#lineup-help

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pale kettle
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@gloomy elk with team level u can clear chapter 20 as well.. try rosa brutus front shemira rowan lyca back. Get Rosa to sweep shemira so Kaz cant touch shemira during that period

empty pulsar
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If you merc a rosa, she can go where brutus is, and then fawkes bottom again

gilded jewel
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@empty pulsar fawkes keeps taking the energy pot tho

vast bobcat
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Any help on this? Thanks

slender bridge
supple ice
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(Recently came back)

bright arrow
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Lightbearers - new meta

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also u can play with Eirron, Lyca, Tasi

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Ferael is pretty good, and Thoran too

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huh, and Gwyneth+Arthur

empty pulsar
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Wilder trio is still very strong.

hollow crescent
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@vast bobcat you get much further without belinda carry or someone else with huge AOE shemira starts to fall off pretty hard at chapter 25

vast bobcat
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@hollow crescent yeah i know, but she is been doing fine so far. Dont have the copies for Belinda yet.

hollow dragon
atomic lodge
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twins
Brutus
Nara
Shemira
Seaves

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idk this is my opinion

empty pulsar
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@hollow dragon it looks like you haven't stuck to 1 faction while summoning faction scrolls...I'd change that :)

Raine
Brutus
Rowan
Shem
Estrilda

Could work

atomic lodge
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or like that yeah

hollow dragon
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Belove it or not my faction scrolls have always gone to grave born just not very lucky. Ty for the guide though

pale kettle
empty pulsar
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@pale kettle stop making A tier heroes L (except for Belinda, shem, nemora). It wastes fodder.

Belinda
Lucius
Nemora
Kong
Fawkes

Could work for now

novel adder
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@pale kettle i think brutus has to be bot side.. try
belinda
lucius
wukong
brutus
nemora/fawkes
and try grims formation too

empty pulsar
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Or build saveas ASAP and run

Kong
Saveas
Nemora
Brutus
+1

pale kettle
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Ok thanks

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But i don’t have nemora

still oar
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You do. It's the sheep girl

pale kettle
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O

hollow blade
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Guys i need help pls

empty pulsar
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One sec, I think I have a screen @hollow blade

hollow blade
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Ok @empty pulsar

empty pulsar
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@hollow blade I didnt save that one, but

Tasi
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Rosa

Or merc a fawkes and try

Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Rosa

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You can swap around brutus and lucius if you cant get lucius ult while running call

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As a future tip, stop making A tier heroes L with the exception of purchasable heroes you are currently using :) @hollow blade

still oar
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If you need power. Resetting luc and leveling your saveas up to 141 is a great boost

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To all

empty pulsar
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@still oar who is that for?

sudden sparrow
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Mcfire

still oar
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^

empty pulsar
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Oh I gotcha. You mean for breaking the crystal cap :D I was like...theres an A shem, why run saveas 😅

still oar
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Lol all's good 👍

robust forum
empty pulsar
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@robust forum

Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Ferael

sleek stone
odd ginkgo
empty pulsar
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@odd ginkgo no, keep saveas and get him L+. Replace Belinda with nemora

Nemora
Saveas
Tasi
Lucius
Kong

dreamy oasis
empty pulsar
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@tall palm I prefer saveas >mihrael. Usually nem is good to charm the enemy saveas

More levels should help :)

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@dreamy oasis I might have screens for that one, one moment.

dark current
empty pulsar
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@dreamy oasis

Nemora
Eiron
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi

tall palm
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Its worse with saveas :(

dreamy oasis
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Thx will try

empty pulsar
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@tall palm with saveas @ 100?

tall palm
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I have 4 star elite mage items so my magesare better

empty pulsar
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Ah, I dont upgrade items before M

tall palm
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I stuck for almost 3 days so

dreamy oasis
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@empty pulsar Eironn can’t dodge first pos even with grace

empty pulsar
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Hmm... I've seen it cleared that way, but I think eironn was A+ let me see...

dreamy oasis
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I saw that one too

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Mine doesn’t pull and instantly dies

empty pulsar
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For that one seirus needed to get charmed first, then safiya iirc.

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Can you merc one?

dreamy oasis
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Rather not, saving for 25-48

empty pulsar
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@dark current I think I did

Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Rosa

For that one. Same hero levels, except fawkes Rowan and rosa were E+

dark current
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Okay thanks

empty pulsar
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@tall palm who have you got from lab so far? I would pick up a nemora and shem, you need some sort of healer :)

robust forum
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@empty pulsar Thanks, I’ll give that a shot!

rocky hawk
empty pulsar
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@rocky hawk do you actually have enough E copies to ascend anyone? Also, if not looking for lineup help this would go in #classic-questions

pale kettle
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i tried using belinda/shemira/wukong as a carry on level 140 didn't work

So i put saveas back, any tips to change something here the problem is the Silvina kills my backline too fast and then i lose

i tried multiple positions over the last hours the closest i got was to 2 heroes left

empty pulsar
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@pale kettle you'll want nemora to charm saveas to help. Can you post all your heroes?

pale kettle
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yeah let me do that

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also quoting for that the issue is the Silvina i dont know how to counter her

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she always targets my Rowan. if i swap Rowan with rosa she 1 shots rosa. at least with Rowan he doesn't get 1 shot

empty pulsar
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She will always target your lowest def, so you can change your lowest def if needed with gear/relics

pale kettle
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I put my Rowan with duras grace artifact and best gear so she survives combined with hendriks shield

empty pulsar
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I remember playing around with it for rosa/Rowan. In theory rosa shouldn't die to the first hit.

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@pale kettle I would run

Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Saveas
Rosa

pale kettle
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will give it a try now. putting my fawkes in crystal

empty pulsar
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Or replace rosa with nemora, move Rowan top, nemora mid, fawkes bottom, charm saveas

strong flower
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Any help would be appreciated i have tried everything but no lineup works for me

empty pulsar
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@strong flower when you clear it, please post and tag the image. Also, please post all your heroes

pale kettle
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i dont know how this worked but thank you @empty pulsar Fawkes op haha

empty pulsar
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@pale kettle no problem

worthy bane
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@strong flower you're using the right comp, just need to rng it with proper artifacts, I piloted that team 2 days ago and did it with 3 less levels and no +30's. Call tasi, grace lyca, chalice rowan, drape nem, eye fera, I'll psot my winning screenshot in a second

strong flower
worthy bane
empty pulsar
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29-60 for tracking later

strong flower
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Hmmm twins are my problem no one has ascended i can borrow 😦 @empty pulsar

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I will try those artifacts and see how it works , thank you @worthy bane

amber jay
jovial gate
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@amber jay I spy a talene. Talene carried me like crazy although I use belinda. But always worth swapping out Brutus for talene, and maybe using lucius where Rosa is.

empty pulsar
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@amber jay
Have you tried lucius > brutus?

jovial gate
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And since you have arden too you can try him instead of fawkes. See which cc is more useful

amber jay
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@empty pulsar yes I did

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@jovial gate alright, I'll try that

tawdry ibex
frail whale
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I am stuck again, these last stages of chapter 14 suck. Any ideas? I did some testing but nothing got any of my heroes to ult so far...

jovial gate
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@frail whale try athalia against arden to stop the vines

amber jay
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@jovial gate thanks I switched talene on and successfully finished it

frail whale
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So athalia instead of arden? @jovial gate

jovial gate
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Nice! Talene got my team from chap 17 to 20 basically when I discovered my good lineup @amber jay

empty pulsar
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@amber jay I used all L+ and E+ for 14 and 15, didnt get shem M until 15. So you can definitely clear it without talene cheese :) iirc I was 160 and lower for Ch 15.

jovial gate
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I would drop tasi @frail whale

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Although, Arden might get killed by ogi. Experiment

frail whale
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Ok, I will give it a few tries and report back how it went, thanks @jovial gate

empty pulsar
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@tawdry ibex run rosa instead of Hogan as a first try:)

jovial gate
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@tawdry ibex Brutus Arden instead of Belinda hogan, maybe

empty pulsar
jovial gate
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Just try everything apparently 😂 it’s good to throw multiple ideas out at least

amber jay
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@empty pulsar oh alright thanks

empty pulsar
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@jovial gate definitely!

pale kettle
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got stuck a little again i replaced the rosa with nemora felt like she was doing more. but not sure with this one it's another silvina level

empty pulsar
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@frail whale use the same team here you would use for 16-40. That was confusing to look at

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@pale kettle gotta charm the saveas remember?

jovial gate
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@pale kettle maybe fawkes on top and replace nemora with athalia bottom so Lucius isn’t killed too fast

pale kettle
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thanks

jovial gate
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More than one way to skin a cat 😛

frail whale
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Which one would that be @empty pulsar ?

empty pulsar
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@frail whale can you post all your heroes for me?

