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Ok
Ye ira too... 24-46 with ira/niru/bbelinda all oneshotting shemira was awful...legit only won that cuase shemira 2x ulted and then got banished by tasi
So this?
Sunshine do you own any rosaline?
With my luck no
Even E/E+ is good
Are my levels too low? I keep getting beat there
280 in ch 25 seems overleveled if anything, imo
tasi is such a cancer counter for shem, just got to play like 100 times for perfect nrg with rosa/shem
i don't think so, your team just isn't coherent...
rng*
Let's go i won because of shamira
What should i use, i just want to get to 25-60 for the scrolls and the tier 2 stone
She killed 4 enemies
@pale kettle pic with all your heroes pls
@scarlet seal whenever I see tasi I just put call on shemira/rosa to make sure she gets to ult
Could anyone help out pls?
@serene moss you just passed a stage. Please try to push further alone. Asking for comps in all stages takes the fun away
mirael -> quick burst to take her down (talene is not)
arden -> either nemora charm or nara/athalia/eironn single target block
other: lyca for faster ults, tasi for cc, rosaline/rowan for support...idk what you have you didn't list heroes
Ok @outer notch
Why does it say i have explicit content?
im using blade mostly on shem otherwise lacking dmg cus im pushing so hard
When trying to post a picture? Idk it's bugged. send it to me and ill post it for you Archi
Done
most of the time the key to shem team succeeding is getting faction bonus, otherwise u get melted
Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
i remember using full LB team through to mid chap26 and i've only ever had to wait for mythic stall
most of the time the key to shem team succeeding is getting faction bonus, otherwise u get melted
@scarlet seal Only if you're super underleveled and not even then. Sometimes I Shemira Rosa Rowan Lyca tasi
2 tries idk why they don't get to ult with full energy
im always underleveled cus when I was getting to ch 24 every1 else on the map was 20 levels higher than me
Keep trying a few times. 2 is not relevant enough tbh
Forgot what stage, but I almost won in 1st try, lost in a 1v1 at the end, then I got stomped for like 30 attempts. It's all rng..
Did it, thanks
Cleared?
Lineup help stuck in chapter 9 trying to muscle through.
His roots keep screwing me over
@pale dagger stop ascending stuff randomly. Not only you ascended 2 of the weakest heroes in game, but also can't take them to L+ :S Only ascend if you have 4 copies (applies to ascended heroes, not for fodder)
As for the roster, go for Saveas + Brutus + flora and Wukong (I see you dont own one. You have to press the "Share on facebook" button, you dont have to actually share, just to press it)
Agree. Chapter 9 is like what, 1 week progress? You're better off starting a new one imo..
Whatβs the best line I can do?
zyph, very easy, its so early game, rickety cart everything and just lvl wukong as much as u can
honestly untill level 120 u wont have to think about anything
why does everyone say upgrade wu kong
I also hate him, but he is just godlike earlygame
its not even a question, u just outlevel him untill 120 cus he gets stuck being only Elite ascension
100*
ok thx
yeah soz π
And yes. Wukong is both your tank and dmg dealer until lvl 100 ^
Does anyone have a screenshot of using wilder + eiron/saf/fera/nara to beat 28-22?
I really need assistance, I think Iβm about to fully give up on the chapter
Is this the best as well here? I keep dying because of arden rooting
Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Tasi
@pale kettle
@pale kettle eironn M+ isn't that great especially at 20SI. i would slot a lucius in front line to see if he can hold the front longer or just swap out safiya for belinda (since vs mauler; otherwise i would probably use ferael)
@pale kettle
Nemora
Lyca
Nara/Athalia/Estrilda
Tasi
Shemira
ill try it out, what would you recommend for artifacts then?
i like tasi with call and main dps with eye, lucius with chalice helps him in frontline if he's dying, otherwise i think it's worth just experimenting with whatever you're actually using
@outer notch thanks to you i managed to beat 25-60
I'm really struggling against the Eiron+Ferael wilder PvP team with my oldschool Lucius, Shemira, Ferael, Rowan, Fawkes team.
Can anyone with more experience suggest me another team for PvP? Can't really practice against guild members :c
(Talene is +29, Orthros is probably too squishy before Mythic)

@outer notch thanks to you i managed to beat 25-60
@pale kettle Np
@fickle loom oh my god thank you so much, I actually beat it, I stopped using lucius cuz people said he was bad at this point. thank you thank you thank you. But now my problem is, so far, everytime I beat I stage, I get stuck again for 2 weeks 3 stages later, and 25-26 isn't even a boss stage
seconding the struggle against eironn in pvp >_> i lean towards skipping that fight whenever i can even if my own eironn team can SOMETIMES beat it...very RNG dependent though. if anyone has good advice, i'd love to hear it too...
Rerolling is going to be the way to go huh π©
Lucius isn't bad when you've got levels
Rerolling is going to be the way to go huh π©
@pale dagger Dont bother going for more than 3 rerolls. As long as it's not twins, it doesnt matter enough...
You do it just to get slightly better things than what you had and not to the same early game mistakes. Check pinned in #classic-questions, should have some guides for beginners
grats! i'm in ch27 and still using lucius. xD then again i'm overleveled af from stalling so i haven't even had to second-try stages or change teams in a long time.
imo getting your second 30 SI, whoever it's on (ferael or eironn or whoever else) and using it as your main dps will make the climb a lot smoother until you're stuck mythic stalling like me too.
@pale kettle you should start farming, by using the mythic gear trick logic, thats what I do, I only push at the last day of the week and use merc on boss level so I dont get stuck for a week
after every 2 days I beat 1 stage
i think the idea is to start stalling in ch26 because that's when you get t2 stones? it's doesn't hurt to start earlier for base gear though.
