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@cloud ledge just shuffle heroes around and keep retrying. If you dont get it then you're gunna have to wait a little while.
Also who is nemora charming?
actually try phoenix idea it seems good
my positioning gets worse if i use athalia instead. its a stage thing
if i put arden in my lineup i have too many backline
no you don't
@terse tinsel move belinda to where wukong is. Since shes higher level and acension shes tankier then the others. Then put arden in the back
you only want 1 tank,1 damage carry , 3 support
i think i just need to level up more befause arden gets 1 hit
Anyway I can beat this without ascending Lucius and Belinda or Shemira ?
Welp
@cloud ledge try
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Nemora
Cecilia
I'm assuming nemora charms Saveas but if thats not happening you'll want to switch her out for someone maybe Saurus (could actually put saurus against vedan for faction bonus)
I'm not sure if cecelia's damage reduction will apply to Saveas when she target Ankhira, if the zone doesn't extend that far try using Arden to Root Saveas/Vedan
Regardless of the stage you'll want Rowan in the center, he can heal more people, and more importantly (before 121 when he restocks he heals) his ult will reach belinda. Without rosalina, Belinda will take a long time to ult and it won't clear the entire stage, Rowan is an energy battery but Belinda needs to be in range to catch his coins
@plush patrol put lyca across from athalia. Just hit retry until you get dodges
Help please
cna you post the rest of your heroes
Any KT 387 screenshots?
how good is shemira really
@sinful quest S+ for 161-240
Wilder 216?
@frank scroll you probably need to wait to level up your heroes. And you need a main carry/damage dealer most of your heroes are supports
Alright, should I use someone other than saveas?
Iโd suggest working on saveas to L+ for early carry
Hope you could also get copies of belinda since sheโs one of the best burst damage carry
Okay thank you
Help plz
Hello people, can I have some help bc I'm stuck at campaign 5-20 and and king's tower floor 56 ๐ฉ idk how to put them together for a better and strong team. Thanks
@terse tinsel I would start over leveling Belinda and build a Saveas. In general you want your carry +20 to +40 over the rest of your team.
Any suggestions? Thank you
Any advice??
@robust ruin
Wukong
Hogan
Mirael
Lucius
Rosa
Im not sure that with my level is possible pass this stage..
@astral pike rosa wont survive athalia, for that one I used lyca bot (T1 M gear) and retired if lyca didn't dodge...
shame bc antandra has better gear ๐ฆ
any tips for this stage? 
you already tried the thoran cheese?
70 lvl gap is starting to get a lot ๐ need specific teams generally, with gwyneth arthur, ferael safya or celepogeans
or just level up some more, full lightbearer should be good for a little while more
Vedan ults too fast and got completely destroyed by his aoe dmg. Lucius couldn't ult no matter how many times I retry. Any ideas?
try saveas, shemira, arden, nemora, brutus/saurus/lucius/rowan
when having problems in early levels, cc helps a lot and you dont have any here except the early disrupt from athalia and rowan ult
Who should be the carry?
Whose more important to have at a higher ascension rosaline Fawkes or Belinda
you can also try, arden, nermora, tasi, shemira/athalia, saurus
I can only level one above 120
and when you level up shemira should be several levels ahead of your others characters
@deep wren belinda needs it more if you use her
@golden pike Ty I'll give it a try
Any ideas? Been getting waxed by this level
have you tried lyca nemora
instead of belinda and rosa
then put tasi top front position, lyca back middle, nemora back bottom and shemira back top
can also switch lucius with brutus
Hi there! I have a question here, if anyone can help pls :)
https://gyazo.com/e9efff7b8d6b0b247691c10dda169979
I don't get it how is his Eironn faster.
My E: SI 30 , haste 12, lvl 279
His E: SI 22, haste 8, lvl 307
Both full T2 gear
My tree: celer 25 (but all of my tree are higher than his)
His tree : celer 15
I'm using eye, He uses Blade.
Both Tasi uses Call but my one has 48 haste instead of his 45.
I think its bc he is attavvcking you
I attacked him now, both Eironn pulls went trought. He's still too fast
What team I should use
Stuck here any suggestions?
@limber onyx whats your lyca SI
Nvm I beat it lel
@hexed depot just go on like this until you struggle, and buy shemiras in lab
@golden pike I think i will take nemora from the event with 50 elites, or i will risk and take 10 f scrolls ans change nemora with saurus, he s good but not when he got cc ed
yes
switch nemora with saurus and brutus with eiron if you can or any tank, this will be a good early game team that you can use until chapter 24+
Really wanna try the wilders, got bored of lb s
@humble lark
Rowan (Call)
Lucius (Drape)
Nemora
Belinda (Eye)
Shem (Blade)
Nemora must charm Ferael can also use Fawkes if you have him, also with Shem and Belinda attacking Grezhul there's high chance that they may kill Grezhul before he ults.
Advice here?
@limber onyx whats your lyca SI
@golden pike My SI 20, his SI on Lyca is 10. But it doesnt give mspd
What is the best saveas team comp before shemira becomes 161? I'm rotating between wilder trio, Arden, horgan, skreg
Guys im stuck here any tips
Can't beat this lvl
@ripe finch usually the best option is to charm ferael with nemora. Also, put shem to 200 and reset rosa to 160.
@wispy vine I would try running eironn saff there. It's one of about half of Ch 25 that I'm missing screens from :/
@tulip phoenix anything with 160 saveas front :) if you have a Rowan I would run him with any comp you build. Posting your stage and heroes will help.
@small spindle do you have an e Rowan?
How ... how could I beat this.x)
I do not have rowan atm
@charred wyvern please post all your heroes. I would also recommend not building heroes to L you cant build to L+. It wastes fodder.
@small spindle
Rosa
Shem
Nemora
Skreg/brutus
Nara/athalia if you have one.
@empty pulsar I mostly use wilder trio, Hogan, skreg, sometimes saurus and estrilda
@charred wyvern
Rosa
Belinda
Rowan
Any
Fawkes
And arden
@tulip phoenix that should be fine, but put Saveas front :)
My rosaline is weak like getting one shot
I would also use Rowan >nemora for most stages, put him back middle @tulip phoenix
Oke then I guess i probably need better gear or higher ascensions
How to put em in the lineup tho..?
