#lineup-help

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jovial gate
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Rosa will take a hit and then sweep ideally and Shem will still get energy

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Alternately, Rosa Shem front and Lucius Rowan fawkes back. Mess around and see what goes best. It’s a good team

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I like having shemira in front with fawkes behind her and Rosa backline other side cause then Lucius tanks one side and everyone is by shemira, and damage dealer is brought next to shemira

pale kettle
jovial gate
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Honestly shemira in front is probably better even though you have mostly tanks right now

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You should have no problem winning levels with that shemira at 70, just look for support heroes

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Your wishlist should include Lucius fawkes Rowan Rosaline, tasi lyca nemora

pale kettle
jovial gate
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All of the celestial heroes are pretty good and if you’re ftp definitely worth in your team if you got him

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You’re so early in the game though don’t expect any celestials

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There are better heroes though I don’t see him in many high level teams

brave oriole
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@pale kettleshekira should be down, so talene shem, Lucius roaa fawk

jovial gate
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I don’t know what estrilda does to help. I like Lucius Brutus front Rosa Rowan Belinda back with my account that uses Belinda

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Raine might help since its increased damage on a target

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@supple ruin if you didn’t waste fodder sending heroes to legendary you’d have a mythic by now and be over the level cap

pale kettle
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@brave oriole shemira still cant survive ogi and ira*

supple ruin
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i know kinda messed up just gotta wait for the naext labyrinth so i can buy another shemira:(((

jovial gate
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That will help a lot

pale kettle
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@jovial gate the rosa sweep works but lucius cant take ira and ogi haha

jovial gate
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Try talene instead and see if the team lasts

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Or Brutus and count on shemira starting to ult by the time invincibility wears off

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@pale kettle for most fights I just have my usual five ish formations that I know are effective and mirror them depending on what side needs to be targeted lol, experimenting till I find something close. If I really pushed hard I would try a lot more rng and run things a lot of times

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Right now both my accounts are chapter 16 and waiting on everyone getting to 160 to get main 181, so I’m not pushing hard

pale kettle
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@jovial gate haha thanks i appreciate ur help. il try afew more times before i stop pushing again

vivid hedge
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need help please, what should be my lineup for this chapter? im stucked in this chapter for weeks now

still oar
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Let's see. Try
Nemora

Talene
Rowan
Lyca
Saveas.
Eye on saveas and try charm golus or ankhira. Depends on where she goes and rng it so saveas isn't controlled @vivid hedge

vivid hedge
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i'll try it out now. thank you! @still oar

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wow it worked. tysm!

jovial gate
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@vivid hedge you’re getting to the end of your rope for saveas to carry. Consider using Belinda (who you have a good number of, can buy from store if needed) or shemira who you can get to mythic and can get copies from lab store

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Getting the character to 161 and higher will almost certainly un-stick you. You may even want to reset lyca to 141 and put all exp into your new carry

vivid hedge
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i see, thanks! who is better carry for ch12, shemira or belinda?

jovial gate
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So I have an account with each, and both have gotten to chapter 16. My one account I was stupid and didn’t get many shemira copies but got 8 belinda copies

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I think shemira is better but both have certain enemies they struggle against. Depends on your resources

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Also, I have found nemora to be almost useless and use Rosaline Rowan and then fawkes or Arden most of the time

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Since your Lucius is only e+ same with your other tanks you may want to use shemira who does better front line @vivid hedge

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You could run shemira talene front and fawkes Rowan lyca/nemora/tasi back

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Nara, lyca, Arden, tasi, fawkes all useful sometimes

exotic oar
exotic oar
copper urchin
tidal zodiac
ripe beacon
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@tidal zodiac try arden-3 nemora-4 lyca-5 shem-1 and lucius-2

copper urchin
winter matrix
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Fawkes
Wukong
Tasi
Lucius
Belinda

tidal zodiac
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@ripe beacon that was a freaking shit show

oak lance
sacred badge
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@oak lance

  1. Shemira
  2. Thoran (or Tasi for extra RNG)
  3. Rowan
  4. Brutus (to tank enemy Athalia)
  5. Fawkes / Ferael / Raine
onyx basin
tidal zodiac
sacred badge
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@onyx basin
Please try:

  1. Thoran
  2. Shemira
  3. Nara
  4. Ferael
  5. Silvina
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@tidal zodiac

  1. Brutus
  2. Shemira
  3. Fawkes
  4. Balinda (or any CC / utility unit like Nimura)
  5. Rowan
copper urchin
onyx basin
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@sacred badge Thanks for your suggestion, but since Thoran is not mythic(im working on it) I can't cheese this out. Best I did is got everyone killed except Warek

restive socket
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@copper urchin just thoran it

copper urchin
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thoran i cant resist

tidal zodiac
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@sacred badge sorry. That line up failed :/

restive socket
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sry no clue what you mean, but casual cheese thoran formation is enough to clean this up @copper urchin

tidal zodiac
pale kettle
copper urchin
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@restive socket but what team do with thoan?

restive socket
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@copper urchin front - rowan/thoran, back - lorsan, eironn, kelthur

onyx basin
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@sacred badge actually after many tries i passed it, thank you once more

copper urchin
restive socket
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formation is good, now u need to be patient and replay it again and again. u might wanna take off armor from thoran to make him take more dmg

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it took me plenty of tries to get it done as i remember

copper urchin
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or more less armor?

grave sandal
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Sooo with a lot of luck i was able to get the forest blessing in peaks of time. But i lost my lightbringer team and my wilder b team. Any ideas on a rag tag squad that can beat this set of elite enemies? My crystal level is 105 and i’m contemplating either bringing in estrilda e, belinda e+, brutus e, or fereal e+. Cos i have the +10% def per lightbringer relic

restive socket
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@copper urchin i usually only take off chestplate, but you should use dura's call or dura's blade as an artifact

copper urchin
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ok

wild cape
copper urchin
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ty Miko is passed

violet igloo
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Hi @wild cape can you please send me a screenshot of your hero box ?

wild cape
upper flint
restive socket
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rowan/thoran/lorsan/eironn/kelthur @upper flint

mossy galleon
upper flint
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Thoran dies before using his Ulti everytime @restive socket

restive socket
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@upper flint use dura's call, and try again and again you will get it eve

violet igloo
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@wild cape i would recommend you read the 1 page quick start guide pinned in #classic-questions it'll help you a lot

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@mossy galleon same for you, go to #classic-questions and read the 1 page quick start guide. I supposed that you have used Mirael to ascend belinda to L ?

upper flint
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@restive socket passed it. Thank you warekheart

restive socket
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u'r most welcome

smoky delta
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Someone please help me.... This stage is seriously pissing me off. Is the only way to pass is with M Rowan? I saw someone with level 200 heroes with the exact same line-up pass this stage... I'm seriously going insane

mossy galleon
violet igloo
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@mossy galleon buy Shemira in lab store, if you have Saveas or Mirael keep them they are the best DPS for your level right now.

Put Belinda level 110 and other heroes lvl 70.

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Wukong
Nemora

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Also it's normal to be stuck, you need to wait and get XP from chest and make heroes stronger, it's called AFK for a reason :) 👌

round gust
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Who can tell me the best team from my screen shot

winter matrix
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Teams depend on the enemy formation, but u could do

Rosaline
Eironn
Rowan
Lucius
Talene/Fawkes

Also, dont make L heroes if u cant L+ them

round gust
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Ok thanks for the help

dusk bane
winter matrix
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Overlevel Shemira, not Lucius.
You should always lvl/ascend Carry > Tank > Support.

Rosaline
Shemira
Lyca
Lucius
Fawkes/Nemora

dusk bane
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Thanks a lot! Should I leave rosaline, lyca and nemora at level 80?

winter matrix
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For now get Shemira to 120 and then crystal to 100

sharp bear
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Hi

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How can I improve?

winter matrix
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You should also overlevel Belinda as she is your carry.
And dont make heroes L if u cant make them L+.
Better to save ur fodder.

