Need a hint for this stage
#lineup-help
tidal spear
tidal spear
Yeah but instant death cuz of silv
burnt glade
sleek heart
@pale kettle fawkes dies too quick
tidal spear
Prob not. Saf is only m+ and +20.
sleek heart
@pale kettle anyone on the bottom dies too quick to estrilda charge
upbeat fossil
@pale kettle that's interesting, i always had this impression that i have to pick 1 coz not enough cc-heavy heroes to go around (was thinking of 3 multi-fights), but those lineups give me a better idea of what's possible (if Eironn-Skriath doesn't work then i can steal some of their heroes to lend to Daimon/Izold). thanks!
shy birch
thanks 🙂 also any account advice would be cool 
rapid relic
This stage is insane any tips to pass it
vital kernel
@rapid relic have you tried this
Lyca
Lucius
Eironn/shemira
Rowan
Tasi
hybrid hollow
Can't do it, this is where I fall
@fringe idol
Shem/rowan
rose
Shem/rowan
brutus
Lyca/tasi(better tasi if she banishes isabella or mirael)
fringe idol
hmm
hybrid hollow
Must work
warm girder
Hello guys any ideas ?
Whole team gets blown up really fast tbh..
I soon have enough violet essence to level up Shemira again and soon enough fodder to make make Fawkes Ascended..
pure linden
Does anyone have any tips for what would be a good pvp team for arena and 3 teams for the legends challenger arena? I usually hover around 1500 for arena and want to try to push higher but I don't have a great idea on what compositions work well for pvp.
summer hollow
@fringe idol try Lyca in the front row and shemira in the back to give her more time
lucid falcon
Pls help @wheat saffron lol
fringe idol
@summer hollow doesn't work either, they just die too quick
lucid falcon
Or anyone that has big brain pls assist
wheat saffron
Try with Belinda instead of Lucius, maybe even Rosa instead of Cecilia, your ideal lineup would be Saurus Grezhul Twins Warek Ezizh but well.. 
@lucid falcon
lucid falcon
I've got saurus as a mercenary? @wheat saffron that good enough
wheat saffron
Yup. You can do Saurus Rosa Twins Rowan Ezizh, call on Twins and Ezizh, I don’t see a Grez in your box, if you have a copy of Grez and the merc that you have is +30, then drop Rowan, if the merc isn’t +30 then drop Rosa, takes a bit of rng so scores can vary quite a lot in scores @lucid falcon
wheat saffron
Grezhul, can try Warek aswell, but your placement is off, Saurus Rosa front for the attack rating share from Twins ability, Rowan mid so he heals everyone, Twins Ezizh on the sides @lucid falcon
wheat saffron
Yupp, also wrong MiKE 
@lucid falcon
lucid falcon
LOL
fringe idol
meh, so frustrating when you are stuck in a stage...
summer hollow
Probably just leveling the rest a bit more it's gonna get you unstuck fast
fringe idol
they are at max
forest dirge
Anyone have KT 423 that's not +30 cheese? It's proving to be a pita
fringe idol
Maybe swap duras around? anyone has a suggestion?
grim vortex
I need help.
faint current
@fringe idol Max for L+ is 160 not 140 though
fringe idol
They are all L other than shemira
faint current
If those guys are at L and not L+ then you were not following beginner guides on how to ascend and misspent fodder
fringe idol
no, I just never got another Lyca, Rosalina, Rowan or Brutus
faint current
Which is why all the guides say not to bring anyone to L until you can bring them to L+
To prevent you from ending up in the situation you’re in
fringe idol
Where's the logic behind that. It's not that I used these 4 in any other heroes
faint current
You could have an L+ 160 Arden rooting 3 enemy heroes
And steamroll many stages
(141 Arden L+ could do that too) but you used the fodder for L Lyca stuck at 140. That’s why
fringe idol
Technically have a mythic Nemora lying around, would they help?
faint current
It could, the level cap on Mythic Nemora is much higher and she might have her signature item unlocked.
fringe idol
I have it unlocked
faint current
If that Brutus is getting murdered you could try putting Nemora there she might be way tankier
faint current
I’m not sure to be honest. I don’t pay attention to that. I level up carry until maxed and then level the others.
Someone in #classic-questions will surely know
fringe idol
Alrighty, 161 Shemira, 160 Nemora, 140 Rosalina, 140 Rowan and 140 Lyca did the trick
plush dawn
Help please
swift crescent
I'm so done... Any advice? Tried almost everything
@plush dawn maybe lucius, rowan; tasi, lyca, eironn? So he'll pull ferael
If not, change lucius for safiya and put rowan and tasi in front, safiya lyca an eironn in the back
You have 3 powerful carrys, and the best support +30. You should work around that
steady imp
Also Need help. Didnt Break through this Stage. Hmm
glad flax
I think I should be putting Rowan into my team right?
summer hollow
@glad flax yes rowan is great you just need luck with the pulls
hallow kettle
wuts a merc that can help me bust through this. ferael scares me so much, since he pretty much kills my ability to ult singlehandledly, and i kinda don't like grezhul stealing my stats. i hear that... a merc of talene can really carry through tough stages in this sorta early-midgame sorta thing?
rough onyx
some ideas guys? stuck since forever there
deep wren
Should I swap someone for my L talene
inland siren
craggy talon
Suggestions on a better team comp for challenger tournament
pale kettle
Help pls
manic hinge
can someone help me here aldjaksjsk
Athalia pretty much one ult annihilated my team XD tried a few different setups a few different times but nothing seemed to have worked
delicate osprey
Lightbearers Tower 235. I can still request a mercenary.
stuck trellis
@pale kettle u don't need 5 wilders, just 4 + someone else
proud edge
@stuck trellis any ideas? I have an open crystal slot if need be
pale kettle
@stuck trellis the who should I use?
stuck trellis
@proud edge try
saf
tidus
brutus
numisu
skregg
@pale kettle just try things out yourself
should be super easy as long as u put in an op support or dps
proud edge
@stuck trellis ends with tidus v a water and two nara. Gets them low but can’t quite get there
stuck trellis
skreg merc destroys this stage iirc
I merced it so idk how to help u with just those units 
pearl zinc
@magic herald do you have any outlines for standard Izold comps you've used in solos vs multis? The one i saw on reddit was Lorsan Izold Ferael Lyca Nara. I also saw one from Sushii with mehira?
magic herald
@pearl zinc I've not done much with mehira, but if you want to use some heroes that are seldom used elsewhere, fawkes, oden, hendrix, cecilia, skreg... there are lots of good options to get creative with
Just gotta find ways to relieve damage pressure
pearl zinc
@magic herald the goal is just izold ults, and then while ulted he kills someone?
magic herald
Any enemy hero or pet dies, yeah
devout idol
Best Wrizz/Soren team ?
magic herald
heroes like rosa need a couple stacks to tank sometimes
lone grail
Relics to put on them I’m tired of this level 😪
fickle loom
@lone grail have you tried eironn pull on safiya, i don't think eironn stops numisu from pulling out totems fully anyway (unless you get a super fast ult), so it's more important to get the safiya out of the way imo.
