#lineup-help
summer marsh
Top row is my team and I'm pretty stalled out. Any suggestions with what I have available?
On Chapter 25-44 btw (Rowan has SI30)
summer marsh
stuck trellis
@summer marsh use this
safiya
rowan
eironn
tasi
lyca
that's a much better team than ur top row, just have to change it up a little depending on the stage
summer marsh
Ok I will try that out. ty
jolly bay
may I ask about the formation here? I just started playing.
pulsar vector
need help on this stage any suggestions?
jolly bay
@pale kettle thanks sir
Is there a hero recommendation to fill the front line? who should i use as tanker, thoran or gorvo or grezhul?
stuck trellis
can someone post a KT 389 ss
surreal ibex
I would personally suggest Grezhul or Gorvo, They've always been good to me
@jolly bay ^
jolly bay
I would personally suggest Grezhul or Gorvo, They've always been good to me
@surreal ibex thanks for your advice, really helped me.
If I do something wrong on this channel, please let me know. I have no experience with discord
stuck trellis
@pale kettle if u cleared recently can't u click this button? here is the stage btw
oh I see
so same positioning just saf out for fera yeah?
oh yeah that seems to work nicely
thanks
brave oriole
even m daimon can clear 389
lament olive
Anyone have a line-up for 32-4-2?
lament olive
Cheers, I'll give it a shot. The ones in the records are all overleveled so my hero just get deleted before they do anything
elfin wyvern
Im on the verge of giving up
brave oriole
@elfin wyvern why? it's easy to win 😭
elfin wyvern
Then give me the winning lineup 🙂
granite pier
please help, been stuck for several days
brave oriole
well, its all RNG , about nemora charming, but
rosa
shem
rowan
Lucius call
nara
@granite pier safiya or arden would help, and Belinda, but you don't have one so try
safiya
Lucius call
rowan
rosa
shemira
elfin wyvern
Alright, i doubt E nara and E rosa will live 2 seconds
brave oriole
@elfin wyvern with some decent gear, should
toxic flame
Im happy enough with the consistency on the first team now but this is giving me hell. Not sure what to do
subtle yoke
Im on the verge of giving up
@elfin wyvern that farael and talene are not doing any work there, replace them with some control like tasi or fawkes, and the other one with lyca or rosa
brave oriole
@toxic flame you need lorsan I guess
@toxic flame it's mostly nara to pull saveas, talene is fine, but thoran middle, front lorsan and the last one Backline lyca or ferael. if you ferael is strong, put him. front and lorsan Backline
toxic flame
@brave oriole ferael is needed for first team
elfin wyvern
Fawkes gets interrupted before coffin no matter where i put him and tasi does nothing because my team is dying even faster
brave oriole
@toxic flame then lyca
toxic flame
And lyca is also in the first team
brave oriole
then Brutus and talene front, Backline nara thoran lorsan
@elfin wyvern you can also try
rosa
shem
rowan
talene
Lucius call
toxic flame
brave oriole
@toxic flame dunno if the second team can win, your thoran will die fast. tried rowan on his place?
toxic flame
Ive tried a few variations including thatbone
brave oriole
I'm close, just i have to manual on thoran after res, he does the ultimate too early
toxic flame
@brave oriole my problem is that even when Thoran is in middle back antandra gets behind him
brave oriole
@toxic flame
this works good, just i need the perfect time to manual thoran after he res
cosmic dust
Any tips for this stage?
brave oriole
@cosmic dust maybe rowan middle and nara to pull arden
like
daimon
rosa
rowan
Brutus
nara or so
or you can Frontline Brutus and Rosa down
vernal pond
Suggestive lineups to beat 31-4-2? I use rowan tasi safiya eironn Mercenary Ezizh to beat 1st stage. My winrate depends on the enemy tasi rng of course. I haven't been able to experiment much with 2nd lineup. 2 possible teams I'm thinking about is using either of Gwyneth/Daimon as carries
toxic flame
@vernal pond daimon carry is your best bet. I would be doing that but the eironn/saf/ezhiz comp was too low winrate on fight 1 for me so I need daimon there
vernal pond
With Daimon it would be a lot easier to beat if I were to kill at least 1 enemy during his shield but I haven't killed even one yet on any of the 7 or 8 attempts that I've attacked the 2nd stage. I've been trying Talene Arthur Lyca Gwyneth Ferael/ Thoran Talene Nara Ferael Daimon
brave oriole
have you used call on your daimon?
brave oriole
you are talking about the second or first fight?
vernal pond
Second fight. 1st fight i don't have any problem
brave oriole
ah, well, your thoran is +30?
vernal pond
Sadly no haha. Can't use him since I'm already using merc Ezizh
brave oriole
I have seen a cheese with a 20 or so, but he has also ferael lyca
so they insta forced Brutus shield
and he died easy then
rose stream
Anyone here good in pvp line up? Can you please help me how to beat these defenses. Don’t know if its level gap, bit I have a better tree, both sustenance and celerity are 37. Thanks! Here’s my hero pool also. Appreciate if you can suggest a good PVP def also 😊
lament olive
@brave oriole It worked, cheers. 32-4-1 and 32-4-2 are so damn hard and then 32-4-3 is free af.
wet meadow
knotty galleon
can someone help me with a Thane-centric lineup?
what i have now is
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Thane
Lyca
i feel like i could do better
cyan solar
Someone help me with this one please, lb team and wilder team keeps getting obliterated
pearl scarab
How can I survive the initial burst and dps? Brutus wasn't much of a help so far, since my carries got killed anyway
knotty galleon
@pale kettle i know, i'm just doing it for fun
pearl scarab
@pale kettle wow, worked in the first try, thanks a lot man!
stuck trellis
@acoustic trout
safiya
rowan
eironn
talene
tasi
it will take some rng because you are pulling brutus
or you can do
tasi
talene/lyca/brutus
rowan
eironn
safiya
acoustic trout
thanks i'll give those a go, i had several runs with talene,rowan front, and lucius, tasi, eironn back, where it comes down to a 3 or 4 v 1 against brutus and one spin at 1hp pretty much wipes everyone out
stuck trellis
yeah with brutus, you either rng dodge and try to pop his shield as fast as you can, or you just tank him and let ur units kill the rest of his team
brave wagon
but then he can still 1v5 spin your team down, so 
acoustic trout
just managed to beat it, replaced talene with lyca and it worked out
stuck trellis
congrats!
stuck trellis
@hidden kraken here was my clear of 27-10, grtting ferael to +20 will probably help u so u want that soon
hidden kraken
What should i do here?
urban minnow
undone olive
Hey how any idea how to beat that?
clear roost
Stuck on 16-36, any help?
distant mango
Need help
compact breach
Help with 31-4 Please. The first team I can complete it. But not the second. Is this formation okay? Which one did you use?
signal lintel
Any advice on this one?
undone olive
can someone hel me how to beat that?
pale kettle
@signal lintel is warek getting pulled in? If no put fera instead of lyca, if yes try fera instead of saf
languid ivy
Help plz ?
lone shale
So, what should I use against Hard Mode Wrizz?
distant mango
Help
thick saddle
hidden kraken
I got through already 😄 currently at 27 32
stuck trellis
oooh nice
hidden kraken
Am progressing slowly but steadily
cerulean plover
Looking for some help on misty valley that I just unlocked. Who should I get as a Merc?