Rosaline
Belinda
Raine
Lucius
Wukong

sharp bear
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Ty

pale kettle
winter matrix
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Belinda
Brutus
Rowan
Rigby
Khasos


Tasi
Shemira
Fawkes
Rosaline
Athalia

pale kettle
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I dont own rosaline😭 @winter matrix

winter matrix
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Then maybe Estrilda instead

pale kettle
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Alright ill change it thx @winter matrix

noble tundra
stray pine
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Lyca
Grez
Nemora
Shem
Tasi

————————
Numisu
Warek
Khasos
Brutus
Saveas
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Fawkes
Rigby
Rowan
Estrilda
Belinda

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@pale kettle

pale kettle
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Try
Arden
>>>>Brutus
Belinda
>>>>Wukong
Rosaline

winter matrix
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@noble tundra u need more DPS. Maybe u can do

Talene
Lucius
Belinda
Ulmus
Arde

prime cave
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Any ideas? I get destroyed in seconds

winter matrix
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Thave u tried

Nemora
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Lyca?

prime cave
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Lemme try

noble tundra
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@cwonk thx after 30 tries i get wiped out before any of the ultimates can fire off, so seems like i have to wait till i can ascend someone to L+

bright sigil
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Any tips?

violet igloo
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try nemora instead of mehira

austere stag
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or which is the best main lineup i can run for PvP?

lime quiver
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I just want to get nemora to charm him but I don't have her lorsob

zinc stump
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@austere stag figure out the counters to the teams you're going against is the best. Otherwise you can run something like a 5xLB and a Feral+W with the 3rd being made from your leftovers

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@lime quiver try more CC like the wilders. If you can get Nem to charm and Tasi to sleep so Shem can get her ult off it helps

austere stag
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@zinc stump basically the whole top 50 is just full LB, 5-6 people are running tri combos though. I'm not that knowledgeable on which formations counters which

lime quiver
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I think if I get nemora e+ and tasi e+ I can complete the chapters like a breeze, my luck it's not that good though

empty pulsar
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Nemora comes from lab shop. I can usually get at least 2 heroes per lab reset. Shem>nem

lime quiver
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Yeah Ive already buyed Shem like 10 days ago and I think today I reach 45k, I'm gonna buy nemora and try, but I think if she's not e+ it's not gonna be that effective

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Correct me if I'm wrong, in order to charm someone I have to put nemora in the same line? Or it's random like Arden roots?

still oar
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The charm has range so don't need to be 8n the opposite line. The range is same as Mehira's breath but only one can be charmed by nemora. The closer the enemies to the center the more likely they are getting it @lime quiver

empty pulsar
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Yes, but still may take a few tries. You'll want to run lyca and nemora.

lime quiver
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Could a good lineup be
Lyca

Eironn
Nemora
Lucius
Arden
Or eironn it's not good enough at that point of the game to be used?

empty pulsar
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No, keep shem or transition to a saveas carry. Shem isn't as strong pre 161 though, but still useable.

For that team I would do

Nemora
Shem
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca

still oar
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You might want enemies to attack lucius do he can pop his shield faster

lime quiver
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If I put him with saveas he dies pretty fast and if I put him with niru I think he survives with 1hp and ults

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But the problem is that he can do that with Rowan heals, I don't think he can survive without him

empty pulsar
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That's why I kept Rowan in there.

lime quiver
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Oh I didn't saw Rowan, my bad

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Isn't important the faction bonus though?

empty pulsar
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Would you rather have the bonus, or clear the stage? Faction bonus is strong, but you have to work around the team you're facing and the heroes you have to make a successful lineup.

lime quiver
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I'll try that formation when lab pops out, thanks, I love you

pale kettle
lime quiver
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Perhaps
Belinda

Lucius
Rowan
Gorvo/Wu
Lyca/eironn

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Wukong may be the best option, he is a hard carry on early

summer wagon
sharp adder
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Use talene

summer wagon
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for brutus?

sharp adder
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Yes

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Does it work

summer wagon
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Makes the battle longer but not necessarily better.
Maybe my dura items are wrong
Talene: Grace
Shemira: Drape
Rowan: Call
Rosaline: Eye
Fawkes: Chalice of vitality

sharp adder
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@pale kettle try maxing out the current 5 if it still doesnt work then you'll have to grind

shy crag
lime quiver
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@pale kettle it's not recommended to use Belinda as a front line due to her low defense, try using Wu there and keep Belinda in the back line

lament birch
brave oriole
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@shy crag there's times when fawk coffin fail, i. mean shem will dodge at all. I would try Lucius shem , fawk rowan rosa, or Lucius rosa, fawk rowan Belinda. but you can also try Lucius shem, Rosa rowan bel

pale kettle
calm basalt
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If i survive the athalia ult, ira just does the rain arrows thing and kills me

shy crag
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@brave oriole every compo will die in few secs

amber jay
winter matrix
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Belinda, and when u get Shemira to M reset everyone to 140 and get 180 Shem

amber jay
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Ok thanks

calm basalt
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@winter matrix any advice for the stage i posted

winter matrix
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Im stuck on the same stage m8

calm basalt
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oh damn

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well ill let you know if i find a solution

umbral badger
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+30 SI on all of them. Two Dura's tears later and I can't even kill one of them.

brave oriole
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@umbral badger why do you need nemora? if you used dura just use something else, shemira for ex, or rosaline for bel double nuke

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even rowan front, full energy would stun 3 of them

umbral badger
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@brave oriole Thanks for the reply. Rosa follows my Lucius and I have been through my entire crystal twice so I was trying anything and everything

brave oriole
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@umbral badger you don't need Lucius just go rowan bel, lyca middle, Rosa back of bel, and maybe estrilda

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@brave oriole it's easy to lower Lucius rating to get bel followed, remove the artifact and maybe use a weaker item on him,

pale kettle
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@deep badge you need another tank instead of Tasi or Arden

deep badge
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But i dont have anything WAAAHsos

umbral badger
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@brave oriole I'll use another Dura's tear and try with that. Thanks

brave oriole
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@deep badge should be easy stage, just try Rosa bel, Lucius nemora wu

pale kettle
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@deep badge Brutus might work

deep badge
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Like everyones saying grab lucius do this do that but that guy just dies instantly

pale kettle
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which artifacts do you have?

deep badge
brave oriole
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@deep badge put him Backline to survive

deep badge
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yeah but nemora gets 3 shot lucious dies before he can ult and so does wu

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isabella keeps raping me also vedan is a problem rosowo

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I almost made it but i just realised my only artifact is on brutus

pale kettle
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well, move the artifact to a hero youre gonna be using

deep badge
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yeah i know that now.. i just need to get lucky i guess ill give it 80ish more tries

umbral badger
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@brave oriole OK, I got 'em with your help. Thanks! One small adjustment to keep Belinda from dying was this:
Rowan / Gwyneth
Belinda / Lyca / Rosaline

deep badge
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Last time lucius somehow got thru their luneup and went to town now he just keeps dying but he never gets the ult off

pale kettle
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keep restarting for the perfect RNG

deep badge
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yeah belinda just needs to crit all the time..

pale kettle
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Belinda is a beast late game. when you put good gear on her and Dura's eye, she's unstoppable

umbral badger
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@pale kettle Neat! I usually have Conviction on mine and Eye on Khasos

pale kettle
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i don't use Belinda on my main team, when I use her and put the best gear on her, her crit rating is 78% and haste is 26

lost solstice
brisk oar
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16-16 been stuck almost a week. Help?

cerulean hamlet
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@lost solstice
Try moving Arden to the bottom and Nemora to the top so she charms their arden so you get all/most their team rooted at once. Might take some moving of gear to allow your nemora to charm their arden before his root too

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@brisk oar I don't think Lyca is that great a dodge tank at that point of the game unless you have lots of M gear for her.

I'd put Rowan on crystal, perhaps reset nemora to give her levels to Lucius then run something like:
Belinda

  • Lucius
    Rowan
  • Brutus
    Shemira
winter matrix
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Have u tried

Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline? @brisk oar

brisk oar
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Shemira dies in front row immediately

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Ill give it a few tries with the suggestions thanks guys

brave oriole
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@brisk oar maybe Brutus Rosa, fawk rowan shem, I would put your elite rowan in the Chrystal right now

zealous flower
empty pulsar
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@zealous flower you need to post your heroes:)

zealous flower
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@empty pulsar that actually worked first try, lol 😉 ty ❤️

empty pulsar
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:)

zealous flower
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Worked for 59 and 60 too 🙂 @empty pulsar

empty pulsar
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Nice! Tagging for 28-59 and 28-60

supple condor
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@pale kettle sorry a little late, but this lineup has helped me push through to chapter 25 and hasnt really failed me much, so this should give you a good idea on who to aim for. Lucius for team heals and sturdy tanking, Rowan for team survivability on burst damage and energy gains, Fawkes and Ferael for controlling the enemy and allowing you to win otherwise unwinnable matchups sometimes. Shemira as main win condition and tank. She can often be switched out for Belinda, and Ferael/Fawkes can be switched out for other methods of control if needed.

pale kettle
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Damn, Shemira is that good? I got her as my first elite out of a pack at chapter 2

supple condor
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Shemira will easily carry you from day 1 to chapter 24 if you focus on building her from Lab store yea, her self sustain aoe is unparalleled.

pale kettle
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noted

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She really does heal a hell of a tonne, thanks, I’ll focus on levelling her

supple condor
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mainly tho for backline support you really do wanna try and get rowans, since he can output instaheal potions indefinitely as long as hes alive, plus he can ignore any amount of damage every so often (ex. enemy hits rowan for the first time for 9,999,999 - if his damage control ability is unlocked, he completely ignores it)

pale kettle
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I’m assuming Rowan is backpack person?

supple condor
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yea hes the noseless staff boy with the stick lol

pale kettle
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I’m very bad with names so I just go with the most defining feature of each character

supple condor
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he can also allow teammates to ult very early since he generates energy, steals energy from enemies, and his ult distributes energy - and his signature item allows a teammate to essentially ult at 600 energy instead of 1k, which is extremely op

pale kettle
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Wait that’s broken tho

supple condor
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a little lmao rowan has no balance

pale kettle
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That’s the point isn’t it

supple condor
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perhaps

pale kettle
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Pfft, nice

rose canopy
still oar
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On whom to resonate? Fawkes Arden and eironn. Keep 1 free @rose canopy

rose canopy
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Need a team to soldier through everything too.. every part of the game has become hard and I have no idea who to use

still oar
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Ah ic. Without knowing the stage and if you do saveas carry.
Brutus wukong saveas rowan lyca still a good general comp

rose canopy
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Not having a healer seems to be a problem though

still oar
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Rowan potions can handle that position

rose canopy
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I’ll try ty

brave oriole
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@rose canopy Cecilia is a beast

unborn mason
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can someone name me a good khazard team for alt run?