@fickle loom oh my god thank you so much, I actually beat it, I stopped using lucius cuz people said he was bad at this point. thank you thank you thank you. But now my problem is, so far, everytime I beat I stage, I get stuck again for 2 weeks 3 stages later, and 25-26 isn't even a boss stage
@pale kettle What I've learnt in the last 2 days pushing ch 24 is that being a boss stage really doesnt matter anymore...Cleared a few boss stages first and 2nd try but normal one 100+ retries
Im stuck here helpp
Starting fresh this is my Hero pool, what would be a good line up for me to focus on?
2 saurus and a tasi what the f I want that acc...
Also focus wukong (monkey) early game (up to lvl 100). Over level him over other heroes. super strong
stop making everything purple, go read the beginner guides with "beginner mistakes" or something like that to know what to avoid
I pulled everything elite except saveas
elite angelo and hogan 0.0 are you THAT unlucky with purple stones or what lol
Wdym stop making everything purple?
@zenith violet for now you can run
Flora
Kong
Rowan
Belinda
Tasi
I recommend building Saveas though, also keep your carry (belinda) 20 to 40 levels higher than everyone else
Angelo I got Hogan is from daily login
Hogan elite is free for bebginners man
And making everything elite isnt bad, going L with heroes you cant build further is a bad idea
@dull prairie avoid making heroes L you cant make L+. You lack a leveled esrly game carry right now, I would get Saveas E+ 120 as soon as you can.
ah, been too long. still, don't ascend too many things, especially beyond E+. your goal is L+ not L.
Btw @zenith violet look for example Wishlist so you dont get subpar heroes
Thx@empty pulsar! At what level does saveas start work as a cary? And should I overlevel bekinda instead of wukong?
@zenith violet elite is bad as well. It's better to save your R+ fodder until you can go E+ for best efficiency.
I got my wishlist set up @outer notch π
Yes, Belinda at this point. Saveas will carry you for a while. Get him L+ ASAP.
basically,
goal: E+
not goal: E
goal: L+
not goal: L
And dont forget
Goal: A
Not goal: M/M+
except rowan M, every account needs a minimum of rowan at M π€£
How would you start spread the levels between that lineup? Level everyone up to 61 and get belinda higher?
I was glad I got one rowan, hopefully I can build him to M and unlock sig early on π
pre lv80 i think 10 level difference is enough, after that like a 20 level different (carry: lv100, everything else: lv80), some people like a 30~40 diff after 160 ish but i didn't do that
I do 40 levels on new accounts. I've also seen ch 25 cleared without Rowan. :)
Nice thx for your help guys π
E+ saurus, thats so lucky
Ye that was a good start!
E+ saurus and a tasi..
I'd just keep opening wilder from the start and make it a wilder acc
Ouch π¦ nobody likes me
im using E saurus in king's tower and its super effective
KT or FT?
Help plz, stuck and feel like im doing everything wrong. My plan was to lvl everyone to 121 but gonna take forever, what to do and what lineup?
Put nemora on the same line with saveas
@outer notch u mean me?
Yes
Yes
@outer notch Yeah thanks but that doesnt really tell me much, i only have gear for either lyca or saveas. And what about the rest
Just retry the stage with the same comp but put the lamb on position 5 and belinda on position 4..
Heh I have no idea what position is what number :p
Swap nemora and bbelinda with eachother
Barely a difference but thanks though, any1 else?
@ornate iris gwyn isn't that useful at that point, try a CC like tasi or nemora
@modern cobalt i would put eironn opposite safiya but if you've had success with saveas then i guess keep him there. wouldn't use lucius with that team, ferael vs safiya would be useful to keep her down.
Idk how to beat this
@pale kettle what are you talking about? There is no nemora
But who is in the back
Take your heroes off and you will see positions are numbered
Yeah but ypur shamira id ascended
I don't have tasi cause i used her to get lyca to mythic
wtf
So who can i switch
Fawkes ig
So who can i use instead of tasi
Lyca and shamira in the front right?
Ok
Ok
Like that?
Or switch lyca and shamira
For faction advantage
@pale kettle 28-33 and kt 365 if you done it
Thanks guys managed to push out to Chap 26!
@pale kettle Ty that actually worked! When i got the heart above fareal(from nemora's skill) i just sweaped the team
Now me plz. Tried both lineups but no luck :/
Should i use mehira in my team?
Should i use mehira for her amazing ult?
How do you have all of the pics to stages
My only celes/hypo are: wu kong at legendary and one more elite copy of him, flore at elite+ talene at elite twins at elite and mehira at elite
Is there anyone that doesn't call twins twins but calls them in their names? Cause their names are so wierd
Noone that can help me?
Any ideas? Cheers
Yeah all the clears look the same I guess I have to do that ;-;; thank you @pale kettle
Nevermind then
@pale kettle ty i got to stage 19-1 thanks to you
@limpid valley its kinda hard to help u, you have ascended too many heroes to L, you're gonna be stuck very soon
but replace shem with arden
I might need some help will you be able to help me? (Not rn) @pale kettle
@scarlet seal yeah I know, misread a guide and messed up. Managed to clear with this tho
yeah gj, who are you buying from lab store?
Mention him so he will see it @scarlet seal
@limpid valley soz lol, thought he was still here
@scarlet seal well idk yet, with a shemira i can ascend her to epic+ but with another nemora i can l+ her
@pale kettle do you know how to beat that stage?