@pale kettle he did, lol. look below, 1st slot is a merc.
stoic sun
bronze nova
Need help. I have no problem with boss stages, it's always the in between stages that suck
fickle loom
drag numisu over, let lyca take saveas spear @bronze nova
fickle loom
@bronze nova err by drag i just meant eironn drag, but i guess nara works too lol. at least 29-60 doesn't have a mehira so you might be fine without a merc. xD
bronze nova
I'm already shitting the bed with 29-60 I'll post here again if I can't get it to work after a bit
This seems to work the best, what would you recommend?
slender ferry
Do I have to use a merc of this ?
bronze nova
I just finished 29-54, merc Nara @slender ferry
fickle loom
rowan could be middle backline because he generally takes athalia alright, it's usually ok if he dies as long as it's not immediate (which shouldn't happen), and that means he's giving energy to cornered eironn. also, between safiya and numisu, i would use eironn on safiya. for this one though, i needed eironn on ezizh and a very lucky tasi sleep timing to shut ezizh down completely.
unfortunately not a safiya clear, but something like that?
slender ferry
bronze nova
My ferael isn't the best but I'll definitely try it
slender ferry
Don’t want to merc Nara bc I need a feral merc for 60 can’t use any non ascended hero bc of power level
fickle loom
@slender ferry nara doesn't have to be super high if you time it right with eironn beside her to finish the rest of a disrupt chain. very low athalia works too, but i don't see you with one either ;; maybe it's hidden below? xD
slender ferry
@fickle loom i have a l+ Nara I can’t use her bc of power cap I can only use ascended tier hero’s so I’m saving my merc for feral for 29-60
fickle loom
i mean, if you can't use a merc and you can't push levels, the only thing left is to try out your own remaining heroes and see what works, lol. or just try your strongest comp 500+ times with a simulator, eventually it'll probably work.
empty horizon
Who should I put in my PVE team?
slender ferry
That’s what I’ve been doing on my phone Manual retries all yesterday :/
fickle loom
could add nacho as a disruptor but the problem is her run to enemy takes too long cause she has to move; could add ferael as a cc but he can be dodged. idk, plenty of random shit to still do, and then finally you just get that simulator running if nothing works lul
bronze nova
Man I've already used both my merc usages for this week so I'll probably need to wait another week to beat chapter 29 
fickle loom
i would have stopped you but you finished that stage before i could type 
bronze nova
rip my patience
sacred spear
Help with lineup pls. Im stuck 😅
trim bane
fickle loom
@trim bane get your wu kong to lv81/100 first before you level anyone else more. prepare a saveas or mirael (either is fine) as your next carry as soon as you can, if you can get them to E+ before wu kong reaches 100 then you can stop leveling wu kong and level them instead.
narrow lark
Can anyone help? Can usually get it down to Vidan and Shimira every 5 or so tries, but he just runs out the clock and I dont know what to do against him
hybrid hollow
Can anyone help? Can usually get it down to Vidan and Shimira every 5 or so tries, but he just runs out the clock and I dont know what to do against him
@narrow lark vedan/shemira*
Daimon
shem
Gwyneth
rowan
Lyca
Also try using belinda instead of daimon
narrow lark
Okay I'll try that thanks 👍
hybrid hollow
On who does silvina go tho?
narrow lark
What do you mean? And the lineup ended up winning with Belinda, much appreciated!
little root
Should i use saf instead of ferael/lyca?
hybrid hollow
Should i use saf instead of ferael/lyca?
@little root instead of ferael maybe but itll be almost same lineup
little root
Okay thanks
cloud fossil
f*ck this floor
fickle loom
shemira is usually a better "tank" than grezhul even with both at A lol, if i'm using grezhul i usually need to put him backline so he has enough time to get ult off. would never use L+ grez over A shem
wheat saffron
@little root Farael is stronger defensively
cloud fossil
Not in this case,needs Grezhul to give team magic reduction
Shemira actually performs worst in this floor
fickle loom
throw him into backline and let ferael front then, lol
compact heart
Help 23-34
brave oriole
@compact heart seems easy, just wrong heroes lvled
get shem and Lucius 240,and the 3th maybe rowan
then you can easy win With shem. Lucius front, and Btw Lucius needs call mostly, Backline safiya rowan and Rosa or fawk
compact heart
Ok I'll try that
brave oriole
wrong carry 😭
compact heart
Was using shemira from LVL 140 then people told me to switch Safyia once I got her ascended is that wrong?
hybrid hollow
Yes if you dont have a normal team for her
Normal team for her is smth like
Safia/rowan/tasi/eiron/lyca
brave oriole
she's more for wilder team, much later
hybrid hollow
Also can change safia to ferael at this team
cloud fossil
hybrid hollow
And it goes like from 25-th chapter
hybrid hollow
Yeah... shem can carry to 29-th chapter
compact heart
Time to go back to Shem then
hybrid hollow
Rowan/shem/rose and anythig that lives like 4-5 seconds is the best team
brave oriole
Lucius with call Frontline
hybrid hollow
Rowan in 4th position
Itll be very good putting tasi on 5th position for you but im scared she wont live
brave oriole
90% the best team, is shem Lucius, Rosa rowan fawk
hybrid hollow
Fawk and luc will be changed alot tho
brave oriole
there's a very few times when you need to change fawk with some thing else, like safiya here, to tank athalia
hybrid hollow
For tasi/lyca/brutus and maybe else
brave oriole
but for this stage, if im. not wrong, ive won without rowan
something like
fawk
shem
rosa
Lucius
ferael
hybrid hollow
Uh youre using 3x faction bonus
xD i never do idk why but tasi works better for me
brave oriole
deppends of your team, fawk is so good tbh
hybrid hollow
My team resently
brave oriole
late game, tasi works with Wilders, but fawk is still a thing, like, removing a ferael with fawk, it's. much effective than tasi banish
hybrid hollow
He is needed only when you need to remove some1 faster
He usually removes heroes like few seconds faster
brave oriole
and not only, he slow down the attack speed dispel etc
@hybrid hollow have you tried arden instead of. lyca? 😊
hybrid hollow
I never use ardens and so
brave oriole
oh, that's bad news, he's so good 😊
brave oriole
imagine 3 enemies not. doing anyhhing for a few seconds
hybrid hollow
Ik
brave oriole
he is rlly good, he was always my 5th with fawk/athalia
tbh, he's the best fodder 😂
hybrid hollow
Idk he wasnt and wont be a good hero for me
brave oriole
if there's a ra k for fodders, he's #1
hybrid hollow
Im ok without him
compact heart
Still no luck. Am I still doing something wrong?
hybrid hollow
On who doesn silvina go?
brave oriole
@compact heart maybe your artifacts
hybrid hollow
If on rowan then put some1 worser isntead of safia
brave oriole
can't be rowan, he's 240
hybrid hollow
Uh ye forgot
compact heart
Silvina jumps on Safyia
hybrid hollow
Then try changing fawk and safia
brave oriole
@compact heart so, try out this, put ferael instead of fawk for a sec
hybrid hollow
And change
Fawk
shem
Rowan
luc
Safia
Grezul is a worser opponent for shem than niru
+there is another shem that is bad for your shem too
brave oriole
Lucius should be down if fawk team
compact heart
Athalia just destroys my whole team
hybrid hollow
Thats why you need tasi
Uh ye forgot fawkes may not take athalia bcz of she isnt on map when he uses his coffin
compact heart
He uses his coffin on shem
hybrid hollow
Thats pretty bad
He must use it on athalia
And you cant put tasi bcz of silvina...
