@modest dirge then i think you answers yourself 😂
#lineup-help
pale kettle
keen meteor
@pale kettle igh and ight means alright
pale kettle
Yes that issue Is more for section #classic-questions but i think It can fit her top being a line up matter as well but still Remember to keep your main damage dealer 20/40 levels above the rest then tankies and finally supports
@sick sail i'll give It a try thanks LD
No luck tho i get nuked beraly
deep wren
Help me form my team of HoEs 🙏
low sable
You're using 2 DPS heroes which is inefficient
jagged pier
low sable
@limber lava
jagged pier
Been stuck here a while :(( Any advice?
low sable
Did you try Nara on Ankhira?
modest dirge
Belinda
Wukong
Saveas
Lucious
Tasi @lean blaze that’s my opinion it’s not hard so don’t worry about dying in Labyrinth
Any ideas I can’t get mira to do double Ulti
nvm beat it lol
jagged pier
@low sable yes but i end up getting shredded by safiya ult
restive lagoon
modest dirge
@restive lagoon #classic-questions
limber lava
Can't get rng to throw the fight for me. Any suggestions?
pale kettle
@shy saddle can u post ur hero box
modest dirge
@limber lava are you getting close at all lol I’m struggling with RNG
deep wren
@limber lava try Lyca and Arden you may get more roots off. I didn’t beat this stage till I leveled all my heroes a little more then you did
modest dirge
Any ideas I’m getting close but Vedan kills me
formal dust
Can anyone send a screenshot/vid of a clear of mauler tower stage 80? Triple Nara + double warek my heroes are infinite cc'ed xd
limber lava
@modest dirge not close at all tbh
shy saddle
these are my relics
pale kettle
@shy saddle try this tasi mehira fawkes lucius and shem front. manual it. use tasi ult first, once tasi ults is finishing use mehira ult. use fawkes ulti once brutus shield comes up
limber lava
Finally beat it with some good tasi rng
modest dirge
@limber lava lucky :((
shy saddle
@pale kettle you’re a god!
pale kettle
@shy saddle ur welcome, make sure u have close to full energy for next fight as well...
@shy saddle ps didnt see rosa... u can replace lucius/ fawkes with rosa for the double ult if u need it
modest dirge
omg I beat it finally
shy saddle
yeah i usually have rosa but my team was being bodied so bad that they didn’t have time for 2 ults
modest dirge
Any ideas
toxic badge
try putting mirael higher since their dps is saveas
small acorn
@grim nova
grim nova
@small acorn thank ya :D
astral jay
@lean blaze shemira always till u get her asceand
@pale kettle try this
Tasi
Lucius
Cecilia
Wukong
Belinda
@modest dirge try this
Fawkes
Wukong
Mirael
Rosalina
Rowan
pale kettle
Ty
astral jay
@deep wren try this
Talene
Shemira
Rowan
Rosalina
Lucius
deep wren
It’s crazy how you do that
It worked first time. The estiralda knocking Rosa back let’s shemira tank for her
astral jay
@deep wren hahaha glad it worked.
ripe cipher
Any suggestions?
silk cosmos
thorny spear
Hi everyone, I’ve been stuck quite a while on this lvl and I see some people with characters 290+ that are on chapter 28. Help would be appreciated :).
astral jay
@ripe cipher try this
Lucius
Rosalina
Rowan
Fawkes
Belinda
@thorny spear use this
Tasi(eye)
Lyca( grace)
Rowan ( call)
Eiron( blade)
Farael ( convinction)
@silk cosmos try Arden instead of Lucius
ripe thunder
Halp please.
thorny spear
@astral jay this is definitely better thanks ! But I can’t get past the 3 Mauler tanks. I’m gonna keep trying though.
astral jay
@thorny spear ok welcome 😊
low sable
Well I made it from 9-23 to this today.
Power is now over double mine
Definitely going to have to wait
astral jay
@ripe thunder Nemo instead of lyca
low sable
Everybody that had passed this stage I'm on used at least level 120 heroes.
I'm honestly surprised I got as far as I have with what I currently have
true sparrow
can i get some help?? they keep melting the rest of my team before ganging up on shem
bright shuttle
@true sparrow try:
Belinda
--Lucius
Rowan
--Shem
Rosa
true sparrow
okay!! one sec
low sable
Ferael will probably be your biggest problem on that stage
ripe thunder
Ended up winning with
Nara, Skreg, Talene, Shemira, Rowan.
Nara kept Ira busy while Skreg stunned and locked down Khasos for a hot second. The rest was basically just waiting for RNG to favor Shemira's survival.
true sparrow
@true sparrow try:
Belinda
--Lucius
Rowan
--Shem
Rosa
@bright shuttle i won!! took 9 tries but i did it
yeah ferael kept killing shem before she could kill the rest of the enemy teams. got lucky on the 9th try cause she was able to ult 4 times before ferael could
rigid badge
bright shuttle
@true sparrow nice!
low sable
You have great supports too. Like Arden and Rowan
Ukyo too. I consider him a support frontline, because he stuns
pale kettle
What lineup do I use for this stage
astral jay
@pale kettle upgarde shemira first 180 than focus on Lucius leveling up. Use Fawkes instead of lyca
pale kettle
Ok
astral jay
@rigid badge try this
Reset Brutus 100 make wukong 110. And use this
Seveas
Wukong
Rowan
Lucius
Solisa
teal glade
Mauler 180 working
teal glade
Idk if that'll do me much. That skriath 30 is such a big gap on what my maulers have access to
hollow hatch
Any ideas?
astral jay
@hollow hatch use this
Tasi
Wukong
Mirael
Rosalina
Lucius
hollow hatch
tried it ~10 times think I just need to level up a bit more, going for mirael 121 spike
Nevermind got it on the 11th try lol thanks Ali
true sparrow
@true sparrow nice!
@bright shuttle thanks so much!
astral jay
@hollow hatch no worries 😊
severe yoke
Current lineup:
Rosa (100)
Belinda (136)
Rowan (120)
Wu Kong (100)
Tasi (127)
When do I move Lucius (100) in to the lineup?
low sable
Probably about now as Wu Kong falls off here
Lucius just synergies better with Rosa and Rowan anyway
In certain setups, Rosa, Rowan, and Lucius are a powerhouse
Need help with King's Tower 120. Only need to beat this stage for a 2700 diamond x10 pull.
modest dirge
Any ideas
low sable
Evolution I'm literally just behind you at 10-4
modest dirge
@low sable you need that Tasi to sleep so I’d say switch with Hogan
low sable
Yeah I think I'm just too weak to do it anyway. Heroes are 22 levels below theirs
Saveas just shreds me
He can one shot
modest dirge
try this
Tasi
(assassin girl idk name)
Mirael
Hogan
Rosaline
low sable
Girl with pink hair? Raine. She won't work her
fiery lagoon
I desperately need some help with my comps, I feel like I can make them better but all suggestions I've received didn't have results that were better than these
maiden cliff
Can anyone help me with my HoE lineups? I've struggled through to D1 but I rarely beat attackers and often struggle attacking too
modest dirge
Any ideas
bright shuttle
@deep wren try:
Lucius
--Talene
Rowan
--Shem
Rosa
bright shuttle
@quick wren Yes, but these questions belong better in #classic-questions
quick wren
Oops sorry thats where i thought i was
deep wren
Does not work 
bright shuttle
How fast does shem and Lucius die?
astral jay
@deep wren use this
Fawkes
Talene
Rowan
Rosalina
Shemira
atomic lodge
or
Rosaline
shem
Rowan
talene
Lucius
astral jay
@maiden cliff can I see what u are using currently. Because I think it's ok with what u have.
U need to get 54m experience with what u have.
maiden cliff
@astral jay current lineups are in the first pic. That's what I use for attacking and most of the time for defence
modest dirge
deep wren
Hit me with your best non Rosa comp. She just doesn’t live long enough to get her ult off no matter the formation
astral jay
@maiden cliff 1st and 3rd team are ok.
2nd team
Farael
Lyca
Eiron
Tasi
Nemora
4th team
Twins
Arthur
Gwenth
Talene
Thane
5th team
Nara
Shemira
Athalia
Thoran
Ezizh
@modest dirge use this
Fawkes
Roslaina
Mirael
Wukong
Rowan
@deep wren this
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Talene
Shemira
U mean general or stage u posted?
fiery lagoon
I need some help with my HoE comps, I think they're good but could be better, previous suggestions didn't prove better than these teams...
merry jackal
Is my team still too weak for this stage? Athalia melts while Tasi locks my Shem , even tho Rowan is stronger 😦
astral jay
@fiery lagoon I think I gave u formations for it? Was not better? I didn't remember what I gave u ? Well wait for someone now they would give u formations for it when they are online.