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Be back in 5min

pale kettle
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thanks @jovial gate athalia distracted that guy for 3 seconds enough for lucius to proc and then gg

tawdry ibex
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Their arden cc faster than my arden D:

jovial gate
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Nice Berlin. @tawdry ibex what happens if they don’t vine your Arden, do you still get killed

tawdry ibex
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Their arden always cc faster. I tried to swap Fawkes w/ Arden to cc. I still get killed

faint quest
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@tawdry ibexput 4 star mythic shoes on him and it should be 50/50 who roots first

jovial gate
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@tawdry ibex I see you have a nara that can stop their Arden

faint quest
empty pulsar
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@faint quest I think we discussed it a lot today with Pain. Let me scroll up

jovial gate
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@faint quest try the same putting nara against arden. I also like running Rosa Shem front with Lucius behind Rosa

empty pulsar
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Oh! 54 not 34. I have screens somewhere

faint quest
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Hehe ya and alr sirv

faint quest
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mmm alr thx bro

pale kettle
tawdry ibex
frail whale
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I am a noob myself @pale kettle but I usually ran Saveas in the back through these stages and not in the front. Maybe worth a try

empty pulsar
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@pale kettle keep running nemora in there, so your back line is fawkes, Rowan, nemora for this one.

Also put saveas vs vedan

empty pulsar
pale kettle
mystic yacht
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I don't have Belinda x)

tawdry ibex
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I feel Fawkes doesn't coffin Kaz

mystic yacht
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Nope, the arden

empty pulsar
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@mystic yacht use shem instead then. I didn't have A shem, only reason for running Belinda.

frail whale
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@empty pulsar can you post hoe you did 14-38 for me? Thanks

mystic yacht
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How, the placement

mystic yacht
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@empty pulsar The placement of the 20-30 please

maiden helm
slender echo
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Just going to level Rowan and Nemora to 200 while I wait for purples to level Belinda and Brutus up

mystic yacht
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Use shemira men

oblique ember
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Shemira and brutus

empty pulsar
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@frail whale I dont have non end of chapter levels pre 20 I dont think. Can you post the stage?

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@mystic yacht just switch Belinda with shem :) same placement

mystic yacht
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Ok

oblique ember
mystic yacht
oblique ember
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Even when i equip lucius with best gear he dies in an instant lol

maiden helm
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@mystic yacht @oblique ember Who do I replace for Shemira and Brutus?

empty pulsar
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@mystic yacht yes.

oblique ember
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Wu kong and

empty pulsar
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@slender echo I would run wilders there, charm ferael. Gotta go back to work. Bye everyone.

mystic yacht
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Brutus, front, shemira front or back

oblique ember
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The middle guy sith backpack

pale kettle
empty pulsar
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@slender echo

Nemora
Shem
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca

pale kettle
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huh tried multiple positions saveas/lucius swapped, fawkes swapped with rosa rowan and nemora between

oblique ember
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I have jst realized that saveas is too good started using him in main team since chapter 9. Shud have used him early on

pale kettle
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saveas is carrying my ass all the way upto chapter 11 after this level he is very good @oblique ember

oblique ember
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Yah before iused him as fodder but now m saving him

pale kettle
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you think i finally reached the point where i need to level up heroes or is there a way we can pull this off @empty pulsar ]

faint quest
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@pale kettledoes Lucius survive to get his ultimate up?

pale kettle
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if i use the artifact for 10 energy regen per sec yes he does in the last second but my team dies after that

faint quest
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What bout fawkes

oblique ember
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My lucius dies before his energy fills half way 😂

pale kettle
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he puts 1 enemy in the coffin and that's it he gets 1 shot few seconds after

frail whale
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I tried this setup for a while and also swapping in athalia to counter arden. Any other suggestion or is it just rng at this point? @empty pulsar

faint quest
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alr lemme think

pale kettle
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the sushi if your saveas is overleveled put him for frontline and support him with healing heroes @oblique ember

oblique ember
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He also works im frontline?

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M waiting to get him to legendary

pale kettle
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i used to be using him in the backline, but once person suggested i use him as frontline and never put him in backline again. since he is able to tank more hits than anyone so by the moment he is low all my supports will have full energy to boost him to full hp and win the stage

mystic yacht
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Doesn't work @empty pulsar

faint quest
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@pale kettletry
Fawkes
Belinda
Rowan
Saveas
Nemora (switch Belinda and nemora around if that doesn't work and put the energy artifact on rowan)

mystic yacht
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You : lvl 180, me : lvl 160

oblique ember
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But profile lvl doesnt matter right?

mystic yacht
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Lvl of heroes...

oblique ember
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Oh😂

pale kettle
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@faint quest i tried belinda being 140 level it didn't work, i also tried having her few times where you told me and she just get's 1 shot under a milisecond

oblique ember
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I guess i’ll try with brutus and saveas in frontline

pale kettle
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you have brutus too? sushi that's very lucky wish i had him when i was 9 you should be able to get chapter 10 like me. what are your levels wait a sec

oblique ember
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My legend+ 140belinda Also dies in a second im frontline

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Yah legend 121 now pushing him to 140 main focus

pale kettle
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can you post a screenshot of your team sushi

faint quest
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Saveas needs to get rid of that vedan asap and Belinda helping him in the back try having Belinda on bottom behind saveas and nemora in middle to charm isabella @pale kettle

pale kettle
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thanks let me try that

maiden helm
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Should I reset 100 Wukong for Shemira?

faint quest
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Ya I would he's only good like really early game and end game @maiden helm

oblique ember
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Yah i also havent used wu kong since late ch 7

pale kettle
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thesushi i would reset belinda, give the food to saveas if i were you

Nemira
Saveas
Arden
Brutus
Rosaline

Try that if i were you that's what i would use

timid jetty
oblique ember
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My saveas goes only 120

pale kettle
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oh then... also @timid jetty Try using Tasi instead estrida and lucius instead wukong

faint quest
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@timid jettyfirst of all switch that graveborn guy for tasi and put the horn artifact on her

timid jetty
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Okay so Tasi for Oden and Lucius for Estrilda

faint quest
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If Lucius doesn't do his ult before they all die then keep estrilda

pale kettle
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@somber gorge your strat didn't work 1, belinda+saveas combined could not kill vedan fast enough in time since i was removing rowan from my team my other 3 heroes was dieing almost instant since before the rowan potions was sustaining my lucius on staying alive just long enough to trigger 1 ultimate if rng was with my side

oblique ember
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But i think lucius will die instantly😂 i also have epic lucius 120 but dies before ult so have been using hendric and brutus as tank

timid jetty
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Wait so do I replace Tasi for Oden or Estrilda?

oblique ember
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Oden

pale kettle
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@oblique ember you must be doing something wrong i have him 120 and i was able to get with him on stage 10-40 the one i am now without him dieing

oblique ember
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Estrilda might help to raise the attaxk rating

pale kettle
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frontline every time too

oblique ember
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Hmmm maybe shud try the positiong of lucius

faint quest
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@pale kettlehmmm ur maybe underleveled then only other thing is putting nemora behind saveas and letting her charm vedan so he can slowly die and Belinda in the top, rowan in the middle and a tank in the top front

timid jetty
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IT WORKED

oblique ember
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Noice congrats

pale kettle
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let me try that and thanks, one guild mate told me i can beat every single level till the game wont let you play because underlevel or was he trolling me to keep trying

timid jetty
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Also is it worth to put Belinda in the front? She’s L+ and has almost 10k health compared to everyone’s 5k

faint quest
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grats dude Never take tasi off your team she's gonna have to be there till end game @timid jetty

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@pale kettlelol good luck

oblique ember
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Yah tasi’s ult is very helpful

faint quest
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^

pale kettle
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i wish i had a tasi, waiting for the event to come in 1 day so i will be able to get her

timid jetty
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Should I put Tasi and Belinda in front and Lucius, Estrilda, and Rowan in the back?

faint quest
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@timid jettyi recommend to get Brutus into the crystal and replacing him with estrilda he's also gonna be there till end game

pale kettle
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from this event you will be able to get her after logging for 7 days in a row. it's 1 year anniversary event

oblique ember
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WhenV

faint quest
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Oh nice

timid jetty
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So my team comp is gonna be Brutus, Lucius, Belinda, Rowan, and Tasi

pale kettle
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i recommend getting her too sushi
on 9/4/2020 in 1 day the event will start

after that you login for 7 days in a row you will be able to choose Shemira/Tasi/Nemora/Oscar i will choose Tasi

oblique ember
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When is/was that event? Does the heroes change in lab store?

