#lineup-help

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spare girder
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23-10... Hmmm send the screenshot of ur heroes

brave oriole
quiet barn
brave oriole
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@quiet barnmaybe try lyca or fawk instead of arden, and lower rowan defense to make silvina jump on Rosa. also, Lucius down should be a better place, put dura's call on him

spare girder
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Tbh don't think you can pass chap 22 without 240 Shemira

quiet barn
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@brave oriole won't lowering his defense make silvina jump him instead?

dreamy mirage
brave oriole
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@quiet barnyeah my bad, I've meant Rosa πŸ˜‚

quiet barn
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He Jumps Rosa already haha. Problem is tasi perma cc'ing shem

spare girder
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@dreamy mirage

Rosaline
Lucius
Gwyneth
Brutus
Lyca

Should do it I guess. Feel free to swap Brutus and Lucius.

split bolt
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Any tips? I've been stuck for a while. Guess my issue is regarding tanks, thinking of building a Hogan untill get more copies of luc

woven lichen
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@split bolt you might benefit from having Mirael being the highest level too... 5 faction bonus and she will shield the front... otherwise another tank would help like Hogan or Brutus

split bolt
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@woven lichen Ok thanks, ill try. However i think the magic dmg is not the problem, i just die of like 1 hit from golus / morvus. I have no tank whatsoever on the lineup, it sucks

woven lichen
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@split bolt add Brutus... he can take the shot and stay invulnerable for awhile

lime quiver
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It sucks because I literally can't progress further, I'm stuck at the tower too and i just wait some hours, level up someone, try to beat it, if not, I repeat the process

split bolt
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for the first like 5 chapters you can join a guild, max a union and get the free wukong (the monkey one on events tab), just put all levels on him and he will carry you

odd python
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you have 13 heroes levelled up manually, you should use the resonating crystal and only have 5 leveled up. please go read some pinned guides in #classic-questions or smth

lime quiver
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@split bolt yeah I've seen that i have to join preferable a lvl 5 guild, but I'm just seeing lvl 2 ones

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@odd python thanks, I'll give a look, idk what resonating crystal is but I keep seeing those words everywhere

odd python
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go to the city its like right side middle of the screen

split bolt
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the crystal is available after like ch4, he is still in ch3

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but yes, I agree, only 5 heros should be leveled

lime quiver
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So should I keep leveling those 5 until they beat them? Or should I aim to do another lineup with the other heroes I've got? With my actual lineup the best I can do is to kill 2/5

west steeple
teal glade
west steeple
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Hogan seems to underperform. Then fawkes and Belinda crumble. Luc and shemira seem to be tanky

teal glade
west steeple
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Thought about buying nemora from the arcane lab store

west aurora
amber jay
strange sparrow
timid sparrow
pale kettle
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Dont make heroes legendary unless you can get them to mythic immediately @timid sparrow

timid sparrow
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Made that mistake before. Not doing it anymore lol

pale kettle
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What do you need suggestions for specifically?

timid sparrow
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Skirath was just to get Belinda up levels though

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As I hit chapter 12, my lineup doesn't seem to work anymore. So I'm attempting to get a better line up for it

sonic lily
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What's the best champ to get from the store for my first 45k lab points? I only have Wu Kong so far

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Also new in the server- highest level is 61

rugged niche
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shemira foist

sonic lily
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Ty

lost swift
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Help pls, going insane. 24-60

pale kettle
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I have a question. I’m doing the Divine Realm level in peaks of time and I see two different buttons to press. Should I go for blue or green? Also, what is the best lineup for the Divine Realm Level?

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I should keep using fawkes brutus rowan shemira rosaline until I summon lucius right?

split peak
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@lost swift use belinda and brutus get rid of rowan and get a mercenary rosa also get rid of shem

nocturne furnace
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@pale kettle you have to do it twice, one all green and one all blue i think, u can just look up a youtube video

rocky crescent
worthy bane
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I'd try for Tasi Athalia Fera Rowan Lyca, dodge end to stop Saveas spears, can move Rowan and Athalia. Otherwise Eironn Lyca Fera Athalia Tasi, Eironn can also fit in 4

rocky crescent
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I’ll try that and see if they can dodge enough to survive the mauler one shot crits

torpid crag
rocky crescent
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@torpid crag I’m so puzzled on how that worked , and now I want to see if I can borrow a Brutus from someone

torpid crag
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Can probably try your mythic one. Not like Brutus played a big role there

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But maybe khasos is good. Who knows KazThonk

idle oriole
torpid crag
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Were the screens even taken the same day? Lol. That sneaky grezul went ascended and gained 20 levels

idle oriole
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Haha yea I just ascended him earlier

rocky crescent
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Jdizz it actually works, but my Brutus dies to quick to make it a gutenteed win

torpid crag
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Curious if you can clear it without a healer there. 1. Grezul 2. Shemira 3. Ferael 4. Fawkes 5. Rosaline

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@rocky crescent aw that's a shame lol

rocky crescent
torpid crag
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Oh right, athalia, maybe swap Rosaline and Fawkes position if your gear sucks

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Lol had a lot of people clear ch 25 before t2 gear was released. The comps get even wierder

idle oriole
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@torpid crag ok will give it a shot thanks

winter matrix
idle oriole
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@winter matrix will check that out as well but my Lucius is quite weak and I can't merc

ornate totem
mighty veldt
teal glade
pale kettle
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Isnt chalice better on grez?

covert osprey
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Who does your thoran banish @teal glade ?

Also you might need to merc a better nara with call.

teal glade
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Thoran procs on ira. I've had a few tries with my nara not being strong or ulting where she came close to dying where it felt like it she dies i win

covert osprey
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You might need to merc nara with call.
Then your ferael probably needs eye or call so he can scare seirus before he can use his aoe attack.
If you put call on ferael, eye on shemira and vice versa

teal glade
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I'll try out eye in shemira. Threw call on ferael thinking the same and just gave grace back to grez. I'll try the eye for now till I can get a better nara

spare girder
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@ornate totem have you tried to Thoran πŸ§€ it?

covert osprey
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Yep. Nara is mostly the key hero in these stages to keep tasi locked in.

teal glade
covert osprey
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This process would kill ira faster , but tasi will end up banishing your most best hero

teal glade
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Ahhh I see. That's why people nara jn the mid. Does that mean the taunt can be dodged?

covert osprey
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Yep. If you see a tasi, always try to nara it. Taunt ?

teal glade
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Ezizh taunting the furthest enemy

covert osprey
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Yes it can be cancelled if ferael scares him. That’s why you need to rerun it till ferael possibly scares the front two heroes

spare girder
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@ornate totem

Rowan/Lyca
Kelthur
Thoran
Eironn
Lorsan

Should be able to cheese that stage for you.

teal glade
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Ooo kk. Love me a good old rng spam reset stage 😫

covert osprey
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Yes any stage with wilders and Ezizh is cancer in gb tower

teal glade
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Yea between nemora tasi and ezizh my shemira may as well be a dead slot in 99% of tries rofl

covert osprey
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best is to wait a merc a good nara i hope.

teal glade
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Yea I'll leave it for tomorrow and hopefully this guy comes on and tosses me his +20. Wont have call but itll be way more useful than the one I have. If not I'll have to wait for sunday whe mmercs reset and have a guilty out his aside

autumn crown
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Any help for a good lineup for chapter 8-12?

ornate totem
stray pine
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Move Rowan up to Brutus , and Belinda to 4 . Make sure Belinda double ult into Fawkes dispell @ornate totem

cobalt radish
limpid quail
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@cobalt radish in this occassion, yes. because she is your carry and level capped. normally you should wait until you can make the heroes L+ straight away

cobalt radish
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cool, thanks!

north siren
gentle spade
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Any help you can give me?

heady siren
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@gentle spade Yes! Swap Shemira for Lyca, make sure that enemy Silvina targets Rosaline by decreasing her defense rating, so she will be able to run from Belinda through Mehira

gentle spade
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Also is eatrilda any good in this comp? Got her to e+ and im thinking on lvling her so i can be able to pass the 140 mark later

violet igloo
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Hi @north siren, so as you said the way you ascended isn't great but don't worry that much, it's just that it's not optimal but in the long run it won't matter that much. Your absolute priority is to save all your Graveborn fodder for Shemira and to continue buying Shemira in lab shop. Right now, your DPS carry will be Safiya. You always need your DPS carry to be 20 to 40 levels higher than other heroes (if you haven't done it yet, read the 1 page quick guide pinned in #classic-questions ). So, with that in mind, put Your Safiya level 160/170 and other heroes level 120/130. Then you can do :

Safiya
Lucius
Rowan/Belinda
Brutus
Rosa/Belinda

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The problem is that Rosa+Safiya isn't the best combo in the world, since Safiya spends so much time channeling her ult, but it's better than nothing.

north siren
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@violet igloo thank you very much 😁

violet igloo
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@gentle spade if you haven't done it yet, read the 1 page guide pinned in #classic-questions, try not to ascend heroes to Legendary (except Shemira) until you can put them to L+ straight after. Be patient and plan ahead for ascending heroes. Your priority is to put Shemira to Legendary. Instead, you can use Belinda since you have put her to Legendary. Put Belinda to level 140, and other heroes to level 100. Then you can do :

Belinda
Hogan
Rosa
Brutus
Lyca

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@north siren your welcome, read the guide it'll help you a lot πŸ˜‰ and don't hesitate to ask more questions

gentle spade
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@violet igloo i dont have hero dust yet to put her to 121 and also i thought u shouldnt put heroes to L instead of directly to L+ cause you could use them for fodder

violet igloo
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yes, exactly. That why you shouldn't have put Belinda to L.