Nara the Mirael @serene moss
That's smart
@limpid valley shem carry is popular but in ur case u need to do some maths so u dont get stuck, might have to go for belinda since its already at L, depends on pull rng
But i need a good team cause i still get destroyed
I need to change it a bit and put something in the mid
Hi, Iβm trying to pass this but I canβt :((
@scarlet seal What do you mean, i cant buy Belinda from lab store, its either nemora for l+ or shem for e+ and even wukong for e+, idk :/
I would reset Belinda and make Farael 220, then reset Rowan and make Lucius 220, then use Shemira Lucius frontline with Estrilda Rowan Farael on the back @spark agate
@wheat saffron thank you! I would try it
@wet lodge what I mean is the carry u want to choose, I also went from Nemora at the beginning cus most guides say so, but now that I think back id rather pick wukong
Try putting Lyca and Oscar instead of Lucius @serene moss
u cant level past 140+ if u dont have L+ hero
@wheat saffron instead of lucius and?
You already have a slot open in the last screenshot you sent @serene moss
Oh ok
@spark agate u can try ferael instead of thoran
@wheat saffron who should i put better gear on? Lyca or oscar
@scarlet seal Yeah idk, i will see if I get lucky with pulls and manage to ascend them without lab store, if not i might go nem
Oscar @serene moss
@serene moss the wilder comp doesnt work anymore?
Oh should i use it?
ofc, untill ch 21 at least arden is very effective with shem, especially if u dont have the best ascensions
You can run
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
This one?
yeah exactly
depends who is the biggest threat, u can keep the idea of the comp, meaning that rowan and shem are in front, but u can move others around
what is failing? who is dying?
estrilda is prolly destroying everything and isabella just 1 shots
u can discard oscar and switch rowan with shem so u grip isabella, instead of oscar maybe talene, always an option, sometimes the heals save u
gj π
What's gj?
Oh god there is a lightbarares team (well only 4) but shamira doesn't get a ult
show π
lyca is so annoying cus they get haste advantage, for first u can switch oscar and lucius, I always put lucius behind talene, if it doesnt work then I start switching like crazy
hahaha, im glad, ive been tryharding so much to beat a few levels I already know who counters what π
Shamira just destroyed that team
@serene moss you should stop making so many M/M+ and L heroes. It puts you very far behind on fodder.
I have lots of fodder to ascend
Oh no my worst enemie is here.... A full wilders team.... Shamira will get destroyed and my best mauler is a mythic skreg...
But you dont need M/M+. Very few cases where building a M/M+ that you can't take to A is appropriate.
No. Definitely not nara, and ferael is only for specific circumstances after you have at least 5A
What should i do vs a whole team of wilders
I want to use safiya but she is only at elite+
dunno, thats what I did and its working out great, I ascended shem first and now Ferale and Nara are on mythic cause im waiting for copies
Just use shem and interrupt arden if one exists
@empty pulsar why would u not take ferael and nara to M?
@scarlet seal it wastes L+ fodder that you could have used elsewhere to take a hero A
Definitely not Nara, I'm assuming you are pre 25/26 so not ferael either
well for graveborn before daimon's release, the most general tier list is definitely shem > ferael > nara if ur 200+
u just dont have anything else to spend it on so ofc u take it to M and if u lack copies
No. Definitely not. That is not good advice at all and wastes L+ fodder
or thoran cheese
Can someone help me oof
what would u do for gb then?
How can i beat that wilders team
@serene moss u might get stuck there, its so cancer comp, try ath/nara on arden
Save fodder until you have copies to take heroes A...saving fodder is never bad.
That's 2 L+ fodder = 1A if you have 8 copies.
@scarlet seal still loose cause of that stupid kaz killing me
yeah, guess ur right there, but if u did ur math and u got 500 embles going to waste, id definitely get them to M while waiting for fodder, if I didnt I wouldve been stuck so far behind
i need some help plz
@serene moss do you have nara or athalia?
I have nara but kaz kills her
@scarlet seal no, you wouldn't. 500 emblems going to waste? Saved emblems until you have useable heroes to spend them on is not a bad thing.
well the reason why I did that was because I was already lacking copies and I had so much fodder waiting, I knew for sure Id ascend nara and ferael
that gave me so many options in pvp, tower and campaign
@serene moss the goal on those levels is to CC the arden, try some variations with nara top :)
So use nara on the arden but than my team gets demolished
Shem can also go front. Sometimes you have to just keep retrying the level
Nara
Rosa
Shem
Rowan
Lucius/fawkes/tasi if you have them
Could also work
I don't have rosa...
Who can i use instead of rosa
I have lucius and fawkes so who is better to use
I dont have enough damage to kill the healers in time
flora maybe instead of tasi if u dont have survival problems
Shamira will destroy this stage
even with her being only legendary?
worth a shot ill try flora and then swap to shem
Try using her(shamira) instead of saveas
forget shemira cus shes only legend, she will do low dmg unfortunately
@serene moss shemira is only great when you can overlevel her
But she is still better than saveas
@limpid quail do you know how to beat this stage?
saveas is good old school carry, especially with brutus π
It's a full lightbarares team... He isn't good vs that
switch shem with rowan and nara on top
at low level you just dont have that many options, his carry is saveas, nothing else wont work, he has to rickety cart everything to try
anything*
Idk how to beat this
switch shem with rowan and nara on top
@scarlet seal
na wait, I mean, lucius and talene down and rowan in mid
@serene moss saveas is actually better than shemira until she reach 161
Ideas?
About what?
@serene moss can u post all of your heroes?
You can try using talene instead of Lyca @worthy spire
@worthy spire try ferael instead of saf or u can cheese it
Stuck here for 3 days any help is appreciated
Brutus shield is too much for cheese since I don't have +30. Brutus x2 wrecks eironn obviously
@bright sleet try shem Lucius Rowan Rosa ferael
@worthy spire can you do the lock team with twins as merc?
Well yes youβd have to merc a +30 thoran
I'll give it a shot.