Okay is that probably my best bet for clearing the rest of the stages? I doubt I'll be able to clear more then the first level of challeneges
distant mango
@pale kettle tasi can’t survive either way
signal lintel
@pale kettle will try it out, thank you
wet meadow
jaunty chasm
Stuck in chapter 10, time running out saveas vs saveas, any tips?
tropic storm
Thoughts from here?
Is Saveas as good as the tier list shows? Should I take him up more?
open kernel
@tropic storm get non-ascended heroes to L+ in order to increase your crystal cap. Yes Saveas will likely carry you until your team surpasses level 160.
So don't ascend any heroes to L that aren't "fodder" unless you can get them to L+ immediately or you will get stuck.
tropic storm
Right now Shemira destroys everything doing 10x his damage. I guess I’ll keep getting him up. And yea, I caught that recently, thanks for the tip
open kernel
Sure thing. He will have sustained DPS while Shem is reliant on her ult. You'll want to try and build her to M at least, she is one of the best carries until level 240-ish
@tropic storm btw usually you would ask these kinds of things in #classic-questions , this channel is help on beating certain stages
spring sleet
sudden nymph
Im super horrible when it comes to teambuilding, i just throw stuff togheter and see what sticks.
Is there a lineup with these heroes i should focus on that could help me through the pve content?
vocal hazel
Lower pve content, I'd go Lucien and Rowan front line, Bellinda, Eironn, Faereal/Flora back line
Try to keep 3 of the same faction on the team, or 2 and a celestial (like Flora)
sudden nymph
I'll give that one a try, thanks!
Are there any of my heroes i should also be prioritizing to put on the crystal?
north tree
warped peak
I been trying to switch heroes out to create a distraction so shemira can pop her ult but she is so slow... Any suggestions?
wet meadow
Has anyone got a good line up for chapter 19
I have been told about the M+ thing and the L-L+ thing
onyx pollen
Too much elite makes you weak ... Just like too many factions ... Never take lucius away and it would not be good to leave shemira in front this time
For me will be
Shemira/eiron
Lucius
Rowan
Talane
Brutus/shemira
wet meadow
How's this
warped peak
Why dont you make use of your twins?
onyx pollen
You used the food badly and you went up to that swordsman for sure to sacrifice yourself to belinda ... Or you forgot her ... I remember spending many levels with her or shamira with Rosaline always ... Rowan always in the center and talane and lucius in front ... .
jolly stump
shemira might be able to tank at the top
onyx pollen
I think... You have few heores strong... You need rowan mistic
jolly stump
try running shemira talene rosa rowan lucius
jolly stump
do shemira have trouble surviving against brutus at the bottom front?
warped peak
If I am against brutus i usually use fawkes or nara to counter
onyx pollen
Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Nemora/tasi/belinda/axe
jolly stump
i wouldnt put shemira where ira can hit her since ira applies heal debuff
small moth
Ideas ?
onyx pollen
Tienes buenos heore...nemora en el medio para que encante a farael..... Rosaline delante para que busque a shemira y lucius atrás o burtus o thoran vas probando
Si nemora encanta a fareal... Será estupendo te lo aseguro
small moth
Yout talking to me ? I'am bit bad in spanish @onyx pollen
onyx pollen
Yes
small moth
And rowan where ?
onyx pollen
You have good heore ... nemora in the middle so that farael enchants ..... Rosaline in front so that she looks for shemira and lucius in the back or burtus or thoran you are trying If nemora enchants fareal ... It will be great I assure you
small moth
So it Would be :
Lucius
Rosa
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan ?
onyx pollen
Rowan in the same site
small moth
?
onyx pollen
Try
small moth
Gracias 🙂
small moth
Alright thx, i'am gonna try many times
onyx pollen
sharp socket
Is there any team I can build to counter this one with my lvl and heroes?
toxic flame
This is what I did @mellow kestrel
warm rock
i‘m really not sure why i fail this stage. appreciate the insight if anybody got some
mellow kestrel
Thx alot but should rowan be on safiya side for faster ult?
toxic flame
He is on safiya side...
Safiya
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Lyca
Is the team shown in my screenshot
mellow kestrel
Oh I'm dumb thx alot. Mate
toxic flame
No problem haha
@warm rock rowan can be used to tank the saveus. Talene is just going to die and leave backline vulnerable. Im thinking
Belinda
Lucius
Eironn
Rowan
Safiya
Im not too keen on the belinda though maybe replace her with lyca or tasi if u still have problems.
warm rock
i‘ll try it out, thanks! is safiya really that great? she feels quite bad in auto 😦 edit: wow, your suggestion worked in the first try
mellow kestrel
if u have rosa remove belindra and let her follow shemira
slow sleet
I don’t have Rosa
mellow kestrel
instead of athalia try to use oden? and try add lucicus for more sustain and healing
mellow kestrel
skreg
slow sleet
Ok
compact breach
Help with 31-4 Please. The first team I can complete it. But not the second. Is this formation okay? Which one did you use?
hazy phoenix
maybe nemura instead of lorsan he is elite what can he do XD
forest dirge
Lorsan is there for his link @hazy phoenix
compact breach
Lorsan doesn't matter that he's Elite.
forest dirge
@compact breach I did r2 with Daimon
But only because I didn't have +30 Thoran.
Talene/Thoran (+10) frontline, Nara/Farael/Daimon backline
granite pier
@slow sleet dont make L without being able to directly ascend to L+
compact breach
Maybe I could order a mercenary Daimon and try. The problem that I don't have a good Talene@forest dirge
forest dirge
@compact breach I've seen most ss of wins with Thoran +30 for team 2. I think there's just RNG involved.
craggy talon
Think I used Lyca/Lorsen, Nara/Thoran(+30)merc/Farael @compact breach
coarse cradle
@compact breach 31-4 r2 you could probably do it without daimon and just do a regular cheese with thoran +30 as well by swapping daimon for nara
pale kettle
whats wrong today.. no one ask for help since soon 30 min - haha
solid goblet
Wanna help me with my stage then? 😜
pale kettle
hahaha. I think u have more experience , but I would try everytime my best!
craggy talon
What was 31-56? Lol
distant mango
Help
pale kettle
Lyca/Eiron
Eiron/Lyca
rowan
Saurus
Saf/Tasi
Lyca
Eiron
rowan
Rowan
Saurus
@distant mango u can try this - Eiron Vitality, Tasi Call, rowan call, Saf call, lyca attack speed
distant mango
Need help
pale kettle
Fawkes/tasi
Rowan
Ferael/Safiya
Lyca
Eiron
compact breach
Yes ... it's what I'm doing. Trying to make the cheese work. I guess it will be a matter of RNG ..@craggy talon @coarse cradle
craggy talon
Is your Thoran +30?
slow sleet
Sum one help this annoying Ferrell is impossible to kill
lone shale
Hard mode Wrizz team halp pls
north trellis
Help please
pale kettle
@lone shale Lucius, rosa, shemira, rowan twins (if u have from friend saurus)^^
north trellis
Hard mode Wrizz team halp pls
@lone shale rose baden shemira rowan belinda
stuck trellis
also get that eironn 30 asap, it will help
slow sleet
Help please I’m asking nicely
north trellis
also get that eironn 30 asap, it will help
@stuck trellis he is who I am currently working on, he is 24 now
stuck trellis
@slow sleet
rowan
shem
nemora
skreg
lucius
lone shale
@pale kettle @north trellis
Ty guys, gonna do a coin flip between my +10 twins and the Beli, will tell you which won when I edit this.