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even if you reset other heroes to level 100, you can't put her past 121 ?

visual bramble
stray pine
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Nemora out , safiya top side and rowan on 4 @visual bramble

still ivy
tidal zodiac
stray pine
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Fawkes
Brutus
Gwyn
Arthur
Belinda @still ivy

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Move the Nemora out for the Rowan @tidal zodiac

gentle spade
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@violet igloo but when in hell am i going to fodder bel

violet igloo
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@gentle spade you don't fodder belinda, she's not a fodder hero.

visual bramble
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@stray pine i cant defeat saveas 1vs1 😩

violet igloo
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Heroes that you can fodder are the ones that you open in blue in packs (non-ascended tier heroes)

still ivy
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Nope didn't work @stray pine

gentle spade
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Then my thought was she would never be a problem to be L if im not fodder her

stray pine
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Can move safiya out for arden cc @visual bramble

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Whats the problem? @still ivy

violet igloo
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@gentle spade the thing is, it's best to WAIT until you can put her L. Because there is a chance that you might not open more copies of her in a very very long time and she will be stuck in L for a long time. Then you will have lots of heroes stuck in legendary. Have you read the 1 page guide ?

still ivy
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Tasi stops them from attacking and athalia takes them out

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@stray pine

visual bramble
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@stray pine the thing is i cant wipe the enemies ASAP, while they 1 / 2 shotted my team. So its always going to saveas VS saveas

stray pine
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Try again but let Gwyn top , Rosa mid replacing Belinda and Fawkes on 5 @still ivy

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Since you have the fodder , you can just ascend Belinda to L+ . Gear her with same strat

Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Skreg
Belinda

visual bramble
still ivy
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@stray pine it was closer but seirus took them out after they beat tasi

stray pine
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Keep trying till you win i guess @still ivy you can try letting Arthur tank the Athalia but Brutus rid Tasi’s evasion and can tank

Prob try again with

Rosaline
Brutus
Gwyn
Arthur
Fawkes

still ivy
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That almost worked it left Thalia against Arthur but he was low hp and died @stray pine

pale kettle
stray pine
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Keep trying , you’ll get there @still ivy

limpid quail
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@pale kettle grezhul/warek, shemira, rosa, rowan, belinda

ornate totem
wide seal
covert osprey
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Fawkes
-Rowan
Gwyneth
-Rosaline
Lucius

topaz pumice
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Wo should i use in my main lineup?

near plover
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What’s the best Soren team

autumn crown
night gorge
still oar
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I think it's better if you nick from the top and control bottom. Let's see, try
Try
Saveas

Lyca
Rowan
Brutus (luc)
Fawkes @autumn crown

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Wukong luc Rosa safiya tasi mayeb @topaz pumice. 1 to 5

night gorge
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Thanks for the tip, will check it out @still oar

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Sadly got no eironn :/

modest lintel
night gorge
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Darn for this im missing fera

short sonnet
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Hey, absolutely stuck here for days, any ideas ? :(

heady siren
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@short sonnet Sure!

Please share your hero roster and formation vs the enemy! πŸ™‚

heady siren
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@short sonnet

Lyca
Lucius
Rowan
Talene
Nemora

short sonnet
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Gonna try that thank you ! πŸ™‡

heady siren
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Make sure Nemora charms Arden, and Arden possibly rooting Athalia! @short sonnet

short sonnet
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Gotcha, thank you very much satranod

still oar
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Replace Shem with gwen and try
Gwen

Brutus
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
See if you can interupt arden first with gwen @graceful wind

ornate totem
heady siren
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Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Rowan
Fawkes

@ornate totem

If you'd like an artifact check please let me know! πŸ™‚

sage grove
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Currently doing. Saewas, fawkes, Hogan, brutus, and necro witch lady. I got some new troops and was wondering if anyone had any ideas?

ornate totem
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@heady siren no dousent help

sage grove
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Nothing?

limpid quail
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@sage grove saveas is the best early game carry, make sure to overlevel him. he works well with brutus in front of him and an arden besides him. i suggest a lineup like
saveas
brutus
arden
gorvo
nemora/solise

sage grove
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I thought shermia and vedan are like too tier

limpid quail
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shemira will be your next carry as saveas max level is 160 at L+. vedan is an ok carry, but not as good as saveas

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if you havent already done i recommend to check out the guides in the pinned messages of #classic-questions

glossy pagoda
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You could also choose athalia as your carry, until level 100, since you are likely not able to use her that way again later for a long while. Meanwhile saveas gains nice extra tankiness at 101 so you could switch to him by then.

wicked pelican
ornate totem
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@wicked pelican try mercing thoran he is very good for cheeseng athalia levels!!!

wicked pelican
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@ornate totem i can't use mercenary this week anymore, i saw that almost everyone in the winning formations used him for this stage but mine's only l+ so i guess i'll have to wait until sunday πŸ₯Ί

limpid quail
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wait nvm you dont have eironn 😦

ashen mantle
spare girder
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Grezhul?rowanflushed

ashen mantle
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He did some dmg xD

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Abit stuck on 194 now cant be bothered doing thoran πŸ§€

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Hate that nara xD

wide seal
graceful wind
brisk pecan
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Hi there. So basically I am able to make my nemora ascended but I prefer my tasi. I've never really used nemora but have just had luck pulling her. Is she better or as good as tasi?

still oar
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This a lil bit rough. Let's see try
Luc

Brutus
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
I assume Rosa on Belinda so she can crockery seirus while top tanking kaz for she might need to much time to deal and with tasi blinking Belinda may ult on shemira or kaz+ulmus @wide seal

keen bone
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Need Help!!! 27-36 Been stuck here for over 3 weeks. I can hire as mercenary most of the popular heroes at +30 SI if that helps.
Tried Thoran +30 cheese strat and retried over hundreds of times but it didn't work

wide seal
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@still oar thanks will try that

spare girder
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Get back +30 thoran merc...

spiral plaza
opal gulch
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Thanks my lord

spiral plaza
keen bone
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@spare girder This video is what made me use thoran, I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said i tried over 300 times mostly the same formation as in video.
Although I have all heroes in the video with similar SI, the difference is the team lvl. In the video they are 291 while I have 284 that is a big jump.

torpid crag
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@keen bone looks like a half decent Gwyneth level, but I'd try a couple first.

  1. Arthur 2. Tasi 3. Belinda 4. Rowan 5. Lucius
    Or
  2. Arthur 2. Rowan 3. Belinda 4. Rosaline 5. Lucius
    Can possibly put Belinda in the 4 position instead, but I think 3 is better
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Also can potentially use Fawkes across from brutus

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Goal would be to cleanse the roar immediately, so he'd need to dodge all the hits, coffin then cleanse. And would need dura's call. Fairly high RNG start lol

ornate totem
keen bone
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@torpid crag Thank you, any recommended artifacts? like duras call for tasi or rowan or rosa? who to priorities?

torpid crag
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If you're having Rosa follow Rowan, then Rowan gets the call. If you want Rosa to follow tasi, then tasi call. If you want Rosa to follow Belinda then tasi call. If you are front lining Rowan and he can't survive with call, then Lucius call

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Rosa following Rowan or tasi would have a good chance of winning at low level with no celestials

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Followed by Belinda if you can kill the skreg

limber silo
glossy pagoda
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In battle lucius, but belinda is easier to ascend further, since u have one more copy, and can buy her

spare girder
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Plus you already have more Belinda

spare girder
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@idle oriole Fawkes coffins lyca?

limber silo
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So I would swap out Belinda with sav as my primary carry then?

spare girder
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Sav can still carry you so no need to rush

limber silo
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I feel like either option would work in it's own way, I'm in chapter 12 and sav is still killin it for the most part. Tbh I could use better tanks in front though

sharp plinth
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@limber silo i'd go for belinda, she can be your carry + u will get hwr to ascended anyway since shes available from store

spare girder
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@limber silo just take your time, save and summon. Make good long-term decisions and it'll all work out eventually

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Nothing to Ascend in Wilders wait for either 1 copy of Tasi (the most optimal), Lyca (2nd best) or Kaz (my personal best) then use the fodder on them. If u want to just get their SI then Tasi and Lyca for sure.