Oh good eye didnβt see the talene heh
You wanted a picture of all of my heroes@coarse cradle
@worldly wharf rickety cart saveas and level every1 to the same level
@worldly wharf and use flora for example instead of saveas, keep mira as carry
@worldly wharf you'd rather over level your carry tbh rather than spreading your ressources across all heroes
Issue is I can't get anyone but eironn and Gwen to mythic
@worldly wharf I see u have ascension problem, otherwise oculd ascend eironn
Ezizh still needs ascension. He dies so quick
@serene moss shem talene arden rowan lyca
So I am level capped kinda
@worthy spire ferael instead of ezizh and tasi instead of mehira
Both are great at mythic tbh, and you'll need to get at least 5 lythics to get a higher crystal level
In that order from 1-5?@coarse cradle
Yea
I've started a gathering account and these heroes ive got so far but what would be the best line-up?
wow you actually made me win @coarse cradle
gz
Who should i put in the missing spot?
Still no dice unfortunately. I'll keep trying it though and hope for good RNG! lol
Thanks for the help!
I won already
Lol if you can beat it in <10 tries usually not worth posting here
Help idk what to do here
Pls help me I'm stuck
@serene moss you get stuck on every stage or what? π
._. Im never getting help cause of him bruh
@true hound try using bellinda instead of shemira / tasi instead of thoran
xd
Oke
@scarlet seal XD yeah
@still rune should i wait to get a bit higher lvls? cause my team just gets obliterated on this stage.
You're fine level wise tbh / try fawks instead of tasi and see if that helps (belinda/Lucius/rosa/rowan/fawkes)
Swap their position around and see what's most functional setup with these heroes @true hound
ok
@true hound nice avatar PepeBruh
Any ideas? Thx
Its impossible to deal with the cc
Not sure what to do here, help would be appreciated!
@still rune tnx i somehow got the perfect rng and got it
Just beat 28-4 with this comp hope it helps someone
@cursive shoal try this
Fawkes
lucius
Rowan(grace)
belinda(blade)
Rosa(call)
Assuming you have fawkes
I donβt have fawkes π’ @solar stag thanks for the tips
Do you have a talene?
No
Who did you stargaze for at 16?
Twins
Oh okay
You really only need one copy of the twins for a while
But you'll get talene eventually, she helps a lot
Try what I said with ferael instead, with eye on him
Anyone knows a good team to beat this?
Hero list?
RIP no rosa
Maybe try
Talene
shem
Rowan
lucius
Fawkes
My fawkes is only e+
Some heroes are good at low ascensions until later on
Shemira as a carry is a amazing front line hero, fawkes and talene help a lot
Ok
That's a bit scary... Tested it and it destroyed my team
I need to use lyca 100%
Sunshine u wonβt learn unless you try diff teams yourself
Switch the bottom with the top @serene moss
@cursive shoal try Belinda Rosa Rowan Lucius athalia
What is the ideal lineup setup? Like what slot do I place tanks, supports and dps heroes?
Depends on the stage
I beat it using nemora and mind controlling farael
@serene moss nice!
Ty
pls help!
List?
How is that possible? I'm at stage 19 and have no ascended heroes
World 19
Who should I put in my lineup
Any tips ? How to pass this stage :D
@scenic halo
Talene
lucius
Rowan
shemira
Rosa
How is that possible? I'm at stage 19 and have no ascended heroes
@serene moss I'm like you and idk
Oof



How should I
that's such a good emoji XD
Who should I put in my lineup
my shem just dies before getting ult off @solar stag
@scenic halo did you retry a few times?
ill keep retryinf
@azure oasis spamming the question isnt going to help much, I'd just over level your wukong to 100
Before all your other heroes
I just started playing a few days ago and I have no idea what to put in my team. I also have an E+ Brutus that's not in this picture.
not brutus, the dude that begins with a g and next to my arden
Any suggestions?
Who can help me? I'm stuck in this level for a long time
Send a pic of all of your heroes
I just pulled him, any tips or recommend strategies for him?
Ideas
Any ideas?
@pale kettle 28-40 probably have to wait for merc for this one
Please help me with this... 10-40. Thank you so much!
Hi guys! Iβm stuck at 9-37. Any suggestions on whom to level up and use π
been stuck at 11-35 for a few days now, should i level my saveas to 160 first or do something else?
Ferael destroys me
@fading marsh
Level Lucious and Belinda
They cap at 140 currently for you.
Severely under leveled is your issue.
But this is from a noob, take it with a grain of salt π€ͺ
Come on lads.. Need haaalp!
tower 325
help pls
Ideas for a PvP team?
no sav is still fine its just a tanky stage
I tried wilder back with saveas/mezoth feont
also i wouldnt put him across ankhira
What do you suggest i do with my heroes and the lineup
Jack, try full wilder comp with sav
idk i havent played in lower chapters in a loooong time... definitely arden and sav though
Ou ngm
u can try tasi as silv bait aswell if she survives the stab
Lol i finished it right as i asked haha i moved saveas up and put in tasi
oh nice
Any thoughts? This is the closest I've gotten 200+ resets
@keen shale use Fawkes instead of belinda
Also is rosa following your rowan or your shemira? o.o
Pls help me XD I'm stuck
@serene moss i wouldnt put shem across grez - grez can steal 30% of shems attack rating
So what should i do
who gets coffined by fawkes? shem?
Let me check
@keen shale tasi doesnt work? instead of one of your carries?
or does silv just onehit her?
Pray you get a rosa so you can somewhat get less affected by fawkes/tasi 
idk exactly. an idea that i have (no clue if it works tho) is to run lyca front vs grez, move fawkes to bottom back, shem goes top left, remove lucius and add nara in middle
that way you can also control hypo mage (idk if he is an issue or not) so lineup would be rowan lyca shem nara fawkes
idk if it works tho its just what i think might be helpful
I get demolished
hm can u show the defeat screen? so that we can see who is the guy dealing the dmg
Ok
idk if your lyca has enough dodge to dodge at frontline and survive so idk
@pale kettle got KT 300 shemira carry?
so its vurk and shem hm... @serene moss did fawkes even coffin?