UPDATE: Twins won.
north trellis
his is probabky better but thats who I used before
@stuck trellis that worked!!! Thanks man
spring sleet
solid goblet
@eager kernel
Ferael
Damion
Rosa
Lucius
Lyca
try this?
@spring sleet
Oof, almost 100 levels under haha
Swap safiya and lyca. Might have to level
clear roost
Help
spring sleet
@solid goblet thought so thanks for trying to help ill try it
solid goblet
@clear roost
Nemora
Shem
Tasi
Lucius
Lyca
Try this?
@spring sleet No problem. I have the same issue rn. Pushed really fast and got underleveled haha
stuck trellis
spring sleet
cool lmk if you want a friend in game i got some spots open rn
stuck trellis
@spring sleet try this? I'm disgustingly overleveled but if u put call on eironn it could work
clear roost
@solid goblet They wiped out my team in a snap
solid goblet
@craggy talon Sorry, was at work so I couldnt respond haha. I can post if you want
@clear roost How's your gear and artifacts?
craggy talon
If you want to, I cleared it a few days ago but forgot the enemy team
eager kernel
@solid goblet nope stil lose
solid goblet
First stage is fairly straight forward but second I cant seem to beat lol
clear roost
@solid goblet mostly legendary and im about to get duras blade
solid goblet
Btw, to all Ive been talking to, a lot of comps, especially when your formation is underleveled, requires a lot of luck. Sometimes you must reset multiple times before winning. So, if you get close one time with a comp, try resetting over and over and hope for good luck
spring sleet
why no rowan in either team? @solid goblet
solid goblet
@spring sleet Second team had rowan at one point while I was testing comps. First team wins without fairly easily.
spring sleet
makes sense
solid goblet
Second team is just who I was using last haha. Might have to switch around first team to make second one work.
solid goblet
@clear roost make sure best gear is on whoever you are using for each battle when you have a hard time. Other than that, I recommend continuing to ascend and level as you can.
@spring sleet Unfortunately. But I can add you for next week if you need him.
spring sleet
yes please my name is ducksmack in game
craggy talon
@solid goblet is your rowan following Gwyn? that was my problem at first and I got Arthur to +20 and only took a few tries
solid goblet
My Rosa? Unfortunately not atm.
craggy talon
Yea, typo. I was told to remove furniture so she follows gywn
solid goblet
Yeah I need her +20. shes at 18 rn lol. Ill try that. Shes following lyca rn
twin hound
Why does gwyn always die instantly
pale kettle
@twin hound cause ur Gwen lower as her? 😄
try put gwyn for Ferael and ferael fo rosa
placid elm
Could anyone help me with some line up help for LCT???
https://i.imgur.com/94KD8N6.png
You can see my current line up but it just doen't seems to work well enough for some lower power people pushing me around : /
twin hound
Yeah maybe someday after ezio
proud kettle
I’ve been playing a few weeks semi aimlessly, here is my current lineup. I’m mostly F2P. I just jumped on here to get some advice and start making better progress. What should I do next?
pale kettle
Carrys should be 20-30 level over the others. So u should focus level ur belinda.^^
proud kettle
OK - Any other must have heroes I should raise? The beginners guide lists entirely seperate heroes from what Ive been using. Is it worth focussing on those instead of my current lineup?
pale kettle
Belinda
Lucius
Lyca?
Brutus/estrilla
nemora/tasi
U need rowan^^ or u upgrade Wukong as carry but he's just E+. so better focus Belinda and maybe shemira, shemira is one of the best mid game carrys.
Rosa would be nice too - I like combs like Eiron, Lyca, Tasi, (nara), rowan first later. Others doing it at start maybe. Ur saurus is nice for start for Wrizz/soeren, u can put him sometimes maybe too as frontlane
proud kettle
thanks!
pale kettle
in #545929173471068170 u finde heros for ur "wishlist" as start @proud kettle . Maybe read some guides and u will have a good progress as start. But we are also here to help u and do our best! 🙂
proud kettle
thanks!
craggy talon
@twin hound +30 Arthur, I’m at the same stage and it’s apparently the only way to do it with that comp
twin hound
I mean there’s people in the battle records without +30 Arthur
Maybe just need more RNG
craggy talon
Maybe, every time I got to that point none of my heroes got their ult off
My “winning formations” show only 1 person without +30 Arthur but they have +30 3/9 Gwyn
sleek heart
I feel like ferael is the main problem here . Any tips?
pale kettle
show all heros pls @sleek heart
lucid vessel
Hey guys, I need help here. My backline gets destroyed instantly, the only two that survive the first 5 seconds are Brutus and Izold but I still lose. Any help would be appreciated 😊
pale kettle
Lyca/Tasi/Fawkes
Lucius
rowan
Rosa
Shemira
@sleek heart
sleek heart
Lucius dies in 1 hit
pale kettle
on this comb he cant die in one hit 
sleek heart
Only reason im running brutus is that he stays alive longer, lucius just dies instantly but ill try
pale kettle
Eiron
Brutus
Rosa
Lucius
Shemira or Belinda
Where is ur rowan?
@lucid vessel
lucid vessel
@pale kettle On the 5th row, Lvl 140 Elite
sleek heart
1 hit dead lucius
pale kettle
ah didt saw him @lucid vessel
sleek heart
I need to stop farael somehow. But fawkes targets Shemira
pale kettle
so if u put brutus for Lucius not helpfull too?
coarse cradle
@sleek heart u can try to use nemora to charm ferael. Oh u don’t have nemora 😅
sleek heart
Would Nara work? i feel nemora is too RNG, I have Nemora at E+
twin hound
@craggy talon
coarse cradle
Nemora is better bc then he fears his own team. You can try nara too. You can also try Brutus shem Fawkes Rowan Rosa
sleek heart
Will test nemora
craggy talon
@twin hound nice, how many retries was that?
twin hound
Maybe 15-20
craggy talon
nice, i dont have +30 talene or athalia or thoran lol
twin hound
Well main point was that last team, that’s where I was struggling
craggy talon
right, didn't think to put in brutus
coarse cradle
Brutus making a comeback in multis 
sleek heart
Ok got really close with nemora, will do 100 runs maybe it works
odd ginkgo
How may hours of retry
coarse cradle
Wtf your thoran didn’t even cheese
odd ginkgo
Huh so u used ur reds on tjoran ?
odd ginkgo
Scum
pale kettle
coarse cradle
Hmm so strange. Maybe just rng lol
odd ginkgo
How did u 3020 w eiron mid or rowan?