latent pollen
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I'm new how do I not mess up as a begginer

latent pollen
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?

worthy island
gloomy coral
final hare
river sorrel
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Hey could I get some quick help please, should I take Lucius up to Mythic or Fawkes to L+

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When I say take Lucius up to mythic ima make a hogan L+, not gonna use Belinda

gloomy coral
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U shouldnt ever sacrifice a ascend hero always use fodder. Depending on if your close to ascending luscius id say make him mythic. If you dont have any copy’s of him id say go faux l+ first tbh

dusk bane
jovial gate
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@dusk bane at your level a lot of teams will do well, especially since you have strong Lucius and good supports

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I find that nemora falls off quickly for example. Eironn, skreg, and some others seem very good early game but then lack damage and tankiness mid game where Shem thrives

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@river sorrel fawkes and Rowan are characters that do well no matter what ascension level they are, but Lucius may sometimes need the extra stats. You can also just wait if you’re not super stuck

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@latent pollen go to #classic-questions and look at the pinned messages there’s a starter guide

pale kettle
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On my lineup I have Belinda, Lucius, Isabella, Vurk and Shemira is it any good or change up?

mighty rampart
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We can't know if your lineup is "optimal" unless we know what else you have available to change or what stage you're stuck on

pale kettle
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Could you tell me what better options are just in general? like is it a good team, i'm not stuck I just wannna know

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Cause I can aim to get heroes

mighty rampart
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Lucius, Belinda, and Shemira are all very good until Shemira falls off somewhere between Chapter 22 and 26. Vurk is pretty weak and I just dont know about isabella. I would definitely change Vurk to be Fawkes or Fae. Then it'd be a pretty solid team for normal levels

teal glade
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That eiron comp virtually never loses is my only consideration. Though I dod have lyca in the gb comp and rowan in the wilder

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Would eironn not work better than khas? Even at m he feels damn strong

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My gwyneth is so close to ascended. I really wish I could work a gwyneth+estrilda or arthus combo into my lb but I'm a little ways off the last fodder

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1 other question too. just noticed I'm 1e and 30k pts from my last eironn and l+ fodder to ascend eironn. When I ascend him I'm guessing that changes things

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K and the keep brutus as a front line in the comp with tasi as the other?

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Alright cheers. I'm normally hovering around 50 to 60 so this event should go well

lilac tulip
lilac tulip
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help?

still oar
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Maybe. Resonate tasi and try
Tasi

Wukong(brutus)
Rosa
Talene
Belinda @lilac tulip

lilac tulip
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still got rekt lorsob

teal glade
still oar
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Lucius and tasi FL might be better. Use cc, protect yourself and slowly killing the enemies with ferael @teal glade

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Especially for def

teal glade
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Kk I'll give it a whirl n see how it goes. Got a ways to go for athalia copies to ascend her then she's in with her 30 SI for some real pain.

Might consider eironn once hes ascended too in a few days

So are we thinking lucius, tasi, shem rowan ferael. Or drop shem for fawkes

sick moss
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Is this lineup decent? frontline: lucius shemira. Backline: nemora rowan belinda

daring plaza
still oar
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Yes, the latter tasi Luci fawkes rowan ferael @teal glade.

teal glade
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@still oar hmmm no shemira. An interesting notion. Ima see how it works. Should have 230 ish of feraels 30 this event which makes a big dent too.

Safe to say eye tasi blade ferael? Or grace tasi eye fawkes blade ferqel

Also I just realized what absolute cancer that lineup plan of yours is to anyone focusing in a belinda or shemira comp. That's some absolutely messed up lockdown

still oar
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Try blade on fawkes and make him the highest attack rating so tasi or fawkes will aim him. That way your ferael won't be cc'ed and if fawkes is banished or coffined it will prolong your fawkes coffin.
Ferael eye or conviction
Rowan call or grace
Lucius maybe drape
Tasi grace, call or eye @teal glade

teal glade
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Drape over chalice? Do I just undervalue drape

still oar
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Drape has nice def stats and it increases healing on the wearer. Either is fine I think. Sometimes I even forgot to put anything and he still works fine with rowan

teal glade
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@still oar so the only way fawkes can be highest atk is if ferael has no gear but duras cause of his SI 😂. Which will get worse when he goes from 21 to 28

still oar
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Hmm. Can't gimp ferael with t1 helmet and weapon?
I gimp my eironn by putting t1 helmet and spear and put t2 on my lyca.
Eironn is +30 while lyca is +20

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🤔

teal glade
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No gear puts him 3k under fawkes. That 21 SI gap is huge.

still oar
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Oh right your fawkes is not even 10 mb belinda

outer adder
still oar
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Try
Belinda

Tasi(lucius)
Rowan
Lucius (tasi)
Nemora
Charm estrilda. And if Nemora isn't fast enough put better boot on her.
I suggest to level your belinda more first before you leveling your crystal. Overleveled carry is still the best strat imp @outer adder

teal glade
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@still oar yes and now I have so many other priorities. Maybe for nownill just use the shem in place of tasi then reevaluate options once eironn's ascended this week. Becomes either tasinfor cc and risk my carry being locked or using shemira as bait and foregoing some cc

outer adder
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hmm i see okay ill give it a shot, but i think im a little underleveled to beat it before time runs out with only one dps

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and yeah im gonna start overlevling because i still need one more legendary+ to break 141 w/ my team anyway

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thanks

still oar
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👍 👍

keen bison
pale kettle
mighty veldt
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@daring plaza not sure if anyone mentioned it but if you got your Shem to 200 by resetting Belinda you’d clear a full 2 chapters relatively easily

pale kettle
winter matrix
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Lyca
Lucius
Rowan/Tasi
Nemora

And reset to see what happens when Nemora charms Arden

hollow blade
odd python
restive socket
tranquil breach
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Lmao im at the same stage xD was about to post mine, but my team comp is different maybe both of us can be helped with the same line up @restive socket

sharp flame
tranquil breach
onyx basin
rotund ice
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Try
Belinda
Lucius
Fawkes
Rowan
Rosa

Rosa should follow Belinda
@onyx basin

onyx basin
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@rotund ice Shemira stops belinda from ulting(after she gets released) and athalia oneshots whole 4 team after that

rotund ice
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@onyx basin Just repeat until shem doesn't get silence off on her. You have the heroes and levels to clear it just need a bit of rng

onyx basin
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even after ulting belinda doesnt kill a single enemy, only damages them and athalia always oneshots

hollow blade
rotund ice
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@onyx basin try swapping your Belinda with fawkes and rowan with lucius.

onyx basin
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@rotund ice id say this is worse than the previous one since belinda is dying sooner

violet igloo
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@hollow blade are you in lab ?

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looks like you are

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can you take a screenshot of your heroes and lab relics ? (in the lab, look at the icons bottom right

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Try :

Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Baden

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Don't forget that you can press pause during combat and you can restart the fight if you see that you're not gonna make it

onyx basin
hollow blade
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@violet igloothanks and yes im in the lab

violet igloo
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hmm, you have too many heroes @pale kettle stuck in Legendary. Try and not put them to L if you don't have an E+ to put them to L+ straight after.

pale kettle
violet igloo
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Put Nemora mid maybe, it could help her to charm ennemy arden. You need to have your Nemora charm ennemy Arden, It'll require lots of retries, but it's doable. If Shemira dies too fast put Tasi frontline and have her TP.

pale kettle
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OK. Is there a chance I can control that TP? It seems to go off at random.

empty pulsar
pale kettle
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Nope. Doesn't seem to work. Guess I just need 180 on the Crystal.

split mist
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I tried all lineup they all die.

onyx basin
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@split mist tasi to CC him before he turns to bats?

split mist
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She dies within second

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I literaly tried everything
Three of my character have more lvl. This is dumb

violet igloo
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@pale kettle it can work, you need to be lucky. If you don't have the levels, sometimes you need to retry like 500 times

split mist
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T. T

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Ahh drives me up thé friggin walls

somber orbit
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Current lineup:

noble tundra
split mist
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Omg i was finally able to kill vedan but then i was still killed

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Ive been stuck for à week...

noble tundra
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I am a noob as well started two weeks ago what i would suggest is to level your crystal so all heroes are 120 and use tasi to cc

split mist
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Well what do you think i am trying to do lol

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I dont loot any good heroes these days

noble tundra
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You have an e+ put that in the crystal and you should be good. Reset the elite one

empty pulsar
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@noble tundra you need some sort of carry, Belinda/Shem/Saveas are the most common to use early. It is also very dependent on relic drops.

uncut ermine
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I'm I using the right heroes ._. help

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Am I*

empty pulsar
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@uncut ermine looks fine so far. Dump all your exp into saveas and take him L+ asap.