Yes
Obviously I donβt know what hell Iβm doing ... could use some help... got to this point by not really following a strategy but I feel I need one going forward
hm
might need shem frontline then for her to stack energy
u can also try nara on vurk maybe - or arden if you need cc
@serene moss u still at it :D
Whole day π
Took so long to find the right team
Do you have talene? I did whole ch.19 using the same 5
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Talene
Lucius
Only thing that could change was swapping Rosa/Lucius and shemira/talene
I don't have rosa cuz of my luck
Yeah, I need one more copy to ascend her and she refuses to appear, I'm so tired
Not that... I don't have her at all
@scarlet seal you were near me in campaign, where are you kt?
@serene moss ey nice! gratz! seems like nara and fawkes were helpful together. didnt think about oscar cuz i dont have him so idk how good he is
Any mods here today?
Ferael destroys me.. Nemora doesn't work either
24-57, but im farming, at the end of the week ill go to 25
@lime quiver what can i use instead of rosa?
I said KT :P And why the f are u farming at 24-57 instead of 25-1 when 25-1 gives you FoS +30% mythic??
10-40 causing probs. For me... :/ any ideas? Thanks in advance
Cus I cant push yet, i dont want to get stuck
Well I didn't want either, and I still wasted 2 days or so for pushing instead of farming
26 might be hard, although it's a huge milestone (farming t2), but 25 is good as well since FoS
That takes a lot of time tho π
Try what I said above @scarlet seal, swap Rosa with Rowan, otherwise Lucius is most likely to drink the mana pot
No ideas for a ferael except nemora?
@mossy galleon i usually either use nara, nemora, athalia or tasi (if she banishes fera) to deal with fera
@lime quiver yeah but rowen is already in the team, what do i use instead of rosa
but nemora is like super super super rarely
@serene moss idk, sometimes I bring Fawkes and I drop rosa
You've got like 500k over what I had @scarlet seal you're not getting stuck buddy :P
@meager sedge my fawks coffins shemira.. I'm using nara but he's able to unleash fear and ghosts tho
Thx I'll try that
put better gear on nara
Btw 24-57 to 24-60 are all variation of that comp. Only thing is position difference and 60 tasi instead of fawkes
there are 2 pieces for strength that give accuracy - make sure she has the best pieces for those 2
@meager sedge using full L+ and 1 mythic.. But she's only elite +.. I can make her L+ but I wanna save for asc ferael
ascension doesnt influence accuracy
accuracy comes from gear, etc. so its best to put your best str gear on her (as i said there are 2 pieces that give u accuracy)
@meager sedge okay ill try that.. Thanks
Ok im just gonna go 25 brb :D
@mossy galleon its weapon and boots
Dm if you want the clear pics Rainer
@meager sedge ahaa ill swap lucius ones then
I think some floor between 285-290 had 2 athalia's
I just went
Shemira
Rowan
Rosa
Lucius
Talene
@meager sedge what about my current roaster.. Can it push to 20 or needs lvls and asce
chap 20 definitely was doable with lvl 200 shem, idk how well it works with bel
@meager sedge I see.. Thanks
Ye but it was 2 athalia 2 thoran now it's 2 thanes T-T
bel needs more of a team than shem does. also make sure to work on your eironn he is an insane carry!
Im stuck here hellpppp
@meager sedge he's only missing food for ascended
nice nice... i would also get his +30 really soon (probably after rowan)
@dull prairie use neko and ur set
Neko instead of
Oki
Can someone form a team from my heroes to beat this stage please
F....
Shemira shouldn't be near Brutus, she usually procs her immunity once he's almost ready to ult and he deletes her, you can try
Shemira
Lyca
Rowan
Talene
Lucius
@mossy galleon still loose whit nako );
Can someone help me out please
I still lost but it was so close... @lime quiver
If it was close it's just a matter of keep retrying, I think I've retried 100 times to finish 35 stages and that's not much
Yeah i just won ty π
hey guys which heroes should I ascend next? https://imgur.com/a/iky4pY1
Nara definitely but thoran will also be useful for some stages
ok, what about the other factions, looks like it only loaded 1 image from the album
I need recommendations, Iβve hit a wall and donβt know if Iβm just retarded or not
Pls help me I'm stuck AGAIN
@formal sierra I would say make sure you have your Wu Kong in the resonating crystal to make sure he stays at higher levels because he is a really useful hero at high levels.
For starters
@fallow mulch he is solid, I will admit, but I opted to not use him because I donβt see him in my end game, but I may just have to give in π
@formal sierra I would also say to have your 2 legendary heroes in your front lineup as well
And then all the elites in the back and see how that works out
@scarlet seal i need your help XD
Me?
Yes
Someone help me out please
@cunning wren I would say have Belinda, Lucius, & Nemora for your legendaries, then Try having Wu Kong and the Twins in your lineup as well
Tried this, didn't work
I just got a real lucky 10x roll and pulled Safiya, Rosa and a 2nd tasi that made me question what my focus should be from here on, should I make mirael my L+ cary later on nownthat I pulled a rosa? Or is Saveas good with rosa aswell?
@serene moss Put Talene in the middle of the back and take out that demon lady (sorry I don't know her name) that you replaced with Talene and put in Wu Kong for a replacement
Yeah this team worked
Reposition, @serene moss mehira behind shem
But i still won
wow you still here asking for advice
Yep cat :D
Is rhis lineup ok or should i change someone?
could anyone help me w this π
@pale kettle i think its great if you get copies just stick to those 5 they all good late game
@fallow mulch not working
Oof I'm stuck againn
@Sunshine dude just try diffrent combos by switching places you dont need to come here and ask for advice all the time
Oof i tried teams
You need to try a team more times cause its basicly an rng game
Anyone late game with a clue?