For GB you really want Ascended Ferael and Thoran (for cheese). Grez is decent and Isabella is good sometimes.

As for your maulers... Nothing much is happening there. Honestly
@sharp plinth

idle oriole
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@spare girder he gets interrupted before he can coffin

sharp plinth
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Was wrong channel anyway rip

graceful wind
spare girder
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@idle oriole

Nemora (charms their Nemora to charm Seirus is the RNG here)
-Shemira
Lyca
-Brutus
Nara

idle oriole
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Ok will give it a shot

spare girder
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@graceful wind

Arden
-Brutus
Lyca (or Tasi probably)
-Ulmus
Belinda

graceful wind
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Doesn't work at all

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Niru and vedan need to die at the beginning

spare girder
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Ulmus is meant to root them for Belinda to nuke them HoganLUL so... how come?

graceful wind
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Niru heals so much

spare girder
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Use Rosa for Lyca

graceful wind
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Niru kills her

spare girder
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skriathderp weird how Belinda isn't dropping them tho' how's her gear like?

spare girder
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Put the eye on Belinda and try again... Normally for mages I get the staff first for more DMG.

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smug_dolly no one saw it

pale kettle
winter matrix
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r u sure about that smug_dolly

pale kettle
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F

spare girder
winter matrix
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Can you post an ss of all your heroes?

winter matrix
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Try

Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes/Rosaline

spare girder
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Your Ulmus is too weak that's the problem... and I can't see better tanks you can use to stall for Belinda

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That may work^

ashen mantle
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@graceful wind who does fawkess cofin?

graceful wind
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Khasos

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Okay i'm further than ever but not far enough, isabelle remains with a almost brutus

ashen mantle
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@graceful wind hmm use fawkess ult to insta kill brutus when he goes immune.
Since fawkess removes his last grasp buff

graceful wind
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I have it on auto

ashen mantle
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Do it with auto off, you can time the ults better than auto

graceful wind
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Roky

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You are a legend, i made it! Thanks you all!!! ulricry

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How?!

ashen mantle
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Whats that backline? :) @graceful wind

graceful wind
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It works kinda

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Oohh wait

ashen mantle
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I mean the enemy backline isnt loaded xD

graceful wind
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Fawkes coffins fireal

gentle spade
winter matrix
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Try

Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Belinda
Gwyn/Estrilda @graceful wind

ashen mantle
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Other question is does faw cofin ferael before he fears :)

graceful wind
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Doesn't work

winter matrix
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If he doesnt coffin before fear you can try

Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Belinda
Lyca

graceful wind
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Yes before fear

ashen mantle
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Hmm try
Rowan
Belinda
Nemora - needs to charm ferael
Brutus
Rosa

elfin burrow
winter matrix
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Rosaline
Lucius
Mirael
Wukong
Tasi @elfin burrow

ashen mantle
graceful wind
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Does he fear his own teammaten than?

ashen mantle
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Yeah @graceful wind

graceful wind
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Niru and isabelle remain

royal grotto
ashen mantle
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@graceful wind hmm give it a few more trys :) u can also swapout rosa for lyca or arden, but u lose 10% bonus that way

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@royal grotto prety sure it wont work, but try
Nemora - charm arden
Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca

trim sage
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and what should i level?

brisk pecan
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@trim sage belinda, I'm on chapter 19 and shes still hard carrying me

ashen mantle
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@trim sage go read the pinned messages (3 dots if ur on the phone) in #classic-questions :)

topaz eagle
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27-24 any lineup? I’m copying the same lineup on the winning formation and it does nothing

woven lichen
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@topaz eagle that formation is relying on Thoran to retaliate and kill everyone.... very rng heavy and takes a lot of retries... alternative is to try

Nemora
-tasi
Eironn
-Lyca
Safiya
(Something among those lines... Eironn pulls gb and silvina off mage... hopefully banish shemira or Safiya... maybe put Nemora on bottom to charm remaining mage)

Since Eironn isn’t +30, can also try Ferael instead... and Nara for Safiya... pull Safiya to prevent field

hasty acorn
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i clear this with lucius rowen nara ferael fawkes 280 team no si 30 @topaz eagle

prime cave
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Anyone van help stuck on IT for 4 days

runic beacon
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At hero level 100ish, my back line is Saveas, Tasi, and Arden. My front line so far is Lucius. Who should be my other front liner out of Gorvo, Brutus, Wu Kong, and Hogan?

royal grotto
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@royal grotto prety sure it wont work, but try
Nemora - charm arden
Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
@ashen mantle hey, she did charm arden but seirus hits so hard that I can stand for only few seconds

winter matrix
royal grotto
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@royal grotto
@winter matrix Thanks a lot, I seem to be underleveled but will try it with mercanaries and so

ashen mantle
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@royal grotto tough so xD

heavy ivy
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Stuck here for 2 weeks now.

ashen mantle
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Thats a scary amount of L+ heroes, RIP fodder

winter matrix
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Lyca
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Nemora @heavy ivy

heavy ivy
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Will try with mercenary rowan

winter matrix
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E+ will work, just reset until you get charm on arden

heavy ivy
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Alright

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Which artifacts?

ashen mantle
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@heavy ivy lyca- grace/eye, shemira- blade/eye, rowan- call, brutus- chalice, nem-? XD

dusty spoke
winter matrix
odd python
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@topaz eagle generally i think safiya stages are good places for nemora charm, didnt take too long for her to kill her own team

dusty spoke
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@winter matrix ty

graceful wind
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I'm sooo stuck i have tried everything but isabelle with niru remaining kills all

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I DID IT!!!!

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The rng liked me for once!

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@winter matrix @ashen mantle thx for supporting me!!!

vocal saddle
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25-44 could use help please. Why are people with 240 thorans able to clear this but i cant

still relic
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Help plz labyrinth

ruby coyote
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I’ve been stuck here for 3 days any help?

pale kettle
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Currently where I'm at. I got Sig items on Belinda (+7) and Lucius (+1). Stuck at 14-34.

nocturne furnace
weary cobalt
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@nocturne furnace what floor it is?

weary cobalt
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@bright root belinda out, rose middle so she can dodge athalia fwokes behind brutus

fast ginkgo
bright root
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yea i tried that mixowned and they get obliterated

weary cobalt
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@bright root then try thoran tactic

swift sail
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Noob here. Who should I put in the crystal next? Ignore Belinda I’m just saving her for ascension

bright root
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finally beat it needed to switch shem with my belinda and i wonXD

sand iris
nocturne furnace
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@weary cobalt mauler 140

versed wharf
pale kettle
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Hello?

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Any one please

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Does anyone use this chat? πŸ€”

north pond
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I hope so

ashen schooner
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Patience.

north pond
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How do I upload a photo? Tia

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JustI finished area 5 , going to reset and wanted to know best move forward

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Currently using Fwd-skreg+grezhul Back-saveas/safiya + shemira + nimisu

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Just picked up antandra.. advice please, tia

rugged niche
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Im about to finish stage 24 so please help me how to win this athalia is strong af

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Ok nvm i finished it

calm basalt
brisk storm
plush patrol
split peak
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Start focusing on upgrading ur lucius and belinda combo unless u wanna be stuck at chapter 23 forever

idle oriole
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@versed wharf try replacing Lucius with tasi

winter matrix
idle oriole
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@winter matrix my Lucius sucks but I'll try it

proper crest
visual bramble
winter matrix
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Try

Tasi/Belinda
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Saveas @visual bramble

stray pine
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Team 1 :
Belinda/Rowan/Fawkes
Estrilda/Lucius

Team 2:
Shem/Nara/Fera
Thoran/Grez

Team 3
Nemora/Eironn/Lyca
Brutus/Tasi @brisk storm

mortal flax
winter matrix
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Merc a good Khasos and then do

Saveas
Brutus
Khasos
Skreg
Vurk

mortal flax
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Okay will do that thanks

upbeat anvil
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I’ve retried a lot with different comps but it’s just ass beat. Should I just wait for more exp

winter matrix
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Get Shemira to 200 and then you can try

Fawkes
Lucius
Arden
Shemira
Lyca

midnight breach
upbeat anvil
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@winter matrix I see, tysm!!

heady siren
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@midnight breach Have you tried;

Rowan
Fawkes
Belinda
Rosaline
Lucius

?

midnight breach
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let me try

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thanks it worked but why KazThonk

heady siren
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Because Rosaline and Belinda escaped both Eironn's pulls, Fawkes coffined top Eironn*, and they harassed Ezizh to death.

