call on rowan , tasi

[cloud fossil]

Idk hiw to cheese

Do i take all gears off?

Oh ok

[sour burrow]

Help

[hardy oriole]

Any tips here? Much appreciated!

[forest skiff]

Help plz

[fleet thistle]

can someone help me im stuck on 16-40

[inland egret]

@hardy oriole 1.daimon ferael/thoran nara athalia ezio/odin/ezizh
2.eironn safiya rowan tasi saurus/nemora/lyca
3.gwyn artur lyca/belinda/cecill/ferael talene rosa

[hardy oriole]

Thanks my man, I'll give it a go now

[dusky mirage]

any winning lineups for this?

[inland egret]

@dusky mirage depends on luck

but u can try swap tasi on saurus +30

[dusky mirage]

alright

beat it with saurus with a surprisingly low amount of tries lol

[inland egret]

gj er_claudione

[dusky mirage]

aaaaaaand the stage after has tasi again lol

[random fiber]

not sure what to do here

[inland egret]

nemora
-rosa
brutus
-rowan
gwyn
@random fiber not sure but u can try

[random fiber]

yeah nothings working, ill just wait and mythic trick until I can pass 180 on crystal

ty for trying~

[devout idol]

Any tips for team 2 ?

[forest dirge]

@devout idol I did Tasi/Rowan front, Nara/Eironn/Saf back for r2

[devout idol]

@devout idol do you have merc available?
@pale kettle Y

I’m kinda tempted to use a card and get Skriath 3/9 ngl

[devout idol]

I think I’ll try a lil bit more to Daimon the second stage

And then I’ll merc a Thoran if it doesn’t work xD

[kindred stone]

Pls help

[forest dirge]

@devout idol or merc a Nara

[uncut stone]

I just started so can anyone make a good comp for me

[winter drum]

Any advices?

[ornate grove]

didnt have to flex that hard

[uncut stone]

Aaa idk what to do

Im outta here. Too noob compared to yall

[pale kettle]

Any advices?
@winter drum

Nara also works instead of athalia but I had to use her because of min Power cap

[uncut stone]

Will wait for whoever that is willing to help a newbie out. Ping me if u do

[pale kettle]

Will wait for whoever that is willing to help a newbie out. Ping me if u do
@uncut stone level wukong as high as possible. He will solo carry you for a while

[uncut stone]

Hmm he just kept getting one shotted

[pale kettle]

Well yeah, he is too low. Reset your heroes and level him up

[sour ledge]

Any way you can see a clear here? Mirael has to be on top to get rid of Vedan with lucky hits before he ults, but then there is Shemira...Still need 5 R+ Graveborn for my mythic Shemira

[uncut stone]

Is wukong better than zapharael

[pale kettle]

Zaphrael hasn't really been tested. Wukong is probably the best carry until lvl 100

[uncut stone]

Oh ok

Trying to get the exp needed badly right now for thats what im lacking

[pale kettle]

You can reset heroes in the rickety cart and get the xp back

[uncut stone]

So which do i reset? Just want to know exactly so my team wont be messed up

[pale kettle]

@sour ledge who is silvina jumping on?

[uncut stone]

Currently at chap 6-20

[sour ledge]

@pale kettle Rowan

[pale kettle]

@sour ledge you can try
Lucius
Rowan
Arden
Mirael
Rosa/lyca

So which do i reset? Just want to know exactly so my team wont be messed up
@uncut stone
Use
Safiya
Wukong
Eironn
Estrilda
Zaphrael

For now

Level wukong as high as possibleso that hes always 20-40 lvls above the others

[uncut stone]

Alright noted. Thanks

[untold ginkgo]

Help.

[inland egret]

@untold ginkgo thorn

[pale kettle]

That team should do it. It's a tasi middle back so not much to to there except spam retry

[untold ginkgo]

I’ve done tons of retry til just now. Ulmus kept healinv

[winter drum]

@pale kettle I don't understand how this worked. Without lyca enemy eiron pulls first and kills the bottom line.

[pale kettle]

Do you have call on eironn?

@untold ginkgo I think I used a daimon comp for that stage...do you have him?

[untold ginkgo]

Only at M with +10; blade on Eironn

[forest dirge]

@untold ginkgo I used same 5 heroes, just different order. rotate lyca to saf's place, saf to tasi's place, and put tasi frontline

still, enemy tasi stage means RNG

[pale kettle]

If you can get him +20 it would work. Otherwise maybe merc one

[winter drum]

@pale kettle I do. Still bottom line dies before my eiron ults

[inland egret]

@untold ginkgo just use thoran with lorsan/athalia/nara/keltur/rowan/eironn/ezizh

[pale kettle]

@winter drum do you also have call on tasi? She needs it to banish the enemy tasi

I used: tasi, eironn call
Rowan chalice
Saf eye

[untold ginkgo]

For thoran cheese, any certain things i need be sure to do?

[winter drum]

@pale kettle this is what mine looks like. Nara is probably worse than athalia but I just don't understand how your bottom line survives

[pale kettle]

@winter drum you put them in the wrong order!

Nara
Tasi
Eironn
Rowan
Saf

[inland egret]

@untold ginkgo dura call artifact thoran

[winter drum]

Wait it doesn't look like this in your screenshot. Or I don't know how to read that fight chart

[pale kettle]

From top to bottom it's position 123...

[inland egret]

if thoran doesnt have time to gain energy use rowan/lyca

[noble vault]

@forest dirge what did you do for 44?

[forest dirge]

eironn/saf r1 and merc +30 thoran r2, let me grab ss

eironn/farael, not saf, my b

[noble vault]

🙏

[gray geyser]

Looking for mauler 196. Fawkes really messing with my Saf

[noble vault]

whats that daimon setup with? screenshot gives a server error when I expand it

looks like M+ 20

[gray geyser]

Yeah with 30 Thoran

[noble vault]

👍

[blissful parcel]

Any help for 28-58?

[forest dirge]

@noble vault M+ daimon +20, merc'd +30 thoran with 3/9 furn

[gray geyser]

@blissful parcel

[inland egret]

or nara

[gray geyser]

Goal is to keep mehira busy

[blissful parcel]

I just tried and had perfect RNG I guess, haha

[gray geyser]

Nice one
Saves the need to merc an Ath for power req

@pale kettle do you have mauler 196?

[silver phoenix]

Whats are the best 3 teams i can make for legends challenger?

Current

[inland egret]

eironn+gwyn nothing more

[hallow kettle]

god i hate how stupid ferael keeps ruining me form being able to ult at all

zaph is the closest one to actually winning, but i still can't ult when ferael spooks shemira, and then when enemy shemira actually silences my shemira

[inland egret]

cuz ferael counter shem

[hallow kettle]

my victory condition is if rosa can proc immediatly right after shem uses skil

[gray geyser]

@pale kettle

Skregg with call interrupts Coffin!? Mind blown. Normally I run blade or eye on her for quick orbs

It's not 100% stopping the coffin for me but this might increase my chances, thanks

[glossy scaffold]

What can I do here? Thought I'd blast through once I picked up ezio and the free trials for all ascended heroes lol

[inland egret]

50 lvl cap @glossy scaffold ss ur all heroes

[glossy scaffold]

This is misty valley btw

[ionic wedge]

hello

can someone help me with my lineup for PVE

[topaz cobalt]

Can someone help

[ionic wedge]

this is my heroes

someone please help me make a good PvE team?

[loud sapphire]

Stuck on 30-32. This is the team that’s gotten me closest to winning. Input appreciated

[winter matrix]

you can try

tasi
lucius
mirael
estrilda/brutus
nemora@ionic wedge

[ionic wedge]

these are my heroes and i dont know alot about this game, please help me make PvE lineup

thanks 😄

[winter matrix]

you can switch around on Mirael/Saveas carry

but make one of them your carry

[hallow kettle]

huh wow, it seems that...silvina basically counters zaphrael?

[ionic wedge]

okay, thank you, i must first give mirael some meth

@winter matrix (crystal)

[inland egret]

(dust)

[ionic wedge]

lol

[inland egret]

@loud sapphire
safiya
-talene
eironn
-rowan
lyca

[loud sapphire]

Just tried it. No dice, talene doesn’t even have time to Rez lol

[inland egret]

lyca
-talene/tasi
rowan
-eironn
safiya
try this

[loud sapphire]

Yeah have tried a few safiya combos but she doesn’t seem to do the trick. Suppressing either numisu or enemy Safiya with ferael has gotten me further

Appreciate the help tho don’t get me wrong 🙂

[inland egret]

eironn without 3/9 furn

[topaz cobalt]

Pls help

[forest dirge]

@vapid ibex here's what I used on KT 429

[sharp bough]

plz help me pass rhis so hard shit im stuck here for days ooof

[inland egret]

@topaz cobalt
belinda
-brutus
rowan
-lucisu
rosa

---

[sharp bough]

@inland egret me?

[inland egret]

@sharp bough u need maxing 1 hero(better)

and mirael(fire mage) will be better than belinda

[sharp bough]

but bienda is my only legndary plua

and my nirael is so shir she die instant so shit dmg

[inland egret]

u can ascend mirael to leg+

in the end u can use it as a feed(for myth-myth+)

[topaz cobalt]

@inland egret didnt work :(

[sharp bough]

ok will try to make her
thank u

[inland egret]

@topaz cobalt u can only complete this stage only with luck i think

[topaz cobalt]

Mhh ok

[inland egret]

lyca+mirael very strong

or try this
rosa
-belinda
cecil
-rowan
lucius

@topaz cobalt or
rowan
-belinda
cecil
-rosa
lucius

[topaz cobalt]

It worket thank you

[pale thunder]

Best azmonath comp?