Not close but it works w her as background and safia front.lol, just neeed more retryes 
proud rapids
odd ginkgo
My safia is like endgame one. Just there for the buff w her +10 lol.
pale kettle
gz
stoic sun
pale kettle
Saf/belinda
Rosa
rowan
Brutus
Nara/Tasi/lyca
@stoic sun
lucid light
Help pls 😦
pale kettle
Wukong
Estrilla
Nemora
Shemira
Belinda
try this @lucid light
spring sleet
pale kettle
Brutus/daimon
rowan
Fawkes
Rosa
Belinda
u could try this @spring sleet
spring sleet
ill try it thansk
lucid light
@pale kettle thanks dude
pale kettle
works? - so gz! 🙂
proper veldt
Welp
pale kettle
Rosa
Brutus
Arden/fawkes
Lucius
Belinda
@proper veldt
ember wagon
which hero should i up to 240 first?
stuck trellis
rowan or lucius
proper veldt
@pale kettle worked winders.. ty
pale kettle
nice to hear, thats I can help while drunk 😄
ember wagon
Im stuck here again
ember wagon
im only tower 135 so i cant help u
pale kettle
lol thats non argument.. I try help people thats higher as me
but show all ur heros pls @ember wagon
ember wagon
Hold up
pale kettle
@stuck trellis maybe
Eiron
Saurus
Lyca
Tasi
idk the name of the same like u took^^
ember wagon
This all
stuck trellis
@pale kettle so lorsan stays in at the bottom slot?
pale kettle
y
stuck trellis
u didn't put a fifth in the lineup xD
red zephyr
Hi guys, just joined, rly need some help/insight cause im pretty stuck
pale kettle
Eiron
Lucius
fawkes/Tasi
Rowan
Lyca
@ember wagon
ember wagon
Ok ill try
pale kettle
idk the name of the same like u took^^
was the 5th @stuck trellis
red zephyr
These are my heroes atm, can upgrade a lightbearer and a wilder
Stuck at 10-28 and floor 129 at king tower
pale kettle
sorry but u should show us this stage.. we dont know at mind what this stages have^^
red zephyr
This one
pale kettle
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi/wukong
@red zephyr u could try this
red zephyr
Everyone except daimon almost instantly dies
pale kettle
Daimon
Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Nemora
pale kettle
Rosa
Brutus
Arden
Lucius
Belinda
dont work there?^^
red zephyr
No luck, all ends up in daimon vs 4 guys
dry blaze
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/582872447905300482/758152358063636550/Screenshot_20200923-052634_AFK_Arena.jpg , https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/582872447905300482/758152358575996988/Screenshot_20200923-052627_AFK_Arena.jpg
any ideas? Warek Vedan and shemira are mostly alive when i lose
pale kettle
Wukong
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Daimon
@red zephyr
Shemira/belinda
Lyca
Tasi
Rowan
Eiron
@dry blaze
red zephyr
Did it in the end, thank rng lords for vedan dying fast
Had daimon, flora, rowan, lucius and rosa
pale kettle
gz! nice to hear 🙂 I wish u much progress!
red zephyr
Thanks, and upgrade wise which one should i do?
pale kettle
Ur "dmg hero" should be ~ 20 level over all. Thats atm Daimon.
Upgrade u can a lot of ur heros.. I would focus Daimon and Rowan.. First SL should be later rowan
odd musk
I need help, was wondering if I could do better in Wrizz. This is the lineup I have used for about 50 levels now, I average 16 boxes. Was wondering if I could do more
red zephyr
I meant ascending by upgrading, i can do almost all lightbearers and from wilders tasi and eironn
pale kettle
@odd musk take an "Saurus " from u friends.
After that use
belinda
Baden
rowan
Saurus (from friend, rosa should follow saurus)
Rosa
@red zephyr still Rowan.. and target him as SL +30 - in wilders Eiron but Maybe I would do Mystic rowan and Mystic Lucius
stuck trellis
@odd musk like plaquerat said, using a saurus will double ur damage easily
I hit 300m around ur level iirc
pale kettle
if u dont have a friend with an "good" saurus ask in #mercenary
mint dirge
Hey guys, started playing just a few days ago and wanted to know a good general lineup I should focus on
pale kettle
in #545929173471068170 u fine a may tips for early @mint dirge
bleak hawk
Is it just a level deficit or is can I tweak this around somehow
stoic sun
@pale kettle Safiya dies instantly
pale kettle
Tasi
Saurus
Mirael
Talene
Lucius
@bleak hawk
tidal spear
29-59 is kicking my ass. Any tips?
pale kettle
Ferael
Rowan
Tasi
Eiron
Lyca
@tidal spear
tidal spear
Very close. Numisu is the sole survivor. If by eironn wouldn't die so quickly it would be a cakewalk. I'll try to refresh a few times. Thanks
pale kettle
try few times or try other artefakts 🙂
tidal spear
That did it! Wow, thank you
pale kettle
nice to hear! I wish u more progress 🙂
tidal spear
Than you
stoic sun
pale kettle
Lucius
Talene
Rowan
Shemira (or replace with rosa)
Rosa ( run to Shemira)
@stoic sun
stoic sun
Rosa goes to Rowan and isn't Daimon better than Shemira?
pale kettle
pull some gear out of rowan. and put it to shemira. So that rosa follow shemira.
I dont play with Daimon.. so I cant handle line ups with him^^
stoic sun
I've tried, no matter the gear setup she always follows Rowan
pale kettle
ahhh y nvm. I looking wrong. was thinking rowan is "under" shemira But its sl 30 lol
Daimon
rowan
Flora
Lucius
Nara/Rosa
stoic sun
The team dies instantly still lol
brave oriole
@stoic sun Brutus fawk instead of talene tasi
lucid light
how should i position the team guys? please help
lucid light
Doesnt work bro gorvo and brutus die in too easily 😦
restive temple
How would you improve my lineup ? Haven't stargazed at all and I still have the chest to pick a hero from one of the 4 faction or the green haired girl from the white faction, I also have a purple card available in the tavern
Thank you very much !
slender ferry
Help for some reason can’t get my tasi to alt before athalia
velvet gazelle
Y’all think this will work?
urban minnow
What's the trick here
slender ferry
@pale kettle I can’t use feral bc of power cap
toxic flame
@urban minnow you need belinda to ult twice and die before the 15 second mark so saurus can do a bunch of damage.
For this to work rosa has to follow belinda and then saurus. If belinda is ulting twice and still saurus dies first switch him with rosa so he takes some time to walk up.
sleek heart
Vedan flies and kills everyone before my team does anything.. any tips?
cyan solar
Someone please help with this hell
My tassi just gets one shot
Lots and lots of rng i suppose
What artifects should i use here
slender ferry
Proof did you clear 29-60 without feral ?