brave oriole
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@split mist wrong team 😭

split mist
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What

uncut ermine
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Thank youuuuuu I will see it now

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@empty pulsar can I do you or something?

brave oriole
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@split mist try shem Rosa, bel rowan Lucius

empty pulsar
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@uncut ermine ask xperta, I'm working now :)

split mist
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I Will try but i have no hope whatsoever

brave oriole
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@split mistyou have to use Rosa always in your team, and pushing Belinda and shem, it's hella bad. I would not focus a second on Belinda if there's shem. focus on your others lb, spcly Lucius to have a strong front line, then rowan rosa

split mist
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Omg

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U were right. I won

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Omg i did friggin won

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Why cant i use belinda and shem togheter? How does it Hurt m'y team?

brave oriole
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@split mistjust keep front line shem Rosa, and Lucius back of Rosa, rowan middle and the 5th can be Belinda for a while

split mist
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Ok thanks!!!

brave oriole
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@split mistif you use your resources on Belinda, then you won't be able to have a strong Lucius for your front line, a strong rowan and so on. you only need one carry, and that's shemira till. chap 24 +

split mist
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Thé other fight still has a freaking vedan in this xD

brave oriole
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he will be lots of stages from. chap 9,but.always put Rosa front of him. and shem. on the other side. and Lucius back of Rosa

split mist
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Im stuck again xD thé positon dont work with this one

brave oriole
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what stage..

split mist
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I die even quicker than Last stage

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Might Just be that i need to get lucky and get good copies

brave oriole
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use dura's grace on shem, dura's call on Lucius

split mist
brave oriole
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and maybe use sometimes tasi instead of bel

split mist
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Ohhh i can get lucius to legndary with him!

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Brutus "* i mean

brave oriole
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I wouldn't

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read some guides about ascending heroes @split mist, before to waste useful heroes

sharp flame
split mist
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There is that here?

brave oriole
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@sharp flame I would try to get a better rowan than fawk,

sharp flame
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@brave oriole cook, what about the others are they good?

brave oriole
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@sharp flame yeah, eironn is a must, thoran too, for cheese stages imokbrutus

pale kettle
brave oriole
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@pale kettle try a full lb team. Belinda carry, Hogan second Frontline, fawk rowan rosa

split mist
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I dont intent to use warek tho

pale kettle
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@pale kettle try a full lb team. Belinda carry, Hogan second Frontline, fawk rowan rosa
@brave oriole okay sir will try

near plover
brave oriole
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@pale kettle good, let me know how's going

pale kettle
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@brave oriole works bro . Already pass 2 boss . But i can get thru the highlands last monsters

placid egret
sharp oar
lime quiver
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@sharp oar you need to level only five heroes, and reset the rest
An optimal leveled heroes in early should be something like
Saveas, Hogan, Arden, mirael and vedan
The rest is gonna be the same level when you get slots in the crystal
Why doing that? Because it's easier to level them to L+, than leveling ascended heroes
Saveas is the best carry on early game
A good lineup in my opinion could be
Tasi

Brutus
Rowan
Wukong
Saveas
You should be slaughtering everyone with that, overlevel saveas and focus on him until L+, then level Brutus, if you can get nemora, Lyca and Lucius you can be even stronger doing
Lyca
Saveas
Nemora
Lucius
Tasi

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@placid egret you're putting a lot of damage heroes, but try to get tasi as I wrote on the message above, it's better to have more supports, one damage and one tank, if saveas can't die he will carry everything

empty pulsar
sharp oar
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I see, thanks for the tip. But I thought at some point ascended tier will be able to reach a higher level than legendary tier ones.
Or Am I worrying about it alittle too early 🤔
Just thinking ahead...

lime quiver
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Yes, legendary tier heroes can only get to L+, but imagine your Rowan, you need 2 copies to make it E+, and two more Rowan's to have him L+, it's a lot compared to Hogan or mirael, as they appear quite often
And by the time you achieve 4 copies of any hero to have him L+, you will have the legendaries to ascend them to mythic

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Oh, make sure to retire common heroes too, they are just occupying space slots and remember, put all levels to your carry(saveas), once he's maxed go ahead with your tank(Brutus,possibly Lucius) then proceed with supports. Carry>tank>supp

lime quiver
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I have one E belinda, and lorsen? Lorsan? It's E+ now

night compass
violet igloo
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@night compass have you tried swapping Rosa and Fakwes position ?

sage grove
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Thoughts on lineup? Anyone to shoot for?

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I feel kinda stuck. Cant beat level 3 labyrinths now. Barely beating these levels. Gear is mega enhanced. Do all quests as soon as they are available. I feel like Rowan is swappable but not sure who

weary cobalt
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the first team is always win but the other losing sometimes battles that i should win so Idk what im doing wrong

vital briar
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Im stuck at 301 kings tower, is here thr right place to talk about it

violet igloo
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@vital briar you can post here and your lineup, we can have a quick look

vital briar
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@violet igloo sure. Thats where

ornate totem
restive temple
violet igloo
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@ornate totem does Belinda kill people when she ults ?

pale kettle
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Help my for my team

ornate totem
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@violet igloo she can't all team dies in 5 seconds!

empty pulsar
ornate totem
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@empty pulsar i have no god wilders

keen bison
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@ornate totem I just beat this last night. I wish I took a screenshot cause I used the same team. I think I had rosaline in front of seirus

shadow onyx
brazen tusk
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@shadow onyx I am no expert, but I suggest

Lucius
Brutus
Belinda
Rowan
Shem

shadow onyx
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Wasn't quite enough but got me closer to only 2 enemies
Thank you

south pagoda
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How the fuck, do you pass this shit? Vurk one shots my team in 1 bomb or whatever

brazen tusk
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@south pagoda Maybe but Fawkes on Nemoras position and switch Nemora for Belinda

jovial gate
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@south pagoda if fawkes targets vurk but is too slow throw lyca in

lime quiver
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Is anyone well informed when talking about lineup knowledge?

jovial gate
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Just post your heroes and what your question is

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If people that can help are online they will

lime quiver
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Ive already did it, but no one answered me, I don't want to be spamming like a mad man

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Like 3 hours ago

jovial gate
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Try like once every 20 messages or so lol

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Nobody scrolls up past 25 messages

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@shadow onyx remember gb has advantage over lb, Lucius won’t last try wilders

wheat saffron
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@shadow onyx TRY:
Belinda
---------Rosaline
Rowan
---------Lucius
Tasi

jovial gate
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@pale kettle Lucius Brutus Belinda nemora tasi maybe

lime quiver
wheat saffron
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@restive temple There isnt such thing as best team but I'd try:
Reset Shemira and get Belinda up instead, throw Rowan in the crystal and go for:
Belinda
----------Brutus
Rowan
----------Wukong
Fawkes
Can also try Hogan for one of the tanks

lime quiver
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Also I'm seeing my friends teams in my list that are in the same campaign level or beyond and damn they have like 3 legendaries my pulls were so unlucky

wheat saffron
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You'll have a lv1 hero in there, you need 1 more on your crystal, I'd say Wukong @lime quiver

lime quiver
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But every match is with lvl 250, what's the point in adding one in the crystal if he's gonna be the same level as any lvl 1

wheat saffron
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Right, try Team 1:
Belinda
--------Hogan
Rowan
--------Wukong
Rosaline
Team 2:
Lyca
--------Lucius
Arden
--------Eironn
Lorsan
Team 3:
Nara
------Shemira
Farael
------Brutus
Estrilda
@lime quiver

south pagoda
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@jovial gate Fawkes coffins Brutus... not vurk .-.

wheat saffron
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@south pagoda Try Rosaline for Nemora and put Fawkes on 3 and Rosa on 5

lime quiver
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Ty, I'm gonna gear them and try those, oh and one last question, I was winning a certain amount of coins/h, but when I checked again I was at 0, why did I stopped gaining?

south pagoda
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So

Rosa
Luci
Fawkes
shem
Rowan

wheat saffron
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@lime quiver Keep in mind these are defensive formations and not Offensive

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You put Fawkes on 4 @south pagoda

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Fawkes
--------Lucius
Rowan
--------Shemira
Rosaline
@south pagoda

south pagoda
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Doesn't work... Estrila charges, vurk detonates te thing

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and everything is dead

wheat saffron
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Try mirroring it @south pagoda

south pagoda
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What does mirroring it mean?

wheat saffron
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Rosaline
---------Shemira
Rowan
---------Lucius
Fawkes
@south pagoda

south pagoda
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Doesn't work, vurk and estrilda kill shem in seconds

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I tried rowan front, for the immunity, doesn't survive more than 3 hits

empty pulsar
south pagoda
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Will try

brave oriole
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@south pagodarhats easy stage, just you need Rosa

south pagoda
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Rosa dies... doesn't do shit? Elaborate please

empty pulsar
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@south pagoda why so much swearing. Chillax :D

south pagoda
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Oh idk, I just type like that lol, sorry

empty pulsar
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That's cool then. As long as you aren't rude to Xperta :P

brave oriole
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@south pagodawell, I would try this shem Rosa, fawk rowan lucius. grace on shem, Rosa sword, fawk eye, Lucius call and so on

south pagoda
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Okay, will try a few times

neon urchin
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I'm late game, where I have all the good heros from the lab ascended. I just got Arthur. Should I start working on getting emblems for his +30, or should I start building up wukong?