[stuck trellis]

@glossy scaffold https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/762903950244446239/Screenshot_20201004-215015_AFK_Arena.jpg

[slow onyx]

I did all the formations I could think of but no use

[pale kettle]

Everyone out here stuck on 23-34

[inland egret]

@pale thunder athalia,cecil,thane,oscar
and healers rowan,nemora,talene

[rotund hare]

Help with 22-50?

[inland egret]

@rotund hare
nemora
-shemira
lyca
-rowan
lucius

[gloomy shard]

If I pass it: 1 saurus and 2 cards and a x10 pulls and 10 golden emblems/week

[rotund hare]

@inland egret doesn’t work. Isn’t Rowan too fragile to be on front? His dodge isn’t high enough yet at E+

[gray geyser]

Rowan gets dodge from mythic gear, got any of that?

[inland egret]

if lucius lives then u can put him in front

i was just not sure that he would survive

[rotund hare]

I unequipped some that I had on Belinda and put it on Rowan. I’ll give it a try.

[inland egret]

ferael
-daimon
rowan
-talene
lyca/rosa/lucius
@eager kernel

[magic oracle]

I currently have the top 5 in my lineup

Do I need to change it or is it fine? Note: I still didn’t pick between zaphrael and lucretia

[noble vault]

@forest dirge youre the best

[forest dirge]

[eager kernel]

Thank you @inland egret

[grand perch]

Hello @magic oracle,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[violet igloo]

http://bit.ly/afkarena_quick_start_guide

[stuck trellis]

@gloomy shard

[gloomy shard]

Thx

[kindred stone]

Help

[wheat gulch]

Can anyone give me advice how to beat the stage

[small moth]

Ideas ?

[mortal flax]

nemora instead of fawkes and reset until nemora charms ferael and you win @small moth

[indigo stream]

Are these 5 the Heroes i should focus on concidering what I have?

Idk if someone like lucretia would be better than mirael or if running 2 dps instead of 2 supports is better, since I have a support tank

[glossy scaffold]

@inland egret didn't realize what ss meant for a while lol

[stuck trellis]

@glossy scaffold did my ss not work?

[glossy scaffold]

Oh @stuck trellis thanks I didn't get a notification of that

[round mason]

Help pls

[lucid stratus]

Oh, I see, thanks

[blissful tapir]

Who should I use

my main is the first 4 and wukong but i was thinking of swapping wukong for hendrik

[sharp maple]

i’d keep wukong for faction bonus since you have three wilders already

[rigid birch]

Shemira Carry:
Shemira
-------->Lucius
Rowan(try to get one)
-------->Hendrik
Ferael

Wukong Carry:
Tasi
-------->Wukong
Rowan(see how good he is?)
-------->Lucius
Ferael

[sharp maple]

i need to get a tier 5 down my belt to move to the next rank. anyone know how i can beat this level?

[rigid birch]

whats your highest class (celerity, sustenance, etc.)?
should have focused only on one, tanks are obsolete and mages are meh

[jaunty harbor]

Just need help with this set up. This is the only set up where I was able to kill both Thane and Athelia

[manic hinge]

guys a little help I beg of you
I've been stuck for a week

[final meteor]

@manic hinge

[glossy scaffold]

@stuck trellis my si's aren't too good for those heroes/talene isn't mythic yet so I can't do it with that team

[inland egret]

@glossy scaffold u need complete stage only with cel/hyp/dim?
lucretia
-talene
eironn
-nakoruru
ezio

[pale kettle]

Can somebody help me if I just say my heros

[inland egret]

yes

[pale kettle]

My knowledge of this game is not the greatest since I literally started yesterday

I’m on stage 5-32 and struggling

[inland egret]

@pale kettle max lvl only for 1 hero
mirael (fire mage) best hero for 100-160 lvl (max of this hero can be raised to leg+ then it will be used as feed)
dont need improve everything evenly
after lvl 160 u can use shemira(160-240)/daimon(160+ daimon better but hardder to get)

[pale kettle]

I don’t think I’ll be able to get even one hero above 100 let alone 160

I’m so green the grass is envious

[inland egret]

you will be able to go further if you improve only 1 hero to the maximum, and all the rest will improve when needed

mirael has ult to hit all over the area cuz she can solo

[stuck trellis]

@glossy scaffold just merc talene and keep retryring, shouldn't be too bad

[hallow kettle]

the last round of misty valley seems pretty tough? ferael literally ruins everything

tfw blueballed from the abiltiy to ult at all

[hallow kettle]

Should I give up the ghost and call for a guildie to help me out, but maybe I should wait 14 days before ponying up the gems

[stuck trellis]

@hallow kettle u have to interrupt oden somehow

nobody will cast because of him

[hallow kettle]

Ferael also very mean

Btw what's a good mauler, wilder, graveborn to merc so I can accomplish the defeat enemy with 4 of specific faction misty valley tasks. Already got shemira. My Safiya is oNly legendary+

[sly cobalt]

Help?

[stuck trellis]

@sly cobalt

[hollow hatch]

anyone have GB 180 w/ daimon?

[hollow hatch]

nvm

[wet meadow]

Need help it impossible

[uncut stone]

Just started a new account in a different server, on day one itself, I am using Tasi, Nemora, Lucius, Wu Kong and Lucretia as a team. Got belinda, thoran, skreg, gorvo, kelthur and thane but im not sure which to switch out to make a better comp for a team. Any advice? All heroes are currently at level 50ish

[vital kernel]

Hmm wish I had a good tasi lol she's almost M though

I'm more impressed you beat it at 290 though wow

[vital kernel]

@stuck trellis dunno how I won this but eironn and Rowan 2v5d this basically

I had to record it because eironn survived at least 2-3 times with less than 5% hp

[stuck trellis]

nice!

[untold ginkgo]

Still struggling af. Help. 😦

[stuck trellis]

im on the same stage
thres a 297 clear that swaps lyca and tasi and has a +30 3/3 safiya, so maybe we just merc a strong safiya at reset @untold ginkgo

[untold ginkgo]

Sweet mercy. Swapping lyca and tasi nailed it after second try. I kept rotating tons.

[stuck trellis]

ooooh nice

now i have to beat this stage

[tepid sequoia]

Can anyone help? Been stuck here for like a week and half

[topaz cobalt]

Pls help

[blissful tapir]

is safiya good early game

[torn valve]

@blissful tapir no, she need other heroes to work

[blissful tapir]

what are the other heroes?

[severe ocean]

what is the best team comp possible with those heroes, because im kinda stuck in every possible way

[wet meadow]

Can someone help me this is the 5th time I have put this in here

[grim lance]

Any help?

[cloud fossil]

29-54

[stuck trellis]

@cloud fossil

[sharp dove]

Is it possible?

[calm wren]

Any idea how to beat this with 4 maulers?

[torpid frost]

Ah ok, wasn't sure if it belonged here or in questions, will delete and ask there. Thanks :)

[neon plover]

Hi, i have maxed all mage and supports with relic lv5 now, any suggestions to break 150m?

[shadow meteor]

Any suggestions on the second team?

[restive tundra]

Any well thought team for this?

[faint lagoon]

Any team suggestions? I have no idea about what to do

[dusky mirage]

lineups for 29 24 with eironn comp?

[raw niche]

Has someone beat this one? If so, how?! Cursed stage with so much healing

[inland egret]

ferael

[raw niche]

Ferael gets DELETED with few ticks of flora's ability
If put bottom he gets grabbed by Nara and pretty much gets skilled on

Ulmus has heals
Flora heals others
Nara gets healed from flora
I can't execute Nara

[inland egret]

flora ?

i dont think she can kill

only thoran mb

@raw niche try thn
nara
-lucius
ferael
-lucretia
satrana

[amber badge]

Could someone help me with a lineup for last level of misty 😦 am big stuck

[inland egret]

@amber badge put rowan in center and thoran in bottom

[wind eagle]

Curious if I should still be using Ros even though she is low level

[inland egret]

6 heroes?

unlvl 1 hero pls

[amber badge]

@inland egret yeah my form gets deleted

[raw niche]

@inland egret satrana fucking obliterated them somehow when I put her top rofl

[inland egret]

top?

anyway gj

[wind eagle]

If the 6 hero's was to me, I leveled the extra for the pentagram even though I am actually using Ros in my lineup. Been a bit so figured I would see what you all thought my best lineup would be now

[topaz cobalt]

Any suggestions

[willow moon]

@amber badge as in you can't beat it at all, or can't complete a challenge?

