#lineup-help
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Everyone dies way too quickly. Tried chucking in Brutus, and switching shim and luc but nothing works. Only time I got luc to ult was with Baden (bottom) using shadow on sav and fawkes up top
@hushed rain nemora to charm saveas is pretty good for those levels. Put nemora across from him
I will try, but I've done that yesterday and it's just not enough to beat them, Lucius dies in two spears, Shem stays at 1 hp after ¿Ogi? Throw
Don’t have nemora ):
And if shemira dies I don't have the damage to beat them
@lime quiver run lyca to get charm off sooner then. Shem should tank spears fine while Nem charms. I actually cleared that one with a shem/saveas and no Rowan or lucius on one of my alts. So much less survivability
Nemora charm's and saveas kills Ogi, but Shem is at 1hp and it's not able to ult properly even if Lucius is able to ult
I've tried nemora/tasi/Lyca but Rowan heals are just necessary
Honestly this is why saveas is a better early game carry :) if you can build 1 to L+ I'd do it. I like avoiding shem until 161+
shem being good at 161+ doesnt make shem bad prior to 161 in any way? it all depends on the kinds of support heroes you can afford to put in the stage
not being able to heal off her ult means she cant be effectively used to frontline. doesn’t change the fact that she has a reliable 5 person aoe
@odd python shem is weaker than a saveas carry at the same level. Even without the AOE.
blind leading the blind here i guess
Not against LB teams, which she has a faction advantage over.
LBs have a faction advantage over Maulers, so Shem > Saveas for LB teams
Agreed, but this isn't a LB team :)
If I had another tank I'd definitively reset Shem to 121 and full level belinda
Well you do.
Brutus
@lime quiver of course shem seems bad when youre trying to use belinda as a frontline tank on the side shem is on 
Btw, you got a 20-12 picture? Tried to find one for a friend and I dont have one. I think I ran a Talene nemora clear...but they don't have talene @winter matrix
Oh that's actually a screen I took many days ago, I was just trying formations, I've actually tried everything you guys said to me these days lol
I use Shem and Lucius as frontline, it was just a desperation move :b, I have another account in a server though, I guess ill leave this one afk for weeks and use the other one
@winter matrix I tried with him and he insta pops immunity with one spear and it honestly dies faster than shemira or Lucius
Pretty sure I just did
Fawkes
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Rosa
I might've put Rowan in Fawkes spot and put Nara in middle
Interesting, the ferael and isabelle are giving him issues. Isabelle is popping lucius, I've tried a few variations but cant clear with his heroes. I'll keep plugging away.
Need some advice, I’m stuck 13-40 and it looks like I would be able to feed sav to Brutus and get him to mythic. Will that help or should I not
Also is that the best lineup I can have
Help me please :'( This is SOOOOOO diificult
@left zephyr best thing to do is go afk until u have Shem 161+.
Also reset everyone to 141
Have you tried
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline? @mystic yacht
Probably
Isabella
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline
So when Silvina jumps on Isabella and kills her she'll go to Lucius, and he'll have shield up, and will then get energy really fast
Okay
as someone perma stuck in graveborn tower, should my next L+ upgrade be Faerel to mythic for signature, or Thoran to ascended from M?
Unless you can get Fera atleast to +15 I wouldnt ascend and save fodder for Thoran
Nope, it's.... Not good
I say always put your sacrificial mage in front of the front liner, so Brutus or Lucius behind the Isabella
With fawkes, shemira died
to be fair...y'all gonna have a tough time with everyone still at 160 too
Thanks for advice @winter matrix I’ll try that out
What do y’all suggest buying with the gladiator merits
Any suggestion?
Anyone able to offer any advice? Stuck on 9-8 now but not sure what I should be aiming for long term on my team
Open to all ideas
This stage is killing me, anyone that can help me with my line up?
stuck
Show all ur heroes
Just show them
Stuck here
My one ?
maybe try replacing belinda place with fawkes so mira cant burst her?
should work i guess if belinda could withstand grezhul minions
Help pls
@zinc cove
Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes.
Also, level Belinda to max before you put more levels in Lucius
@zinc cove also stop making heroes M if you dont have copies to go A (when you cant get copies from the shop - IE lucius) exception is Rowan.
@empty pulsar like this
No, I gave you front and back ranks 😅
rosaline
lucius
rowan
belinda
fawkes
@empty pulsar what is M and what's A sorry but i am new
I wonder that too
Mythic and Ascended. Gotta go back to work.
@atomic forge will try
@zinc cove it's the same team I gave you, just more spaces haha
xD
how about this one 😄 @empty pulsar
@atomic forge @empty pulsar thanks guys ... Worked perfectly
@lofty arch am not sure but try replacing shemira with rosaline
Guys better when i have gems to pull or buy mythic gear ?
Thanks)
worked? 😄
Yes)
@zinc cove am not that advanced in game to be able to tell that 😄
@zinc cove only buy Mythic gear with guild coins
@zinc cove but u can ask in #classic-questions
@sudden sparrow @atomic forge thanks guys i will do one pull 😅😅😅
@atomic forge @empty pulsar thanks again that line up is amazing ... I never know that blinda can play front line
I merced this m+ Khasos, but im still getting obliterated
getting rekt by those... tried many lineups but none worked.. is there a way i can complete or should i just wait till i upgrade my units?
stuck again 😅
rowan just dies instantly however his healing potions make me last till shemira is able to use her ability but still not enough
Guys have an elite summon card. On which frantion should i use it on. These are the elites i have
@odd ginkgo I would advice focus on LB (lightbearers), top supports are there and they will carry you
@tired lynx thx, and what do i do after i get wukong to 100¿
Tried a lot of setups, any ideas?
you should select a carry (Wukong?) and then make sure they stay 40 levels above the rest of the team
then you get everyone else to lv 20 below them and push carry again
any tips here for thoran cheese? trying to get him to nuke everyone but i end up left with ira and arden with 1 hp (he smacks arden once and kills him and then ira just kills me even if i'm at full health) i tried a lot of different things but i really gotta kill nemora early or else it doesnt really work out well
getting rekt by those... tried many lineups but none worked.. is there a way i can complete or should i just wait till i upgrade my units?
@pale kettle try Lorsan link
who should i be hoping he links?
@pale kettle swap Shem to the slot 3 (uppermost), give call if not yet, instead of Rosa may try Lyca/Ezizh if you have them, or Tasi
@pale kettle place him slot 3 too, should link Ira then
here's my hero pool also
then try Fawkes instead of Rosa and see if he coffins anyone
if he coffins Brutus you probably won
@idle oriole what's the problemo? falls apart too fast? can't dish out enough dmg to kill frontline
Seirus shreds everyone with his alt and I die rlly quick in general @tired lynx
@tired lynx i won lmao, fawkes did it i somehow keep forgetting about him
thanks for the help
@pale kettle \o/
@idle oriole try Rosa slot 4 (backline mid), instead of Rowan Grezh
i'm sad, lorsan link cant kill someone with it
i get pretty close to beating it though, gonna keep trying
yeah you need to deal the killing blow
the trick is to swoosh other 4 with Thoran, regen all his hp, and then walk to Ira and finish the job
i gotta find a way to bring her closer, also nemora doesnt insta die anymore since eironn isnt top, and now thoran aggros her when everyone dies and ira can just kill me
in theory if you can slot Kelthur somehow...
i can kill everyone but nemora and ira with 1 hp and nemora with full hp
i need to get nemora closer to thoran somehow
try Nara instead of Shem?
i have ye, shem has been useless i was just using as placeholder in the pic kinda
he's still closer to nemora and goes to her i guess
any help?
then how about
Lorsan
Thoran
Eironn
Rowan
Nara
see if that does anything?
can maybe swap around Thoran and Rowan
Go lucius, do i replace skreg for him?
can anyone help ? i need a good line up to beat that stage
Can anyone help me make a good Team for Wrizz and Soren?