brave oriole
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well, imm not very sure of this, but if got Arthur, work on him

restive temple
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@wheat saffron I should use Belinda instead of Shemira because of how early I am ?

south pagoda
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@brave oriole Works more or less... can't pass cuz brutus is left last and butchers my shem in 1 ulti xD

brave oriole
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@south pagoda it's rng with Brutus, he will die in the end, maybe you need to manual use shem ultimate at the end so she will get dura's grace shield at the right time

wheat saffron
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Shemira becomes really good at lv161, so when she becomes Mythic, I think Belinda can do a better job and even Buidling a Mirael/Saveas can be a really good option even better than Belinda at this point @restive temple

south pagoda
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The other issue is the vurk bomb

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If he doesn't die or get cced he reks my team in 1 bomb

brave oriole
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@south pagoda well, you try a few times. more, sometimes Lucius shield, IF he got dura's call, will pop up before of vurk bomb

south pagoda
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Oh he does, but the second bomb wipes the team or Mirael's ulti xD

brave oriole
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maybe i will find one of my ss with this stage hold on. you can also try instead of fawk, arden or athalia a few times

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@south pagoda you can try also Rosa shem, Lucius rowan fawk to pop up faster Brutus shield, but tbh, your issue is the wrong lvl, i mean Lucius should be 220 until you will be able to get shem 240,i would lvl down something till then

mellow moon
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Who should I make mythic?? I don’t really use wilders and I can buy a nemora from the store

north trellis
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Im stuck on last level of chapter 16, any advice

violet pawn
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Would y’all recommend an all ligjtbearers comp for arena or the shemira Nara ferael Rowan lucius comp?

brave oriole
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@north trellis well, maybe try shem Rosa up,

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@violet pawn it's hard to say, shemira is good too, but if you play lb with this team, I would better go like Rosa bel, Lucius rowan fawk.

violet pawn
north trellis
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@brave oriole neither works

violet pawn
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Like this you mean?

north trellis
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I have tried both. With shemira on bottom the little wizard slows her. And with shemira on top ogi confused her by throwing heft

brave oriole
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@north trellis yeah but try with Rosa front of shemira

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@violet pawn yeah, it's better if bel will be coffin by enemy fawk

mint totem
#

Any suggestions to get through this stage?

jovial gate
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@mellow moon don’t make anyone mythic just wait unless you need someone stronger for some reason

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@mint totem I like putting Shem in front of saveas, and use fawkes or Arden as cc instead of Nara

mint totem
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Morvus just annihilated my team lol

pulsar lily
violet igloo
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@pulsar lily your top priority is to get shemira ascended so that you can put her 240 and other heroes 200. Also it's not very useful to run Solise, you already have Shemira as DPS and adding an extra wilder to a mauler ennemy team isn't the best idea. Try :

Grezhul
Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora

Nemora needs to charm Brutus

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Also it's not good idea to make so many heroes to legendary, you're wasting so much fodder. I recommend you read the 1 page quick guide in #classic-questions

pulsar lily
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Yeah, i still got wrecked. Ill work on that Shemira.

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I also learned my lesson with the legendary heroes. I was working on towers and got carried away with trying to ascend every type

violet igloo
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keep buying her in lab, she's your mega priority right now. You could also try a team like this :

Belinda
Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora

pale kettle
winter matrix
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Yes, and reset Thoran, Hogan and Silvina

pale kettle
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I don't have wu Kong rip

winter matrix
#

Shit, I meant Hogan

pale kettle
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So I shouldn't change estrilda for Belinda

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Should I?

simple remnant
slender echo
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Level up just 5 heroes, the 5 highest ranked

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Maybe reset Shem, Izhold, Tasi as they are just Elite, and level up 3 Elite+ like Belinda, Arden and Horgan

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Then as other heroes reach higher ascension levels swap them in as one of the 5 levelling heroes

raven ice
#

Any advice that can help

slender echo
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Over level Saveas, you don't need all heroes the same level

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Keep levelling him as he is your carry until he hits max level or you have to level up the heroes around him to level him further

sage grove
#

Fuck this discord. Yall only help girls and your homies. Fucking mobile game retards.

lime quiver
#

I've literally started playing like 2 weeks ago and people help me without knowing me, it's not their fault you're a crying bitch, they're not here to babysit you

slender echo
#

I've been playing for about 2 months, had loads of help from people here, Cwonk is really helpful if you catch him/her online, there are also 2 others that contribute a lot but can't remember their names off hand.

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Paddy and Xperta, didn't have to scroll far to see them. Just sometimes they don't see because they're offline, or there are so many posts to look through. If you see them replying to people just politely wait for a pause or end of thread and then drop your question in.

pale kettle
still oar
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For your current box it's okay.
For that stage try focus your damage from bottom. Golus has high def so harder to kill. And pick one carry to be overleveled @pale kettle.
iZold also a good early choice as tank/carry

pale kettle
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I already resented izold and put lucius instead

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Reseted*

still oar
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He can replace skreg if skreg wasn't tanky enough since izold has self healing.
But don't worry to much about it.

pale kettle
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Dats why I wasn't sure when I replace izold with lucius

untold tree
untold tree
#

I can usually get to ~champ 80

final hare
supple ruin
calm basalt
still oar
#

Wukong is fine for now @supple ruin

brave oriole
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@calm basalt looks easy

calm basalt
#

do u know waht relics

brave oriole
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call Lucius, grace shem, sword Rosa.. chalice rowan

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usually I'm using like this

calm basalt
#

i hope my elite athalia can hold up

wary atlas
pale kettle
#

Switch deer boi and chain gal

left zephyr
#

Anyone have suggestions on who to level, team to use, what to ascend

pallid condor
#

Well fehreal and isa does but everyone else dont

jovial gate
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@left zephyr stop ascending heroes to legendary without having four of them

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@left zephyr shemira rowan Lucius fawkes tasi/lyca

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With shemira carrying and Shem/Lucius front

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Level Belinda too

left zephyr
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You mean like having four of the same hero?

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This is what I had switched up, should I go back to that other lineup then

jovial gate
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@left zephyr yes if you don’t have four copies of the same hero and you ascend you won’t be able to ascend the ones that do get four copies cause you used all your fodder. And shemira carries better than Belinda IMO, and you get another support instead of a second tank

exotic oar
#

@pallid condor reverse psychology 😂 people usually put their first or second best team against a line-up if they see fawkes

supple ruin
amber rapids
mighty veldt
#

Belinda Rosaline
Rowan
Fawkes Lucius

amber rapids
#

Ty ♡

rose canopy
lunar panther
#

What can i do with this

dreamy mirage
mellow lintel
lunar panther
#

This is my line and its not doing to well

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Help?

brazen tusk
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@mellow lintel I recommend to focus on Lucius. Also if you have the resources, invest in Shem.

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@uncut ermine My suggested line up for you

Brutus
Estrilda
Skreg
Wu Kong
Saveas

If it doesn't help, try to level ur heroes and try again

proven stratus
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@lunar panther I’d pump all lvls to thane, early game he can solo carry u

summer wagon
#

Can someone help me build a defensive challenger tournament team? I am rank 95 somehow and don't want to drop
current team:

limpid quail
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@dreamy mirage try
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Lucius/brutus
Tasi

Charm should be on seirus

boreal drum
empty pulsar
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@boreal drum neither. Since you can't get red emblems, fodder cards are most likely best. Also, dont take heroes L if you cant go L+. You should only be building 5 heroes at a time.

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@mellow lintel

Rosa
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda

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Also, see the above advice for not making A tier heroes L.

vast bobcat
#

Can anyone help me with building best formation for Legends? Through DM to not spam the place

pale kettle
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you're welcome to dm me

onyx basin
pale kettle
#

what are the problems you're facing when you start the battle?

onyx basin
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I die

pale kettle
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well gee thanks, but that doesn't help me help you

onyx basin
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@pale kettle saveas obliterates everyone whos on the frontline, brutus helps him, nemora cant charm him fast enough before he kills frontlines

smoky delta
onyx basin
#

@pale kettle these links dont work for me dude

topaz eagle
pale kettle
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i'll send you screenshots of the lineups when i can @onyx basin

odd python
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@topaz eagle i killed 3 (left ulmus/nemora) using
shem (blade)
grez (drape)
nara (call)
thoran (chalice)
ferael (eye)

fera only+20, shem only+10, lv 292 at the time, i think with your sigs you can probably clear?

topaz eagle
#

Ty

supple ruin
pale kettle
#

you are pretty early in the game, you just need to keep summoning. for wishlist, i would put rowan, bel, and lucius for lightbearer if you plan to play this game in the long haul. i would put lyca, tasi, nemora, and eironn for wilder, and shemira, nara, ferael for graveborn

winter matrix
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Focus on Belinda carry and give her some support like Fawkes, Rowan, Mehira, Arden

So u can do

Mehira
Hogan
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes @supple ruin

supple ruin
#

OK tyy

rose canopy
violet igloo
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@rose canopy put Saveas level 130 and other heroes lvl 90. Put Saveas maximum level, je needs to be +40 levels than other heroes. I'd recommend you also read the guide pinned in #classic-questions quick start guide

Nemora
Saveas
Rowan
Wukong
Lyca

rose canopy
#

Thanks man I’ve read a couple of guides But still have no idea what to build

mossy galleon
#

Any tips please?

timber oxide
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@mossy galleon Saveas and Mirael are way better dmg dealers then Shemira before 160. After 160 I used up to 200 maybe Saveas and Shemira in front line. Try using Nara or Arden against Arden or Morvus. Trial error a bit.

mossy galleon
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@timber oxide I see thanks

timber oxide
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I used lucius alot at elite. At a certain moment you will discover that if he does not gain ascension levels or is kept alive with support he will no longer be able to cast his shield. The moment Lucius start to die too frequent before he can cast his shield it is best to replace him with some other tank or something that can survive at front line.

sharp veldt
#

What should I use for monster hunt ? Team composition.

winter matrix
#

Show heroes

sharp veldt
#

How to put ss here

winter matrix
#

Do u have a Warek/Baden?