[amber badge]

I can’t beat it at all from what I’ve tried @willow moon

[willow moon]

oof. it didn't give me any trouble. does any one of your friends have an eironn? tasi and rowan would be good here too...
oh you have a merc'd eironn. put him on top

[amber badge]

My mercs are showing in the screenshot

[willow moon]

yeah, i corrected myself.
could try eironn tasi brutus shem lucretia/zaph
you don't have the heroes to strategize so I think you just need to brute force it

[amber badge]

The others I’ve strategized and barely brute forced but this one is giving me a lot of trouble, I appreciate the help

[willow moon]

Tasi Rowan Eironn Shem Lucretia/Zaph, in that order
probably going to have to jam retry but i don't see why that wouldn't work
just watch the post battle statistics and see what went wrong

[amber badge]

@willow moon thank you so much, thats definitely the best form I’ve tried by far I’ll retry about 100 times but it’s not looking too good 😦

[willow moon]

best of luck

[calm wren]

Can't beat this with 4 maulers, any suggestions?

[lament olive]

I beat it with: 1. Numisu, 2: Khasos, 3: Brutus, 4: Rowan +30, 5: Saf +30. Everyone else just base SI.

I think my +30 Saf stun-locked the Ezizh.

[hollow palm]

@amber badge I sent you a pm

[brave wagon]

@calm wren don't use shem as your 5th. Try rowan or talene instead

[bleak rain]

Hi guys ! Do you think it’s doable ? What can I do to win this fight ?
Thanks for your time !

[calm wren]

@calm wren don't use shem as your 5th. Try rowan or talene instead
@brave wagon I've tried both without any luck

[willow moon]

@bleak rain try Rowan, Tasi, Shem, Lyca, Daimon... ideally you'd want to lock down Arden with Nara or Ath if possible... otherwise it'll be a lot of retries. could try that merc Eironn in slot 5 if possible, too

[ember bane]

Need lineup to defeat them plz ty

[worldly wharf]

Any suggestions?

[bleak rain]

@willow moon it works ! Thanks !

[willow moon]

@bleak rain dont mention it :)
@worldly wharf lmao hey, just saw your post in the guild. did robert's suggestion not work?

@ember bane not gonna happen, sorry mate

[versed briar]

Advice? (Just as a general team) Pls don’t comment on my empty box I just started.

[prime brook]

Can I pass this?

[willow moon]

Way too early to advise for a team @versed briar just use this wishlist guide please https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/hd64ig/visual_guide_to_the_wishlist/
except it's been a couple months so GB should be Fera, Nara, Thoran, Daimon, Izold

[white viper]

I just got him from gacha, how is he like and who can he replace?

[willow moon]

too early for you to really do anything with him right now but he's very good later on. also not sure what you mean by gacha, assuming you mean tavern
the game is a gacha, you don't get him from gacha

[white viper]

Tavern, yes.

Here's my current team if that helps

[willow moon]

yeah, you're way too early for it to really matter
fyi Shemira isn't really good til lvl161

[rotund hare]

Help with 22-57?

[bright arrow]

@rotund hare maybe Nemora will better, than epic Tasi

[cosmic dust]

https://i.imgur.com/1JbmlnU.png anything i can change or switch up for this fight?

[bright arrow]

@rotund hare If she charm spider, will fine, and let brutus tanking enemy brutus

@cosmic dust Brutus against Thane or Talene, and u can use Tasi - pretty good hero

[cosmic dust]

who should i replace Tasi with?

[bright arrow]

Talene

[rotund hare]

@bright arrow I was just trying different combinations that’s why I took Nemora out and put Tasi in. Thank you though

[bright arrow]

@rotund hare doesn't work?

[mild geyser]

Any help would be appreciated

[royal thorn]

Any changes u could make to progress?

[faint current]

Any advice?

[willow moon]

@mild geyser Swap Rowan and Bel for starters.
Saveas might also be a good pick in there, maybe for brutus? hard to say
@royal thorn personally I'd suggest pivoting from Shemira to a Saveas carry, while you stock up on more copies of the better heroes like Eironn, Rowan, Daimon, Luca, etc... Also wouldn't hurt to look at the wishlist guide because you have some questionable heroes in there. https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/hd64ig/visual_guide_to_the_wishlist/
it's a few months out of date - your Graveborn list should include Ferael, Nara, Thoran, Daimon, and Izold

[inland egret]

@royal thorn swap fawkes on lyca

and better pick belinda(lvlup her , unlvl shem)

[willow moon]

@faint current I used Brutus, Skreg, Saf, Eironn, Skriath. can't see all of your heroes there...

@inland egret he's doing the mauler challenge in Misty Valley lmao

[inland egret]

ohh

i cant pass without eironn

@faint current call on safiya and rowan 2pos

[willow moon]

^

[pale kettle]

Any advice on how my line up should be?

Wait how did you get both

Both of twhat

[inland egret]

luc and zap?

[pale kettle]

I pulled the dark girl and i got the light guy from the choosing thingy

Just started the game idk much

But you only get one

[willow moon]

@pale kettle swap hogan and monkii
@pale kettle it's way too early in the game for a lineup to matter too much. just use this wishlist guide for your tavern: https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/hd64ig/visual_guide_to_the_wishlist/
it's a few months out of date - your Graveborn list should include Ferael, Nara, Thoran, Daimon, and Izold

But you only get one
@pale kettle he summoned Lucretia and chose Zaphrael from the event

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle Yeah ik, i got one from the choose. Then i pulled one from Gacha

Huh

@willow moon Alright ty

[willow moon]

no problem :)

[pale kettle]

Like this?

[willow moon]

that's a start, you could also try swapping rosa for zaph while you still have him. you're not using a backline DPS but if you had one (like Saveas, Belinda) you would want Safiya back there as well

[pale kettle]

So who should i choose to be on my wish list? or does it not matter?

[willow moon]

So who should i choose to be on my wish list? or does it not matter?
@pale kettle exactly what the guide says to, it absolutely does matter lol

[pale kettle]

What’s a saveas and a belinda

[willow moon]

...heroes

[pale kettle]

I have safiya want me to max her?

The guide doenst say much tho or am i just stupid?

Hello which faction should i get the epic hero with?

[willow moon]

@pale kettle you should also follow the wishlist guide I sent fyi since you're early game as well. Saf is very good yes, build Saveas then once you get to around level161 and he started being bad you can fodder him to Safiya, she's the best mauler

@pale kettle it says a lot actually :) you're not stupid though haha. there are 5 slots in the wishlist. you can see where it says "heroes which are too good to not be on your wishlist" so for example your LB wishlist would be Rowan, Luci, and Rosa for 3 of the slots. then you can pick 2 more to make 5 from the Filler section, where it says "strong contenders for the empty slots above".

[pale kettle]

My wishlist is the one recommended so is belinda on there

[willow moon]

Simply put...
LB: Rowan, Luci, Rosa, Gwyn, Bel/Fawkes
Mauler: Brutus (for one copy), Saf, Skriath, Tidus, Skreg, Numisu (once you get your one brutus)
Wilder: Eironn, Tasi, Lyca, Nemora, Saurus
GB: Fera, Nara, Thoran, Daimon, Izold

[pale kettle]

I have these and not belinda

Simply put...
LB: Rowan, Luci, Rosa, Gwyn, Bel/Fawkes
Mauler: Brutus (for one copy), Saf, Skriath, Tidus, Skreg, Numisu (once you get your one brutus)
Wilder: Eironn, Tasi, Lyca, Nemora, Saurus
GB: Fera, Nara, Thoran, Daimon, Izold
@willow moon That makes it much easier lol

[willow moon]

@pale kettle in early game you want to build your saveas because he is a Legendary tier (you get blue copies of him) and thus you'll never really be short on copies, whereas ascended tiers (you pull them as elites, like Safiya, Belinda, etc) can be hard to come across with bad rng.
saveas and mirael are two great L tier carries that you can eventually fodder once they become too weak around lvl160+.
@pale kettle it's exactly what the graphic says (; but no worries haha

[pale kettle]

Vick, sorry to bother again. But what if i already have Rosa?

[inland egret]

shemira 160-240lvl , daimon 160+ lvl
mirael 100-160 lvl

[pale kettle]

So build up saveas and mireal to elite, and level up safiya and belinda?

[inland egret]

better lvl up mirael

[pale kettle]

So which of the heroes I have now should I reset a

[inland egret]

u can with wu kong 1-100 lvl

[faint current]

@willow moon

[pale kettle]

Anything i should change in my lineup?

[rare umbra]

How did you get talene?!?!

[willow moon]

@pale kettle don't apologize! you're good haha that's what we're here for. Ideally you need 8 Rosa copies to get her to ascended (not counting fodders) soooo.... do you really have that many? (;

[inland egret]

lucky pull

[rare umbra]

Dam

[pale kettle]

No clue tbh xD

[willow moon]

@faint current yeah I just grinded that lineup til I won, wasn't easy by any means

@pale kettle you're too early game for it to matter, just follow the wishlist guide I posted above

[faint current]

Fair enough. After I come back from the store I’ll pop that retry button a bunch

[inland egret]

@pale kettle collect mirael and put talene in crystal and thn u can use her

[willow moon]

also these days I advise against using Shem, just use Daimon in her place, he does everything she can better, and stays that way instead of falling off

[inland egret]

with eironn always 1-2 tries

[pale kettle]

Thank you

@pale kettle don't apologize! you're good haha that's what we're here for. Ideally you need 8 Rosa copies to get her to ascended (not counting fodders) soooo.... do you really have that many? (;
@willow moon Oh thats alot of them.

Izold is a tank right?

