#lineup-help
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Any tips? All winning formations are like this...
@quiet barnmaybe try lyca or fawk instead of arden, and lower rowan defense to make silvina jump on Rosa. also, Lucius down should be a better place, put dura's call on him
Tbh don't think you can pass chap 22 without 240 Shemira
@brave oriole won't lowering his defense make silvina jump him instead?
@spare girder sorry for late reply
@quiet barnyeah my bad, I've meant Rosa π
He Jumps Rosa already haha. Problem is tasi perma cc'ing shem
Tower floor 315
@dreamy mirage
Rosaline
Lucius
Gwyneth
Brutus
Lyca
Should do it I guess. Feel free to swap Brutus and Lucius.
Any tips? I've been stuck for a while. Guess my issue is regarding tanks, thinking of building a Hogan untill get more copies of luc
@split bolt you might benefit from having Mirael being the highest level too... 5 faction bonus and she will shield the front... otherwise another tank would help like Hogan or Brutus
@woven lichen Ok thanks, ill try. However i think the magic dmg is not the problem, i just die of like 1 hit from golus / morvus. I have no tank whatsoever on the lineup, it sucks
@split bolt add Brutus... he can take the shot and stay invulnerable for awhile
Hey guys, I'm a noob at the game (downloaded it today) and I'm stuck against this one, I know I have 3 heroes that recieve 25% more damage but it's the most powerful lineup based on level right now, can someone help me with some tips? The little goat is the only one that bothers me because of the healing
It sucks because I literally can't progress further, I'm stuck at the tower too and i just wait some hours, level up someone, try to beat it, if not, I repeat the process
for the first like 5 chapters you can join a guild, max a union and get the free wukong (the monkey one on events tab), just put all levels on him and he will carry you
you have 13 heroes levelled up manually, you should use the resonating crystal and only have 5 leveled up. please go read some pinned guides in #classic-questions or smth
@split bolt yeah I've seen that i have to join preferable a lvl 5 guild, but I'm just seeing lvl 2 ones
@odd python thanks, I'll give a look, idk what resonating crystal is but I keep seeing those words everywhere
go to the city its like right side middle of the screen
the crystal is available after like ch4, he is still in ch3
but yes, I agree, only 5 heros should be leveled
So should I keep leveling those 5 until they beat them? Or should I aim to do another lineup with the other heroes I've got? With my actual lineup the best I can do is to kill 2/5
Thoughts?
My current line up is Belinda, Shemira, Luc, Fawkes , Hogan
On gb 170. Looking to do some more today after breaking for a while. Best merc? Tryna grab a nara right now. Considered a 20 isabella or 10 baden though
Hogan seems to underperform. Then fawkes and Belinda crumble. Luc and shemira seem to be tanky
Thought about buying nemora from the arcane lab store
What team should I use for wrizz
Hey what lineup would you suggest for Tower floor 300?
Any suggestions?
Dont make heroes legendary unless you can get them to mythic immediately @timid sparrow
Made that mistake before. Not doing it anymore lol
What do you need suggestions for specifically?
Skirath was just to get Belinda up levels though
As I hit chapter 12, my lineup doesn't seem to work anymore. So I'm attempting to get a better line up for it
What's the best champ to get from the store for my first 45k lab points? I only have Wu Kong so far
Also new in the server- highest level is 61
shemira foist
Ty
I have a question. Iβm doing the Divine Realm level in peaks of time and I see two different buttons to press. Should I go for blue or green? Also, what is the best lineup for the Divine Realm Level?
I should keep using fawkes brutus rowan shemira rosaline until I summon lucius right?
@lost swift use belinda and brutus get rid of rowan and get a mercenary rosa also get rid of shem
@pale kettle you have to do it twice, one all green and one all blue i think, u can just look up a youtube video
I can still use a merc as well
I'd try for Tasi Athalia Fera Rowan Lyca, dodge end to stop Saveas spears, can move Rowan and Athalia. Otherwise Eironn Lyca Fera Athalia Tasi, Eironn can also fit in 4
Iβll try that and see if they can dodge enough to survive the mauler one shot crits
You can borrow my friends janky comp lel
@torpid crag Iβm so puzzled on how that worked , and now I want to see if I can borrow a Brutus from someone
Can probably try your mythic one. Not like Brutus played a big role there
But maybe khasos is good. Who knows 
Way to beat it without talene?