Tried using Nara against the safiya or any other cc that can target her?
Tysm
@scarlet seal how high ascension do you need?
Mythic or higher :)
Whats your ingame nick? I'll see if I have any inactive friends
usually I put Nara up against Mehira
Give me your Id, your name sir is not unique π
Btw is raine any good or is she just the same as fodder?
She is terrible but idk if I would fodder her
ah ok
@scarlet seal sent you a request
Ye give me a sec Ive already lent him out trying to figirr out how to take him back
I returned one and its still stuck for like 3 days π
Sorry just got the answer I cant lend him out again,
yes once lend out he is unavailable for this week even if he gets returned
Unfriend me if you find someelse that has him, or trybagain next week π
Its fine, we can be friends lol
Did you finish 24?
Aaw haha
Also, still LF KT 300 with Belinda/Shemira carry
hard to find someone with Saraus now better try sunday/monday
Yeah, switched around and got it done, didnt take much time :D
kk nice
Persona u got saurus? :D
Only E+ Gotta build eironn first :S
Is saveas still best cary in my line up if I pulled a rosa aswell?
I'm at 19-35 yay
Imo mirael then cause mirael 2 ults with rosa
I was thinking about that too, I pulled belinda x2 aswell but mirael feels better to l+ before i have more belinda copies
belinda doesnt feel good to L+ anyway
I feel stuck with an L+ belinda just cause i need gwyn..
You probably got belinda x2 from the 7 days reward....
No Im at day 3
Oh so if you get to day 7 that's very good
Belinda maybe any1? :D
Oh damn I just pulled twins from 60 shards aswell π you want to merc a belinda?
What's shards? Are you talking about souls?
No epic soulstones
Can u put blade?
That's what i just said... Soul =soulstone
@zenith violet
Oh sorry, then yes
π
Yes give me a sec @scarlet seal
Who's blade?
Artifact
He wanted me to put duras blade on belinda before he mercs it
Nice thx
Why do you want the belinda@scarlet seal
How do you have blade already if you are only 3 days in?
What do u mean by 3 days
He said he only played for 3 days
@meager sedge yeah Tasi gets one shot
No lol
No Im at day 3
@zenith violet here
Wrong pic sec
@serene moss its a second account
@serene moss 40
@serene moss 40, chapter 20 onwards have 60
So I'm close to chapter 20
Help please : )
I'd rather put athalia vs arden tbh
So put athalia instead of lyca?
Ah, I mean kasgasm
Nah pippi ur athalia isn't strong anymore at your level
Lyca
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Shemira
for you pippi
If it doesn't work, a talene in front of lucius instead of lyca behind him
So
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline
Talene
Lucius
okay ^^
Can someone help me? I tried a couple of teams but they don't work..
Been doing it around 15 times now and nth's working >_<
@serene moss Arden is probably giving you trouble on this stage so maybe you got anything that can counter him?
@stuck trellis lyca lucius shem Rowan Rosa
rowan isnt 221, still frontline him?
@floral carbon try Lucius Rosa lyca Rowan Belinda. You can also try swapping lyca for nemora to charm arden into rooting his team
Okay thanks ^^
And if ppl r dying try them in diff spots
Oh and should i ascend lucius or rosalina to L+?
Err lineup I suggested is spots 1-5 so rowan is back middle
oooh ok
ah okay
@floral carbon u can post your heroes in #classic-questions for ascension help
How do I stop the silvina? She keeps stealing energy from shem and rosa
Fera also one shots my team while silvina stops me from casting
Donβt put shem across from Silvina..
You can put Rosa across from Silvina since Rosa dodges the dive well. Try Fawkes and hope he coffins fera or at least purifies spirits. Or charm ferael with nemora @stuck trellis
;-;
@charred wyvern did you try normal LB comp? Belinda Rosa Rowan Lucius Fawkes
And try not to make so many L heroes...
I actually tried this and that
Oh you donβt have lucius. I guess thoran instead...
Just try it and move heroes around as needed. Thatβs how you learn π
For example if Belinda is dying. Swap her with Rosa
Who should I have in the crystal? I have two open slots (and could shuffle things)
If ulmus is trapping them swap with thoran and Fawkes
Keep getting stuck on 10, usually seems like those two won't let me get to the backline fast enough
Who can help me?
Is this doable at 299 or will I need to level up higher?
@floral onyx sure
Can any1 lend me grezhul or baden pls?
Best wrizz team?
Whatβs the best lineup I can do?
Event mage help please?
How do i beat this? Im even mercing a guildmates ascended shemira i just get banished twice and rooted twice then silenced
Drop Baden and use nara to pull the arden, that should deal with the roots
Hm ok
Could I drop oden instead(
I have baden in crystal atm for the oden boss gonna needa use 100 gems to switch nara in
Try and experiment lol. I would keep Oden for his energy drain tho
Ok i did it i just did the oden boss first and will reset for tmr thanks
Assistance greatly appreciated. I lose this match in 12seconds btw
@west solar
Rosa
-Shem
Rowan
-Lucius
Lyca/Tasi
Instead of Lyca/Tasi I tossed Ferael. Worked out :D ty
Iβm stuck on 11-38, any advice would be appreciated.
@wispy summit try
Rosaline
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca/Tasi
ideally belinda will kill saveas mirael and the mauler dude in 1 shot. Lyca to speed your team up, and tasi to banish Estrilda if she runs you over too fast
@woven skiff rowan, eironn, saf, tasi, lyca
You could swap Rosaline and Rowen for Tasi and Nemora. If their damage is too high you need CC
Then it's just RNG to get Nemora to charm the right person and Tasi to block the right person π€·ββοΈ
Iβm stuck ?
Hey guys Iβm stuck on this stage. Any help appreciated!