#

Wrizz

Rosaline
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Estrilda

Soren

Baden/Warek
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Rosaline

sharp veldt
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Ah no Baden atm

winter matrix
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Warek?

slender echo
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@winter matrix could you possibly give me some advice to set 3 pvp defense teams?

dusk bane
sharp veldt
winter matrix
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Sure, post a pic @slender echo

sharp veldt
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This is all I have

sharp veldt
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I am using Bel, estr, mehira, Rosa

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And talene

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My damage is 17 mil atm

winter matrix
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Focus on 2 good teams so u can do

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca

Rosaline
Shemira
Fawkes
Warek
Athalia

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@sharp veldt soren

Rosaline
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Wukong

slender echo
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Thanks, I'll try them. Will they work offensively too?

sharp veldt
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Thanks@cowank

winter matrix
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You can also replace Warek for Grezhul. And yea they can work for offence @slender echo

slender echo
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Thanks again. Your advice has been invaluable getting me as far as I am, lol

sharp veldt
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I am at 13-24 now, can I clear this stage with what I have atm

winter matrix
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Show stage

sharp veldt
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Tried eat for meh but didn't work

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Est

winter matrix
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Maybe

Rosaline
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi?

sharp veldt
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I have tasi but it's only e atm

winter matrix
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Try

sharp veldt
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I will try, Thanks for advice,

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Looks difficult, gave it a try but they were wiped out pretty fast

slender echo
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@winter matrix with my roster am I best pulling LB with the 20 faction scrolls I just got for clearing chapter 19?

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I hear Shemira drops off round about now and Belinda becomes a decent carry?

winter matrix
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Not yet. Shem falls off at around ch25, and yea u can do LB

slender echo
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Oh, that's good news, somewhere I read or heard 20 I thought, and I'm short on L+ fodder for my Belinda, I was getting ready for defeat, lol

rigid dew
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Is that a good team?
Rosaline
Rowan
Shem
Talane
Lucius

floral narwhal
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Should I Thoran the shit out of this (can borrow him tomorrow)

pale kettle
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Or should I replace skerg with izold

pale kettle
umbral wraith
pale kettle
dark current
unborn mason
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would that comp work? without lyca? i would like to build a comp with wu kong +30 for challenger. @winter matrix

zinc stump
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@pale kettle if you have Alathia copy swap Shem for Alathia and put her against Fawkes to negate his coffin

pale kettle
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Doesnt help, somehow fawkes still copys Belinda, i will try to borrow a better athalia tomorrow

pine echo
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Hey guys, what are the best heros that I can team up with isabella at 161?

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It would be helpful if you can suggest a good lineup

past light
proven willow
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is there any tips for beginner?

pale kettle
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@past light i dont think your team need a change your levels are just to low😉

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Also search @jaunty edge at reddit

proven willow
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ok noted

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i have nemora and rosaline, can i use both of them toegther?

pale kettle
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Yeah nemora will be great for PoT, lab and regular campaign , same counts for rosaline😉

proven willow
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i felt like a need a good tanker and mage now

pale kettle
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Nvrmind

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Dont*

wheat saffron
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Put Rowan in the center, Shem on 2 instead of Brutus and Rosaline behind her on 5 @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Nah it worked with that form....

wheat saffron
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You still have good levels

pale kettle
wheat saffron
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Try out each stage on your own before sending here, dont want to send then pass immediately @pale kettle

pale kettle
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@wheat saffron yeah i know lol, first with both tried 3 times but it failed and right after i send it and tried again it worked so sorry

wheat saffron
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I'd try Rigby Shem frontline and Fawkes Rowan Rosaline in the back, if the coffin isnt helping you maybe try Nara on Arden @pale kettle

pale kettle
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I know its kinda annoyimg

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@wheat saffron ill try that thx

patent moth
shadow onyx
#

Any hope?

inland temple
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My hope was ascended shem 220 lvl to cary me to 21 chapter

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@shadow onyx

still oar
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Try
Rosa

Belinda
Nemora
Rowan
Lucius.
Put good boots on nemora and charm ferael first. If ferael didn't get charmed restart the fight @shadow onyx

pale kettle
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What would be the best line up for soren with my current heroes?

still oar
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Rosa on whom? Maybe
Baden

Luc
Rowan
Shem
Rosa @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Rosa is on shem as of now and i use shem rosa rowan luc nem and i get 161m ish

still oar
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Then try the line up above. With baden around you should net a lil bit more. You can also try lorsan for baden if you confident with your shield. But try with baden first and give him eye

pale kettle
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Okok i will get baden a shot! Thank you! @still oar

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I gained around 100m more! 👍

plush zodiac
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Who to use for this? Before I get told about the amount of L’s I’ve made, I am very aware and it was a very big mistake

still oar
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Lol it's cool man. We all made mistake.
Let's see. Bottom has worst offense. We can try 2 strats, clear top and tank bottom or trigger brutus' last gasp as fast as we can. Let's see
Lucius

Belinda
Rowan
Brutus
Fawkes.
Try manual fawkes. I assume fawkes coffins brutus. In that case also try
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Belinda @plush zodiac

plush zodiac
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@still oar thanks, I’ll give them a shot and let you know which one worked!

still oar
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👍

plush zodiac
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@still oar neither worked, it’s most likely my gear as I don’t have enough gold/gear to enhance them

still oar
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How did it go? Who's confined? And who's most troubling?

plush zodiac
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Beldina and hogan are being stubborn and rowan and fawkes just drop off instantly @still oar

still oar
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Do you have good boots on lyca? Then try
Belinda

Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Nemora.
Charm brutus so he won't debuff your team with roar. If you can kill the top tahgn it's just a matter of rng.
Try call either on rowan or nemora. Eye on Belinda, grace on lyca and blade on brutus @plush zodiac

trail stone
still oar
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If fawkes can dodge saveas try
Saveas

Lyca
Arden
Fawkes
Nemora.
Arden roots ankhira and nemora charm saveas @trail stone

trail stone
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Well, it didn't work like expected, Hawkes died soon, Nemora Charmed the Centaur guy, I didn't even see who was rooted by Arden, Lyca died soon too, then Arden died and Saveas killed 2 guys before that I don't even know how, then killed the other three. Thank you, it worked 😄

plush zodiac
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@still oar sweet, that one worked for me, took a couple of attempts due to rng but got the W, thanks!

still oar
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👍 👍

plush zodiac
jovial gate
dim grove
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Is there a list of the best tanks for each faction?

still oar
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Let's see
Saveas

Lyca
Nemora
Talene
Tasi
--++--
Rosa

Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
--++--
And kinda throw away 3rd
Shem
Thoran
Arden
Ulmus
Silvina
For now until you have mythic Shem @jovial gate

dim grove
still oar
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Idk about such a list @dim grove.
Maybe
Lb: lucius Hendricks and rowan and fawkes with dodge
Mauler: brutus, skreg and occasionally warek
Wilder : ulmus post ult, gorvo and kaz with her skill Dodge and gear dodge. Lyca, eironn and tasi can be dodge tank and off tank
Gb: thoran grezhul and izold. With Shem when ult but she can't keep up later.
Hypo: mezoth and probably mehira. Ezzih a lil bit so so unless cc happens.
Celestial: orthos and Talene maybe wukong too since his signature actually top def. TBH twins, and athalia are fine in front too
Dimensional : we only have Arthur so he is ig

small parcel
still oar
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Oh beep me. I am not expert in PvP since lacking of LC experience. Maybe
Lyca

Brutus
Eironn
Tasi
Ulmus
--++--
Ezzih
Shem
Mehira
nemora
Ferael
--++--
Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Fawkes
Belinda
3rd is defensive team with Rosa+lucius spamming ults and fawkes and Belinda nipping.
2nd I am not really sure. Just trying to take advantage of hypo buffs and shemira's ult.
Ist is kinda burst with eironn and brutus's roar. Maybe swap ulmus and nemora from 1st and second

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@dim grove

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I hope you can understand that lol

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161 Shem @small parcel

small parcel
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ok

dim grove
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Shem for sure imo. @small parcel

pale kettle
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I started yesterday. I don’t know how to format this but I have no clue how to make a team, so any advice for a team to pass floor 55 of Kings Tower would be appreciated.

dim grove
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@pale kettle you need to establish a carry. As you don’t have one right now. Focus on building saveas for now

pale kettle
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Aw so i can’t have wukong be my Carry?

dim grove
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If you wanna spend $$$$ go for it. Celestial sand hypogenes are super rare and generally require a lot of $$$ to upkeep. Not for F2P

pale kettle
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Alright, so should i just reset wuk and put all the exp into Saveas?

dim grove
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I would put wukong aside for now yeah. Work on saveas get him to legendary+

pale kettle
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Makes sense, should I aim to have a team where they are all the same faction?

small parcel
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probably level up your other dudes a bit too tbh

dim grove
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That I wouldn’t worry to much about for now you’re way to early.

pale kettle
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Okay. If I’m too early to worry about the faction, what are other factors I should look for instead for a good team comp?

dim grove
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For now you just started yesterday. Don’t ignore leveling your blues. And upgrading your blue heroes while they can only max out at 160. And legendary + that’s fine cause later you can use them at L+ to feed better heroes. Right now level saveas. Arden Belinda tasi and gorvo. But put emphasis on Saveas.