Were the screens even taken the same day? Lol. That sneaky grezul went ascended and gained 20 levels
Haha yea I just ascended him earlier
Jdizz it actually works, but my Brutus dies to quick to make it a gutenteed win
Curious if you can clear it without a healer there. 1. Grezul 2. Shemira 3. Ferael 4. Fawkes 5. Rosaline
@rocky crescent aw that's a shame lol
@torpid crag I love you, that made 25-12 a cake walk.. 7 damn tries
Oh right, athalia, maybe swap Rosaline and Fawkes position if your gear sucks
Lol had a lot of people clear ch 25 before t2 gear was released. The comps get even wierder
@torpid crag ok will give it a shot thanks
@idle oriole
@winter matrix will check that out as well but my Lucius is quite weak and I can't merc
Been stuck for two weeks now, so need some help!
@lost swift May have to merc a solid Rosa
Cant think of any way to improve gb 170. Lots of merc possibilities though.
Currently using ferael eye, shemira blade, chalice thoran, call grezhul, grace nara
Isnt chalice better on grez?
Who does your thoran banish @teal glade ?
Also you might need to merc a better nara with call.
Thoran procs on ira. I've had a few tries with my nara not being strong or ulting where she came close to dying where it felt like it she dies i win
You might need to merc nara with call.
Then your ferael probably needs eye or call so he can scare seirus before he can use his aoe attack.
If you put call on ferael, eye on shemira and vice versa
I'll try out eye in shemira. Threw call on ferael thinking the same and just gave grace back to grez. I'll try the eye for now till I can get a better nara
@ornate totem have you tried to Thoran π§ it?
Yep. Nara is mostly the key hero in these stages to keep tasi locked in.
Ended up moving around too cause of ezizh horror or whatever that taunt was
This process would kill ira faster , but tasi will end up banishing your most best hero
Ahhh I see. That's why people nara jn the mid. Does that mean the taunt can be dodged?
Yep. If you see a tasi, always try to nara it. Taunt ?
Ezizh taunting the furthest enemy
Yes it can be cancelled if ferael scares him. Thatβs why you need to rerun it till ferael possibly scares the front two heroes
@ornate totem
Rowan/Lyca
Kelthur
Thoran
Eironn
Lorsan
Should be able to cheese that stage for you.
Ooo kk. Love me a good old rng spam reset stage π«
Yes any stage with wilders and Ezizh is cancer in gb tower
Yea between nemora tasi and ezizh my shemira may as well be a dead slot in 99% of tries rofl
best is to wait a merc a good nara i hope.
Yea I'll leave it for tomorrow and hopefully this guy comes on and tosses me his +20. Wont have call but itll be way more useful than the one I have. If not I'll have to wait for sunday whe mmercs reset and have a guilty out his aside
Any help for a good lineup for chapter 8-12?
Ges need merc thoran si-30??
Move Rowan up to Brutus , and Belinda to 4 . Make sure Belinda double ult into Fawkes dispell @ornate totem
hey everyone! should I feed my E+ Mirael and Hogan to Belinda to make her legendary or should I wait?
@cobalt radish in this occassion, yes. because she is your carry and level capped. normally you should wait until you can make the heroes L+ straight away
cool, thanks!
hello, plz i'm stuck at 11-22 which lineup can I build ? (I know I ascend to many heroes... my bad, it's done, can't reset this sh*t)
@gentle spade Yes! Swap Shemira for Lyca, make sure that enemy Silvina targets Rosaline by decreasing her defense rating, so she will be able to run from Belinda through Mehira
Also is eatrilda any good in this comp? Got her to e+ and im thinking on lvling her so i can be able to pass the 140 mark later
Hi @north siren, so as you said the way you ascended isn't great but don't worry that much, it's just that it's not optimal but in the long run it won't matter that much. Your absolute priority is to save all your Graveborn fodder for Shemira and to continue buying Shemira in lab shop. Right now, your DPS carry will be Safiya. You always need your DPS carry to be 20 to 40 levels higher than other heroes (if you haven't done it yet, read the 1 page quick guide pinned in #classic-questions ). So, with that in mind, put Your Safiya level 160/170 and other heroes level 120/130. Then you can do :
Safiya
Lucius
Rowan/Belinda
Brutus
Rosa/Belinda
The problem is that Rosa+Safiya isn't the best combo in the world, since Safiya spends so much time channeling her ult, but it's better than nothing.