@odd ginkgo yeah Luci better early game for heals imo, but don't food skreg
@lilac tulip Brutus slot 2 (frontline bottom), replace Skreg with Tasi
@placid egret right now you would probably go with
Shem
Rosa
Safiya
Lucius
Rowan
noooo rip, i got it to work but nemora somehow kills thoran in a 1v1????
okay thanks
lmao wut? retry until you punish her
NEMORA PLZ
Stuck here 😡 want to finish 15
@tired lynx kept retrying but still wasnt able to kill even one
@digital pollen
@empty pulsar
Ferael may still work, thoran merc, Lyca initial haste should be plenty (theory) even as L+.
Okiee dookie , thanks @empty pulsar. ima give it a try
Sorry, @digital pollen I meant to put thoran as the one that gets tossed. Forgot the layout
May need to switch shem/thoran :)
No worries glad you told before i started .
There's no way @empty pulsar
they die to fast
@digital pollen you need a Thoran merc. Yours is too low, as mentioned :)
@digital pollen with a thoran merc you could also try
Rosa
Belinda
Rowan
Thoran
Fawkes
Thoughts?
Repost 😁 stuck
Help please, how do I stop the brutus
Eironn
Brutus/Lyca
Rowan
Tasi
Arden @south pagoda
I will tru
Try*, lyca insta dies sadly, I used brutus to try and stall
Nope... doesn't work, freaking brutus refuses to die, if he dies Belinda kills the rest of the team
Eironn is your main DPS right?
Yeah
Repost. Need help
@south pagoda sorry man Idk how to help you out with that layout
.
@tall palm
Saveas
Hogan
Mirael
Grezhul
Antandra

I tried but silvina jumps to my mirael after almost oneshotting her silvina is going to my saveas so my dps'es are killed :(
Idk did i explain good but if i didnt sorry for my bad eng
Swap Saveas and Antandra places then @tall palm
Mhm lemme try
@sudden sparrow I passed it, I reset Khasos, and overleveled Eironn to 167, actually worked.
Keep your main DPS overleveled 20 or 40 levels avobe the rest
Its antandra
Hogan
Mirael
Grezhul
Saveas right?
Yeah
Any help ?
Stuck ... Repost
Any ideas how can i defeat it?
@zinc cove I strongly advise you to keep levelupping your five main heroes and not to ascend heroes as long as you have enough copies to make at least l+
@zinc cove
Charm ferael
@austere moth
Belinda
Rowan
Fawkes
Lucius
Rosa
iirc
@strong raptor get a merc tasi
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus/lucius
Arden/nem
@empty pulsar I've got no Tasi
@strong raptor I know, I said to get a merc tasi...
this if for a friend hes pretty stuck any suggestion? can he thoran tho. he has kelthur . im thoran noob :/
@empty pulsar same order in the pic i should choose my line up ?
Oh sorry I don't understand you correctly. @empty pulsar
@strong raptor borrow tasi from a friend
first picture heroes are not his just second. first i got from internet
this if for a friend hes pretty stuck any suggestion? can he thoran tho. he has kelthur . im thoran noob :/
@covert condor
@covert condor what stage is that?
24 - 60
I think I got a few screens, give me a moment
i dont play brutus or thoran im not sure what comp to do with his weird heroes
@empty pulsar just make sure you charm farael, rest doesnt matter
Rowan
Shem/bel
Lucius
Rosa
Fawkes(grace)or Tasi. Let me find some others
@covert condor your friend wasted a lot of fodder haha. I'll see if I can find a thoran cheese
What formation should I leave in the arena? Not sure who's good for pvp
my friend bought fawkes 5 star from shop yeah. and hes way past his lvl for that stage xD
you can go for stall comp with, lucius rowan wilders maybe add a rosaline
I am sticky stuck
@covert condor one more to build off of
thanks if anything ill give him a ferael on reset
Sounds like a plan
@pulsar quarry Arden instead of talene for some cc
Yeha right now everything is getting absolutely demolished, very quickly
probably because you need more CC and defense
Yeah the last few levels I brute forced through double shemira ult
@strange sparrow Brutus, Lucius, Shemira/Belinda, Rowan, and Fawkes/Tasi is a pretty well balanced team
Okay thanks, in that order? and no rosa? I could go full lb
that would work too, and no doesn't have to be in order. rosa, ideally , should be following the DPS
@empty pulsar im still getting one shoted :/
on 24 60? arden should work to root athalia
@empty pulsar well my athalia is legendery so she will die insta
Yes it's fine @novel zealot. For the stage try
Shemira
Wukong
Rowan
Rosa
Lucius @novel zealot
I suppose Arden wouldn't help much early. Early stages are all about power since most skills are still locked. Try
Baden
Hogan
Antandra
Mirael
Saveas.
Mirael will probably die she is there to bait mostly. And your team rather lacking in sustenance and if I remember it correctly saveas still needs some healer early so he won't kill himself @tall palm
But i dont have healer thats the problem xD thanks for tip i will try out.
I cant edit photos so repost. 5-12
Graveborn tower lvl 160
@pale kettle what do you mean? Besides not ascend heroes to legendary before having four copies 😛
@crisp thorn my only thought is putting your main dps bottom back since whatever eironn sucks up will probably be what gets charmed by the bottom nemora?
@tall palm try swapping your two front-liners
Tried that already no luck think I just need more levels or ascending
Or a good friend mercenary
@crisp thorn i have a screenshot gimme a sec to find it
@odd python ty
@crisp thorn
shem
thoran
nara
ferael
grez
dont worry about thoran being L+, it’ll be fine for this stage. grez not having sig at all is a bigger problem most likely, but at lv 290 you should be able to clear. artifacts id recommend: shem blade, thoran drape, nara call, ferael eye, grez chalice
Fucked them up first try, thanks so much
haha glad it helped 
Tips?
even with the eironn merc i cant really do anything
who gets tainted by thoran
actually @pale kettle go dms lol i dont want to deal with slow mode 
This may be the wrong channel, but is there a guide for which lineups to use for twisted realm?
what formation can i try on this?
@bright sigil maybe try arden in the bottom corner.
Tasi
-- lyca
Nemora
--eironn
Arden
You can try to kill the bottom enemy first too. In this case you put lyca in the bottom position
@ebon loom you can check the leaderboard section on the twisted realm boss page. If you click on a name, you can see their team comps. I mostly use them as well
Doesnt work @restive mauve
@novel zealot you could swap rosa for Arden. Maybe a rearrangement helps too. Put rowan in center back and shemira on top
@bright sigil
tasi
gorvo
nemora
eironn
lyca
frankly you just lack a dps on your wilders lol if eironn is making no progress get lyca to mythic for her sig to boost phys dmg for the team
yeah ill be honest i dont really know how to change it up for this one. you can likely make it through other stages due to a bit of rng with dodge, but when brutus neuters that with his roar it really shows that your team lacks the dps to secure the kills before they are guaranteed to die
@restive mauve Thanks for the advice, but that doesn't help me plan my mercenaries for the week.
Who would I need as dps? @odd python
eironn is the most viable one for wilder tower. i made pretty far with eironn at E but only because my other wilders are decently ascended to compensate, and i use lyca and tasi as dps (tasi steals attack from banished target). if you have the option, get eironn up, but note that he does benefit a lot from lyca’s +20
in the short term if you really want to beat this stage merc an eironn lol
alright, thanks!
Soren team help please 🙂
anyone have some advice for this level?
@flat gyro I add a little extra healing for Soren, Rowan and Lucius with shem belinda Rosa
Talene will probably do better than Lucius/Rowan maybe? Add dmg?