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Ohhhhhhh noice have been waiting for tasi

pale kettle
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me too man...i need her bad

timid jetty
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I need one more Tasi to get her to L+

faint quest
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@timid jettyswitch Lucius for estrilda since he's too squishy as an elite

pale kettle
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haha you lucky

oblique ember
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Yah i made a mistake with that event where u can choose different cards or faction scroll

faint quest
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@timid jettytry getting up a saveas and replacing Lucius/estrilda with him he's gonna be the best glass cannon for you

oblique ember
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Shud have chose lucius than factionscroll😢

timid jetty
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So my future team comp is looking like Belinda, Rowan...who???

pale kettle
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haha i choosed lucius instead factionscroll.

timid jetty
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Belinda, Rowan, Brutus, Estrilda, and Tasi I think

faint quest
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@timid jettyBelinda,Rowan,Tasi (back) Brutus, Saveas (front)

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Yea use estrilda if your saveas is too weak👌

timid jetty
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Slight issue, Tasi is dying before her ult even with the horn

maiden helm
timid jetty
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@maiden helm Maybe try putting Nemora in the front and Lucius behind her so that Lucius runs up to Silva instead of the enemy

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Or whoever she goes to actually, either Rowan or Nemora

faint quest
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@maiden helmreplace Lucius with Brutus

timid jetty
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And try maybe putting Eironn in there somewhere for the faction bonus and Graveborns being weak to Wilders

faint quest
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@timid jettyu got a lyca?

timid jetty
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Unfortunately no, I really want her for the haste

faint quest
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Ah ya use her when u get her Try putting nemora in the crystal for now

maiden helm
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Shemira does no damage... She's getting out damaged by Lyca

timid jetty
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Maybe take Shemira out and put Eironn

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And maybe try your luck in the Peaks of Time or the Tower to get resources

zinc cove
maiden helm
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Reset Shemira for Wukong and used Oden to Port Silva when she jumped on him

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Welp wasted 40 Diamonds xD

empty pulsar
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@zinc cove

Fawkes
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Rosa

In other notes- get shem to M ASAP for easier clears :)

strong dome
hollow abyss
paper heath
faint quest
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@tall palmtry using Lyca instead of wu kong

tall palm
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As backliner right

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I see a guy that using lyca as frontline so i wanted to ask

empty pulsar
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@hollow abyss stop making A tier heroes into L heroes if you cant go L+. Wastes fodder. You could probabaly have an L+ to feed Belinda to make her M at this point.

You can run
Rosa
Belinda
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi/nemora

strong flower
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Still trying that stupid stage and its not going well so far 🤷🏻‍♂️ @worthy bane

worthy bane
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took me about 4 hours worth of rng

strong flower
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I saw in your ss you sent before that the enemy heroes didnt even scratch your heroes ! Their damage was zero !!

empty pulsar
worthy bane
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@strong flower I had to dodge and charm perfectly, then dodge again and have perfect tasi tp into rowan coins and fera roars all at the same time

strong flower
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Ill try for another hour if it doesnt work then will leave it for some days its bugging me so much , anyways thank you 😊 @worthy bane

frail whale
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I got really close a few times but didnt get it done. Do I need to force rng harder or are there any tweaks I could make to improve my setup?

bright arrow
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@frail whale try Shemira, Lucius, Arden, Rowan, Nemora

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if Nemora charm Saveas, u have a chance to win

frail whale
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Ok, I‘ll try, thanks!

amber jay
gray merlin
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is wukong a frontliner? he seems squishy

shut geyser
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I use wu kong as back liner

amber jay
bright arrow
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@amber jay try to change Fawkess with Arden

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and u still can progress

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do u really need help?

gray merlin
calm nova
gray merlin
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what bout me? i plan on putting lucius on the frontline instead of horse girl™️

bright arrow
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@calm nova switch lucius - shemira, nemora against belinda

calm nova
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@gray merlin try swapping estrilda and lucius with Rosa and lucius

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@bright arrow doesn't work 😢

bright arrow
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what happens?

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also u can use lucius, brutus, shemira, rowan, (nemora/fawkess)

empty pulsar
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@amber jay I think I saved a screen for that. Run nemora middle to charm the ferael at least.

amber jay
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Oh, I see now

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But then I don’t know where to place my people now

empty pulsar
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It's old, gotta go through a lot of my screens :D

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@amber jay post all your heroes please

amber jay
empty pulsar
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@calm nova who does fawkes Coffin? Post all your heroes.

calm nova
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@empty pulsar it's fine @bright arrow solution worked

empty pulsar
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@amber jay

Rowan
Lucius
Nemora
Shem
Fawkes
Try this until nemora charms ferael, if needed you can crystal lyca and replace fawkes to get charm off sooner. Can also try rosa>fawkes, etc... key is charming the ferael

amber jay
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Alright I’ll try

empty pulsar
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Nice, that's the team I cleared 16-40 with too...I think haha. I get 15 and 16 mixed up for some reason.

sharp bear
crimson shale
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I don't know if I can help you with your lineup right now, but maybe reset Wu Kong and put the levels into Brutus. Since he can teach 140 which will be best for your resonating crystal @sharp bear

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If you don't know how to reset. You can go to the tab with noble tavern and guild hall etc. the "Rickity Cart" should be there for you to reset heroes

sharp bear
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Ok thanks

crimson shale
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Np! That's probably one of the main things your lacking. Since I'm guessing your usual lineup is the 5 champs in the top row. Leveling up brutus might be able to help

past kettle
sullen aspen
pale kettle
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@lilac tulip please repost your heroes and the stage in this channel

covert condor
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@past kettle you should stack saveas, and use mauler / lightbearer heroes not shemira yet. or saveas lucius + wilders. but always using a 3/5 faction bonus at least in the top left courner

feral abyss
empty pulsar
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@sullen aspen post all your heroes please :)

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@feral abyss I'm assuming fawkes gets 1 shot, lucius doesnt get ulti off?

feral abyss
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nah fawkes lives rowan dies

empty pulsar
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@feral abyss who has call?

feral abyss
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rowan

empty pulsar
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Try chalice Rowan, call lucius, it helps me out randomly sometimes with Rowan.

feral abyss
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nah already tried :p

empty pulsar
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Sigh

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I wish you had stronger wilders haha

feral abyss
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niru silvina murder my team

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need fodder have copies for lyca and nem

empty pulsar
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Yeah, they tend to do that vs lb haha. Let me see what I can find, I'll tag you if I do.

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@feral abyss for fun

Fawkes
Shem
Rowan
Rosa
Lucius

feral abyss
#

she gets 1hit by isabella :p

empty pulsar
#

Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Shem

brave oriole
#

@feral abyss Lucius need call

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so you have to try Lucius Rosa, fawk rowan bel

feral abyss
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he has it talene dies silvina+niru kill rowan and nothing else lives isabella

brave oriole
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silvina being in front like helps you atm 😊

empty pulsar
#

Also can try
Belinda
Lucius
Rosa
Brutus
Fawkes

brave oriole
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he need belinda down to kill ferael first

empty pulsar
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There is no ferael

brave oriole
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not ferael, niru and tasi 😂

empty pulsar
#

😅😂

brave oriole
#

Lucius with call stuck silvina on him , and get fast the shield up

empty pulsar
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Belinda top should kill isabelle, silvina, while brutus tanks niru. Imo, try both :P

feral abyss
#

no silvina kills rowan

brave oriole
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if you put dura's call on Lucius and Lucius in front of silvina she won't jump on rowan

feral abyss
#

dude

cursive bear
brave oriole
#

tasi won't help, try Brutus maybe to reduce his def

cursive bear
#

I tried ezih, he almost died then heal back up lol :(

brave oriole
#

but on peaks, it's mostly 100% about your buffs

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so, sometimes if you got bad buffs, start again the peak

empty pulsar
#

I hate that peak...that's my input haha

brave oriole
#

firebringer icebringer the most effective buffs

cursive bear
#

Hes such a coward :(

brave oriole
#

well, use athalia cuz she hits a lot

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to keep him debuffed 😂

lilac tulip
#

@pale kettle oh i thought i did it here my bad smh

cursive bear
#

Urg he keeps bouncing around

empty pulsar
#

You have the right idea, charm the saveas - restart if you dont. I'd put Belinda top and run
Tasi
Belinda
Rosa
Brutus
Nemora and see how it goes @lilac tulip

lilac tulip
#

aight thanks ill try

empty pulsar
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I also prefer saveas early >belinda @lilac tulip. Another tip, avoid making A tier heroes L that can't go L+/A.

pastel shuttle
empty pulsar
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@pastel shuttle post all your heroes please

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@pastel shuttle

Tasi
Lucius/Brutus
Lyca
Shem/eironn
Nemora

restive tundra
#

Need help with this,I don't think the power difference is Massive Enough for me to be stuck on this,I can't even kill two heroes most of the times
Prime issue is No one ever being able to use their spell,Even Frontliners(Lucius can once every 5 attempts)
And Fawkes captured shem instead of Ferael

empty pulsar
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@restive tundra use your shem. I did an A Belinda @ 220 with