@violet igloo thank you very much π
@gentle spade if you haven't done it yet, read the 1 page guide pinned in #classic-questions, try not to ascend heroes to Legendary (except Shemira) until you can put them to L+ straight after. Be patient and plan ahead for ascending heroes. Your priority is to put Shemira to Legendary. Instead, you can use Belinda since you have put her to Legendary. Put Belinda to level 140, and other heroes to level 100. Then you can do :
Belinda
Hogan
Rosa
Brutus
Lyca
@north siren your welcome, read the guide it'll help you a lot π and don't hesitate to ask more questions
@violet igloo i dont have hero dust yet to put her to 121 and also i thought u shouldnt put heroes to L instead of directly to L+ cause you could use them for fodder
yes, exactly. That why you shouldn't have put Belinda to L.
even if you reset other heroes to level 100, you can't put her past 121 ?
Any idea?
Nemora out , safiya top side and rowan on 4 @visual bramble
Any new formations to try in this?
Need help can't kill it :/
Fawkes
Brutus
Gwyn
Arthur
Belinda @still ivy
Move the Nemora out for the Rowan @tidal zodiac
@violet igloo but when in hell am i going to fodder bel
@gentle spade you don't fodder belinda, she's not a fodder hero.
@stray pine i cant defeat saveas 1vs1 π©
Heroes that you can fodder are the ones that you open in blue in packs (non-ascended tier heroes)
Nope didn't work @stray pine
Then my thought was she would never be a problem to be L if im not fodder her
@gentle spade the thing is, it's best to WAIT until you can put her L. Because there is a chance that you might not open more copies of her in a very very long time and she will be stuck in L for a long time. Then you will have lots of heroes stuck in legendary. Have you read the 1 page guide ?
@stray pine the thing is i cant wipe the enemies ASAP, while they 1 / 2 shotted my team. So its always going to saveas VS saveas
Try again but let Gwyn top , Rosa mid replacing Belinda and Fawkes on 5 @still ivy
Since you have the fodder , you can just ascend Belinda to L+ . Gear her with same strat
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Skreg
Belinda
@stray pine it was closer but seirus took them out after they beat tasi
Keep trying till you win i guess @still ivy you can try letting Arthur tank the Athalia but Brutus rid Tasiβs evasion and can tank
Prob try again with
Rosaline
Brutus
Gwyn
Arthur
Fawkes
That almost worked it left Thalia against Arthur but he was low hp and died @stray pine
Any help with a good Soren lineup?
Keep trying , youβll get there @still ivy
@pale kettle grezhul/warek, shemira, rosa, rowan, belinda
Very stuck!
Been stuck for weeks! Any tips?
Fawkes
-Rowan
Gwyneth
-Rosaline
Lucius
Whatβs the best Soren team
Need help clearing this boss fight
Any lineup help?
Try this @night gorge
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q56CIhhL55Y.
And if you Google 26 52 yukinari YouTube you'll find a bunch of lb comp. I am unfamiliar with lb unfortunately
I think it's better if you nick from the top and control bottom. Let's see, try
Try
Saveas
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus (luc)
Fawkes @autumn crown
Wukong luc Rosa safiya tasi mayeb @topaz pumice. 1 to 5
@night gorge
Darn for this im missing fera
Hey, absolutely stuck here for days, any ideas ? :(
@short sonnet Sure!
Please share your hero roster and formation vs the enemy! π
@short sonnet
Lyca
Lucius
Rowan
Talene
Nemora
Gonna try that thank you ! π
Make sure Nemora charms Arden, and Arden possibly rooting Athalia! @short sonnet
Gotcha, thank you very much 
Replace Shem with gwen and try
Gwen
Brutus
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
See if you can interupt arden first with gwen @graceful wind
need help very stuck!!
