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tasi tanks there pretty well, I can survive until athalia ults or if my safiya ults and athalia dies I survive until safiya ult
pretty sure but I can't do power req
Any thoughts on the lineup?
what should my lineup be?
Any recommendation for my Challenger team? Maybe put in Nemora (si 18), Talene (M si 10), Athalia (M+ si 10) or Khasos (10). Btw, getting thoran Ascended this week
How would I beat this level?
@mortal flax I think I've cleared kt 401 with Rowan, Tasi, Safiya, Eironn, Lyca
@gusty walrus mh need some more power for using my eironn but will try then ty!
oh nemora charm gonna try that
@gusty walrus was that before or after numisu change?
I started a few days ago and I'm at 8-12 what should be my team comp
Before
eh okay I will still try it thanks
Ferael +30 reduces numisu's health regen by 80%, so idk if that's important
Tasi-call
Rowan-eye
Nemora-chalice
Lyca-grace
Ferael-blade
It won't work immediately, so just keep trying
Need some help with this
Ferael destroys me
Hey guys, I’m approaching that stage where I feel shemira is losing her effectiveness. Can you suggest a good replacement for her? This is my current heroes. I’m at chapt 24-3
@edgy ibex Tasi, Rowan, Lyca, Eironn, Safiya/Ferael seems to be the best team with no cele/hypo heroes right now
Ascend Ferael, Eironn, Safiya, Nara and I feel like you're good to go
Who should I merc? 😅
@gusty walrus alright. Ty
Managed to get to 20-60 despite the level gap but this last one is rough
*oh yeah Lyca juuuust got brought up to Mythic Lvl180
@gusty walrus is nakoruru also someone to consider?
@pale kettle kt 374 and what floor are you?
@edgy ibex Go for her with lab coins. High end players say she's great.
Aight sweet. Weeb line up soon 
28-56
@astral pike should be able to beat it without merc...try swapping ferael with Fawkes and move shem Rosa to bottom
Thanks @coarse cradle
Need help with this stage. Have tried most mythic heroes in my pool
Any ideas?
26-36, Fereal just says
Hippity hoppity, ur hp is my property
@burnt magnet eironn, rowan, lyca, tasi, nemora
@solar stag control the arden and profit. Also get talene out of there :D
28-24 anyone ? Usually run wilder fera team but maulers beat it hatd times, could use some general advice on how to deal with maulers in campaign
you can mehira that stage. replace fera/eironn/lyca for mehira
time your ults between mehira and tasi
Mehira instead of fera ?
@empty pulsar honestly it's the skreg and shemira and the niru plus the Arden so basically the whole team now that I think about it
But if you stop arden roots the stage becomes significantly easier :)
Can anyone help with mine 😐
They die before any significant roots
I need help on this
Stuck here
Been stuck 3 days going on 4 days . The front line too tanky and too much cc. My luci gets one ult off before dying
@neon zenith did u try mercenary?
I'm dumb and used my mercenaries the beginning of the week lol @scarlet seal
I guess i should just wait till next week
its still fine, u can do it prolly
are u getting melted or theres a chance?
one way is to simply stack every1 down, for example:
What’s the current Wrizz meta team comp?
rosa and tasi top, lucius mid, saveas bottom with brutus
if u have a lot of dust I suggest u to reset lucius and lvl every1 141+
oh switching that helped a lot, i survived for like 40 seconds this time instead of getting wiped the first 5 seconds
ill keep retrying for right rng if not ill swap levels thanks
yeah and u can put saveas behind brutus to deal heavy dmg on one side
Can i get suggestions? Cant get past double lucius shield o:
Time to build my next Mauler. Should it be;
- Tidus
- Antandra
- Numisu
- Other? (except Bloodsnarl, who is already at max. 😛 )
numisu is the only support option so, that, lol
@fickle loom I hear he's recently been buffed again, too
i'm half joking, but i do think he's pretty good overall still, i'm seeing him in pvp even
@proud mantle Bloodsnarl is there as a joke
Oof
Alright guys, what's the trick to this one?
U shud cart him and get all that resource back
He's in my profile
i mean, since nara is pulling your backline anyway, i would put lucius in backline so he becomes frontline LUL. otherwise it's faction tower, there's really not that much choice beyond just trying a lot...
@proud mantle but my Bloodsnarl eats Dreaf salad as an appetizer
@atomic tree Try Estrilda / Rowan / Fawkes / Rosaline / Belinda
Need some help please. Stuck at 5-40
your carry (your main damage) should be at least 10 levels higher at that point. also don't you still get a free wu kong when you start? (not that he's going to be that useful, but free hero is free.)
Any ideas?
Whats the best arena team i can make with this roster? Rowan, talene, tasi and not sure who else have several to possible choices
Any ideas?
at lower levels, when rosaline doesn't live, sometimes doing double dps works (shemira + belinda) ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Great call! Swapped out rosaline and lyca for Belinda and Tidus and breezed it
After a week and a day since I was introduced to the game.
Current lineup:
Maulers
Saveas E+, Brutus E, Numisu E
Celestials
Flora E+, Wu Kong E.
Pushing through Chapter 7 with some difficulty.
Having trouble with the second chapter in Peaks of Time, The Unrelenting Blaze.
Any and all suggestions welcome, please.