My saveas sometimes cant even win 1 vs 1 ๐
@charred wyvern I keep rosa E+ through Ch 22. Put them in the order i showed :D
Back
Front
Back
Front
Back
@empty pulsar faction bonus dont matter too much at this point right?
@tulip phoenix you can do something like
Numisu
Saveas
Rowan
Hogan
Belinda/nemora/lyca, really anyone here that isnt rosa since saveas doesnt benefit from her as much.
Back to work!
@empty pulsar Dura's call on ros?
Any thoughts?
who should i run for wrizz and soren?
what happened to @astral jay havnt seen him for some time. anyone knows ?
@toxic badge idk I was wondering too
@random trellis try belinda - rosa - rowan - luci - saveas
@pale lagoon try swap fawkes with cecil
i have
i got it by switching lucius with cecilia, and putting shem rosa in frontline, fawkes top left and cecilia bottom left
Any ideas? Shem gets conffined but warek destroys me
is there a reason why cecilia is such a good tank?
Something's that counter kaz
just high dodge or ???
Read her abilities
@pale lagoon for killing backline like cc unit and healer
kk
all i can tell is she stacks her stuff and its pretty good against bosses kek
oh her 4th ability is huge wtf
40% attack rating nerf yikers
Any team ideas?
@charred wyvern use cc unit...coz dodge from kaz is annoying
@charred wyvern you had tasy
@charred wyvern like this belinda - tasy - rowan - thoran - shemira
Shemira is "Fucking "useless I'm gonna rage quit .
+they had faction advantage on shemira
Or try rosa belinda...shemira quit
@charred wyvern for early stage.... rowan or luci is enough for support
@charred wyvern Shem is @161+ really useful
I always use shemira for DoT until now ( ch 23 )
@pale kettle
Try
Fawkes
Shemira
Rosaline
Thalene
Rowan/Tasi
it was a 11 second battle like I was destroyed
@pale kettle Damn
That's my Main Team and it works well everywhere atm..
maybe it just positionning
@void depot try belinda -luci - rowan - brutus - rosa or tasy
@pale kettle try this shemira - rosa - luci - grezul or brutus - lyca
Any ideas?
@river sorrel try ferael - rosa - rowan - luci - shemira
Does my lineup look good to yโall?
Need help, plz. Want those faction scrolls for lb today.
If someone can create good "decks" please report to me i'm too bad to make a good one. I'll just send pictures of my "troops"
@mortal yarrow try belinda - luci - rowan -skreg - shemira or lyca
Is replacing Saurus with Kaz a good idea?
Pls help me with my "deck"
Thanks @empty wing
What do you mean by deck?
A team
OK thanks
Is mirael better?
Yep shes much better at earlier levels
OK thanks
Wait my friend have also questions to his team
What is there a good team?
The best would be replacing numisu with mirael
My friend is in the fight better with numisu but why?
Also why ist numisu better?
@empty wing
Numisu is not that great in general. Mirael is one of the best early game carries
started a few days ago and now i've pretty much hit a wall. im trying to get lucius and rosaline etc for Gwyneth or whatever but is there anything i can do in the meantime?
Any ideas
@dapper herald use redemption codes yet?
@pale kettle reset talene and level shemira. Put talene in your crystal, now she can be higher level than 100.
But I messed up
@pale lagoon what ist this?
I legend her and ion have another copy should I still level shemira
yes
๐ ok
you can still find copies of shemira later, so it doesn't really matter if she is L+. its only 20 diamonds and possibly 24 hours you may be down, but your talene will be able to get her skillup at 101, and another 20 levels which is huge
@pale lagoon what are redemption codes?
@dapper herald https://afk.guide/redemption-codes/
look on this website and enter the codes under "active codes" by clicking on your profile picture, going to the second tab "settings" and clicking "redemption codes" in the middle left side. the codes will give diamonds, dust and scrolls (different for different codes)
uf4shqjngq
AFK888
misevj66yi
are the current codes
@pale lagoon have you more codes?
nope
Oh ok
any recommendation for arena of heros? currently running with eironn,tasi, lyca, rowan and ferael
@pale kettle here:
Lucius
Rowan
Mirael
Talene
Rosa
just make sure rowan is on the opposite side of rosaline, so that she can get a potion (she will run over to mirael, making her in range). Mirael should always be in the middle, to make the most of her ulti
if that doesn't work try flipping the comp (switch lucius and rosa, rowan and talene), and then try switching lucius and talene and flipping that.
Ok right ty
np np
Whats the best Lightbearer team to lineup with
I use
Lucius and Rigby Front
Belinda - Gwyneth - Estrilda Back
However I just got Rowan, Rosaline and Hendrik today
But all are elites only tho
My Gwyneth is Legendary
What's your chapter? @formal relic
17-1 rn
You can use
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Rosaline
Fawkes Id you're planning a full 5 lb
Rigby it's not worth investing, gwyneth is a late game character and estrilda could be swapped with Fawkes, but you should try to get one disabler such as tasi/nara, etc, if you don't have any of those try estrilda front and Rosaline backline
It could be Rosa or estrilda, Rosa is a good meat shield because of her damage reduction when she's following somebody
Okie
anyone any comments, im really stuck on this
Thanks โค๏ธ
@pale kettle show your hero pool
I would personally try
Athalia
Lucius
Belinda
Wukong
Nemora
Keep Belinda 20-40 levels above the rest, and level the heroes that are E+, put the E ones on the crystal, otherwise you will stop at 100 instead of 120
Also you should be making mirael and saveas L+, they are better carries than Belinda in early game
If wukong is not able to ult switch places between him and Lucius
Any suggestions?
Is there anything I should do to beat this stage?
Try putting eironn in front and replace seirus with solise
Give call to solise
@tiny echo try rosa and lucius front. Belinda rowan then tasi in the back
I'm new and wanted to know who should I put in first and so on.
Need some ideas
Any help?
Set up a good Saveas and replace Mireal, as heโll be ur carry till 160
Omg this fricking
@plush patrol but saveas is only legendaryly good or not?