Verry bad
brave oriole
put ferael middle
fickle loom
@compact heart i know your shemira is higher leveled right now so it's awkward, but this is why around this level shemira just isn't good enough. belinda will have a much higher chance of completing because she actually has a high chance to one shot athalia if you can ult at the right time. safiya kind of does that too, but her ult is so slow that you need PERFECT timing. not sure who i would drop for belinda but i would definitely try her a couple times somewhere.
brave oriole
it's just a hard stage. you can try
shem
rosa
rowan
Lucius
ferael
Belinda will never win vs this gb team
compact heart
Problem with Rosa is she follows Rowan instead bcs of his SI
fickle loom
lmao i slept through ch21 to mid 25 with full LB team without swapping a single thing ever and never getting stuck anywhere, you can definitely win with LB lol
brave oriole
mh that's not rlly bad, spcly for this stage
@compact heart but you can fix this by lowering rowan to 220 for a while
compact heart
Got lucky. Rosa and Rowan started perma stunning everyone
raw wasp
Any ideas how to pass it
civic parrot
I can't beat this level. Any tips?
steady imp
Please help me. Stuck .....:)
earnest mist
What 5 heros can I use for faction tower?
civic parrot
I can't beat this. Any tips?
hazy phoenix
@civic parrot did you already use the char that you get from others ?
civic parrot
@hazy phoenix the merc? Yeah on the level before
pale kettle
urban sentinel
dusky mirage
helpp
deft jacinth
I require advice
dry blaze
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747803336257830963/757171486057431101/Screenshot_20200920-122816_AFK_Arena.jpg , https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747803336257830963/757171485612965918/Screenshot_20200920-122824_AFK_Arena.jpg
what would be best options for arena defence for me?
wheat saffron
I would use Nako Rowan Lyca Eironn Tasi @dry blaze
dry blaze
@wheat saffron i actually set them up till i got answer for arena team and it was exactly one haha
i just wonder positions. Tasi front or na?
Are these correct artis?
wheat saffron
I think Nako would perform better front, and would wreck some ppl that dont know what her kit does, with the interruptions, like ppl using Eironn in front of her and such, I would put Tasi behind Rowan tho, artifacts look good, can also do Call on either Rowan or Eironn, some ppl like call on Eironn for defense so you pull faster, some ppl do Call Rowan for faster ult, and since your Tasi is behind him means she will ult faster aswell.. Just decide whichever you'd like to have more @dry blaze
dry blaze
well i was wondering if call on tasi would be better beacuse she will be backrow so she wont get that much attention and she would not ult maybe that is why i have call on tasi for now. also beacuse call is not yet 1* so cant use on two.
Also i have eye on nako and eironn beacuse i use eironn as campaign carry in ch 18 atm.
wheat saffron
Ok then its pretty solid with only 1 call, Id keep the Call on Tasi
dry blaze
now tasi is behind rowan too 🙂
hollow blade
Can ab help me pls when i go to the legends challenher arena to level up im keep losing can sb give me ideas for formarions pls
dry blaze
@hollow blade you have quite good base for LB Shemira for one formation and wilder formation and mauler formations
lofty herald
One idea ?
dry blaze
Eironn Tasi Lyca Rowan saurus could be one
Rosa, Lucius Fawkes shemira grezhul could be maebe stallish or replace grezhul with talene.
And
Brutus tidus Safiya Oden Isabella could be last one
@hollow blade
lofty herald
I wouls like go to chapter 27
hollow blade
@dry blaze I will try those formations thank you
Oh and could it work a formation very good on campaign if yes which one?
dry blaze
My forms are like these. Ofc i dont know perfect arena teams but i go with gut feeling
@hollow blade
And i think your best bet for campaign would be eironn tasi lyca rowa and shemira/lucius
hollow blade
@dry blaze thank you
dry blaze
@lofty herald you should try wilders and LB formation imo
Like Nemora Tasi Rosa Lucius and Belinda
If not working
Nemora Tasi Shemira Isabella and solise could be one too or instead solise use thoran
@hollow blade i am only one month old player (soon two month) so my knowledge is not that good :p. I just throw ideas what i have seen in my clan discord server and try use those infos for myself and others if i can somehow get in same ideas or if i have speculations or my own experience so far thats all i can do
dry blaze
i mean i am more thinking for faction advantages for that than anything or what could be useful against that team.
lofty herald
Yep
dry blaze
beacuse im somewhat new player i cant really think complex formations haha. I just go with feeling 😄
technically you can put rowan in both comps too if you feel like it especially on first team but 🤷♂️
lofty herald
dry blaze
did it work?
lucid quartz
Hello, I'm still low level, but I got a lot of new charachters and I don't know what to focus on. Please can anyone suggest me a good lineup and which heroes I should level up?
dreamy spade
which team, what to reset? 😦
dreamy spade
😦
mortal flax
probably wanna rnu something like mirael rosa bruts tasi lyca and get your mirael higher ascension
@dreamy spade also get your free wukong
@lucid quartz https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741074275662037022/752618398940397578/cu3p5c2qhhl51.jpg probably wanna use somethig like wukong arden lucius rowan and mirael
strange sparrow
anybody have an ss of lb220 and mauler204?
mortal flax
@strange sparrow
strange sparrow
@mortal flax you're amazing thank you!
mortal flax
ez
north tree
???
mortal flax
okay I am no gwyn expert but did you try rosa instead o eironn and lyca to catch athalia and for haste buff instead o talene?
north tree
Done dont work
tacit vine
Hey I just started 2-3 days ago, was wondering what my general team comp should look rn
mortal flax
@tacit vine yo read that? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741074275662037022/752618398940397578/cu3p5c2qhhl51.jpg generally you wanna go with legendary heroes like mirael and saveas from 101 until 160
bright arrow
@tacit vine Lyka, Tasi, Eiron, Rowan and Safia/Ferael u must got from start for late game
It's better way for faster progress
tacit vine
There's a good chance i can pull the others later on right?
bright arrow
True, after u got 1st ascended hero, u can got one garant champion per month, also use wishlist
tacit vine
Then is ezio worth farming for or is he just bait
mortal flax
ezio is a great idea to farm
but its probably too late if you don't have a lot saved
tacit vine
I don't know if i have time to get him though
bright arrow
When u have 0 champions?
mortal flax
yes he is still a great idea because he is limited
but as I said its probably too late for a new player
bright arrow
He can't get 200k lab coins at start game
mortal flax
@tacit vine show us your ressources
mortal flax
yeah you are not gonna make it anymore
first row of your heroes + saveas can work out pretty great early just overlevel saveas
tacit vine
ah that's a shame
bright arrow
Anyway, without stars it was bad idea
tacit vine
Ezio or Lyca in the comp?
bright arrow
Lyca
mortal flax
try both but lyca haste buff is nice
tacit vine
Wukong and Lucius frontline I'm assuming
signal lintel
Can someone help with this?