@merry jackal Belinda instead of shemira . Tasi instead of rosa
merry jackal
@astral jay thanks!
worn kraken
I'm looking for suggestions on Arena team comps. Currently i'm just brute forcing with high power heroes. would be nice with a better synergy team 😅
astral jay
@worn kraken 1st team
Belinda
Rosalina
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
2nd team
Farael
Lyca
Eiron
Tasi
Nemo
3rd team
Athalia
Arthur
Mahira
Talene
Twins
honest summit
I was going to ask for formation help but it seems like everyone is seeking advice 😅
worn kraken
@astral jay I have the challenger teams, just wondering what people would use in the regular 1 team arena? 😅
honest summit
Any way i can make 5 resonable teams with my heroes for HoE?
astral jay
@worn kraken this team
Farael
Lyca
Eiron
Rowan
Tasi
worn kraken
@astral jay will try it out and see if I like it, thanks 😄
fiery lagoon
@astral jay yes you did! But they weren't better :/
modest dirge
@astral jay any ideas
void torrent
Any idea?
worn kraken
@honest summit I would focus on 3 teams and have 2 random teams and go for 3/5 wins.
place the teams so you have faction advantage against the enemies lowest 3 teams.
team 1.
Safiya
Brutus
Eironn
Lyca
Tasi
Team 2.
Fawkes
Rosaline
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
Team 3.
Shemira
Grezhul
Nemora
Thoran
Ferael
modest dirge
Nvm beat it
worn kraken
@void torrent would suggest over leveling your Shemira and use Lightbearer support. Rosaline/Rowan/Lucius/Fawkes
Shemira should be as strong as possible and higher than the rest of your team
honest summit
Got it! Thank you so much @worn kraken
void torrent
@worn kraken I can reset Belinda and make Shemira stronger
worn kraken
@void torrent try doing that. If you keep buying her in Lab store she should carry you well into late game
lilac gulch
Is Rosa, Lucius, Rowan, Gwyn and Wukong a good team?
astral jay
@lilac gulch no
atomic lodge
gwyn behind Arthur +30 is god comp heh
astral jay
2 carries? 🤔
lilac gulch
@astral jay what would be a good LB comp?
void torrent
@worn kraken made it. Any specific place to put my characters?
worn kraken
@void torrent Shemira and lucius front. Rosaline, rowan and fawkes back. try switching around if it helps
void torrent
Okay
worn kraken
@lilac gulch if you are going to use Gwyneth as a carry you kind of need another carry as well that you can switch to. Gwyneth is a solid carry, but against certain enemies she can't do anything and needs to be replaced
void torrent
Shemira does no damage at all
astral jay
@lilac gulch Lucius Belinda Roslaina rowna Fawkes after ch 23 it's great comp
worn kraken
@void torrent how high did shemiras lvl go?
void torrent
141
Rowan dies in first second. Shemira does no damage with her skill.
Maybe I'm just too weak
worn kraken
hmm. well if I do remember, Shemira starts to steamroll after lvl 161 when she gets health from her ultimate skill. So it might be better to use another carry until then unfortunately...
void torrent
Oh, nvm. Rowan survived once. I won. 1 HP clutch
worn kraken
lol congratulations 😆
you could try and use tasi and arden in certain stages, their CC is great
novel jackal
Any ideas for a good line up here?
astral jay
@novel jackal use this
Belinda
Rosalina
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi
modest dirge
Any ideas
novel jackal
@astral jay thank you
forest lantern
Is there any way i can make It? Tryied everything lol
pale kettle
What lineup do I use
forest lantern
@astral jay vampire
final meteor
@forest lantern try nemora to replace Nara and charm ferael
astral jay
@forest lantern yeah try to charm farael with Nemo
@pale kettle try this
Lucius
Roslaina
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes
astral jay
No worries 😊
obsidian island
Can I please get some advice on my 3 teams for Esperia? Is there anything I could change to reach Master? 😦
astral jay
@obsidian island I don't think u could reach Master sorry I can't help you with this
astral jay
@reef hazel use this
Tasi
Baden
Rowan
Shemira
Tidus
reef hazel
@astral jay I will try, thanks
pale kettle
what are the lineup that i can do for the heroes of esperia events ?
astral jay
@gaunt hill yeah I can use these
1st team
Belinda
Rosalina
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
2nd team
Farael
Thoran
Nara
Grezhul
Shemira
3rd team
Twins
Talene
Cecilia
Estrilda
Wukong
4th team
Nemo
Tasi
Solisa
Ulmus
Lorson
5th team
Khazard
Skreg
Eiron
Tidus
Lyca
gaunt hill
@astral jay thank you
pale kettle
3 plz
gaunt hill
@astral jay I dont have khazard in 5th team 😦
astral jay
@gaunt hill I mean zolrath
@pale kettle use these
Lyca
Shemira
Nemo
Brutus
Tasi
2nd team
Belinda
Roslaina
Cecilia
Lucius
Fawkes
3rd team
Seveas
Skreg
Mirael
Thoran/izold
Arden
pale kettle
thanks
white umbra
astral pike
@astral jay
sick sail
@astral pike lucius, shemira, ferael, rowan, rosa
astral pike
They die too quickly
astral jay
@astral pike did u tried with Fawkes?
astral pike
Ye he coffins the gun dude down the bottom
astral jay
@astral pike try this
Rowan
Shemira
Tasi
Roslaina
Lucius
astral jay
@astral pike hahaha good.
pale kettle
i can bring 10 heros to Abyssal expedition who shld it be ?
astral jay
@white umbra use these
Belinda
Roslaina
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
2nd team
Farael
Thoran
Shemira
Baden
Esabella
3rd team
Twins
Talene
Athalia
Wukong
Lorson
Lorson
Skreg
Khasos
Brutus
Warek
4th team
Nemora
Ulmus
Eiron
Tasi
Safiya
5th team
Nara
Hendrick
Gwenth
Grezhul
Numisu
@pale kettle it's not live on global. Idk much about it so I can't tell
pale kettle
@astral jay what about just the 2 strongest team? i believe its LB and wilder?
astral jay
@pale kettle these
1st team
Roslaina
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes/Belinda
2nd team
Farael
Talene/Nemo
Eiron
Tasi
Lyca
pale kettle
thanks ali (: will take that into consideration
astral jay
@pale kettle yeah no worries. These are two strong teams general. Don't know about abyssal
worn kraken
@pale kettle from what little info I could find about the Abyssal. your power will be super boosted by relics that are bound to classes similar to the Elder tree. Might be a good idea to focus on either Rangers or Magicians as carries? would be more efficient on the relic part. Still, since it's not up live yet it's hard to tell.
rapid furnace
any tips on that one?
pale kettle
What campaign team can I do with those ?
coarse cloud
Hey Guys, Current Lineup is: Lucius, Shymera, Belinda, Fawkes and Rowan. Don't know which hero is should give Duras Artifacts. atm i have Grace, Drape, Eye and Call. What do you think?
fading gorge
Feeling down because I'm failing in Lost Sigils constantly. Help?
Hey Guys, Current Lineup is: Lucius, Shymera, Belinda, Fawkes and Rowan. Don't know which hero is should give Duras Artifacts. atm i have Grace, Drape, Eye and Call. What do you think?
@coarse cloud
I gave call to Lucius because I want those shields up asap.
Could give Drape to Shem to increase her healing powers?
coarse cloud
thank you
tiny sierra
astral jay
@tiny sierra use this lineup
Rosalina
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi
@fading gorge which sigils do u need ? LB or Wilder or mouler or gb? Or combine?
pale kettle
What campaign team can I do with those ?
astral jay
@coarse cloud call on Lucius drape shemira ( sometimes grace on her)Rowan grace ( drape if shemira grace) Belinda eye. But u should use Ros instead of Belinda if u have her
@pale kettle this team
Sevea
Lucius
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
@rapid furnace whom tasi banish?
pale kettle
thanks my dude, as always you're a precious help 🙂
astral jay
Hahah its nothing 😊
rapid furnace
@astral jay tasi banishes isabella
astral jay
@rapid furnace so use her instead of athalia
fading gorge
@fading gorge which sigils do u need ? LB or Wilder or mouler or gb? Or combine?