Yeah until 160 he can basically solo carry you as long as you have him overlvlโd over the other heroes
Always level him first, and only level up other heroes when you canโt lvl him anymore
So I've made him now in my team and made it to level 95 but he's so almost one shot
i am LV:34 and kapitel:7-22
You want to try to keep him in the back and just focus on having a team to keep him alive while he dishes out tons of damage
Is he E+?
i need help
@plush patrol no Rea +
I can not. Play with him
Which one could I add to my team
Could anyone help me?
help
@prime cave can you send a screenshot of the results screen after an attempt? That way I know who the problem hero(es) might be๐
Iโve been stuck On this level for like 3 days
@hallow steeple ??
Seems like the Belinda gets rolled really fast. Try canceling the Safiya aura at the start with Nara
@prime cave
Any suggestions?
Shem
Best heroes to play with Gwyn and Arthur?
NVM rng just worked in my favor ๐
Rowan and Rosaline are pretty much must-haves. The fifth slot is a flex slot based on the comp you're up against
@marsh cairn
Uh, should I replace someone with tasi or should I keep it as is?
Need some help
Which one of my lineups are the best if they all were upgraded to level 60
Which one of my lineups are the best if they all were upgraded to level 60. And if they all had wukong in the lineup
Got Nemora today. Wondering if she'd be worth subbing in or if it's better to stick with Saveas, Estrilda, Wukong, Arden, and Mirael? I've hit a wall at the Chapter 5 final boss.
whats the best comps for the guild bosses at level 275
stuck on chapter 8
I beat this and get 30 factions scrolls pls advise
how can i make my team better besides leveling
Can someone send a good Soren lineup?
help plz need finish chapt15 for stargaz
What lineup can I use for this? I keep getting one shot by mireal
@elfin wyvern try ukyo replacing lyca....shemira with brutus
Like this belinda - ukyo - rowan - brutus - shemira
Any help? I have the fodder to get Rowan or Rosaline to legendary but not legendary+
Whatโs a good formation with erionn
Whatโs a good formation with erionn
For late game
Any help? I have the fodder to get Rowan or Rosaline to legendary but not legendary+
Any help?
Help pls iโve been stuck at this stage for a few days
Help pls iโve been stuck at this stage for a few days
Help pls iโve been stuck at this stage for a few days
Try Lucius, Rowan Belinda lyca and Rosa
I just got destroyed by brutus ult
Help pls, need clear for stargaze
Who should I si30 next?
Forgot this 1
@torpid turret I think you shouldn't have to many mythic. U should mythic plus those who can be ascended. Prioritixe those
@stray jungle that is my next move, I'm getting closer to the limit of the level
@stray jungle safiya
Maybe try putting Lucius in for Brutus, and put rowan in the middle
And switch shem and Brutus positions
Luc dies insta xD
Oof. Oh hes at L sorry my bad thought he ws M XD
I can reset all. Which 5 should I focus on and which should be my carry? Some of those purples aren't natural so they don't have 4th ability
Ok guys. Show me your magic ๐ Is there any way to win grave tower 225 with my heroes and my hero level ?
@stray jungle safiya
@shadow meteor ok, thanks ๐
@winter cargo belinda, wukong, rosaline, tasi, nemora. make sure to overlevel the belinda as carry. once wukong doesnt work anymore switch him with hogan/brutus
@shell igloo try
lyca
saveas
nemora (charm enemy saveas)
rowan/lucius
tasi
Welp?
@limpid quail the problem is silvina jumped into Nemora and takes her out :/
@plush patrol try
lyca
belinda
rosaline
rowan
eironn
or switch eironn and rosa to pull arden and take him out so he cant root
@shell igloo take the gear off tasi to make her have lower def than nemora. should be possible due to the ascensions difference. silvina jumps to the lowest def
27-30 any help ?
@stone bluff thats not how this channel works, send a screen of the stage and your heroes and we might be able to help
what should I be playing in Twisted Realm?
@stone bluff have you tried
talene
rowan
eironn
tasi
safiya
@graceful coral belinda, rosa, rowan for any boss, then add shemira, cecilia/lucius depending on who you fight
What team should I run
Need help with this
Who should I use for Soren?
@copper stirrup 5th hero? Talene or twins maybe?
Twins will be ok , after shemira get some buffs
Btw Belinda will do much more damage when she'll get Acs.
What passw this?
@copper stirrup okay thank you ๐
@copper urchin
๐ค
@charred halo nara vs arden Belinda->lika
@copper stirrup my rowan dont survive
Put him in middle of back line, wait for tasi random VS varek ๐
It's always many tries of tasi...
eyerone chara is OS by brutus
@terse tinsel from experience arden sometimes dont root against the hypogean mage (back roe center). For a start try switching lucius with belinda
@tulip phoenix i have tried switching them but its same result
@terse tinsel does your arden root?
i thinkso
@terse tinsel oh just saw your levels. What worked for me was to level my carry hero to highest level. Based on your situation it could be smth like belinda 120, rest 90 or so
I'd recommend go all in on your carry until you reach capacity, and then catch up with your remaining. If you dont want to spend diamonds to reset just be patient and let the exp come to you
Perhaps i should get a mercenary? What hero would be useful here?
What should I do from here? I've been concentrating on a lightbearer team. Once I open up another resonating xtal spot I can put Rowan in. Thoughts?
@keen fox rosa
@last wagon you should definitely be using Rowan
Kong
Saveas
Rowan
Hogan
Estrilda/lucius
@last wagon also, level your saveas to +20 to +40 levels above everyone else.
what should my team be
How can I beat this?
What a good lineup for CHAPTER 14-31
I'm using this team at the moment but cant get passed
@pale kettle i would put rowan in the middle and put saurus instead of lucius
Like that??@pale kettle
yeah, don't forget to gear up your team and change positions of your heros if it don't work the first time
@pale kettle okay I gotchu I'm still learning the game lol been playing for about 2 months maybe less my friend has been guiding me
What are 3 good pvp comps with these heroes? (Arthur is linked to Shem but I don't mind unlinking )
For challenger, so can't overlap heroes or use linked in different teams even
Eironn/nara/athalia@fiery kite
@fiery kite charm
@prime plaza
Luci
Arthur
Bel
Rosie
Fawkes
Serius
Tasi
Nemora
Eironn
Brutus
Thoran
Shem
Nara
Rowan
Ferael
Some flexing around
@small acorn who should I link Arthur to then? In your opinion?
rigby
Some flexing around
@small acorn ofc
@pale kettle put your shem front line.