Nemora
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

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Gotta charm the ferael :) Then you should have an easy clear.

raven ermine
#

i'm stuck on 7-24 with this line up, can anyone help me? if so i would love to chat one on one pleas.

empty pulsar
#

@raven ermine post all your heroes

raven ermine
#

got it

restive tundra
#

I see i see, Would nemora preferably target fareal or do i have to retry till she acts upon.

raven ermine
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then the rest are blue

empty pulsar
#

@raven ermine

Rowan
Belinda
Nemora
Lucius
Lyca

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@restive tundra retry until she does :)

restive tundra
#

Cleared
Thanks mate

empty pulsar
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No problem!

near thunder
#

A little stuck 😩

empty pulsar
#

Level saveas instead of Shem

Nemora
Hogan
Fawkes
Saveas
Kong @near thunder

near thunder
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@empty pulsar thank you again x

pale kettle
raven ermine
empty pulsar
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@raven ermine stop running the samurai :)

Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Belinda
Tasi

Charm Ferael

raven ermine
#

got it

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thx fam @empty pulsar

empty pulsar
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@raven ermine you can also reset Belinda and run Shemira :)

raven ermine
#

fair but it wouldn't be same tear right?

empty pulsar
#

@raven ermine

Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Belinda/shem
Nemor

chilly echo
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How r the 2 new heros

empty pulsar
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@chilly echo watch #classic-questions for a reply since you asked there. A lot of people are asking the same question :)

raven ermine
#

still can't pass it with that layout @empty pulsar

tiny birch
raven ermine
maiden helm
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@raven ermine Try Lyca and Nemora over Belinda and Mirael and hope for a lucky Charm on Brutus?

raven ermine
#

ok

zinc stump
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@raven ermine Bel, Rosa front, Luc, Raine, Fawkes

raven ermine
#

ok

pale kettle
maiden helm
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@pale kettle How is Ukyo?

pale kettle
#

hes good for knockback and works decent with thoran cheese

restive tundra
raven ermine
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@zinc stump I don't have half thoes heros

calm basalt
past kettle
pliant mountain
still oar
#

Don't make brutus your carry and resonate Talene. Using close quarter combatant with no extended reach will make the stages harder brutus Talene tasi eironn Luci should be decent for general @past kettle

past kettle
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@still oar okay thanks ill go with that for now then

near jolt
#

maybe this photo is better

cold trench
#

Hardstuck on this stage the isabela is just lazing my Brutus and Lucius, Lucius can’t even get a shield off any tips?(this was the best lineup I could find)

ornate totem
willow moon
slim ocean
#

Can somebody help me on 16-20?

jolly dew
#

For starters how should we set out wish list?

still oar
#

Try
Tasi/nemora

Shem
Rowan
Rosa
Lucius @slim ocean

proven willow
#

Is Zolrath good? I have
WuKong

Talene
Khazard
Nemora
Rosalina

still oar
#

Try
Nemora/lyca

Lorsan
Eironn
Tasi
Lyca/nemora @willow moon

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Not for non big spender. His skits really niche and hard to use without him being proper and decent @proven willow.
Your current seems better without zolrath

pastel oyster
#

I haven't been playing long so I basically have been using whatever hero I get first then level them up as much as possible

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Any advice would help thanks

still oar
#

Resonate oden instead and try him. Your current hero lacking the true dps sans maybe vedan if you overlevel him. If you're gonna use him make sure that he has level way more than your other heroes. Try some thing
Oden

Talene
Vedan
Rosa
Nemora.
Backline vedan should help him getting his ult pop @proven willow

proven willow
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vedan ?

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i just level up him so that my Wukong and talene can reach level 120

cold trench
tulip bramble
still oar
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You're doing pretty well so far. The recommended order for leveling up hero is dps>carry>support. And it seems Belinda is your carry so I suggest to level her up more. Please check pinned guides in here and #lineup-help . They will help you understanding the game mechanic.
Hogan lucius
Belinda lyca ezzih
Might good for general. And ezzih is getting better after 121 or so when ult activate horrify @pastel oyster

proven willow
#

so oden is better than khazard?

still oar
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Vedan is one of the good early carry of you overlevel him. But only when overleveled. Please check the pinned message in here and #classic-questions for guides to help you understanding the game mechanic @proven willow

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Rosa Belinda lucius rowan fawkes maybe @cold trench

cold trench
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I tried that many times but the isabela just destroys my Lucius or whoever is on the top row and fawkes just get destroyed if he is in back row top

still oar
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Try
Tasi

Kaz
Rowan/lyca
Shem
Nemora
Start the fight by charming ferael. If ferael cc you then restart @tulip bramble

cold trench
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Lucius can handle isabela but there is Brutus and the web hero is just too much no one can handle that except Brutus immunity

tulip bramble
#

Cool, thanks! @still oar

still oar
#

Fawkes does not coffin ferael @cold trench?

cold trench
#

He does

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But the main Problem is isabela because she just destroyed whoever is in front row of the top

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And fawkes just dies if he is hit by the web

still oar
#

Try my line up with call on lucius and rng it so lucius can interupt brutus and pop his shield. The rng is to stop brutus from roaring

cold trench
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Alright thanks a lot I’ll go try that thanks a lot for your time

jolly dew
#

For starting the game new, which heroes should you have on your wish list??? I

still oar
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Lb. Rowan, lucius, Rosa, fawkes/estrilda belinda/gwen.
Mauler safiya, brutus, skriath, khasos, skreg
Wilder tasi eironn lyca nemora lorsan
Gb ferael, oden, thoran, izold/nara, grezhul/shemira.
Put Shem if you want to get her faster.
@jolly dew

tulip bramble
#

That worked perfectly @still oar - thanks!! 👍 👏

pale kettle
#

Hi guys may i get some help with 15-40 please

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Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Rosaline

@pale kettle maybe

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Or thalene on brutus

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Overleveled shemira?

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Yep

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Ok let me try. Problem with shemira is I only have 1 mythic boots on her

pine folio
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i need a little help on what tanks i should use 😳 i havent played this game in forever and i came back and realized that maybe my frontline [vedan and golus] is kinda lacking now :/ i think theyre the best i got tho? idk lmao

odd ginkgo
#

Guys can i do an all light + wukong team? Lucuis estrilda belinda wukong raine

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Belinda will be leg

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Problem is will be missing cc

near jolt
pale kettle
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@pine folio Lucius thoran

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@near jolt

Belinda
Lucius
Farael
Rosaline
Shemira/nemora

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Need help

harsh cedar
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But im not an expert on lineups

pale kettle
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@pale kettle that didn't work lol. My shemira died too fast

harsh cedar
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@pale kettle i have a lineup with brutus, lucius, belinda, rosa and shem where you place brutus and lucius up front

pale kettle
#

On 15-40 where I'm at? @harsh cedar

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What are the levels though?

harsh cedar
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the only thing is that my rosa is low level rn but need to add her again to resonating

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also instead of hendrik you can use lucius

harsh cedar
#

but a tip i can give @pale kettle try to get either shem or belinda 160 instead of lucius since they can both easily carry and since your shem is M id say make her 160 even higher if possible cause shes really strong still

pale kettle
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I just reset my heroes and made shemira 175

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She still dies fairly quickly

harsh cedar
#

an other problem is that its an LB team against a GB team GB have an advantage against LB and i have this problem to where i sometimes get stuck against GB

pale kettle
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Yeah that's the pain. I get decimated in 12 seconds

ornate totem
atomic flower
sour sundial
#

You could try borrowing one. If not an option then your Belinda might be the best choice with your pool, not many options

torn sable
atomic flower
#

Thanks, I'm actually about to try using her and Shem together to finish chapter 20

solid lintel
#

Best line up?

pale kettle
#

@solid lintel
Belinda
Lucius
Luca/farael
Shemira
Oscar

zinc cove
harsh cedar
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@torn sable have you tried changing shem and rosa up? i usually just move characters around but having rosa as frontline to me doesnt seem to strong of a defense

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@zinc cove try putting brutus in for rowan put lucius up against kaz with belinda behind him so she attacks her too and brutus up top to tank estrilda bc of his ult he can survive longer hopefully this works against the enemy line up

solid lintel
#

@pale kettle whos luca?

torn sable
#

@harsh cedar yeah you are right this works the best so far... but my problem is, that as soon as vedan gets his ult all my heros die too fast

harsh cedar
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@torn sable then try brutus instead of rowan ive noticed that rowan is really strong but cant help you in every situation maybe brutus can help you more then rowan does

pale kettle
#

@solid lintel lyca

dusk nebula
coral quail
#

I can ascend a bunch of rare tier heroes to potentially use as fodder for her I think so I need a 3rd copy of her or something? Also should I use her? My team atm is:
Hogan E+, Wukong E, Ferael E, Mirael E+ and Rosa E

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Sorry that was for Shemira I just copy and pasted

summer marsh
limpid quail
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@dusk nebula where does silivna jump? who is coffined?

summer marsh
#

Any suggestions?