Later on Rosaline and Rowan kept healing Belinda so she won't die by Ezizhs and Seirus

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Best of luck further on! belindakiss @midnight breach

midnight breach
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thought i only loosing because everyone sitting on theire ults but cant ult KazThonk

heady siren
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Top Eironn has an energy boost I believe he starts on like 120 energy points not 0, so he casts the ult faster with the 100 energy per 3 seconds and that triggers their ultimate-prevention ray

midnight breach
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make sense then (:

pale kettle
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What's the best team comp for Arthur?

violet igloo
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@pale kettle gwyneth behind Arthur is very good + LB backline, and also Solise has synergy with arthur. You can find something like :

Gwyneth
Arthur
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes/Rosaline

for example. But I'm not an expert in Arthur comps to be honest.

pale kettle
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Thanks! πŸ˜„

ionic scaffold
heady siren
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@ionic scaffold
Hmm... this seems rough but maybe try;

Vurk
Brutus
Skreg
Khasos
Satrana (after putting her in Crystal)

ionic scaffold
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Sounds good, I'll try it

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Yea everyone popped again good lord

heady siren
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You might need further ascending.. because your Khasos is not at a carry level yet.. I think he does best at level 240

ionic scaffold
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Oof. That sucks. :V

heady siren
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Nice well done! πŸ˜„

ionic scaffold
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Ty ty! And thanks for the advice! Satrana did so much damage holy moley. :V

heady siren
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They are all clumped together so her explosion affects more of them, since they're near each other ^^ she is very useful yes πŸ™‚

shy crag
glossy pagoda
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Who would get coffined/banished?

visual bramble
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@winter matrix saveas literally 1 shotted all my teams except saveas 😭

gloomy coral
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Fucking hate wilders every tine i encounter them im fucked

analog summit
lethal gale
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Got anymore good graveborns @analog summit?

violet igloo
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@analog summit you have a good comp. Try with wilder backline instead, so if that works better (probably not since you're vs full mauler team). You can also try to replace Lucius by Brutus if he dies too fast. And swap Brutus position with shemira so that Brutus can tank all the damage from Saveas

analog summit
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Wilder dies too quickly, i can level all my heroes to 150 should i do that?

glossy pagoda
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@gloomy coral
For starters, i would recommend shemira close to 220 over 181 crystal. Then try
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden with duras call
Will still be quite hard, i reckon.

south pagoda
glossy pagoda
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Use brutus over lucius for such wareks

south pagoda
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But without lucious ulti everyone else dies/

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Can drop nemora for Bruts? and swap with Luci?

Luci
Brutus
Rowan
Shem
Fawkes

still oar
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Don't charm warek you'll only make him stronger XD
Can you amek your shemira 220, it will make it easier and maybe try
Ezzih

Fawkes
Nemora(mehira)
Shemira
Rowan
You need a good dodge fawkes for this. And if you use nemora in the middle instead of mehira try either charm brutus so he will roar and his mates if not confined or saveas so he can help you killing his own team
@south pagoda

south pagoda
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Okay, I will try that

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But Fawkes and Ezzih are a bit weak in terms of gear, Fawkes doesn't dodge much

mystic willow
still oar
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Ezzih is fine he is just there to hasten energy gain since roar+that many heavy dd is dangerous. You really need to shut down roar in this stage or make shemira stacks as many ult as possible @south pagoda

drifting plover
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Best lineup or other?

modest lintel
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@mystic willow
Nem
Fara
Tasi
Lyca
Nara

That's what I used to beat that level I believe and I'm quite a bit lower level than you.

drifting plover
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How much dmg?

mystic willow
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@modest lintel I solved it by doing rowan Eironn front with Tasi, Mehira and Lyca backline. But thank you very much

next quartz
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I dont know if this happens often but I was at chapter 12 and I would always try to keep my own team's power 10% more than the ennemy otherwise I wouldnt attack, when I came here and realzed some 600k formation could kill 1200's and such, I tried to simply push forward as mucb as I could and here I am at chapter 15 now, beinf slowed down a bit but still being able to advance with repeated attempts and mercs.

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I unlocked 3 new features

wheat hemlock
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Help pls

midnight breach
wheat hemlock
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@midnight breach can u help me?

midnight breach
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my brain is not big enough and I know to little about the game sorry @wheat hemlock

wheat hemlock
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No problem

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And in your firts team i think u can use ulmus

violet igloo
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@wheat hemlock post a screenshot of your heroes

wheat hemlock
violet igloo
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@midnight breach here's 3 teams (the idea is to do 2 good ones, and last team is filled with the rest)

Ferael
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Fawkes

Shemira
Nara
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi

Belinda
Brutus
Khasos
Kaz
Safiya

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you could swap Nara with Brutus, the 3rd will be even more trash but the 2nd a bit better

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@wheat hemlock I highly recommend you read the 1 page guide pinned in questions if you haven't already, you have ascended too many heroes to legendary

wheat hemlock
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:(

lean anchor
wheat hemlock
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I understand but can you help my?

violet igloo
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@wheat hemlock it's not a big mistake, it'll just delay you a bit, it's not optimal. That being said, here's a line up for you. Put Shemira level 180 and other hereos level 140 :

Fawkes
Shemira
Lucius/Rosa
Brutus
Belinda

midnight breach
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@violet igloo thank you very much will try

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but in the first team , who will do dmg ? fawkes and fereal are not that good geared also fereal SI is not even 10

plush patrol
shy crag
winter matrix
shy crag
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No u didnt ulricry

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I cant do that compo anyway

pale kettle
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I'm trying to go complete undead I need one more

lean anchor
clever iron
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Guys

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I'm in chapter 7

winter matrix
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Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Skreg
Khasos/Vurk @clever iron

clever iron
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Thanks my man

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Oh by the way, all leveled equally??

winter matrix
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Overlevel Saveas then Brutus and Skreg then everyone else

plush patrol
zinc stump
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@plush patrol try putting Brutus in front of Khasos.

plush patrol
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Nope, still no luck ;x

graceful wind
plush patrol
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kaz just deletes shem

eager wind
zealous walrus
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Anyone able to give advice for switching up my lineup? This worked to get me out of a rut, but I’ve been stuck for over 24 hours so I wanted to check in and see if I missed something.

wicked yarrow
#

What's the best possible lineup for Maulers King's Tower?

brisk storm
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Ive used brutus warek sofiya numisu and khasos till now(floor 170) sofiya is definitely a carry

grand widget
still oar
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Merc khasos and put him in the middle and rng it. Vurk poison might help @grand widget

grand widget
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Ok thanks @still oar

upper coral
still oar
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Try
Shem

Rosa
Rowan
Lucius (brutus)
Tasi(nemora)
If lucius try rng it so luc can pop his shield up after that it's probably just a matter of Shemira ults 2x with the help of Rosa
If brutus try charm kaz or if possible even Arden albeit the chance is lower since he will probably root faster @calm basalt

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The recommended order of leveling up is carry>tank>support
Pick your carry can be either Belinda or wukong. From the order of your leveling up I guess you're relying on luc+Rosa to pop shield and do defensive and nicking the enemies slowly and if it's still working keep doing it for now @upper coral

calm basalt
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my guys just get shredded

summer wagon
low geyser
calm pagoda
#

Decent line ups for Guild Hunt Wrizz & Soren?

upper coral
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That's 3 heavies, though

glacial flume
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Also how should I level up? Lvl all to the same?

violet igloo
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Hi @glacial flume first of all, i highly recommend you read the 1 page quick guide pinned in #classic-questions it'll help you a lot πŸ˜‰

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So what you should do, is level Saveas to level 70 and put all other heroes to level 40 approximately. Then you can do this line up :

Estrilda
Saveas
Arden
Hogan
Wukong

this line up will probably change rapidly the more you open heroes

gentle spade
wicked pelican
plush patrol
urban minnow
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Need help against athelia in peaks

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Have 1 fountain left.

heady siren
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@urban minnow Have you tried full crowd control lineup? and energy reduction tooー

Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Ferael
Rowan

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@gentle spade Hey there! have you passed yet or do you still need help?- ^^

@wicked pelican The easy way out of this match is the biggest Thoran cheese but it might be possible with your heroes-

Lyca (dodge Athalia)
Tasi
Nemora
Rowan
Lucius

@plush patrol Swap Brutus for Lucius, see if it does any difference~

gentle spade
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still need help ^^ @heady siren

abstract shuttle
plush patrol
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@heady siren no luck, Lucius gets blown up lol

heady siren
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@gentle spade Okay!