Help
umm i've made program to make compilation lemme see how it will looks here:
@haughty tide you can try thoran cheese at least,
Thatβs what Iβm trying
smthg like this:
Sure? Let me try
@fathom estuary
idea to "eiron" get banished/coffin/sleep. And athalia will control the grandfather :p
Tasi banishes Ira
So you will have coffin now
sorry, no, she does banish Eironn, but his vortex one shots Fawkes and Ferael before they can do anything since the banish comes after vortex
u can try thoran cheese too
I used this
I tried, but my Attack Rating was too low with a cheese comp π¦ Anyway, I'll give this a couple dozen tries to see if I can get Fawkes and Ferael to dodge vortex simultaenously
Ferael scared arden and Nemora charmed him so he would give the torn shield to one of my heroes
@sudden sparrow I'll give that a try too, thanks π
Get your Lyca's sig up @fathom estuary
And Nemora +15 gives her extra movement speed I think
Will do, I'm currently spending Purple emblems on her, at +6. Need 40 more yellows for Eironn to +20. My Safiya is +25 so I'm not sure if I should push her to +30 or go for Eironn. (both will be ascended in 2 weeks with the new desired heroes)
Alright, thanks π
Rowan>Eironn>Ferael>Safiya/Thoran
Hi guys, at what point should i use my faction scrolls on wilders?
Rowan>Eironn>Ferael>Safiya/Thoran
@sudden sparrow F2P sigs priority
Maybe even do Thoran before Ferael if you don't wanna merc one
Yeah, the only reason I went for Ferael, Athalia and Safiya first, was that I only had 1 Eironn copy until about 2 months ago. Luckily I got like 6 more recently
Hi guys, at what point should i use my faction scrolls on wilders?
@unkempt hemlock since the beginning IMO but now that you have ascended Rowan you should use them on Wilders, unless you're going full LB team for now
Ask questions like that in #classic-questions next time @unkempt hemlock
does anyone have good khasos carry teams?
@fathom estuary what was your 28-40 lineup
@crisp fable
@fathom estuary ty, have to wait for merc Athalia
Yeah, I've been loving my Athalia on both Mehira stages so far.
Really need some help here. No idea what to do. Haven't gotten even 1 down. Tried so many setups and also adjusted the tree... help pls
@lunar monolith try smthg like this:
Idk what to do atm I feel ive gotten everything I need but im not sure of my lineup
@copper stirrup they die too fast :/ safi + rowan don't even survive for like 2 secs. Eironn does do dmg though
Been stuck for a while pls hrlp
Any ideas
I just got my Ezizh to mythic, he's at +5 SI and two faction T2 pieces. I was thinking if putting him in the Ferael's team in Shemira's place and have her take Brutus' one in Lucius' team
Any suggestions for how I should use my Ezizh?
Instead of brutus imo
Does anyone know how to beat 28-22?
Iβve heard people say have Nemora charm Safiya and have the enemy saf do all the work, but Iβve never done it myself. Might need lots of retries
@slender ferry
Put Rowan to tank the Thane @slender ferry
Hell kill him then alts and all my team dies
For eirron burst pvp comp, would M +20 Eirron with 2/4 T2 work and then are these the correct artifacts?
Rowan - Call
Eirron - Eye
Safiya - Blade
Tasi - chalice
Lyca - drape.
Oh 25-10, what a great wall, brought back all the memories xd
@lost nova
Rowan - Chalice
Lyca - Grace
Tasi - Call
Safiya - Blade
Eiron - Eye
Thank you!
This is how its suppose to look right? Or did I flip flop some positions
Ah yep I flip flopped some.
Ty :)
@pale kettle
@cloud fossil @slender ferry this was my solution
Tyty
Who does fawkes trap?
Is there a way to defeat this stage without ferael?
@patent glen seems you are a little underleveled π check ingame "victory combo"
@pearl heron level up your shemira , instead of mirael...
So that means ferael is a must have to beat it with lvl 299.
Ok thanks just gonna wait for next week to merc ferael.
seems this is toons of retrys
@pale kettle thanks i will merc nara next week
Help please π
Any ideas? I feel like I am way to weak to be here
@floral carbon
Thankyou
@lunar monolith
Tasi just gets ome shotted
wtf... is it possible to learn that superpower @copper stirrup ?
Superpower? it's just expirience. Nothing more
@floral carbon mhm, lucius dies from vedan instantly?
@floral carbon
Is this doable right now?
@wanton plank try this
Rowan isnt very tanky in early game but I will give it try
you can change him, to grez if he have some items
But in this case luc will die w/o potions :p
Nah it actually worked
good to hear π
Any suggestions on who should I upgrade and how to place them?
Thx
@empty lodge never use A heroes as food π
@tribal plaza post picture of all your heroes we can not help you indifferent
Is this the best lineup I can do?
@fair snow until you'll get more copies
Ok thx
I need a lineup pls
@dire prairie not many options there...just use the top 5 an overlevel safiya. try building mirael or saveas as a reliable carry until lvl 160
also use the sharing event for the free wukong. you can use him as carry as well. no need to actually have facebook or share, just press the button
@dire prairie ty this until you get few more copies
Could use some tips struggling on chapter 14
@final seal
@final seal make shemira 180 before levelingyour other heroes beyond 140. might als reset these to 140 so you get ressources to level shemira
@limpid quail not 141for the skills?
overleveled carry is more important
@final seal shem smash on lvl180+ . Not looking on whole team
Help
@thorny hull
My lucius is dying too fast this isnt working + rosaline is supporting lucius and not belinda
@distant mango
@copper stirrup is it worth ascending my Shemira
@thorny hull where he dying fast? what level? make a screenshot
@distant mango if you have copies it is. She is pretty as belinda at least for chapter 25. And can be at front line
what is 11-7... please enter and make screenshot of scene
@thorny hull in this comp rosa folow shemira?
