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please, somebody send help asap
@nimble turret try shem Rosa, fawk rowan Lucius, and Rosa to follow shem
Can't seem to be able to go past any brutus stage on the divine realm peaks of time, hjelp please
@dense timber Who does fawkes normally coffin?
Usually bottom or top backliner, i tried to change his position in case thatd help in case of attack rating tie but no luck on that and it makes him melt as well @bright shuttle
try placing shem opposite of brutus with rosa behind, and have fawkes top right @dense timber
Rowan middle back, and Estrilda as other frontline @dense timber
ok ty will try, ty once again
@languid plaza try putting wukong and saveas on the crystal and go:
Fawkes
Lucius
Merial (or however you spell it)
Wukong
Saveas
What's the best tower formation I can make with the units I have available
Best line for soren? Can only do about 300m,i feel like I should do more
@calm basalt I use this personally
- Lucius
- Belinda
- Shemira
- Rowan
- Rosalina ( follows Belinda)
Can anybody tell me if theres a better lineup considering late game/end of mid game?
@tawdry elbow there are so many line ups
Rn i have nemora, mirael, tasi, w-k, lucius
Unfortunately the only way I can get Rosalie to follow Belinda is by leaving off a significant amount of gear for shem and lucius
@calm basalt Rosalina can follow shemira at the fight if you wanna it is also good
@outer adder well tower is dependent on what you have and mostly positioning and small subs..
you should probably go with eironn, tasi, nemora lyca arden team atm.. then some stages you may need to swap out one of them for ulmus/lorsn/solise depending on the needs of the stage
@novel adder eiron and lyca as the frontline generally ?
@outer adder sometimes haha.. but eironn mid back is a good starting place to pull in 3 with some safety.. generally you position him to suck the most dangerous enemies to snipe them off..
@tawdry elbow for now I suggest this for you as the heroes you have
- Wukong
- Lucius
3.arden - Tasi
- Seveas
But j wanna say for late game focus on these heroes
1 Lucius, 2. Rosalina, 3 Rowan, Belinda, Fawkes in Lightbeare
i understand, okay thanks sorrowin
@astral jay ah i see
Thanks
Hey I need some help I keep losing in arena any help
@fringe flume you are just new you don't have good heroes to suggest good formation
Ok like what
@fringe flume use Fawkes instead of Brutus or nemora it would must help you
What about mehira
@fringe flume she is good hero and useful but I don't think she can be used in arena
Ok
just returned after a long long break, and wondering if its normal for Shemira being stronger alone than with a team?
@sharp holly shemira can fight alone what is difference between enemy and shemira?
they are the same'ish level,low groups were 135 i think, final fight was 171 and my shemira is 160
it was in the forests edge, i was struggling till i lost a couple of heros and shemira just started wrecking
Best team for maulers ?
Overlevel Talene
Twins
Talene
Eironn
Skreg
Nemora
@winter matrix thanks
@winter matrix how can i make them yellow?
By foddering 2 E+ fodders to them
But dont make heroes L if you can't L+ them immediatelly!!
Anyone know the best team out of this?
@jagged olive stop making so many L heroes out of A tier. See the guide by Paddy pinned in #classic-questions.
Do you have an E Rowan?
@jagged olive There is no such thing as "Best team", you will need to change your formations many times throughout your AFK career.
In my opinion, Belinda, Arden, Solise, Lucius, and Thane would make a proper faction bonus team and have the utility from shields and roots they need to power through matches, but you'll always need to change, so make sure you're flexible enough! ^^
@empty pulsar yeah
@jagged olive awesome, put Rowan in your crystal and you can run
Fawkes
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Rosa
Okay thank you both
Is it possible to beat without fawkes?
@chilly spruce Yes! Try this:
Nemora (charm Safiya)
Tasi
Lyca
Athalia
Lucius
With Athalia dashing at Skreg, he will not generate any energy, and will stay unmounted a little longer, Tasi can avoid damage until debuffed, and will teleport, make sure the RNG is proper.
If Safiya will be charmed multiple times (*And if lucky, while she is channeling her ult), you are pretty much guaranteed to win.
You also gain a 4 wilders (3+celestial) faction bonus.
Good luck!
Okay thank you 
@pale kettle I would reset lucius and shem to 140(1) and put Belinda to 180
Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Tasi/nemora/Lyca (I personally use fawkes here).
Alternatively you can reset Belinda and lucius and put shem to 180.
Wouldnt they die too fast then?
I'm assuming you are somewhere around Ch 16?
Also i have talene, shouldnt i use her? Im at 17
Should be fine at 17 too. You really want your carry as high as possible. I don't personally use talene in campaign, TR and KT only.
Ok im going to try and reset them, if you say they're not gonna get nuked
Assuming you have some M gear by now, they should be fine. Shem doesnt need 161+ since you wont be using her if you push Belinda
@pale kettle I didn't get a 180 crystal until I was in Ch 18, and you can push through Ch 20 with one.
Ok thanks man, i thought many times about reseting them and maxim belinda but i was afraid they gonna get nuked. Already pushed 2 stages now
:) you will want to get Lucius to 160, then Rowan, then rosa, lastly your shem to break the 160 barrier. Then you can add levels to lucius while you get to the 180 point, and can do either Belinda or shem (if A) to 220.
Yea i'll do this, thanks man, anyway with the exp left from belinda i already have 160 lucius
Who is your 180? Did you switch to shem?
@pale kettle I'm getting off to sleep, if you are using shem now, and hit a wall, you can put Belinda to 200 with a 160 crystal and push through it. GL
Belinda is 180
Sorry to bother you guys but the top row is my usual lineup, does anyone have any suggestions for a better one?
I've only been playing for a few days
@loud lark you will get Belinda soon so set her up in your lineup and after some days ask again you have nothing good to suggest
Thank you!
@analog jackal whom tasi freezes?
Belinda or shemira to 180?
Ankhira
@pale kettle who is your main? Belinda has great use after ch 23 before ch 23/24 shemira is carry
Well obv belinda is my main but of shemira is better..π€·ββοΈ
@analog jackal use this
- Lucius
2 Shemira - Tasi
- Rowan
- Rosalina
@pale kettle so you can up your Belinda if she is doing good job for you or make your Lucius 161
@astral jay shem dies from saveas :(
@analog jackal use this
- Rosalina
- Shemira
- Tasi
- Rowan
- Lucius
@pale kettle you need tasi or Fawkes to beat this
@astral jay if you have resource make Lucius 161
I have tasi
@pale kettle can you make Lucius 161?
Not yet
@pale kettle use tasi instead of talene first if doesn't work than use tasi instead of Rosalina
I cant get my talene of my team cuz shes the one keeping them alive
@pale kettle so use tasi instead of Rosalina
Thats what im trying rn, tasi stuns their ferael
How many heroes you can kill?
What team can I make with those ?
@pale kettle id try lucius wukong arden mirael nemora
any tips?
How to build with talene?
she'll be a recuring frontline similar to thoran (which I also like in the same team from experience)
i'd go
Bel
Thoran
Rowan
Talene
Tasi
Alright I'll try thank you!
Any ideas guys?
@heady wave try
Shemira (blade)
Lucius (call)
Lyca (grace)
Thoran (drape)
Rowan (Chalice)
make sure lyca dodges athalia initial strike, might need to move around rowan a bit, but make sure he takes silvinia initial
@pale kettle try
Rosa
Talene
Rowan
Bel
Lucius
ideally you need a copy of fawkes to deal with brutus
I thinm i've tried this also, the problem is, my belinda might one shot 2 or 3 of them, but the last 2 finishes my team
then rng till they don't, just keep retryng, maybe give up if nothing after 4 hours
Yea guess i'll use the autoclicker
I'm stuck on this 19-38 have been tweaking formation and retried for like 100 times and still no luck,I believe it's not possible for me to pass it for now
who would u suggest I borrow to beat this stage
@cloud fossil have you tried wilder support set? nemora lyca?
Shem
lyca
nemora
brutus
tasi
thats the old standard way of passing this repeated formation.. rng until nemora charms arden and he roots his own team.. then the rest depends on whether shemira can ult and kill all before ira ults
yes and...what?how could Nemora ever charm Arden?Nemora is mid and Arden in top left
@novel adder
@cloud fossil its still within her charm range.. tasi banishes the lyca..
does she not charm the one closest to her?
@zealous granite try
lucius, estrilda, belinda, rowan, fawkes.
wukong, brutus, nemora, arden, shem
But usually everybody is at a disadvantage when defending.. so dont worry about it too much.. you will slowly round off your roster
How to beat this, who to ascend?