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Rowan
Fawkes
@ornate totem
If you'd like an artifact check please let me know! π
Currently doing. Saewas, fawkes, Hogan, brutus, and necro witch lady. I got some new troops and was wondering if anyone had any ideas?
@heady siren no dousent help
Nothing?
@sage grove saveas is the best early game carry, make sure to overlevel him. he works well with brutus in front of him and an arden besides him. i suggest a lineup like
saveas
brutus
arden
gorvo
nemora/solise
I thought shermia and vedan are like too tier
shemira will be your next carry as saveas max level is 160 at L+. vedan is an ok carry, but not as good as saveas
if you havent already done i recommend to check out the guides in the pinned messages of #classic-questions
You could also choose athalia as your carry, until level 100, since you are likely not able to use her that way again later for a long while. Meanwhile saveas gains nice extra tankiness at 101 so you could switch to him by then.
any tips for 24-60 ? ;;
@wicked pelican try mercing thoran he is very good for cheeseng athalia levels!!!
@ornate totem i can't use mercenary this week anymore, i saw that almost everyone in the winning formations used him for this stage but mine's only l+ so i guess i'll have to wait until sunday π₯Ί
Grezhul?
He did some dmg xD
Abit stuck on 194 now cant be bothered doing thoran π§
Hate that nara xD
Any tips? Been stuck for a long while
Vedan is the problem
Hi there. So basically I am able to make my nemora ascended but I prefer my tasi. I've never really used nemora but have just had luck pulling her. Is she better or as good as tasi?
This a lil bit rough. Let's see try
Luc
Brutus
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
I assume Rosa on Belinda so she can crockery seirus while top tanking kaz for she might need to much time to deal and with tasi blinking Belinda may ult on shemira or kaz+ulmus @wide seal
Need Help!!! 27-36 Been stuck here for over 3 weeks. I can hire as mercenary most of the popular heroes at +30 SI if that helps.
Tried Thoran +30 cheese strat and retried over hundreds of times but it didn't work
@still oar thanks will try that
@keen bone https://youtu.be/5xcUWm5PfGo
Credits to Djelone for insane Thoran :P
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Don't forget to subscribe and leave a comment if you want to ask smth.
Just incase
Get back +30 thoran merc...
@opal gulch
Thanks my lord

@spare girder This video is what made me use thoran, I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said i tried over 300 times mostly the same formation as in video.
Although I have all heroes in the video with similar SI, the difference is the team lvl. In the video they are 291 while I have 284 that is a big jump.
@keen bone looks like a half decent Gwyneth level, but I'd try a couple first.
- Arthur 2. Tasi 3. Belinda 4. Rowan 5. Lucius
Or - Arthur 2. Rowan 3. Belinda 4. Rosaline 5. Lucius
Can possibly put Belinda in the 4 position instead, but I think 3 is better
Also can potentially use Fawkes across from brutus
Goal would be to cleanse the roar immediately, so he'd need to dodge all the hits, coffin then cleanse. And would need dura's call. Fairly high RNG start lol
Thaine destroys my team!
@torpid crag Thank you, any recommended artifacts? like duras call for tasi or rowan or rosa? who to priorities?
If you're having Rosa follow Rowan, then Rowan gets the call. If you want Rosa to follow tasi, then tasi call. If you want Rosa to follow Belinda then tasi call. If you are front lining Rowan and he can't survive with call, then Lucius call
Rosa following Rowan or tasi would have a good chance of winning at low level with no celestials
Followed by Belinda if you can kill the skreg
I am about to be able to make a light bearer L+. My question is: given my line up would it be better to do Lucia's or Belinda.
In battle lucius, but belinda is easier to ascend further, since u have one more copy, and can buy her
Plus you already have more Belinda
@idle oriole Fawkes coffins lyca?
So I would swap out Belinda with sav as my primary carry then?
Sav can still carry you so no need to rush
I feel like either option would work in it's own way, I'm in chapter 12 and sav is still killin it for the most part. Tbh I could use better tanks in front though
@limber silo i'd go for belinda, she can be your carry + u will get hwr to ascended anyway since shes available from store
@limber silo just take your time, save and summon. Make good long-term decisions and it'll all work out eventually
Nothing to Ascend in Wilders wait for either 1 copy of Tasi (the most optimal), Lyca (2nd best) or Kaz (my personal best) then use the fodder on them. If u want to just get their SI then Tasi and Lyca for sure.