[willow moon]

yup! Rowan should be your first mythic lightbearer though, which needs 4 copies of him, and a total of 6 E+ fodder units, split as 2 E+ and 1 L+ (mirael, hogan, angelo, morvus)
yes Izold is a tank, though later in the game he becomes massive DPS while still being a tank lol

[inland egret]

izold imba

[charred halo]

help

[willow moon]

use nara to hook eironn lol, you don't want him dragging 3 of your units

and/or merc a jacked Daimon

[charred halo]

it worked lol

[inland egret]

@charred halo cant without ^ mercs

[willow moon]

@charred halo congrats, yeah you always want to lock down eironn on stages like that lol...

[pale kettle]

Oh Mythic? i thought this game only has up to Elite and maybe legend

[willow moon]

oh, what? no, hang on... lmao this game would get incredibly stale if it only went to elite

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559301922595667992/574155748721033216/Hero-Ascension-List.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/565837915343552512/QQ20190402003846.jpg

Athalia and any other Celestial and Hypogean ascend like that second pic

[pale kettle]

Thats alot of ascentions

[willow moon]

Yup! You're brand new to the game lol, welcome to the grind

[pale kettle]

Good thing tho, theres currently no MMO for me currently. This should be fun for atleast 1-2 weeks

[willow moon]

it should be fun for likely several years. I don't think I've never not had fun in over a year of playing lol (since it came out)

[pale kettle]

Really! You've been playing for that long?!

[willow moon]

since about June of last year yes

this game is very far from shallow

[pale kettle]

and i thought playing a game for 7 months was alot

[willow moon]

there's never been a reason to stop. there's always more content and progression to be had

[pale kettle]

Its pretty fun for newcomers too since alot of us that like getting gems and good stuff off the start and theres redemtion codes that gives us gems and more

[willow moon]

yeah, I just started a baby/secondary/alt account about a month ago and it's very interesting playing through the game again from the start with all the new stuff added in since I last was that early on

[pale kettle]

It surely is.

[glossy scaffold]

Thanks! Forgot I could merc lol

[mortal dew]

Been hard stuck for a week any advice

[willow moon]

@mortal dew you're not using a carry, your levels are a bit more dispersed, so that could be one problem... my best guess in that scenario would be Rowan/Luci Brutus Belinda Rosa Nemora in that order.. something along those lines.... tricky with those heroes

[mortal dew]

well my carry suppost to be brutus but i aint got 25k esscence

[willow moon]

brutus isn't a carry lol

[pale kettle]

What should I change to safiya

[sweet estuary]

@sweet estuary ask you anything about towers? because in that case...
@willow moon feel free to ask mate

[pale kettle]

They’re all lvl 60 by now

[willow moon]

ooops last one was a bad SS

@sweet estuary what do? I see successful lineups where eironn sweeps but mine doesn't even survive long enough to ult, even with call. is it just a star thing? he has maxed gear
would any of the other wilders be of use here?

[sweet estuary]

@sweet estuary what do? I see successful lineups where eironn sweeps but mine doesn’t even survive long enough to ult, even with call. is it just a star thing? he has maxed gear
would any of the other wilders be of use here?
@willow moon gimme 1 min to check my lineup with artifacts

[willow moon]

@pale kettle Numisu isn't that great quite yet, or at least, Saf is much better

[pale kettle]

So I should reset numisu?

[willow moon]

not necessary if you put Saf on crystal

[sweet estuary]

@willow moon ok. Heroes and positioning are correct. Your level is enough to pass. You can try giving call also to eiron?

[pale kettle]

I keep getting demolished bruh

[willow moon]

@sweet estuary yeah, currently I have Saurus Blade, Tasi Call, Lyca Grace, Eironn Call, Lorsan Chalice

[pale kettle]

Help

What do I do next because I can’t win

[sweet estuary]

@sweet estuary yeah, currently I have Saurus Blade, Tasi Call, Lyca Grace, Eironn Call, Lorsan Chalice
@willow moon you could try also: Saurus and eiron EYE. Lorsan and Lyca CONVICTION. other than that it’s RNG. You will pass it don’t worry. Probably just more tries

[willow moon]

@pale kettle retry a lot or get some more levels lol
@sweet estuary possible I just have absolute trash rng, it's been a few hundred tries already haha
i'll try those artifacts tho

I don't think Lyca convic will make a difference because she can't survive Ath dive anyway but I'll try? i figured the extra dodge points would be better in case clutch rng

[sweet estuary]

@willow moon ouch! You need to work also on Lyca 3/9 but that’s not why you are not passing it. Must be horrible rng

[keen wave]

is there a google sheets with updated AE comps ?

[willow moon]

I'm at 2/9 for lyca 😭 bad rng there too

[sweet estuary]

I don’t think Lyca convic will make a difference because she can’t survive Ath dive anyway but I’ll try? i figured the extra dodge points would be better in case clutch rng
@willow moon you are right. Grace is more consistent. But good rng with conviction can possibly give you that extra push to close it

[willow moon]

also saurus seems to live longest on average so I figured blade would be optimal but I'll give eye a shot as well.. i'm desperate haha

[sweet estuary]

also saurus seems to live longest on average so I figured blade would be optimal but I’ll give eye a shot as well.. i’m desperate haha
@willow moon all the suggestions I gave you where successful at level <320. So worth a try! But you are doing everything right so it’s rng.

[willow moon]

i was most afraid of that answer tbh XD was hoping you'd have a magical formation that would beat it in ~50 hahaha

[sweet estuary]

@willow moon I know right?😄 wilder tower is like that though... very rng reliant in the bottleneck floors

[willow moon]

listen wilder tower is my favorite... floor 280? my maulers are at 234 right now and they're pretty highly ascended too :')

[pale kettle]

I got Daimon are they good

[willow moon]

yes lol

[pale kettle]

Should I switch one of my current heroes with them?

[willow moon]

probably? he's pretty good even at low ascensions, he only gets better and better.
you don't really have one set in stone team, you change it around depending on the enemy formation

[pale kettle]

Uh

Could you help me with deciding my formation because this boss is really wrecking me

[willow moon]

i recommended the formation you're using, again I think you might just need some more levels on this one. you could try swapping the Zaph for Daimon but I don't know how much of a difference that would make. maybe put wu kong in your backline if he dies before he can ult? idk man
that early game just needs patience sometimes

[pale kettle]

Alright

[wet meadow]

Can u help me

[pale kettle]

@willow moon which one?

[willow moon]

@wet meadow Rowan Talene Luci Eironn Shem. Also start working on building Saf if you haven't already. Warek and Brutus should not be mythic. also in general don't ascend to L if you don't have the copies to go L+

@pale kettle wilders for early game imo, Tasi Lyca Eironn Saurus and Nemora would all be fantastic. good luck!

[wet meadow]

Ye I have been told about that

[pale kettle]

I almost did it wt

[wet meadow]

@willow moon it did nothing

[willow moon]

okay well I can't see the battle statistics. what's going wrong? who's messing you up?

[wet meadow]

The front two just destroy everyone

[inland egret]

@wet meadow
lucius
-talene
rowan
-shemira
fawkes

[willow moon]

I almost did it wt
@pale kettle basic rule of thumb, if you almost did it, you can do it by mashing retry. just need a liiiittle bit better rng, and you'll effectively never get the BEST rng

wait prophet what order did you put them in? if you formatted like =P said then yeah you'd get rekt. generally we write the order as literally slots 1 2 3 4 5

sooo...
Luci
Rowan
Eironn
Talene
Shem
also I highly doubt Grez destroyed your team

[inland egret]

eironn on <240 lvl

funny

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle wilders for early game imo, Tasi Lyca Eironn Saurus and Nemora would all be fantastic. good luck!
@willow moon Alright thanks

[willow moon]

@inland egret still works, especially if that Vedan is shredding him
@pale kettle anytime!

[pale kettle]

Wait how do i leave a guild?

[inland egret]

@wet meadow vicksin team works?

[wet meadow]

Very very well I have nearly finished the chapter

[willow moon]

:)

[inland egret]

ss game score

@wet meadow lose or win score

[willow moon]

@pale kettle Ranhorn > guild > manage > leave guild

[wet meadow]

??

[inland egret]

screenshot fight score

[willow moon]

@sweet estuary you're amazing lolllll 50 tries just like I said

tasi call, lyca convic, saurus eye, eironn eye, lorsan convic

[wet meadow]

Nvm

[inland egret]

Why do you have such a formation right now?

[willow moon]

ez w @sweet estuary haha
I guess convic lyca really did make a difference?? weird

[sweet estuary]

EZ

[willow moon]

@inland egret wdym??

[inland egret]

i think he didn't even use your eironn formation

[willow moon]

not sure lol

[inland egret]

since he has preserved my past formation

[sweet estuary]

ez w @sweet estuary haha
I guess convic lyca really did make a difference?? weird
@willow moon well basically it’s a bazooka with Lyca but must then rely on her natural dodge to survive

[willow moon]

that's fair, but athalia was on top of her, so I didn't think the ability would kick in 👀

[inland egret]

I would see how you would go with eironn <240 lvl

[willow moon]

my baby account is doing great

[inland egret]

lvl cap?

or does this team not know this?

[willow moon]

underleveld eironn saf lol
@wet meadow what lineup are you using through campaign right now?