@analog summit i would try
eironn
tasi
arden
lyca
Nemora...
for you to win the rng is heavy.. need to root khasos..charm ferael..
tasi to 'tank' silvina.. but it looks like you might not be strong enough
hi guys
@cloud fossil did you test it? im pretty sure she can charm the arden.. faced that repeated stage so many times
im new to the game here and just gotten through some draws and i have below:
Brutus
Lucius
Nemora
Safiya
Baden
Wukong
and a free box to select from those 5 anniversary hero
Help please
@zealous granite then it heavily depends on who you are hitting.. you should adjust based on what you are fighting
@ruby palm best is to save the box, see more of your pulls and decide later.. but generally shemira is not recommended because you can( and should) buy her from the labyrinth store.. if you dont want to wait.. tasi is good.. cant really go wrong with her
@umbral panther do you have a nara or athalia?
is it good to actually pick another brutus to ascend it?
@meager sedge no
Im currently using Lucius Brutus Nemora Arden and Safiya for lineup
@umbral panther is that lab?
ya it looks like lab
@novel adder yes
@ruby palm picking brutus is not the worst (tasi copy is pretty handy) but dont ascend him L. have a look at the pinned tips and guide in #classic-questions and there's one pinned here in #lineup-help too
@umbral panther can you show a screen of all your heroes maybe?
@novel adder thanks alot will do!
@umbral panther did your main carry die? i'd just try with lucius, estrilda, belinda, raine, tasi..
Make sure the belinda doesn't get to ult.. and in reverse attempt to ult repeated ly with belinda
u will have to make sure raine ults before belinda does if u wanna do that
his bel will get coffined anyway..
but yeah was wondering because your merc is 230 but i dont see your 240 unit
Shem is 240
did she die already? or somewhere down the list for some reason
you should use her. swap with raine then..
@novel adder thanks for the tips. I was able to win
I'M hard stuck. Little help?
Try using Rosaline and Estrilda instead of Fawkes and Rowan
@pale kettle try
Tasi
brutus
lyca
shem
nemora
nemora to charm the estrilda.. you could theoretically try solise too..
but the vurk poison + brutus probably kills your 3 upper units.
should I even bother retrying lol? @novel adder I had better results using the other formation I came up with
my best was something like
Nara
-----Thoran
Tasi
-----Brutus
Shem
Thoran and Nara really lock Arden down at the top
@cloud fossil can the charm hit arden though.. the formation is obviously rng heavy.. its either die fast or win kind of formation
no,Tasi doesn't even get to banish Lyca
Best formation I can do for the soul reaver event? Generally top formations?
btw with that Formation best I could do is Tasi used her ult then Shem but they die shortly after,cuz Shem is always rooted after Tasi used her ult
@cloud fossil
https://streamable.com/ana5o
this is from 9 months ago - video by gibraltar..
before signature items and elder tree.
@proper pagoda do you have a copy of twins?
generally you can do full points with
shem, rosaline, twins, rowan, lorsan.. and manipulate when you start to ult.. maybe midway and burst to the end..
without lorsan you can try with lucius/nemora to keep everyone alive..
Otherwise there are no ult teams revolving around maulers
Looking for a way to progress on chapter 23.
Eironn is +30 sig and most others are +20
Any suggestions on a new lineup or tips on how I could progress further would be great. Thanks!
@pale kettle thats a very early eironn.. nice.
i guess you could try some variation of
lyca
Lucius
eironn
rowan
tasi/rosaline/safiya.
but adjust to the stage..
your next goals should be rowan 30.. and lyca 20... try to build the other useful support units.. nemora, finish tasi, fawkes..
safiya, belinda/gwyn are things to build for the future too..
@novel adder my current lineup is exactly what u said. Maybe just need to push their levels further?
depends what youre stuck on.. you have to adapt it
Alright thanks!
@novel adder would working on shem and making a shem+ferael team be any good? (According to the stage) since maulers just eat my eironn
Both their sigs r at 20
@pale kettle shem is still good on 23.. ferael is great all the way.. but both have issues with maulers too XD..
the ones that have easier times with maulers are safiya and belinda for the burst..
oh forgot.. you might want to build thoran too
Welp i could build a belinda and swap out for eironn which woukd give me a bigger faction bonus @novel adder whats an optimal lightbearer team i could make? (I could ascend belinda or gyweneth so i have the choice
@pale kettle both are great in their own ways.. belinda has a good record from 23 to 28 or so..
you have the core already.. rowan, lucius and rosaline.. then usually fawkes/tasi or some flexible pick..
Gwyneth im not too experienced with.. but she benefits from those 3 as well and then she likes arthur/estrilda/lyca kind of support as well.
@novel adder yep i think gyweneth does well with arthur according to my knowledge but i think belinda would be an easier choice. It will give more diversity while making my teams according to my opponent.
Thanks for helping <3
no luck,Tasi does get to banish but the top side Lyca and Shem dies too fast,I guess I need legendaries Nemora,Lyca and Tasi for this to work
@novel adder
@cloud fossil top side survival is dependent on nemora charm.. try messing around with artifacts.. call on shem/tasi.. blade on shem otherwise..
The other option is to try and outspeed the arden with your own.. so shem fronline.. and arden replace nemora's spot.. lyca mid back.. But you probably need good mage boots for arden as well as call on him
in the video, his units are L and L+ but at the same time they were all level 160.. so the 10 levels or so should cover the gap
It is admittedly rng heavy.. but its a foretaste of some stages later in the game as well.. if you want to pass at lower levels.. you have to play the rng chance game.
Stuck .... Help please π
@zinc cove try
fawkes
shem
rowan
lucius
rosaline
call on rosaline.. blade on shem.. you need to protect fawkes or else when estrilda kills him, enemy shem will come out early and destroy you.
So I'm currently stuck in Chapter 5, particularly because of the Brutus in most chapter 5's boss. I can't deal with the Brutus's invulnerability shield when he is close to death. I'm not sure if it's my positioning or my team in general, could really use some help.
@edgy fern Try adding Fawkes His Ult clears Brutus shield
wait so Lyca mid back?and Arden bottom back? @novel adder cause Nemora is mid back in the replay
@cloud fossil ahh yes sorry..
arden
shem
lyca
brutus
tasi
basically you are hiding arden from ogi's smash
@cloud fossil if you dont mind merc-ing.. you can request your guild mates/friends with arden.. ask them to put call on him before approving.. then you can run double call.
fucking finally
I put call on Tasi and it worked,my Arden could already root before their Arden could anyway
now I'm at 19-40
with Silvina being the cancer,should be easy using my Shem,Rosa,Rowan,Fawkes right?
Best defense line-up?
it depends on what people in your server use to attack
Ferael-Nara
i think you should take advantage of frontline rowan to have a chance of stunning backline for team 1
@odd python I can't believe I didn't think of that smh
hard for me to judge how best to set up lb since i play the ferael nara comp tho and thus far i beat every lb user in my ladder (losing to wilders and being outleveled mostly)
i personally dont think L fawkes does you any favours in T1 unless you have some seriously stacked gear to let him dodge
I think the accuracy is better than the dodge xD
i would also swap out either belinda or lucius for rosa in T2 if she can follow gwyn, as that allows gwyn to benefit from sig
I have no T2 gear atm
ah i meant team 2, lazy to type out lmao
given def teams depend on the attackers in your ladder you probs should just switch between both and see which performs better for the attackers youre up against
Need help with wilder 128 :c
@novel adder thank you but it didnt work. if anyone else's stuck at the 20-4, this worked for me.
@cloud fossil use this
- Lucius ( duras call)
- Shemira
- Arden
- Rowan
- Fawkes
Help can't beat this level
Been stuck a few days.
Whatβs the best lineup for Soren?
Stuck for over a week any suggestions?
@languid arrow sorry but you should go questions section
@languid arrow about line up I will advise
@keen lion use this
- Lucius
- Shemira
- Fawkes
- Rowan
- Nemora ( she has to charm farael before he stunk your heroes
@prisma violet use tasi instead of shemira you will definitely pass
@dusk nebula use this
- Belinda
- Rosalina
- Tasi
- Rowan
- Lucius
Ok thank you @Ali Hassan#1301
Using the standard LB comp swapped in oden and didn't work .. Any ideas
@astral jay thank you trying now!
@prisma violet did you pass
@dusk nebula tell me the result after
@mossy galleon whom does Fawkes cofin?
@astral jay none! And that's the weirdest thing.. Animation comes out and still everyone there
Tried like 10 times and none is conffined.. Thought its rng thing but no.. That's why I swapped oden in
@astral jay yes now I'm stuck here
@mossy galleon you are using good team and power is good too so try to swape Fawkes with lyca, Arden,nemora and wukong try these four lineups
@astral jay okay.. Shukran
@astral jay well like most other formations usually only Bel or luc and Bel get ult off... And Brutus last breaths me
@prisma violet send screenshots like before I can't figure like this
And also can't beat this stage I tower no matter who I use
I did my phones slow sorry @astral jay
@dusk nebula dies Lucius ult? Wear him call
Best general use GB team I can make out of this? I use top 4 and wu kong
@astral jay will put call on him he ults 1/6 times
@dusk nebula 1/6 what do you mean?