prime tulip
Stuck here, tried with Nara in front of Tasi too but seems to be no way :s
Already spammed like hell and this Tasi is just... Yes I have him M now, i'm just missing a bit of fodder to bring him A (+19 SI)
missing 47 golden emblems then (35 if i take the 12 from the fall event chest)
Guess i'll just wait that and the last GB E+ fodder to get him A cause I've already been tryharding a lot...
neon zenith
what hero merc would be best here
prime tulip
He's not +30 yet so I don't know
bright arrow
My was too
prime tulip
I'll take a look, thanks
stone crow
bright arrow
Ferael
stone crow
Where?
bright arrow
U need Ferael))
stone crow
I have him, where should I put him?
bright arrow
Try to Lucius, Rowan, Belinda, Brutus, Ferael
stone crow
Ok
bright arrow
Or use Nemora for charm Arden
stone crow
Farael what position? Just as u said?
bright arrow
Try to Lucius, Rowan, Belinda, Brutus, Ferael
@bright arrow
civic parrot
Any help?
slow sleet
I need to beat this lvl but I can what do I need to do
steady imp
Please any tips ? Stuck a while
bright arrow
@steady imp how about Rosaline and Belinda?
steady imp
@bright arrow i tried various combis with this Setup. No luck
steady imp
Its close. Tried 20 times. But nemora shield protect them hardcore
Puhhhh and its not a Boss fight. Really Hard at this Stage
bright arrow
Good random help u))
steady imp
I realy Need eironn.
pearl scarab
Hey, would appreciate any input to be able to beat this stage
bright arrow
Brutus, Shemira, Fawkess, Rowan, Rosalina/Ferael
Or u can change Brutus on Fereal
Shemira Blade, Rosaline Call, Rowan Call
If use Ferael - Eye for him
pearl scarab
Thanks a lot! I'll give it a try
bright arrow
Good luck)
dusky mirage
any tips?
stoic sun
bright arrow
@dusky mirage 29-5)
@stoic sun Don't use Shemira, if u already have Daemon... Use Lucius or Nara vs Arden
stoic sun
Even though she's 40 levels higher?
bright arrow
Anyway u need to controll arden and got heal
stoic sun
Oh I got real close with Athalia
signal lintel
Can someone please help with this? What artifacts? and positioning?
brave oriole
@signal lintel mostly call, on Brutus skreg skriath, and safiya maybe eye with Khasos. put Khasos down and safiya middle
sturdy kiln
Help pls I need my alt to catch up with my main
snow smelt
@sturdy kiln try rotating lyca eironn and rowan 1 clockwise
sturdy kiln
Ok I try
snow smelt
basically
tasi
eironn
rowan
lyca
safiya
honestly tho just try shuffling things around a bunch of different comps work
snow smelt
yeah that comp has a lot of pseudo-tanks so a bunch of people work in frontlines and backlines. whatever hero is giving you the most trouble put eironn in front of it, tho i think eironn front top is best
sturdy kiln
Dang estrilda is sooo annoying
signal lintel
@brave oriole will try that out, thanks
sturdy kiln
Thanks @snow smelt and @hollow hatch
snow smelt
yessir nice job
fallow osprey
eager kiln
pale kettle
Im stuck on this stage is there any lineup changes i can make to complete chp 15 its the last fight
void flower
thoran SI 30?
the one above from Proof was close after 10ish trys, i just try more
cleared, thanks
zinc viper
any suggestion please ? my team dies way too quickly
silent rover
only pain
empty pulsar
@pale kettle get rid of brutus, put shem front, run rosa. Stop making so many M heroes.
@silent rover
leaden snow
nara's there to teach mehira who the real femdom master is
zinc viper
any advice please ?
zinc viper
safiya cannot tank those hits tho
onyx pollen
Athatlia dont make nothing with tasi
zinc viper
alright I'll give it a go , they heal too quick
I used mehira and safyia got through , thanks
onyx pollen
Safiya
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Shamira....
silent rover
@pale kettle @empty pulsar what baffles me the most is how im lv.299 & 43 tree,much more than u 2 are, yet i cant get it done 
hybrid hollow
Tasi
luc
Rowan/rose
shem/rose(better rose)
Shem/rose/rowan
empty pulsar
@silent rover lots of retries, but I needed 291 for power cap.
@onyx pollen no need to double post.
Tasi/fawkes
Shem
Rowan
Lucius
Rosa
Stop making so many M/M+ and L heroes, you're wasting a lot of fodder.
silent rover
yare yare
onyx pollen
Thanks
empty pulsar
@hybrid hollow run tasi instead of lyca
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glad magnet
Ok thanks
onyx pollen
What mean m m+ and l heores???
empty pulsar
@jaunty edge
jaunty edge
no emblems left for eironn and no ascensions on safiya unfortunately
the box on the left was all the heroes i have
jaunty edge
will give those 2 a try, thanks
empty pulsar
Usually the eironn is ferael, but yeah...
coarse cradle
You can also try swapping ezizh and twins in proofs suggestion
hybrid hollow
Any ideas?
What arts should i use?
Okay ima try
Grace is?
Does any of it give dodge?
jaunty edge
@pale kettle rotating them around helped, thanks 
prime tulip
grace gives +15 dodge i guess, that's not much though
prime tulip
we're not talking about powers but attributes
stable basin
Any ideas?
quasi void
Need advice
mortal flax
@worthy bane does Lorsan need si to work here?
worthy bane
No but Eironn needs to not get hit by hendrik initial I assume, try rng dodges
mortal flax
the shemira bullies me I try for more rng I guess ty
heavy stag
torn valve
Can't pass this for some reasons, anyone help?
quasi void
I could use some advice to get past this stage, fawkes coffins shemira but no use, other mages rly don't work, they die very fast. Should just afk for belinda levels?
carmine lintel
lusty shale
mild geyser
Help? Lucius dies too quick so I put mezoth
storm cedar
i keep going to the wrong channels. lol
Who are good front men? Because my current front is Hogan and estrilda, with my back being Isabella, IRA, and milrae.
like do you need physical character sin the front?
misty ivy
Any idea what to do for this stage? I dont have nara to deal with the mehira.
Thanks, I'll try that.
twin hound
Any help for mauler 240?
faint current
Silver rank. Any suggestions? Everyone just dies
Only made it to about 24s left before last person fell
random garnet
Any suggestions? The enemy is almost 2x my atk power
vocal rivet
Any suggestions?I'm not planning on using mercs
faint current
I could be wrong but that L+ Arden probably do more work than that E Talene.
vocal rivet
This is the best run I got
civic parrot
thorn elbow
Tried all the combinations, can't seem to kill her, any tips?
inner kindle
need help i currently have these heroes
just mention me if you have any suggestions tia
viscid pine
Need help (ch30-4)
Biggest threat is Shemira, I can't finish her off before she ults because of Hendrick, who should I hire for this?