@river sorrel shemira bottom instead of top and use Arden instead of fawkes
should i be putting saveas in and if yes who do i swap
23-10
@novel zealot no it’s shemira or saveas
would saveas be better since he is e+
Get rid of wukong and use saveas back line and Lucius where wukong is
It won’t be hard to get a second shemira copy so unless you think saveas will make it to L+ soon I would just level shemira @novel zealot
kk
Then work on getting supports. If you need to you can reset shemira and level saveas instead if you’re stuck
Once shemira is overleveled I would run shem Lucius front and Arden Rowan Rosa back @novel zealot
@tidal solar I don’t like putting dps against Brutus I would flip your setup
You have faction adv over Brutus with Lucius too
I would also try replacing Belinda with Rosa or even putting talene in front of Brutus and Lucius behind her
o ok
Who do you guys recommend I buy?
Can anyone help me put together a team for ice shemira from what I have here?
@candid turtle shemira till you have 8 copies
@pine bone stop sending heroes legendary without four copies also Brutus Lucius Shem Belinda Rosaline but you might not have enough healing
This account was my first one when I didn’t know what I was doing. I dropped it for awhile and went to another server but came back to try and fix it cuz I want it back lol. I will try that team and see how it goes
im using this atm, would this be able to carry me through the early game? without investing into saveas and shemira?
belinda
wukong
rowan
lucius
rosa
I would reset wukong and put it all into saveas
oh really
You won’t be getting more copies of wukong probably and he won’t be able to carry for long
Rosa Lucius front, saveas Rowan Belinda back
Or saveas front depending on what you’re up against
okay thank you ill try that
Keep sav 20-40 levels above your team it’ll take you to chapter 12 at least
And fawkes/Arden/tasi/lyca all viable instead of Belinda when you get them
gotcha, i got super lucky with rowan pulls so i just L+'d him thats still ok?
Yeah it’s fine since you got four copies
The problem is goin L before having four copies so you’re good
yeah people said not to L+ until you are sure you can reach it so
edit: i mean not to L, without being able to reach L+
kk ty gonna try the saveas now
I would have Arden and lyca in crystal
ah ok
Would appreciate help on either of these
C16 If Arden or nemora fast enough.
Shem - Rosa - Arden/nemora - rowan Lucius.
Either charm or root estrilda and preferably with kaz and silvina as well
C18 replace fawkes with Arden but swap gear and stuff so rowan is the bait. And swap Talene and Belinda post.
Talene belinda Arden rowan Luci.
Control Shem, grezhul and silvina if possible @jovial gate
@still oar cleared 16 already but will try for 18 tomorrow thanks
Can’t deal with vedans ult. wrecks everyone even with Lucius shield
Try
Twins
Shemira
Tasi
Rosa
Lucius @hushed rain
I’ve tried that before, twins get 1 shot even with my best gear. Haven’t found any rotations where twins live to ult
If I use fawkes to trap enemy top then twins die with like 1hp before casting ult
Then try it with wu
Wtf I never thought wus slow would help so much... thanks @still oar
Seems my first post was stopped.
And th last two panels. Any suggestions for wrizz
Try Talene belinda rosa rowan lucius @untold rivet
Ok. Talene Belinda front row, @still oar
Yes
This happened all 5 times. Also was your intention for rosa tip follow talene? @still oar
Yes so she can heal more.
Ah so that's not enough let's up the def and use bait.
Talene Shem nemora baden lucius .
Can you merc good, I mean really good Rosa @untold rivet?
I haven't looked for merc in a long time. No guarantee I can find one on short notice
Hold let me check I think I have mythic her
you have poison relic, as long as you aren't getting 1 hit you'll be fine on damage
The four that died in those ruins are dead the same turn
try moving gear around but fundue's comp is probably close
maybe drop baden for ezizh and just let him die for the def bonus from hypo
This was the second team's runs.
is your lucius shielding and your nemora overhealing right before it goes out?
suggestions?
I don't think they are getting a chance
do you have an excess of dura's tears? can just rip one
Here is a shot from the sub you suggested
that's with neither nemora or lucius ulting?
@pale kettle who does fawkes coffin? probably need to nemora charm the arden/sav
This run. There was two lucius and 3 nemora,
Any change I should make to wrizz team? Shemira, saveas, rosa, belinda & lucius currently
Any luck @still oar ?
@rotund glade unfortunately lyca
@stuck chasm can try twins over saveas, dunno if she'll live long enough. @untold rivet you can try finding a +20 SI fawkes or something
Any suggestions?
@pure vault does hendrik die instantly?
@pure vault does arden have double root at 120? i dont see any reason to have shemira in at your level
@pale kettle yea one crit from the enemy Sav and he’s done 💀. @rotund glade yes Arden has double root. Are you suggesting to sub him in for Shem?
@pure vault sub hendrik to brutus
I would, can't imagine she's doing anything for your win condition
Add my alt mezoth with 22m power @untold rivet. Just ascended her.
@rotund glade understand. Was thinking the silence/aoe helps. @pale kettle tried that and ain’t having luck. Appreciate that suggestion though!
Ok, so how do I go about getting it
Cqis, was your nemora running chalice in those attempts?
Mezoth with the fancy frame?
I will look Kantris - She is running Drape as the last time I looked for help, they told me that was best for her based on my main team!
@pure vault does shemira manage to ult?
@pale kettle yea sometimes depending upon the RNG/placement, but the ult doesn’t last long as she dies soon after 😦
Just sent Fundue!
I did ask the one you said to ask, right?
And that one was Talene, Belinda, Rosaline and who else?
Try this comp. Talene Rosa nemora lucius baden first.
If still not enough try manual nemora's ult. If you think can do without baden try ezzih or rowan again.
Rosa is your main dps along with Talene @untold rivet
I did your original lineup which included Talene, Belinda, Rosaline, Rowan and Lucius, that worked like a charm!
and I got 10K Challenge Tokens, Woohoo!
Ah awesome 👍
Unfortunately for me, that Talene leaves me soon. And my Talene isn't strong yet
Need help please
Please help no flame >~< also dm me I need a lot of help 😅
Try
Lucius
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Eironn @mossy galleon
Any help for graveborn 140?? The other line-ups on my list are similar but I'm not even able to get close. Nara doesn't really seem to work against Tasi either.
Lyca eironn Nemora tasi fawkes @ivory breach. charm safiya and pull ,4 and 5 in. Might need to manual fawkes @ivory breach
ok gonna try it out tyvm
Try thoran grezhul oden ferael Shem.
Call on Shem or grezhul and blade on ferael @smoky delta
Thanks I'll give it a go. Just borrowed an Ascended Thoran so maybe that'll make a difference.
Without support try izold instead of Belinda for early. And keep him overleveled. He can solo stages of overleveled early @frail holly
ok i managed to do it like this 25-44 ty all
still stuck... any ideas? 
Any help here, i m really stuck for 2 days
@hexed depot i recommend you read the quick start guide pinned in #classic-questions . As for your team, put Shemira level 130 and others 90.
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Wukong
Tasi
@echo orbit stop making so many heroes to legendary keep your fodder instead and only ascend once you can get them to L+. Skriath is seldom used. When looking at your heroes it seems you wanted to focus LB. So I would try :
Nemora
Lucius
Belinda
Brutus/Shemira
Rosa
Nemora needs to charm ennemy Arden
ok, thank
Thank you, didn't tried to put shemira in front
@mystic yacht I recommend you read the 1 page guide pinned in #classic-questions you make far too many heroes to legendary :) but you're on the right track. I would keep focusing Wilder heroes
Need a main lineup
@violet igloo thank you very much, I went with your team
@pale kettle put Mirael level 150 and other heroes level 110.
Lyca/Arden
Lucius
Mirael
Wukong
Rosa
@violet igloo i should focus on wilders too?
@violet igloo Thank you!
can anyone help me too pls? if okey i will send ss
@hexed depot well it's a really strong choice if you can get lyca Tasi Nemora you're set up for all the mid game. Requires less ressources than LB route, so definitely the best option imho
Just keep buying Shemira in lab store
@tall palm yes post your screenshot I'll have a look
5-24
@tall palm i recommend you read the 1 page guide pinned in #classic-questions it'll help you a lot of you haven't done so already
I did. Is there something wrong that i did
SO @violet igloo what I should do to complete this level ?