@fiery kite use shem instead of Belinda. Nemora back middle, and rosa top
Help
@astral jay are u around?
@lilac gulch please keep this to stage related questions. Pinging someone can be done in #545919777907015684 or private message.
Well I was hoping he was around since he always helped me with lineup. Anyone can give suggestion for this?
@lilac gulch
Rosa
Lucius
Nemora
Belinda
Rowan
Retry until nemora charms ferael :)
If you aren't getting lucius ult off fast enough, put call on lucius. If it still needs more, replace rosa with Lyca :)
thanks i'll test that out
Lyca got disabled by coffin/tasi. Please help me
@placid stratus there is no coffin or tasi there?
So switch out belinda for tasi?
tasi lyca anything that is cc or buff your shemira works at that stage
@zealous kestrel also put Rowan back middle so everyone gets heals.
I'm sorry but I don't have a firm grasp on who that is exactly yet
What should I do here ?
Oh yeah sorry that was already switched my bad old screenshot haha
uh, so tasi has the banish, lyca gives haste, fawkes has coffin and stuff like that
ferael energy disintegration and such
Me?
you should reset wu kong and level belinda to 140
and reset vedan too
before 240 level you want to keep your carry 40 levels ahead
Then who do I upgrade instead
belinda 140 > rest to 120 > belinda to 160 rest to 140 etc, generally tank comes after your carry
@empty pulsar
Shemira front, Tasi in the back@zealous kestrel
Oh ok
put rosaline behind shemira so she doesn't have to walk for 10 minutes to get to her :p
Ok thank you, but after resetting wu Kong and vedan who will I use
you can still use them, just level belinda first
and keep wu kong and vedan at 100 until belinda is 140
So rosaline or tasi behind shemira
Ohhh ok do level them like at a pace slower than Belinda
rosaline behind shemira
So*
Lol okay so this
yes
also indominus you might want to use something like an arden instead of saurus for more cc
๐ thanks ๐
Welp
.herotierlist
Who can help?
How can i deffet dise stage
@smoky valley remove brutus, stop putting tokens into shem SI.
Tasi/Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Athalia/nara
@frosty elk
No talene, Rowan back middle.
Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Lyca with grace
Can someone please put me a good team together i'm chapter 7-22 and don't get any more I have enough to make 2 heros to 100 and 3 on 80 or more
Please
@empty pulsar sorry i mean their Lyca gonna be disabled if i use tasi or fawkes
Once again, if you can help me
Pls help me
@empty pulsar can i see a Foto of the Artefakte
@placid stratus use tasi/fawkes instead of lyca
What line up should be ideal? I tried putting them in but didnt help much, Lucius die so fast
That's normal to happen, I've started using
Lucius
Talene
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline
In those stages
I need help
@pale kettle in that order : lucius shemira solise rowan wukong
Ok
@pale kettle
Solisse
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Wukong
@pale kettle
Yes. This should work.
Okay I'll try it out
Can someone please help me create my team alone I can't do it
@dapper herald send screenshot of your heroes
@pale kettle it didnt work
@dapper herald if your shemira is dying too early put her in front of estrilda since saveas deals lots of damage, if you can get shelira to ult its pretty easy win
@pale kettle message uptop
I cant get lucius to get his shield up so it messes me up
@pale kettle my saveas is only Rea +
@pale kettle Can you please just say .Holdon, Wu Kong, and so on, the tactics I need not only which heroes
@alessandro as of now your only damage dealer is vedan and wukong just level them up max and use talene as healer, 2 last slot might depend on the stage, buy shemira from lab store and get her to ascended it will help you out a lot afterward
Iโve been playing for two days. Any help? It would be much appreciated, thanks!
I know I have no front line but idk what to do for this stage. This comp was the closest i got to beating it.
@native root drop shemira for now and use mirael/saveas as your carry
u can also use wukong but only until level 100
Should I replace Safiya for mirael then?
@rose raven try not to use shem until 161, try
tasi
rowan
athalia
saurus
lyca
maybe? you dont really have any dps other than that shem...
Okay so here is my current lineup
I just got some new heroes today I thought might warrant a switch but I may be wrong
@sturdy kiln i have saveas legendary+ i could reset shemira and level him up
Hello, what is the strat for this stage ?... ๐ญ
yes, that sounds pretty good ๐ @rose raven
I always hear about lucius, nemora, etc.
Would any of these heroes help me or do I have a good comp as it is?
if you get lucky you could replace lucius with hogan later on @zealous kestrel
What do you mean by that
if you somehow pull 3 more of him to get him to L+
ive been stuck on this stage for a while now and i dont know what formation to pick
I feel like the chances of that happening are somehow less than 0 ๐
@sturdy kiln I beat it ๐ with nemora rowan lyca sauras saveas
get advancement rewards ๐
Me?
my heroes btw
@cosmic token Try : Lucius, Kaz (for athalia esquive), Rosa, Rowan and Belinda (same backline)
Anything I can do
Help please
@tulip phoenix who does Tasi banish? if Khasos try
Tasi
Skreg/Hogan
Rowan
Rosaline
Shemira
If mirael try
Shemira
Rosaline
Rowan
Skreg/Hogan
Tasi
Tasi cant do anything she gets one shotted by shotgun dude, I'll try her at top left first one sec
Arden roots or interrupted by Golus?
Arden can root from centre back row, tasi just does nothing all 3 back row spots
@tulip phoenix upgrade shem immediately 161 +
he can't until his crystal hits 140
@charred halo exp problems lol
@tulip phoenix oh my bad sorry, didnt check the other heroes
you can try first comp with Lyca instead of tasi and see if you dont get one shotted but yeah
@hollow hatch so lyca shem Hogan Rowan estrilda?
no what i suggseted but with lyca instead of tasi
YES IT ONLY TOOK LYCA I forgot about her after saveas. Thanks a lot @hollow hatch ๐
lol you're welcome
Lol I just got Lucius
Anything I can do
@hollow hatch you tried brutus? I think lucius dont do well against those hypo mages
brutus is good for extreme burst like saveas, but he doesn't work better for me on this level, only 4 second immune until level 141
I played that same comp until shemira was 141 or so not too familiar with belinda
Usually I'd go cc instead of rosa, works 50/50 of the time. Like a tasi or arden but arden dont root these hypo mage for some reason
without rosa belinda doesn't have enough damage to clear the stage and arden gets interrupted by the mages in the back
Fawkes has the same cc as tasi but longer
Yeah the arden interrupt is weird lol
Looks cool?