@ionic wigeon u can definitely get past this
one way is to level up wukong to 100 or u can just add lucius to crystal and replace him with isabella/nem/nako
hmm u might wanna run mirael carry untill 160 or when u get bel/shem to mythic
but u got a good draw, yeah thats great, do it, and remove shem, she will be useful at 161+
do u have rosaline?
yeah its classic, especially vedan, can u SS your heroes?
If your shem can survive brutus damage, try
Tasi
Rosaline
Rowan
Shemira
Lucius
Any advice? Started a week ago and stuck.
This is what all the winning formations use but my rosa dies way to fast, boss silvina, fawkes coffins shem
Idk what I'm missing
What’s the best lineup I can do?
Read some beginner guide
Repost for visibility. Need help have tried a lot of combos
@keen shale have you tried
Rosa(call)
shem(blade)
Rowan(grace)
talene(drape)/lucius(chalice)
Talene/lucius
And if talene doesnt work try fawkes
@tardy lark
I'd try the one I just put
I'll give it a go
This is what all the winning formations use but my rosa dies way to fast, boss silvina, fawkes coffins shem
@keen shale let me know how it goes
I'm using the winning formation and did way to many retries, wonder what I'm missing
@solar stag Your're the 🐐
I'm good
Sorry for the blue light filter lol
I just beat it
@keen shale all good lmao
Any advice? Seems so hard after numisu buff
If your shem can survive brutus damage, try
Tasi
Rosaline
Rowan
Shemira
Lucius
@rich wagon , it not work with that setup, but through that i have another idea and it works:
Lucius
- rosaline
Rowan - brutus
Shemira
Btw, why lucius is like better if at back line?
What’s the best line up I can do?
@fair snow
Tasi
Wukong
Lyca
Thane
Solise
Yay another person to help me here
@pale kettle because lucius sometimes gets raw stat checked, and being backline lets him put up his shield/heal his teammates who take damage

@hollow hatch maybe you can help me with this, I have the same lineup as some victorious battles but no matter what rng I get my rosa just dies immediately. Wondering if it's an artifact issue, although grace doesnt seem to help at all
Would you guys first level the sigitem for Belinda or nemora?
Belinda to +10
@solar stag probably cuz rosaline is only Legendary so she dies to silvina lyca and brutus, you got any good rowan gear?
hmm try switching the gear to rowan and using
Fawkes
Shem
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
(and swithc lucius or rosa whatever makes rowan/lucius live longer)
I think lucius will flinch brutus roar as well? hopefully at least cause otherwise rowan will kinda die
Belinda to +10
@hollow hatch ty
I'm assuming if you put lucius frontline he just insta dies?
can you also send the damage on that if you have it?
it looks like verything went fine until brutus roar, rowan can't dodge, he dies and then Lyca shot you and you died
Yeah I dont have the damage sorry
I might just have to wait for 240 crystal unfortunately
But I'm only 17k dust away so it isnt that bad
btw has shem always done that amount of damage? never used her but seems like its very little after she ults
honestly it looks like you'd need to survive an extraordinairy amount of time in order for shem to kill everyone
Yeah true, shem at this point sucks, but I'm going based off of the winning strats
And they ALL use shem, with the formation above
hmm was just curious, but yeah looks like don't have enough damage
like you got shem to ult and everything, but theres no way you're surviving long enough for shem to kill everyone
Well she just needs to triple ult
@hollow hatch finished my party comp program 😛 Now it looks not so bad :
damn thats quite good, is like you choose names for the position and generates an image?
ohh damn even better 😄
Wish LilithStaff will include this on the portal. I can give them source code. It will not get much time
@cerulean heron you wanna use thoran cheese?
@cerulean heron you wanna use thoran cheese?
@copper stirrup
Tried like thousand of times already. My borrowed Thoran feels late in casting SS maybe because of Rowan at SI29
@cerulean heron for cheese you shoud have another party comp. Like this:
Just to get energy and get all enemies infront of the thoran
@copper stirrup ill give it a try. Tho my lorsan will surely die from the 1st dive of athalia
@cerulean heron or this :
In case of thoran cheese strategy , you don't care on your team life . Lika will give energy, Lorsan will use debuff, nara/Athalia will get back of the enemies line
:XMARK6: AlmightyGoop, that command is disabled in this channel.
Need some help please. Got stuck at 5-40. Any suggestions?
Sorry forgot
Who dies immediately?
In this lineup? Lucius
@empty lodge mm try this way:
Defeat. I guess besides leveling up there's no way to win. Ancira died first btw
Change her to Arden maybe
You are totally suffers on DD in your team. Need to wait few more days
Just all what you can get. Beast until chapter 14 is Saveas. And Shemira/Belinda should be your main carry later
it's all depends on copies . Brutus is not a DD, Skreg too. Ascend saveas if you will get few copies. He will help a lot
Thx for the help
Does nara work instead of athalia if I only have M?
Ah, a man of culture
What do u mean lol
@stuck trellis
I used the exact same thing for a longggggg time
Ayy let's go
@copper stirrup what artifacts do I use? I never know what to put on talene/athalia
I'm assuming blade drape and call on belinda lucius rosa respectively
Talene in your case -eye . Athalia - doesn't matter realy, maybe drape .
um her BR is much lower then lucius?