As for your team comp, Put Mirael level 90 and other heroes lvl 50. You're using 2 DPS but you only need one. I suggest using Mirael because she's E+. If Saveas was E+ or Legendary, use him. Both are good.
Lyca
Hogan
Mirael
Ogi
Arden
This comp will change in the following days because you'll open more heroes
Okey thanks
@mystic yacht get more levels, and try this comp.
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus/Lucius
Tasi/Arden
Try switching positions around
Hi friends. I'm looking for some help in creating a Soren destroying team. Any help?
Rosa
Belinda
Rowan / Lorsan
Lucius
Talene / Baden
@tall palm you should have wukong too
Pls send help even Thoran can’t survive carebear
everybody said me to get shemira in lab store first
Help?
@tall palm he means the free wukong from the share event.
Last stage and it's a vedan too 😭😭😭😭.. I f hate him.. Any ideas? Ran outta ideas to defeat a boss vedan with my comp
@modern bison will need some rng for this..
i recommend
lyca
tasi
mehira
rowan
nemora
or maybe slot in lucius.. call on mehira.. and restart everytime numisu puts a totem behind mehira.. you can also try safiya in place of nemora.. needs some good dodging and hopefully mehira+tasi lock down.
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@pale kettle post here next time
give me a sec
@modern bison its literally the easiest thoran stage no joke all you need to do is get warek to throw thoran in between numisu and sav. rowan for energy. the other 3 heroes dont matter
can anyone help please? that golus just doesnt wanna die.
i.e. rowan
thoran
doesntmatter
doesntmatter
doesntmatter
My 3* Grez just melts, every 10 or so pulls I can kill the Brutus but the golas kills me
I know my baden is Hella weak but I can't ascend him
@violet igloocan u help? 
@mossy galleon id try
tasi
lucius
rowan
shem
rosaline/eironn
Rowan doesn’t get killed and warek isn’t throwing thoran to the back @odd python :(
rowan didnt die in my replay either he sorta just sits in the back corner
CaAaAn AnYoNe HeLp 
@calm basalt try:
baden
grez
nara
thoran
shem
So how do I do it?
Lyca
Hogan
Mirael
Ogi
Arden should i change one of these with wukong?
Yeah I think the main problem is thoran isn’t getting thrown to the back and if he does he dies instantly 
Ogi if you wanna keep the faction bonus @tall palm
@pale kettle
i would try repositioning a little
rowan
lucius
fawkes
brutus
shem
call on brutus.. to ult and burst athalia, thane before they get shielded or ult.. rowan top side so brutus doesnt eat energy potions.. you can try gwyn if she's strong enough for you.. but its an rng heavy stage..
@modern bison what artifact on thoran?
if you arent already using call, try call, if not try chalice
@lilac tulip be patient, we are looking case by case from top down.. it takes time to look through each case so that we can give a good.formation not a nonsense one just to say we helped.. am looking at your case now
I will try thank you very much
oh i thought it got jumped becuz it did 
@lilac tulip i also did just beat 10-19 on my alt
but completely different heroes that you dont have. i would get rid of brutus, move talene up to where brutus is, put tasi in front, and add nara across from saveas:
belinda
talene
shem
tasi
nara****
Oh that's actually a good one that i didnt think of 
nara disables saveas due to his high dmg, if saveas can one shot tasi before nara hooks him swap tasi and talene again. mirael would be preferable to belinda in this stage to add fire shield but looks like you dont have her
Eironn destroys my team in 5 seconds!
@lilac tulip if that doesn't work out try
belinda
talene
rosaline/gwyn
brutus
tasi
@ornate totem put silvina in front of eironn. youre welcome lmao
its actually the #1 strategy for that stage
i tried that one yesterday it almost worked but belinda loses the 1v1 vs isabella @novel adder
idk is it wrong channel but, can i put wukong as frontline?
@odd python i have no silvina I feed all of them to make ferael mythic
@ornate totem not even a blue one? she works fine at blue cos all she needs to do is jump to flip eironn around
your other mistake is putting ferael across from nemora. get rid of kelthur and put ferael there, then put baden back middle:
shem
thoran
baden
silvina
ferael
@odd python no not even blue
wait till you get a blue silvina then
@odd python i also don't understand how turning eironn will help he will just kill silvina and turn around again?
thanks for the help but i'll prob try with wilder + mehira chain cc cuz none of the attempts was even close to touching any mobs except for saveas and ankhira 
@ornate totem idrk how to explain without being able to show a video but here is a clear at 220 crystal before elder tree
theres no need to overthink this stage lol
can i use wukong as frontliner?
@odd python my shem is to weak even ferael does more damage or thoran
how can your shem be too weak when you have a +20 minimum at lv 246
what artifact are you using?
@odd python horn
give her blade and wait for silvina, the other thing silvina does is she jumps to arden and stuns him
@odd python but my all t1 one gear is LB
Anyone can help me?
21-53
@tall palm depends on the stage.. but yes.
@ornate totem use this training
@peak holly try
fawkes/tasi
shem
lyca
brutus/lucius
nemora
you need nemora to charm the ferael
@modern bison my guess is that your rowan 30 makes thoran ult too fast.. remove call.. if he ults before warek throws him over he wont be in position. mess a bit with the energy.. if he doesnt get to ult without call, put lyca in.. or use call and dont use rowan..
Thoran ohko tactics need a bit of timing manipulation..
^ good point on the above. i dont auto, i manual ults so regardless of when thoran hits full energy i can get the timing i want, but yeah play with lyca and ferael cos they can help to alter the timing of enemies
thog the team u suggestion hasnt really been working, my shem dies too fast, nara pulls her in
oh that team setup is more for thoran to kill everyone lmao
most of the replays ive seen of that one had thoran ulting like 5 times to clear, same idea for 153 which will be soon
you can auto ult thoran until his revive, when he revives wait on manual until the fear is just about to wear off then ult again
call on him?
call yes
if it doesnt work because thoran takes too much dmg from enemies switch to chalice and give it a few goes otherwise we can try and work out another comp
i just got very close, trying with chalice
give it a few goes because i think that stage and 153 are two where thoran can work really well
so the nara pulls him in which kinda ruins the bomb, and then he dies mid 2nd ult
almost every time
hmm
try swapping in 2 lv1s at the top 2 spots (front and backline)
that should get the enemies to group around thoran faster (leave nara back mid as we need her to pull sav)
i had it almost perfect, then the nara pulled him out
is nara killing shem too fast?
try giving shem chalice if thoran has call or drape if thoran has chalice
i think the problem is nara not grouping up
i think what you need to work out is which artifact lets you be mid ult when nara would normally go for a pull, cos then she should walk up to thoran
or manual ult to change the timing
i have been manual
you will need like 3-4 ults but they shouldnt have the damage to kill thoran while hes ulting and he recovers hp off each ult
so i got it to do what you said, but thoran just hits them like a wet noodle
maybe half their health
you may need several ults and the thing is they shouldnt have the dmg to kill thoran while hes ulting, and he recovers hp off each ult he hits
so you can get away with it in this stage (normally for brutus you would need +30 to deal with immunity)
Can someone suggest a formation
i think i might have to wait for some more crystal levels
Any tips to improve on my line-up? I'm at chapter 8-16
ill see if i have an ss of my 148 or else ill see if its still there in game. been a while since i had to look back haha
yea man i appreciate the help
but i suppose i can play to the true nature of the game and afk for some rewards
ah dont have an ss and my replay isnt there anymore but in the meantime you could try
shem blade
thoran chalice/call
ferael eye
nara merc
grez drape/chalice
Do i want good gear on thoran
yes because this lineup has him as a regular tank
Ok
normally youd want thoran to be pulled by nara or thrown back by warek (when they have displacement heroes, not specifically this stage) but here i think with brutus sav and ankhira around you need him up top to buy time for shem and ferael to put dmg (grez would die up there) so we let grez cop the hook. alternatively you can swap grez and nara if your merc nara is faster than the enemy nara
from previous formations and attempts, the merc nara does pull enemy nara
give that a shot then
this has to be one of the most frustrating stages ive come across so far
i think with your 30 on shem you should have the stats to clear, esp if you invested into sorc branch in the tree
uh yezzir! you are a genius
dw it gets worse
you do have good ascensions just up a few sigs and you’ll be fine. building your own nara will give you more options
oh gz! glad it worked
the power of the try again button
with ferael around thats bound to happen, the positioning of everyone else is really just to give you the best chance outside of rng’ing the interrupts and buying time for shem to ult
I wish the game counted how many times youve attempted a stage
well man, i was able to finish off the GB climb for today, once again your help is appreciated
np 
now if only the mauler tower was as easy as the lb/gb
Just impossible
Anyone have any advice for this level? Lucius died instantly so I subbed in Brutus and then Estreldia just combos my Shemira :/
help pls
What should my lineup be? And where should Belinda go into it?