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For my 5th that is

limpid quail
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@summer marsh shemira, brutus, tasi,lyca, nemora make a great team. the wilders also dont need the high ascensions to work in that comp. make sure to get you shemira up asap, overleveld carry is the key to success

winter matrix
#

Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes?

summer marsh
#

Can they even compete at stage 17 though?

winter matrix
#

That team carried me to ch22

summer marsh
#

I know they say to only use fodder but should I use nara to boost up my shakira?

limpid quail
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overleveled shemira is the key though. no dont use nara as fodder

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wait for the L silvina that is down there

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then reset lucius if needed to make shemira 200

summer marsh
#

I have a lot of resources as I'm horribly unlucky with card pulls

limpid quail
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just make sure she hits the 200 cap, and refrain from making more L heroes

summer marsh
#

So if I ran lucious shemira nemora rosaline who do you think could make a good fifth for now?

limpid quail
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@summer marsh rowan or fawkes, for a faction bonus

summer marsh
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Ok ty

limpid quail
#

preferably rowan

near jolt
#

@pale kettle sorry for the late reply, seems like they need to be way higher in lvl

placid seal
#

what do u guys thing of the lineup : front brutus/lucius and tasi, then in the back ukyo nemora and lyca

dusk nebula
#

@limpid quail silver to Rowan, thoran coffined

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*vedan not thoran 😁

limpid quail
#

@dusk nebula try with
fawkes/nemora
lucius
rowan
belinda
rosa

solar locust
#

I used to use Hendrik, but he dies so fast that i just switched wu Kong out to the front, and hope he ults before he dies

faint quest
#

@solar locustswitch numisu for Lyca and switch positions with wu kong

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@ornate totem that's one of the biggest walls of chpt 25 so expect to be stuck there for a while if u don't get godlike rng

solar locust
#

you mean switch wu kong and grezhul?

faint quest
#

@solar locust
Saveas
Grezhul
Shemira
Lyca
Wu kong

solar locust
#

hm, still isn't working, do you think my saveas needs more levels, or I should start bringing the others up

faint quest
#

def max out saveas until he hits his lvl cap with each ascension and then bring the others up

solar locust
#

Also do you think it's worth me getting brutus from the anniversary for a mauler tank to help in the early game with saveas? Or should I just get tasi cause she's the best?

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Oh if I'm subbing lyca for numisu tasi would synergize

faint quest
#

hmmmmm both are huge requirements for early-end game so depends really but I'd go with Getting a tasi

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Then try to get a Brutus when u can

solar locust
#

Ok thanks :). And for faction scrolls, should I be going graveborne for shem, or lightbearers just because they're busted

faint quest
#

Tbh go for graveborne for Shem she's gonna be ur main mid-end game carry, lightbearers come in mainly in end game and ya np :)

solar locust
#

okay sure, thank you

stray pendant
still oar
#

Try
Nemora

Shemira
Eironn
Rowan
Lucius @stray pendant

near jolt
#

I'm still trying to figure this out

empty pulsar
#

@solar locust I wouldn't get GB from faction scrolls. Tried doing a GB alt and it's much more difficult with the lack of support heroes. LB or wilder is much more F2P friendly.

#

@near jolt post all your heroes.

still oar
#

Let see
Belinda/rosa

Lucius
Rosa/belinda
wukong
Nemora.
Charm estrilda so she won't charge @near jolt

placid flower
solar locust
#

@empty pulsar so I should probably go for wilder then, to support my early carries right? LB seem to be more of late game powerhouses, I’m still gonna be at the Saveas/Shemira stage for a while

empty pulsar
#

@solar locust LB is strong everywhere :) Rowan is a huge help at all points in the game too. For one of my alts I frequently merc Rowan for stages I'm stuck at.

solar locust
#

My LB wishlist is lucius, Belinda, Rosaline, Rowan, Hendrik

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Is that good?

empty pulsar
#

I'd replace Hendrick with gwen personally. But both are good choices.

#

Be back in like 15min, post in #classic-questions with general questions and more people will chime in. Also, view the pinned topics in #classic-questions to avoid early mistakes (Paddy's post).

solar locust
#

Okay, thank you!

obtuse iris
winter matrix
#

Belinda
Hogan
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes/Rosaline

slender echo
#

The mauler annihilates me, can't seem to charm him or even mitigate him with nara or athalia

winter matrix
#

Maybe

Fawkes/Rosa
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Nara

Also, are you focusing on Rowas SI?

slender echo
#

Think I've been focusing on Shems SI

winter matrix
#

Focus all emblems on Rowan

slender echo
#

OK, he's on +9 at the moment

mystic yacht
slender echo
#

Nara pulls Tasi, who kicks her ass, Rosa gets killed before ult, then the rat goes wild and wipes everyone except Shem who dies in about 2 seconds with everyone wailing on her

restive cloud
#

Try fawkes see if he coffins vurk

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Then just merc a strong fawkes if he does

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Try to get some faction bonus too, extra stats are always nice, 3 same faction is 10% hp and atk to all team

ornate totem
restive cloud
#

@slender echo id use something like:
Shem
Rosa
Rowan
Fawkes
Belinda

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When tasi banishes shem, rosa will move to belinda and hopefully ready to cast ulti when vurk gets out of coffin

empty pulsar
mystic yacht
#

I can, but I need to buy kassos in labyrinthe shop and sacrifice saveas legendary+

empty pulsar
#

athalia or nara vs safiya, make sure lucius has call @ornate totem

mystic yacht
#

@empty pulsar

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I want rowan in mythic

empty pulsar
#

@mystic yacht up to you at that point. I had a 180 crystal in 17/18 iirc, and full M on everyone Ch 16.

mystic yacht
#

So I buy the kassos for 45 000 points ??

empty pulsar
#

That's up to you. I used Khasos to break the cap, but I didnt have brutus M and got lots of Belinda fodder. You don't need shem anymore at this point from lab.

ornate totem
#

@empty pulsar i tryed athalia but no i don't help, also very hard to doge fawkes coffin!

mystic yacht
#

okay, thank you

empty pulsar
#

@ornate totem I'll see what I can find when I'm less busy at work :) post all your heroes for me?

ornate totem
pale kettle
#

Fawkes
Thoran
Rowan
Lucius
Shem/Belinda @ornate totem

cinder crag
#

Any lineups for floor 349 without thoran cheese ?

slender echo
#

@restive cloud thanks, I'll give that a try

empty pulsar
#

Oooof Check, why you gotta be like that

ornate totem
#

@pale kettle i can try, but i tryed already to chesse but it was impossible

empty pulsar
#

@ornate totem can you merc a tasi, or Lyca vs brutus?

slender echo
#

@empty pulsar thanks for the lineup advice yesterday, I cleared 23 stages using that lineup in various positions

cinder crag
#

@empty pulsar Thoran cheese is boring and I don't want to get insane by repeating the stage over and over again lol

empty pulsar
#

@ornate totem

I seem to recall
Arden
X
lyca
Shem
Nemora for coffin

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@slender echo nice man!

ornate totem
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@empty pulsar i tryed my lyca and she sucked, i have no friends with good tasi

slender echo
#

@restive cloud fawkes tries to coffin Lyca instead of the rat

ornate totem
#

@empty pulsar my shem is much weaker than belinda, because all faction gear is for her

empty pulsar
#

Gotta go for a bit, I'll see if I can find any non shem teams that work with your heroes today. Tag me if you clear :) @ornate totem

ornate totem
#

@empty pulsar ok

restive cloud
#

@slender echo try to merc a lucius then, that will cast shields and tank a vurk ulti

empty pulsar
#

@ornate totem before I forget, it may be worth trying a weaker shem for the extra sustain >Belinda. Ttyl

pale kettle
#

stuck on this for over a day now i think i tried everything

slender echo
#

@restive cloud thanks, I'll see if my friends can help out

pale kettle
#

i would love some help, im lost

restive cloud
#

@pale kettle have you tried rosa instead of nemora ? Like this
fakwes
lucius
rowan
rosa
belinda

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ideealy rosa + belinda should kill vidan before he ulties

pale kettle
#

yes i did, the problem is the vedan ultimates and i lost

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i dont understand why but he ultimates so fast

restive cloud
#

you can also try to manual and not cast lucius ulti and save it for when vidan's ulti

pale kettle
#

nobody in my team is able to ult

scarlet jewel
#

I'm at a wall here's what I got going. Everyone seems to be drying fast due to the lady who teleport to the back line.

restive cloud
#

@pale kettle make full team 121 to tank through then

empty pulsar
#

@ornate totem

Fawkes
Lucius
Rosa
Brutus
Belinda

empty pulsar
#

@ornate totem

Can also try putting nara/athalia vs fawkes instead of safiya to stop coffin

#

@scarlet jewel I would suggest looking at Paddy's pinned message in #classic-questions. Also. Put nemora instead of Isabella, you need some support.