@astral jay
Combine. I'm just trying to get any that I can. None of the elites on offer are really helpful so I'll take any I can get
charred halo
@astral jay Changed my mind, want to get only Graveborn Sigils from the Event. Could you prefer me a good Graveborn Lineup? Or should I use on of these you prefered me mixed with Maulers as the best one? (Nara, Izold, Shemira/Farael, Saveas, Safiya or Seveas, Izold, Nara, Tidus, Safiya)
shy saddle
any ideas?
opal thistle
pale kettle
@shy saddle mehira shld be in the middle. put shem and rosa top and try again
hollow bone
Hey guys have a question, I'm on my alt and I'm really just trying to not mistakes on this one, should I use maerial for fodder and make Belinda mythic straight away? Or just leave Belinda at l+ for now as I haven't any other legendaroes. On chap 10- 22
astral jay
@charred halo yeah u may use gb lineup if u want . Use this
Nara
Izold
Oden
Silvia
Farael with SI ( borrowed)
@fading gorge this
Arden
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Seveas
@hollow bone u don't wanna build shemira? Why u haven't bought her from lab?
hollow bone
@astral jay I've got coins ready, just wasn't sure if I should or just keep going with Belinda.
astral jay
@hollow bone make shemira ur Carry. When u get her mythic level 161. Don't upgrade Belinda to mythic
hollow bone
@astral jay shem wouldn't even survive as an elite though would she?, could I get some lineup help whilst your at it, feel free to add shemira into the lineup but I can only get 1 copy
supple compass
Guys I’m stuck here and I need help
astral jay
@hollow bone wdym? Some lineup help. I already have Gave u lineup. And yeah maybe shemira would survive. But farael with SI would be ur carry.sevea and Arden would be ur Carry
@supple compass show all heroes u have
pale kettle
Hello guys. Can you help me with line up? Got many different Heroes and dont know what to pick
hollow bone
@astral jay I mean like what would you use with my hero's as a lineup as I'm stuck on 10-22
astral jay
@hollow bone I need to see enemies.
hollow bone
astral jay
@pale kettle use this
Seveas
Rosalina
Tasi
Belinda
Nemora
@hollow bone use this
Rosalina
Talene
Mirael
Lucius
Rowan
@astral jay shem wouldn't even survive as an elite though would she?, could I get some lineup help whilst your at it, feel free to add shemira into the lineup but I can only get 1 copy
@hollow bone after level 161 she is great hero and can tank greatly.
hollow bone
@astral jay Thanks homie
supple compass
I’m here now
astral jay
@hollow bone no worries 😊
supple compass
And I’m stuck 😅
astral jay
@supple compass did u try tasi? Instead of Safiya?
pale kettle
So I know that everyone says Saveas is a good carry, but I’m getting bodied hard on 12-8. I have Saveas 141 leg+, and also Silvina, should I swap their level with either lucias, Belinda, or Tasi for the time being?
upper bolt
Any help guys ?
uncut reef
Okay boys help me with this one
fading bramble
Advice? Lots of vids on youtube but my team gets melted(mostly full lb) Brutus and talene feel like the only way, but tough to deal with belinda and safiya ults and then avoiding brutus
odd python
@fading bramble you can try this, looks like you have the heroes for it, if you dont have brutus try thoran
fading bramble
Thanks! Will try that! And do have ascended brutus :)
odd python
yeah brutus works best since hes pretty much guaranteed to hold the top side enemies long enough for belinda to nuke the bottom half, and then its just a bit of luck with enemy brutus invincibility
rancid pelican
Stuck on this one that Kaz is ripping through me!
upper rock
Stuck on this one that Kaz is ripping through me!
@rancid pelican change nemora and saveas
the position
astral jay
@upper rock use this
Belinda
Rosalina
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
astral jay
@final bane use this
Lucius
Rosalina
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
upper rock
@upper rock use this
Belinda
Rosalina
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
@astral jay can't pass
full finch
@final bane
lucius
brutus
belinda
shemira
tasi
how fast does this comp die and who dies first?
dusk nebula
Luc gets his ult off with everyone alive and Bel can take out Ferael but then it goes to pot.
dusk nebula
@full finch tried that, slows down Bels energy accumulation but she's not getting an ult off now anyway
upper rock
@upper rock how many times did u try?
@astral jay 5😂
ok, i'll try w shemira
full finch
try tasi instead of fawkes?
empty pulsar
@dusk nebula can you get shem or Belinda to 240? Any reason for having Belinda instead of Shem?
dusk nebula
@empty pulsar I can get Belinda to 240 slowly, gated by hero xp currently. Also she's pretty awesome
empty pulsar
I found shem to be easier due to her ability to just solo clear levels if she has gotten an ult off or two. You can also try a nemora to charm the ferael, call on lucius.
nova willow
I am stuck right now I chapter 8. Please help me with a lineup that will help
I've been running Lucius, Wu Kong, Tasi, Nemora, Eironn but stuck now
honest summit
27-45 help? anyone ples? 😬
full finch
@nova willow you should get a carry, for you would be best to focus on mirael or saveas and overlevel them
final bane
@full finch worked. @astral jay thanks
full finch
@honest summit honestly my question is: how the hell did you get this far? I'd suggest safiya instead of ferael but she is only M+ so it might not work. honestly have no idea how to help you with this one
final bane
I struggle alot versus grezhul
honest summit
Idk how i got this far either
astral jay
@honest summit try changing tasi and farael places. Which artifact who has wore?
honest summit
Eironn blade, Ferael Eye, Tasi Chalice, Rowan call and Lyca drape
astral jay
@silk bison try this
Belinda
Rosalina
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
@honest summit try tasi eye farael convinction lyca grace
honest summit
I will give it a try 😅
astral jay
@nova willow try this
Belinda
Rosalina
Mirael
Lucius
Tasi
valid holly
Can anyone tell me how to get this?
astral jay
@valid holly try this
Fawkes
Ulmus
Gwenth
Shemira
Roslaina (call)
dim crest
Can i make a good comp from this? Which comp/heros should i Focus? I read saveas, shemira, wild trío...
silk bison
@astral jay thanks but I guess I gotta wait, lucius gets 2 shot LOL
hollow hatch
Any ideas, I may just be under leveled but I’m sure there’s a way to beat it
calm briar
steel tundra
@astral jay should i reset mirael and use her to level Belinda.
Was considering using
Brutus
Lucília
Belinda
Rowan
Rosaline
Think its good?
north trellis
Help with soren please
hexed moon
Help anyone
uncut reef
I request assistance in this mauler madness
odd python
replace raine with whoever, i was memeing @uncut reef
your mistake is youre using shemira lmao
astral jay
@steel tundra yes u can as Belinda is Legendary+. But if mirael is gonna legendary+ soon than no. And put mirael in middle
astral jay
@hexed moon try tasi instead of Lucius. Than instead of talene
@north trellis this
Belinda
Roslaina
Rowan
Baden
Twins( if doesn't have than lorson
@calm briar Fawkes or tasi instead of lyca
@hollow hatch try Sevea instead of Lucius
hexed moon
So just remove lucius and put tasi
astral jay
@hexed moon yeah
odd python
@sand tangle
dps hero (for cleanup)
thoran
hero to pull shem
rowan
fera
fera to proc tasi blink so thoran can hit, enemies should group on thoran naturally, and the hero in pos3 is to cleanup enemy thoran (on the assumption tasi doesnt blink to them and kill them)
sand tangle
@odd python thanks
hollow hatch
saveas?
hexed moon
@astral jay nope can’t still
odd python
mine looked like this
pale kettle
best lineup for wrizz and soren? with saurus
sand tangle
Will try that
hexed moon
@astral jay thx so much it worked
astral jay
@hexed moon no worries 😊
uncut reef
@odd python I get absolutely trashes
odd python
just checking did you set it up as
xxxxx
brutus
rosa
rowan
belinda
you can put fawkes or lyca in there or smth
belinda’s first ult should kill the bottom 3
hexed moon
omg the faction scroll from the chapter gave me my last belinda now that’s my first ascended
astral jay
@uncut reef try this
Nemo
Tasi
Farael
Rowan
Lyca
@dim crest u should focus on Lightbeare . Use this for now
Seveas
Lucius
Mirael
Izold
Nemora
ripe thunder
Advice? I've tried swapping out Skreg for Tasi and Cecilia also, but got nothing.
ripe thunder
Ugh, I can't seem to keep both Tasi and Shemira alive long enough to have their ults active at the same time.