For me, try : hogan, wukong, saveas, rosaline and shemira
Any help on 23-10? Been stuck here for two weeks now I’m trying winning combo but haven’t had any luck
shem grezhul athalia rowan fawkes? @surreal flume
shemira dura blade grez blood chalice athalia dura eye rowan call fawkes conviction
Any tips for passing this?
@covert condor didn’t work unfortunately.. enemy serius just kills my team instantly
Help, (pls ping me)
any tips for 25-10? 
Guys do i get a a sec shemira and accend or get a nemora first? Guide says get nemora. Just wanted to make sure and how do i accend to mystic ( copy + what food)
Lol had 10 scrolls.
I really need some help on who to use to get past 7-36
I have tried multiple heroes and keep dying to the enemy team
I also tried Luc, Hogan, Bel, Rowan, Sav
and Luc, Hogan, Bel, Solise, Shem
I only have 3 E+ champions which is Belinda, Hogan, and Arden
I'm stuck...
Stuck for so long 😭.. 10-40
Far as I know you over level your carry first to make the best progress I think
I am still new but that has helped me so far
Who is that suggestion to?
@scenic verge your lucius is way underleveled you should reset it
For the Jade guy
but I can't... I can only get him to 81 and same with Saveas, Ros, Solise,
reset hogan and put that expeirence into lucius instead
so basically make lucius 101 and hogan 81
100?
@scenic verge keep leveling up is your anwser and what joi said. afk will get you over eventually .
Any idea? Stuck for like a week
I don't level a hero until I know I can get the next ability so I do 41, 61, 81, 101, 121, etc
you need to put lwgandary heroes on crystal till they reach L+ or 160 then feed them to your ascended units
you asked for advice, theres your advice 🤷
I mean you don’t only level heroes for the abilities, it’s the stats as well bro
Hmm I didn't think of the stats, I was going off the abilities at each level
@scenic verge theres no point to that, every level helps
The longer your Lucius survives the more survivability for your team is because of his shield
So higher stats means happier carries amiright
@odd ginkgo Nemora is recommended in case you haven’t pulled a useful healer but you have Lucius si prioritize Shemira for your lab purchases. Note that there are 2 free Shem (campaign chapter 14 or 15 completions and PoT Divine Realm)
I thought Shem would be good about now, it was shown in the winning formation and Shem was 81... and I got an 81 Shem and Shem gets killed first in the team, how does that happen?
I am not too sure about that I heard she was good at around level 100+, but at 81 she’s very squishy against teams that are like level 100+ I reckon
sav is carry till 160 then shemora 161-240
I'll reset Hogan, level Luc up to 101 and keep Hogan at 81 and then level up the other heroes to about 90-100
Last stage i pop rosa after 50 tries but not enough damage to finish couple of times 🙂 any ideas? Help
Why not level both tanks to 100?
@inland temple yeah just put rosa front and lucius on her back, remove brutus
Or eventually level everyone else to 100 and keep Belinda like 20 levels ahead
Any help?
@nocturne furnace maybe you can try with lucius and not brutus , try like shem rosa, fawk rowan lucius, use call on lucius
I almost got it but Belinda went down before I could kill all of them
@scenic verge remove saveas and put rowan middle
is that for more healing?
its for surviving longer, and rowan is the best support, and full lb team is pro
that was the winning combo
thanks @brave oriole I've been using Sav more than Rowan and I use Rowan in guild fights
keep him always on your battles
It worked @brave oriole thx
np@nocturne furnace
so does sav get used after like 120+?
Rowan can carry a team to about ch 13?
well, hes support, but you need a dps carry. keep buying shemira from lab shop
yeah, last time I used rosa as fodder and I paid for that mistake
bad 😦 check out some guides, from the guides section about heroes , to not lose any ahain
yeah I think I heard I need to buy 7 copies of shemira
but I haven't even got a second copy yet
there will be 2 from rewards too, so keep buying her always when you can
@mossy galleon stop making L ascended heroes, it's a waste of fodder, you could easily have made Belinda M and nuke every stage, I would use Arden instead of Cecilia and wait for the rng so he can root Isabella and vedan
can anyone help me with my hero line up? if so can e chat one on one? if so thank you ^*^
I can help, but it depends of your current stage, if you're pre chapter 12 I can help, if not you can find someone more experienced
i'm on chapter 14
I need help pls :(
@hollow blade Put Saveas instead of Lyca
And try different positions for your Shem, maybe put her in Talenes place
@hollow blade you need to use Rosa to get silvina on her, replace lyca with Rosa
Formation advice, moving forward?
@outer adder you should not invest in Belinda for now, up lucius rowan Rosa , and shemira as carry. fawk can be the 5th most of times
I don't have rosie or fawkes
you will, that's why to keep resources.. and not invest in Belinda for now
what is a good arena line up? if anyone can help pleas privet chat me
Help me please :)
Anyone help me out with this one
i'm close to beating 14-39 but can't pass it any help?
Your bottom frontline should be tankier to make sure your Sav kill the opposite. Also make sure Tasi can land her slumber that's gonna carry you I guess
🤷♀️
sorry i put it in wrong chat, ment to put in quetions DX
i need help i have error 58
hey @chilly turret i mesiged you with some hep, sorry if i spamed you DX
Error 376 please help :(
dont ignore me
i did the thing where you turn them into recources
It's fine @surreal kayak. Commons are supposed to be turned into hero tokens. You can buy elite soulstones with 18k hero tokens in barrack.
They're purple coins. Can see them in the top left corner inside the barracks tab in the store.
i have 200
Thoran cheese not working why not
Any suggestion?
Any suggestions?
Currently stuck in chapter 7 my usual lineup is wukong, Lucius, nemora, Tasi, saevas, can anyone help me?
I've been running Shem/Luci/Rosa/Rowan/Beli for my Wrizz team, should I make any changes? I keep hearing good things about Mehira, Twins, and Baden
@ebon loomgo for twins instead of lucius
help stuck on 6-4 kaz dodge everything i also have golus angelo
How the heck am I supposed to beat Mauler tower floor 60? xD
Good khasos position 4 rest is rng @river musk
Try rowan position I and wukong 2. You can only pray since you need accuracy against her unless your dps is mage @pliant mountain
@river musk put brutus position 1 with duras call and eyes on khasos at position 4 and help the rng helps out
brutus has this roar ability that decreases enemy pgyiscal defense
Hmm, I can try, my Brutus is fine but my Khasos is still E+ sadly
I'll see if I can get a Khasos mercenary
In that case you will need bigger rng using vurk's poison and brutus. Really need timing.
If you can't merc I have A +10 you can merc
That'd actually be really nice
Add me mezoth with Halloween frame @river musk
Any suggestions?