For GB you really want Ascended Ferael and Thoran (for cheese). Grez is decent and Isabella is good sometimes.
As for your maulers... Nothing much is happening there. Honestly
@sharp plinth
@spare girder he gets interrupted before he can coffin
Was wrong channel anyway rip
Help?
@idle oriole
Nemora (charms their Nemora to charm Seirus is the RNG here)
-Shemira
Lyca
-Brutus
Nara
Ok will give it a shot
@graceful wind
Arden
-Brutus
Lyca (or Tasi probably)
-Ulmus
Belinda
Ulmus is meant to root them for Belinda to nuke them
so... how come?
Use Rosa for Lyca
Niru kills her
weird how Belinda isn't dropping them tho' how's her gear like?
Put the eye on Belinda and try again... Normally for mages I get the staff first for more DMG.
no one saw it

r u sure about that 
F

Can you post an ss of all your heroes?
Try
Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes/Rosaline
Your Ulmus is too weak that's the problem... and I can't see better tanks you can use to stall for Belinda
That may work^
@graceful wind who does fawkess cofin?
Khasos
Okay i'm further than ever but not far enough, isabelle remains with a almost brutus
@graceful wind hmm use fawkess ult to insta kill brutus when he goes immune.
Since fawkess removes his last grasp buff
I have it on auto
Do it with auto off, you can time the ults better than auto
Whats that backline? :) @graceful wind
I mean the enemy backline isnt loaded xD
Any help?
Try
Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Belinda
Gwyn/Estrilda @graceful wind
Other question is does faw cofin ferael before he fears :)
Doesn't work
If he doesnt coffin before fear you can try
Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Belinda
Lyca
Yes before fear
Hmm try
Rowan
Belinda
Nemora - needs to charm ferael
Brutus
Rosa
Hey guys which team would i recommend me? Im pretty new and habe no clue
Rosaline
Lucius
Mirael
Wukong
Tasi @elfin burrow
@elfin burrow β¬οΈ that and read the pinned mesaages in #classic-questions
Does he fear his own teammaten than?
Yeah @graceful wind
Niru and isabelle remain
Stuck for one week
@graceful wind hmm give it a few more trys :) u can also swapout rosa for lyca or arden, but u lose 10% bonus that way
@royal grotto prety sure it wont work, but try
Nemora - charm arden
Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
@trim sage belinda, I'm on chapter 19 and shes still hard carrying me
@trim sage go read the pinned messages (3 dots if ur on the phone) in #classic-questions :)
27-24 any lineup? Iβm copying the same lineup on the winning formation and it does nothing
@topaz eagle that formation is relying on Thoran to retaliate and kill everyone.... very rng heavy and takes a lot of retries... alternative is to try
Nemora
-tasi
Eironn
-Lyca
Safiya
(Something among those lines... Eironn pulls gb and silvina off mage... hopefully banish shemira or Safiya... maybe put Nemora on bottom to charm remaining mage)
Since Eironn isnβt +30, can also try Ferael instead... and Nara for Safiya... pull Safiya to prevent field
i clear this with lucius rowen nara ferael fawkes 280 team no si 30 @topaz eagle
At hero level 100ish, my back line is Saveas, Tasi, and Arden. My front line so far is Lucius. Who should be my other front liner out of Gorvo, Brutus, Wu Kong, and Hogan?
@royal grotto prety sure it wont work, but try
Nemora - charm arden
Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
@ashen mantle hey, she did charm arden but seirus hits so hard that I can stand for only few seconds
@royal grotto
@royal grotto
@winter matrix Thanks a lot, I seem to be underleveled but will try it with mercanaries and so
@royal grotto tough so xD
Thats a scary amount of L+ heroes, RIP fodder
Lyca
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Nemora @heavy ivy
Will try with mercenary rowan
E+ will work, just reset until you get charm on arden
@heavy ivy lyca- grace/eye, shemira- blade/eye, rowan- call, brutus- chalice, nem-? XD
Any pointers here?