@native root yes but try to overlevel one character that will be your carry, early one wukong is best, mirael after level 100
@native root you leveled too many characters
Definetly don't overlevel nemora over other heroes
And as ronin says only level 5 heroes maximum, reset any others you've leveled
@hollow hatch anyway sorry cant help there, out of my league ๐ good luck with that stage
So overlevel wukong as carry?
haha yeah the brutus and golus are tough enough but 3 hyppo mages do insane AOE damage
yes overlevel wukong
Could I maybe add Lucius in there or nah
Ps: really dont like belinda as a hero LOL dont see the good in her...........yet
replace hogan with lucius
mirael was so good but time to move onto belinda with level 161 coming up lol
Alright thanks
Oh yeah 161 she could be wicked that's true
@native root suggest you reset safiya and shemira and then work with the hero exp like what Phoenix said
Later on you will unlock Crystals which you can put heroes you wanna use in there to level them without spending experience
Can someone help with this
@hollow hatch
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
You are giving free energy to Brutus with both Rosa and Bel, so he can ult and slice them
You could try with Arden/tasi instead of Fawkes if that doesn't work out
Iโll give tasi a shot, golus stomps me normally and Lucius and Fawkes donโt do enough damage so Brutus comes over and kills Belinda/Rosa (Arden gets interrupted by mages)
Even at the middle? I'm not familiarized with him, haven't used Arden in my life, Lucius and Fawkes should not be dealing damage, they're more utility, you can put Belinda in the middle, Rowan Frontline and Rosa backline, usually Rowan is a good Brutus wall
need help on 29-59, this skreg is a beefy boi
@pale kettle
Rosalina
Lucius
Mirael
Talene
Rowan
any ideas other than thoran cheese which I can't really pull off
Do you have cecilia? @vast nymph I found either athal or Cecil counter nara
@hollow hatch like this
I do, only at E+ @pale kettle , legit every enemy is annoying
switch talene and lucius
Talene heals your entire team, Rowan heals talene, Rosa + Mirael burst damage
unless you can one shot vedan before he ults by pulling him away with rosalina, you just have to out sustain and kill him after he ults
Fawkes is also good at countering vedan
Ohhhh thatโs smart ty
Donโt auto too @pale kettle time the heals when there around 50%
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There should be a way to make talene target someone specific right? She kinda functions the same way as a Cecilia/Athalia right?
No not at all
Regardless she has a lot of aoe, good dps
Because talene is getting targetted by vedan, she will be taking a lot of damage so she will pasively heal your entire team. Once you ult on her though, she burst heals everyone and then no longer heals because she has a shield and is not losing HP, but her damage output increases by a lot after the first ult and she also becomes a bit tankier
Post a pic of what stage you're stuck on /what you need help with and hero list
more people can help if you post here though
See if replacing Lorsan with Ukyo works
it looks like you may just be stuck due to levels, do you want me to send you some guides you can read to learn more about the game?
Yes just dm me tho
alright I will
How well would this lineup function? (I got it from lab and wondering if I should make it permanent)
^ vs
It's not horrible but doesn't look like theres much synergy going on other than 4 person faction bonus
Also, you look like you're level capped pretty hard
Yeah I am, Iโm just trying to get scrolls and diamonds for summons
Hello I asked today but didn't get a proper answer I can't get any more at 7-22 and need a new team but I'm not good at creating teams and wanted to ask if anyone can make a team for me,eswould be nice if you could help me.
Ukyo
Wukong
Solise
Talene
Rosalina
I have Ukyo only for 3days
Replace with Arden
Just ascend him with wilders and see if you can get him to level 61 where he roots 2 people
(at least I think its 61 might be 81)
Im a new player and this is my current team and heros, I'm on 9-8 in the campaign and can't get to the artifact in the secrets of the forest. Is there anything I can do to improve my lineup? I got the hendrik today and am waiting 11 more hours to put him in the resonating crystal but I'm not sure it will do much because I've used a friends L+ lvl 111 lucius and still couldn't get past the 4th fight in the secrets of the forest for the artifact.
Hello @sour solstice,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
@sour solstice Shemira is not a good carry until level 161, because you have rowan and rosalina, you should use your fodder to ascend mirael (hopefully you still have some left after L+'ing rowan) and use her as your carry. A good lineup would be
Rowan
Brutus/Hendrick/Tank
Mirael
Rosalina
Fawkes
But realistically, the lineup switches a lot based on the stage, Rowan can frontline or can support in the back, rosalina supports but often works in front by running back to the carry, and your tank should be on the side with more damage
Also make sure you have a good wishlist because Hendrick should not be on your wishlist unless you got him from soulstones or something (I can tell you an example wishlist or you can send your if you want)
@hollow hatch And can you tell me how best to put them?
Those wishlists look fine
@sour solstice good wishlist, I assume you got hendrick from soulstones then
@dapper herald
Arden
Wukong
Solise
Talene
Rosalina
i guess so, i forget where i pulled him tbh
no the > means forwards
so in terms of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 slots its
Wukong
Talene
Arden
Solise
rosalina
ok ill try that lineup, im actually really close to being able to ascend a mirael to L so in a few days ill probably be able to scrape up enough gems to summon more fodder
Sounds good ๐
Yes
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i also have 10 faction summon scrolls so i have to wait for lightbearers to come back, another thing, tomorrow i get a elite+ belinda and i think im gonna be able to get 4 lucius's from the celestial isles event so would it be worth saving lightbearer fodder for ascending either of those to L+. lucius seems really good and belinda also seems like a good carry with rosaline.