@still oar same user as here on discord, sent request
Try
Rosa/Shem
Shem/rosa
Rowan
Talene
Lucius/nemora @amber jay
Accepted @river musk. Waiting for request 😊
So i'm on the twin maulers, 5-20, and I don't know if my formation sucks or if i'm just low level. I've got 2 61's, a 57 and 2 53's.
@still oar wow thank you so much, your Khasos butchered them in seconds xD
My current formation is
Ira
Lucius
Mehira
Silvina
Elijah and Lailah.
Screenshot incoming,
Thanks @brave oriole, that helped even with the twins dying after 50 seconds
I'm not sure if my levels are just low. I was having a p ez time of things but this level really kicks me hard. Haha. I've been trying to up my equipment and stuff, but I don't have the XP and equipment to do any further.
My formation might also just be really bad. Not sure if I shouldn't replace Silvina for now because she just poofs to the back which leaves twins exposed.
Still didn’t work
This probably your first challenging stage. I think you can still manage it..can you resonate gorvo. The enemies have good dps so stalling until your mehira and twins can ult might do the trick. If can't try
Ira
Twins
Mehira
Silvina
Lucius @cold shoal
Hmmm alright i'll give it a shot. I think I can resonate Gorvo.
Lucius and talene died too early
Oh no I can't, because I just casually tossed another person into it.
I don’t have blade yet
Oh wow Miffed that formation suggestion worked like a charm.
I see .Talene dying is fine. Let's try another.
What if Nemora instead of lucius and start the fight by charming grezhul. Put boot on her so he can charm first. If grezhul didn't get charm restart the fight.
Eye Shem. Call Rosa @amber jay
Ok
It didn’t go well, the main enemy is vegan because he clears everyone except shemira when he turns into bats
So you ca bring it down to Shem v vedan. That's good 1v1 vedan is a lil bit rng. Try call on Shem. If you can 1v1 then try manual it so you ult when vedan isn't bat @amber jay
Nemora to charm Warek or Estrilda and get one of them off your ass momentarily @pale kettle
Help with a wrizz/soren team?
Currently running:
Sav
Lucius
Belinda
Wukong
Estrilda
I just got rosaline this morning though, and I thought she might be good for this sort of build? Suggestions?
Up front saveas instead. And try Rosa instead estrilda.
Saveas lucius Rosa wukong Belinda/estrilda.
Soren
Saveas Lucius Rosa wukong numisu @candid turtle
Will try it out! Thanks!
No necessarily @maiden helm. Think your fine using her as carry for now of you change your mind you can use her as fodder to get the resources back
Do I just need to wait for XP? I'm hard stuck at 6-16
Try
Shem
Lucius
Lyca
Luci
Ulmus @maiden helm
Who is Luci?
Ah my bad I mean Wu kong
ok!
@still oar I'm still getting obliterated. Is Ulmus good? I've been told he's bad pre 141
I thought he can root and stall and add damage a little.
Can lucius ult before dying?
@maiden helm?
@still oar Yeah! I don't think I have enough damage. Only 1 enemy dies by the time I'm dead.
Actually 2 to 3 people die b4 Lucius ults
Try
Rowan
Shem
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi.
Charm Arden so he roots kaz or
Arden
Shem
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi/nemora
Root kaz and Arden and charm ogi @magic bluff
Also should I be power leveling Shemira or leveling everyone equally?
I see. Let's try
Shem
Wukong
Nemora
Lyca
Lucius.
Do you have rowan or Rosa down there that can be resonated?
I would like to try oden but idk how good is he at low level @maiden helm
Power leveling. Dominating field qhit carry is better
No 😦 I don't have a Rowan or Rosaline. I'll try Oden in 20 hours when the Crystal frees up!
I'm still getting annihilated @still oar. I think my only option is to just sit and wait for XP
Ik I'm still in early game but I keep getting wiped so I really need help building a team
@still oar thank you it worked
Struggling to beat this stage any help would be great
Let's try flank it from bottom.
Lucius
Hendricks
Rosa
Lyca
Belinda/wukong @fiery kite
@still oar I think I'm just too underleveled. Thank you so much for trying to help me tho!
I'm stuck again help please
Resonate Arden and ogi @teal iron. Maybe
Belinda
Gorvo
Arden
Wukong
Nemora
That team is heavy on cc with the help of rng could be good
Ah I am sorry to hear that. Early on it's more boaut level since not all skills are unlocked @maiden helm..and yes you re pretty good since you fight a team that almost 2x yours
@still oar what's cc
Crowd Control
Ah ok
Nemora
Lyca
Rowan/tasi
Shem
Tasi/rowan @magic bluff
@still oar got killed before I could even use an ultimate with that team... Lyca dies before she even has a quarter of her bar full!! Almost a single hit kills her
Don't have good boots on her?
Expecting.dodge and faction advantage can help. Let's see
Holy crap this is working out much better thanks @still oar
Rosa
Hendricks
Lyca
Hogan
Lucius
Maybe
Finally done it!!! God that Vedan is stupidly annoying with his dodge and constant leaching and hiding in his bats
how do i beat this
Need sum help
Anyone help here
@calm basalt the main threat is shemira and probably the most efficient way of killing them is with khasos, however I would merc a khasos with their signature item so you can rng the throws to kill shem asap. as for the remainder of the lineup, you just want to buy time for khasos, so we can set it up to delay silvina and keep all the others concentrated at the bottom
run smth like
khasos merc
brutus
safiya
skreg
numisu (no gear)
running numisu with no gear is so silvina is baited to jumping on him, if she jumps on safiya we lose the team aura and that helps to neuter some of silv's damage, and skreg a solid frontliner who will have cc immunity to deal with ferael. brutus guarantees that shem will target him over khasos in that position
word. i really regret not putting more resources into maulers man
its understandable since their uses may seem more niche for regular play. for the earlier part of the tower khasos with sig appears to carry pretty hard due to the ability to rng multiple throws for quick kills, but going forward safiya/vurk/skreg seem to pop up more. i would consider putting numisu in too due to the haste buff he provides (as well as sustain)
in the near future if you get the L+ fodder* i would recommend feeding something to saf just to get her sig unlocked, but after that you can stick to getting heroes who you have copies for A as usual. it works well with the khasos life leech too as the battle goes on
what artifacts would you recommend for this battle
merc khasos with eye and chalice on skreg, everything else probably wont matter once khasos kills top 2
every merc i get has no gear/artifact
yeah thats sort of an issue when people are too lazy/dont know about equipping artifacts before mercing sadly. i'd help if i could but i have no investment in khasos whatsoever 
its all good man, i messaged the guy
23-10. Dear lord, this is painful. Anything I can do for this mess?
It is. Try
Arden/nemora
Shem
Nemora/Arden
Lyca
Tasi.
Control Arden, seirus Brut. Don't let brutus roar
Don’t let them do anything essentially lmao
Pretty much.
Well, it’s sure effective lmao. Just got it
@still oar still here? I’m pretty sure this is the best setup for me can you recommend relics
I’ve tried Arden and I guess either one is no better than the other but fawkes has higher def so I can give Rowan higher def
Belinda eye. Rowan grace or call. Lucius call or drape. Talene can blade since her healing based on attack. Fawkes grace or anything left.
Charming grezhul didn't help @jovial gate?
Honestly the main problem right now is that an ult from belinda fails to kill shemira
Oh and I can’t put belinda bottom because talene gets one-shotted and then Arden/fawkes gets one-shotted
Angelo is a big issue so I’m gonna try Arden again
@still oar yeah all the skill silencing is what’s killing me
Alright I’ll try
My one good rng only killed silvina and Angelo and maybe/almost grez. His minions took the heat and Shem got an ult off
Belinda targets Angelo before grez so I may have to put her bottom
And try fawkes to bring Shem as second target
Hmm try it
Much better cause belinda ulted, almost killed three. Fawkes was killed though gotta keep trying
Can you live long enough with Talene?
Need help for team on chapter 25
:p throwing around ideas helped
If your fawkes can dodge try
Rosa
Fawkes
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius @minor hatch
He dies instantly
I see. Then let's rowan warek
Lyca/belinda
rowan
Nemora
Ferael
Tasi.