She's 220 and lucius is 240, so yeah they have like a 100k+ difference
um, didn't see it ... try to use shem instead. But seems for this stage you need burst damage
This is not possible is it?
Hmm I saw someone use this and he has 180 crystal, u think I could do something similar?
I used all my mercs
Well yeah my crystal is stuck at 180 😅 need some LB fodders to make Rowan Ascended. Too bad the tower gives 18 foods if i can clear 120 today 😂
Help
Ok, thank you
cant beat this stage any tips?
I really sick against the event mage. I know they disappears after 6 ultimates are used, but who should my lineup be?
@pale kettle
Did it 
Could someone help me which are the best compositions for challenger tournament with my roster?
@ocean night 1
2
3
smthg like this imo, maybe twins to some team 2 instead of Rosa
@arctic flax what kind of help?
Idk whats good and whats not
Thanks @copper stirrup
@arctic flax smthg like this for now:
Shemira/Belinda will be your carry. (Shem until chapter 25-26), belinda maybe to chapter 30 .
So darius is bad?
I can't beat this Shemira
@ocean night you can make fully LB team, but its working not too god at arena
@arctic flax who is darius?
Guy with the big sword
huh
@arctic flax he called Hogan. He is a pure tank. But shemira can tank with lucius . So you don't need him anymore
Oke
@cloud fossil what you have else?
I'll get rid of hogan
@copper stirrup
my fawkes managed to keep coffin Shemira until the very end then she ults and everyone dies
@cloud fossil
doesn't look promising
yep
@cloud fossil try this and say, does Eiron dies instantly or not
this may takes few tries to eiron not get interrupted on initial pull
pretty good result,but once Shemira ults,everyone dies
maybe couple of tries with tasi rng will help you
26-60 recommendations? I tried a bunch of teams from youtube and my ideas.. and nothing works
I got it thanks but now this looks tricky @copper stirrup
I don't think it's winnable with my current roster. But I would appreciate any Merc recommendations
I'm stuck in this level for a pretty long time
Try puting lyca mid or eironn.Or try puting eironn where lyca is just dont have shemira mid
I mean you should be able to beat it. Just try switching the formation a bit
Suggested lineup pls?
umm some problem with image uploading from my side :p
@leaden moat
Alright thanks. Using that already. Glad its a good lineup then 😊
Any hints here?
@copper stirrup thane 2 shots arthur
@golden crown forgot it's thane there 🙂
Whos got coffin from fawkes?
thane
I'm stuck any help please!! And where is the artefact please
@copper stirrup changed Brutus to totem dude
It's worse
um. Rosa dies instanly? or not
Not, rosa is the last to die
Ferael is a problem?
Plz halp me
@lofty herald try tasi instead of fawkes
though fawkes might be slightly better for lb comps, A tasi is definitely better than L fawkes
and it's literally +20 as well
Hi guys! Can someone suggest me some linup For wrizz and Soren?
@winged elm can I see your heroes?
Oki
@winged elm are you able to merc a +30 A saurus?
if not then it's fine, not a must but nice to have
Ye i have lvl29 SI i need only 1 more temple run and i’ll reach lvl 30 SIgnature item on him
oh, have you claimed your red chests from the event yet?
Witch one?
the wizard hat one
Oh i dunno. 😂
try
Twins
- Saurus
Rowan - Grezhul
Warek
Ah no sorry i understand. I’ll take with 90 wizard things 1 copy of twins
how much dmg are you doing atm?
Right now 1.3 bn
yeah should be able to hit like 2b with the saurus comp
I have 1 guild mate have done 7.5 bn but he use auto so i’m not able to see his Comp
put eye on twins, call on rowan, blade on saurus, um... maybe like grace on warek and chalice on grezhul
Ok
I know I did around 1b with a lb comp at lv 269, so you should be able to smash that with a saurus team at lv 300+
should be above 5b then. Anyways try the comp and let me know how you went 😄
Ok
how did you go?
@pale kettle can you help me out with this level?
Also @pale kettle , try nara/athalia to interrupt mehira for 28-40
basically just lb comp and wilder comp, everything else kinda trash
An advice on 29-43?
@pale kettle are you farming for TR rn?
oh... yeah the exp wall really sucks
I can't remember.... I know it was a significant damage dealer though
do you have any advice for 28-51?
I've been retrying for ages with my lb and saf eiron comps, but they don't seem to work. Like I did the same comps and on youtube, but it doesn;t seem to click for me
@barren tree can you remember how you did it?
um... maybe try talene? instead of like saf
I would swap lyca and safiya
I did it with Rowan, Tasi, Ferael, Eironn, Lyca I think @barren tree
woah did you push from ch24 - 28 in 2 days?
@brave wagon I think it was the one that @pale kettle suggested
My eiron just gets deleted though idk why
Oh I actually forgot I moved my gear, I guess thats the problem 
@wanton plank try to get random with it:
Bel keeps ulting on shilded Brutuses 
you can use manual mode 😉
I tried it doesnt work well, but I did it now with some rng now 
@brave wagon
@wanton plank btw, I'd recommend retrying like 50 times at least before trying new comps for all stages, coz rng is a big thing
for tasi/nemora - its pretty big rng
I stuck here any idea wich team can beat this
shem lucius rowan arden rosa
@pearl heron
you should probs use the same comp until ch 20 too xD
@brave wagon problem wasnt rng, I litteraly forgot I moved my gear and I had naked Lucius and Fawkes 
;P
could I do the same but with saf or tasi instead of thane?