My heroes, pls ping me if you have any suggestions :)
Ferael just dodges Hendrick and the enemy Ferael so he's ok at the frontline, Eironn dies fast without Lyca and Rowan so I definitely need them, I literally don't know what to do except replacing Wukong, tried many other heroes like Thoran/Grez but it doesn't work.
pale kettle
Help needed for 29-40
coarse cradle
@vocal rivet put daimon behind thoran to protect him
vocal rivet
I beated that stage with the same formation i posted. Thank you though, Rene!
viscid pine
@coarse cradle thanks I finished it 🙂
btw how can you see the winning formations? it's not available for me
ember bane
Need lineup to defeat 5 Celestial ty
coarse cradle
@viscid pine I like to take ss for my records 😋
viscid pine
oh lol
ember bane
Any advice plz ☝️
pale kettle
@coarse cradle thanks! Worked after many retries 🙂
thorn elbow
tried many combinations, still can't kill her, any advice?
fickle tundra
I'm thinking about resetting my team/resonating crystal. who should i prioritize leveling up and who should i put on the crystal?
hybrid widget
@thorn elbow athalia instead brutus
stuck trellis
@ember bane
lyca
tasi
eironn
rowan
ferael
thorn elbow
@thorn elbow athalia instead brutus
@hybrid widget Still no sucess
pale kettle
I hate tasi stages 😓 any suggestions?
im new here so what heros should i get in my lineup via diamond/scroll rolls?
sonic scroll
Try to get Rowan first, then Eironn, Ferael, Tasi, Lyca, Safiya or if you want to run Gwyn comp you could try get LB's like Gwyn, Rosaline, Estrilda and save for Arthur in shop
sonic scroll
Yeah it'll take a while especially with how they've been releasing other dimensionals like Naku/Ezio recently
sonic scroll
The Gwyn comp really needs Arthur to work since his SI gives attack speed buffs to heros behind him which Gwyn really needs late game, but for early game I'm sure Lucius will work just was well if not better since you won't have SI's unlocked until you get your hero's the mythic
sonic scroll
Np!
fickle loom
@solid sandal there's often not really that much you can do at that level because you're limited by what heroes you're working on first...it'll help a bit if you describe what you've tried and why it's not working/how far you get, but i don't think there's much anyone can really help with.
celest bloom
I would try Brutus and Shemira frontline with Rowan, Lyca, and Rosa backline @solid sandal
slender ferry
What should I use with merc Nara gave up on the idea of clearing it without merc
??
Can’t use feral power cap
And I can’t use that team either :/
Hmm might give that a try btw if I cave and what to use Nara which setup should I use ?
Should I also run call on Lucius right ?
Don’t think it works with lb never seen a team die so quick
What kind of level did he have a lot of my guild cleared this chapter with lb but they all are level 300+
The problem is I can’t use any non ascended hero’s so my feral is out of question so I prob have to wait for another week for merc for 60
I can’t clear this without mercing
Been stuck here 3 days that’s what I was trying to do for a long while but safiya on log kills grove and era and then insta die
I have call on all
Other than safiya and lyca
Any idea how to auto retry on phone ?
Yah they both are Annoying especially how mehira stays alive with little bit of hp always
@pale kettle I think Rowan needs call bc without it he’s not Althing at all
No
Eiron missing 1 t2 same for Rowan
brave wagon
@pale kettle can I see the level? xD
slender ferry
Only missing t2 helmet Rowan and t2 chest eiron
brave wagon
ok
slender ferry
Is he speaking about the level I’m at ?
brave wagon
nah 30-10, unless that's where you're at too
slender ferry
Nah I’m stuck way behind
brave wagon
iirc nara replaces saf (double check on that though) @slender ferry
slender ferry
Wanted to clear it without merc
pale kettle
Help
brave wagon
@pale kettle try talene swap with ezizh
then maybe swap rowan with talene (both front line)
slender ferry
@pale kettle ty for all the help I got mad after a lot of retries and I used the merc xD
Okay thanks
hybrid hollow
Help
vagrant rain
ur a bae
hybrid hollow
What means bae?
distant mango
Need help
bright arrow
@distant mango maybe Eiron in frontline? vs Hogan
proper veldt
Welp
tulip phoenix
@proper veldt make Arden L+
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Eiron
Nemora
Sorry Arden won’t work against the hypo mage, make Arden L+ anyway
@distant mango make eiron kill farael first
lucid falcon
Pls
rough bridge
Should I stargaze for Zolrath or Mehira next? On stage 30-02, don’t feel like I’m walled just haven’t pushed hard
proper veldt
@tulip phoenix thanks, i kept going with arden and somehow got it, now Im stuck in 15-40 
tulip phoenix
@tulip phoenix thanks, i kept going with arden and somehow got it, now Im stuck in 15-40
@proper veldt haha the last stage of campaign are hard, need help?
slender ferry
Any ideas ?
proper veldt
@tulip phoenix got it after 50 tries or so, lost count, RNG gods :D, thanks
tulip phoenix
@proper veldt anytime 😉
fickle loom
@slender ferry rowan - tasi | eironn - safiya - lyca
tulip phoenix
Pls
@lucid falcon saurus Rosa and take out Lucius
robust aspen
slender ferry
Fish it doesn’t work
robust aspen
Nvm beat it
odd ginkgo
Any ss of 3002 non tasi?
astral pike
Hey guys, I need help for chapter 28 can’t even beat the first stage
woeful wadi
Not a line up help, but just started the game after following reddit for a while and reading some new player guides. Should i just reroll?
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astral pike
^^^ pls help
eager kernel
fading reef
Cheese struggle is real
narrow crypt
wet meadow
unique hatch
Been stuck here for a month any help would be great
lucid falcon
Anyway to improve
hybrid hollow
@wet meadow
Rowan/fawkes
shem
Rowan/fawkes/nemora
luc/talene
Luc/talene
wet meadow
I've already done it but thank you
modest fossil
Please guys im stuck chapter 10 21 any idea what i should run
solid sandal
I haven’t even tried it, but hopefully getting 20-60 done! If anyone has any line up help if I get stuck, I hope I have the powa!
gilded bloom
Any help with 29-54?
gloomy shard
pale kettle
fickle loom
@gloomy shard unless you're overleveled or really really really really lucky somehow, you basically need athalia or nara on mehira to pass mehira stages. low ascension ones work if you can get past power rating, if not, basically merc.
pale kettle
gilded bloom
honestly i dont think so, but i dont remember exactly how it went
i think she should be living, maybe try replacing lyca with nara
gloomy shard
Nara M +0 yeah good idea (no)
daring matrix
Need help here, its not even a boss stage lol T^T
So normally i use shem and lb , luc fawkes bel and rowan. I try placing some in 3 but most of them got killed by Athalia really quickly. If im luc ult fast enough i still dont have that much damage and when safiya ult all my line up is dead
odd ginkgo
2954
gilded bloom
ty @odd ginkgo
pale kettle
Daimon
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Fera
Also you wanna stop anything you do with lb currently and get rowan to mythic for his si
Is daimon a carry? like Shemira/Belinda? 
gilded bloom
yes
pale kettle
Well was missing one of both ^^
eager kernel
I will try, for rowan I have copies to get it to L+ and lack the food for mythic, and I need one mor copy for Ascend Daimon
fickle loom
@pale kettle nemora - lyca | eironn - rowan - tasi maybe idk
eager kernel
Not yet, I can pass it with lyca but daimon is cc-ed by arden and can't get his first ult
eager kernel
No point, she will tun to daimon, and leave fera and lyca exposed, i need to get daimon to ascend and get some food for rowan @pale kettle
pale kettle
U can also put Eiron into crsytal and Pull arden with ur Eiron. I think^^
pale kettle
Eiron
Lucius
Rowan
Lyca
Daimon
@eager kernel
eager kernel
Still nothing new, I will have to wait some time and get everything right and upgrade, thank you very much for all the help @pale kettle
I bet I will pass it tonight with a random line-up, like I always do=)))
pale kettle
What should I do?