Oh thanks I thought he was only useful in tower
compact breach
By the way @pale kettle , I just saw that you completed 31-4. wow that's amazing, congratulations. What team did you use against his second team??
spark peak
Need help getting past this level
winter drum
Any advices?
spark peak
I know Erionn/Safiya comp is good but I need to get 2 more safiya and 5 more tasi. Should I get arthur for Arthur/Gwyneth comp?
brave oriole
@spark peak I would, it takes some time
spark peak
@brave oriole Awesome I'm at 47k lab tokens and only need 15 more for Arthur. But should I SI+20 to Gwyneth or Arthur?
brave oriole
@spark peak well, both of them, slowly. Gwyn is awesome at +30
slender ferry
Nope
brave oriole
it's not ultra hard, what's your heroes?
slender ferry
Can’t use any non ascended bc of power cap
full finch
Can I get help creating 3 teams for Challenger tournament?
hybrid hollow
brave oriole
@slender ferry then merc a strong ferael
slender ferry
Already used my merc as so I’m waiting for next week :/
brave oriole
ah, okay then
@hybrid hollow not very sure man, but try
safiya
Brutus
rowan
rosa
shem
loud sapphire
Stuck on 29-38
brave oriole
you dont have Saurus?
loud sapphire
I swear I did that variant 10 times already, it just won. Thanks @pale kettle
Clearly 11 was the magic number!
brave wagon
Proof's screenshots carrying since 1923
brave wagon
they should be 
hoary folio
hybrid hollow
@hybrid hollow not very sure man, but try
safiya
Brutus
rowan
rosa
shem
@brave oriole safiya
robust aspen
unkempt field
Help me
clear roost
Help?
dusky mirage
any winning lineups for this stage?
golden crown
Can any1 help with this stage?
slender ferry
@dusky mirage
mortal sluice
Ideas?
elder delta
What’s the current meta for Soren?
loud sapphire
Stuck on 29-43
lean anchor
Im at ch 23 and have relied on shemira carry but feel I need a main team now to start using and progressing, I usually use lucious, shemira, talene, rowan, mehira, Any suggestions to who I should use instead or lvl or ascend next please
trail badge
@loud sapphire
open kernel
Any way for me to get gold in Misty (no ranger or mage)?
odd ginkgo
3026 any ss?
forest dirge
30-26, the stage? What heroes do you have? I've got a ss but if it's of people you don't have built, it won't help much lol.
fading cipher
30-26
loud sapphire
@trail badge 👌🏻 thanks
slender siren
Help with 19-32
hazy phoenix
balinda rowan rosa tasi and lucias did you try that? @slender siren
normal carbon
I'm stuck on 6-32 and don't know if I'm using the wrong people to level up and idk if I'm using a good formation
slender siren
@hazy phoenix thx
hazy phoenix
👍
open kernel
I'll try again... Any help to get gold here?
spare girder
I need help with this stage I'm not exactly sure which route to go for "DPS-wise"
valid comet
Im on 8-20 but in general my frontline is dying too quickly now. Any suggestions or better units i can start building?
cinder atlas
stuck on 28-58, tips ?
gilded bloom
@cinder atlaswhat heroes do you have?
cinder atlas
forest dirge
Put your Nara across from Mehira in place of Athalia
distant mango
Help
forest dirge
You're welcome!
spare girder
I'll try again... Any help to get gold here?
@open kernel
What's the requirement?
open kernel
No ranger no mage
spare girder
Rosa, Rowan, Lucius, Tasi, Nemora I guess should get it done... You'd rely on Rosa for DPS.
You can use Skreg for Lucius btw it doesn't matter sorry I didn't notice you sent your heroes as well
distant mango
Need help
open kernel
@spare girder I'll give those a shot. Thoran cheese wasn't quite working
fickle loom
Ideas?
restive temple
How would you improve my lineup ? Haven't stargazed at all and I still have the chest to pick a hero from one of the 4 faction or flora, I also have a purple card available in the tavern
Thank you very much !
forest dirge
@fickle loom I gave up on that floor and used a merc +30 Thoran.
fickle loom
@forest dirge 
where do i go for a 30 thoran merc
forest dirge
Haha my buddy has one so I just texted him. Mine will be +30 after Sigils is over.
eager kiln
i get murdered every time
fickle loom
@forest dirge can i ask for your thoran lineup in that stage? (sorry accidentally entered xD) don't have 30 thoran but might as well give it a try...
fickle loom
i could play around with talene or some other stuff to maybe get it working, even if not it's something to do for now. xD thanks.
nvm, really not seeeing good numbers with this...am I doing something wrong?
violet igloo
fickle loom
i'm not even seeing 20m from retries though, which kinda makes it feel impossible...not stopping just yet but not feeling too good about my prospects :|
hybrid hollow
hybrid hollow
i am hardstuck as hell i am at those for 2 weaks
@narrow raptor and how can some1 help you?
narrow raptor
any team position any hint smth ?
hybrid hollow
Atleast show against who you fight
narrow raptor
hybrid hollow
Rowan
belinda/rose
Belinda/rose
wukong
Tasi
Put kong in crystal youll need him like to 13th chapter
narrow raptor
oki tnx 🙂
stoic sun
slender siren
What about this?
zenith violet
Can someone help me here?
fickle loom
@zenith violet is your M rowan really tanking with that level diff, or are you just sacrificing him 0.0?
distant mango
Need help
pale kettle
zenith violet
@fickle loom rowan is my best pal 😉
pale kettle
Which hero to upgrade and what team to look out for? Kind of lost as a starter haha
fickle loom
@zenith violet O_O also grats lol, didn't even need help apparently. also rowan is EVERYONE'S best pal
pale kettle
zenith violet
Ye rng is also a good friend 😅
pearl zinc
Do any of our pre-saurus long term players have screens for WT with eironn govro lyca tasi nemora from 220+?
stoic sun
reef ibex
pearl zinc
@stoic sun i like to always put talene in position 1 or position 2 so her first death comes quick (good for her SI) and she reduces a lot of the initial burst damage from enemy initial abilities
reef ibex
Is this how it works here? Sorry complete noob in the game and on this discord I just started today😁
Thanks in advance for any tips 😊
stoic sun
@pearl zinc any other changes?
pearl zinc
Maybe move daimon to the top to minimize stakcs of ghosts from ferael
clear roost
Help
last lynx
I'm stuck on 6-28 right now, what should my lineup be?
craggy talon
Anyone have a clear of 31-60 with a Daimon comp?
timid compass
compact breach
@pale kettle you remember how many attempts did to complete tower 420 ?? I have the team suitable according all videos from YouTube (with SAF) but it is that it is impossible. Is absolutely a RNG 0.01% of possibilities😡 😡
coarse cradle
@pearl zinc without saurus it’s usually some variation of these heroes
pearl zinc
I'm just tower lazy and wanted to just copy paste someone's solutions
coarse cradle
KT420 gives me a headache
compact breach
yes, what I'm using, but it's impossible. I hate these battles that depend so much on rng..😡 😡
coarse cradle
@pearl zinc just find some poor schmuck without saurus that likes to push faction tower 
and add them
forest dirge
@timid compass here's what I used. +20 Lyca would really help you I think.
@pearl zinc I am tower lazy as well. Good thing between @pale kettle and @coarse cradle I can usually copy
coarse cradle
Btw @forest dirge when r u beating wilder 253 
forest dirge
Oh right it's wilder day isn't it.