@brave wagon doesent work
how many times have you retried? if <50 I recommend just keep retrying and also how did you lose?
yeah but what's so special about thane though? the stun maybe?
Arden got one shoted
did you put gear on him?
he's like relatively underleveled for 28-51 too
should I try to cc arden with like nara/atha?
Warek is only elite
yeah that's fine
use lyca, warek, wukong, shemira, rowan I think...
and only ult once for wukong then 4 times for shem
No he dies
if shem dies too fast, use rowan's ult correspondingly too
Wu Kong couldn't even ult once
ok basically you need max gear and relics on your heroes during the event
if you are equipping the best gear and relics, they shouldn't die unless you are scaled really badly by the event
oh if you have the twins you can use them too
@stuck trellis to be completely honest, probs just sit until your heroes are lv 280+ then climb like 60 levels at once xD
True why am I making myself suffer like this lmao
coz it's not a progression thing, it's basically like a treasure chest waiting for you to claim whenever you really need it
Alright I'll wait till I get 240 crystal and push hard
@brave wagon Thanks. I got 73
I'm stuck, no idea what to do, other than wait for more exp.
Your carry Belinda needs to ult faster, if can't, afk then
@copper stirrup thx worked
Any idea how to clear this?
@brave wagon i haven’t try yet because Soren is not up
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@compact heart just try ur almost even with power, smash through, Belinda is in the right Position, thats fine give it some trys
Is it ok if I lose the 25% bonus?
I was running wilder + wukong and flora for the bonus
you will get control . You can change Shemira for Wukong
Ahh okok!
Not so many copies right now, so hard to say. Until lvl 100 - all formation kinda ok
@warped river make hero list screen por favore 😉
Can you help me?
@copper stirrup So what do you think?
@warped river
and the new GB infront of (i have no his icon in my program 😉 should wait a little bit
Ok, thanks! Will try 🙂
@real flicker what heroes do you have?
@warped river realy ugly... awaiting for 100x100 icon :
@real flicker
but you have problem... no Belinda/shemira....
Any1 got tips? This ulmus destroys me with him healing
Try to make it yourself 😉 at least 20-30 tries. And remember, you always need 1 CC 😉
@supple zealot
you are suffering w/o any proper SI quality 😭
Im lost on this game omg 😦
Your eiron is not so strong as it must be here... nemora +20 is kinda error 😭
Yeah i dont spend money on the game 🙂 spend maybe 25 euros
Help mee guys please 😢
What is the best combination with the heros I have unlocked? Hit a big wall and not able to progress.
Please
Any help on who to ascend or any lineup help? Thank you all
@lyric spruce you can level up and take to L+ either Mirael or Saveas, as your main damage dealer, with rowan and talene as your supports, and use wukong and lyca to feel the other roles until you reach lv 120 on ur heroes and have summoned other heroes. Prioritize leveling up ur damage dealer first, as being overleved in that hero with help considerably (e.g, if you have resources to make all heroes lv 100. Consider instead making your carry lv 120, and then level up the rest as much as you can)
What is the best combination with the heros I have unlocked? Hit a big wall and not able to progress.
@rough harbor
Wukonf is going to help you for quite a while. Looking at your heroes I'd recommend leveling up wukong and izold as they can help you considerably until you reach the max level of their current ascensions. If you dont come accross more copies of those heroes, make sure that instead, you are using one of the legendary tier heroes as your carry (mirael, and saveas are usually the recommended), as you can easily dispose of those heroes in the future.
Again, being overleveled in one hero compared to the others is more beneficial than having all your heroes at same level during early game.
For instance, you want your main damage dealer ( soon you should be getting a E+ belinda, you might consider her as well). The highest level as possible. Once you can no longer level up your damage due to ascensions requirement(or rest of the team needing more levels), you can level up the rest (so dmg dealer to max - > tank - > other heroes
if not - try this :
@copper stirrup that one worked for me in the end
😉 glad to hear
@wind jolt kinda OK
Rosa for Belinda?
э?
nope ;P look at picture above
I took the recommendation and i am still losing
Is it possible to thoran cheese this level?
Any help is greatly appreciated
Hard stuck
Thanks phantosmagor, I ended up beating it with the nemora setup.
gladtop hear
@copper stirrup thanks
Like who makes a game where you can't even continue playing
why?
So angry about this. I shouldn't be having this much trouble
This is AFK game . Today you can't, 1-2 days and you can 😉
does somebody want to help me with my 5 HoE/PvP lineups? (can pm me also)
Need some help
Bruh this the fourth time I post and ask for help every time i get no advice
@ripe finch
does E athalia work
why not ,she must only interrupt tasi banish
What relics? Drape on brutus, chalice on lucian, eye on athalia, call on rowan and blade on shem?
sounds good
aight thanks
@ripe finch also try this :
ok
Help mee guys please 😢
@real flicker
dam again upload error... wait
Look at left corner... server got some problems
this is useful combos 😉
Yo, any suggestion is appreciated
is your main carry...baden, or do you have 2 tanks leveled higher 0.0
Any advice to tweak this line-up? Wanna get those 90 purple stones. This line-up is based on replays
Safiya is dying before she can ult unfortunately. But was able to get the enemy down to just 1 Thane
Thanks! Lets aee if my +20 Safiya can handle this
Okay, no prob. Lemme see if i get it to work
Do you by any chance remember relics @copper stirrup
Merci
@slim imp
Need some help please!