Should you try;

Arden / Lyca
Rosaline
Tasi
Belinda
Lyca / Arden

@plush patrol Sheesh! this sounds really rough, but maybe if you'd swap Lucius' spot to be in the middle backline would he survive better and be able to tank harassment coming from the Thanes and Athalias?-

gentle spade
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who should be my gear priorities? since the team is mad mostly of int heroes who deserves the better gear (aside from bel obv)

plush patrol
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@heady siren that’s a bit better. He survives long enough to ult now but shem dies before lucius shields :/

heady siren
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@gentle spade Well, considering the lineup, you will need to focus your items (gears, artifacts, etc) on Rosaline and Belinda, then Tasi, Arden (give him your best available magic boots so he will cast faster), and Lyca

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@plush patrol Hmmm... Shem dies? then maybe put her up against the Thanes? they would deal less damage due to faction disadvantage than the Athalias..

gentle spade
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ok i feel like rosa is diying too quickly cause if she is in the frontline with bel on the back she'll tank a bit then go towards bel but that way idk if she is getting that much value

heady siren
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I was relying on Arden's root speed to prevent Isabella and Grezhul to kill your Rosaline quickly- if you'd like a better advice please share your hero roster

gentle spade
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ok ill try a few more runs and ill let u know how it goes also changing the items might do it

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also i only have 1 artifact (grace) thats on bel ofc

heady siren
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@gentle spade First of all;

You should reset WuKong and Mehira from your main 5 heroes and level up Arden and Lyca instead, as they are Elite+ and will increase your overall level cap to 120, Mehira is a hard hero to get duplicates of, not to mention getting at all, and Wukong, even though he's available in the shop, you're more encouraged to buy Shemira duplicates early on-..

That will help stabilizing your Crystal level.

Level up Belinda to 140 and then try this formation :

Belinda
Lyca (Sacrifice her)
Arden
Rosaline
Brutus

gentle spade
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i was planning on doing that but as i dont need it rn i just didnt do it yet

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also tried that but without brutus (why brutus backline and without tasi)

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btw i have space on the crystal to put someone on it if u feel like it would be a plus for my progress

opal dune
gritty quail
heady siren
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@gritty quail

Rosaline
Talene
Twins
Arthur / Lucius
Gwyneth / Nemora (charm Ferael)

If you decide going with Lucius, put Nemora, if Athur, put Gwyneth. see if both works out for you ^^

solid mango
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Help me deal with tis shit pls

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dead game?

fluid obsidian
solid mango
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1 could be shemira and rosa if u have it and wilder support

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other could have belinda and mauler

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and rowan

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aslo whale

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5 ascended at 115 yikes

uncut widget
solemn narwhal
wintry rapids
solid mango
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Give call to thenheionix one what I did

ashen mantle
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@uncut widget try using khasos middle back (position 4)

uncut widget
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Thanks @solid mango

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Thanks @ashen mantle, it worked! I put Khasos middle back and I beat it after a few tries :)

wintry rapids
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Use belinda instead of Saveas and use Shemira instead of Tasi, i think it might work

wintry rapids
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I still need help ;-;

upper coral
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I just pulled a brutus! should i replace wukong with him?

autumn bridge
#

stuck for two days, how should I proceed with low level from here

snow comet
wintry rapids
bold badge
wintry rapids
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Can't help if i can't see the battle formation

quiet fern
pale kettle
torpid stirrup
valid badger
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I have two crystal slots open, Im currently using Belinda, Wukong/Hogan, Ira/Saveas, Nemora and Brutus.
Should I crystal Rosaline, Fawkes, Shemira or Rowan? πŸ™‚

Crystal level is currently 86.

pale kettle
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Either Rowan or Rosaline, both are great supports for Bel (which I assume is your main carry) and the whole team

valid badger
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Either Rowan or Rosaline, both are great supports for Bel (which I assume is your main carry)
@pale kettle Yes she Is!
I do have 2 crystal slots open tho, So I COULD do Rowan and Fawkes, or Rosaline and Fawkes!
I figure Fawkes giving the faction bonus might be worth to replace Ira.
I could also reset Ira and just level Fawkes and add both tho!

pale kettle
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Actually, yeah, for the sake of faction bonus replace Ira with Fawkes and add both supports

cinder crag
valid badger
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@pale kettle
Who should replace Hogan/Wukong/Brutus as my frontline tho?
Fawkes?

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Im time's like this I wish I had Lucius on my main. : ^ )

pale kettle
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You could put Rosaline up front. In most cases, she can dodge initial attacks and even push enemies away when on her sweeping state. If all goes well, it'll usually be a 5v4 fight and you'll have the advantage.

valid badger
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Awesome!
Ill give It a try, I appreciate you @pale kettle

worthy island
proud grove
pale kettle
pale kettle
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If you're looking to overcome level caps and increase your power then I'd recommend leveling up L-tier heroes instead and put other heroes you still wish to use on the crystal. They're easier to ascend, res crystal can be upped to 160, and they can be used as fodder later on when you need to.
@pale kettle

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I'd personally recommend going AFK for a bit, as you seem to be underpowered for the stage.
@proud grove

proud grove
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ah ok

regal belfry
gloomy elk
wicked chasm
quiet barn
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@wicked chasm don't Ascend so many Heroes to L

wicked chasm
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Who should I ascend then?

quiet barn
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Only Ascend to L if u have another E+ copy to push that Hero to L+ . Exceptions are fodder Heroes (L-tier).

wicked chasm
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Okey @quiet barn thanks

gloomy elk
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Also you have levelled too many heroes, you only need 5 manual levelled players, after that your crystal will look after the others

wicked chasm
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Yep I get it

tired gale
olive fulcrum
violet igloo
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@olive fulcrum get your Shemira level 180 and others level 150. Take out your 2nd Nemora out of the crystal.

Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Lucius/Brutus
Tasi

olive fulcrum
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Alright ty so should I play with Lyca even if she is only elite? @violet igloo

violet igloo
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yes, she'll give haste to your entire team, then probably die. You just want Shemira to survive and ult.

I would recommend focusing on wilders if you have faction scrolls, they're really strong

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you can read the guide pinned by V in this channel πŸ˜‰

olive fulcrum
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Ok will do ty

spare girder
brazen tusk
spare girder
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Khasos is vital for mauler tower because of his LL passive and also you can buy him from the shop. So go for him.

upper zinc
brazen tusk
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@spare girder Thank you!! πŸ‘

spare girder
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@upper zinc does fawkes coffin Ferael?

upper zinc
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yes @spare girder

austere stag
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One Arden from A eironn. Is swapping him out for Brutus viable? Moving Brutus' gear to Wu Kong and Warek. Also a few stones from +10 SI on him, and making him my next +20

spare girder
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@upper zinc swap Rosaline for Lyca probably or swap Rosaline and Belinda's positions. One of them should work.

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@austere stag Actually swapping out Warek for Eironn is more meta in PvP because Eironn and Brutus have good synergy the team is like:

Lyca
Brutus
Eironn
Tasi
Nemora

Eironn pulls for Brutus to spin on 3 enemies at once

austere stag
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@spare girder oh, My warek deals way more damage than my brutus atm though, and I'm still 3 copies short of ascending him. Is he viable just as a first slot tank then?

upper zinc
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@spare girder tried almost everything and failed. maybe ill just wait for a few days. thanks!

stray cypress
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Hello what can i use to defeat this stage? Sorry im a newbie

delicate trout
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just swap saveas with tasi

stray cypress
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Oh thanks I'll try that

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@delicate trout tried fighting the stage 10 times but got defeated in all 10 matches

delicate trout
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of course, ok, send me your hero pool @stray cypress

stray cypress
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Sure

spare girder
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@austere stag warek is viable just not in that team I'd suppose πŸ€”

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@stray cypress swap tasi and saveas

delicate trout
#

saveas
hogan
rowan
luci
that GB assassin

stray cypress
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Okay ill try both of your suggestions

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I dont know what im doing wrong but i still kept on losing hahahahaa

delicate trout
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@stray cypress level up ur tank

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or, maybe this is sounds not good, but why not
saveas
hogan
silvina
luci
tasi

stray cypress
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Okay ill try that thanks

torpid crag
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Just reset the saveas, put all the levels in to solise and use her instead of saveas gunsolise

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Saveas is some old school stuff lel

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Maybe if he was legendary he'd be better

stray cypress
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Sure ill try that too

torpid crag
stray cypress
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@torpid crag hey thanks man. Solise worked.

torpid crag
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You're still good taking saveas up, but nowadays he doesn't have to be the carry, because wishlist is op. Gosh, I had an L+ belinda way before I had an L+ saveas on my alt lol. Nowadays you can just push almost any aoe hero up before him

stray cypress
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Now im stuck in the next stage hahaha anyways thanks bro its just my 2nd day of playing

torpid crag
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Great you're checking guides at least. Won't be too hard to progress

stray cypress
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Yeah. I guess I'll just level them up and wait for day 7 to get my bel. I played a while ago and reached chap 14 i guess but i stopped and when i came back theres so much new stuff so i created a new acc

torpid crag
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Yeah games has faster progression and less variance so probably better to just start new

stray cypress
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Anyways any tips on how i can beat 6-28?

torpid crag
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But I'm a whale, don't know too much about progression talenelaugh

stray cypress
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Ohhh i wish i have the money to spend on the game

torpid crag
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Well, you can put Wu Kong on the crystal and use him instead of tasi, you should have a ton of sustain and no damage haha

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Or use another damage dealer instead of tasi