[wet meadow]

The one u gave me

lucius
-talene
rowan
-shemira
fawkes

[inland egret]

xd

[wet meadow]

But I'm stuck on one

[inland egret]

vicksin don't help if you don't know how heroes work

[wet meadow]

Nira just heals

[inland egret]

all heroes ss

[wet meadow]

What

Oh ok

[inland egret]

lucius
-talene
fawkes
-shem
rowan
or
shemira
-talene
rowan
-lucius
fawkes

but im not sure because there is ferael

[willow moon]

lmao sorry =P where are you in campaign?

[rotund hare]

Care to help me out @inland egret ?

[willow moon]

don't come in here with hostility. an Eironn team would work fine even at that level, the main point was to succ the Vedan so he didn't tear his weaker frontline to pieces.

[inland egret]

@willow moon farm twisted realm/ myth gears

I see no reason to rush

[willow moon]

note the 31-1 in my name. I know how heroes work just fine. again, don't come in here with hostility.

[wet meadow]

Na it doesn't work nira just out heals Shem aswell

[inland egret]

but u use eironn on <240 lvl

[willow moon]

there's no reason to rush but you're missing out on Misty Valley, Field of Stars, afk rewards, etc. you're kind of just slowing your own progress. with the additional TR floors there's no reason to stall.
and again, eironn works just fine pre 240. not AS good but it's better than building a useless Shemira.

[inland egret]

@rotund hare
rowan
-shemira
brutus/talene
-lucius
nemora
best way i think

cuz u cant farm twisted realm

[wet meadow]

@inland egret even with this much damage his Heath didn't go down

[inland egret]

@willow moon
and I can enjoy and get more than you

@wet meadow one problem - ferael
its rly hard stage

[willow moon]

that isn't a coherent thought. regardless, the channel is for lineup help. try and avoid petty arguments.

[wet meadow]

He dies strait away he is not the problem

[inland egret]

@willow moon #classic-questions or #classic-chat pls leave this channel

[willow moon]

you claimed I didn't know how heroes work. I retorted.
no need to move channels, end of conversation.

[inland egret]

He dies strait away he is not the problem
@wet meadow he steal stamina

@willow moon
do not write me anymore user eironn <240 lvl

[wet meadow]

Got any ideas

[willow moon]

and you do not tell me to leave the channel, I've been assisting people in here periodically throughout the last few hours. if you have a problem with me you can take it to DMs. again, this is not the place for pettiness and arguments, this is strictly for helping players. please move on from this topic.

[inland egret]

fawkes hiding belinda or ferael?

[wet meadow]

Belinda

[inland egret]

can he survive first 10-20 seconds?

[wet meadow]

Idk I'll check

[pale kettle]

Seems like im stuck. Any tips?

[inland egret]

@pale kettle maxing only 1 hero

better who hits the area

[pale kettle]

and that would be Zap right?

[wet meadow]

@inland egret i did it I was Screen recording it and I did it

[inland egret]

@pale kettle u can try hes a new hero and im not sure if he can

[pale kettle]

His ult does alot of dmg and its AOE

[half crypt]

Hey guys 🙂 new player here! Was hoping you guys could help me a bit. This double lion guy thing is just melting my face for days now. I've tried resetting and leveling a bunch of combinations but just can't get past this. Could anyone help me with ideas for this specific setup? Any general notes about a general lineup moving forward would really be appreciated too. Having a tough time deciding what's best with the insane amount of lineup options I am starting to get at this stage in the game 🙂

[grand perch]

Hello @half crypt,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[pale kettle]

Plus i have Rosa so that would be double ult?

[inland egret]

@wet meadow try many tries with team that can best moments

@pale kettle yes (if she survives)

[wet meadow]

This is very tricky

[inland egret]

cuz boss stage

[wet meadow]

Yep last stage

[inland egret]

@wet meadow try with rosa

[wet meadow]

Ok I think she will insta die

For who

[inland egret]

fawkes or lucius(but bad idea with lucius)

if shemira has time to ult 2 times, then you should win (if the tree cannot use the ult and survive)

[wet meadow]

YEEESSSSSS

[inland egret]

passed?

[wet meadow]

I got Lucius ascended of the scrolls

[inland egret]

@wet meadow gj

[pale kettle]

Is Ferael any good

[willow moon]

very, though this likely goes in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

Oh alright

[willow moon]

no worries, just trying to keep things organized :) but yes fera is a very good hero to build throughout the game

[pale kettle]

So this question goes in Lineup help i think. My lineup is currently Rosa, Zap, Lucretia, Gorvo. and Izold. Who should i swap out for Ferael?

[inland egret]

ferael 240+ lvl only(yes)

[pale kettle]

Seriously?(yikes)

[willow moon]

the (only) is highly debatable, but he starts to shine as a great hero at 240+ yes

[pale kettle]

Well, im stuck rn so theres not much i can do

[willow moon]

with how early you are he would still be fine, that early in the game you can kind of get away with just plugging anyone into campaign and it works really

early game is just like that sometimes, you'll get walled and need to just get more levels, you can't always progress

[inland egret]

@pale kettle u need 1 dmg dealer and 4 supports/tanks

[pale kettle]

I got 1 supp 2 tanks 2 dps

[inland egret]

better use 1 dps and maxing him

[pale kettle]

If i have to max him there would only be 4 on the field

[willow moon]

worth noting that Zaph and Lucretia won't be sustainable as carries since they're going to be next to impossible to get more copies of

[pale kettle]

Yikess

[inland egret]

vicksin was right for the first time (gj)

[willow moon]

alright.

[pale kettle]

So do you think i should revoke all of them except for one ?

[willow moon]

what do you mean exactly by revoke?

what do you mean by revoke?

[pale kettle]

Reset*

Its just another word for reset

[willow moon]

I don't think you need to reset anyone no

[pale kettle]

Oh alright

No fkn way, removing and resetting Gorvo was the right move. I leveled up Ferael instead

and now ofc. im stuck again

[willow moon]

Gorvo isn't the best as a tank quite yet, yeah. Fera offers pretty decent CC and dps even at an early level, but you should try and focus on a L tier hero that early in the game, primarily Saveas or Mirael

[pale kettle]

what is L tier?

low tier?

[willow moon]

haha Legendary tier, refer to the list of heroes. they're the fodders, like mirael hogan angelo etc

[night compass]

This formation seems to work pretty well, but is there any way to improve it?

[pale kettle]

I dont even know the names ur talking about xD

[willow moon]

use portraits for all the hero info :)

[pale kettle]

Uh alright

Suggestions for a friend?

[inland egret]

@night compass swap fawkes on talene
swap nemora on rowan
it is enough to have 2 teams to win

[faint current]

Been stuck here a while any advice?

[solid sandal]

What general team should I be using around late 23-30

[night compass]

@night compass swap fawkes on talene
swap nemora on rowan
it is enough to have 2 teams to win
@inland egret
Like so?

[inland egret]

and gwyn 5 pos

[night compass]

Center stage Ferael?

[inland egret]

1team :
rosa
-talene
ferael
-artur
gwyn
2team:
lyca
-tasi
eironn
-rowan
safiya

[night compass]

Got it--thanks a bunch!

[inland egret]

@night compass
3team:
thoran
-ezio
nara
-nakoruru
skriath/daimon/athalia

[wintry bane]

Should make one hero 174 and the others 140?

[inland egret]

better 180

[night compass]

@night compass
3team:
thoran
-ezio
nara
-nakoruru
skriath/daimon/athalia
@inland egret

Late reply, sorry, but thank you! I'll give it a try

[jaunty harbor]

Hey guys I just need help with this, this is currently the only formation that I can think of that even gets Athelia or Thane killed but then nuked by the others ult

[wintry bane]

Should I make shemira 180 and keep the rest heroes 140

[inland egret]

@jaunty harbor
lyca
-nemora/talene(if u have)
safiya(if u have)/rosa
-rowan
eironn
or
lyca
-nemora/talene(if u have)
eironn
-rowan
safiya(if u have)/rosa
(2 lineup formation better i think )

and check equip on eironn

@wintry bane yes u need do it cuz shemira can solo pass stages

[half crypt]

I know I'm still really early on compared to most people asking for help in here but I've been stuck at this stage for like a day and a half and have tried resetting and releveling heroes and just about everything. I'm not very good at understanding how to create an effective lineup tho so I was hoping maybe someone would be kind enough to point me in the right direction 🙏 ❤️

[jaunty harbor]

So @inland egret
Backline
Lyca
Rosa
Eirron

Frontline
Nemora
Rowan

[inland egret]

yes or baclline
lyca
eironn
rosa
try first and 2nd

@half crypt wish list change better (u can find good wish list here #545929173471068170 )
here u cant make up a team, just to improve and try to pass

or try to collect lucius rowan nemora lyca rosa (good supp for shem)

[half crypt]

I'm kind of stuck on how to get diamonds to be able to unlock new heroes if I can't get past this stage though. I have a good wishlist from the guide channel, I just haven't had such good luck I think? Except for being able to legend+ Shemira what feels like quite quickly

[inland egret]

@half crypt better use mirael on 1-160 lvl shemira on 160-240 lvl
in time you will get them anyway

[wintry bane]

@half crypt try
Eironn
Hogan
Safiya
Wukong or ogi
Shemira

Try this and hopefully it will work!

[half crypt]

Will do, tyvm!!

[wintry bane]

Did it work?