arctic cedar
clear roost
Help im struggling a lot
loud venture
Hello @clear roost me too at same stage 😂 i just crushed this chapter till this stage
clear roost
Same! @loud venture
narrow raptor
i'm hard stuck any help ?
nova quest
Halp I hope I posted this in the right place now
hybrid hollow
halcyon glen
bright arrow
@leaden hedge 1) Lucius, Rowan, Fawkess, Belinda, Roseline ; 2) Nemora, Tasi, Safia, Eiron, Lika; 3) Arthur, Talene, Nakoruru, Shemira, Nara
Or something else
leaden hedge
@leaden hedge 1) Lucius, Rowan, Fawkess, Belinda, Roseline ; 2) Nemora, Tasi, Safia, Eiron, Lika; 3) Arthur, Talene, Nakoruru, Shemira, Nara
@bright arrow ty!
bright arrow
@halcyon glen try to use nemora
clear roost
Help
bright arrow
@clear roost maybe Antandra vs Niru?
Or Brutus
Also u can use Nemora against Ferael, for she charm him
flint vapor
Ok thank you i need twins that good if i am going to frontline against brutus 😂 😂
clear roost
Nope @bright arrow
bright arrow
@clear roost Antandra, Brutus, Lucius, Rowan, Shemira
Or Shemira, Brutus, Lucius, Rowan, Nemora
daring matrix
Yep i tried but it doesnt seem to work(?) Will try again then
nova quest
Thank u @bright arrow I beta the whole chapter using safiya pyramid and Gwen comp :D
clear roost
@bright arrow nope
woven lagoon
Any thoughts? Usually moving Eironn or switching Ferael for Saf gets me a foothold on the level but I get burst with every combination I’ve tried
lucid falcon
This good?
bright arrow
@woven lagoon how about Ferael, Skreg, Tasi, Rowan, Eiron
lucid falcon
bright arrow
@lucid falcon best
lucid falcon
@bright arrow same for wrizz?
bright arrow
@woven lagoon or u can try to catch random with Rowan, Lyca, Safiya, Eironn and Tasi
@lucid falcon swap Cecilia to Belinda for Wrizz
woven lagoon
Thanks will try both
pale kettle
Any better strat or only rng?
bright arrow
@pale kettle use shemira))
pale kettle
Which comp?
distant mango
Ne d help
bright arrow
@distant mango #lineup-help message
pulsar geyser
wow early game graveborn team
distant mango
@bright arrow is that the same lineup as mine
pulsar geyser
how many resolating spots are open?
shell drift
Reslolating,
pulsar geyser
next to the library
pulsar geyser
oof
bright arrow
@distant mango if u don't have the Daemon or Izold, it's better team
pulsar geyser
can u unlock some spaces in resolating without gems?
shell drift
Not atm
pulsar geyser
u know what is the wishlist?
be carefull what heroes are ya putting in there
u need to get fawkes and rowan
shell drift
pulsar geyser
bruuuh
shell drift
I'm new so I don't really know all the top tiers
shell drift
Ok
shell drift
K thx
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violet igloo
@shell drift This bit.ly/afkarena_quick_start_guide
and this : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/716056488077951006/i3fro6c1cew41.png should help you out
shell drift
@violet igloo thx
pale kettle
Anyone can help me which is the best move? Stuck at 6-20 now as a starters since two days ago:)
bright arrow
@shell drift maybe it help u
https://preview.redd.it/yr2ywpclsdo51.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f605d51544e04d2a966dbe9a29b8f054fdfe9184
shell drift
@bright arrow thanks
sinful vault
calm basalt
anyone have decent sets for 32-56? I am hard stuck
crude gulch
Anybody has a screenshot of 28-40 win with eironn,sofiya team
empty pulsar
@crude gulch post what you're currently trying please :)
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calm basalt
@bright arrow Im trying not to utilize thoran cheese
bright arrow
@crude gulch i've done it 6 month ago(
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628853592048009236/693216868265361498/Screenshot_20200328-005306.jpg
crude gulch
@bright arrow
calm basalt
farael instead of nara
empty pulsar
Eironn wants +30, so does Rowan. Each far more important than tasi or saf. You dont need nara for that stage
@crude gulch
bright arrow
@crude gulch Nara vs Mehira to prevent the latter from cast the bats
crude gulch
I tryied its not working
bright arrow
@empty pulsar With Nara/Atalia it's easist ))
empty pulsar
You need eironn to dodge, didnt take too many tries in full T2 tbh. Was quite easy
crude gulch
My eironn,fareal and sofiya are +30 si.Rowan is 23
empty pulsar
Not in that screen shot. Eironn is between +20 and +30
empty pulsar
Ah you really need to get a faction weapon on him. Furniture is very strong too. It may take you a few more tries at a lower power level.
pale kettle
Any ideas?
empty pulsar
@pale kettle hated that stage, but
pale kettle
@empty pulsar Nara is must have?
pale kettle
Hard, because i need 30sig thoran
stark dagger
Any ideas?
bright arrow
Shemira is good vs Numisu
vagrant rain
empty pulsar
@vagrant rain see my screen above, saf bottom instead of ferael
Also get eironn +30! :)
rotund hare
Help with 20-32. Trying to finish chapter 20 today so I can use the faction scrolls for LB
bright arrow
@rotund hare maybe Ferael will better than Kelthur
rotund hare
I don’t use him a lot but someone said he sort of counters Silvina and it’s worked well for me against her so far. I’ll give Ferael a shot
Same spot as Kelthur is in currently?
toxic flame
@rotund hare u might wanna save the merc but rowan in front and eironn in middle back could work
rotund hare
Yeah I’m trying to save the merc because I might need it to finish the chapter later.
@bright arrow everyone got melted still lol
bright arrow
Tasi?
toxic flame
@rotund hare also r u retrying for rng?
rotund hare
I’ve been retrying since like 2:45 lol
Tasi gets demolished by Silvina in less than 2 seconds. So does Rowan. Gorvo gets demolished if I put him on front line as well. Everyone but a small handful of heroes get killed in the blink of an eye
toxic flame
I mean do u try the same lineup a bunch of times? What u need is dodge
rotund hare
Please enlighten me lol
Yes, I’ve tried multiple different lineups around 20-30ish times each. Might need to try more I guess.
Just beat it with this lineup. Smh.
toxic flame
Rng is a crazy time. On 31-4 ive ran around 500 tries. Ive beaten the 1st fight ~10-15 times but have not been able to get the rng on the second fight.
Rowan is usually a very good dodge tank but he needs gear. Not sure what he will do at e+ either
rotund hare
Yeah, I wish I could pull more copies of him. I have a good amount of fodder for LB too, just waiting to pull the right heroes to use it on.