1 out of 6 times
@dusk nebula don't belinda ult? her ult can kill their more than half team
She def ults but @astral jay Brutus last gasps me to death
@crimson shale @crimson shale you are using already a good team Thoran can be replace with other fat man I forgot his name
Aight thx
@dusk nebula @dusk nebula so use Fawkes instead of tasi and don't let Fawkes ult until Brutus uses his shield and let Fawkes remove his shield
@astral jay thanks it works
@astral jay there are were I'm stuck for story and tower
@prisma violet sorry I told you to screenshot like you did at first time I can't figure out like this what is enemy formation
And for now I have to sleep soon can you dm me right now and I I will help you tomorrow morning? Or you wanna it Right now?
@astral jay thank you. Will keep trying. Have a good night!
@dusk nebula Welcome π and you can tell me result tomorrow by dm me or mentioning me here I am Available all day here
@astral jay
@prisma violet okk ok you want help it Right now
If possible I don't mean to keep you awake sorry
@prisma violet remember one things don't make legendary hero when you cant make him legendary+ and don't make mythic+ hero when you can make him white
Oh oops I'm still Learning the game
@prisma violet do you want help tomorrow pls
Yeah that's fine
It need a little more time to think you can dm me
I will help you tomorrow morning actually I need to tell you somethings @prisma violet
Could you look at this?
And it will take time and need some formations to clean sorry
@astral jay yeah I'll dm you
@prisma violet you can dm right now I will msg you when I am awake and already have teams for you
Ok thank you
Hello this is my first time doing this, but may I get some help or what can I get as advice to approve
Just DM me if you have any suggestions
I don't see a screenshot @pale kettle
Ok I see it now
Ok
Can you show me your maulers and LB
Just DM me the slow down has me alittle messed up k
I feel like saveas is low key broken. Is that correct?
Challenger arena lineups?
Does it need any change or I should keep it like this
yeah its good, u can also try
Rosaline
Belinda
Mehira
Lucius
Fawkes
@mighty stone
Iβm thinking I have focuses the wrong hero to lvl up should I reset or not?
You wanna focus on saveas early if you have him later reset someone and over level him
Use rosaline too, you're having too many damage dealers @gloomy forge
might be the trialhero I reset as my frontliners do good tho brotus dies a lot. Wukong and the trial hero feels weak and that tashi farie thing do crazy cc I read that Rosaline and Belinda whit tashi brotus and lucias should be a good comp that can carry.
Id rather Rowan instead of tasi in that team
Tasi with shemira works pretty good if she can land the ult along with shem
Donβt have Shem or rowan. Do have them on wishlist
Have a blue saveas. Should I lvl him up ASAP. As I need 1 more to make blue+
@gloomy forge i agree you reroll if i were you. because you up Tasi to L which doesn't have enough copies.. learn this lesson. i made mistake 1 times so i reroll and focus on fodder to L+ first. it's up to you
@runic tundra I donβt want to reroll on a difrent server over that Iβm new need to learn from mistake used a few bucks so I wonβt reroll server over a few blues that I made e+ and used on tashi as ahi kinda is the carry atm whit banish and the aoe cc. Iβm asking for advise on my current roster if I should lvl a difrent one up not make a new account
Any ideas? The Niru is the boss
@gloomy forge I see you used a few bucks , no choice. just stick to the account. if you are f2p , it's possible to reroll.
What lc teams could I squeeze out of this?
how do you make the game text and stuff look this https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/afk-arena/images/4/44/100FactionRew.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190908120841
it looks so much cleaner and better
Anyone know a good team to beat this level? Been stuck on it for a while now.
Got kind of lucky with this roll. Would i still use wu kong, saveas or shemira as the carry?
@mossy galleon put Arden on crystal and use him instead of Odin (?)
@jagged olive i'm surprised you don't have Shemira at M yet.
Belinda
Brutus
Arden
Lucius
Lyca
@restive socket
Lucius, Rosa, Belinda, Rowan, Fawkes?
Thank you it worked
honestly i just pulled that out of my ass but i'm glad it worked for you
I run shemira , belinda, tasi, lucius, brutus. Should i make any changes or is my team okay?
@pearl iron your carry atm should be Saveas, and it's not ideal to have more than not Shemira and Belinda. it's not ideal to have more than one carry in a lineup. i recommend Lyca in your lineup for the haste boost
@pale kettle okay so what adjustments should i make? Take out belinda and shemira and put in Saveas(which i can make Legendary) and Lyca? Is Lucius and brutus good for frontline or should i change them as well?
Lucius and Brutus are fine for frontline, but if you have any trouble, put Hogan in. L+ tier heroes are going to be most useful at your stage in the game
alright thank you! At what stage should i switch from Saveas? i think it only goes to 160 level right?
Im getting screwed over by this. Any ideas?
@pearl iron Saveas is maxed at 160, yes
any suggestion for event boss ?
my current heroes
Rosaline
Belinda
Talene
Lucius
Shemira
And dont use ults till around 40s are left.
@winter matrix ill try it thanks
Nemora
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Lyca
And wait for Nemora to charm Ferael?
didnt work at all π any less than 350k hp mages get almost one shotted and also vedan insta kills everyone except Brutus Ferael can be dealt with by shemira
Vedan is the real problem
Been playing for 5 days now any help for a line up or what I should work on, all I have is these so far
@vapid cairn lvl up 5 heroes only and reset the rest of them and focus on shamera
@rough goblet shamira is stuck at lvl 100 till I get another to acsend, any suggestions on who to level as a main team for now from what I have
There is 5 in the resonating crystal
@vapid cairn reset shamera ,tasi ,tree and the last guy in the second line and put them in the crystal and lvl up 5 elite + heroes instead
@vapid cairn so u will be able to get more than 100 lvl
Ok great thank you, so shamira will go higher than 100 if in the crystal then till I get another to acsend her ?
Much appreciated on the advice
If u lvl up the 5 elite heroes to 100+ then yes it go above 100
Ok thanks I shall work on doing that π
@vapid cairn and when u are able to lvl her up more than the rest then go for it
@vapid cairn and reset all the heroes in the 3rd line but the first 1 because u will lvl him up
Cool thanks will do
what campaign team can I do with those ?
@pale kettle I'd go Mirael Ulmus Arden Nemora and Wukong
Shemira as a carry ?
@pale kettle
Belinda
Lucius
Mirael
Brutus
Ardem
Not before 160, some heroes perform better at that stage of the game @pale kettle
so who's the carry ?
Mirael is what I chose, some take Belinda or Saveas aswell @pale kettle
In my lineup its Mirael
alright thanks a lot guys
Underleveled or just need tweaks?
I guess I'm still a noob stuck at stage 24-54 any suggestions?
Maybe
Ferael
Shemira
Lyca
Rowan
Lucius?
I would go for lucius because shamera is your carry for now @nocturne crest
What merc would help me beat this?
@nocturne crest its worth considering waiting as well, to see where you get enough copies to take to Ascended - its not like you are level locked or anyything
@winter matrix thanks
Yea good thought, was just considering resetting Belinda to feed into shemira (maybe leave her at 127) and bump luci to 141, but I commonly fight with Belinda being pumped energy from Rosa and Rowan and Belinda blows everything up, was worried about making the switch and Belinda and Shem kinda work against one another, meh
In a clearly LB + Shem dominate arena, do you guys think I would get wiped for using something like this
Fareal (L+)
Shem (A)
Ezizh (E)
Thoran (A)
Talene (E)
what team can i do with those ?
You've got a meta lineup there after a fashion from what I've read I just have seen shemira isnt strong enough at that level, folks say 141+ for her. I'd probably reset her and put it into saveas as your carry as a safe bet
Yea the problem I ran into as well after leaking some cheap amount of cash is you can't easily keep 3 of the same faction at the same ascension after legend+. I'ma filthy noob so I didn't really know each hero needs legend + to go to mythic, then another l+ for mythic+ ....lots of fodder needed from only once faction. I tried with light bringers and quickly focused 2 of em, and I still had to pick one of em at a time ofc. Well if you go 100 saveas then get the others to 81 first after, there's a cap for level difference in there somewhere
alright thanks
Anyone ?
Any idea to improve my team ? Stuck at 14-40
Actualy Rosalie Lucius Belinda Brutus Shemira
Thx
@north siren first tip, dont make A tier heroes L or M if you cant make them L+ or A. Wastes a LOT of fodder. Reset rosa, put lucius to 160 and see how close you can get to 160 crystal.