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Ascend saveas to L+ and get him to 160. Do the same with Arden those two are really good heroes for where you are right now and they’ll carry you for a LONG while. Probably till chapter 12 or so

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MAYBE 13-14 if you can get lucky with some pulls. But just relax for now you’re super early.

pale kettle
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Okay thanks a lot!

dim grove
#

Messaged you directly as well

placid egret
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What are some good teammates for Lucius Nara Shemira?

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Twins?

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Thoran? Idk

steady imp
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Good Evening. Need some@help with line up. Don’t geht through This

umbral wraith
jovial gate
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Thanks @still oar

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@placid egret Rowan Rosaline Arden tasi... Shem goes in front so just more supports

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@steady imp try dropping nemora for fawkes or Arden, if you go fawkes maybe Lucius over Brutus for a faction bonus

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@umbral wraith a good khasos placed front might do well with the axe throw

drowsy vapor
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This team counters my Shemira it's impossible to beat it

supple ruin
visual bramble
winter shale
jovial gate
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@supple ruin shemira is best in front, dunno your heroes but instead of Brutus and Belinda you want other supports. Belinda is okay I guess but Rosa and Rowan better

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@visual bramble Arden instead of saveas for one, saveas is no good since belinda is your carry

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Or Rosaline

grave minnow
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Can Saveas be frontline?

jovial gate
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@winter shale try shemira front bottom and talene front top, and see if tasi, Arden, Rosaline, etc do well as supports

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@grave minnow yes if he is your carry. Depends on who’s against him tho

supple condor
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could probably have gwyneth backrow snipe arden to stun? dunno if that would help

winter shale
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Ok

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Do i put shem w kaz?

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Nvm dw

pale kettle
winter shale
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Damage isbt enough

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I need atleast 2 mythic heroes

pale kettle
winter shale
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@jovial gate

jovial gate
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Try belinda or gwyn behind Shem bottom then

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Tasi or Arden top see how it goes

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@pale kettle tasi lucius front, saveas lyca nemora back. Get fawkes in crystal and maybe Belinda, take out the grave mage and the wilder tank and lb third tank

winter shale
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Shem gets killed so quickly

pale kettle
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@jovial gate will do

winter shale
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@jovial gate

jovial gate
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The first two lines right there were @winter shale

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Oh I see

winter shale
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Im confused

jovial gate
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Sorry I didn’t see that last message. Try Rosaline in front of Shem, put Shem bottom and gwyn mid

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Also I’m not the most experienced here just doing my best to help lol

river sorrel
winter shale
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Where do i put shem left or right in the bottom row

jovial gate
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@river sorrel if you can survive a khasos ace throw, try Arden instead of fawkes.
@winter shale left is my suggestion if dying too fast

river sorrel
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Sadly Arden just dies after one axe throw :/

jovial gate
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Arden bottom, so he doesn’t get hit

crude hinge
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i haven’t played in a while, with my heroes, what lineup should i use for arena, and what lineups to use for challenger tournament?

jovial gate
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Rowan should have a chance or at least leave his cart there

winter shale
jovial gate
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@crude hinge my guess is lightbearers with athalia and Shem with farael Nara and swords dude, maybe Baden? And then an eironn wilder team? Just my thoughts at first glance

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I was thinking shemira swapped with Rowan and talene swapped Rosa. Try both

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I’m in chap16 myself lol, I would have everyone at 141 not two at 180. I’m working on getting everyone to 160 so I can put Shem 181

winter shale
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Got a bot further now but ogi just flings shem

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And when i tried switching shem w rowan game tells me i need a stronger tean

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Shem gets killed so easily because ogi uses a shield

jovial gate
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Well ask when someone better than me is around then, sorry

crude hinge
river sorrel
jovial gate
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Nice! Does team 2 have enough damage @crude hinge ? And I’m sure there’s a better team one but I’m not that experienced

crude hinge
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@jovial gate kind of lmao, guess i need to wait for someone else to help, but thx a lot bro 😘

pale kettle
grave minnow
still oar
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Yes. Level your saveas up more @grave minnow.
Saveas

Lyca
Rowan
Tasi
Safiya/nemora
Probably better @grave minnow

grave minnow
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Wow that made a huge difference. Saveas does so much damage. Thanks for the tips!

robust forum
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Is it best to work on my Baden, since I have all the copies I need to Ascend him, or is it more worth my time to build someone else, like Thoran?

glacial wagon
final meteor
polar ice
left zephyr
left zephyr
slim imp
#

who would be best to match with fawkes?

hollow blade
brittle summit
supple ruin
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Mirael*

still oar
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Wukong. He can create diversion. And use him while you still can. Adding safiya is also good idea

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Try
Belinda

rowan
Rosa
Lucius
Tasi

@brittle summit. Call maybe on lucius

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Blade Rosa and eye Belinda

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Try
Tasi

Shemira
Rowan
Eironn
Lucius
Rng it so eironn dodges and brutus doesn't roar. Eironn eye or grace. Shem blade or call. Rowan call or grace. Tasi eye if eye or blade depends on which one is free . Lucius drape @hollow blade

gilded jewel
still oar
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You either need to control Arden or pop a shield here @gilded jewel.
Can you resonate Arden. E or r is fine as long as he has good boots to root Arden and kaz first and try
Arden

Shem
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi or nemora to charm ogi

cloud fossil
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how do I beat 15-40

gilded jewel
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@still oar arden is resonated, also fawkes will take their arden i tested it

still oar
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It's not just for Arden bit also for kaz. Shemira doesn't stand a chance against kaz without ult. You can also try to charm Arden but that will require bigger rng

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Control ferael don't let her cc your team. You can charm him or combination of Rosa rowan and fawkes to counter his spirits @cloud fossil

scenic verge
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Any ideas on this stage? I might just have to afk and level

rose canopy
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  1. Should I sacrifice eironn to ascend nemora
  2. Should I focus on Shemira now
  3. General PVE and labyrinth advice
cloud fossil
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dont sacrifice Eironn ever

still oar
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  1. No. Both eironn and nemora are essential.
  2. Yes, build her but you should use saveas as carry since saveas is legendary while Shem is elite.
  3. Campaign lyca wukong saveas rowan nemora. I think that team will do for labyrinth but don't try hard mode yet @rose canopy
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Rosa lucius belinda rowan Arden. Focus on Belinda first @scenic verge

proven stratus
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@scenic verge have u tried saveas in pos 1?

lunar sky
timber oxide
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@lunar sky choose one faction that you use faction scrolls for --use 2 shops for 2 different other factions -- fodder appears evenly -- I would build shemira as you can buy shop copies -- I would build belinda from the other shop as you can also buy some copies --- I would use wilder faction scrolls --- in wilders and maulers I would only build mythic and beyond the moment you have 8 copies or it is your next hero you are going to buy from shop

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Making an elite+ from 2 the same elites will save you space in your backpack. I always combine rares to rare+ the moment I can. I only go from rare+ to elite+ the moment I have 6 rare+ and 2 of those 6 are the same.

lunar sky
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@timber oxide thank you for the advice

hidden frigate
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These are my top people what would be a good team?

timber oxide
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I would reset xp from thane and level saveas. The moment saveas becomes 141 he can dps and be placed front line up to 180 a 200. I would use arden nemore lyca saveas and as 5th either extra dps like mirael or belinda, extra front like lucius brutus hendrik hogan, extra support like ezizh numisu nara athalia

lunar drum
#

Of the heroes I have here what would you recommend for the mauler tower?

final star
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Tidus Brutus Atandra are top tier

lunar drum
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Of course Brutus is

small acorn
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@lunar drum use your strongest?? You dont have much to choose from.