Too pre-occupied with 31-28-2 being a pain in my ass.
coarse cradle
@compact breach oof u inspired me to try it again 
cloud fossil
29-26 help thx
if I put Eironn opposite of Nara,Nara will murder him
does it have to be ascended Fera?
finite epoch
lucius is so friggin annoying on wrizz, when he refuses to get that last 1% energy required to shield before the bomb....
solid sandal
Any thoughts?
quasi void
I need some help with this
solid sandal
@quasi void I’d swap talene for Rosa
quasi void
Honestly she never works out, she always dies or i clear before she ults
solid sandal
I just did that level with the exact same set up except with Shemira instead of Belinda
quasi void
I dont get how people can use rosaline, she pops like a balloon..
solid sandal
@quasi void two ults on your carry is unstoppable though
It all depends if Sylv attacks Rosa or Rowan
quasi void
Well rosa ofc because shes only L and rowan is M
quasi void
It all depends if Sylv attacks Rosa or Rowan
@solid sandal i would have to use rowan with 3 gear pieces for her to target rosaline
plush dawn
I am once again asking for your help
solid sandal
@quasi void I’m just saying I beat it using either Rosa or Fawkes instead of talene
quasi void
I can try but neither of those options seem to work for me, i cant stall enough for belinda ult
solid sandal
Put Lucius in where talene is in your SS put Fawkes in where Lucius was and it should work.
Because Sylv is just gonna 1 shot Rosa
quasi void
No good fawkes gets oneshot, i tried that one. I might have figured out how to stall enough for belinda to clear 3 units on top so its all down to rng now
solid sandal
@quasi void good I’m glad lol. Sorry I couldn’t be more help. I just figured I’d offer my advice because I was just there. Shemira is also more tanky or at least heals more then Belinda so maybe that’s why it worked for me.
quasi void
@solid sandal Yeah i ended up beating it with rosaline and numisu lol
stuck trellis
stoic sun
stuck trellis
@vagrant rain try nara middle
(check screenshot above)
@stoic sun who is tasi banishing?
stoic sun
She dies too fast to banish anyone
stuck trellis
oh silvina jumps on her?
take off rowan gear, make silvin ajump on him
stoic sun
Yeah
stuck trellis
he should be fine with just boots and weap
stoic sun
now rowan dies instantly
stuck trellis
even with grace?
stoic sun
he cant ult in time anyway
stuck trellis
u just need him to tank, not ult
so who does tasi banish
vagrant rain
@stuck trellis same result :/
stuck trellis
@stoic sun ok this is just a guess, but try this
tasi
talene
eironn
rowan
daimon
stuck trellis
eiornn insta dies but the cc from tasi banish and his pull should stall fera long enough for daimon to ult at least once
coarse cradle
@stoic sun what other heroes do u have?
stuck trellis
@vagrant rain even with the comp in the screenshot?
might just have to rng it hard since u dont have eironn 30 :/
or maybe tis because your nara is L
coarse cradle
How about daimon behind brutus and Nara across from Silvina @stoic sun you can also try swapping in saf and lyca to improve survivability
deft basin
They destroy me almost instantly. Any idea?
stoic sun
i last about 18 seconds with rowan dying almost instantly @coarse cradle
coarse cradle
Hmm improvement I guess?
stoic sun
it is longer
rigid birch
you can always merc a 30 si eironn and do
Lyca
->>Brutus
Eironn
->>Rowan
Safiya
stoic sun
used my merc of the week already
rigid birch
really sorry i cant seem to find a good formation
stoic sun
no problem
dry blaze
Any idea? I get rekt and heals are nuts
rigid birch
who does your tasi banish?
dry blaze
Dreaf
solid sandal
Any thoughts?
sly cobalt
Help please?
fickle loom
why are your L+ heroes mini
solid sandal
Any advice? Shem and Lucius are getting rocked hard
dusky lichen
Any ideas? I’m about to get a ASC Belinda in like an hour any ideas how to get this?
indigo iron
help
spare girder
Still searching for help
timber zephyr
Need help to clear this nightmare
Also why the SS of my rooster says "Explicit image failed to be delivered to recipient" - _-
spare girder
Tasi
Rowan
Fera
Lyca
Nara
Wud be something I'd try or:
Nemora
Rowan
Lyca
Fawkes
Tasi
Haven't gotten that far in campaign tho' @timber zephyr
ember veldt
I'm new to the game and have a few questions. Is my current team of twins ,Brutus, mirael, nemora, rowan the best one I can make atm, and should I continue to focus leveling mirael? Currently stuck on 6-16
pale kettle
Impossible??
I'm new to the game and have a few questions. Is my current team of twins ,Brutus, mirael, nemora, rowan the best one I can make atm, and should I continue to focus leveling mirael? Currently stuck on 6-16
@ember veldt F2P?
pale kettle
so, the best you can do is level all your e+ maximum, so in future your max level will be higher
ember veldt
So I should level my non carries atm
pale kettle
yup
and then put the ones that are not the e+ on the cristal
and the team you should use like for base is:
Rowan Shemira Twins Grezhul Gwen
and, if you dont have a full 5 e+ put shemira the highest level you can
need some help
ember veldt
Is it already worth to stop using mirael
pale kettle
what ch you in?
ember veldt
6-16
pale kettle
hum
i would
she can carry you a little bit more but its better focus on the one that can be ascended
can someone help?
jolly stump
i dont think flora would do much in your team rn so its best to take her off and put in someone else like maybe brutus to tank saveas
at elite+, it takes too long for her to make significant impact in your team and it would only put you at an disadvantage from 4v5
spare girder
I'm new to the game and have a few questions. Is my current team of twins ,Brutus, mirael, nemora, rowan the best one I can make atm, and should I continue to focus leveling mirael? Currently stuck on 6-16
@ember veldt
From what I can see yeah... And leveling Mirael for now is good however ask in #classic-questions for the beginner guide it'll help you most.
@pale kettle
Nemora
Lucius
Rowan
Eironn
Fawkes/Tasi
mystic rain
Having some trouble getting past this stage with this team
coarse cradle
@ember veldt you should only lvl5 heroes at a time. Mirael can carry you until lvl160
@mystic rain 30-2
mystic rain
@coarse cradle thanks
stuck trellis
@spare girder
probably very retry heavy considering it has brutus skreg and fera
good luck
dusky lichen
Jesus Christ this is hard. That athalia is a monster. Any ideas on what I can do?
I have nothing that can survive one hit from that athalia
If ANYONE has any idea what I can do please ping me with a solution
frosty flame
Any help would be appreciated 🙂 I've tried so many things and nothing is working thank you 🙂
fading egret
worthy island
Need some help with 29-60
stuck trellis
@worthy island ur fine with merc right
worthy island
wdym
stuck trellis
ur okay with using a merc
nk some just wanna save them
stuck trellis
give me a sec ill try to find one without 3/3 skriath merc
since thats kinda hard to get
@worthy island
worthy island
thanks! i'm gonna try spamming that for a bit
@stuck trellis it worked! thanks a lot man
stuck trellis
congrats on 30! @worthy island 
copper bone
I need help guys
thorn stag
untold ginkgo
Any way do I put Izold with +30 and 3/9 furniture in LC or nah?
onyx pollen
I already tried and did not merge that pitiful is giant and the ax ends me with rosaline
versed otter
What hero’s would be good with my shemira this is my team
stoic sun
What's gonna be my best team for PvE?
solid sandal
Any suggestions? I’m stuck like chuck
mystic rain
@coarse cradle for some reason your lineup doesn’t work at all for me
coarse cradle
@mystic rain just 
coarse cradle
I mean if u are gonna merc might as well merc a daimon
mystic rain
Ain’t got no A diamon friends 
I already have a M+20 daimon though
coarse cradle
And like all tasi stages it’s rng. As I bash my head against a tasi multi
flat pebble
Can someone help me with this??