If you have a fawkes you can run
Rosa
Shem
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
I would look at the pinned guides in this channel, and #classic-questions
@dusk hatch I think I have that somewhere, let me look.
@dusk hatch two I have saved...thought I had more
Which team can help me beat this stage
@autumn pebble I recommend not wasting fodder on making A tier heroes L that cant go L+. Also, need to see all your heroes.
@empty pulsar which ones are those ... I'm kinda new to this.
@autumn pebble I recommend viewing the guides pinned in this channel, and in #classic-questions.
Ok kool
299 help pls
@tidal solar
You did
Tasi
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Shem? Call on lucius
@empty pulsar nope never had her i've almost got enough to buy her from challenger store
Fawkes
Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Lucius
Artifactw @empty pulsar
I'd do lucius chalice, Rowan call, shem blade, fawkes convic/grace, whatever on brutus
help 10-40
I think I might have it saved from another time it was asked @tidal solar KT-299 above
@pliant mountain fawkes > tasi, but fawkes top and mirael bot
Letβs hope you do @empty pulsar lmfao
@tidal solar only recent one I have
Grace on fawkes to help with dodge, not sure who you have to replace estrilda, could try throwing nara in to buy time.
Yikes this is rough
Oooooo Cecilia beats out athalia lock! Now I just gotta keep Belinda alive to get a ult
try this
Shemira
Brutus
Oden
Gorvo
Ferael
shemira 20 levels over the others
Iβll try that thanks π
Thatβs what I thought about doing, just needed a second opinion : )
Any ideas? Cheers
@river sorrel does rowan live long enough to ult?
Any tips?
level up your team
@civic acorn always in progress π€π»
I am going to try making a push for L40 in the Mauler tower for the mythic gear, which squad gives me the best chance?
Saveas Saf Brutus Tidus Vurk probably
@worthy bane thanks as always, Arty
Lineup change? Currently i use 1. Lucius 2. Wu kong 3. Nemora 4. Belinda 5. Rosaline. Just got gwyneth, was gonna take out nemora for her but wasnt sure. What do you giys think?
Person who gets stopped by my tasi is the khasos
fawkes
lucius
shemira
wukong
nemora
Ok thx
Try
Belinda
Warek/wukong
Rowan
Brutus/Shem
Fawkes
Hey so I got some new units and I was wondering if I should change my team. I got Nara, Eironn, Tasi, Rowan and Lucius
My team is:
Shemira
Brutus
Oden
Gorvo
Ferael
Also got Oscar and I can get one of those cards for a free elite
Need some help clearing this.. Already tried Rosa too and didn't work
@pale kettle try to add lucius over gorvo, rowan over fera, and tasi over oden
@mossy galleon that just looks like a stage where you wanna use a merc, looks awful lol
@worthy bane I dun wanna use merc too soon.. Still 20 stages in this chapter ππ
from what I remember that is the wall of ch9, but maybe farm a few levels and use nemora over oden
If this stage is the gate keeper I'll use mercenary but I dun wanna waste it too soon u knw
give it say 2 or 3 days worth of levels, if no clear by then, merc it
Thanks arty. Really helpin me get a good team : )
But then I wouldnβt get a faction bonus. Is that ok?
that's fine, eventually you'll transition into one
Is this doable
Fawkes doesn't coffin anyone either due to massive dodge or him attempting to coffin warek
If not with my comp,Is this possible with any Merc?
@worthy bane lol I cleard it with the comp I sent
@dusky hazel if your shemira isn't surviving,Wait till her 220
And to make it dead easier, Make sure you have the firebringer and icebringer
Before going into the boss fight,Have all 5 of your heroes already charged at 100% energy, That's almost a necessity
Don't eat away all the baby levels before touching boss,Leave 4 so you can recharge energy to 100% by them before every boss
I have them both @restive tundra I think I will just wait until 220
Better
PoTs are designed very poorly,Just achieve 60% in next ones and grab what you can till then
What faction should I aim for? I posted my team earlier in the chat
Alright. Just sucks to make it to the last boss fight and be gated by a 3.5mil rating tasi xD. She's such a ridiculous character too. Much harder to beat than the others.
@pale kettle Lightbearers are the meta
A bit luck based because they have a massive hero pool but with a good investment
They'll swiftly carry you through early and mid game,Are also very optimal for lategame
Your 2nd best choice is Wilders, Maulers generally suck besides Brutus and Safiya for the most
Graveborns are an okay investment but not close to LBs,Read the guides pinnned in the channels too
@dusky hazel yup,If you have beated all other 5, You should have 5 legendary relics, Getting relics like 25% damage reduction are a crucial element to getting it done with such a massive power difference
How do I beat this bullshit stage of towers with my piss weak wilder team? Haha
Need help
@astral pike Try to merc a strong Eironn with sig unlocked and replace Kaz
How can i deffet dise stage
@frosty elk you need ascended Brutus
How do I lineup this to get passed this level
Need some help here lol
LB Tower 120. This hurts. Can I do anything? Rosa tends to follow Rowan if I use him
could i have some advice on my lineup?
@graceful hearth you should be having no issue there especially at 253... I did that at 220 with around the same crew. Cept no estrilda and using Rowan....
Think my set up was
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Rosaline
Belinda
Is Belinda AR higher than rowans?
I just keep ending up with Rosa following Rowan because his SI is +30 smh
Need help with main lineup
@graceful hearth you don't have your own Rowan?
No, heβs my own Rowan, @astral jay
Worth at this point? She'd be my first mythic
@tidal solar If Rowan has Blade and Belinda has call, then yes. Every other time, usually not
@pale kettle this line up is good with your heroes
1.lucius
2. Eiron
3. Tasi
4. Rowan
5. Belinda
Who i put the lvls on? @astral jay
@graceful hearth you should strip some Rowan's gears and wear his low power gears
Iβd imagine your rosaline would run to Belinda then regardless of si... she usually runs to the highest ar
Thatβs the easiest way for Rosa to run for Belinda @tidal solar
@pale kettle lvls on? I didn't understand but you should make shemira mythic and make her 161 she is op after 161 and has great use till ch 24 after ch 24 Belinda is main
Strapped for Int mythic gear smh
@ember bough make shemira mythic right now and make her lvl 161 she is great carry after 161
I mean putting the levels i can on a sigle lvl 160 carry(cuz i cant 161 yet)
Thatβs what you should shoot for @graceful hearth
Thanks guys
@pale kettle so make Belinda 160 or Lucius if Lucius dies quickly make him 160 but if you need more damage if Belinda make her 160
Finally got it. Thanks guys. God, I hate maulers...
Cheers @graceful hearth what set up did you use?
What you used
Ay gg man. Iβm at 151 using that team so you should be in good shape
Opinion? How should I adjust it?
Gl man
@south herald you already have good line ups just ascend the heroes like Rowan and Rosalina to become a great lb line up you are good at Wilder's already but Graveborn Remove esabella do you have any other GB hero?
@astral jay I have an L+ thoran but thats about it
@south herald does she do some good damage?
@astral jay a decent amount yes
@south herald so you have good line ups already you don't need a suggest
just need more powerful ezizh to stand on
Ok ty
Big old wtf over here
Hey guys havent played for many months and I forgot alot, can anyone tell me which hero I should go for, who I should focus on and what should my lineup be?
@fading elbow Not far with the game but as far as my knowledge goes, get 15 heroes to ascended would be a good choice. As for line up, it really depends on which chapter you're one
Thanks for replying c: . I'm on chapter 15 and this is my lineup
Idk if baden is good for my lineup
What is the best team I should use for this stage?
@fading elbow Brobably put some cc heroes such as Arden in and swap baden out, also try to use a Rowan instead of Nemora if you have one
@clever mountain What's your full list of heroes?
@clever mountain Try:
Fawkes
--Lucius
Rowan
--Brutus
Saveas
If Lucius gets melted then try replacing him with Rosa
Thanks, I'll give it a try
@bright shuttle thanks for the input I'll try replacing baden with arden
no problem
Thanks for replying c: . I'm on chapter 15 and this is my lineup
@fading elbow Switch nemora for athalia and try playing around with the formation. RNG differs per round. You could also experiment by swapping armor and dura artifacts around.
But in my own prefenced opinion, I would replace nemora with your athalia, and then put baden or thoran as your frontline in stead of shemira since those 2 frontliners stun a heck ton.
But usually a far ahead shemira should be able to carry it as long as she ults once from herself and another from rosa.
You could also play off a graveborn party set by adding thoran, baden -frontline and athalia rosa and shemira backline. Those increased buffs of having 4 of the same faction would help a lot even by a small percentage of winning the round by pure RNG
Ready to use merc.. Need help
@mossy galleonwell, maybe Rosa bel, Lucius rowan fawk will work
Okay ty @brave oriole
you can swap position up down if not works so well
Okay
@mossy galleon and if you need a merc, a Rosa or rowan will be good, take a Rosa, for events too
How can i deffet dise stage
@frosty elk Rosa shem, Lucius rowan fawk
okey
@brave oriole it Work
Who can help? Should I just wait to upgrade more?