@dusty spoke
@topaz eagle generally i think safiya stages are good places for nemora charm, didnt take too long for her to kill her own team
@winter matrix ty
I'm sooo stuck i have tried everything but isabelle with niru remaining kills all
I DID IT!!!!
The rng liked me for once!
@winter matrix @ashen mantle thx for supporting me!!!
25-44 could use help please. Why are people with 240 thorans able to clear this but i cant
Currently where I'm at. I got Sig items on Belinda (+7) and Lucius (+1). Stuck at 14-34.
Is there any way to beat this without using ascended khaos?
@nocturne furnace what floor it is?
@bright root belinda out, rose middle so she can dodge athalia fwokes behind brutus
yea i tried that mixowned and they get obliterated
@bright root then try thoran tactic
Noob here. Who should I put in the crystal next? Ignore Belinda Iβm just saving her for ascension
finally beat it needed to switch shem with my belinda and i wonXD
@weary cobalt mauler 140
Iβm having trouble with this one -m- This almost worked but alas Vedan just managed to beat Kelthur in the end
I hope so
Patience.
How do I upload a photo? Tia
JustI finished area 5 , going to reset and wanted to know best move forward
Currently using Fwd-skreg+grezhul Back-saveas/safiya + shemira + nimisu
Just picked up antandra.. advice please, tia
Im about to finish stage 24 so please help me how to win this athalia is strong af
Ok nvm i finished it
Can i get 3 legend challenger teams Suggestion 1st pic is my hero pool and second is what im using now. Pls n thank u
Need help to pass this
Start focusing on upgrading ur lucius and belinda combo unless u wanna be stuck at chapter 23 forever
@idle oriole
@winter matrix my Lucius sucks but I'll try it
Pls help
Try
Tasi/Belinda
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Saveas @visual bramble
Team 1 :
Belinda/Rowan/Fawkes
Estrilda/Lucius
Team 2:
Shem/Nara/Fera
Thoran/Grez
Team 3
Nemora/Eironn/Lyca
Brutus/Tasi @brisk storm
Mauler 60 I feel like I should level some other stuff seems stupidly annoying to play against
Merc a good Khasos and then do
Saveas
Brutus
Khasos
Skreg
Vurk
Okay will do that thanks
Any hope fellas?
Iβve retried a lot with different comps but itβs just ass beat. Should I just wait for more exp
Get Shemira to 200 and then you can try
Fawkes
Lucius
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
belinda dies every time before she can ult I even tried vitality
@winter matrix I see, tysm!!
@midnight breach Have you tried;
Rowan
Fawkes
Belinda
Rosaline
Lucius
?
Because Rosaline and Belinda escaped both Eironn's pulls, Fawkes coffined top Eironn*, and they harassed Ezizh to death.
Later on Rosaline and Rowan kept healing Belinda so she won't die by Ezizhs and Seirus
Best of luck further on!
@midnight breach
thought i only loosing because everyone sitting on theire ults but cant ult 
Top Eironn has an energy boost I believe he starts on like 120 energy points not 0, so he casts the ult faster with the 100 energy per 3 seconds and that triggers their ultimate-prevention ray
make sense then (:
What's the best team comp for Arthur?
@pale kettle gwyneth behind Arthur is very good + LB backline, and also Solise has synergy with arthur. You can find something like :
Gwyneth
Arthur
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes/Rosaline
for example. But I'm not an expert in Arthur comps to be honest.
Thanks! π
Can anyone help with Floor 80 of the Mauler tower? Nara seems to pull whoever she wants even tho she's supposed to pull straight across and I just keep getting stomped. Not sure what to do here.
@ionic scaffold
Hmm... this seems rough but maybe try;
Vurk
Brutus
Skreg
Khasos
Satrana (after putting her in Crystal)
You might need further ascending.. because your Khasos is not at a carry level yet.. I think he does best at level 240
Nice well done! π
Ty ty! And thanks for the advice! Satrana did so much damage holy moley. :V
They are all clumped together so her explosion affects more of them, since they're near each other ^^ she is very useful yes π
Help
Who would get coffined/banished?
@winter matrix saveas literally 1 shotted all my teams except saveas π
Anyone got some help for this
Fucking hate wilders every tine i encounter them im fucked
Can't seem to beat 14-36, are my levels too low?