There have been a couple close calls, but Arden always used his ult right before Tasi if I ever get that close, and then Tasi or Shemira or both die.
I'm going to try and beat the next PoT so I can enhance Dura's Call
thorny nebula
Advice for this stage? I can’t burst Arden down before he ults and then my whole team gets wrecked...
Vedan*
ripe thunder
Well, I'd put Shemira on the Frontline instead of Gwyn
thorny nebula
Yea I’ve tried that but shem gets wrecked there too :/
dim crest
@astral jay thanks ,ill try It 
ripe thunder
@thorny nebula Try
Nara
Lucius
Saveas
Rowan
Rose
thorny nebula
Ok I’ll give it a shot thanks 🙂
brisk olive
Anyone got some tips for this pot?
ripe thunder
With only 2 enemies? CC just so much CC. Never let them move.
Nemora, Arden, Tasi, Numisu might work with his totems, etc.
Fawkes works too kinda, but you can't attack the enemy while he has them in the coffin, so other CCs are better.
silk bison
brisk olive
Ty @ripe thunder did it with Fawkes tasi twins rowan
silk bison
this makes it 27 seconds in now with call on lucius, estrilda and safiya just destroy
brisk olive
Just cc’d him and killed Silvina first run and after was easy even though I died
silk bison
its not even a boss level 😭
ripe thunder
Yeah, I don't know how to help you there, Black. I always struggle on similar levels.
honest summit
If you can’t make that with a 299 crystal what chances do i have with 283 😅
silk bison
missing rowan signature item I guess
honest summit
You should go for the red chests from the event
silk bison
@torpid crag that is old estrilda
torpid crag
Haha indeed it is
silk bison
thats the issue
torpid crag
Been a few months since that vid eh. What does estrilda do to Rosaline then? 
silk bison
estrilda either 1 shot my rosa or rowan in full mythic+
and leaves belinda at 1 hp like I said I never got past 30 seconds after 200+ tries now with wilderer or LB
her charge cucks now
torpid crag
Well, it's also a pretty easy eironn level too... At less than 2x power you should be practically one shotting them 
silk bison
he dies to estrilda charge aswell
torpid crag
Safiya is the threat, never felt like estrilda was a threat before and after rework
torpid crag
You can, it's obviously the Brutus preventing dodge
silk bison
I don't think he hits my belinda in the opposite corner
torpid crag
Your Belinda is Merc, it has shit gear
silk bison
mine doesn't fair better
im open to tips but like I said I had enough tries to get max dodge/crits
torpid crag
Lyca Rowan athalia eironn safiya would probably be a good start
Can sub Rowan for nemora if you want charms and higher bonus
Eironn chalice, nemora/safiya with dura's call
silk bison
jesus crist I got it: lyca, tasi, nemora, eironn, rowan just had to have tasi tp dodge estrilda charge, misdirect brutus ult and tp dodge safiya ult
torpid crag
Grats, it was definitely an easy eironn level 👍
silk bison
I had like 150 tries with wilderers before I even asked in discord btw and it never went that well xD
mortal flax
It's super close but shem usually survives
heavy ivy
Any suggestions..? Tried it 10 times not even a close win.
copper mica
Whose sig 30 should I work on next ?
silk bison
eironn
zealous grail
Anyone can help me with my compositions for HoE? I'm currently at diamond 1, 9500 but maybe my heroes can have a better sinergy and i don't know
silk bison
try t1: shem + rowan rosa t2: eironn lyca t3: farael (wukong athalia ) and then match those 3 against the weakest enemy ones keeping synergy and win condition in mind @zealous grail
civic smelt
Any suggestion, im stuck, need to wait for all my character are 240+ ?
zealous grail
astral jay
@gray geyser try this
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Roslaina
Lucius
zealous grail
Will try @silk bison , thanks
astral jay
@civic smelt try this
Roslaina
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes
gray geyser
@astral jay Thanks, who gets what artifact?
astral jay
@gray geyser shemira blade Lucius call Rosa eye Arden grace rowna drape
silk bison
I have this weird 3rd team that is: Farael, Wukong, Athalia, Fawkes and a very weak talene, it's decent for attacking. your nara could go in there too
harsh patrol
Can someone please help me build 3 decent teams to try to hit masters with these heroes? I'm stuck at 9.500 and going up and down all the time
astral jay
@zealous grail how many lineup do. U want? 5 Right?
zealous grail
If possible yes, i know that you really need 3 to push but will help with others too
While the event is on i changed my formations 3 times but keep sitting on 9500, some points up, then some points down but sitting at 9500 at the end of the day
gray geyser
@astral jay Rosa dies before she can even get to Shem. Estrilda stuns her
astral jay
@zealous grail imo these
1st team
Belinda
Roslaina
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
2nd team
Farael
Lyca
Eiron
Nemo
Tasi
3rd team
Nara
Thoran
Mahira
Ezizh
Gwenth
4th team
Twins
Wukong
Athalia
Thane
Safiya
5th team
Estrilda
Brutus
Khasos
Antandra
Cecilia
@gray geyser change Rosa and shemira places
zealous grail
😮 , and you think will work attack/defense or just attack?, btw thanks too
gray geyser
I think I need a different line up than that 😦 Rosa isn't strong enough to live past 8 seconds
astral jay
@harsh patrol these
1st team
Roslaina
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
2nd team
Farael
Lyca
Eiron
Tasi
Nemora
3rd team
Athalia
Arthur
Nara
Grezhul
Safiya
harsh patrol
@astral jay thank you so much Ali
astral jay
@gray geyser try this
Roslaina
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
😮 , and you think will work attack/defense or just attack?, btw thanks too
@zealous grail what do u mean defense/attack?
zealous grail
I mean, setting the same compositions for me attacking and me defending
gray geyser
Still nope 😦 Lyca and Golus jsut shred Shem. I tried moving Rosa and Shem to the bottom and lucius and fawkes up and still getting slaughtered
@astral jay Any other lineup suggestions? Rosa is just too weak at E
zealous grail
@astral jay Just last question, in that order the attack ratings are T1: 3863K, T2: 3734K, T3: 3315K,T4: 2443K and T5: 2981K, do you think that order is ok or should i move them (defense)
pine jetty
I need some help with 14-39. My standard LB team does horribly. The best I manage is with this (still far from beating it)
I can't switch to shemira carry yet, need more fodder
Lucius, Bel, Fawkes, Rowan and rose can't do it
astral jay
@zealous grail 3 teams are strong others are weak but 4th is also good. Just use them no worries. You also said 3 powerful
pine jetty
Any tips will be much appreciated
zealous grail
Yeah, teams are good, i was just asking for the order (defending) first team, second and the next ones, i will put them in that order then, thank you very much 🙂
astral jay
@pine jetty try Lucius instead of Brutus if doesn't work than shemira Instead of Brutus than seves than Thoran.
pine jetty
Hi, yeah I've tried those already. All die to soon to Brutus and Belinda can't survive against his invincibility
I guess I just need to level up my heroes or switch to shemira carry once I get her past legendary (need more fodder)
Just in case I tried them all again, but the fights don't last more than 10 second 😅
tired lynx
@spiral plaza hello, people say you can help with hoe lineups?
pine jetty
Thanks anyway @astral jay !
astral jay
@pine jetty use this
Fawkes
Rosalina
Rowan
Belinda
Arden
charred halo
Need a good Lineup advice from Pros
spiral plaza
@tired lynx yeah I can take a look, dm me your roster 
gray geyser
Still struggling on 16 -16 😦
grim agate
Guessing you haven't managed to pull a talene yet? I doubt I'd have just pushed past 16-16 without her.
astral jay
@charred halo try this
Roslaina
Talene
Rowan
Belinda
Tasi
gray geyser
@grim agate I've got one at E but I didn't think she would make a big difference. She'd just die over and over and not do any damage
astral jay
@gray geyser use this
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
gray geyser
Shem can't live at the top. Golus and Lyca just destroy her
astral jay
@gray geyser good u shout use her (talene)
grim agate
Oh an E talene does make a big difference sometimes. Yeah she dies, but she gives the whole team a big heal when she does.
astral jay
@gray geyser Fawkes would cofin lyca
gray geyser
Fawkes coffins Raine
pine jetty
Fawkes
Rosalina
Rowan
Belinda
Arden
@astral jay Thanks, for the pointer. I tried 10 times but the fights are over very quickly. I feel like I can't do it with my current level/heroes. Do you think a Shemira team could have an easier time with it?