@river sorrel can't cheese that unless you manage to kill ezizh first, which is probably kinda hard to fit into a cheese lineup
@sterile fog
going to balcony, can't use my program there 😉 Wish i will give it away in few days
In any case better it must be a web-based app... not for PC only 🙂
Any1 got any tips?
@supple zealot
worked for me. Spend maybe 20-30 retries
Mostly bcs eiron get interrupted with pull at the begining
K will try ty!
Think this is possible? Can’t touch Mirael before she wipes me.
This was my setup
can't copy that, but i could move safiya and khasos to see if retargeting them works...
first thing, you're not ulting (more than 5 obviously) right
@fickle loom sooo can u help me
...idk, there's plenty of guides out there already but you need to know what your problem is first. are you not dealing enough damage? are you dying? if you're dying, when? what % are you at right now?
Can i just dm u i hate the cooldown? If u want of course
you could, but you could get more ideas here rather than just me. up to you i guess.
@copper stirrup ty m8 i cleared it in 10 tries
Ok well my health on my heroes are in a good condition i guess but after a couple of sec my heroes are starting droping like flies and i got 58.4% @fickle loom also i usually get 45 - 32%
i would save your ults for rowan then, maybe like 3 shemira ults 2 rowan ults depending on how often you're dying. lucius doesn't really do much without his ult, i would put talene before lucius here.
if you're still dying, instead of rowan ult, use talene ult for even bigger heal i guess
@fickle loom any other hero to change for example lorsan or rosaline
some people say that grehzul or wu kong + 1 ult for their clones at the start helps, but i didn't really try that, and i feel like your clones would just die since they're not really ascended. lyca is a good option because her haste helps without ultimate.
Ok thanks
Any tips on how to stop this mehira from killing my team in 5 seconds?
@copper stirrup didn't work but appreciate it^^
I am getting fucking destroyed lol
I think I saw someone cheese 28-58 lol
Any help with this stage? I’d like to hit floor 200 😦
Instantly blown up so far
Dont have A thoran yet 😦 need 1 more copy
I need 2 more copies for A Thoran
@warped scaffold do u have rosa?
I do. 3rd row
oh nice, ditch arden and put rosa behind shem and lucius behind talene
thought its a very tough comp against shem, u might have to use athalia/nara to counter arden
its not even that, the Kaz is just doing so much damage
shes instant popping Talene and whoever is behind her
@warped scaffold do u have mehira?
@warped scaffold CC the arden, Rowan can go front vs kaz, or you can use brutus V kaz
Do not have Mehira unfortunately
@copper stirrup what artifacts for: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/736205299827867648/unknown.png
Yea its not awesome. Shemira generally dies before ulti goes off. ill keep running through and see if I can get lucky. Thanks guys
also u can try shem behind rosa so that she dodges kaz and rely on rng to ulti
@warped scaffold something like talene brutus lucius cchero (arden?) shem may work
Maybe tasi
It’s a tough stage
anyone have Lb 120 post Numi buff?
Am I underleveled?
dumb question, why Skreg in the backline?
It worked before, I kept trying to rotate every heroes
Sometimes putting tanks in back line can help make them last longer
And also if the enemy has a disruptor it can protect them from that
@warped scaffold
ill just fool around with it for a while. Im very close to pushing crystal, tons of copies just lacking fodder. 3 blue pulls for the last 6 or 7 10 pulls. its depression
New challenge incoming. So far 10 deaths. Any suggestions?
Hi guys, could you please help me with line up? I reset few heroes, campaign 8-4
Hard stuck
@mossy galleon u can try to switch oden with rosa
Help pls
@floral carbon SS your heroes
@scarlet seal didn't work.. Tried it.. Fereal wrecks my team
@mossy galleon u can try nemora mid then, might get ferael with mind control or some lockout like nara/ath
@floral carbon switch cecilia with athalia and lockout mira/saveas
@scarlet seal with oden it's the only time fawk coffins ferael
Ah I got it
@mossy galleon use nara on ferael
Tried that too.. But still sadly.. Thought I might use mythic eironn to pull him but doesn't work @scarlet seal
@gray geyser might be too late but here :)
@stuck trellis ahh thanks
And yes hendrik is lvl 1
Was there a strategy there or a mistake?
@mossy galleon mercenary then
No idea, I saw that someone used that exact comp (with the lvl 1) and it worked almost first try so i just went with it lol
u could probably use some other tank there, I honestly have no idea what the hendrik is for
I passed a few stages with hendrick E+
My crystal is only 200. Wonder if I can still do it
Thoughts on this stage?
@floral carbon same as before, switch cec with athalia and lockout
Cmon help me guys i need rush my max 😦
@floral carbon sure, u need to test different comps but generally when 1 opponent nukes ur team u need to lock him out
u can also use fawkes if u have him
Any clues? Should be able to beat since its maulers
Ah okay
Need help please! Stuck on this level for way to long now!
Thanks dude! I sadly don’t have fawks
@supple zealot send more of ur team
@ akayou try rowan, eironn, ferael, lyca, tasi
What position? I need to control that mehira cuz she destroys me first 5s if not attacked
Wont work eiron gets attacked instantly by ghost and mehira destroys the bottoms
Got any other tips i can try?