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@pale kettle I usually see wilder trio there. Let me look

ornate totem
#

@pale kettle i guess athalia or nara can help with arden

inner shell
#

Any advice to help clear this? Thank you

restive cloud
#

i would swap around mauler top and lb bottom

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mauler extra damage vs wilder, so ogi and kaz should fall faster

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rowan in middle backrow to heal everyone

zinc stump
#

@inner shell dump some levels into Belinda and put her with Rosa front row. That will group everything on her. Since you have Bel M she should be your highest manually leveled hero. Luc will survive longer to heal if you back row him until you get him higher Ascension

empty pulsar
#

@pale kettle still looking for a good non wilder for you...

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@zinc stump got 25-53?

zinc stump
#

@empty pulsar I'm farming 22 atm but you might be able to find it by searching this channel

empty pulsar
#

@zinc stump yeah, that's what I've been doing Haha. I feel like we are seeing a lot of Ch 25 lately.

inner shell
#

@zinc stump ah she won’t die? I’ll give it a shot thanks

zinc stump
#

@inner shell when she is over leveled she tanks really well.

inner shell
#

Who should I remove for rosa? Brutus?

pale kettle
#

@empty pulsar i will try with this group, just need to borrow an Estrilda

zinc stump
#

@inner shell dont really need double carry. Since you have Rosa and Luc you can move away from saveas once you have those levels into Belinda

empty pulsar
restive cloud
#

How does that lucius not insta die at L

#

lol thats koyu teams, one in a million

inner shell
#

@zinc stump Ohhh didn’t think of that Thanks I’ll try to reset my saveas then

zinc stump
#

@inner shell you'll still need Saveas for Mauler tower when you get that open so dont fodder him just yet but Bel carry at M with even E copies of support can get you pretty far. 160 bel with 140 support walks through ch 12 and iirc my main didnt up Bel to M til ch15 (pre shop)

inner shell
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Yeah I won’t fodder him of course, also should I level her sig item then? I was saving the resources for Rowan

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Her sig still lvl 1

empty pulsar
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@inner shell tagging on what goth said, I only foddered saveas when I had one L+ to replace him with.

zinc stump
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@inner shell I'm ch22 with her sig just open so dont worry about sig until later so you can focus on getting just the right ones built like Rowan etc

inner shell
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Gotcha and what relic is best on her? I only have the eye , call and grace. I’m guessing maybe the tank one? I put the energy one on Rowan

empty pulsar
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@inner shell I run eye on her when not using saveas.

zinc stump
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@inner shell early run Bel with Grace and Rosa with call. After you get Blade you could switch to that and put grace on someone like Fawkes. I run eye on Raine.

lucid stratus
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Any idea what I can do here? Been stuck a few days now

empty pulsar
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@lucid stratus post all your heroes, please :)

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@golden knoll same, please post your heroes.

lucid stratus
golden knoll
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@empty pulsar ok w8

odd python
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@golden knoll bgkeh already gave you the right lineup, just use brutus shem wilders

empty pulsar
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@odd python thanks for chiming in :)

odd python
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nemora across from ferael for charm. thats it. youre level 283

golden knoll
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@odd python oh didnt know sorry

inner shell
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Thanks man

empty pulsar
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You can also run it without ferael and Rowan in back, put rosa across athalia

lucid stratus
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With the athalia changes Rosa won't dodge her anymore though...

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Though ukyo and Cecile do, so much bs

zinc stump
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@inner shell for future stages you may want to get some CC in there in place of Brutus. Fawkes is a good option. Nem can help if you dont have Fawkes since he has both healing and charm and you can swap him in later

empty pulsar
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@lucid stratus does rosa not survive the first hit?

lucid stratus
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Not even with full t1 and defense artifacts

golden knoll
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@odd python ty sir

empty pulsar
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Have you tried Rowan to survive the initial hit?

odd python
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did it work?

lucid stratus
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Yeah my Rowan can

empty pulsar
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So lets do
Fawkes
Shem
Rowan
Lucius
Rosa

frail whale
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Any tips on how to keep the enemy shem under control? Tried Fawkes and Athalia, both couldnt keep her busy long enough, I can barely get 1 ult out and the burst just wrecks me

empty pulsar
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Does fawkes coffin her?

frail whale
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Sadly no

empty pulsar
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Post all your heroes please :)

frail whale
floral radish
empty pulsar
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@frail whale run
Fawkes
Shem
Rowan
Lucius
Rosa

floral radish
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Please

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Help me

frail whale
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Ok, will give ita few tries and report back @empty pulsar
Thanks

lucid stratus
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Bleh also not helping that Rosa is running after Rowan

frail whale
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No luck yet @empty pulsar but I will pray for rng and keep on trying 🙂

empty pulsar
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@torn sable do you have enough exp to get shem to 161+? I'd reset Rowan and put in crystal and dump exp into nem.

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@torn sable ideally you want shem +20-+40 levels over everyone else. I'd get her to 180 if you can, and keep everyone else as low as possible for now. That should help a lot :)

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@torn sable for that level

Arden/rosa
Shem
Lyca/rowan
Lucius
Nemora

frosty elk
empty pulsar
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@frosty elk charm the saveas should help :) so nemora where eironn is

pale kettle
empty pulsar
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Awesome! 25-53 for tracking

pale kettle
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25-54 same setup, nothing changed

frosty elk
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@empty pulsar a ok

empty pulsar
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Nice @pale kettle! Glad it's working well :)

lucid stratus
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Eventually. Thanks @empty pulsar

empty pulsar
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You're welcome @lucid stratus! 23-34

lucid stratus
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New athalia is wierd, had to do shem Rowan Fawkes Lucius Rosa, with Lucius getting taken out by athalia

empty pulsar
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Yeah, will take some getting used to for sure.

slender echo
empty pulsar
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Merc a numisu or see if yours will work at E @slender echo

I would also run a Saveas through Mauler 60 at least.

Safiya
Brutus
Numisu
Warek
Khasos

torn sable
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@empty pulsar it worked... thanks

empty pulsar
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@torn sable no problem! Should push you quickly from there :)

frosty elk
slender echo
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@empty pulsar thanks, trying to get some fodder to ascend Saveas to L+ to use him. He was my early carry but I sacrificed him to Brutus once I got Shem to a decent level

empty pulsar
slender echo
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I think I have a lot of work cut out for me now, but may take me a couple of months now to make any decent progress

frosty elk
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@empty pulsar but i dont have nemora ad M

empty pulsar
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@frosty elk that's fine, mine just was used to charm vurk.

frosty elk
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@empty pulsar if you want i can Show you my Roster

empty pulsar
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@frosty elk please do. Also, pushing shem to 220 and not running both Belinda and shem should work.

Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Shem/Belinda
Fawkes should clear, but I didnt switch nem from the ferael levels haha

pale kettle
frosty elk
pliant mountain
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help 8-20 and is my team ok or is there better based on my heroes

empty pulsar
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@frosty elk. I would definitely reset either shem or Belinda. Make one lvl 220. Then run the standard lucius Rowan rosa fawkes, put nemora in if you need a charm. That's how I've avoided most of the normal walls in 20.

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@pliant mountain post a screenshot of your heroes tab please :)

frosty elk
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@empty pulsar OK

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@empty pulsar i have enov tu mayk shem tu 220 or Belinda

empty pulsar
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@frosty elk I'm only running Belinda 220>shem because my Shem is M+ still...

violet igloo
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in that case you can go to #select-language and click on the german flag @frosty elk 👍

pliant mountain
empty pulsar
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@pliant mountain I'd work on building a saveas or mirael

Carry (shem/saveas/belinda/mirael)
Kong
Rowan x
Lucius
Rosa -

make your carry the highest level you can (20-40levels over your tank).

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@surreal pivot to start with, stop making L/M heroes from A tier that you cant ascend. Looking for a team.