[summer wagon]

anyone got some tips for this one?

i'll retry on that some time thanks

[half crypt]

@wintry bane nope. Silvinia gets to Safiya before she can initiate the prism barrier thing. She didn't get it up once in any of the 5 positions I just tossed her around into to test.

[wintry bane]

Try saurus instead of safiya

[half crypt]

@wintry bane Whoa. Went from getting face melted to finishing with 4 ppl alive. Had wukong in instead of bc was trying the variations you mentioned. Saurus comp still got melted until I swapped wu back for ogi. Was transferring best gear to the team in play each time and everything but that combo was magic and melted em. Now to acquire enough knowledge about the game to try and understand how you knew that would work like that lol. Thank you 🙌🙌🙌

[lethal python]

help

and this

[wintry bane]

@wintry bane Whoa. Went from getting face melted to finishing with 4 ppl alive. Had wukong in instead of bc was trying the variations you mentioned. Saurus comp still got melted until I swapped wu back for ogi. Was transferring best gear to the team in play each time and everything but that combo was magic and melted em. Now to acquire enough knowledge about the game to try and understand how you knew that would work like that lol. Thank you 🙌🙌🙌
@half crypt ur welcome bro I'm not very good at the game so my team comps are not perfect!

[ivory glade]

What relic on ezhiz here to ask as a merc?

[rotund hare]

Need help with 22-60. Trying to finish this chapter so that I can get the scrolls to use before it switches off of Graveborn. Really want to level up Ferael

[stuck trellis]

@rotund hare if you just want fera thats a personal choice, but I would reccomend scrolling wilders now in order to build the eironn tasi lyca rowan fera/saf comp

[rotund hare]

@stuck trellis fair enough. I just need scrolls. Lol any suggestions on the stage?

My roster is pretty lean I feel like

[stuck trellis]

sorry i got nothing :/

[bold bolt]

I'm only level 88 so I don't have many heros

[rotund hare]

No worries!

[bold bolt]

Tasi just cc my carry and lucuis full heals them and then cc death

Do u need a ss of all my heros?

[willow moon]

I wouldn't run Shem directly across from Thane just because of his initial burst could delay her I reckon

[ripe skiff]

help please (11-32)

[willow moon]

kinda need to see 11-32 to know how to help you

[willow moon]

first of all stop making so many legendary heroes when you can't make them L+

second, try Brutus, Lyca, Arden, Belinda/Tasi/Luci, Saveas. adjust that middle slot to whatever you need more of. sustain, CC, DPS, determines what hero you need there

[ripe skiff]

brutus and lyca front line right?

[willow moon]

right, i ordered them 1-5 to correspond with the slots

[ripe skiff]

alright

[willow moon]

brutus to tank the saveas spears with his shield, lyca because you don't really have any other good fl units here and she does her job in offering the haste boost

[ripe skiff]

sadly still not working

[willow moon]

battle statistics? it's important to see what went wrong and adjust based on the report

[ripe skiff]

alright hold on

[willow moon]

so estrilda is the problem. you could try and swap in Grez for Lyca but you're missing out on the haste that way, and grez at this point (and at most points) isn't that useful, you just don't really have any FL tanks at all. also since she's the problem, you can just keep retrying and pray to rng that Arden wraps her up

[ripe skiff]

alr ty.

[willow moon]

also yeah please use the wishlist guide and stop making L units, it'll help a lot :)

[ripe skiff]

whats the whishlist guide

[willow moon]

could just look it up but

this is my personal fav, shoutouts to Phoenix

[ripe skiff]

alright ty

[inland egret]

@ripe skiff
fawkes/tasi
-brutus
saveas
-lucius
lyca

better unlvl belinda - lvlup lucius/fawkes/lyca to 140

[ripe skiff]

how do u unlvl

[inland egret]

@ripe skiff

[ripe skiff]

o ty

[inland egret]

@ripe skiff and you have reached the point where you need to choose who will go through the stages next
my recommendations: shemira 160-240 lvl , daimon(if u have 4 copies u can use him ) 160+ lvl

[ripe skiff]

don't have either sadly

[inland egret]

shemira is easy to get, but it will only be good up to level 240 further it will have problems
daimon will always be good even at the very beginning
late game 240lvl+ eironn team , gwyn team , thoran cheese , god comp and etc

[ripe skiff]

i might have accidently deleted my thoran, we dont talk about that

shemira is easy to get, but it will only be good up to level 240 further it will have problems
daimon will always be good even at the very beginning
late game 240lvl+ eironn team , gwyn team , thoran cheese , god comp and etc
@inland egret how do u get shemira?

[inland egret]

i also used copies of thoran

[ripe skiff]

honestly havent touched the game since 2019

[inland egret]

lab store , peaks of time #7 , chapter 16-1

[ripe skiff]

damn, just beat this damn stage
and thank you

[clever jackal]

I need help with 5-36

I just can't beat it with what I've got

[bitter rose]

You should try to level characters a little more evenly.

[clever jackal]

I just got told i should do the opposite

[willow moon]

you should do the opposite

[bitter rose]

You want 5 characters evenly though.

[clever jackal]

No you don't

[bitter rose]

And a carry like 20-40 levels higher.

[willow moon]

not evenly, but you definitely don't want your resonating crystal at 0

rule of thumb you want 4 heroes even and a carry 20-40 higher, yeah. not 5 even.

[clever jackal]

Welp imma reset my heroes again

[bitter rose]

You could just level two more.

[willow moon]

^

[bitter rose]

Personally, I've only reset when one of the characters I was using had reached their limit and was holding my resounding crystal progress back.

[willow moon]

no need to reset, just use all your exp getting your 4 non carry heroes to 61.
that said Lucretia won't be sustainable as a carry since you'll likely only get one copy

[tawdry fjord]

Jello everyone so i did make a new acc on another server was gonna ask for lineup help

Pics up there :0

[clever jackal]

If i didn't reset i didn't have any xp left

[inland egret]

@tawdry fjord u can use wu kong 1-100 lvl , collect mirael to E+ - L+ and use her for 100-160 lvl with rowan/estrilda

[clever jackal]

Who should i make the carry of my team

[tawdry fjord]

Aight thanks @inland egret

[tawny heath]

What would be the Gwyn / Skriath comp without Zolrath?

[inland egret]

@clever jackal
have not tried have not seen but u can try use zaph or luc as dmg dealers
then collect mirael

[clever jackal]

no need to reset, just use all your exp getting your 4 non carry heroes to 61.
that said Lucretia won't be sustainable as a carry since you'll likely only get one copy

@willow moon who should i make my carry

[bitter rose]

Mirael for now.

[willow moon]

yeah Mirael or Saveas

[bitter rose]

Eventually, you'll get more heroes at ascension and switch.

Don't be like me and in a position where one of your ascended characters can't move on.

[clever jackal]

Who is mirael

[willow moon]

saveas is a really solid pick because you can fodder him into Safiya when the time comes. Mirael too, to fodder to Rowan, though ideally you want a carry highly ascended
Mirael is LB witch girl

[clever jackal]

She is blue tho

[bitter rose]

The blue hat witch.

[willow moon]

that's the point

[clever jackal]

So just use her

[willow moon]

yes lol

[bitter rose]

For now.

[inland egret]

@tawny heath almost nothing?

[bitter rose]

She's not going to be permanent but she'll be easier to upgrade while you get other units.

[bitter rose]

Also, I'd look at your wishlist and look at the units you want.

[tawny heath]

Hm?

[tawdry fjord]

Woah woah who's that guy 4th row

[willow moon]

@clever jackal

[inland egret]

@tawny heath
it should just reduce the damage

[tawny heath]

I don’t quite get how that answers my question...? Sorry

[inland egret]

but zolrath with furn very strong

@tawny heath
will not work just because this team cannot quickly kill the enemy

[tawny heath]

I was asking what the comp (5 heroes) for Gwyn/Skriath would be without Zolrath

[inland egret]

nakoruru

gwyn skirath nakoruru lyca lorsan default meta gwyn comp for pvp

[tawny heath]

Thanks

[inland egret]

but u can use with skriath

[tawny heath]

I’m almost there with Skriath

[clever jackal]

What team should i make out of this

[uncut stone]

Just started a new account in a different server, on day one itself, I am using Tasi, Nemora, Lucius, Wu Kong and Lucretia as a team. Got belinda, thoran, skreg, gorvo, kelthur and thane but im not sure which to switch out to make a better comp for a team. Any advice? All heroes are currently at level 50ish. Ping me if u do or u can just ignore

[clever jackal]

Because like this im just dying to Brutus

[uncut stone]

how did u get gold so fast

[clever jackal]

Codes

[uncut stone]

and luck too.........

[clever jackal]

What should i do

[inland egret]

lucretia
-mirael
tasi
-zaph
lorsan
@clever jackal

[bitter rose]

Will izold not work?

[inland egret]

izold imba when he reach 240+ lvl +20 si and 3/9 furn

[bitter rose]

A friend who's a lot further than me told me he was good at most levels in the game but I guess not.