Thx
Im stuck , can anyone help me?
Which one should I replace Athalia with? Currently at 6-27
@weak valve You could swap Antandra with Athalia, Provide a better faction bonus with 2 Celestials, 2 Lightbearers, and 1 Hypogean, with wukong's clones and Athalia's various strikes, along with Mehira's hypogean faction buff, it sounds like a promising lineup, but it might not work against all enemy compositions, be sure you can be flexible with your formation and change if required!
@slim imp Have you tried:
Nemora (charm Brutus)
Lucius
Belinda
Brutus
Fawkes
If this won't work, please share your complete hero roster ^^
@obtuse iris Sure! Maybe you should try :
Arden (root Belinda)
Lucius
Belinda
Lyca
Tasi
For future reference, please refrain from ascending so many heroes if you can't directly ascend them towards Legendary+, as you can be found in a position where you have too many Legendary tier heroes, and lacking the duplicates to further ascend them. (disregarding Arden and any other L+ capped hero)
@slim imp Also, I would advice you to ascend Raine to Mythic so you can then benefit of level 161 Crystal, and use your other Crystal heroes while their ability is improved! It can bring a lot of other choices and formations into your lineup.
@heady siren at which chapter are you in?
@astral jay Chapter 27, however, I'm acknowledged enough to help people who are ahead of me in the game too, if you are looking for an advice, feel free to share your info and I will try my best to help. π
@brave oriole
post a ss with the stage and heroes @velvet palm
@brave oriole do you exclusively help out on this channel? Just wondering
this team has worked the best so far
It is this channel to keep the other ones free @bright shuttle
@heady siren hahaha I was curious why are you saying raine mythic it is a wrong advice
@velvet palm but you have no dps
athalia and orthros are the ones that do the most dmg
He already has Lucius and Fawkes mythic he need food for them already and he nned Rosalina and Rowan as soon as he gets then he must need food for them rain ascended is totally waste
@velvet palm try out this, Lucius with call, shemira with grace , arden with eye rowan lyca, first
is e+ arden good?
@astral jay Getting the Crystal to Mythic tier level (161+) is far more worth than staying stuck and Crystal capped while your heroes don't benefit from the bonus ability and stats.
In my opinion, level progression is far better than ascending a powerful hero and solely focusing on him.
You may think that ascending Raine is a waste and you might be true, she won't benefit a lot from it, but the other heroes will.
@velvet palmyeah should be with a decent gear
@velvet palm or you can just put athalia on arden directly, and replace nara with Rosa
Eventually, you will need all of the heroes at Ascended tier, to progress in Crystal level post level 240. ^^ you can't be fixated on one thing, let the RNG play for you
what formation?
@velvet palm well, shem Rosa, athalia rowan Lucius
But it is wrong to be rush he will regret it at late game finally how about some patience and not regret at late game @heady siren
i mean where my heros go, front or back
That's your opinion and it's respectable. But not everyone must play by meta. Some people are granted a certain RNG. To me, its better to go with the flow of the game instead of being fixated on following meta. π
LB 149 please help. I want to pass this stage without merc so I can save it for 150
@velvet palm
athalia
shem
rowan
rosa
Lucius
@heady siren he can wait and make shemira mythic as he must have to make shemira mythic that is very useful at Midgame. So I must say to wait and not regret at late game
savaes knifes do too much damage
@bright shuttle Belinda is wrong there, you should not hit thoran, try up this rowan with chalice, rosa, fawk Lucius Belinda, Rosa to follow Belinda, and Btw fawk coffin who?
@velvet palm you have call on Lucius? and check Rosa shoes, she need good shoes with mspd
@brave oriole thank you. Fawkes coffins vedan FYI
@velvet palmshe survive to go on shem? put grace on shem
shem always has grace and lucius always has call
so, who's dying?
wydm by whos dying
whos dying in order?
well, first let's say
all the important ones die first
how looks your setup? ss it on stage
should be fine tbh, maybe put Lucius up and shem down, with Rosa back
if not works, then you better try arden with lyca setup π
yeah, you have to try diff, put nara. on arden, athalia on saveas
@brave oriole Belinda canβt seem to survive, I currently have conviction on her, should I switch to drape?
eye,
Did u check winning comps btw? Arthro
@bright shuttlehow's your setup right now? Lucius would. need dura's call if the shield comes. too. slow
Tbh i think the issue is more the skreg running you down u have to get rid of him asap
Nice
π
How do u like orthros so far btw? Also how many until A?
4 more, and hes very nice if you manage to get him to survive after the 15 second
@brave oriole currently:
Fawkes
βRowan
Lucius
βRosa
Belinda
Lucius has call but shield still comes a bit late. Sometimes it activates but Belinda still dies before ult
i would need some advice on this stage xd its hard due to vedan an ferael.
@pine root not hard, shem Rosa, fawk rowan Lucius with call
@bright shuttle you have to keep skreg away from your backline... If lucius can survive he can slow skregs energy regen with his sig
@bright shuttle take a ss of the stage
where is skreg going to?
OK, try this,
fawk
Lucius
rosa
rowan
bel
@meager sedge goes towards Belinda
@brave oriole ok will do
try call and chalice on rowan, to see which works better vs skreg
yeah then definitely backline rosa
Ok
and idk i think that putting
rosa
rowan
bel
lucius
fawkes
might also be useful because it allows rosa to get energy pot to buff bel to give her an insane starter nuke to kill skreg in time or a fast double ult since luc slows skregs energy gain for his ult
and usually the biggest issue is skreg ulting (at least for me on these stages)
tbh, the best is Rosa to follow Lucius on this case, so she can dps skreg π
Didnt work since rosa just gets one shotted also fawkes gets killed within 10 seconds.
@bright shuttle try bel middle, my bad, she cannot get rowan energy from there
dont underestimate bel with rosa ult - mine oneshot an ulting thoran in campaign so if he can get bel ult on 2-3 ppl it will just murder skreg
u just have to somehow pile them all up in one place
well, i know it's better, but there's exceptions
I had a tower fight where Rosa. killed all 5 following Lucius lol
lmao
I think i saved it, let me check haha
well but my bel (at this point) also tanks better than lucius so there is that xD
Ok, Iβll just keep retrying
@pine root who gets coffin'ed in your setup by fawkes?
@bright shuttle can you send a screen of the post game results?
@meager sedge Iβll try to send one of the better ones
the thing with Belinda, the dmg is random sometimes, she can one hit 3 targets or not
its not random. it depends on how the ult hits
try to swap rosa and fawkes mby
Wonder if I should blade on Belinda instead of conviction
use eye
Ok
and blade in Rosa, convict fawk for ma
eye on bel, you can also try call on rosa if belinda ult isnt enough to finish skreg off (if belinda takes the energy pot before rosa does, assuming your rosa follows bel)
@meager sedge I can try, but currently I drape on rosa because she just melts so fast
does she have good shoes? you can try on her dura's grace also
when she start spinning, silvina should be almost dead by bel
She only has mythic boots w no bonus and no upgrades
so does mine that is usually enough
Maybe I just need to wait it out π€
i just know that your biggest threat on lb usually is skreg if u face him in tower. because you want a) enemies to be piled up for bel and b) nothing to reach your backline. skreg does a fantastic job of ruining both of these things (whilst being tanky af once he got close)
merc a Rosa
Yeah will probably do that, tysm!
Been stuck here for about 3-4 days now. Please help. Any tips are appreciated
@frozen shadow you need to lvl down, ghez and saveas to 120,and put the exp on Belinda, then use this team,
Belinda
rosa
rowan
Brutus
Lucius
i doubt i can get my island 5 rewards
Been stuck for two weeks now!
@heady siren hey sorry I just saw your comment, I shared my main and crystal hero list up there, should I also show the possible fodder?
Uh could u help me with teambuilding? Iβm not good at understanding...
btw im saving raine to be a possible fodder for fawkes and lucius and i'll have her at L+ until I find appropriate fodder. Should I be doing that?
@fair fjord Your team should have a Carry (dmg dealer), Tank, support /cc /healer, at later stages when you have a more diverse roster you can try different stuff like 2 carries and so on...
@slim imp Honestly, I can see the temptation in doing that, eventually your own call is what's important and you'll do what you find fun in the game to do, no matter what other people say, to try and convince you.
But since you're asking for my opinion, I will give my opinion : I do not think it will be the right choice to sacrifice Raine as fodder, as she still is Ascended tier and will be required in order to increase your maximum level cap after level 240 (Every ascended tier hero in your list increases the crystal level by 5 after 240.)