Tasi in Spot 2, lyca in 4, eironn in 5
Changed it but still same. Team gets destroyed by baden en mehira
What lineup would you use?Im currently at 8-12
This happens
I die need like 50 tries with that lineup @supple zealot
I am already over 50 :p been spamming all time
Can I get help with this.. Been a week and nearly every combo I can think of.. :/ thank you!
Help
forget pulling mehira with eironn without safiya field active it is oneshot no matter what's eironn gear or si @supple zealot
@lavish pollen got any tips i can try then?
gwyneth comp or maybe tasi rowan nemora ( charm safiya) ferael lyca @supple zealot
ive seen some peeps passing with charm
Ill try gwyn next week then... stupid that u can use mercs only 1 time..
This setup destroys me even harder lol. This new nimusu one shots me with a total. Way to many wilder on these maulers
To bad i went up from 28-22 to 28-58 in 1 day and now this 1 fight is harder than a boss fight lol
well its rng in the end , i think tasi is bigger problem than mehira somehow , every tp is -1 hero in your team 
Need help with a good line up for start/early game, chap 8 atm
@upbeat panther
Rosa
-Shem/Belinda
Rowan
-Lucius
Fawkes
Rate my hero formation on a scale of 0 to 100 don't mind the same though I'm about to get a level 180 mythic Izold. I'm just using Thane for the resonating Crystal.
Oops I meant to say don't mind the Thane not same
What about lucius?
@plucky apex your current formation has 4 tanks and 1 damage dealer, ideally you want to use 1 overleveled damage dealer, 1 tank, and 3 supports
I know and I'm trying to do that but the game won't let me.
can you show your heroes?
My Noble tavern won't let me get that.
have you put them on your wishlist?
Also are you saying that just because it's your setup or because it's a good setup?
it's a good general guideline, personally mine switches around a lot, but I always have 1 damage dealer, 1 tank, and 3 supports
Well yeah I do have two or three of those on my wishlist.
Are you able to access the game right now? It would be easier to help if I could see what heroes you have, and what you have on your wishlist
Also I used to think that Rowan sucks but after testing him just a second or two ago I realize that he doesn't so now he will be on my wishlist!
Rowan is legitimately one of the best heroes in the game, on par with celestials and hypogeans
I just realized what he can do for heroes energy and bring their special abilities out instantly
I actually just reached chapter 17 today
Should I go for Nakoruru SI+30 when she will be obtainable or there is no point without certain heroes?
@summer valve Nako +30 is good but I would probably build it from lab only
I would swap the last row middle dude against one who is strong against their comb
@woven skiff interrupt arden
Any thoughts on this one folks?
@toxic flame
@coarse cradle i got it with that lineup alreqdy but thanks for the help :)
@toxic flame I believe it’s Tasi. Shem is frozen nearly the entire match. After that it’d probably be Nemora
Hmm. Can you banish the tasi with fawkes?
Ideas how i can push this crap of a stage?
@toxic flame I can, I’m basically rotating units in and out for the Brutus
@onyx basin i just beat it yesterday with those heroes and 10 levels less so you can certainly do it
Ohhh wait nvm I cant read. I just cleard ch 27 not 28
pushed whole chapter for an hour xd
will spam more
Can someone help me out with this lineup?
is there a better thoran setup for this level?
Heres the rest of my heroes. sorry I didnt put it together.
@river sorrel Id put in shem so you get your 3 hero bonus. drop rowan.
Help? D:
Any1 a good pvp comp ?
Ideas? Been stuck for a while I just get melted
@river sorrel r u pulling niru? If not using Nara or kelthur to pull him would be good. Don’t need ferael
this might sound dumb but what formation @pale kettle
thanks ill give it some goes what artifact placement
@coarse cradle sorry for the late reply. I don’t have nara sadly and whenever kelthur flips him he fears thoran so he can never ulti
@river sorrel try eironn Lorsan rowan thoran kelthur
Can anyone help with a lineup? Not sure how much I should prioritize Elite + characters or faction bonuses.
@sweet copper mirael carry for now, but honestly you got quite bad pull, I suggest u reroll
pretty much everyone i see that did that floor with low rating used either safiya blast or thoran cheese. personally did it with safiya + ferael + tasi + rowan + talene but i'm not sure that's really optimal.
Thinking about swapping Estrilda out for Brutus and fawkes for saveas
@gilded pagoda For what stage?
Also, if you’re asking a hero question, then it’s best for #classic-questions
Well, not stage specific really, more early-mid game comp. like this comp usually can pass where I get stuck within like 6 hours or so or even a day
This channel is for help in stages and whatnot
Ah okay , sorry 😂
@gilded pagoda Ah, for mid game, try increasing one hero to carry you
Like, if heroes are 100, take one hero to 140
Most people use Shemira as the carry hero, but other heroes are available. Belinda, Saurus, Daimon and Wukong are popular choices.
Trust me, having one carry hero is better than trying to maintain an even level distribution for all heroes
Yeah, makes sense. I guess I wanted the skill bonuses/ they didn’t get one shot hahaha. Awesome, thanks for the help!