I almost always include Rowan in back/middle of my lineup. I’ve found that if nobody gets through to him, I win a lot of battles. Fights where they have people who infiltrate or pull my heroes to them are the ones I have trouble with.
toxic flame
@rotund hare middle back is good but eventually you will end up puttinh him in front a lot. I use my rowan almost exclusively in front line (especially in eironn comp)
rotund hare
What makes him so good in the front? Seems like he would get destroyed up there.
hoary vale
So I started up a new account like a week ago and forgot about it I only play f2p did a load of summons and got this what is my luck on this account
fickle frost
hii I just started 2 days ago and I'm stuck on chapter 6 o.o what should I do
gloomy sluice
Has anyone a suggestion to help me beat stage 26-60 ? I’ve been stuck there for a while now. Thanks guys !
north meadow
vagrant breach
Can use some help
torpid plinth
help anyone cant even ult with the team dying
toxic flame
@torpid plinth switch eironn and rosa. In general u want to get out of the habit of always placing eironn in middle back. There is an arden here, so you need to control that.
Restart if u dont interrupt his roots
torpid plinth
@toxic flame I already tried so many times it's just rowan and tasi dies so quick and the rest follows even stopping his roots
coarse cradle
@torpid plinth post your other heroes?
worldly parcel
I need help please thank you 🙂
glad flax
My team is a mess. Was sloppy with my fodder.. don't know how to make it not suck. 😭
toxic flame
@worldly parcel is there any reason you are not using eironn comp? 311 is massively overlevelled for ch28.
I am also confused by the lack of even one +30 SI given your level.
@glad flax its ok it should be salvagable. 1st step is to stop making L heroes randomly. Reset lyca/Daimon, take ofi off crystal and but lyca on (daimon too if possible). Start leveling ur mauler amd gb fodder because they have higher level cap. You also need a better carry (shemira wont work great until lvl 161). Mirael is a great option if u can build her up.
regal dawn
Any lineup advice would be greatly appreciated
toxic flame
@regal dawn I have the same questions I did with waifu. Have u tried eironn comp? Also the SI progression seems off for that level. (Lvl 330 is really really overlevelled for that chapter)
It would help me to know what u have been using.
cerulean zenith
@toxic flame does your name indicate you have the answers for 31-4 or you are also stuck on 31-4 😆
glad flax
Yeah regret the random L heroes--returning after a year and just, awkward haha. But. I can't build Mirael, which is my big issue. Not sure who to use as a carry, since I can't get Shemira to 161, and I don't think I have any better alternatives right now? Not sure how to do my main team. I can reset whoever I need to, and change out my res crystal.
toxic flame
@cerulean zenith lol I have been stuck on 31-4 for weeks that is why it says that. Need a +30 izold merc which I should hopefully get next reset
cerulean zenith
haha okay. i have been stuck for at least a week now too
toxic flame
@glad flax I hade suggesting this to people but you could always reset and start fresh. Its not a whole lot of progress to lose out on
@cerulean zenith what are you using? And what is your success rate like on the 1st fight?
bronze dagger
^About 2-3 weeks at the most for you @glad flax
regal dawn
@toxic flame my eironn is garbage so no I haven't tried using him. I'm pretty much f2p.
@toxic flame I've tried a bunch of different comps which is why I'm here looking for help
glad flax
I'm aware, I already am working on a new account.. That one is on S64, so just. RIP any chances of arena. I just wanted to give it some love on the side ( see if I could save it, hah. ) while I worked on my new one, which is this account.
bronze dagger
You should avoid making legendary heroes unless you can immeditaly get them L+
toxic flame
@regal dawn it just looks like u have not invested in the right heroes tbh.
Rowan/tasi. Lyca/eironn/ferael or safiya
That team is fantastic and I got to ch31 at like lvl 307 with it.
Just shift your best gear to those heroes and it should work
Shemira +30 was a mistake but not much u can do abt that. If u have not been getting red chests from events u rly should. Even ftp u should have 4-5 +30 SIs by that time at least. Rowan is #1 priority. Then eironn/ferael/thoran/saurus
glad flax
Ah? Rip. Was looking for a guide on that though, saw one at one point and lost it
bronze dagger
The goal is to get 5 heroes to 161 as fast as possible, because you can use the crystal.
glad flax
Fair enough, I can L+ Lorsan at least.
toxic flame
@glad flax there are lots of guides pinned to this server. U should check em out
brave oriole
maybe add Rosa @amber dove
put her front of Lucius
@amber dove well, that works, but Lucius need dura's call if got it already. should work something like
nemora
rosa
mirael
lyca
Lucius
yep, the call Is a big help for your Lucius and team
cerulean zenith
@toxic flame Not great on first battle maybe 25% win rate. My ezizh is too weak for second battle
brave oriole
@cerulean zenith he's weak Backline? don't you have safiya?
toxic flame
@cerulean zenith lmao 25% on the first battle? That sounds like an absolute dream. Only reason I cannot beat the stage is my win rate is <1% on fight 1 so I have not been able to get the necessaey rng for thoran cheese in fight 2
brave oriole
mostly the best team for fight one is
safiya
rowan
eironn
tasi
ezizh
on my alt I could find another dream team, for first fight
like
safiya
rowan
eironn
estrilda
tasi
toxic flame
@cerulean zenith after seeing your kit I am almost certain you can beat it. U need to get that daimon merc protected in the back tho. Drop eironn too and if you really need you can borrow my thoran
@brave oriole that team is the most common for fight one bug I disagree that its the most optimal. (I have <1% win rate using that team). Izold +30 is most optimal.
cerulean zenith
yeah the merc helps a lot for the first battle. eironn is kinda deadweight bc mine isnt 30si.
i tried variations of that team for 1st batttle but win rate is awful
toxic flame
@brave oriole how the hell is that 1/3 win rate? Im higher level... less than 1% win rate
brave oriole
bcs you use the wrong artifacts maybe, and my estrilda it's 3/3
cerulean zenith
oh wait lmao now i remember why i use eironn. so he doesnt pull me
toxic flame
@brave oriole what are the right artifacts then lol
brave oriole
im having call on all and eye on safiya but the ring works too
toxic flame
@brave oriole i can try that. Any chance I can merc your estrilda if it makes that much of a difference?
You can borrow my +30 thoran for the second fight in exchange
brave oriole
not sure, it would be a great help using your own if have, for the t2 faction
other than that, np to give you my estrilda
toxic flame
33086353 is my ID.
brave oriole
the best team for your lvl, my bad luck it's that im. low lvl, and eironn it's not 5 stars, but ezizh setup works great, just tasi need chalice or else to not die on eironn pull
toxic flame
@brave oriole ezhiz set up is what ive been using it just has so low win rate
brave oriole
your tasi should never die, put something defense on her until she stay alive. and on safiya I've used ring or eye when ive passed with my other acc
call on ezizh is good too
cerulean zenith
i have saf but no m+ gear on her
brave oriole
@toxic flame btw, ezizh should be back of tasi, not front
@empty talon usually Rosa helps.
toxic flame
@brave oriole i applied for ur estrilda
empty talon
I tried a full lightbearers team, switched between Cecilia hendrik and estrilda, and tried every formation with them but nothing worked, or cam close to winning
brave oriole
so try something like,
Belinda
izold
rowan
rosa
Lucius dura's call
empty talon
Hmmm okay cool, I'll try thanks
brave oriole
keep call on Lucius, and when there's a huge dps, like now, Brutus can help
Lucius would need someone front to survive, that's why Rosa
toxic flame
@brave oriole so u have 1/3 win rate with this?