astral jay
@gray geyser use talene instead of Fawkes than
@charred halo Belinda should be level 160 first than level up others . Whom fawkes cofin?
gray geyser
WTF why did that work!? Thanks
charred halo
@astral jay With this Lineup it doesn't work :/ I'll try again with Bel 160
astral jay
@charred halo whom Fawkes cofin? He doesn't cofin anyone?
charred halo
@astral jay Where's Fawkes?
astral jay
@charred halo I mean tasi, whom tasi banish?
charred halo
@astral jay She dies too fast to do something
astral jay
@charred halo use Fawkes instead of tasi
warped scaffold
New to the game. Light spender. Looking for just a general lineup
Safiya will be in crystal in ~4hrs
charred halo
@astral jay still losing. Fawkes banish Morvus
grim agate
Have you read the guides? @warped scaffold If so you'll know that Safiya L is a mistake, since you can't take her to L+ right now. Familiarize yourself with the do's and don'ts cause there are a lot of mistakes to be made in what to feed and when to feed.
warped scaffold
Nope, no guides. Probably shouldve but got lazy. Any worth checking out?
charred halo
@astral jay Did it with leveling up Bel a lil bit, thx
astral jay
@charred halo no worries 😊
@warped scaffold use this
Safiya
Lucius
Mirael
Izold
Cecilia/lyca
warped scaffold
In that order?
astral jay
@warped scaffold yeah
warped scaffold
Roger that, thanks
astral jay
@raw turret merc
raw turret
Merc what?
astral jay
@raw turret try this
Fawkes
Rowan
Shemira
Roslaina
Lucius
vale magnet
does athalia dive still interrupt safiya's starter?
this looks like a comp where you need to prevent them from ulting, so you need to (1) interrupt safiya to prevent them from burst you down early, and (2) energy deny lucius and ezizh so they can't get into a ult denial cycle
dusk nebula
Almost done with the chapter! Any help getting pass the last couple?
vale magnet
try inverting your top and bottom; usually with niru levels, you gotta burst him down first
rowan should be able to frontline this as well if ros can't survive
raw turret
Passed it thanks @astral jay
uneven kettle
Is there a guide anywhere for best team comps per faction and then mixed?
mortal flax
mirael hogan nemora could work just focus on building mirael with fodder heroes
severe yoke
Ty
supple compass
Need help
modest dirge
Any ideas
mortal flax
@supple compass try shemira front lucius back
@modest dirge if you swap mirael with Rosa can mirael ult? Do you have duras call?
modest dirge
@mortal flax ye
silent summit
Which is a better pvp defense lineup?: Eironn/Estrilda/Fawkes/Gwyneth/Lyca, or Arthur/Estrilda/Fawkes/Gwyneth/Lyca?
mortal flax
mirael rosa double ult should be enough or not? @modest dirge
depends arthur is really strong but if the enemies have dive heroes and arthur turns you loose the advantage @silent summit
silent summit
@mortal flax thank you
mortal flax
so if there is thane, athalia etc arthur is kinda meh
modest dirge
nope some times I need to skill that saveas
I get close but then the Isabella just destroys me or the girl with the book and the horse guy is alive @mortal flax
silent summit
@mortal flax how about between Eironn/Estrilda/Fawkes/Gwyneth/Lyca and Eironn/Estrilda/Lorsan/Gwyneth/Lyca?
hollow hatch
Anyone know how I can beat this?
modest dirge
Mira has Eye Brutus has Grace and Rowan has Call @mortal flax
mortal flax
give mirael call
@silent summit I like fawkes more but I gess lorsan fits better in the team
modest dirge
Do I need to swap the team? If I Crit I can kill Saveas but Iseballa kills my mIra next
silent summit
@mortal flax thanks!
mortal flax
@hollow hatch put your carry in front line (mirael) the 30 level difference are super hard that early and rosa will just get destroyed
hollow hatch
I tried that and it kinda works but wukong band thoran die so quick that mirael ults backwards
mortal flax
@modest dirge just reset and try and kill both maybe put mirael on top front line position so she doesn'T get hit by saveas at beginning
modest dirge
so the team would be?
Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Mirael
Rosaline?
shes dying to the saveas
modest dirge
yeah i see shes able to pull double ulti but that damn golus is so tanky lol
mortal flax
yeah he will be useless later on but at that stage he is annoying
modest dirge
she's not being able to kill golus, damn why do they have to make it hard for early chapters putting a LB team against a GB team
mortal flax
Would also need some help 😃
sturdy kiln
bel
eironn
rowan
lyca
tasi
is that ok, or would i need to spread out eironn and bel so the bottom two dont get destroyed?
modest dirge
@mortal flax do i switch back call onto rowan?
mortal flax
you can but I really like mirael with call because she needs that fast ult before she dies
modest dirge
i mean rn shes basically my tank 73k hp
ill do like 10 rounds with Eye and see if i get close
mortal flax
yeah rowans ult is not that strong early on so maybe rosa eye mirael call
@sturdy kiln eironn is super squishy you can but I rather don't like him front line
sturdy kiln
ok makes sense, ty
quaint vector
Can anyone help me with a line up for 8-20v
mortal flax
post a screenshot and I try, sadly I am not ali hassan so it wont be the best advice
quaint vector
mortal flax
can you maybe also post a screen of your opponents you can'T go in chapter and check sadly 🙂
quaint vector
Oh yeah sorry
mortal flax
maybe somthing like hendrik mezoth front were hendrik doens't face a gb shemira rowan wukong but really not sure
pearl zinc
Who should I resonate for Wilder tower tonight? Have 2 open crystal spots
Let's also not talk about how many Kaz I have
sick sail
@pearl zinc none. you just have to save copies of eironn
pearl zinc
@sick sail sorry - who should I place in crystal, not who should I ascend
pearl zinc
@sick sail who should I ascend is the normal question I think :) but Kaz would be a good choice for tower tonight?
sick sail
@pearl zinc yes shes good. Although if you can ascend either gorvo or eironn, they can take her place. Lorsan is also a good pick for wilders for added damage
pearl zinc
Thanks!
empty pulsar
@quaint vector YO WHATS UP!? This is Sherpa/Thegr1n from 134 hahahaha. A good tip as you get started, dont rush heroes to L if you can't make them L+. Saves you fodder in the long run. I would build Saveas to 120.
Kong
Saveas
Rowan
Hendrick
Any
quaint vector
Omfg Hahahaha what up my man
empty pulsar
@quaint vector not much, feel free to ask general questions in #classic-questions and for lineup help here. PM me if you really get stuck.
meager sail
Hi guys, this is currently my Legends Challenger lineup, can this be improved? I have talene and Athalia at L+ the other celestial/hypo are practically non existent
harsh patrol
@astral jay Thank you so much again for the help with the teams for HoE!! I hit masters thanks to you
toxic badge
i see lyca and estrillda together i k now ill be stuck
pine fulcrum
is 28-58 some kind of joke🙃 everything went smooth up to this point and this stage just destroys basically everything in seconds
crystal swallow
Hire a merc?
sick sail
@pine fulcrum it's a gwyneth stage
pine fulcrum
yeah I know but I sadly dont own gwyneth and there is no suitable merc awailable this week (and even with her I doubt it will work since I dont own arthur and tasi who are used a lot in this combination)
cedar copper
Can I get help making a team?
hollow hatch
Anyone know what I should do?
sick sail
wukong lucius, tasi, mirael, rosa @hollow hatch
hollow hatch
Do you mean like this @sick sail
modest dirge
bright geyser
What are the strongest Wrizz setups ATM
sick sail
@hollow hatch no, put them in the order i did
hexed moon
Saurus
modest dirge
any ideas ^^ this is the level everyone is stuck on my friends list I need help lol
sick sail
@modest dirge try rowan, wukong, belinda, mirael, rosa
river oxide
Help
sick sail
lucius, belinda, shemira, rowan, wukong. wrizz
grezhul, shemira, belinda, rowan, wukong. soren
@vast sphinx
vast sphinx
Thank you
sick sail
@lean blaze shemira, tasi, rowan. save copies of eironn, ferael, and safiya for late game (don't ascend them yet since they only shine later on)
lean blaze
for now..what should i use
sick sail
the three i've mentioned. But the carries for early game is saveas and mirael. @lean blaze
sick sail
@lean blaze those five on the top can make a good formation.
brutus, wukong, saveas, tasi, shemira
@lean blaze lucius, wukong, saveas, tasi, mirael. is also good
@lean blaze just play around with what you've got. One formation doesnt suit every stage you'll encounter.
upper cosmos
Help
upper cosmos
How do you get all this powerful friends🤧
Try ascended shemira @deep wren
And roselien
Shemira frontline
deep wren
It’s my second account. I kinda inherited them lol
stray cypress
@novel tusk ey man just asking r u waiting for luc copies for mythic because u can ascend that bel to A?
novel tusk
I'm using morvus to keep my 141 crystal. Was planning on switching him out for brutus once I get past chapter 14 so its gonna be really big to beat this stage lol
stray cypress
Oh okay didnt notice that
Maybe try rowan belinda frontline then fawkes eirron and rosaline in backline?
novel tusk
Yeah I've been sitting on morvus for the better part of chapter 14 it's really tempting to just fodder him now
I'll try it out thanks!
stray cypress
Cuz were the same in starting heroes. Been using that formation for eirron to suck them in mid and belinda to nuke them
novel tusk
Yeah it's not working lol. I can't even survive long enough to get off a belinda ult without getting decimated by the mirael/enemy belinda
stray cypress
Who does fawkes coffin?
novel tusk
coffins mirael but it doesn't last long enough since my lucian can't even attack before getting cc'd to death
stray cypress
How about
Fawkes
bel
Eirron
rowan
Luc?