No problem
What relics should I put on everyone?
comes down to rng, such a cancer floor, I usually try shem with call, ferael eye, baden with the shield relic and grezhul grace
u might wanna switch out izold with thoran @lone grail
So frustrating. Any tips/idea?
use lorsan to link skreg and numi
Hey guys, how should i get past this level?
pull arden
With Eironn or Nara?
eironn
Aight lemme try
back left
try a rowan or tasi frontline, or even ferael front.
@next magnet didn't work lmao
hm, lemme look through heroes u have
ok try:rowan tasi - saf lyca eironn
also try that with ferael instead of lyca
the enemy still plowed me within 18 seconds
hm
should i just wait until ive leveled up decently?
try lots of comboes of cc heroes, eironn always needs to pull arden tho i think, u need to interupt mirael ult
nah u have plenty of power
its mirael
Is Mirael this powerful?
yes
damn
i did those levels with lucius combos, even if its not often recommended it worked for me.
so something like: lucius rowan - ferael lyca eironn
then why do the Miraels i get from LAB die so easily and output less damage than my heroes lmao
Heyo guys , I need some help on getting 100
cuz enemy mirael has huge stats
is that....fair?
Hey I need help getting to 100 on this
well....My Brutus killed everyone except Ogi...and got killed by Ogi
Help plz
eh i'll just get back to it once i can do it
100 tokens i presume from the Grotesque Mage
Look at the picture it shows grotesque
what was your highest?
did...you...read...the...boss...skills...
What skills
do you know that when your team does a 6th ultimate, the mage will go away

i suggest you only make ONE of your heroes do 5 ultimates
at around 5 or 4 seconds, press AUTO and try to deal as much damage before he goes away
make ur damage dealer do 5 ult, dont use twins
use your hero with the highest attack rating. Like Shemira
honestly at this level you can just slap your five highest attack ratings and do zero ults and still 100 lol
at 6 sec u press auto
Okay I’ll try brb :)
@fickle loom then why do i still end up at 80+ 😦
its best to use heroes with strong auto attack, and cecilia reduce damage, talene passive heal, rowan passive heal
too bad f2p players dont have talene lmao
even jsut at elite she works
yeah i guess i should specify ones with strong regular attacks
use 1 hero with strong ult tho
ive made Shemira use her ult only and i still dont get 100 lmao
rn my team is rowan cecilia eironn lyca athalia, i use eironn ults
OOOOO close!!
HOW MUCH?!
83 you guys rock
yep, same as me
suggestions?
on alt i get 80ish with e talene, A flora, shemira, belinda, rowan, ults on shem and flora
I wonder if I should make shemira use ult or athalia
perhaps shemira
@brave wagon ill dm u a few solutions
thanks @next magnet
also, does anyone's game lag on their phone when the mage makes his clone? lmao
i wouldn't know, i've never looked at the battle i just wait it out and see result ._.
Need help for this crap
look up (in chat) and go ask same person xD
i wouldn't know, i've never looked at the battle i just wait it out and see result ._.
@fickle loom damn, i wish i was like you
pi ill dm u aswell
Lol what a coincidence
Looks like im way above the average power limit/level people are fighting this stage
And im still struggling xd
are you just pushing?
i've been trying to do the mythic stall (failing a lot) and i'm basically at your level but a whole chapter behind. if i actually stalled properly, i would be 1.5 chapters behind, but i kept getting impatient and ruining it.
u should push, with new feild of stars theres no need to stall that much
do the 50 gem fast rewards each day
but pushing a whole 1.5 chapter to 28-60 would only add +20 primordial emblems a week? i don't really see how that's worth it?
Any ideas? Ive been hard stuck on this
hmm this is probably a question for questions channel
@sleek forge no, that's not how this channel works, read the pins.
Which channel should I go to
i think thats #classic-questions
@fickle loom i was stallin ch 26 half of it and whole ch 27 now i pushed almost whole ch 28 for a single night
also stalling level
why is 28-58 so hard T_T
Best setup for this?
Take advantage of faction bonus especially since you have so many dead units and shemira will be on your team sooner or later
@pale kettle graveborn*
@thorn tapir should I keep my fronts and change my backs
Help me
@slender ferry
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
Rosaline
Fawkes.
Spam attempts.
Call on tasi, the rest is whatever @brazen wadi
Finally thanks
@granite pier
maybe swaping lucius->shemira helps too . Just because your i squishy
What should my general lineup be?
Bet ty@copper stirrup ❤️
Need help pls, coffin on vedan
Anyway I should change my formation?
@hollow hatch have u tried charming ferael?
Also bel hitting vedan would b good to kill him ASAP
not had much luck, was getting closer with Arden there to root fereal/grezhul/vedan or fereal/vedan/estrilda
maybe charm fereal kill vedan then? if I leave one alone the other kills me
Yes
Fereal/Estrilda interupts Nemora
Make her faster xD
but then I need lyca xD
@hollow hatch 10-20 tries. Need to catch 2 ferael charm
no rowan?
@copper stirrup thanks actually getting pretty close if I use nemora rowan lyca backline might be able to get it, I think rowan heals and SI too strong to leave behind lol
Some idea
Need help pls
@pale kettle try this
Roslaina
Shemira
Rowan
Thoran
Fawkes
@pale kettle try this
Esabella
Shemira
Farael
Kelthur
Izold
wow thanks worked 1st try
New challenge incoming. Stuck at 6-12. Any suggestions?