Personally I prefer mirael to belinda pre 160, but belinda works so you can do that. Lucius also needs the stats for tanking but carry > tank so if you use Belind as your carry ascend her first
also you can consider just not ascending anyone which sacrifices progress (because you ahve less base stats) in order to make a better decision later when you've pulled more copies and know who you want to take to ascended
@hollow hatch OK well now I lose again it is because they are too weak or why?
well probably yes, as you push enemies will get stronger so eventually you'll be too weak but there are things you can do to optimize how far you can push
I'm stuck on kt 401, someone have his lineup ?
@dapper herald Generally, your team should have 1 carry, 1-2 tank, and 2-3 support, early teams you kind of just go with whatever you have so it's less important.
Wukong can carry before 100 but falls off after because he is celestial, Talene is same thing, but she's a decent tank and even better support after 100. Solise would be your current carry if she was overleveled, but as you don't have copies you want to look for someone easy to ascend like Mirael as your carry. Rosaline and Arden are good supports. A team after level 100 might look like
Arden
Tank/Frontline
Mirael
Talene
Rosalina
another quick question thats a little unrelated @hollow hatch after floor 14 in celestial isles when i get all the lucius's what unit do you think i should go for (if i make it further) that will help me the most in the future with my current units
Floor 1-9 scrolls
Floor 10 whatever hero helps you most
Floor 11-19 scrolls
Floor 20 Talene
@hollow hatch Mirael doesn't do damage as far as I've noticed and who can I take as a tank
Mirael didn't seem to do a lot of damage to me either, but you need to overlevel her. Having your carry 20-40 levels higher than rest of team will get you farther than even split of EXP
And what tank can I take?
Skreg or Hogan is decent tank at beginning ideally you will get lucius from pulls, and if not you will get him from a hero chest after getting 50 Elites
Wukong can stay until you are higher level like 110/120 is when he stop working well
and is when you should replace with a tank like skreg or hogan, if you get lucius you can replace now because he's very good tnak
Pls say that you from German I am not so good at English
@tough geode
Sorry am American can only help in english
Ok
@dapper herald for now try
Arden
Wukong
Mirael
Talene
Rosalina
and level up mirael as much as you can
Ok
If you switch arden and rosalina, can arden root Mirael and Morvus?
If he is not interrupted by Ogi, then retry until he roots those 2
What?
try switching places of arden and rosalina, see if arden can root enemy mirael and morvus (gun guy)
Ok
@wild dawn If you're looking for a general team go for
Rosalina
Wukong
Mirael
Ukyo
Arden
cant get past this one
Okay thank you @hollow hatch
You can either retry and see if it works with retry or wait for exp and level up mirael
yeah, a lot of times your team will die, just need your carry to be high level so can kill enemy team even if your team dies
if retry doesn't work just wait for exp and level up mirael
OK thanks
@terse tinsel Try switching around positions, put nemora opposite of vedan and try to charm him, try putting belinda in the back, if switching positions around doesn't work you can try using Eironn to group enemies for Belinda ult, but don't think that will work very well
it helps if you retry the stage a lot and move the units around after 4 or 5 failed attempt, ive had to try some stages 50+ times to get lucky enough to pass it
theres tonnes of luck factors like crit and ability timings and stuff so sometimes you just need a lucky run and you can slip by a few more stages
@hollow hatch silvina kills my nemora so she cant charm
@covert condor sorry i was driving
Np . About your stage maybe its worth tryng with nemora instead of arden, arden is good for his triple root but i think yours still havent learned that. Try placing nemora opposite to Belinda or enemy lyca whoever you think is hurting you more
Ok will do! Ty!
Any help?
Help please
@covert condor nemora worked! Thanks
@north trellis did you try Gwyneth yet? Maybe gwyn rosa rowan lyca nemora/lorsang having her burst isa down
@plush patrol try lucius belinda fawkes rowan rosa
Or lucius rosa fawkes rowan bel
Who do I use to fight Kane?
Rowan rosa Bel /lorsang wukong. It wont be pretty tho, ideally you want rosa to die first so dont use Belinda ultimate till after 1:15 @gray nest
Ok too drunk i failed to edit. Rowan rosa bel shemira +lorsan/wukong. So either have rosa or bel die first
What Artifacts should I givr
Ideally rowan call shemira blade and Belinda eye but it depends who dies first . If rosa follows Belinda and you want Belinda dyng first you could give rosa call for instant double bel ulti
Wait what makes Lorsan good for this?
Lorsan marks enemy to take x2 damage from your ultimates
Its not the best but its what you got
You would rather play twins but you dont have them
Any ideas ?
Easy thoran cheese @static wing
doesnt seem that ez at +10 so far, but its all rng at the end, ty
Is this the best lineup I can do for now? Currently stuck. Trying to see if I can do without merc
What team should I run for campaign
@frank scroll
Saveas
Lucius
Mehira
Talene
Rowan
or
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Talene
Lyca
Okay thank you
try 1.hendrick 2.thoran 3.rosa 4.rowan 5.belinda
relatable , im hardstuck on a stage as well
That is a lot of L units...
Don't make units L. I'm on the go rn, just opened to this server. @outer adder can u explain to @gloomy hollow why not to make L units? I think you are very trustable as Ali seems to be gone recently....
If not @gloomy hollow , just DM me and I will DM u the reason when I'm back.
Tyvm joeii :)
you typically want to funnel your fodder into one hero per faction(plus one more for your main faction) in order to get your 5As as quickly as possible, making units L gives them an insignificant boost and spreads your fodder thin which makes the process of getting our 5As take much longer
i see thx for the tip
help me
Could I get some help please, tried all different formations.
@hollow bone try switching heroes like my screenshot above to see if it will work
then swap Rosa & Fawkes, Lucius & Shemira at the same time for rng
@silk cosmos no good bro, just can't get the second shem alt out, I may be hard stuck
I only need 1 copy of Belinda to get her to ascended, should I get her to mythic plus and try her
mythic+ Belinda wont do anything I think
well she can still be an early carry, but in stages like what you are being stuck at, Shemira is just better
Shem has self heal so she can at least tank a bit
Anything i should change?
reset Shemira level to 1 and pour the resources to the top 5 @obsidian bobcat
How would you guys beat this one? Also ignore the L khasos, I had to do that for Abyssal ranking
Literally can't pass anything, its not even close fights so I'm guessing i need to switch things up
What should i change
Explain
your carry should always be 20-40 levels higher, if cap permits
What is my carry idk
Is a carry automatically assigned to the highest ascension? like my Belinda?
atm your carry is WU, after level 100 depends on what you have
On
nope, you should level her up @hot glade
and shes now at max
usually from 100-160 Mirael or saveas are better carries, because they are strong and cap at legendary+
Ok so do i just not level my other people or what
you do something like this, 5 heroes, carry at least 20 levels higher, than rest
Ok
so, something like, WU 100 other 4 80
So do i reset the non carries?