Charm arden or seirus first. If you can do it without lyca use Belinda instead. And rng it if you charm seirus ferael interupts Arden.
Call on rowan.
Or if ferael can dodge
Shem
Ferael
Rowan
Tasi
Nemora.
Interupt Arden charm seirus
Or for lb comp.
Belinda
Rosa
Fawkes
Rowan
Lucius
Thoughts? Not sure how to deal with warek
might be another case of khasos yeeting axes LOL
I used up my merc
Here we go again
ik, i believe for this stage I used khasos back middle, so if it comes to the point that you cant clear till next week, try that
@calm basalt in the meantime id just swap backline to be numisu vurk safiya from top to bottom
idk what artifact is good on vurk maybe call, safiya blade, numisu idk, brutus drape skreg chalice
Belinda just can’t ult this stage
Help
Try swap nemora and fawkes position and charm estrilda @calm nova
@still oar estrilda's charge is killing nemora.
Golus isn't allowing nemora to use charm
Okay try
Lyca shemira
Fawkes rowan nemora @calm nova
@still oar didn't work
Any suggestion on line-up?
Ss on enemy can help
Any ideas?
LB tower floor 140 help please
@torn sable thanks, it worked, I was stubborn on including shemira into every teamcomp thats why I was stuck
@torn sable she is getting bit lesa usefull later on game but still viable choice
Need some help!
Any idea?
@tall palm
Tasi
Wu Kong
Arden
Ogi
Nemora
Help lol, I get destroyed
Need help here
Need help with this one
Guys can anyone help me here?
Any idea?
Need help with this stage
@shy crag maybe lucius / brutus / belinda / eironn / fawkes
@pale kettle maybe brutus / lucius / shemira / rowan / rosaline
?
How do I beat Dat damn lvl
is Eiron good? for Mid-late games?
Yes
@tall palm if you can afford it reset ogi and lvl up wu kong and then hogan / wu kong / gwyneth / mirael / lyca
@pale kettle maybe change rowan & mirael
@zenith marsh maybe shemira / khasos / mirael or belinda / rowan / fawkes
Do i focus on wilders i kinda want to but dunno if its gonna stop me from progressing
How to beat this stage? Man Nara is such a pain
Ok prestigious prizes is coming to an end and I need to pick a hero all my heroes are lvl 81 right now ... should I pick nemora? Farael? Or wu Kong? I am lacking in tanks severely but wu Kong drops off the higher lists as better tanks come into play. If I pick wu kong or nemora I will get them to elite+ but i dont have a ferael... thoughts?
Why heroes? You should go for rare cards
I can only pick blue cards
Yeah and you'll need blue cards to ascend your main lineup
Any tips for this?
I'm lvl 40ish though I cant level them without duplicates of the same card
@hardy oriole maybe change shemira with brutus or replace belinda with shemira and still brutus in front line
Okay! Thanks
@fallen wyvern One elite is not gonna help you much. You don't need Ferael right now. Nemora and Wukong you can get in lab store. Can I see your lineup?? You should be focusing on Saveas right now while getting Shem from lab store. Arden and Hogan could also help you. You should be making your legendary heroes the highest level heroes so you'll place them into the Crystal Pentagram. You'll easily get duplicates of L tier heroes.
What about me 
@fallen wyvernJust focus on ascending Saveas, Arden, Hogan and two more legendary tier heroes. Put those 5 in your crystal pentagram so you'll have the highest possible level for your current team. Keep pulling for Shemira. I suggest getting blue cards for GB so you'll have enough to ascend Shemira once you have enough copies. First goal is getting Shemira to 161, before that Saveas is your carry. Btw why aren't you pulling? You have 10k diamonds.
I dunno I'm a hoarder in most games lol im getting worried the diamonds will stop flowing lol
you receive 1100 diamonds weekly from daily and weekly achievements alone
Problem is saveas is not doing well at epic+
And as u can see it keeps pulling graveborn
@fallen wyvern btw let's move to questions this chat room is for lineups only hahaha. Don't hoard your diamonds it will stunt your progress. Try pulling your 10k diamonds you'll maybe have enough to get Saveas to L or L+ if you're lucky. He will carry you.
Ok wasnt sure where to post sorry
@fallen wyvern all good! Yeah just try ascending Saveas he'll carry you til Shemira can.
@jovial gate i doubt your arden is rooting first? try
talene
lucius
rowan
belinda
nemora
or swap in lyca for talene.. with nemora or arden.. if nemora, rng to charm the arden to root his own team
@ember abyss build around your carry.. presumably thats saveas for now..
saveas
lucius
khasos
hendriks
fawkes
or something like
saveas
brutus
tasi
khasos
nemora..
mix and match and adapt to stages.. on a side note reset the extra L lucius.. get back your fodder.
@novel adder noob question.. What's a fodder? 😂🤔
Oh right 😂.
@bright shuttle its a rng stage.. try
belinda
rowan
lucius
rosa
fawkes
@ornate totem try
eironn/ interrupter
belinda
fawkes
rowan
lucius
@final star try
safiya
brutus
khasos
tidus
numisu
i think numisu totem placement rng and khasos axe rng will be needed
@torn sable breaking 141 cap might be nice here.. try wilders
nemora
lucius
lyca
shem
arden/tasi
nemora charming estrilda or mirael is the preferred rng..
@shy crag hmm 200 crystal really holding you back here.. look for the 5th Ascended asap..
try
fawkes
lucius
shem
eironn
belinda
or put belinda front line and try nara on arden instead.. you can also try
fawkes
lyca
shem
lucius
nemora and rng the charm on arden.
@pale kettle i have no idea who those units are XD
but try wilders
nemora
shem
lyca
lucius
arden.
manipulate your gear so that nemora has the lower defense and tanks the silvina jump.
@novel adder ok but my closes 5 A is Brutus but still need 2 more copies
Also none of these comp worked
But thanks anyway
Any ideas?
@grand widget looks kinda difficult with what you have atm.. i'd put in khasos instead of satrana and put him middle.. but apart from that looks too troublesome to be worth the time right now.. check the stage replays and see what others have been using and what levels they are.
@tall palm probably needs some levels and rng.. but try
lyca
hogan
mirael
ogi
gwyn
@pale kettle try
tasi
lucius/brutus (if you have)
mirael
wukong
belinda.
rng until tasi can survive the jump otherwise there's too much damage for even lucius to handle.. brutus will last longer i think.
@zenith marsh try
belinda
lucius
mirael
khasos
tasi/arden
@zenith marsh try
belinda
lucius
mirael
khasos
tasi/arden
@novel adder okay, thanks, will try
@deep badge its a valid strat to focus wilders.. that would mean you keep pulling until you have enough copies of nemora, lyca, tasi and eironn.. thats the core you are trying to build.. work up to a midgame shemira to carry for the time being until eironn comes online.
@hardy oriole try
shem
lyca
nemora
lucius
tasi
make sure nemora has good mage boots and rng until she charms arden to root his own team
Yea for sure, I'll have to give it a go thanks
Sorry for disturb. U said lyca hogan mirael ogi and gwyn but i should do mirael or gwyn to dps? @novel adder
@pale kettle try
lucius
shem
rowan
brutus
tasi.
@heady wave try
tasi
shem
rowan
lucius
lyca.. maybe belinda
Who should i replace wukong with?
@pale kettle try
belinda
talene
rowan
lucius
shem
@tall palm both are dps at equal levels.. so it will be a bit more split damage.. gwyn more damage early, mirael after ult.. kaz will move forward anyway so gwyn will still hit 2 people if bottom side.. so its better to put mirael mid
I should overlvl mirael right
@tall palm choose either one.. but mirael makes more sense for now.. so you can go directly to level 120.. since she is E+.. gwyn after reaching 100, if you dont pull her you need to change again
Okey thanks ^^
@odd ginkgo depends.. keep wukong at 100 for now.. level the rest first.. mirael is a good choice to take over after 100.. belinda from 7 day is also okay.. shemira is also okay since you have her E+ already
Just an update hoping for some advice. Here is my hero list now. What should I be focusing on? What’s a good team comp? Should I ever sacrifice ascended tier heros to get better ones higher?