Can someone help me?
Hello @empty lodge,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
@empty lodge you need to use a carry that works early game. Saveas or mirael are the best options. Level them so they are 20 to 40 levels higher than your team. I would also look at the guides as dyno mentioned
@real flicker get Rowan +30, build eironn, eironn +30, ferael +20, Lyca +20, tasi +15. You need to CC the ferael
@astral jay dont work i lose
@pale kettle borrow merc
Proof
@empty pulsar Thanks
hardstuck:[
@native oasis I'd look at adding a healer, Rowan or nemora. Saveas can also front line.
@I am@zenith marsh thanks mate
That was me, not ach haha. I was hoping you had gwyn, let me look at screens.
Eironn call mehira tasi eye safiya boom
Yeah you really wanna have call though because of the haste
The key to that stage is dealing with the safiya. Here is one you might be able to run with a bunch of retries.
Eye gives haste after crit call gives haste per base Stat
@empty pulsar my heroes are only lv 288 though
Ignore the levels :)
@mortal flax can you remember the general placement of the heroes?
I might have an eironn mehira lineup...one sec
Tasi facing baden rowan brut lyca on numisu for the one shots saf top
Nvm, mine is athalia mehira and whale...
xD
I tried that comp for 2 hours yesterday
Didn't work? Sad
Didnt work..
I'll try sherpa's comp for a bit and will let you guys know how I go
Maybe my saf and ferael are both 30
How old is that ss? @empty pulsar
Mike, do you have gwyn or athalia?
Athalia E+, Gwyneth Ascended +0 @empty pulsar
@empty pulsar do you know which artifacts were used?
Asking about the date because Numisu rework made this even more cancer
Let me get my gwyn comp. Cleared last week
it's too late to build a gwyn from scratch now though right?
well not too late, but it's gonna take months, especially for that athliaa
I dont have a Gwyn comp tho just the Gwyn 
Ah...
I have a gwyn from pre rework. And gwyn Arthur post
You could try someone else instead of Arthur though
Tried Eironn + Gwyn but you just cant pull on 1 and 2 when there is mages in the back.. its so damn frustrating the whip actually deals around 8-9m dmg in like 3-4 seconds
Numisu stages all need to be nerfed so annoying
Eironn rng can pull on slot 2 :)
Alright lemme give it a go... Ill use Rowan on 1 maybe
I'd try Rowan or see if a lucius can survive somehow haha
is gwen only usable after +20?
@brave wagon +20 is much stronger
I'm like 3 blue heroes off getting her to A
but I don't think that's enough rip xD
I'll just try hard thoran cheese it tmr then
We aint stopping now its 2 stages cmon 
Ok ill push alone then 
I think the Eironn was pulling on 2 because there the Arthur was speeding the first Gwyn arrow so Eironn wouldnt flinch, so far he isnt pulling with neither call nor chalice @empty pulsar
Any other ideas
I mean, suboptimally he can go bottom, slot 5. Not sure how it will work without trying it. Put eye on him. If you want to try him slot 2 use grace for more dodge rng attempts.
Looks promising 
nah I'm still pushing, just gonna try the thoran strat tmr xD
@mortal flax can you send me the sc of 28-60 so I can work out the comp you used for 28-58? xD
Its fera saf 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEcau676rTc how viable is this comp with lv288 lb team?
post rework too I think
Thats pretty overlevelled and the SIs are also pretty insane.. @brave wagon
Sry bad reception
I didnt see you with a built athalia so I didnt recommend it@brave wagon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em_xDAOwysw dude you can do this and progress @wheat saffron
you literally have everything
wth is wrong with that Baden
He turned around, who is charming.. no one is charming the baden what
this was like 3 days ago too
Baden is German for bathing so he literally sends you swimming
try it, you could get lucky too
woah... the heck? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExSgze_qkb4
lv 285 only too!
same overleveled low sig lb comp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiqHzs0NdA0
here's the same 'glitch' comp but with slightly higher hero levels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNLFE9ZxeS0
Один из сложнейших этапов, которые мне встречались в последнее время. Баден и Нумису просто ваншотят всех в начале боя, ушло много попыток
@wheat saffron maybe you can merc an ukyo to do this comp? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_KzcS7_1eM
If I had access to merc I wouldve got a Thoran lol 
nah sherpa's nem one doesn't work for me
Im stalling everyone with the Gwyn Farael comp but the Baden he just doesnt care I dont see how he is getting stalled in the replay
have you tried the nara one yet?
The Tasi, the Tasi is teleporting behind the Numisu making the Baden follow her instead of going for Gwyn 
that one looks promising (probs took that guy like 5 hours though), if you have a decent tasi and nara
HELL YEA @brave wagon @pale kettle
gl
told you that comp had potential xD
ty lol 
my lb athalia one is just getting deleted by the mehira lol
I mean that guy's heroes are like 50% stronger than mine
I feel your pain, looked nearly impossible to stop the Mehira, this was less than 10 attempts but it was crazy rng, the Mehira ulted backwards and my Saf ulted 2 times I think it was really lucky xd @brave wagon
my belinda actually survived more than 5 secs hooray!
Looking for a decent mid game lineup to get through some campaign kind of slowing down in chapter 6-35
@pale kettle use this
Flora
Lucius
Rowan
Tasi
Seveas