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@surreal pivot build saveas

Saveas
Thane
Nemora
Kong
Rosa

Should work so rosa will follow thane.

odd python
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i dont see why you think rosa following thane helps when thane ulting literally just opens up the rest of the underleveled team to die

surreal pivot
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@surreal pivot to start with, stop making L/M heroes from A tier that you cant ascend. Looking for a team.
@empty pulsar what is L/M heroes?

odd python
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@surreal pivot go read the pinned guides in #classic-questions you need general game knowledge

empty pulsar
surreal pivot
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@empty pulsar thx

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@surreal pivot build saveas

Saveas
Thane
Nemora
Kong
Rosa

Should work so rosa will follow thane.
@empty pulsar kong. It's monkey?

empty pulsar
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Yes :)

surreal pivot
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I think its better to make all from 1 fraction to have better bonus

dusky hazel
empty pulsar
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@surreal pivot 3 is plenty for most things, early you need to build teams with heroes you have. Kong, thane, rosa, will give the 3 bonus

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@dusky hazel shem @ 200

Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Fawkes if you have one

dusky hazel
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No fawkes

empty pulsar
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Can run nemora then for the charm

dusky hazel
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Okay

empty pulsar
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You should be able to get to CH 20 at your level of heroes, depending on gear.

dusky hazel
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I don't have the gear to run 4 padded wearers :(

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Also really? My Lucius gets instagibbed

surreal pivot
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@surreal pivot build saveas

Saveas
Thane
Nemora
Kong
Rosa

Should work so rosa will follow thane.
@empty pulsar Thane die first...

dusky hazel
empty pulsar
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@dusky hazel buy it from guild shop, and do the Mythic trick :)

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@dusky hazel only upgrade faction specific gear you are currently using. Dont upgrade non specific gear.

dusky hazel
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Okay, I already upgrades my shemira's chest piece though :(

empty pulsar
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@surreal pivot If you leveled saveas can put him in front of thane.

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@dusky hazel you should have plenty of damage. I think I cleared 17 and 18 with M shem @ 180

dusky hazel
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Like her ult goes off and nobody is taking much of any damage it seems. Maybe it's just that my frontliners die quickly.

empty pulsar
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Shem should be front lining :)

pale kettle
dusky hazel
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Also I was waiting for padded boots to show up in guild store to start making a fourth set

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Let me try and see what happens

outer adder
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@pale kettle oh yeah i remember now lol, ill just dm you

pale kettle
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i tried every possible position yeah would love that

dusky hazel
empty pulsar
dusky hazel
#

uh

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my lucius is not ascended and my shemira is a long way away from 220 lol

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also my crystal is level 160, so that team is significantly stronger than mine

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I'll need 25k dust just to get lucius to 181 and idk how much for shemira to 201, but I think that team is well ahead of where I'm going to be for a while

empty pulsar
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@dusky hazel mine is 200 there. A Lucius isn't needed, mine just happened to be

dusky hazel
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Ah I see. It looked like 220 when I looked. So my rosa and rowan are missing 20 levels, which I can't get until I pull a rowan copy. Because right now my Rowan doesn't live for more than two hits vs silvina

scenic verge
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Alright help for stage 8-40

empty pulsar
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@dusky hazel try giving rosa less defense than Rowan:)

scenic verge
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also tried switching out Arden for Sav/Saf

empty pulsar
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@scenic verge

Rosa
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Raine

scenic verge
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I'm almost there just need to do more damage

empty pulsar
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Push Belinda levels as high as you can

topaz aspen
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can't push much more at 120 and e+ ^^

scenic verge
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I think having two Silvina is deadly

topaz aspen
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do you have a hogan?

scenic verge
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Yeah but I swapped Hogan for Estrilda

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She is doing better in the team comp

dusky hazel
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The other shemira isn't even taking damage through her healing

scenic verge
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I was wondering about Raine... he died early when I used him last in ch 8 so I went back to Arden/Sav

topaz aspen
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have you tried swapping arden and belinda's position? or the lineup posted before?

empty pulsar
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@dusky hazel charm the shem, your damage is fine. Put call on lucius if you need to get his shield off more.

dusky hazel
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lucius is ulting twice

placid seal
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Heyy, i wanna use ukyo, gwenyth and tasi in my team. But idk good heroes to go with it since most will cancel out the boosts, any suggestions for heroes?

empty pulsar
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Then your shem should get 2 ults off, especially with rosa. Make sure call is on lucius and put him across silvina

mossy galleon
dusky hazel
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lol I can't do that. He got insta'd

empty pulsar
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@mossy galleon put Belinda front, Rowan back middle fawkes bottom.

dusky hazel
mossy galleon
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@empty pulsar even if fawk is only elite?

empty pulsar
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@mossy galleon if you have nemora charm the saveas.

Rosa
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Nemora

mossy galleon
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Nemora E too

empty pulsar
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@mossy galleon yes. With fawkes put fawkes top

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@dusky hazel charm the shem as mentioned before :)

mossy galleon
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Fawk coffins the healer

empty pulsar
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@mossy galleon that's okay, he is annoying. You can try shem to charm the saveas, that's how i usually deal with saveas/ferael stages :)

scenic verge
#

I tried swapping Belinda and Arden position and here is the damage report... they are hurting me badly

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need to do something about Silvina and Isabella

dusky hazel
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Okay I cleared it and mythic trck decided to troll me with factionless gear lol

scenic verge
#

Is Ros going to be useful to me at 100 or should I keep leveling Arden to 120?

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I want Arden's 3 root ability

odd python
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rosa’s utility comes from multiple ults for her carry + % hp based damage, but if she cant survive due to lack of stats she wont be any good

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so some stages she may still be usable, but in a stage with say a silvina, youre better off swapping to someone else

scenic verge
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Yeah problem in this battle is that Bel is only getting her ult off once, Luc doesn't get his ult off and the team is destroyed before I can do enough damage

odd python
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if youre looking for a cookie cutter comp then most likely you’ll just be shoving 5LB in anyway

scenic verge
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Silvina/Isabella/Brutus kill most of the team

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Yeah that is how I ran with it for awhile

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But now I'm running into a problem with levels

odd python
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if youve relied on mercs to push thats sorta expected

empty pulsar
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Phone is dying. Bbl

scenic verge
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I can't even get arden to L though because I don't have any copies so highest I can get him is 120 so he won't be useful until later on

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Saf isn't useful at all... I definitely prefer Sav to Saf unless that changes late game

odd python
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some stages may wall you especially with regular comps like lb. you would need some form of to cc be passing stages while being this underleveled, which only rowan provides right now (and rowan at E wont be able to get into a good position to provide the cc)

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saf early game depends on what kind of supporting crew you run with her

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the aoe on a fully charged ult is absolutely disgusting, just need to get her there

frail whale
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I got the stage with the annoying Shem done after about 100 tries and some rng luck @empty pulsar thanks for your help! 🙂

slender echo
#

Which hero is Dura's chalice of vitality good for?

empty pulsar
slender echo
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@empty pulsar sorry, and thanks!

placid seal
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Heyy, I wanna use ukyo and brutus in my team, what would be a good set-up for this. I would love to have gwyneth in it too

worthy bane
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@placid seal If I were to try and design around that I'd say don't worry about faction bonus and build very burst heavy, maybe Brutus, Ukyo, Lorsan, Gwyn, Lyca

placid seal
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Aight, I will try that. Still a bit scared about the faction boosts

dusky hazel
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w/c xD

placid seal
outer adder
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@placid seal use belinda instead of ukyo and youre also not underleveled if anything youre overleveled your units are higher than mine o.0

placid seal
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That just means Im bad at the game XD, not surprising tho lmao

outer adder
#

how long have you been playing if you dont mind me asking?

placid seal
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I have played for a few months last year, then quit and now im back

outer adder
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ah cool, just in time for the event too lol

placid seal
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Yea, im hoping i can get some better heroes and stuff out of it

outer adder
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same tbh 😄 good luck

placid seal
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You too!

outer adder
#

you could try moving shemira to the backline and using brutus as a second tank in place of nemora @torn sable

empty pulsar
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@torn sable

Nemora
Lucius
Lyca
Shem
Arden

Or

Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Nemora

pale kettle
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Pls help

empty pulsar
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@pale kettle post all your heroes please

pale kettle
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Ok

outer adder
pale kettle
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Ok tnx

faint quest
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Brooo u gotta be using a Brutus on every stage dude get rid of that Lucius for now @pale kettle

empty pulsar
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@pale kettle

Fawkes
Lucius
Nemora
Brutus
Belinda

pale kettle
#

Ok

empty pulsar
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@faint quest he doesnt have Rowan :(

pale kettle
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I do it’s my merc

empty pulsar
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@pale kettle better to try to clear it without a merc so you establish a stable team :)

faint quest
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Oh oof he has to bait the silv jump which leads her to Brutus she's the main threat

pale kettle
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@empty pulsar i actually never use my mercs

empty pulsar
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@faint quest she should jump nemora, lucius turns to heal nem, nem self heals, charms (if no bubble) etc...

faint quest
#

Does nem die though..?