How do you guys usually go about equipments?
the 5 heroes with highest level should be your highest cap heroes (hisghest ascension) not you main line of play.
you put your main line in the crystal slots, all but the carry, wich needs to be higher level
if you look at my pic, my carry is atm 25 levels higher than the rest, at least. But that belinda cant go over 160 for now, so i am upgrading skills and stats making everyone 121 when i have the dust, and rest on belinda.
BTW, mirael is even greater than belinda at this level.
So do i reset the non carries? And then upgrade them to lvl 80
my 121 mirael usually does more dmg than 146 belinda
@obsidian bobcat show me your full roster and your crystal
Crystal? Im a noob so i dint understand
ranhorn, crystal ressonant
@hot glade you should not have ascended that rosa, btw
@mortal yarrow
@obsidian bobcat focus on mirael, saveas and arden for ascenssion, till they are legendary A
Ok
dont use base elite heroes though
Ok
base elite are rare. Dont waste them, and even the weak ones sometimes are rebalanced and can become strong. Never ascend someone to legendary if you cant make it legendary +
level Wukong to 100. till your mirael can go higher than him
so, level saveas, mirale, arden and eironn for now, they can reach the highest levels you can for now. As i said, work on making saveas, mirael and arden legendary + only using fodder
link your ukyo to saveas, it will work for seven days
use ukio as frontline or backline cc
put brutus, cecilia, lyca, fawkes and probably anoki on crystal slots for now
Lyca?
qith that you have plenty of uses
you should do something like this. wukong, ukyo/brutus, arden, mirael/saveas, ukio/anoki/fawkes. Cecilia is a wild card, you use her to take away specific heroes from battle for a while
Ok
Wait, she can banish people???
what do you mean? it can be linked to it, as long as saveas is higher asscenssion, wich he is
hiya, this is my current lineup. Iโm on chapter 16 and Estrilda is seriously holding back my lineup (sheโs been stuck at L+ forever), would it be worth using her as fodder to get my Gwyneth to M?
@hot glade nope, but she teleports to the hero and attacks it, taking its attention, and her aura does a 60% dmg debuff
ohh okay
@grizzled thicket nope, and gwyneth is a really endgame hero
@grizzled thicket show us your roster
can you ascend something?
you are probably working your shemira btw, so she maybe should be the one with crystal base roster
nope, only upgrades i can do atm is use gwyneth or estrilda to get raine to M+, or use shemira to get isabelle to m+
as she probably will soon become mythic,. She will carry you a lot after that
none, plz
never use base elites as fodder. And shemira will carry you all the way to 240 if you work on her. Best carry from 160 - 240
i definitely want to get shemira up to mythic, just need the cards for it.
is that account new? or did you buy ukyo?
neither, acc is about 1 and a half years old
is ukyon on trial?
yes
ic. you could link him to one of the mythics in fact. He can work as a frontliner, but he wont be able to be used altogether with the one you link in
who do you think would be best to fuse him to?
SI your focus pve or pvp?
PVE
well, rayne is basically a wrizz hero, for everything else, shes not really good.
yeah ik she's not great, i'd likely replace her with shemira when i can
kaz works for both wrizz and soren, and is nice on lab
belinda is fine and is a carry. After 240 she will be your main carry probably
she's been my focus for dps carry since earlygame since ive been unable to get shemira tbh
isabella is fine on everything, not amazing, but very good
id say rayne
this game is about using your fodder carefully, its always better to have your crystal higher than tons of legendary heroes, make your crystal 5 the higher possible and after that start working on the others. Just never use elite base as fodder
and it sometimes take days to unstuck
its this games nature
yeah, cheers for the help
np
Hey guys, can I get some help with this stage, probably have tried over 50 times ๐
@solar flame
can you level up your shem to 161?
this is what ive used when i cleared that stage.
Shem (Blade)
Belinda (Eye)
Rowan (Call)
Lucius (Drape)
Fawkes (Grace for hp)
ill try that, thanks!
Yw, Goodluck
You can go to afk-guides to search for help, really useful
What should my team be for twisted realms and what should it be for guild boss
Very rarely
@gusty matrix you can check leaderboard do you know where to click?
@gloomy yoke I'm not really an expert but I'd say put lyca and drop ukyo
@gusty matrix for guild boss click on "Log" at bottom right, for TR click on "ldrboard" at top right
I usually try to use as similar to those lineups as possible
Thanks
๐ anytime
Woudnt it be slightly different since certain champs are reliant on sig?
Currently Iโm working on better frontlines but itโs hard when you are basically f2p
@gusty matrix it does but that's the closest you can get. Maybe can go to #545929173471068170 and check out the wrizz recommendations ๐ค
Ok
@gloomy yoke does the Ira and ogi one shot your frontline?
I only have enough fodder to make either a mythic Saurus or an ascended 2* Nemora.. Which should I go for first?
I just passed the level but my frontlines always get one shotted
@ocean trench do you have 5 ascended heroes?
guys im crying my game has become "let everyone die until the rosa either wins the 1v1 with 1hp or dies"
@gloomy yoke anyway side note, next time perhaps you wanna save your fodder until you have 8 copies. I see you have many L heroes
@ocean trench do you have 5 ascended heroes?