However for future planning the best heros are safiya, khasos, brutus as your core maulers

old ore
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Recently i got 5.240 as f2p. I want to change my Wrizz and Soren lineup, could you recommend me the best current lineup from my heroes for both of them? Much appreciated

timber oxide
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Belinda Rosa front lorsan rowan twins back --- I did 100 000 000 + damage with those 5 and 0 sig unlocked while Bel M+ and lorsan rowan twins rosa elite or elite+ --- It would not surprise me that with that team you can too 300m+ at Wrizz and 100m+ at Soren

old ore
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@timber oxide this is wrizz or soren?

timber oxide
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both

old ore
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My lorsan is very weak though

timber oxide
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Does not matter. It is the synergy that will blow all away.

old ore
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I already get 100m at both wr and sor. Let's hope this pushes it

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I got 36m soren lmao

timber oxide
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I use blade Belinda --- Eye Rosa --- Call Rowan --- Grace twins and convinction lorsan. When total power of each char is near 275k I think, they start to survive long enough.

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Rosa has to follow belinda

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Also, you can pauze and leave without using up an attempt ...

scenic verge
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I can't seem to take out Mirael with my current team... any suggestions on how I can get enough CC and pass this stage

limpid quail
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@scenic verge maybe switch to Belinda instead of saveas, you can make her 120 and get a faction bonus

scenic verge
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How would I get her to 120?

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I don't have enough copies to ascend any of my heroes

limpid quail
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Remove her from the crystal and reset saveas. She is already elite+ to get to 120

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You just need the ressources

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Can also try this lineup then
Arden/estrilda
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Rosaline

scenic verge
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Maybe I was confused on something, I thought to move them past 100+ you have to ascend them to legendary because I can't get saveas to 101

past geode
dark current
plush zodiac
patent moth
dark current
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I've seen this lineup a lot, gonna try but my lb sucks

final star
plush zodiac
dark current
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@patent moth not working ulricry thanks anyways

past geode
patent moth
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@dark current it took some time, but it work for meogifrown

dark current
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My belinda is only A +10, and her ult clearly dealt no damage ulricry

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Oh but.....your ss is 27-53 HoganLUL

patent moth
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@plush zodiac reset bel and rise her to 120

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@dark current damn didnt realized it lol

dark current
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Rip

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The problem is that rosa follows rowan and not belinda, so i asked for a merc belinda but my rowan is only e ulricry

smoky delta
south pagoda
gilded jewel
#

Any suggestions?

pseudo pike
muted pulsar
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Ascend Belinda to mythic?

pseudo pike
#

In what Team in those I have, should I run m belinda then?

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And I can't really go mythic belinda rn

gilded jewel
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@pseudo pike saveas is the best early game carry imo by far

pseudo pike
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@gilded jewel I can't seem to pull enough heroes to get ascend him

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It's probably more likely i get enough mirael's / belinda's to sufficiently ascend them than saveas

gilded jewel
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why is that

pseudo pike
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  • my team sucks and Im looking for advice to rearrange
gilded jewel
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I wish u gave more info like what chapter ur on

pseudo pike
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9-7

gilded jewel
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Like what are u stuck on currently if u send a pic it will help me suggest a general team

pseudo pike
gilded jewel
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Does ur brutus have invincibility yet? Also just for that stage id move nemora to back middle and sav to the top tank spot

pseudo pike
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Well, brutus unlocks that at level 61, so yes, if you mean that

gilded jewel
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u can always try

Nemora facing the highest cc or dmg enemy

Talene and tasi in back

Saveas away from cc enemy and brutus or gorvo in other slot

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With that small of a difference in power u should pass that stage easily

pseudo pike
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nemora back-top and the rest stays i guess?

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Also, I could level up alot of heroes since i kinda save up for a eventual ascendency

gilded jewel
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I would put nemora on ira

gilded jewel
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Its like people dont even try to move units before spamming this chat... @calm nova swap fawkes and rosa and shemira and lucius

calm nova
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I did

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Didn't work

mossy galleon
gilded jewel
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@calm nova what was the issue and how close was it

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@mossy galleon maybe try to nara pull him, but vedan is really annoying for shemira

calm nova
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@gilded jewel it's fine, I beat it with another team

mossy galleon
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@gilded jeweli tried.. But not enuff burst for him.. Even tried serius to tank him but no

gilded jewel
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Maybe try lucius up front and tosa in back

mossy galleon
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The thing is.. Its not even close.. Doesn't matter how many times I tried.. Never close

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I tried that too.. 4 hrs trying and no hope.. So anything to do aside waiting to lvl up?

brave oriole
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@mossy galleon not sure, but. maybe put Cecilia front and Lucius back of her

gilded jewel
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The team strength diff is pretty massive so might just have to afk

mossy galleon
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@brave oriole tried that too

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That's kinda my only option atm @gilded jewel feelsbad

brave oriole
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there's no point of using shem, if Rosa follows Cecilia. so. maybe try fawk instead of shem and dunno, use shem later

mossy galleon
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Rosa follows shemira

gilded jewel
brave oriole
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the trick with Vedan, it's to not dps on him, i would personally try this setup, shem Rosa, rowan Cecilia Lucius

mossy galleon
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@gilded jewel lol

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@brave oriole at what set up?

brave oriole
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if you remove your heroes from the battlefield you will see 12345,thats the order I've said

mossy galleon
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I tried it.. Think I'll just wait to lvl up ☹️

brave oriole
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@gilded jewel you did a little wrong with the lvls, get back rowan to 180 and then get everyone 180,and push shem to 220 first. then you can lvl rowan

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@mossy galleon how you tried, let me see your screen

gilded jewel
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@brave oriole reason its like that is because i dont have the dust yet for shem to 201

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Once i have the dust im going to reset rowan to 180 then level her

brave oriole
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@gilded jewelwhat's you others heroes, you need an athalia nara for arden

gilded jewel
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fawkes locks arden so ive been doin that, issue is all my frontline melts

Brutus has been working in one slot but no other hero lives long enough

brave oriole
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do you have a rosaline?

gilded jewel
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i do only e+ currently tho

brave oriole
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@gilded jewel she's fine even e, I would try her instead of lyca, and I think that rowan can stay middle easy, this its why estrilda dies

gilded jewel
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@brave oriole nah the estrilda is only 180 is why shes getting smashed, i do like the rosa idea tho

brave oriole
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@gilded jewel she's dying anyway, even if higher lvl 😊 she's more an off tank, works better Backline

gilded jewel
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The real issue is out of my units i need one that can hold frontline for longer than like 2 seconds (along w brutus)

brave oriole
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well, try Rosa shem, estrilda rowan fawk

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estrilda won't die insta if back of Rosa, dunno if Rosa can move fast enough to shem, put dura's call on her, and grace in shem

gilded jewel
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Even w rosa shemira doesnt last long enough against either front

Maybe brutus rosa front

brave oriole
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mm try, Brutus Rosa, fawk rowan shem

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@gilded jewelbut, if think that estrilda would be better on 200 than rowan, to have a strong Frontline, else, you have to use rowan front, so try this too, shem rowan, Rosa fawk estrilda. if rowan can hold, will be okay

gilded jewel
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Shem just gettin blown up by kaz or ogi

Tryin out rowan rosa front now and rowan is barely getting ult off but looking maybe possible if i tweak a bit

brave oriole
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with estrilda back of him, she should get Ira hits after a sec

gilded jewel
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Shem cant be in either front spot at her current lvl on this stage

brave oriole
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mm, try Rosa shem , Lucius rowan fawk

gilded jewel
brave oriole
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maybe Lucius helps you more than estrilda even elite

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@gilded jewelit's not good, maybe swap estrilda with fawk

gilded jewel
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Been getting really close actually, gonna maybe swap rosa for brutus

brave oriole
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@gilded jeweltry Lucius instead. of estrilda, maybe he can ultimate

gilded jewel
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Holy moly @brave oriole i swapped the fawkes and shem and finally won after some crazy rng haha ty for ur help

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also swapped rosa for brutus ^

brave oriole
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keep dura's grace on shem, and rowan if keep him. front use dura's callimokbrutus

gilded jewel
clear spade
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Need help building a line up with these heroes, i’m f2p this is my 2nd account

gilded jewel
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@clear spade pick a carry to overlevel dont do sav and belinda

clear spade
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Arden or mirael??

west drum
sullen aspen
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Little help? Also got fawkes ascended

hollow blade
brave oriole
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@sullen aspen try fawk instead of Cecilia, can't remember exactly but ive played like rowan Lucius fawk bel Rosa, Rosa have to follow bel

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signal lintel
river sorrel
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Does anyone have some advice for my teams for the legends challenger tournament? Should I break up my team 1 since it’s too powerful?

brave oriole
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@signal lintel I would replace Brutus with rosa, try Rosa shem, Lucius rowan fawk, it might take a few tries cuz of nemora charms, but will be okay. maybe call on Lucius and grace shem, eye Rosa

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Got it, will try it out. Thank you

brave oriole
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@signal lintel and maybe arden would work good instead of fawk, try this too

sharp bear
ornate totem
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@sharp bear
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Rosalna
When you get arden or fawkes use then in some stages instead of rosa or Brutus

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ornate totem
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@sharp bear olso start to build shemira

sharp bear
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Ok ty

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@frosty axle what help go you need??

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Floor 200 GB I can’t get anywhere close, I’ve coped the winning lineup from multiple people and I can’t get anywhere close to beating this, I can’t even beat a single enemy, I’ve tried no gear/ full T2 GB set in thoran to see if I can cheese the bottom with no luck either way