Because in those type of stages ive been using this formation and it kinda works?
novel tusk
I'll try it out ty
stray cypress
Or you can swap out the luc for other support heroes maybe the arden or a lyca
silent orbit
astral jay
@astral jay Thank you so much again for the help with the teams for HoE!! I hit masters thanks to you
@harsh patrol no worries 😊
@silent orbit use this
Khasos
Niru
Mirael
Ogi
Nemora
@flat minnow try this
Nara
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
astral jay
@novel tusk try this
Lucius
Roslaina
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes
@river oxide try this
Rosalina
Talene
Rowan
Tasi
Belinda
novel tusk
wtf that worked first try.. you absolute legend lol
astral jay
@stray cypress try this
Lucius
Roslaina
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes
wtf that worked first try.. you absolute legend lol
@novel tusk hahaha thank you 😊
river oxide
@astral jay relic wise?
drowsy canyon
I know I am early fam but who should I focus on levelling
stray cypress
@astral jay ty mate!
river oxide
@drowsy canyon belinda is a great carry
astral jay
@river oxide Rosa grace talene drape Lucius call Belinda eye. Tasi call. If doesn't work than Rosa call
river oxide
@drowsy canyon I've also heard shemira is nice as well
@astral jay I also have blade now
drowsy canyon
Thank you @river oxide just don’t want to waste resources on someone I shouldn’t
spring violet
suggestion? main line up is that setup, but shem and rosaline swapped places.
modest dirge
Any ideas?
flat minnow
@astral jay it doesn’t work, fawke catch lyca and sher is killed by kar, lucius killed by saveas ulmus
Tks for your help, do u have another suggestion
astral jay
@river oxide Belinda blade Rosa eye
@spring violet Arden instead of Belinda
@flat minnow I think u need to use Merc
modest dirge
edit ^^^ I can take 2 of them out towards the end but that is only when my mira is last one and i cant take out the vedan niru and golus
spring violet
Alright will try
astral jay
@modest dirge wukong instead of Brutus
modest dirge
@astral jay I mean ill try it but Wukong would just get 1 shot he doesnt even live that long to even get ult xd
astral jay
@modest dirge try this
Fawkes
Wukong
Mirael
Rosalina
Rowan
astral jay
@modest dirge try this
Fawkes
Roslaina
Mirael
Rowan
Arden
plucky forge
modest dirge
@astral jay same result should I try the first team you suggested to me with a Brutus?
astral jay
@modest dirge yeah u may
snow kraken
What hero is the best to buy from the labyrinth store I'm new to the game
modest dirge
@snow kraken Imo Shemira and ask in #classic-questions
snow kraken
Okay
deep wren
Sometimes it’s Vedan V talene Shem and Lucius sometimes it’s Vedan V Shem and Saveas but no matter what he can’t kill shemira but does run the timer out
What’s the best vedan counter. I don’t really have any anti energy champs built
astral jay
@deep wren try Rosa with call instead of lorson.
hollow hatch
Any ideas?
low sable
This one is going to be tough. 10-12.
@hollow hatch Put Ukyo toward Niru, it might stun him as he ults so he doesn't cast
night gorge
okay guys i need some pointers concerning teambuilding for heroes of esperia. Apparently im so bad that even an exact same copy of the opposing team loses despite higher power.
Can you guys give me some pointers towards 3 strong teams with what i have?
currently using a pure lb team, a pure wilder team and a few mixed teams, but apart from the LB team they usually lose against 10k weaker team
low sable
A lot of this game is actually pure RNG. Skill will get you halfway there, the rest is pure luck
night gorge
But pure luck has me pitting 34k teams against 22k teams and losing 3/3 times
low sable
I'm not even at HoE yet. I'm only in chapter 10 so I can't really help
However, you have to know hero synergy, so this game in PvP requires a bit of a skill floor
night gorge
Well i am actively trying to pit teams with faction advantage against the opponent and to keep my team power over his, but that still leaves me with a rather bad track record
low sable
It's synergy that's probably lacking
astral jay
@night gorge use these
1st team
Belinda
Rosalina
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
2nd team
Farael
Lyca
Eiron
Tasi
Nemo
3rd team
Athalia
Arthur
Nara
Thoran
Safiya
4th team
Twins
Wukong
Mahira
Talene
Esabella
5th team
Gorvo
Hendrick
Vurk
Warek
Skraith
night gorge
arthur and nara are linked, any recommendation as alternative?
low sable
What should I build for Legend's Challenger?
I'm not sure I'm even strong enough to do anything
astral jay
@night gorge I think u should make Arthur link Brutus. Nara is so useful on pvp as well as Arthur. But Brutus is not much useful
@low sable use these 3 team
1st team
Fawkes
Rosalina
Mirael
Hogan
Lorson
2nd team
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
Wukong
Nara
3rd team
Nemo
Estrilda
Belinda
Rigby
Shemira
low sable
I don't have crystal slots lmao
astral jay
@hollow hatch try this
Tasi
Lucius
Mirael
Wukong
Roslaina
low sable
I literally just got into Chapter 10 like a day or two ago
I've been pushing campaign very hard
astral jay
@low sable so what? U need to put heroes with 1 level than. Or don't put the heroes which are 1 level just put ones who has crystal level. Leaves spots alone
full finch
can I get some help with my heroes of esperia teams so I won't be demoted to D2 again?
muted rapids
Hmm if a Gwyn LB set up vs Belinda LB set up, which one is better u think? Pretty much belinda right?🤔
astral jay
@muted rapids sometimes depends on situations. But I would prefer Belinda. Gwenth is great with Arthur
@full finch yeah u may
quaint phoenix
When I was pushing to masters my Belinda LB team won against Gwyn LB teams when they didn't have a Mauler team to attack @muted rapids
astral jay
@stone cairn use this
Shemira
Talene
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
stone cairn
thank you
muted rapids
Fawkes in Belinda set up counters Gwyn most of time imo, if Gwyn is on def side.
full finch
This is my hero pool @astral jay
my teams are pretty bad:
shemira, thoran, kelthur, nara, fawkes
tasi, estrilda, belinda, lyca, nemora
khasos, brutus, ezizh, athalia, safiya
ulmus, skregg, rosaline, rowan, eironn
lucius, kaz, ferael, wukong, talene
astral jay
@full finch use these
Belinda
Fawkes
Rowan
Luciuse
Rosalina
2nd team
Athalia
Lyac
Kelthur
Tasi
Nara
3rd team
Safiya
Thoran
Farael
Arthur
Lorson
4th team
Twins
Wukong
Talene
Skreg
Ezizh
5th team
Khasos
Brutus
Eiron
Ulmus
Estrilda
full finch
arthur is locked with lyca, so I can only use one of them - should I rebind him to nemora instead?
astral jay
@full finch bound him with Brutus.
digital pollen
Need help?
full finch
he will go from 2* to 0*, that does not matter you think? @astral jay
night gorge
@astral jay thanks a lot mate! That was the last push i needed!
carmine vapor
need some help for this I am stuck
digital pollen
@full finch
astral jay
@night gorge haha gzzz welcome 😊
@carmine vapor show all heroes u have
@full finch yeah that doesn't matter much
digital pollen
@astral jay. I need help on chapter 28-26
astral jay
@digital pollen let me check if I have ss for it
carmine vapor
what why do I keep getting blocked for sending explicit content which is champ ss
digital pollen
Okay thanks
copper urchin
How pass this ?