brave oriole
yep, but there's a factor for you, if your estrilda survives 18 sec, mine does bcs full t2 faction
toxic flame
@brave oriole i didnt realize full t2 faction makes that big a difference
empty talon
brave oriole
it does@toxic flame
empty talon
Thanks a lot, had to mess with the formation a bit, and that wasn't even the boss battle smh
toxic flame
My estrilda is only M tho. I can give ger faction gear but its not enough
brave oriole
get her a, she's rlly helpful
toxic flame
@brave oriole im working on her currently
I just got her M like less than a week ago lol.
cerulean zenith
😫
brave oriole
toxic flame
@cerulean zenith ive had that happen so many times
cerulean zenith
woot. youll get it @toxic flame :)
toxic flame
This team shows promise but do I need him to be ascended?
toxic flame
Yes he has call
stuck trellis
toxic flame
Lyca kinda seems to just die anyway. @brave oriole
brave oriole
try to test more artifacts, grace chalice, or just replace her, she dies of eironn pull
frigid siren
Aight
brave oriole
@stuck trellis tried eironn front with rowan? with dura's call he should pull and not die 1/3
frigid siren
27-42, what should I focus on since everything seems to butt fuck me
stuck trellis
eironn front pulling Isabelle u mean? because he already does a 4 pull in middle back
brave oriole
@stuck trellis pulling this is not great, is better to tank Brutus with rowan
frigid siren
Ignore that dumb shem I'm ashamed as it is
And that raine.. please I didn't know any better
Anyone?
cerulean zenith
@toxic flame i used call on twins and rowan, eye on rosa, drape on phx (but im not sure if that is best... drape means she revives faster). saf died relaly quickly but her buff to open helped rest of team stay alive. i had eye on her too
its my sustain comp so just lots of healing. who does rosa follow? i follow rowan. he spams ult to stun
toxic flame
How many tries did it take u?
cerulean zenith
i swapped to saf from ezizh and got it on 2nd try lmao
toxic flame
Idk if my talene just is not good enough because she is not +30
cerulean zenith
yeah that makes a big difference... i think i can loan if you want to give it a shot
pale kettle
I cant do a thing, any ideas?
toxic flame
@cerulean zenith im down to try lol
Oh but actually I need to merc the twins so that does not work
cerulean zenith
damn. are the twins ur mercing have call?
you could try call on talene. she'll regain energy while reviving right?
balmy relic
Guys i just got Flora from summon tell me if she fits my team Please im stuck at campaign
wheat scarab
Need help pls
terse warren
Any Recommendations, all lineups I've tried get one shot https://i.imgur.com/YRN9LzI.png https://i.imgur.com/4WYdfJe.png
brave wagon
@toxic flame are you able to merc an izold?
@terse warren try swapping lucius and brutus and nem instead of brutus with eye to charm the enemy arden before he entangles your team. Wilder arden teams suck to go up against as lb main I know, just gonna have to RNG it unfortunately.
stuck trellis
@wheat scarab this should work, if it doesnt try swapping lyca and rowan
daimon
lyca
tasi
rowan
ferael
u might also need call on ferael if u need his fear faster, but u can decide whether or not u need that after testing
pale kettle
whats the current wriz meta if you have +30 Saurus?
terse warren
@brave wagon How exactly do I get Nemora to charm the Arden, she never charms anyone before he casts?
stuck trellis
have u tries putting call on nemora so she charms faster? @terse warren
terse warren
yea she has call already
wait nvm she has eye my bad
does call even help get the charm off? doesnt that only help with the heal?
true geyser
@vocal sluice who do i put in the front and who in the back? for the lineup i just made is Belinda, Wukong, Tasi, Skreg and Rowan
lapis wharf
Can someone help me with a line up formation using Mauler/Graveborn to do the PVP event with?
stuck trellis
@terse warren call gives the movement speed stat, which is the same thing as haste. so basically everything is faster
vocal sluice
belinda, skreg, wukong, rowan, tasi should be good enough in that slot order, might swap wukong, skreg, and tasi out every now and again
@lapis wharf i use ferael, safiya, tidus, brutus, oden, swap out oden for skreg when i need 3 mauler
terse warren
I just wound up beating it anyways, but Ill keep that in mind
I wound up replacing nemora with lyca and rosaline with tasi
stuck trellis
nice
u big brained it 
pale kettle
Can someone help me with Wriz? I'm 299 with 30 Saurus and most the "meta" heroes at least L+ but still can't even do 2b
true geyser
who should I set on the resonating crystal tho? like the ones that increase from 1 to 80, etc?
@vocal sluice
vocal sluice
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/755171441111990412/image0.jpg this explains it
toxic flame
@brave wagon lol I have been trying to merc an ezold for weeks
@brave wagon did you intentionally make you name turn the text backwards when someone @s you? Because that is evil.
stark dagger
Help
timber zephyr
vagrant breach
Can use some help
sturdy kiln
BRUHHHH I WANNA CATCH UP ALREADYYYY
@vagrant breach
Lucius
Rowan
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Maybe? Problem is grez, who reduces magic dmg... tell me how it goes
vagrant breach
Will give it a go, thanks
sturdy kiln
Np
vagrant breach
Think I might need couple more levels in Shem, managed to ult 4 times with different comp but Niru and Vedan wouldnt die fast enough
With your comp I ulted 2 times and others died way too fast
I can clear it with merc saurus but I want to save it for 14-40
stark dagger
Ooof. I guess i have to wait. Lol.
brave wagon
@toxic flame yes 
outer burrow
Any thoughts on a lineup, ik I'm overleveled recently came back so behind on most other stat boosts. Mehira clapping me
toxic flame
@brave wagon thats so rude lol
charred wyvern
Mmm
ionic hull
With some luck nara probably kill brutus
stuck trellis
@outer burrow try this, only took around 5 minutes of retries
your levels should make up for thr lack of si
faint current
@hollow hatch So is this....serviceable? Or absolute garbage? (Pretend sig is +20 I’m working on it)
Tasi probably swapping in for Lucius once I get enough fodder
This probably doesn’t qualify as a “stall comp” I should look at one of those “meta comps” pictures
hollow hatch
@faint current actually that comp with tasi and rowan in front is one of the best imo
faint current
Oh fr? Time to get that fodder. Thanks!
slender ferry
Help nothing is working
stuck trellis
maybe this? @slender ferry
safiya
eironn
rowan
tasi
lyca
swap tasi if she cant live frontline, and also call on eironn so he can pull
gonna be retry heavy no matter what comp you go probably
slender ferry
Eiron insta dies
stuck trellis
how many retries?
im pretty sure he will live every once in a while
slender ferry
Yah but if he lives all other die and doesn’t pull
stuck trellis
so even with lyca in front tasi dies?
slender ferry
Tasi doesn’t always die
stuck trellis
oh then just retry
or maybe some of these ch 31 guys can give u lineups
forest dirge
Do you have Farael, @slender ferry? I did mine with:
Farael
Rowan
Tasi
Eironn
Lyca
ionic hull
Humm and rowan 1 eiron 2 saf 3 lyca 4 tasi 5 maybe