Got anymore good graveborns @analog summit?
@analog summit you have a good comp. Try with wilder backline instead, so if that works better (probably not since you're vs full mauler team). You can also try to replace Lucius by Brutus if he dies too fast. And swap Brutus position with shemira so that Brutus can tank all the damage from Saveas
Wilder dies too quickly, i can level all my heroes to 150 should i do that?
@gloomy coral
For starters, i would recommend shemira close to 220 over 181 crystal. Then try
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden with duras call
Will still be quite hard, i reckon.
Help please, this warek flips w/e into instakill
Use brutus over lucius for such wareks
But without lucious ulti everyone else dies/
Can drop nemora for Bruts? and swap with Luci?
Luci
Brutus
Rowan
Shem
Fawkes
Don't charm warek you'll only make him stronger XD
Can you amek your shemira 220, it will make it easier and maybe try
Ezzih
Fawkes
Nemora(mehira)
Shemira
Rowan
You need a good dodge fawkes for this. And if you use nemora in the middle instead of mehira try either charm brutus so he will roar and his mates if not confined or saveas so he can help you killing his own team
@south pagoda
Okay, I will try that
But Fawkes and Ezzih are a bit weak in terms of gear, Fawkes doesn't dodge much
Been stuck here for days
Ezzih is fine he is just there to hasten energy gain since roar+that many heavy dd is dangerous. You really need to shut down roar in this stage or make shemira stacks as many ult as possible @south pagoda
@mystic willow
Nem
Fara
Tasi
Lyca
Nara
That's what I used to beat that level I believe and I'm quite a bit lower level than you.
How much dmg?
@modest lintel I solved it by doing rowan Eironn front with Tasi, Mehira and Lyca backline. But thank you very much
I dont know if this happens often but I was at chapter 12 and I would always try to keep my own team's power 10% more than the ennemy otherwise I wouldnt attack, when I came here and realzed some 600k formation could kill 1200's and such, I tried to simply push forward as mucb as I could and here I am at chapter 15 now, beinf slowed down a bit but still being able to advance with repeated attempts and mercs.
I unlocked 3 new features
could someone Help me to get 3 Teams for the current event ? I feel like the teams I'm using now are not optimal solution
@midnight breach can u help me?
my brain is not big enough and I know to little about the game sorry @wheat hemlock
@wheat hemlock post a screenshot of your heroes
@midnight breach here's 3 teams (the idea is to do 2 good ones, and last team is filled with the rest)
Ferael
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Fawkes
Shemira
Nara
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Belinda
Brutus
Khasos
Kaz
Safiya
you could swap Nara with Brutus, the 3rd will be even more trash but the 2nd a bit better
@wheat hemlock I highly recommend you read the 1 page guide pinned in questions if you haven't already, you have ascended too many heroes to legendary
:(
So in 20 summons I got talene and athalia and not sure if I should use ? Or if I should change my line up anyway
I understand but can you help my?
@wheat hemlock it's not a big mistake, it'll just delay you a bit, it's not optimal. That being said, here's a line up for you. Put Shemira level 180 and other hereos level 140 :
Fawkes
Shemira
Lucius/Rosa
Brutus
Belinda
@violet igloo thank you very much will try
but in the first team , who will do dmg ? fawkes and fereal are not that good geared also fereal SI is not even 10
Need some help passing this
Help lol
@shy crag
I'm trying to go complete undead I need one more
Just got athalia and talene but not sure if I should use them, what should my line up be?
Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Skreg
Khasos/Vurk @clever iron
Overlevel Saveas then Brutus and Skreg then everyone else
@plush patrol try putting Brutus in front of Khasos.
Nope, still no luck ;x
How am i going to DEFEAT this?
kaz just deletes shem
Any help for this stage tryed everything
Anyone able to give advice for switching up my lineup? This worked to get me out of a rut, but Iβve been stuck for over 24 hours so I wanted to check in and see if I missed something.
What's the best possible lineup for Maulers King's Tower?