brave wagon
what's stopping you from winning?
flat pebble
Too much dmg
flat pebble
Izold doesnt live long enough for his furniture to make a difference
brave wagon
so you've gotta disrupt their assassin (tasi) and tank their flank (gorvo)
flat pebble
Whit the original lineup i used, i killed gorvo and nemora, but izold couldn't handle ulmus and tasi
brave wagon
you've gotta stop that tasi
otherwise even if you get it down to 1v5 it's not really close to winning
flat pebble
Merc is not really helping me, do u know anyone with ezio? I just need it for misty valley
proud edge
Any ideas?
subtle yoke
Tasi and rosa, instead of Lyca and Talene
Also put the tidus levels on lucius, i believe he will be more usefull for you
full finch
can I get help creating 3 teams for champions tournament? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/758273326820360212/20200923_122654.jpg
distant mango
Help
golden crown
Any tips
ember bane
@brave wagon need lineup for 31-4 plz
Sorry I am not able to post image
Ty
pale kettle
@distant mango try
Ferael
》Rowan
Eirron
》Brutus
Safiya
brave wagon
@ember bane do you have izold?
distant mango
@pale kettle everyone just insta dies
pale kettle
Ye you are way underlevelled, I cleared it with level 270 or somethjng😅
brave wagon
@sage plaza what artifacts did you use for 31-24? I can't even get close to beating 31-24-1 even with your exact comp
brave oriole
@distant mango you have to pull arden. and honestly, eironn team works bad without lyca
sage plaza
@brave wagon i honestly forgot can u send an ss for the stage. I havent ssed since 20 i think
brave oriole
put Rosa and Lucius back
onyx pollen
The problem its... Athatlia
pale kettle
Talene Vs athalia
brave wagon
put rosa vs athalia
onyx pollen
I wanna die
eternal totem
Please
brave wagon
@eternal totem don't use fera and saf
sage plaza
@brave wagon ah yes i remember this one. your goal is just for daimon to survive. so many stallers. all the meatshields had chalice then daimon had call and fera for earlier fear but he can do with eye
brave oriole
@onyx pollen don't you have a poor safiya to replace talene?
eternal totem
I was trying shit cause I couldn't beat iy
onyx pollen
Élite
brave oriole
should work
pale kettle
@eternal totem
Tasi
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
Fera
brave wagon
oh they ALL had chalice?
onyx pollen
🥺🥺🥺
brave wagon
and would you recommend eye or call for fera?
brave oriole
@eternal totem gwyn is your best chance
sage plaza
@brave wagon not all, brutus and nara did. I think. if arthur was infront of fera i dont remember if its drape or chalice. whichever makes him die slower. then daimon call fera call/eye.
brave oriole
I would try
fawk
rowan
gwyn
lyca
rosa
eternal totem
@brave oriole I don't have Arthur 😬
@pale kettle thanks man is working better than using tasi front lol
brave wagon
my daimon gets bursted down before arthur though for some reason
onyx pollen
brave oriole
@eternal totem Arthur it's more for late game
onyx pollen
Like this?
brave oriole
@onyx pollen nah, that's pretty bad
try
Lucius call
rosa
talene
shemira
rowan
sage plaza
@brave wagon try both. call make fera fear a lot earlier but he fears with eye he gets to fear more if he survives. do u have gear on brutus? dont put gear on brutus so silvana will jump to him
onyx pollen
Ok
sage plaza
this is an L+ brutus with no gear. I think ur daimon is being jumped for being lowest def
brave wagon
yeah thanks call instead of eye and no gear on brutus helped a lot
time to big RNG crunch the level down
sage plaza
yeah. thank god i didnt ascend him
eternal totem
@brave oriole I'll try later but I'm almost sure rosa will follow rowan even if I took out gear
sage plaza
it's always down to daimon surviving and fera delaying the right people
other 3 are just meatshields like arthur, brutus then nara is just stopping someone that will burst or cc you
31-20 was a lot harder because of satrana
brave wagon
@sage plaza did you have to kill the ezizh really early on?
eternal totem
Your a mad man @brave oriole
sage plaza
@brave wagon yes. its rng who daimon gets low. or steals from so 2 ults should kill 1 one them or 2 and hope it's ezizh xd
brave wagon
after two ults the enemy ezizh is just ~60% hp for me lol xD
@onyx pollen I don't see you
jk jk
no put rowan in front
sage plaza
@brave wagon oof.
brave wagon
my nara is just getting insta-yeeted by the fera
should I use grace to try to improve dodge, or is that gonna be worse?
onyx pollen
Anyone love me
brave wagon
give him the best lb gear you got and chuck him in front of saveas
@onyx pollen for you btw
onyx pollen
Lol
sage plaza
@brave wagon try putting call. it makes her pull faster. putting grace is stupid because str have low dodge.
brave wagon
not lol actually do it
sage plaza
is ur nara +10 ascended?
brave wagon
@sage plaza wouldn't that be a triple call then? yeah and 3/3 too
onyx pollen
I guees I have alone in this again... Tomorrow ask again... 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
sage plaza
i dont even have 3/3 . very bad for daimon but u can put eye on fera instead
onyx pollen
Why virindra ingonre me? 😩 😩 😩
brave wagon
ok will try
coz you're not listening to other people
if you're gonna just ignore advice then people won't want to help you
sage plaza
@onyx pollen idk u. stranger danger
sage plaza
see just rng.
brave wagon
oh it's coz he's always missing ezizh that he doesn't die
in that case should I put eye on nara for more cc?
ember bane
@brave wagon nope I don't have Izold
quaint kiln
Help pls
brave wagon
@ember bane are you able to merc one? Gotta be +30 3/3 at least though
ember bane
Yes I can
sage plaza
@brave wagon u can try. but str dont crit a lot xd ur just pushing the rng u need higher
brave wagon
yeah merc one and run izold carry first comp (I remember it was something like lyca tasi nem izold ... idk ezizh? and daimon thoran brutus rowan nara for the second one.
Not it that order but those heroes. Those heroes have worked in many different formations
ember bane
Ok thx I will give few tries
brave wagon
@sage plaza oh I'll avoid that then
brave wagon
or rosa in front of shem if shem is getting melted too quickly
quaint kiln
I was not very lucky with him.only e+ for now
sleek heart
This level is too damn hard
onyx pollen
If you have nora.. Put in the middle... She is vs farael
@sleek heart i remember
But quit brutus...
sleek heart
he got me to 21-10 man, I know he sucks, but he did buy me the time I needed to wombo-combo
but this team setup I never faced before, and its CRAZY op
onyx pollen
I remember win like this.
Shemira
Talene /brutus
Rowan
Rosaline
Lyca/eiron / ezio
sleek heart
ill try tomorrow, took me over 200 attempts to reach ch 21 tonight
lucid light
Hey you guys reckon i could win with this team? Sry im newb
onyx pollen
@lucid light bro...you need heores with 4 enchants.....