pale kettle
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Yep

empty pulsar
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Bah, I was planning on her living long enough for Belinda to kill silvina..

faint quest
#

Ah ok I'd maybe try
Mirael (for bait)
Brutus
Belinda
Nemora
Fawkes try that

pale kettle
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Ok

faint quest
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Just gotta kill that silv asap

pale kettle
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Didn’t work

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Maybe nemora out Kong in

faint quest
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Or wait replace mirael for numisu make sure silv jumps to him

clever mountain
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Hi everyone, for a ~lvl 100 team of Saveas - Brutus - Tasi, which 2 of these following heroes will have the most synergy? Rowan/Khasos/Fawkes/Numisu/Ardent/Mehira

raven ermine
worthy bane
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@shadow onyx try for
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Rosaline

gray geyser
outer adder
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@gray geyser ulmus is a tank unit, so if you are using shemira as a tank you should replace him with a damage dealing unit
iif not you should switch him to front and put shemira in the back

gray geyser
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@outer adder He's first dead either way 😦

worthy bane
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@clever mountain Rowan and Khasos probably

gray geyser
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My summons have been pretty bad so I don't have too many options besides afking a while. Nothing over E+ atm

clever mountain
#

Thanks

faint quest
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@gray geyserreset ulmus and put saveas in the crystal and give saveas the best gear

outer adder
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@gray geyser yeah like jaw said if you are using shemira as a tank anyway just get rid of him in place of saveas

worthy bane
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@raven ermine maybe swap to look like this
Lyca
Brutus
Bel
Tasi
Nem

empty pulsar
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@mystic yacht I used nemora to charm vedan top

mystic yacht
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heu, hmm, this is clear, sorry

empty pulsar
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No worries :) gz on the clear

gray geyser
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I'll have to wait another 6hours for the crystal space to open again. Thanks for the suggestions @faint quest @outer adder

outer adder
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no problem if you dont feel like waiting you can click on the spot you are waiting for and complete it early for a small amount of diamonds @gray geyser

faint quest
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@gray geysernp dude. I recommend to reset gorvo and put Lyca in there as well

outer adder
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@faint quest using wu kong and shemira as tanks? 🤔

faint quest
#

Tbh lyca can be used as a tank sometimes cuz of her dodge

outer adder
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oh really? i had no idea, good to know

faint quest
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ya her dodge is insane👌

gray geyser
#

I should be able to purchase my 5th crystal spot today. I'm trying to only spend diamonds on shop dust or summons

empty pulsar
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@outer adder usually at a higher ascension tier with M/M+ gear :)

outer adder
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@gray geyser dont spend it on dust, ik it sounds good now but youll regret it later, theres plenty of other places to gest dust from

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like lab, tower, dispatch etc etc

empty pulsar
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@gray geyser diamonds on summons only. For a long time

faint quest
fluid obsidian
empty pulsar
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@faint quest stop it. So many Ch 25 lineups lately. One moment

faint quest
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Anyone got a formation?ulricry @empty pulsarsadly yours didn't work for me

empty pulsar
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Ah booo, which ones did I give you?

faint quest
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The ones with athalia and another one with an ascended hero I don't got

empty pulsar
faint quest
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I'm prob just underleveled or got the wrong heroes for that stage

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U know which artifacts they had?

empty pulsar
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@fluid obsidian

Fawkes
Lucius
Rowab
Shem
Rosa

craggy crystal
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Who should I ascend to Mythic? Lucius, Belinda or Rosaline?

empty pulsar
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@craggy crystal Belinda is the best option, unless you have the remaining 2 E+ copies

faint quest
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Belinda tbh

gray geyser
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I think the general consensus is only go from L+ to M+ due to the same fodder reasoning as E+ to L+ ?

outer adder
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@faint quest lol if lyca is dodging just stab the horse deer thing, she cant fight w/o her dorse 😄

faint quest
#

Haha true the enemies are retarded

empty pulsar
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@gray geyser no, L+clears through Ch 16. You don't go M unless you can go A. Exceptions are usually made for shem, Belinda, rowan

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@faint quest let me know if that team works for you btw.

outer adder
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and lucius ? 😄 @empty pulsar

craggy crystal
#

Is it okay to put 2 damage dealers on 1 team though? I've been told to prioritize Shemira first, so will having Shemira + Belinda be counterproductive?

empty pulsar
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@outer adder no.

outer adder
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😅

faint quest
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gwynapproved for sure

outer adder
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ohwell i only need one more dupe for A hopefully i get it before i have the fodder for mythic+

empty pulsar
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@craggy crystal you can run

Rosa
Shem
Healer(get rowan!)
Lucius
Fawkes

outer adder
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@faint quest so are you saying yes it is okay or yes its counter productive? because i was thinking of doing that aswell once i make shemira ascended

craggy crystal
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Soo, then what do I do with the Belinda people are telling me to ascend to Mythic?

faint quest
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@outer adderwhat r u referring to dude🤔

empty pulsar
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@craggy crystal your main goal is 5A, Belinda you CAN go M early with, because she can be bought and obtained easily. She also benefits the most from A.

outer adder
#

sec

empty pulsar
empty pulsar
faint quest
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@mystic yachtwhos the guy in the bottom?

outer adder
mystic yacht
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???

empty pulsar
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Charm vurk. Then farm more :P you've pushed 10+ today and you don't have a 180 crystal yet hehe

outer adder
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@empty pulsar in think you tagged me by mistake

faint quest
#

@mystic yacht
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Taxi try that

empty pulsar
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I did not @outer adder :)

outer adder
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oh im not sure why you gave me that then

faint quest
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@outer adderso actually I recommend only having Shem in there and replace Belinda for Fawkes so he can be another support to the team cuz Shem already does wonders by herself

empty pulsar
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@outer adder you mentioned the M lucius.

mystic yacht
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Anything work

outer adder
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yeah i was thinking of that formation aswell, thanks for the advice, i think ill go that route then @faint quest

empty pulsar
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@mystic yacht I posted a picture for you again :) main goal is to charm nemora. You may need that 180 crystal.

outer adder
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im gonna miss belinda, she's been in my formation since day one 😢
granted im only on day 32 now but still 😄

mystic yacht
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I have the 180

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This is an old picture

faint quest
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@outer addernp

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@mystic yacht
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

pale kettle
#

What would be a highlvl pvp Gwen arena setup

faint quest
#

Rowan
Lucius
Gwen
Fawkes
Rosaline maybe
@pale kettle

pale kettle
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No Arthur?

winter matrix
#

Ferael
Arthur
Gwyn
Rowan
Tasi @pale kettle

faint quest
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oh idek anything bout Arthur lol

worthy bane
#

Non Arthur you would use
Tasi
Lyca
Eironn
Lorsan
Gwyn

frosty axle
pale kettle
#

@worthy bane did you try Dat?

faint quest
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@frosty axle
Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Rosaline
Fawkes

worthy bane
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@pale kettle it's a proven LC comp

pale kettle
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Ok thanks

frosty axle
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@faint quest my rosa are following rowan smh

faint quest
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lol make shemiraa the strongest why is rowan getting followedrOHNOwan @frosty axle

frosty axle
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@faint quest because of his sig xD

faint quest
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Lmao can relate

frosty axle
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Cz anyone say +30 rowan is better than +30 shemira (and it's right). My shemira had faction gear t1 full max, rowan only 3 t1 full max and rowan still strongee than shemira

My shemira *1 and my rowan *2 tbh :/

faint quest
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Ya with his sig item he can be really op but you gotta be careful when it comes to balancing his power and your main damage dealers out so Rosa can still follow your main offensive hero while still letting rowan being really good

empty pulsar
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@faint quest see what I mean? So many people hitting 25 haha. @frosty axle please post all your heroes and we can try to work around Rowan SI

faint quest
#

Haha ya it's a huge f2p chapter wall

empty pulsar
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@frosty axle can you move gear around to get Shem stronger at all?

frosty axle
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@empty pulsar i've tried to change rowan gear to all mythic gear no enchant but still stronger than my shem

And if i take all rowan gear, now shemira is bit stronger than rowan (shem 851k / rowan 849k).

empty pulsar
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@frosty axle can you try it that way anyway? Haha. Sorry you're stuck like this, horrible wall to have as well as the chapter wall.

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Otherwise, I would remove rosa/rowan and try wilder combos. Gonna have to play around a lot.

teal hinge
dreamy oasis
#

Anyone got screenshot for 25-56? (Without shemira or Belinda)

fiery kite
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Any possible way I can do this stage with my current team or I’ll need to pull some up to L+ to stand a chance ?

raven ermine
dreamy oasis
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Don’t let nemora charm your Belinda

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Put nemora middle to charm ferael, Belinda bottom, lyca top

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@raven ermine

raven ermine
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ok ty

safe jacinth