Following my past statement, neither Lucius or Fawkes are DPS reliable or has the potential of carrying your entire team, so I think it will be best to ascend Raine and get 5 Mythic heroes, to increase your crystal level above 160.
should I fodder hogan for raine then?
That's what I would do, solely for the purpose of increasing Crystal level cap, I've done it before with Kaz (making her Ascended for crystal level 240), and I don't regret it until today, as it saved me a lot of time ^^
thank you so much ^^
So is it important to have diverse factional teams?
@fair fjord Eventually, without a choice, you will end up with a lot of diversity in faction in your teams, due to RNG throwing elite cards of various factions at you, motivating you to build them further.
But in lineups, it's recommended to keep a stable faction bonus of at least 3 of the same faction, for some base bonus stats.
Moreover, Hypogean and Celestial heroes can sneak in the formation too and provide their own unique buffs to the team (whether it's joining up to an existing faction bonus or adding their own stats)
@slim imp You're welcome! best of luck! ^^
@fair fjord The heroes you choose should have synergy with each other, and have diverse roles, if you use 5 dmg dealer that doesnt mean you'll deal more dmg, so you must look at what you're facing and look at what options do you have to counter it
Thanks for explanation! But lemme rephrase, arenβt there any factional role required like solo and team bounty for battle? Like the battle state u must bring 5 Celestial or other faction?
@fair fjord You're free to choose whichever heroes you want, I think there are a few things but not really important that you'd build for them, like there is 1 stage in a POT that requires 3 wilders, but if you have a strong carry you wont really care about the 3 wilders, your carry will do it on his own
Ok, thanks for clearing my doubts.
Generally at your stage you just overlevel your Wukong and it should be quite a smooth progression up to ch6-ch8, later on you will have some extra heroes (make sure your wishlist is set up) and you can start to form a team with a better carry then Wukong as he is hard to Ascend, you should also start buying Shemira from lab and Ascend her so she can take you to the late game, you get 2 free copies @ruby palm
@wheat saffron thanks alot im stuck already actually hahah im at 6-12
i suppose tasi arden rosalind support is alright?
Try Mehira for Rosaline and put her center back @ruby palm
alright nvr thought about mehira she does more than rosaline on the support end?
@ruby palm They have different roles, Mehira is great for her charm (ult), Rosaline is supposed to follow the strongest hero and transfer energy to them but that doesn't work so well if she is following Wukong because he can't regenerate Energy while he is in ult form so she isnt being used to her full potential
ah ic thanks alot shes just following my tasi now but i guess if i lvl wukong further i shld go with mehira first
once i get shemira i will switch back to rosalind right?
Reroll or no?
Mehira is somewhat situational so you wont really use her a lot but she is quite good in some cases and early on it can be used differently, when Wukong gets capped and he isn't dealing enough dmg anymore you can switch to Mirael/Saveas and ascend those to Lg+ and when they hit 160 and they stop dealing enough dmg, you'll have Shemira set up, Shemira is very good after 161, before that she can't carry as good @ruby palm
noted on that! should i consider other supports depending on whether i use mirael/saveas?
since they are different factions
@ruby palm There are a lot of good supports in the game, you're still somwhat early and will summon a lot, just make sure your Wishlist is set up, and you'll eventually get everything you need, here are some of the best supports:
Tasi Lyca Nemora Rowan Fawkes Rosaline Nara... there are more
Any ideas?
@wheat saffron thanks alot mike for ur help!
No problem, try to avoid mistakes and learn as much as you can about heroes and synergies as your progressing so you'll have better knowledge while going against hard stages, good luck @ruby palm
try putting ferael in place of oden
Shem is not such a good tank that early
I truly hate Thane with a passion
Can someone help with F132 of GB tower?
Currently I have belinda safiya and shemira back row, but Iβm torn whether I should replace shemira with eironn as they have similar power and eironn is rated S. I also currently have hogan and lucius front row and I donβt think they need changing but perhaps others?
@ebon heath it doesn't matter who you start early, at midgame it will always be the same lineup, unless you're trying to do an only faction account
Eironn is a beast, at 240
Shemira is a beast, +161, or +141 may work too but not that much
You should line
Belinda
Lucius
Rosa
Hogan/wukong/shemira
Saveas/safiya
@eternal totem try dropping talene, Belinda Frontline and Fawkes backline
Or use Rosa Frontline, Belinda backline and Fawkes backline too
Any help? Big struggles.
@alpine badger ferael is not good in early, he's one of the best dps in late though, I'd use a Rosa instead of him, shemira is already a carry, you don't need two
I dont have rosa
@lime quiver and lucius?
no only this
im using a team of Nemora Arden + Saveas Khasos Brutus, what changes should I make when transitioning into a team with Shemira? I want to have the faction bonus
How far are you from the begginers event? At 50 elite they gave you a chest that contains a Lucius
Emmm still 15 more to get that chest
@eternal totem Lucius should stay Frontline, only change talene with Belinda or Rosa, and add Fawkes
Kk thanks
@lime quiver nah they fucked me completely as soon as the bat bitch ulted
You can try using thoran instead of ferael, and bring shemira in the back
Try oden instead of Fawkes
Rosa/Belinda
Bel/Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Oden
Nevermind I swapped belinda and fawkes places and worked lol, thanks a lot

just got lucius. Replace brutus with him, right?
@lime vapor saveas , rowan,lucius , tasi ,wukong. sometime you need use brutus to encounter wilders and complicated formation
@runic tundra tasi instead of rosa? u sure? I would have a better faction bonus aswell, no?
@lime vapor your team is low level , faction bonus effect you less.. the higher level , the more stats. Tasi is CC
you have 3 bonus is enough. there is no need to full bonus. depends on campaign you may swap heroes.
what changes should I make when I transition to a Shemira team? 
using Arden Nemora + Khas Brutus Saveas

Cant beat this stage somehow, can anyone help me?
@topaz blaze Hey! have you tried this? :
Belinda
Brutus
Lyca
Fawkes
Nemora (charm Arden)
If Fawkes survives and coffins Shemira (I would assume), and Arden gets charmed, you're more likely to win since Belinda can remain safe for a little longer, and not suffer from Arden's shield ability.
Lyca for the added haste bonus. You won't have a faction bonus this way, if you'd like another idea, please share your complete hero roster!
@silk cosmos
Well, in my opinion, definitely keep Arden, Tasi, and Nemora, you could also use Wukong too, in addition to Shemira, make the team completely surround her and keeping her safe by wukong's clones, and Arden's roots.
It sounds promising, but remember you'll need to keep it flexible because formations often change in this game. ^^
Eny ideas?!
@ornate totem Swap Rosaline for Lyca, you already have Rowan's sig at 30, all you need is some bonus energy and haste, and you will be settled, Belinda could ult much earlier than usual thanks to that.
Belinda
Rowan
Lyca
Lucius
Fawkes
@silk cosmos You're welcome any time! π
Who should I take to 240 next?
@heady siren tried your tactic just now, didnt work, my fawkes wasnt close to surviving (the positions I used earlier was more effective but Grezhul can distract my team and when he uses knockup my team can't heal/lifesteal anymore and enemies start their burst at same moment
Any tips?
Somebody help
tbh this might just be a level up part on my end but just in case, can someone help?
@untold gust your formation seems nice...the thing is different stages means differnet formationa
Lol just got over 44k damage in an hour
@indigo bolt maybeput gwyneth middle change nemora for rosaline
And ira instead of cecilia
And change positions of frobtline
With some new additions , should my line up change?
Belinda
Hogan
Shemira
Lucius
Safiya
?
Any teams for Uyko?
@solid remnant Rosalina instead of safiya
@solid remnant put your DPS (Shemira) overleveled, not lucius.
@abstract shuttle Not really no, not that I know of anyways...
Ok thanks you
@solid remnant I would recommend you read the 1 page guide pinned in #classic-questions π
Thanks π
Any ideas ?? Pls
FACK, this is difficult
Iβm so close to Ch 26, I can almost smell those T2 Stones
@mystic yacht
Rosaline
Shemira
Nemora (charm Arden)
Talene
Lyca
I think that charming Arden and having your Rosaline escape from Silvina to Shemira would be enough, though, you might be lacking a little bit of damage.
Additionally, make sure you don't ascend a lot of heroes to Legendary tier if you can't ascend them further up to Legendary+, as the duplicates that're required to get them aren't guaranteed to get, and you might find yourself stuck like this for a long while now. Just for future reference. Best of luck!
@robust forum Then you might want to charm enemy Ferael so he won't harass your team any further! Maybe try something like;
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Lyca
Nemora
@heady siren That worked, thanks!!
You are welcome! π
@topaz blaze I was inspecting your image for a while after the first attempt had failed, may you please DM me and I'll help you further in there? ^^
ye sure
@heady siren 2nd suggestion up there helped me too xD
Doable with my roster?