astral jay
@carmine vapor do u have Fawkes or tasi and which ascend level?
astral jay
@carmine vapor try this
Rosalina
Lucius
Talene
Rowan
Gwenth
@copper urchin try changing tasi and eiron places
muted rapids
@astral jay 🤔 I'm trying to build up some good teams for pvp and event... U have any suggestions.
upper cosmos
Help
muted rapids
astral jay
@muted rapids show ss of ur all heroes
carmine vapor
hmm, talene insta dies to athalia, rowan hangs on for a bit then dies, and then assassins take out gwyneth then gg from there @astral jay
astral jay
@upper cosmos try this
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora (charm farael)
Lucius
Rowan
upper cosmos
Were should i put nemora
astral jay
@upper cosmos put Nemo on Middle.
copper urchin
@astral jay eiroon can resist
full finch
@astral jay same setup for offense I guess, right? thanks for your help
stone cairn
@astral jay https://youtu.be/MqPJlmR1t6s this is basically how ever battle goes, is it just rng ?
muted rapids
@astral jay 5 teams line up
upper cosmos
@astral jay slivina kills nemora and lucise doesn’t ult
copper urchin
@astral jay is dead instany
astral jay
@upper cosmos has Lucius wear call?
upper cosmos
No
carmine vapor
@astral jay I got lucky and got rowan to A, and cleared the stage barely, thanks
digital pollen
@astral jay. What artifacts did you use on the ss you sent me?
stone cairn
ok thanks
astral jay
@digital pollen Lucius Charli Rosa call shemira blade Rowan drape Fawkes convinction
upper cosmos
Even with the call he doesn’t ult @astral jay
Nemora dies before charming feral
She is useless
If i put fawkes he coffin feral
full finch
@astral jay I mean same 5 teams to use both in defense when I am being attacked by others and for others when I attack others
astral jay
@muted rapids use these
1st team
Belinda
Rosalina
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
2nd team
Farael
Tasi
Eiron
Lyca
Nemora
3rd team
Nara
Grezhul
Shemira
Izold
Baden
4th team
Gwenth
Arthur
Thane
Estrilda
Raine
5th team
Talene
Seirus
Mahira
Ulmus
Twins
@upper cosmos use Thai
Talene
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
@full finch when u attack others. Team can be changed by seeing synergy of enemy.
upper cosmos
I did it with fawkes instead of nemora thanks for helping 🙏 @astral jay
muted rapids
Ty @astral jay
astral jay
No worries guys
copper urchin
@astral jay yes eiroon blade
astral jay
@copper urchin have u seen other players play ?
copper urchin
yes
full finch
@astral jay ok, got the defense team set. but how can I use both arthur and brutus when they are linked? last time I tries to use lyca in one team and arthur in another it did not let me
astral jay
@full finch don't use Brutus than use Nemo instead. Use this 5th team
Khasos
Estrilda
Eiron
Ulmus
Nemora
modest dirge
Usually it’s just Vedan Niru and Golus last alive
full finch
@astral jay thanks !
astral jay
@full finch no prob 😊
spring violet
Estrilda and the Hypogean mage usually wipes half of my team within 10s of battle with Shem and Rosaline (with low hp) remaining.
Fawkes coffins Mirael
Arden's root cc is kinda 50/50
slim imp
hollow hatch
Can anyone help?
full finch
@astral jay and it was just in time, got 104 points on defense against much stronger opponent 😄 you sir (or lady) are a hero !
clear saddle
probably need to charm the ferael
clear saddle
could try with shemira rowan frontline and lyca nemora tasi back or something
it's just rng
meager sedge
what about good old saf eironn? i wonder if that would work on lower stages aswell
clear saddle
Ascensions a bit low imo, but could try that if others don't work
carmine vapor
@static wing ive tried out
tasi
rowan
belinda
lucius
brutus
they still get wiped, and my lucius dies first before being able to ult
astral jay
@astral jay and it was just in time, got 104 points on defense against much stronger opponent 😄 you sir (or lady) are a hero !
@full finch no worries thank you 😊
static wing
i meant go for tasi instead of brutus and keep rosa
carmine vapor
ohh
upper cosmos
Can you see my stage if you could help @astral jay
carmine vapor
so I have to dodge athalia's entrance?
static wing
someone else advised u to replace rosa, however i think this still wont be enough, but lets see where it gets us
yes, tasi has to survive it and than cc her
also put grace on tasi
carmine vapor
ok I will try that, rng bless pls
astral jay
@upper cosmos try this
Fawkes
Lucius
Nemo (charm farael)
Shemira
Rowan
upper cosmos
Nemo is charming burtus not farael
static wing
@astral jay are u here 24/7 my man?)
what lvl on the server do u have already?
astral jay
@full finch and yeah I am boy 😄
carmine vapor
@static wing what are the chances of dodging, my tasi so far gets one shot 30/30 attempts XD
astral jay
@astral jay are u here 24/7 my man?)
what lvl on the server do u have already?
@static wing wdym? 24/7?and level of server. Yeah I am here
@ivory current show all heroes u have
static wing
@carmine vapor well thats where the rng comes in. Idk though if gwen is gonna be able to kill atha, do u have estra btw?
also post it here, so brother ali hassan can help u, hes a guru at helping with line ups))
ivory current
full finch
@astral jay you think I can bother you with a lineup for arena and challenger tournament as well? should I just use those top 3 teams or would it be better to change a bit?
carmine vapor
alright I will post my heroes
static wing
@astral jay i mean whenever i open lineups ur here, helping people, this 24/7 meaning 24h , 7 days a week.
carmine vapor
static wing
post the stage sss too @carmine vapor
astral jay
@static wing hahaha 🤣 I sleep for some hours. But except sleeping I am here all time
carmine vapor
deep wren
Who should I bring to 141 Arden or Rowan
carmine vapor
my bad have to send them one by one, for some reason im blocked from sending images
upper cosmos
I did it with rose thanks for your support guys
carmine vapor
but yeah @static wing @astral jay thats my full heroes
static wing
@astral jay i see instead of making an alt , farming made u get into helping everyone? 😄
astral jay
@static wing hahaha make Sense
static wing
try bela luci rosa rowan brutus
astral jay
@carmine vapor Merc Arthur
static wing
@astral jay hitlcliff lorsan as profile, i think mine is free
^ meant to tag u @carmine vapor
carmine vapor
wdym by hitcliff lorsan?
static wing
my in game name is hitlcliff and my profile is loran (i have multiple accounts)
also be carful, its not hitcliff, its hitLcliff
carmine vapor
oh i see i see
astral jay
@deep wren have I tried Fawkes? Whom fawkes cofin?
carmine vapor
alright I found you
deep wren
Fawkes coffins Vedan but no matter the comp in the end Shemira and Vedan are the only characters alive after a minute and the last 30 seconds are just the two of em Goin at it till the timer runs out
I think I just have to upgrade Shem a lil
static wing
Any ideas ? @astral jay
P.s: my gear is extra bad, so i have to try hard even with a small lvl gap
@carmine vapor check if hes free, if he is, send the request
carmine vapor
yep I sent the request
try bela luci rosa rowan brutus
@static wing killed everyone except thane and athalia
static wing
if u go arthur i assume he wanted to to gwen
try luci arthur rosa gwen rowan to start with
astral jay
@static wing try this
Talene
Lucius
Rowan
Rosalina
Belinda
full finch
@astral jay can I bother you with a lineup for arena and challenger tournament as well? should I just use those top 3 teams you suggested or would it be better to change a bit?
static wing
@astral jay ily 
astral jay
@full finch yeah I can but please wait a little bit.
full finch
sure, take your time
carmine vapor
I tried
rosa
arthur
gwen
rowan
lucius
@static wing @astral jay best result was the same, thane and athalia survived and then wiped my team
astral jay
@carmine vapor try this
Gwenth
Rowan
Fawkes
Arthur
Rosalina
carmine vapor
@astral jay hmm this one didnt work out so well, probably since my fawkes still E+, rosa dies immediately then team gets wiped afterwards
astral jay
@carmine vapor use talene instead of Rosalina. Tasi instead of Fawkes
@deep wren yeah so just wait q little bit. And upgrade her if u want. But I think rng would do it.
carmine vapor
@astral jay talene dies first, then arthur, rowan only arthur and gwen managed to ult
honest summit
Any idea what team i should use for soren? I don’t have a baden, cecilia or saurus 😣
astral jay
@carmine vapor whom tasi banish?