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But you're close to simply needing levels

stray cypress
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Ohh thanks my main carry was wukong in the early levels but figured maybe saveas or solise can work better.

torpid crag
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He's pretty annoying in pvp too early game so might as well keep him on the crystal. Can be decent secondary damage

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I'm sure you'll replace him before you hit 140 though talenelaugh

fervent rune
torpid crag
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Everyone pushing hard today talenelaugh

deep badge
torpid crag
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@fervent rune 1.talene 2.belinda 3. Nemora 4. Solise 5. Fawkes

hardy sonnet
tidal maple
tired gale
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@zachi
Could try putting nemora center back to charm specifically ferael
Try:
Shemira (1)
Brutus (2)
Lyca (3)
Nemora (4)
Tasi (5)

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@tidal maple

cerulean hamlet
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What are the enemies on that stage?

cerulean hamlet
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Maybe try something like
Saveas

  • Lucius
    Rowan
  • Hogan
    Fawkes
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Though on a general note, if you use Saveas as a carry he should be the highest level in your lineup

stray cypress
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So i should reset solise and put 90 levels in saveas instead?

green python
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just go wu carry in the early stages

stray cypress
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Ill try both of your suggestions thanks!

green python
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wu and the wilder one as duo carry maxing them or wu carry with ronin behind him will clear you so mutch early on

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Should i stay with Wilders?
@green python help pls

stray cypress
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@green python ronin? And how should my line up looklike?

green python
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if you want to do wu carry max wu and ronin behind other whise triangle them if you want the wilders chick with wu as carry

cerulean hamlet
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Probably Rowan

green python
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wu and chick aboud same level wu in front line in middle behind chick and in the corner ronin or wu maxed in front with ronin in corner behind him

stray cypress
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Oh okay thanks @green python ill do just that

fervent rune
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@torpid crag nemora got oneshot and so did the rest of the team WAAAHsos

torpid crag
green python
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@fervent rune maybe shemira lucius front and back line the wilders

fervent rune
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Oo i tried using the same team as before (belinda lucius Fawkes talene mehira) but putting belinda at the front and it totally worked !!

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thank you for the advices rowanflushed

stray cypress
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@green python thanks man it worked beautifully.

lime quiver
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What could be the best possible lineup there? I'm actually using
Shemira
------Lucius
Rowan
------Vedan
Mirael

quiet fern
lime quiver
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I think Lucius could potentially be better that Hogan, if he survives long enough to drop the ult, it may change the battle

green python
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@lime quiver get wu level wu and shimera only untill you have to up the others and play them as duo carry

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@quiet fern same for you

quiet fern
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Thank you very much

lime quiver
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Time to afk farm like 3 days

quiet fern
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Duo carry, just means I use both of those heros only? Where the from two spots of the lineup are?

green python
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no

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you level them both simular as high as possible get the other for faction synergy

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@lime quiver you can reset them in the cart thingy

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they will be higher level anyways so just put them in the front

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the other 3 heros are you for faction but you can improve the siutation by playing support heros there

deep badge
green python
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they dont need to be high level to be helpfull

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@deep badge get wukong hes free right now and then look above

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explained it allreadyπŸ‘†

deep badge
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what do i do ? share?

green python
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you have to share on twitter or facebook if i remember correctly

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you can share if you get smt new from a summon or change synergy

lime quiver
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Oh yeah but I'm only leveling 5, if i reset one then some helpful heroes are going to be lvl 1

green python
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in libaray

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that dosent realy matter the 2 of them will clear the early chapters solo

lime quiver
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Also the only regular hero is vedan, but I can't replace Rowan and Lucius, maybe mirael

green python
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you can also do rowan wukong and ignore shimera

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just solo carry wukong and some level in rownan

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you dont have to play it like that if you dont want to just how i would push forward with what you got

lime quiver
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Yeah I know, I just want to clear chapters and improve, I'm a newbie, so you are saying I have to reset mirael and put all levels on wu

green python
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level all of them to 61 and then put the levels in wu and shimera

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you can also cut mirael levels completly and just put her in for faction buff

tidal maple
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Worked like a charm @tired gale

fervent rune
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@undone venture maybe try using Fawkes instead of cecilia ?

lime quiver
quiet barn
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Yeah overlevel your carry harder. It's gonna make pushing a lot easier

heady siren
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@lime quiver Have you tried;

Rowan
Wukong
Mirael
Lucius
Saveas

You are quite underlevelled, should you focus your future resources on Mirael, get her to at least level 95 and see if it works! ^^

gritty quail
heady siren
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@gritty quail

Rosaline
Talene
Nemora (charm Ferael)
Rowan
Twins (bait for Silvina so Ferael can be charmed)

gritty quail
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Doesn’t work tiltdus @heady siren

heady siren
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Could you show the might difference by putting the lineups in preview mode? (Before entering battle)

dire gull
lime quiver
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@heady siren I was doing that but then someone said I should level Wu first then shemira so I confused myself

heady siren
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@dire gull Try swapping Shemira for Nara, that should be enough, your formation looks good, cancelling out one Mehira will help you a lot. Make sure Thoran tanks bottom Mehira's harassment so the damage will be directed to his cursed victim.

@graceful wind

Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi (sacrifice and increase faction bonus)
Belinda

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@lime quiver Shouldn't focus Shemira while still being so early into the game, since Shemira's damage peak is at 161+, it's okay to focus her but she won't provide as much carry-potential until then, prior to then, heroes such as Belinda and Saveas are pretty much well-known carries in those stages of the game. ^^

lime quiver
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Is it worth to reset Wu or mirael and start leveling saveas instead?

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Not mirael, she's E+, but the monkey, or just level the lowest until 80

stray cypress
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Got lucky and got a brutus. What line up should i use now? Anyone i should prioritise?

abstract shuttle
pale kettle
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You could try and make do with the following: Lucius, Antandra/Wukong, Rowan, Fawkes, Saveas

This is with Saveas having the lead level-wise. Try to have him at least 20 levels above the rest of your team.
@stray cypress

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Any ideas on how to do 17-40?

warm mauve
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Need to borrow some Wilder for FT160 not nemora,tasi or lyca ,if anyone has msg me so i can add him

pale kettle
warm mauve
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Kinda could but its not libary i need tho

pale kettle
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Anyone????

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That channel is not just for completing library unions, but is also used if you're looking for mercs @warm mauve

warm mauve
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Got it m8

pale kettle
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Can you post your full list of heroes? @pale kettle

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What mean dm you or no m8?

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Not necessary, just upload a screenshot here

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Wait have to hide something one sec

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Since you seem to have Shemira at M+, up her levels first to 200 so that she can carry your team. Once you're done, give this a try:

Fawkes
   Lucius
Rowan
   Rosaline
Shemira

@pale kettle

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@pale kettle okay much obliged m8

undone venture
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@undone venture maybe try using Fawkes instead of cecilia ?
@fervent rune didnt work, tried already

pale kettle
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@pale kettle so like this

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Yes πŸ‘

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Thanks πŸ™πŸΏ

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@pale kettle can I ask to talk to you in question? About a m gear for shemira?

gritty quail
pallid lake
weary cobalt
lament birch
weary cobalt
covert osprey
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@pallid lake just use hypo and celestials HoganLUL

fading bramble
graceful wind
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@heady siren didnt really work out

wintry rapids
pale kettle
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In certain stages where enemy Ferael is involved, charming him using Nemora should do the trick. It will require a few restarts, but it'll be worth it if she charms him successfully. Give this a try:

Nemora
   Lucius
Fawkes
   Rosaline (assuming she's the one on the bottom-right)
Belinda

@wintry rapids

graceful hearth
cosmic rivet
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Hey guys, this is my current line up! I'm going to upload another picture with my list of heros. Would you change anything? I like LB/Wilder but Graveborn seems like it would be fun to make a comp with.

split bolt
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Help guys, been stuck for a while in 12-1. Feel like I should be able to beat with the toons I ahve. Any ideas?

flat gyro
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getting straight up spanked like bbbaaaddd. Any ideas or tips? Winning formations aren't working even tho I'm much higher level and Ascension then them.