Hello, i started playing this game tonight, should i change something?
@mystic yacht Simply swap your Fawkes for Solise. keeping Vedan stunned while Ferael gets charmed and he continues to terrorize Vedan, causes him to be very behind and possibly die early to Shemira, and then the massacre begins.
@woeful lichen Oh? do you still need help or has it helped you? I don't understand, sorry! xD
Help pls
@heady siren i sent a message but u didnt notice , the suggestions u gave others helped xD
Help pls
Stop making L heroes, it's not worth it
@woeful lichen Oooh I see it!
Have you tried:
Solise
Lucius
Belinda
Lyca
Rowan (It's enough for him to only reach Belinda and she will do her magic
)
@heady siren im stuck on an other stage atm so imma try this one for it xD
Id try
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Hendrik
Estrilda @jovial juniper
You can replace hendrik with estrilda in the lineup, and drop him for fawkes
@tidal shale Hi! That seems like a very early stage to be stuck on!
Are you sure you can't overlevel your Mirael a little more? She should be your consistent DPS hero, instead of Safiya, as Safiya requires a lot of channeling and her effects are not at the same haste as Mirael's, make sure you overlevel your strongest DPS hero (in this case, Mirael, since Safiya is not reliable enough with her slow pace, and the fragile frontline you have will lead to her being interrupted constantly.)
Qolise is useless, vedan is not stun... @heady siren
@heady siren Thanks for answear, im not completely stuck, was just wondering if i was positioning right. So i should focus on lvling up Mirael instead of Safiya?
@heady siren this is the current one , i tried several teams best attempt was when i tried nemora and tasi but still died too fast , morvus does most damage and and angelo even interrupted me, belinda doesnt do much damage thanks to their def increase
Solise*
@mystic yacht Really? are you sure she is not stunning Vedan first hand? usually, her first attack cast is the stun potion she throws... then instead try to use Lyca, to charm Ferael faster and he will focus his "Terrorize" ability on himself and Vedan as priority.
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Talene
Lyca
@tidal shale Your positioning is more than fine π you are doing great and are also very lucky with pulls, Safiya is a treasure in future stages of the game ^^
@woeful lichen This might be tougher then..
How about:
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Lyca (sacrifice for Morvus)
Baden (as distraction for Angelo?)
@umbral wraith Usually people pass that stage with a classic Thoran cheese (where thanks to his signature item, he tanks all of their damage all at once, and mitigates it towards them in a single swipe.
It might be doable but also very hard to do, since most of them will be invulnerable and Raine is the hero with the most attack rating, means that she will be banished, and not any of the Athalias, nor Thanes, it's a rough one, but see if Lucius can cast his ultimate enough times, and Ferael survive their massacre to deny them the use of their ultimates.
@heady siren damn youre good at this xD
New player here, I feel happy with the team and overall performance. Wanted to ask about future improvements. The backline seems good but I am not sure about frontline longterm.
@chilly stirrup I have an advice for you, right off the bat :
Make sure you do not consistently level all your 5 heroes.
Your levelling priority mindset should go as so : "My DPS must be at least 10 levels or more above the rest, them being the same level as everyone else won't benefit them, as they're supposed to be your source of damage, but when they're not over-levelled, they can't do much except for deal an average amount of damage, which is not what their role is.
Your faction bonus looks good, and your might power in comparison to the enemy too, keep at it, and make sure you overlevel wukong and Shemira (for now, Shemira turns to be your main DPS after level 160, until then, wukong can be somewhat reliable too.)
@mystic yacht What is she stunned by? who is stunning her?
Ferael
Even while using a Lyca, Ferael gets fast enough use his "Terrorize" ability on your team?
Yes
Maybe he wasn't charmed? make sure you see the "Charmed" signal and the pink heart atop of his head.
can anyone assist me
Nemora doesn't directly charm the person who mirrors her in formation, it's an higher possibility, but it requires many refreshes.
No charm signal
@mystic yacht Keep refreshing, you'll get there ^^
It requires a bit of RNG (Randomly Generated) luck.
@calm basalt Hmm...
How about:
Khasos (see if he can instantly kill Nemora with his axe swings, if he throws them enough times)
Brutus
Skriath
Skreg
Numisu
I know how that feels, the RNG is there!
that nemora insta charms my khasos
@calm basalt Did you give Khasos Dura's Eye?
of course
@calm basalt Then rely on Safiya instead.
Skriath
Khasos
Safiya
Brutus
Skreg
See if she can use her ultimate move at least once, and kill Ulmus with it, if yes, then that might be the way to pass the stage!
blade or call on here
I'll give you a quick run-up of all the artifacts :
Dura's Eye : Khasos
Dura's Blade : Safiya
Dura's Call : Skriath
Dura's Drape : Brutus
Dura's Chalice of Vitality : Skreg
@heady siren first time using ferael in my main team but after a few attempts to dodge and survive the initial burst I did it, thanks!
Oooh congratulations!! Best of luck further on!
@umbral wraith
@heady siren thank you :'(
@mystic yacht Trust me, I've felt this frustration so many times, but going through it was worth it eventually, Nemora saved me many times π
What should I do?.. if it's leveling who you level up and useful?
@steel smelt So... it is a levelling issue.
You've focused most of your levelling resources on a tank, support, healer, who can't deal consistent (or any kind of reliable) DPS.
You should instead prioritize your resources on DPS heroes, most remarkably in your current situation, your Legendary+ Saveas.
Make sure to get him to level 141 as soon as possible.
Reasoning why you shouldn't focus tanks with most of your resources is that, if you have no DPS to provide damage, then your tank's protection is meaningless, they will slowly but surely chop him down and kill him, and your DPS heroes will be rendered useless due to that.
If you feel the need to, reset Lucius, and level up Saveas (preferably to level 160), as he by himself can carry you to chapter 15 (as he did for some people)
Once you do, try this out :
Tasi
Wukong
Nemora
Lucius
Saveas
Everything will be level 121 right saveas should be level 150?
That seems like the optional thing to do ^^
How should I line them up @heady siren
I mentioned it above ^^
I'll mention again :
Tasi
Wukong
Nemora
Lucius
Saveas
Oh I see thank you I'll do it. Much appreciated @heady siren.
Now, this is this one
I've been playing for around 2 weeks, but still not sure what's the best lineup I can make from heroes that I collected. Please give me some advice, thank in advance
Im stuck in this stage for a day!! Am i underleveled, comp problems? Or should i just keep trying? My frontline keeps getting destroyed
@obsidian rock You have to stop making L heroes, they will became a problem in the future if you don't have luck, other than that, I'd go
Tasi
Wukong
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
@austere skiff reset Belinda and make wu Kong level 120 and add the rest to lucius. Take Eironn off resonating crystal and put nemisu on it. So. Will be the same team instead of Belinda tho if h nemisu will be used in place of her and your wu will be 120-! Lucius will have resg of the exp stuff.
@austere skiff try using Fawkes instead of tasi, a Rowan there should be superb, but with Fawkes you win 25% increase in health and dmg
How do I beat this stage?
@austere skiff also take out rosalina and try fawken like rodrigoooo said
will try, im trying to go for rowan.. but havent got any luck
But is your team dying instantly and everyone in the enemy team is alive? Or like three and two remains when you lose? If you kill 2 or 3 and they're low health it's all about rng
all of them alive
@lime quiver team faction is late to end game not for beginners
that niru is oneshoting lucius and wukong
It worked for me in that stage with my secondary account @steel smelt
@lime quiver maybe for you but overall the youtube volkin dude said not to worry about it till later
Hey guys this is my current Campaign lineup, any optimizations? I started the game yesterday, and so I dont have alot of purple heroes (I think they're called Elite Heroes). Any help?
Seems fine but you should probably replace estrilda with rowan
And mirael with belinda
Hello can anyone review my formation xD
Yea
Don't have Belinda just yet, I'm gunna get her on the 7th day of the login event, I researched tier lists and know she's a really good mage. Thanks
Np
Very good unofficial
@pale kettle same situation as toinna get wu long and make him as high level as possible. He is going to be your carry.
But im not sure why you arent using belijda or tasi
@silent cape tbh me too lol. Any changes?
Dunes use that tasi!!!!!!
Estrilda is not useful yet, so replace her with belinda and put shem in front
I am using tasi lol
@steel smelt uh what tasi
And I tagged wrong personππ
@fresh glacier tasi is the wilder fairy with pink hair
Isn't wukong kinda bad tho? Wouldn't Brutus be carry since he's the best hero?
Hes not the best lol
Not even close. Wu kong is good for early game so is perfect for you
@pale kettle I tried brutus and it wasn't too good then I went with wu and it took me through till chapter 9.
Who is the best hero?