No lucius for no reason
His BR > Shem?
Br?
Battle Rating (digits)
He has the highest out of all so yes
just make Shemira BR > lucius . And double shemira ult will shread
Give artifact to shem or level up her items
Should i use the lyca instead of lara?
She will make your team faster i already maked a picture above
Ok i ll try that thanks
Ok so my problem now is: shemira does not survive long enough lucius also dies and if both survive somehow my rosa cant ult for the shemira
I also tried different combos
Ideas on optimizing?
need a good formation for the unrelentig blaze
@barren tree Eironn, Rowan, Ferael, Lyca, Tasi
Any suggestion?
Any ideas here @copper stirrup
@gusty walrus you seem to be my good luck charm around here. I tried that exact combo around 50 times before you suggested it to no avail. You suggest it, I pass on first try π
π
always so tempting.. last stage before the next chapter <.<
yet I guess I won't reach 26 anytime soon π Glad if I make it to 25, even though I can't farm T2 there
is this that "thoran-cheese" I read so much about? I don't think I ever got it working or even know what to do. Any specific relics on thoran? I have him M+ as well.
Is Lorsan mandatory?
You don't even have an E copy?
i do have her E+, but I thought that won't cut it
now that I look at it, yours E+ as well π€ and he does actually survive? gimme a moment, need to put him in the crystal
also any relic on thoran?
Nobody has to survive, but thoran. Thoran is always equipped with call in cheese
Should I use my custom mythic furniture scroll to get my Arthur 3 bonus? Seems pretty good and I have no other hero with 2 pieces ready
lol
I thought I was in the questions channel, sorry I'll ask there
I assume the order in your preview is top to bottom @gusty walrus ?
Thoran
- Rowan
Lorsan - Eironn
Farael
?
Any tips for stage 14-38? Iβm getting my bacon handed
@lunar monolith yes
hmm.. i'm not even killing 1 person after his ult. not even 1/4th.
maybe his equipment is too bad
Nah
Worse equipment is usually better, unequip everything except gear from thoran
so unequip all other characters or what do you mean?
only let thoran have is gear equipped, while all others are basically naked?
(sorry for the stupid questions btw - never did the cheese-method)
Yes and It's not that order...
Lorsan
-Thoran
Eironn
-Rowan
Ferael
I didn't see hyphens sorry
wait - so that isn't top to bottom what it shows in the recap?
Middle-One is always "on top"?
Click on the heroes in order that recap shows you
oh, that is how it is done, i see - thanks for that. Unequipping others real quick
should i trigger thorans ability manually?
You need to time it, so that thoran takes the most damage during focusing stage of his ult
i would use nemora on isabella, drop flora
Best pvp lineup? About to have talene +30, Safiya +20, and lyca/farael +10
Also lyca will be 1* after I get just a bit more wilder fodder
...but pvp depends on who you're fighting and what your server looks like. also defense and offense teams will usually look different.
Yeah, sorry i mean defense team
the Eiron wilder team with ferael instead of safiya is dominating very hard at the stage of the server when people still run shemira teams, it's pretty hard to build against
but since your Ferael is pretty low in the SI, Safiya might be good as well
but your tasi/lyca/ferael might be a bit behind to be able to use this one more consistently
saurus can be win con or die con, depends on who you're fighting. sometimes he's amazing in pvp, other times he just instant dies especially if opponent targets him down first.
Seems for defense saurus would be awful since he can be targeted for interrupting
Gonna work on ascending tasi after lyca, I have the copies, just short on fodder
yeah he's probably easier to use as offense than defense. but like insang said, if most of your opponents are shemira users etc, saurus might be amazing.
How do you use saurus to counter ahem teams?
Im stuck here helpppp
my team is a bit more than 50% of their power so it should be possible right?
I believe the idea of 50% power being enough is moreso with people that have all more options for different types of comps or ccing certain enemies. So probably doesnβt apply as much to the early game
oh oki, so my team is good i just need to afk?
You could always just continue cycling around heroes and probably eventually win with current power, but considering your level, I think it wouldnβt be worth the effort since you can just wait a bit or do some tower for dust to raise wu Kong again
i need a elitle wukong to raise him again tho???
120 is def time to drop wu kong unless you plan on actually buying him all the way to late game (...bad idea, but it's not impossible)
so who should be my carry?
Mirael
ima act like ik who that is
stop pushing stuff to L without being able to L+, but for now mirael and saveas can both be your carry to 160. look for your next carry asap tho, you need to start building for it.
fire witch lady, first hero you get
for early-mid game carries, refer to pinned posts in these channels and the guide channel (or be like me and basically just look at whitesushii guides bc they're so easy to read)
not now, and even when they pass her they're still not gonna be good anytime soon (both kind of need at least M+ and their signature items leveled to work)
there's a reason why people recommend shemira, belinda etc--beyond just being easier to build because you can buy them in shop, they also need much less to start working
i have shemira
tl;dr trust the guides lol. also like i said, you need to start building towards your next carry (could be shemira), but it's not time to use them yet.
oki oki, so my current team but mireal instead of wuky
Any suggestions?
Any ideas except thoran cheese here?
Any ideas? Thank you
Nemora is usually the first ascended wilder hero because you can buy her from lab, but now that the nakoruru event is in the game you won't have much coins to spend
@river sorrel im on the same floor and prolly gonna use merc to pass, pretty hard level. @lunar monolith passed it with shem carry
Helpp is there a way i can win here? Maybe re arange them??
Thanks @pale kettle. That did it
Any ideas for tower 369?
I think I passed that one with rowan, eironn, tasi, Lyca, ferael @strange sparrow
That got me really close, lost Tasi vs Shemira but I think I can do it with some luck, thanks @barren tree
Any help?
Line up for early game?
yeah but with much more rng than lyca I could try grace on him