[clever jackal]

lucretia
-mirael
tasi
-zaph
lorsan
@clever jackal
@inland egret what levels should i make them

[hollow dragon]

Need help on final level of chapter

[inland egret]

dont need lvl up

@clever jackal u need only 5 heroes and other in crystal

[willow moon]

@hollow dragon have Nara hook arden and either Lyca or Rowan tank Ath

[inland egret]

@hollow dragon (nice nickname)
lyca
-shemira
brutus
-rowan
nara
try this

[hollow dragon]

Ty I’ll run that 50 times see if it works

[clever jackal]

lucretia
-mirael
tasi
-zaph
lorsan
@clever jackal
@inland egret honestly i don't even know who those are

[inland egret]

@clever jackal
don't worry over time they will open quickly

[clever jackal]

But what should i do now

[inland egret]

@clever jackal
Lucretia(hypo faction girl)
mirael(fire mage)
tasi(buttefly)
zaphrael(zeus)
lorsan(guy with white hair)

[uncut stone]

Do i need to do any changes

[willow moon]

honestly i don't even know who those are
@clever jackal heroes > portraits

[clever jackal]

I can't level up zaphrael

[inland egret]

@uncut stone no , just lvl up wu kong to 100 lvl and then u can use mirael to 160 lvl

[clever jackal]

It's a trial hero or something

[inland egret]

@clever jackal dont need
u have mirael - tasi izold luc and grezh ( 5 heroes need to activate crystal )
u can unlvl girl from maulers
u need lvl up only 5 this heroes

[uncut stone]

@uncut stone no , just lvl up wu kong to 100 lvl and then u can use mirael to 160 lvl
@inland egret switch mirael with who in my team comp?

[inland egret]

@uncut stone
mirael team:
nemora
-lucius
mirael
-wu kong
tasi
best for ur heroes

[uncut stone]

hm alright. thanks

[vernal totem]

is zhaprael a carry

he is really really good

[inland egret]

but you can't make it more than 100 lvl

[vernal totem]

?

[willow moon]

you likely won't pull more copies of him and get level capped since he's stuck at E

[vernal totem]

i dont understand stuff.... nothing in this game

[willow moon]

E heroes are level capped at 100. E+ 120, L 140, L+ 160x etc...
just look up beginners guides mate

[vernal totem]

this is my build

i dont understand stuff from bigginers guide

[clever jackal]

@clever jackal dont need
u have mirael - tasi izold luc and grezh ( 5 heroes need to activate crystal )
u can unlvl girl from maulers
u need lvl up only 5 this heroes
@inland egret wot

[inland egret]

no need to upgrd 6 heroes

[clever jackal]

So just reset everything

[willow moon]

what don't you understand @vernal totem
we're here to help but you gotta clarify your points of confusion

[clever jackal]

Because im out of xp

[vernal totem]

the heroes, what heroes to get

[inland egret]

@clever jackal u need only 5 heroes

looks like:
you cannot upgrade a hero to 180 if you don't have the other 4 heroes of level 140

[vernal totem]

should i reset ?

[clever jackal]

@inland egret who should i level up as well?

[vernal totem]

i thought my build was gopd but appreantly its ass

[inland egret]

@clever jackal
raise the level of those who have better quality (izold, sniper)

[clever jackal]

Izold

[inland egret]

he E+

he can reach 120 lvl and ur crystal will be more

[vernal totem]

how the hell i get good shit,i understand nothing ugh, do i reset or not

[inland egret]

@vernal totem #545929173471068170 check here tier list heroes

@vernal totem with time you will understand what each hero does and who is better to improve and who is not worth it (but better check guide)

[clever jackal]

This isn't working

This is worse than what i used

At least for this level

[vernal totem]

i only have tasi thoran and the old guy who is support

from the guide i got

[inland egret]

@clever jackal
you raise the level of some heroes so as not to use them but to increase the level of the crystal

[clever jackal]

Yeah but how does that help me now

[vernal totem]

and i have mirael

[inland egret]

@clever jackal for such cases, a crystal was made so that you can use other heroes that will have the same level as your 5 heroes

[coarse shard]

Well, the lowest level of those 5, anyway

[inland egret]

@clever jackal
mirael,tasi,lorsan,zaph,luc (use this)

[clever jackal]

They are all level 52

[inland egret]

put in crystal if someone 1 lvl

[clever jackal]

Except for mirael

She is level 80

[coarse shard]

Sometimes with teams, it's literally just a matter of swapping a pair of heroes into each other's spots.

[inland egret]

it needs to be made Legendary +

[coarse shard]

Like you might have a good composition, but you're still losing. Switching around the heroes can sometimes work.

[clever jackal]

Brutus alone is already sweeping through this team

[coarse shard]

For example, Mirael's Ult might hit more enemies if she's put in the middle of the backrow. But sometimes you need to move her to the side so someone else can go in the middle and counter a hero in the backline's middle spot. Like say Nara - you're gonna wanna put a strong DPS who can take down Nara quickly in the middle spot, instead of Mirael.

[vernal totem]

ugh i can't understand,the guide i got has a wishlist that isnt updated

why i suck at all games, i dont understand the fucking guide

[mild geyser]

Any help would be appreciated

[coarse shard]

As for that team... Brutus I'll admit IDK how to counter very well, but maybe Fawkes might be good? His 3rd ability locks the enemy with the highest attack rating in a coffin for a bit, which I think in this case would be Brutus? Then again I have absolutely no idea who you have available to you.

Oh, that was for @clever jackal

[valid comet]

how do i start learning how to position heroes? ive realized that is my biggest issue. Is there any good guides explaining at least some basics that I might not know for positioning?

[old ore]

4 CeleDimPogs battle condition, please. Thank you

[clever jackal]

As for that team... Brutus I'll admit IDK how to counter very well, but maybe Fawkes might be good? His 3rd ability locks the enemy with the highest attack rating in a coffin for a bit, which I think in this case would be Brutus? Then again I have absolutely no idea who you have available to you.
@coarse shard i don't have him

[coarse shard]

@valid comet I've actually found out a lot just from watching guides on YT for the Arena Trials. Nara is easily countered by a good DPS opposite her, which Nara will literally drag back to her due to her grappling hook ability. Meaning a very easy kill for said DPS.

[clever jackal]

But Brutus is just stupidly strong

And golus isn't helping

[coarse shard]

@clever jackal Hmm, looking at your heroes... IDK much about Tasi other than she's good support. Lucretia might be a good idea in this case, she should immediately target Brutus. I actually used her for a while until I got Rowan, who I soon swapped into my team since I didn't have a good support and Rowan is a god at support (plus Lucretia just kept dying by the point I got him so).

[willow moon]

@old ore is Eironn getting the succ, or is he getting interrupted?

[clever jackal]

So the tactic here is just to afk and get xp for my heroes

[inland egret]

@old ore god comp

[old ore]

Interrupted.

God comp can suck a dick from my heroes, useless right now lol.

[inland egret]

it worked for me even with e +(mehira)

level of opponents is small

[coarse shard]

Ascending Mirael should help too @clever jackal. Don't fodder off Mirael, especially if you get Fawkes and want to use him, as Fawkes is in a union with her and Raine.

[inland egret]

they will have time to make a circle of energy I think

[old ore]

Talene is a big L(literally) ezizh, mehira, twins insta die like fucking losers

[inland egret]

just try )

[old ore]

I've tried though...

[coarse shard]

Try switching around the positioning of the heroes @old ore That can help a lot

[clever jackal]

This is just stupid

[noble vault]

Anyone have a ss for KT 450 that isn't daimon or godcomp?

[willow moon]

if he's being interrupted then put him in backline, that's a good start. Arthur isn't super useful here as the backline will likely run out of his rally and make it useless.

[inland egret]

eironn athalia talene twins artur

[old ore]

Man... These celepogs only challenges can go suck a large dick. Such a shady p2w challenge, not everyone has god comp heroes, fucking hell

[inland egret]

twins behind artur need

[clever jackal]

Yeah this game is pretty p2w

[coarse shard]

I don't consider it that at all. I'm a F2P player, and I've gotten pretty far on my own merit.

[noble vault]

I'm F2p and they were easy, but I've been playing a year.

[coarse shard]

Tho I've also been looking up guides for the Arena Trials, cause fuck those

[willow moon]

Yeah this game is pretty p2w
lol it's really not

[inland egret]

@old ore my god comp

[noble vault]

Gosh comp

[coarse shard]

Tho tbh I came here because I needed help myself. This is where I'm stuck, plus the heroes I have.

[noble vault]

Getting #545919777907015684 tho 🙉

[old ore]

In certain areas, it is. More recent events have been going more and more p2w. AE, misty, and new harder to obtain celepogs.

[clever jackal]

Yeah I've gotten pretty far in 1 day as a f2p player but in situations like this it's easier to buy stuff

Not that im gonna spend anything

[old ore]

Omg, it worked, thanks so much 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[coarse shard]

I'm wondering who I should put on the Resonating Crystal and who to put in to beat Isabelle & Silvina

[willow moon]

it's always going to be easier to buy stuff. that doesn't mean it's not feasible as f2p
bombon you can have a terrible account as long as your guild carries you through AE
Misty Valley isn't p2w, as long as you've been following recommended guides and hero choices, by the time you unlock MV you should be able to plow through it
overall I think if anything else the game has only gotten easier for f2p

[inland egret]

@old ore ahaha

ez for eironn

[noble vault]

Go somewhere else guys #classic-chat

[clever jackal]

What do guilds do anyway

[old ore]

What are you talking about? Dragon crystals now have made it whale heaven. And don't talk about misty like it's only hero selections, f2p don't get a large garrison of celepogs to consistently beat with 4+ heroes. There's also the horrid scaling, everything's busted. Stop arguing about this cause it's really off topic.