@pale kettle wukong helped me get to floor 90 and in at level 100 now lol
Talene
And who would I replace wukong with?
@silent cape what lineup should I use?
I mean to put in wukong
Wu kong isnt good for long. Idk tho because he came out after i was past 10
@fresh glacier looks good but replace athalia with tasi and estrilda with belinda
@pale kettle it's simple make wu as high level as possible. Put lucius in front line with wu. Back line needs saveas and you can use brutus I guess the last one doesn't matter
Athalia is amazing but its hard to build her until you get the challenger store
Oof hes only elite
That sucks. U can replace him if you want but still try to build him because hes one of the best
@fresh glacier you got a talene omg that's gonna be one powerful.useful at alllstages. Preferably mid to end though. The best hero in the game is talene can't believe you have it.
@silent cape I still need him. Using seirus only makes me fail faster..
Because seirous isnt a good tank
@steel smelt it was luck xD
Lemme look at unofficialrussian I recently was at his stage
My talene is at legendary and my athalia is L+
I played like less then a month so I don't have talene
Alright I'm looking @fresh glacier
@silent cape I think most ppl are stuck at stage 25(?)
@fresh glacier yes that's what I mean. I can tell the difference between stage and chapters lol
Can't*
I dont think most people are. Its early endgame
@silent cape as you can see I'm still stuck at chap 9 so
Lol you will soon experience the worst pain you have ever felt. Thane
@steel smelt if you're looking for my ig name it's not UnofficialRussian lol
Reset shemira. Put the levels on wu the monkey king and lucius. Replace shem with tasi. Replace estrilda with wu. Lucius should be the one taking the most damage so you may need to rotate wu and lucius in front at different time depending on where the enemy strongest attackers will be.
So it will be in order wu Kong, Lucius, then bak will be tasi, rowan, and athalia I'd prefer the blue guy grezhul in place of athalia but you can mess around. @fresh glacier.
Why would you reset shemira?
But why reset shemira tho?
Shes a great carry for most of the game. Dont do that
@fresh glacier shem is only shines after level 140 and starts even godlier after 160.
So he can build her
Oh all his team needs to be at 140 then so have fun
I really hate how that happens where you need your whole team at a certain level to up another monster to leveling pass What it's at.
Hey, i'm a new player f2p (5 days in game) and i was wondering if i should continue to build a light team
Cuz ive got a lotta of em
Worry about that later. Your leveling them up correctly. Ooh nice Cecilia!
ok, thanks !
Light best faction
Need help
Any ideas?
Hi guys! Currently at 8-8 and im stuck. Have ben resetting and teying out different team comps for the pst hour and i just basically gave up. Hereβs what I have now but this isnβt the final lineup. Any tips on what to do or whom to prioritize? Btw, I can still 101 another hero.
I'm in need of 2 or even 3 teams that i can put for the challenger arena, currently i think i'm like gold 3? My main team i use is Shemira, Lucius, Fawkes, Rosaline, Rowan, which works well enough but my other teams struggle
Is ulmus better than estrilda?
@mossy galleon level your heroes
I need help still anyone chap 25+
Help please
Help please
@silent cape there's a chap 30 guy π
30-13 hard stuck for weeks
Im stuck too im wondering if i need more dps
Oh and great news I finally passed the level that I was in. Welp lucky me
@lime quiver what else can I do.. Suggest me a formation if ya can please
I didn't have to wait until 140 after all xD
@strange lily
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Lucius
Wukong
Focus on leveling saveas and take him to L+, he will carry you in early
Is ulmus better than estrilda or no?
They both suck
@pale kettle both bad
But estrilda is better
@mossy galleon you should win with that formation, but you have 2 heroes between 5-10 levels less than the enemies, and the rest is 30 levels below, at least take them to 101
@lime quiver okay tyy
@lime quiver hi dude, thanks for the tip! So I should 101 Saveas now along with wukong instead of Brutus, right?
Yes, take him to 101 and then only level him to 120
Is this a bad choice of a lineup? I get the 3/2 bonus
@fresh glacier you already asked that like an hour ago and someone answered you lol
Yes, take him to 101 and then only level him to 120
@lime quiver thanks a ton, dude! Been stuck in here for a while. If things still dont go well i might as well just wait it out till tomorrow. Lol
Yeah, that chapter is a wall for a lot of people, I've been stuck one or two days back then in the stages with vedan and niru, it's hard to go full lb there lol
This is what I'm working with as a all hero set-up. I appreciate any help!
@wet egret try to get a Rowan and replace him with nara, nara should be used when you have an enemy that needs to be annoyed, other than that you're lacking with heals, I'd try nemora or tasi in replace of nara
And don't make L heroes if you can't take them to L+, shemira is an excepcion, but you never know when you can acquire another lucius, maybe it's today, maybe it's in November of 2034
O ok. So try to get Rowan and swap for Nara. And don't do what I did lol
Or maybe never, like me trying to get my last copy of shemira π
It's ok though, you need only one more Lucius, you're not that far from getting L+
Any advise in getting Rowan? Other then praying to rng gods π
Shemira is given in lab, chapter 15, PoT 7 and annual aniversary event, it's just matter of time to get her
@wet egret extreme luck lol
Lol oh dear π
Only pray, I have him E+,I wish I could get 2 extra copies of him to take it to M
Last question is, do I just keep playing around Shem? Or do I potentially have a different combo of hero's I can you that would be better?
Idk I'm stuck at 9-20 π
That's up to you, I personally love shemira and used her as my carry when I shouldn't lol, saveas is better as a carry, or mirael
Oh okay, so it's more or less just personal preference. That's cool
Once she reaches +141 (+161 essentially) she becames a monster with his ult, and even more if you have her SI unlocked
Oh okay, so it's more or less just personal preference. That's cool
Well, not really, sometimes when I was stuck my only hope was leveling, and I'm sure saveas would have carried me harder than Shem, but I'm just dumm dumm
Yeah, it's the item the hero can unlock once he's M
Oooo. Thanks for the help rodri!! I appreciate it

Need a little help here
Cant beat this stage. Any ideas?
Iβve been stuck a few days, Silvina just runs around blowing up my supports. Can I get some advice?
@lime quiver definitely waiting this one out. Still too under leveled i guess. Lol
Any ideas how to get dias/pulle if I cant progress through the chapters? Stuck at kongs tower as well at 98 lol
You mean pulls? Don't worry, diamonds are achievable even if you're not progressing, the game is all about patience
You mean pulls? Don't worry, diamonds are achievable even if you're not progressing, the game is all about patience
@lime quiver they put the AFK in there alright. Thanks dude! Huge help!
Any ideas on this level? Feels like it should be doable but I can barely get an ult out. I tried using nemora vs nemora and arden vs arden but no luck...
@frail whale lucius instead of shem, call on lucius shem bot
Heyy
@empty pulsar lucius and brutus up front then?
@frail whale no brutus, put shem bot front and lucius top front with call
Ok thanks @empty pulsar the first few tries are not too promising but I ll try around a bit
Currently getting my lunch ate
So? My level is... π‘
Is this a good line-up
@umbral panther What about frontline Shemira-Lucius and Backline Tasi-Nemora-Lyca
How's my lineup?
I tried it but it was weak and there is no faction bonus
@umbral panther Tasi-Nemora-Lyca are all wilders so you get a faction bonus there
Oh wait
@fresh glacier You got the basic idea down of surrounding a good dmg dealer with supports. Those are all great heroes. You might want to replace wukong with Rowan when he hits 120. Also if you want to start using shemira as your main carry already you should start overlevelling her.
Gtg to sleep thanks for the advice @coral pier
In my opinion the main things to focus in the early game are:
-Overlevelled carry
-Good support heroes around your carry
-Any kind of faction bonus
You are hitting all those marks so I think thats a solid early game team @fresh glacier
@coral pier I call it "operation protect shemira"(not my idea btw) lol and I'm trying to get exp (and dust) as fast as I can.
Yeah the fun thing about early game is that you will progress very fast just by gaining levels. When your Shemira is overlevelled enough try putting her frontline. She will tank damage well and gain energy fast from taking damage.
@dusk nebula
Fawkes
Belinda
Rowan (call)
Lucius
Rosa
@coral pier I did put shemira Frontline before chapter 9. She wasn't overlevelled at all that time. She did a good job healing herself xD
Once your shemira starts gaining levels and ascension you can ride that wave all the way to chapter 23
@mystic yacht I still think you are pushing too fast for your gear level and are relying too heavily on Talene to cheese and carry you.
@coral pier im actually 1 copy and a few graveborns away from making her mythic.
You aren't in too big of a rush to ascend if you aren't at max level for your current ascension
@fresh glacier this is my alt with an overleveled carry
Labyrinth store
@fresh glacier Saveas overleveled (20-40 levels above crystal level) will carry you through 11/12 on his own