Buy you can try like this
Athalia
Brutus
Nemora
Estrilda
Belinda
maiden cliff
Can anyone help me with my PVP lineup? All of a sudden I've started slipping down the rankings 😟
lucid light
:< doest work smh this is depressing
maiden cliff
Thanks @pale kettle I'll have a go 🙂
full finch
@pale kettle is it really good idea to have call on tasi and eironn? wouldn't eye on eironn be better? and what about grace on lyca to further boost her dodge?
pale kettle
Struggling :(
pearl scarab
Any chance to beat this stage atm? Brutus isn't part it my standard lineup, but I guess I need to stall a bit. Can't post a Screenshot of my heros, since it apparently contains explicit content 🙄
brave oriole
@pearl scarab you should keep eironn Frontline vs seirus, and maybe replace tasi with ferael. my personal advice, keep Lucius as tank and high lvl
worldly wharf
I think I put my highest attack rating hero versus athalia since after she dives tasi banishes and it kinda disturbs athalia
full finch
@pearl scarab just edit the picture, draw a random line in there, always works
brave oriole
best tank is Lucius with call for him
pale kettle
23-48 can someone help me? Iam stuck
torn valve
All Ideas for this stage is appreciated, i just can't stop tasi from banishing my daimon
brave wagon
@torn valve do you have nara?
torn valve
Yes, only at L tho
brave wagon
or nem, or athalia?
torn valve
Only nara is use able 
brave wagon
I'd try nem/nara/athalia on arden, put daimon middle centre and thoran front row
lyca where thoran current is
torn valve
Oh okay thanks, what about brutus, do i put him where lyca is
brave wagon
no keep brutus where he is
torn valve
No evironn?
brave wagon
yeah no eiron. Your comp doesn't really support him
You're going for more of a daimon + tank + stall than eiron saf
torn valve
Sick!
brave oriole
just pull arden with eironn, win
brave wagon
@pale kettle try removing 2 tanks
brave oriole
and put in rowan
torn valve
Tree and nemora is so annoying
brave wagon
depends whether he has good gear for eiron or not though
his team doesn't synergise well with eiron, and since he has daimon might as well go daimon
pale kettle
Wow first try thanks
torn valve
Nara dies instantly and tasi whoop daimon, yikes that's the most formidable comp I've faced so far
torn valve
I don't have it on this acc, i was thinking of building ezizh
brave wagon
you basically only need 1 copy of athalia
other thing you could do is just spam retries a bunch of times
torn valve
I can merc one if she's going to be useful
brave oriole
nah, not worth you can pass it
brave wagon
she would be but you might need it
brave wagon
daimon front row?
brave oriole
you will pull insta and freeze them 😊
torn valve
I'll try, thanks
brave wagon
surely swap rowan with daimon
torn valve
Arden goes whoosh and followed up by tasis ult, geez
brave oriole
keep trying
he won't charge always his energy that fast
it's enough for eironn to dodge and he will ultimate first
brave wagon
daimon is kinda squishy, and lyca doesn't really need the healing
brave oriole
other option is eiron front of. daimon
brave wagon
rowan can also tank tree and arden for longer
brave oriole
try eironn front of daimon, if not works. put him. up on lyca. place
torn valve
Okay
pulsar geyser
just help me pass this shit
brave oriole
rampage 😊
pulsar geyser
what should i use?
brave oriole
@pulsar geyser my. suggestion, is to get a good rowan merc for labs
torn valve
Wait nvm, i thought it was campaign
pulsar geyser
nope
brave oriole
@pulsar geyser
try full. lb team.
fawk
Lucius
rowan
rosa
Belinda
torn valve
Ch22 is 
pulsar geyser
ive done it somehow , ty
brave oriole
@placid mountain nara or athalia on mehira
hidden kraken
Cen i get some help? I dont seem to find the right lineup for this lvl
brave oriole
@hidden kraken tried eironn front with dura's call? I wonder if he's able to pull ferael and safiya.
like
tasi
lyca grace
rowan
eironn
safiya
hidden kraken
Lemme try but i think skreg gonna cockblock
He can pull them i will try this than thanks
Its not gonna work the upper 2 turns into a rape squad and kills off everyone
brave oriole
@hidden kraken to you have a daimon? to replace safiya?
hidden kraken
Sadly no am tryin with fareal rn
hidden kraken
Alweys the upper 2 just kills off everyone
placid mountain
@brave oriole what else do I need besides Nara/Athalia, it seems like i don't have the damage output
brave oriole
@placid mountain merc one maybe
narrow crypt
candid roost
@south venture belinda lucius fawkes shemira rosaline
zenith violet
Does anyone have a screen of 30-26 clear?
candid roost
I pass it with tasi rowan lyca safiya eironn
zenith violet
In that order?
candid roost
surreal chasm
@narrow crypt change gorvo to nara. 1brutus 2rowan 3nara 4lucius 5 belinda hehe
south venture
@candid roost Sadly not working for me :/
candid roost
@south venture u need to have rosaline on shemira and not lucius
south venture
@south venture u need to have rosaline on shemira and not lucius
@candid roost How can I control that?
candid roost
rosaline 'll follow the hero with the most power in your team, you just need to take off some item on lucius or level up shemira so that she got more power than lucius
south venture
Ok got it, will take same time, because the difference is huge, but thanks for your help!
candid roost
no problem and good luck :x
south venture
Thank you 🙂
brave oriole
@south venture your shemira should be lvl 140 at all, and others 100+
south venture
@south venture your shemira should be lvl 140 at all, and others 100+
@brave oriole Alright, I will focus on Shemira then, thanks
candid roost
shemira the GOAT from chap 1 to 23
summer hollow
I get really close with this but still can't beat it. Any suggestions?
brave oriole
@summer hollow maybe Lucius back of lyca instead of fawk?
summer hollow
Lucius is L+ and dies very fast
brave oriole
not if Backline and with dura's call, all you need is the shield
brave oriole
then, @candid roost, try classical,
Lucius dura's call
rosa
rowan
shem
faekn
Lucius back of Rosa would. make him pop the shield pretty fast
candid roost
It was for @summer hollow but thanks 😂
summer hollow
@brave oriole yes I tried that he doesn't pop or he pops after lyca and Rowan are dead
brave oriole
with dura's call?
summer hollow
@brave oriole yes
@candid roost but I'm not using shemira lol haha maybe on Belinda I'll try
south venture
@brave oriole I reseted Saveas to level up shemira. Should I level Saveas to 100+ again, after I leveled up shemira or should I focus on someone else, like Fawkes?
brave oriole
@candid roost well, shemira is not that good, go for wilders with safiya or ferael
candid roost
@brave oriole I was just helping @summer hollow I already got the team to beat my level
wheat saffron
@zenith violet
south venture
I'm really not sure which lineup I should go for.
YouTube Guides say to focus on 3 and then build around that and the best factions are Wilders and Lightbringers.
I haven't figured out yet how to build a good comp, I could reset all of my current leveled up ones to build a new one.
Can someone suggest me a good lineup with my current hereos?
summer hollow
@candid roost tried but that team died before doing any damage at all :(
brave oriole
@south venture Lucius shemira front line, Backline rosaline to follow shemira, middle rowan, get one...., and the last can be fawk athalia arden etc by situation
and always keep shemira overlvled, like now push her to 140 then Lucius etc
candid roost
exactly like @brave oriole said but you'll have to pray for rowan
hard hemlock
candid roost
shemira rowan rosaline tasi lucius with rosa on shemira
brave oriole
@hard hemlock lvl shemira to 200 first