@honest summit use this
Twins
Belinda
Rowan
Grezhul
Roslaina
carmine vapor
@astral jay tasi banishes athalia first then belinda
astral jay
@carmine vapor what artifact who has wore?
honest summit
No chance, i can’t even hit 300 mil
carmine vapor
@astral jay lucius - drape, arthur - chalice (merc), tasi - grace, rowan - eye, gwyn - blade
astral jay
@carmine vapor use this
Gwenth (blade)
Rowan (grace)
Tasi ( call)
Arthur
Talene (drape)
static wing
@astral jay any ideas sensei ?
carmine vapor
@astral jay best case scenario: everyone manages to ult but thane and athalia remains to wipe out my team, talene revived 3 times only to get one tapped everytime by athalia
violet igloo
@static wing you can see what other people used in that battle, and look at how heroes are positionned. Keep trying it'll work eventually 👍
true sparrow
could i get some help?? this is my alt account. i've retried a bunch but vedan, saveas and isabella are big pains
static wing
@violet igloo most standard packs dont work to me due to the gear deficit, ty though
astral marsh
violet igloo
@static wing doesn't matter, it'll still work. Composition and position is more important than gear
astral marsh
Need help for this one :(
violet igloo
@true sparrow try
Fawkes
Lucius
Mirael
Rosa
Arden
static wing
@violet igloo well for example some stages fawk is frontlane, with decent gear at this lvl he has around 600-630 dodge, mine has 300, thus leading to him getting one-shotted by anything
u got the point
yeah, im trying positions and compositions
ty though!
violet igloo
@astral marsh try
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Nemora needs to charm ennemy arden
astral marsh
Thanks, i'll try
violet igloo
it'll requires lots lots of retries 🙂
astral marsh
As always with wilders xD pray for RNG's wilder !
sand veldt
Hi, guys! Can u help me? Plz
violet igloo
@sand veldt have you had a look at what other people used in game by clicking on the "stage info" button ? It'll give you an idea of hero placements, especially for thoran cheese
true sparrow
@true sparrow try
Fawkes
Lucius
Mirael
Rosa
Arden
@violet igloo i just tried, 15 replays and still can't beat em :((
violet igloo
keep trying : )
sometimes it'll have to be 300+ retries. If you don't feel like it, maybe wait for more levels on your hero.
carmine vapor
@static wing @astral jay tried a different team, after roughly 70-90 attempts, with triple shem ult and triple lucius ult, I have done it
static wing
@carmine vapor gzgz
sand veldt
@sand veldt have you had a look at what other people used in game by clicking on the "stage info" button ? It'll give you an idea of hero placements, especially for thoran cheese
@violet igloo
yes, I looked, but options from “stage info” did’t suit me. I thought there could help me)
violet igloo
@sand veldt maybe this ?
astral jay
@static wing whom Fawkes cofin?
sand veldt
@violet igloo aww, thank u!!! I won! But I just changed line a little)
next sage
Ive been stuck at 16-20 for weeks. Not making any arcane tower progress either. What should I be changing? Or am I just waiting on an new ascensions?
astral jay
@next sage u should use Merc to pass it. And use this team general
Rosalina
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
violet igloo
@sand veldt grats) well done
next sage
@astral jay even though my Fawkes isnt ascended at all? Just throw him on resonating crystal?
astral jay
@next sage yeah put him on crystal and use him
@astral marsh try this
Lucius
Talene
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes
full finch
@astral jay if you are free now, I'll be bothering you again 🙂
cursive jasper
@astral jay @violet igloo you guys got tips for this one?
full finch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/715097786781138954/Screenshot_20200527-085018_AFK_Arena.jpg
recommendation for arena and challenger tournament teams, you already did recommend 5 teams for heroes of esperia so the question is if I should take top 3 teams or if it should be mixed a bit
astral jay
@cursive jasper Fawkes instead of Brutus
violet igloo
@cursive jasper well, you already have a DPS that is Shemira, so I wouldn't recommend playing Belinda in your team. Putting a Nemora to charm ennemy Arden is a good idea.
cursive jasper
Got it 😄
astral jay
@full finch use these
Roslaina
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
2nd team
Twins
Ezizh
Farael
Wukong
Talene
3rd team
Nemo
Lyca
Eiron
Tasi
Safiya
4th team
Kelthur
Thoran
Nara
Shemira
Athalia
5th team
Khasos
Brutus
Estrilda
Ulmus
Lorson
cursive jasper
Thanks a lot guys!
atomic lodge
ali
cursive jasper
Should I get shermira her personal item above 20+? Or keep it like that
winter matrix
Stop upgrading it
cursive jasper
Who should I focus on, Rowan?
atomic lodge
yeah
winter matrix
When you get his SI, yes
cursive jasper
What is si?
cursive jasper
Ah ye I need him mythic first almost there 😛
atomic lodge
nice, mine is still E 
cursive jasper
What about faction scrolls, lightbringer?
cursive jasper
1 more Brutus for ascend aswell but I feel like it’s a waste of using scrolls on maulers
atomic lodge
yeah, untill u collect enough dust to make ur all heroes to 240 and start upgrading the crystal u should get him to ascended, yeah i would go for lightbearer too
unique epoch
Hello, an idea please ??
winter matrix
@unique epoch
unique epoch
Thanx !
astral jay
ali
@atomic lodge yeah
full finch
@astral jay I meant 1 best team for arena (probably the LB team) and 3 teams for the tournament. still should I use the top 3 teams you mentioned?
atomic lodge
do u have any idea how to beat the forgotten mines bosses or i should level my heroes more
lofty depot
Which boss? @atomic lodge
atomic lodge
they are absolutely broken, 10M power per battle
winter matrix
Forgotten mine is the last PoT right?
lofty depot
You should fire the cannon at the last boss to kill them, the boss at the bottom
atomic lodge
the top one
lofty depot
Oh, do you have firebringer and Icebringer? Show us the boss and your lineup
atomic lodge
astral jay
@full finch oh ok for arena this
Athalia
Kelthur
Rowan
Tasi
Nara
lofty depot
I meant show us the boss lineup
astral jay
@atomic lodge it's an hard one just borrow 30 SI talene. Can u ?
astral jay
@full finch for challenger
1st team
Nara
Shemira
Kelthur
Thoran
Farael
2nd team
Athalia
Lyca
Rowan
Tasi
Lucius
3rd team
Fawkes
Estrilda
Talene
Ulmus
Safiya
@atomic lodge try to win this with 30 SI talene. Every one should have full energy. Use tasi with full energy instead of Lucius
atomic lodge
ok ill try
full finch
@astral jay thank you very much !
toxic badge
over 40 retries closest ive been is lucious cast ulti followed by shemira and nemora...
my shem usually cast ulti but dies a second after
i used mercenary at early stage 14 where it allowed me to go uninterupted almost till noq
astral marsh
@astral jay First try with your advice. So much thanks ! Talene is incredible OP o.O
pale kettle
What lineup do I use?
toxic badge
@pale kettle estrilda and lyca together its just super hard
pale kettle
Ic
pale kettle
Ok
I’ve been quickly passing through the other stages for a good few minutes then I’m in a bubble again 😔
lean blaze
full finch
I'd suggest to use Arden and hope for a good cc
lean blaze
Is my saveas too high level making the team. Unbalance
pale kettle
no but the way you're leveling your heroes makes me cringe
lean blaze
Y
pale kettle
you're supposed to be leveling you five highest ascended heroes
lean blaze
What u mean
pale kettle
how are you getting confused 
final bane
I can’t tank enough. Grezhul is unkilable, silvina rips any healer and that’s pretty much it. Dead in 10s...
pale kettle
for your situation, yes
@final bane have you tried one of the lightbearer supports? they can tank silvina's initial jump. also, why do you have morvus on crystal
final bane
Hendrik was useless. For the lightbearer tower
pale kettle
maybe because you're just ascending to random heroes just to ascend them
final bane
What could I do better ?
I’ve been playing for a while but like with no effort I was just playing to have fun with my little cousins but now I started to like the game and I’m trying to improve !
pale kettle
Can someone help me
don't make L heroes if you can't immediately take them to L+
K
crude thicket
try this @final bane
tasi
shemira
nemora
lucius
lyca
nemora needs to charm ferael so your shemira can get ulti off
scenic girder