@novel adder do u mean all to 100?
@odd ginkgo yes. unless you decide on one now which is E+ and level them directly to 120 and keep crystal at80 first.
U mean shemira?
@novel adder Thanks , once i start getting food in wilders do i just push eironn or hold it ?I mean i got 2 E+
@cobalt lynx i dont recommend saccing Asc tiers.. will bite you in the long run.. your issue here is that you spent a lot of resources building so many heroes.. you kind of set yourself back a month or two here.. for context with the same amount of fodder you could already have almost 5 mythic heroes and all of them level 180... from now on.. exclusively build Legendary tier L+ heroes for all factions.. stop making anymore L heroes.. you need to focus all your fodder resources into upping 5 heroes to M > M+ and A eventually.. thats a total of 10 L+ fodder..
i suggest the 5 to be shemira, nemora, 2 lightbearers preferably belinda included and a mauler candidate.. between brutus, antandra and skriath,whichever copies come first..
as for comp for now.. just run lightbearer shemira or something.. but you are limited because you are capped by levels for a long time..
@deep badge hold for now.. aim to hit crystal level 100 first.. temporarily use belinda as carry and push her 140 after.. then slowly push your crystal to 120.. then at that time you re-evaluate based on all your pulls accumulated by then... that would be the best way to plan your progress.
@odd ginkgo shem works, up to you.. or 7th day login gives you E+ belinda.. or you can make an E mirael from 3 rare+ lightbearers.. to make mirael E+.. if you want to wait for a specific one for eg mirael.. then just level crystal while waiting..you still need to level it later.. so no harm leveling now.
Also one last thing , @novel adder Do i try and get saveas to L+?
Looking to finish out the chapter but brutus is such an ass... any suggestions?
@cobalt lynx no dont look at tier lists.. it gives 0 context and will make you do bad decisions if you dont actually understand the whole picture..(which is honestly the fault of tierlist makers).. the thing you have to understand about Afkarena is that apart from just a hero strategy game, its a resource management game.. so even though so and so hero is SSS+++++ hero, if its not realistic to build right now, leave it for later.. (unless you spend copious amounts of money which makes the resource management aspect moot, which is often the perspective of tierlist makers)
The main resource problem midgame is to hit the 5 ascended hero milestone as soon as possible.. so that you dont get level capped.. for this you need to prioritize heroes which you get a lot of copies of.. or those which you can supplement with buys from the shop.. only if you have a lot of options that you choose which unit is more viable..
shemira and nemora from lab shop are good buys and will be useful until lategame.. belinda is also agood option from challenger shop. the other two, the fastest way to do it now is to utilize the mauler faction and one more from the faction you havethe most stuff of.. looks like its light for you.. but you have to monitor who you pull to decide who to push up... regardless your fodder is not ready.. so focus on getting that first.. then re-evaluate
okay that makes sense. I appreciate the advice and you taking the time to explain
@cobalt lynx have a look at some of the tips and guides pinned in #classic-questions , its a tad late.. but it will help you grasp a bit more..
honestly i recommend starting an alt to play.. because this account might be stuck for a bit XD but its not unsaveable. it will normalize out later just gotta be patient
haha uninstall!
nah man dont haha.. events are underway.. so you might get a good injection of resource to help speed things up
anniversary event is soon
i sure hope so cause im definitely feeling the struggle of heroes that arent strong enough
@deep badge with the right fodder yes..but deesnt necessarily have to be now or even use him... he will still be a useful unit to channel the mauler fodder into.
most times youre looking to make the E+ to L+ jump when you are reaching level 120 units
@idle oriole i would try wilders
nemora
shem
arden/lyca
lucius
lyca/arden
Blue arden can work.. the rng is to charm the seirus to knock up his own arden and interrupt.. while your arden root them.
@gilded jewel try
tasi
shem
rowan
estrilda
lyca/nemora
What setup for lb floor 190?
Can anyone help me?
Ideas?
Not sure if im supposed to put this here but: worth?
waiit until you have another E+ copy of belinda in order to make her L+, there's a guide pinned in #classic-questions about this
🙏 thanks!
Ascend Kazz or wait for more food to ascend Eironn ?
@devout idol I'd wait towards the eironn
Should I keep power leveling Shemira? I know I'm very underleveled.
get the wukong in over brutus possibly, and I would stop Shem at 81 and level the lucius to 81 next instead
Ok!
Any ideas?
You need more summons still. I think you got it with the lucius/kong/shem core @burnt fulcrum
Kong starts to fall off after 81, try leveling shem and lucius next
Any advice?
@novel adder thanks for the help, I managed to clear it right after sending the message lol
Um I'm just started and I'm completely clueless on what to do ples help
@pale kettle Rosa or Rowan instead of Mirael
@torn sable
Arden
Lucius
Rosa
Brutus
Belinda
@pale kettle didn't work :/
stuck in 9-12 would love some help
my team is:
Numisu
Rosaline
Lucius
Hendrik
Savias
@raven ermine why aren't you using the resonating crystal
I have to wait for t to refresh, got 2 hores left
you said 9-12 right? try switching out hendrinks for wu kong
tried that already but let's give it few more tries
you could also try keeping hendriks and switching out numisu instead for a bigger faction boost
it always comes to this point, best outcome from 100+ tries
frontline get's deleted
why arent you using belinda?, go back to your original team and switch out either numisu or hendrinks for belinda
one of those two should work
i never used belinda i guess i could give her a try, i can make her go L+ i think
should i do that
you should def be using her, shes in even better carry than saveas i think, if you use them both together should be great
have been using belinda since the beginning, she has gotten me to chapter 15
i will also get a E+ belinda copy tomorrow from 7th login reward, this is my first week into the game
if you do that and put some good hear on her, she will take you far
great let's see. should i reset savias and split levels between them?
i would suggest hendrinks/lucius up front and belinda rosie and saveas in the back
that team should take you to at least chapter 11/12 w/ decent gear
reset, nemora and put her in the resonating crystal instead
you can keep saveas the way he is, maybe get him to 130, then focus on levleing belinda
great
I need help silvania boss stuck.
she will end up being your main carry for a while
you wanna make sure belinda has more attack than saveas so that rosie follows her, belinda's double special is insane @pale kettle
@steel smelt rowan should almost always be in the middle, the way you have hhim right now he can only use his potions to heal lucius and eiron, if you put him in the middle he will be much more effective
other than that good composition
once i get savias 160 i will replace him with my Shemira, after that should i remove him from team
yeah saveas is only good until 161, you have the right idea
@outer adder that's the target the silvani boss just straight up goes to and takes out before Rowan can do damage
silivani attacks whoever has the lowest defense score i believe, it isnt based off positioning @steel smelt
It won't work trust me. SHe goes after Rowan no matter what. And kills Rowan since he's magic mage.
doesnt matter, if you put rowan in the middle even if he dies you still have 3 healing potions that go to whoever needs them the most, which will make the rest of your team last longer even after rowan's death
you could also try, switching out eiron for gwenth that way you get a bigger faction bonus
make your team look like that, except belinda will be gwenth for you and antdra will be saveas @steel smelt
I need a formation. Can someone help me plz?
@tall palm switch out the big golem looking guy for wu kong
switch out lyca for saveas, he can be your meain carry until level 161 or until you get someone better
just wanted to note since i put belinda on team she can never use her ultimate and my team dies few seconds faster @outer adder guess i'll have to wait for hero exp?
I started using fawkes instead of lyca
Also my tanks die easily so i dont want lose my 1 tank
@tall palm wu kong is a better tank at that level than what you have