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@split bolt try moving Rosa down, Rowan back mid and put Shem in the front

split bolt
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thansk no luck yet, team is getting melted. Feel like im lacking tanks, thinking of building up to a L* hogan for now

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may take some time though, not even at E

fading bramble
graceful hearth
fading bramble
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Yep...

graceful hearth
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It hurts... I’m way higher than you ffs and I’m still getting melted

fading bramble
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You have a lyca

graceful hearth
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She doesn’t help

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She does her boost then dies like three seconds later, even with my friend’s merc’d Lyca

fading bramble
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Do u have mehira?

graceful hearth
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I wish, but no. My only Hypogean is Ezizh, but he’s at E+ and not in my crystal

fading bramble
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Here ill show u 2 comps. Try them

onyx basin
fading bramble
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@graceful hearth any luck?

graceful hearth
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Bottom lineup is eating it. Shem simply can’t go against skreg and warek without taking a beating

fading bramble
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First one prob best if ur shem isnt a tank

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Brutus top front

graceful hearth
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The annoying thing is she usually is a damn tank, but not with Warek chilling there and flipping the bird at her

fading bramble
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Yea noticedthat

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My guild sent those lineups tho from people who finished

graceful hearth
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They’re lucky. I feel like it should be so easy and yet I’m getting slapped in the face

fading bramble
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Skreg buff

graceful hearth
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Mhm

gritty quail
torpid crag
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Just put the Rosaline on Rowan and spam them with coins talenelaugh 1. Twins 2. Talene 3. Rosaline 4. Rowan 5. Belinda

fading bramble
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@graceful hearth beat it

worthy island
graceful wind
rose cloud
pale kettle
odd python
pale kettle
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Ah thanks!

odd python
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you can replace athalia with any carry that works for you (ferael works, this comp just about cancelling ults)

pale kettle
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Got it. Will try it now

lost basin
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Is it worth maintaining mono-faction teams? Also is Khasos's life leech really good?

dense ivy
lofty lake
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HELP ME

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I'm getting upset and no matter what I try it fails its it's like come on man ;w;

small acorn
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@lofty lake heres best tip for all early game vaden teams. Put you best 2x dps bot to kill vaden b4 he ults. Greatly increases your chances

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So for you, hogan in 2 and bel in 5

tidal solar
pale kettle
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I'd recommend setting up your heroes like this:

Estrilda
   Lucius
Wu Kong
   Silvina
Saveas

Prioritize leveling Saveas at least 20 levels above your team. If you still wish to use other heroes, use the resonating crystal.
As to expect though, it still highly depends on the enemies you face, so don't be afraid to experiment with different lineups, know the heroes' abilities and see which would benefit you the most.
If you have some free time, please read the pinned beginner guides here and on #classic-questions for quick progression.
@split flax

split flax
pale kettle
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Close. Reset Isabella and level Saveas instead, making sure to overlevel him. Put Isabella on the crystal if you still wish to use her.

split flax
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I just reset Isabella

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Let me reset estrilda and put her on the crystal

pale kettle
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Oh, sure, go ahead

split flax
pale kettle
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Looks good! As I said, make sure to prioritize levels on Saveas first, so he can carry your team well.

split flax
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Thanks Wu Kong is really good at level 80+ rn especially for the chapter I'm at

pale kettle
split flax
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He is pretty much always my last hero alive and ends up cluching it

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Thanks

visual bramble
stray cypress
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If i were to buy a shemira can someone help me what my team should look like?

hardy sonnet
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Any help is appreciated

brave oriole
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@hardy sonnet first, I would make shem Lucius 240,and the next rowan 240, then lvl the others 2

hardy sonnet
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@brave oriole thankyou, I'll give it a go ☺️

pastel crypt
brave oriole
pastel crypt
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I’ll try thanks 😊

amber folio
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Can someone help me with a good team layout?

pastel crypt
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@brave oriole it worked so well rowanflushed thanks so much

brave oriole
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I dunno, try 1lucius 2wukong,3tasi, 4mirael 5estrilda. you team will change very soon anyway, you gonna pull much more heroes @amber folio

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@pastel cryptimokbrutus

pastel crypt
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@brave oriole oops you sent message it wrong person

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@amber folio look at Xperta’s message to me meant for you

stray cypress
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I bought shemira.what do you think my ljneup should look like?

brave oriole
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well, its too early to say from now @stray cypress. but bscly Lucius wukong, rowan middle and then i dunno, shemira and the wilder girl. but you need more than one shemira to get good.

stray cypress
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Oh okay I'll do that @brave oriole thanks

brave oriole
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but always make a. team around of rowan

raven spindle
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@stray cypress @amber folio ik y'all asked abt lineups and i think xperta gave good advice, but a few general tips: early game, it's good to focus on L tier (max yellow border) heroes and get them up. You don't necessarily have to use them in your lineups, but they will help you break level caps faster due to their more widespread availability. There are two tried and true L-tier carries though: Saveas/Mirael. Both are alternatives to Shemira/others in the beginning. Also, the most direct method of progression is by buying only Shem until she reaches A (don't pursue stars and instead work on other lab heroes that aren't at A yet). However, until you can break 160 level cap, she won't truly shine.

Never use A tier as fodder; you'll need them later to raise your crystal level and even the trashiest hero might get buffed at some point (e.g. skreg, who is now an absolute unit). Also, don't be in a rush to make too many A-tier Legendary (yellow) heroes unless you can take them straight to L+ (check the ascension guide in #545929173471068170 for more info), bc they'll eat up fodder and slow down your progress significantly.

Don't make too many L+/M. Regardless of whether you are making L/L+: level is more important.To this day I'm using E/E+ heroes. And too many M, while granting you access to a large repertoire of signature items (special skills exclusive to a single hero), can also be a setback since they eat up so much fodder. If you focus on lots of them at the same time, you'll have a hard time breaking 180 lvls.

regarding gear: please don't buy any gear from guild store until you can get M (red) gear. from general store, buy elite stones whenever they appear and buy dust every day if you can. from challenger store, i wouldn't recommend focusing on athalia bc she is a long-term investment. i personally have only bought athalia from the store but that's also bc i've had ok luck pulling her from normal draws.

zinc stump
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@stray cypress Saveas, WuK, Hogan, Rowan, Luc might work for a bit and you can try periodically swapping Fawkes in if you're stuck

still ivy
stray cypress
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@raven spindle @zinc stump thank you both! :))

raven spindle
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happy to help!

brave oriole
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@still ivy maybe using arden would help

still ivy
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I've tried that didn't work out @brave oriole

stray cypress
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Tank dies too fast and saveas cant put up more damage what should i do?

zinc stump
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@stray cypress swap Fawkes for Hogan and put Luc back row. Also dump all exp you can into Saveas. You'll want him up above 100

stray cypress
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Okay ill try that

brave oriole
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@still ivyit will. never work. from 1st,its about your arden random root. never used gwineth, but I'm sure that shem is much better than her till. late game. is your Arthur fused with Lucius?

still ivy
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Arthur is fused with shemira @brave oriole

brave oriole
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@still ivy well, try this, put your dura's call on Brutus and front of arden, check if cancels his root, or even on arthus

stray cypress
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@zinc stump sorry if i have too many questions man but i tried fighting 10 times but they still die way to fast

brave oriole
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@stray cypressyou might be at that part of the game, where you need to stay afk and get more exp for your heroes, but you can always use Brutus to tank a few seconds

stray cypress
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Im on 7-16 btw

still ivy
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Arden died immediately @brave oriole

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Wherever I put him

stray cypress
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@brave oriole oh maybe thats the reason why

zinc stump
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@stray cypress yeah... I agree with him. You need some exp to dump into saveas or Mirael to get them to 100+ at that point especially without a Nem copy. Also check your unions to make sure they are bumped to best possible

brave oriole
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@still ivyhe won't die with lyca combo

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@still ivybut have you tried Arthur with dura's call vs arden enemy? does he root still? when arden is front I'm using mostly Lucius with call to cancel the root

stray cypress
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alright i do that anyways thanks @brave oriole @zinc stump you've been a great help

brave oriole
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@stray cypressyou can always play on another server or two, feels better than to wait and try hard again and again 😊

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@stray cypressyou can switch the servers how you want when you want without loosing any progress

stray cypress
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Oh okay ill try that as well :))

amber jay
still ivy
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Arden mostly roots my gwyneth and Rosaline @brave oriole

amber jay
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Been stuck on this for quite some time

brave oriole
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@amber jaydo you have an rosaline? I would try Brutus fron of. Lucius first, remove Belinda. and I would try then fawkes if have any to see if the coffins mirael

amber jay
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I do not have Rosaline,I really want to though. I would try your suggestion

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Oh wow

brave oriole
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@amber jaybut, I would. keep Belinda l+ for a long time, focus on Lucius rowan and Rosa from lb faction. since you are going for shemira, no need belinda till later

amber jay
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Thanks for the suggestion, I passed it

zinc stump
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@amber jay you're running a double carry which is cutting your efficiency. Since Shemira is under 161 dump all exp you can into Bel to get her up to 160 until Shem goes M. Swap out Shem for Rosa or a CC like Fawkes or Arden. I'd almost suggest reset Shem and manually Level Arden to 120 putting the rest of that exp into Bel to 160 her

amber jay
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Thanks for the suggestion I will try that

zinc stump
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@amber jay Shem is inefficient in LB team and you'll have a harder time running her with LB. She needs the CC that the wilder trio provide for the time for her Ult to tick off health from the enemy. LB core teams are about speed kills and shem is a slow kill...
If you're sticking with Shem then you'll want to use the wilder trio as your core team.