@hollow hatch not yet
I would go for nemora
Nemora would be my 4th
depends jfire, if you are chp 25+ nemora tends to be less useful in campaign and you should focus on realm, earlier nemore will be more useful
ill reset/resonate whoever as long as i can have optimal team >~<
Can anyone help me withthis?
put your frontline in the back
@hollow hatch Thanks! @split thicket I'm only on 21 so all good haha
wha
sometimes you don't ascend because nemora needs ascenscions, but for level cap
Anyone?
im crying
@hot glade try
Belinda
Rosaline
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi/ other support
Reset rosaline 100, ascend belinda and level her as high as possible
are rosa + Lucuis FL
FL? also can use mirael as carry instead of belinda if you want
front line
yes
Belinda is already maxxed out
Belinda is already maxxed out
@hot glade ascend her ( or use a different carry such as mirael and ascend her)
I cant ascend either of them
also I noticed you have mehira, you can try
Rosaline
Belinda
Mehira
Lucius
Rowan
Price of ascending Rosaline when you shouldn't have, nothing you can do except wait for fodder. For other units than your carry, you can use resonating crystal to increase their level past their max
So, still reset Rosaline to 100? and then feed the rest tooo mehira?
(also reset estrilda too i guess cuz shes getting replaced by mehira?)
kinda, basically you only want to level 5 heroes, but who those heroes are don't have to be the ones you use, they just have to be 5 heroes with high ascenscions, and fodder heroes are easiest to get to high ascenscions
Example of what I mean, ascend fodder which is easy to get
ohhh
you make highest ascensions high level as possible so you can resonate crystal the ones who cant reach that
Yes this works for all your heroes other than your carry, carry should be 20-40 levels higher than the rest of your team, so has to be ascended by itself as you cant resonate it
uhh "all heroes on the pentagram must be above level 60"
you can't level one a large amount above others, this means that if you reset 2 heros, you have to level them both at the same time
(because game sees lvl 1 hero and limits you from leveling the other until you get that to 60
who did you reset?
Estrilda + Rosaline
Okay first of all, remember you should be leveling highest ascenscions so that you can bypass ascenscion level caps
if you level Mehira you're going to have to reset her again to level from level 100 -> 101
just resonate the rest, and if it doesn't let you level a hero because of "all heroes on the pentagram must be above level 60" just make sure you have 5 heroes leveled and switch between heros you're trying to level back up
so if i reset them all and level up the legendary and the purples with the corner marks that should be the way to do it cuz they get the highest?
technically yes, but before you do that try to ascend fodder heroes as high as possible and level them if they are E+ instead, you will be able to ascend them to L+ very easily compared to Ascended tier heroes
ok so now i have Legendary: Rosa, Tasi, and Shemira.. so then i can safely go ahead and reset..? sorry i just want to make sure
uhhhhh I hate to break it to you but you kinda made a big mistake
welp
ascending Ascended tier heroes to Legendary is how you get stuck, better to ascend foder heroes like mirael, saveas, silvina
but it's not that bad, Shemira is lab store hero, so it's actually fine and you already have rosaline
I interpreted what you said wrong then
you want to ascend the guys that start as blue, not purple
I thought you ment ascend stuff with the fodder >~<
yeah, but it's recoverable, just level highest ascenscions for now that it's already done
as I said shem is fine so you only did 1 ascenscion to L that you didn't already have
I saw people in chat saying she was OP so i thought that was the one i shouldve done
Shem is only good after 161, but sheโs fine to ascend because you can buy her in lab, Tasi is the risky one that could get you stuck
ok 5 level 80s now
Wait, so for my carry to be 20-40 levels above they cant be on the crystal so who'd be the carry
Mirael if you can ascend her, otherwise wait for food for Belinda
so the other 4 would be ? since you never gave a lineup involving her >~<
@novel adder any ideas for this?
Mirael is pretty similar to Belinda both work, just need to put mirael in the middle
Hard for me to write actual lineup cuz on phone now
@outer adder so given your units,its just a positional thing.. i would try
Rosaline
Belinda
fawkes
rowan
Lucius
Im not sure it works.. but i think protecting the fawkes to get the coffin might be good.. if anyone should survive belinda probably would.. I think might be good to have the belinda rosaline side to be on the side where the coffin connects.. i assume its the top eironn. You might want to try call on belinda to get off an ult before ezizh stats locking you out.. but have to do some trial and error
okay thanks ill give it a shot
Carry > tank > support
Belinda ( Carry ) Lucuis (Tank) Rosaline (support) Rowan (Buffer) Mehira (crowd control) ?
Rosaline rowan and Mehira are all supports in your team
but then who gets the most priority from that
Mehira then rowan then rosalina
Need help with 3 teams for legend challenger
Oh
okay so i just got a choice from a hero choice chest: Nemora, Lucius, Khasos, & Nara
(and 10 faction scrolls)
@hot glade go to #classic-questions for a quicker response
But its to let phoenix know >~< hes helping me
@hot glade take Lucius if you haven't got him ascended, then Nara, then Nemora then Khasos.
okay tyy ^~^
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20-32... the longest I've been stuck on any progression. Help! hehe Who am I missing in my formation?
If you look at the lineup you're using, no one can actually deal dmg
So you want to start by having one dmg dealer, a tank and supports to back them up
Maybe try something like
Belinda
-----------Lucius
Rowan
-----------Grezhul
Tasi @sage spoke
Maybe try something like
Belinda
-----------Lucius
Rowan
-----------Grezhul
Tasi @sage spoke
@wheat saffron Thanks, let me try it out
Stuck on stage 10-40, any advice?
No Rowan... but even this failed badly... @wheat saffron
@plush dawn post the stage as well, people normally donโt memorize every stage
@sage spoke Are you close to making belinda A? Not having an overlevelled carry can be a big issue as you can see your tank is dealing the dmg
Yeah sorry about that
@shell igloo try replacing nemora with Lyca, and see if moving saveas to back or Lucius to in front of vedan works
@sage spoke Are you close to making belinda A? Not having an overlevelled carry can be a big issue as you can see your tank is dealing the dmg
@wheat saffron one purple needed to level up
do i just need to level up?
@hollow hatch nah everyone died too fast
@hollow hatch Hey, I should can do mirael on legendary? But for that I have to take Hogon away??
Probably worth it as long as you have a substitute for hogan
Ok
Could someone who is very well versed in team building for campaign levels please message me? Iโm trying to redesign my team
can't kill the Vedan + Niru, it 2 v 5s my team what do I do
Need help too...
Extremely stuck, so far no one has been able to help msg me if u wanna attempt to assist me ๐
@shell igloo too much support... try use belinda - rosa - rowan - luci - saveas or lyca
@opal portal yeah I was thinking about making a full Lightbearers team
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