@inland egret check the image again

[noble vault]

@coarse shard Lucius, eironn, wikong, Rowan, fawkes maybe? Your choices are pretty slim so you might need to just get more heros or power level Belinda

[old ore]

Scaling isn't the same @inland egret the game isn't good in the numbers department. Godcomp won't work for me

[marsh nymph]

Can someone help me on this stage plz

[coarse shard]

@clever jackal Guilds & friends allow you to get mercenaries, as well as filling out your unions in the Library - which can be very important for boosting certain heroes. Mirael for instance, has a union with Fawkes and Raine. Putting all three in there (you can use your fellow guild members' heroes for this, too) will get you the boost for those three heroes, increasing certain stats of those three heroes. In this case: Defense stuff at basic level, Defense & ATK/Crit at E+ level, and then that stuff plus HP & Accuracy at Leg+ level. This can help you in campaign and... really just everything.

[inland egret]

@old ore try check equip

[noble vault]

Lyca, Lucius, tasi, Rowan, Belinda @marsh nymph ?

@inland egret @coarse shard @old ore forreal go to a different channel. Y'all make this channel suck with all the chatter.

[coarse shard]

Why? We're helping people, dude

[noble vault]

With their lineup?

[inland egret]

@noble vault
I'm trying to help him put together a team dont worry

[old ore]

It's still lineup talk, right?

[coarse shard]

That's where it started. Don't get mad if a conversation gets on to another topic just because it started on something else. Conversations flow.

[inland egret]

@old ore equip gears and relics

[old ore]

Which relics?

[noble vault]

Lol k

[coarse shard]

Anyway, @noble vault about the comp you suggested; not sure if I've tried that or not. I'll try it and if it doesn't work, I guess I'll just have to wait until I get my free Elite+ copy of Belinda at midnight tonight.

(and hope for another Elite copy of her from the tavern 👀)

[old ore]

Nah, moist has a point, this is #lineup-help , but people shouldn't get pissy if one sentence is said out of topic, sometimes these things happen.

@inland egret they just die quicker, not even scratching an enemy, wtf

[inland egret]

@old ore eironn solo or god comp
choose one

[coarse shard]

The real question is which order to put Lucius, Eironn, Wukong, Rowan, and Fawkes in. 🤔

[noble vault]

I shared it in order. 1,2,3,4,5

[coarse shard]

Ah, oki

[old ore]

What's eironn solo?

[inland egret]

with talene twins and etc (u have nakoruru ezio and artur)

[coarse shard]

Also I have 5 spaces on my Resonant Crystal and I'm not sure who else to put in aside from Eironn. I think I have 3 slots open right about now (I removed heroes yesterday cause I decided to reevaluate who I put on it). Should have my 5th open again by sometime tomorrow.

[old ore]

Eironn bad early game though

[coarse shard]

also HOLY SHIT IT WORKED, YES

[inland egret]

gwyn artur nakoruru talene twins

[noble vault]

Saveas is a great carry till 160. Lucretia might be useful at your level but I don't really know. Mirael is good til 160 and plays better with your lightbearers stock

[inland egret]

@old ore
twins
-nakoruru
talene
-artur
gwyn

---

[old ore]

Holy shit, this is pissing me off. I'll try again tomorrow, thanks for your help, I'm so furious. I'm quitting the game because of this holy shit, it's so annoying

[coarse shard]

I actually had Lucretia in my campaign team before this, ended up replacing her with Rowan earlier today because she kept dying in the stages I was in. She might work again here, though. 🤔

[inland egret]

@old ore
I also hate this game because 2 levels with luc and zaph

[noble vault]

She might be trash for all I know but she does give a def boost which could help. It looks like you're pulling lots of lb but I would suggest leaning towards wilder earlier. They're just Soo good at all aspects of the game

[coarse shard]

Do you think I should put Vedan on the Resonant Crystal? I have an Elite+ copy of him and I hear he's really good.

I actually don't have a lot of Wilder heroes, my luck has not favored me with those

At least not a lot of Ascended tier Wilders

[old ore]

@inland egret thanks again, appreciate it

[coarse shard]

I don't even have Tasi or Lyca or Nemora lol

[noble vault]

He's like a secondary dps but you have alot of dps currently. Basically no cc, little support from baby Rowan. I would definitely do arden

[coarse shard]

Cool. That's four slots filled. Saveas, Mirael, Arden, and Eironn. Gonna have to figure out who to put in the fifth, and eventually the sixth whenever I get that open.

[noble vault]

You're gonna move them alot early on. But I'd recommend using faction scrolls on wilders and bring in tasi lyca and saurus

[coarse shard]

I'll try, but IDK how to get a lot of faction scrolls. I only got ten from a code like yesterday I think, when I started looking up redeem codes.

Their description says I can get them from events but... I haven't really seen any

[tepid sequoia]

Anyone wanna help my lineup with ascended merc?

[willow moon]

@tepid sequoia #mercenary

[tepid sequoia]

@willow moon I did try to add people and all their friend list full

[wintry bane]

What is the fastest way to level up all 5 heroes?

[willow moon]

play the game
also that belongs in #classic-questions

[wintry bane]

This is lineup-help bruh

[willow moon]

yeah? as in for help with your lineup. being stuck on a stage, advises with how to build your team...
not asking a base function of the game, leveling
i didn't mean to be rude, it's just a straightforward answer. you play the game and/or afk, that's how you get resources to level up

[graceful coral]

best line up for each faction? (tower of esperia/ hero lvl: 200)

[willow moon]

that's a really tough call to make without seeing your heroes, mate. i could recommend 5 you don't even have

[graceful coral]

I think I got them all

[stuck trellis]

@graceful coral we can't give u a standard lineup for every tower because you don't own every hero in the game
thats heavily dependent on what heroes u have

[willow moon]

^

[stuck trellis]

or to be more precise, u don't have every hero ascended

[graceful coral]

oh that's true, does ascention play that a huge roll even if they are the same lvl? I wasnt aware of that

[stuck trellis]

ascensions are massive
just post a picture of ur heroes and we can help :)

[graceful coral]

I dont have Theowin, Lorsan, Ulmus, Drez, Satrana, Antandra, Oscar and Hendrik

the rest of them I have them all

[stuck trellis]

@graceful coral like I said ascensions play a big part lol
a picture of your heroes would allow us to help much better

[willow moon]

yeah send them pics

[graceful coral]

I was waiting for the timer sorry

[willow moon]

keep in mind there's also not just one set in stone team, it'll vary depending on enemy team comps

[stuck trellis]

gb : shemira fera daimon thoran grezhul/oden

lb : belinda lucius rowan rosa fawkes

mauler ; brutus tidus skreg/khasos safiya numisu

wilder : saurus tasi lyca eironn nemora/gorvo@graceful coral

shem and belinda frontline usually, but positioning is entirely stage dependant

[willow moon]

that's about right yeah. and yeah enemy comps will absolutely shift the order, if not even require a different hero from that list altogether (eg wanting Skriath for Mauler for the Sandstorm rng)

[graceful coral]

thanks guys, how do you position Daimon?

[willow moon]

typically BL behind a tank. you just want him to ult so he can snowball
use drape on him, if he consistently dies before he ults with drape then switch to call

[graceful coral]

got you, thanks guys

[willow moon]

anytime!

[blissful parcel]

Can anyone please help me for 3 teams for legends?

[willow moon]

I can make a solid 2 teams outta that but the 3rd is gonna be kinda scuffed

where's your Arthur? and what have you spent your challenger coins on if you have L ezizh, flora, and no Ath?

@blissful parcel

Saf Blade
    Tasi Call
Eironn Call
    Lyca Grace
Nako Eye

Fera Eye
    Thoran Call
Shem Blade
    Talene Blade
Flora Blade

Gwyn Convic/Eye
    Ezio Grace/Call
Rosa Blade
    Saurus Blade/Call
Luci Chalice

[stuck trellis]

belinda can't get enough energy to cast here

I've tried swapping belinda out for gwyn but it hasn't seemed to work

fawkes coffins belinda here

[inland egret]

@stuck trellis
gwyn
-rowan
rosa
-luc
fawkes
try this

[stuck trellis]

@inland egret after a bit of retrying it seems like it could work

main problem is my gwyn takes too long to kill raine and estrilda and so its always athalia thane belinda at the end who finish off my team

[inland egret]

ye athalia big problem

[stuck trellis]

@inland egret any arti u would change?

maybe eye gwyn

[inland egret]

gwyn eye , rowan call , rosa call/blade , lucius chalice of vitality , fawkes eye

i hope lucius survive

[willow moon]

@stuck trellis i used hendrick for that stage and he dove to Gwyn while she swept.. tho that clearly isn't an option for ya unless you merc. I reckon what you're trying now is pretty solid.

[stuck trellis]

yeah I might just merc hendrik then.. thanks guys @willow moon @inland egret

[inland egret]

@stuck trellis
if that doesn't help just change gwyn to belinda

[brave wagon]

eye should be default on gywn btw

@stuck trellis

[stuck trellis]

call feels really nice on her tho :<
I'll run eye from now on

[willow moon]

eye or convic, her ult isn't great so she doesn't really need call.. the haste is nice but eye is more sufficient in doing that

[valid bobcat]

Can anyone help??