brave oriole
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@zinc stump are you serious about this? shem inefficient with lb team? 😊

zinc stump
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@brave oriole I've tried both at same Ascension and level. Shem underperforms Bel in an LB team

brave oriole
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@zinc stumpmaybe after chap 25..but not before

zinc stump
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@brave oriole did the test in ch 20 with Shem and Bel both A 200

modest lintel
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I was still able to use lb team with shem up to ch 27.

amber jay
brave oriole
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@brave oriole I mean I'm having 4 accounts, with shem+lb, bel shem both a, bel was never better than shem. till. middle of chap 25

amber jay
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So what team should I make rn

zinc stump
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@amber jay go with Bel because she can hit 160 where shem is capped at 140

amber jay
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What should I pair with her then?

brave oriole
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@zinc stumpfor ex, this account, ive used shem till 25 30 or so, then I had to use Belinda mostly. but trust me using bel, means that you need 2 tanks at all for your front line, while with shem, you only need lucius

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and ive finished the chap 25 with about lvl 257 at all. with bell carry I would be stuck. somewhere on chap 24 still

zinc stump
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@amber jay Luc, Rowan/Raine, Fawkes Talene can work for a bit. You'll want a Rosa copy in place of Talene and that team can get you a fair distance

amber jay
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Alright thanks so much

zinc stump
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@amber jay and dont abandon Bel even if you switch to Shem. Bel with 3 free copies and being champion shop is the fastest to A for F2P in the game even if you never use her...

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@amber jay I normally run Bel front row over level with Grace. She is a good tank early game

brave oriole
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@zinc stump would you ever buy her? when know that there's eironn who's late game dps? I think that Belinda it's to most easier ascended that you can get without to buy any copy. plus, on lb faction theres rowan the priority then Rosa Lucius. I strongly believe that everyone will get an A Belinda till chap 24, without buying any copy of her

amber jay
zinc stump
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@brave oriole the goal is 5A asap. With Bel able to get there in 3-4 months for a F2P where others take 5+ theres no reason to hold back on getting that A. Eironn may be good late game but that is a mid to late game focus not 8 months to get A if you dont pull copies.

brave oriole
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@zinc stumpeven with your goal being 5 A, as a f2p you still have to farm the dust, you can't speed up it. I've reached my 5A,always,when I had 2 heroes 240 or so, then I had to wait for the dust 😭

calm nova
brave oriole
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@calm nova if you didn't had this kelthur l+😭, shem. could. be m by now. a good line up? maybe shem 160,lucius, Rosa rowan fawk. sometimes if Lucius cannot tank, Brutus front of him

zinc stump
calm nova
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@brave oriole I can fodder jelthur for shemira

brave oriole
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@calm novanope, never do this πŸ˜‚ keep your ascended heroes elite+ mostly

zinc stump
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@brave oriole you can speed up the dust. Further ch progress means more dust per hour.

amber jay
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@zinc stump the highest I can get her to is level 153

brave oriole
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@calm nova fodders are only the legendary heroes

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my point it's, you will always get the 5A before of the 240 dust

amber jay
brave oriole
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maybe 1 talene, 2 Brutus, 3 Belinda 4 rowan and 5 Lucius

amber jay
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Ok thanks I’ll try that

brave oriole
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I would try the monkey King instead of talene tho

amber jay
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Ok I’ll put him on

zinc stump
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@amber jay in front of Estrilda to get her to trigger WuK skill for avoiding CC

amber jay
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I did but I got beaten up pretty badly

brave oriole
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how. looks your setup?

amber jay
brave oriole
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what artifacts do you have already?

amber jay
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Duras Grace, call, and eye

brave oriole
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OK. I would put call on Lucius, eye on Belinda and grace on rowan. also try to swap Belinda and lucius places to. see how's working

amber jay
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I got defeated pretty fast

brave oriole
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Ohh, okay. so try this. Lucius, Brutus, Belinda rowan fawkes.

amber jay
brave oriole
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yes, if anything, swap Lucius belinda

amber jay
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Also should I maybe level them up equally? Or keep it that way?

brave oriole
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mh, nah won't work better. once Belinda is 160,lvl Lucius

amber jay
brave oriole
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well, its a hard stage at all. they are all dps there πŸ˜‚. fawk dies insta?

amber jay
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Yeah.

brave oriole
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he need to coffin at all, I think he will Khasos but not very sure about

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then put him up, and go for Lucius Brutus, fawk rowan belinda

amber jay
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This time went the same, only Belinda and Lucius stayed up for longer than four seconds

brave oriole
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have you tried to use a mercenary? what's your ingame name? I will give you a shemira πŸ˜‚

amber jay
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I do have a mercenary Shemira

brave oriole
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you can use her in. labs too

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is she ascended?

amber jay
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Should I use her? She is ascended five star

brave oriole
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yep use her instead of Belinda, this stage is painful, too. much dps

amber jay
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Oh that didn’t work well, shemira also died

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But maybe it was because of her armor, she had some really bad armors on her

brave oriole
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well, her armor is based on your top 5 heroes

amber jay
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Oh I see

brave oriole
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so if you put better armor on them, sh will have a better gear, ofc, at your lvl and current gear won't be a huge diff

amber jay
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I see

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Okay I passed it

brave oriole
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anyway, keep buying shemira copies and get her your carry, Belinda cannot tank much

amber jay
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I will do that, thanks for helping I used Fawkes ascended mercenary to finish that stage

brave oriole
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yeah, was a better choice since shem was too. low lvl to carry imokbrutus

novel adder
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@copper plinth could you send a screenshot of 16-40 here as well?

copper plinth
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is rough i have a hard time even getting ult off

brave oriole
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@copper plinthyou need call on Lucius, and to get rid of arden, so do you have any athalia or nara for arden?

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I still can't understand why ppls are playing with shem and Belinda, and why they push Belinda if have shem already 😭, like in your situation, shem and Lucius m, could be a hella diff

copper plinth
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just used fodder and was my only option at the time

brave oriole
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your priority, should always be the front line, to have a strong one.

zinc stump
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@copper plinth it's the double carry and lack of CC. I beat that with Bel Grace, Rosa Call, Raine eye, Luc, Fawkes in that order 1-5

brave oriole
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try a nara or athalia anyway, and replace that Belinda with her

pale kettle
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any suggestions

brave oriole
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I would rather push a tank to 200,belinda it's not great with your current heroes. so maybe Rosa shem, ghez rowan arden

copper plinth
brave oriole
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@copper plinth try mhmm, Rosa shem, Lucius rowan nara

pale kettle
brave oriole
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arden will root and kaz insta kill shem 😭

pale kettle
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talene will heal

brave oriole
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okay

pale kettle
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any suggestions @brave oriole on what i posted

brave oriole
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I've replied already to you just didn't tagged you

pale kettle
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ah my arden is only rare tho lmao and i dont have rosa

novel adder
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@copper plinth if those dont work you can try the wilder support..
tasi
brutus
nemora
lyca
shem
generally you are aiming for nemora to charm the arden and proceed to lockdown his own team.

brave oriole
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@pale kettle that's weird to not have a Rosa already πŸ˜‚, but, no joke, you need arden for lots of stages till chap 25

pale kettle
copper plinth
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why lyca on frontline?

brave oriole
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well, then, be like ghez shem fawk rowan and your r arden πŸ˜‚ @pale kettle, but better ghez 200 than bel 220

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@copper plinthto protect shem

pale kettle
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you only want her haste at the start @copper plinth

wicked pelican
brave oriole
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you dont need to thoran this one, it's easy

amber jay
brave oriole
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@wicked pelicanso try shem with grace, Lucius with dura's call, Rosa rowan and, now if you want shem. to free hit, you need. lyca with sword artifact on her

pale kettle
wicked pelican
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@brave oriole it's not really working, everyone is dying almost immediately. i've been trying different formations with shem since wednesday so that's why i want to use thoran here

brave oriole
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@wicked pelican all you have to do it's to tank athalia and Thane. having dura's call on Lucius helps. but if you insist with Thoran...

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try this imokbrutus

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any mehira would work dont have to be A

pale kettle
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anyone got a rosa a i can borrow i can add real quick

amber jay
brave oriole
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@amber jaymaybe swap fawk with Belinda, he dies there insta

amber jay
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Surprisingly he actually doesn’t for some reason

brave oriole
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he dodge Khasos before to. coffin him maybe. try Belinda front of Lucius then

amber jay
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Putting Belinda in front of Lucius makes everyone die earlier

brave oriole
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fawk. coffin Khasos right?

amber jay
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Yeah

brave oriole
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then try Brutus Belinda, Lucius rowan fawk

amber jay
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Ok

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Oh wait nvm

brave oriole
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if you remove your heroes, you will see 1 2 3 4 5.so 1 Brutus, 2 Belinda 3 Lucius 4 rowan 5 fawkes

amber jay
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Ok I did that but I got defeated

brave oriole
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maybe use talene instead of. Lucius

amber jay
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Ok I’ll try that