Ive used brutus warek sofiya numisu and khasos till now(floor 170) sofiya is definitely a carry
How to beat this floor
Merc khasos and put him in the middle and rng it. Vurk poison might help @grand widget
Ok thanks @still oar
What do you guys think? I'm just starting out but I think this needs some tweaking
Try
Shem
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius (brutus)
Tasi(nemora)
If lucius try rng it so luc can pop his shield up after that it's probably just a matter of Shemira ults 2x with the help of Rosa
If brutus try charm kaz or if possible even Arden albeit the chance is lower since he will probably root faster @calm basalt
The recommended order of leveling up is carry>tank>support
Pick your carry can be either Belinda or wukong. From the order of your leveling up I guess you're relying on luc+Rosa to pop shield and do defensive and nicking the enemies slowly and if it's still working keep doing it for now @upper coral
my guys just get shredded
Any help appreciated... My shemira gets melted
Iβve been stuck here for a while now
Decent line ups for Guild Hunt Wrizz & Soren?
I was thinking of putting Wu Kong in the back and rerolling vurk's xp into Warek for fromline. Is that crazy?
That's 3 heavies, though
No idea what kind of lineup I should make
Also how should I level up? Lvl all to the same?
Hi @glacial flume first of all, i highly recommend you read the 1 page quick guide pinned in #classic-questions it'll help you a lot π
So what you should do, is level Saveas to level 70 and put all other heroes to level 40 approximately. Then you can do this line up :
Estrilda
Saveas
Arden
Hogan
Wukong
this line up will probably change rapidly the more you open heroes
been stuck on this stage for a few weeks, i'd appreciate some tips π₯Ί i can get another mercenary if that helps
Any tips for this
@urban minnow Have you tried full crowd control lineup? and energy reduction tooγΌ
Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Ferael
Rowan
@gentle spade Hey there! have you passed yet or do you still need help?- ^^
@wicked pelican The easy way out of this match is the biggest Thoran cheese but it might be possible with your heroes-
Lyca (dodge Athalia)
Tasi
Nemora
Rowan
Lucius
@plush patrol Swap Brutus for Lucius, see if it does any difference~
still need help ^^ @heady siren
Stuck on 26-14 any advice appreciated!!
@heady siren no luck, Lucius gets blown up lol
@gentle spade Okay!
Should you try;
Arden / Lyca
Rosaline
Tasi
Belinda
Lyca / Arden
@plush patrol Sheesh! this sounds really rough, but maybe if you'd swap Lucius' spot to be in the middle backline would he survive better and be able to tank harassment coming from the Thanes and Athalias?-
who should be my gear priorities? since the team is mad mostly of int heroes who deserves the better gear (aside from bel obv)
@heady siren thatβs a bit better. He survives long enough to ult now but shem dies before lucius shields :/
@gentle spade Well, considering the lineup, you will need to focus your items (gears, artifacts, etc) on Rosaline and Belinda, then Tasi, Arden (give him your best available magic boots so he will cast faster), and Lyca
@plush patrol Hmmm... Shem dies? then maybe put her up against the Thanes? they would deal less damage due to faction disadvantage than the Athalias..
ok i feel like rosa is diying too quickly cause if she is in the frontline with bel on the back she'll tank a bit then go towards bel but that way idk if she is getting that much value
I was relying on Arden's root speed to prevent Isabella and Grezhul to kill your Rosaline quickly- if you'd like a better advice please share your hero roster
ok ill try a few more runs and ill let u know how it goes also changing the items might do it
@heady siren ok apparently/unfortunately i havent been able to finish it so there you go
also i only have 1 artifact (grace) thats on bel ofc
@gentle spade First of all;
You should reset WuKong and Mehira from your main 5 heroes and level up Arden and Lyca instead, as they are Elite+ and will increase your overall level cap to 120, Mehira is a hard hero to get duplicates of, not to mention getting at all, and Wukong, even though he's available in the shop, you're more encouraged to buy Shemira duplicates early on-..
That will help stabilizing your Crystal level.
Level up Belinda to 140 and then try this formation :
Belinda
Lyca (Sacrifice her)
Arden
Rosaline
Brutus
i was planning on doing that but as i dont need it rn i just didnt do it yet
also tried that but without brutus (why brutus backline and without tasi)
btw i have space on the crystal to put someone on it if u feel like it would be a plus for my progress
Help
19-38 is a pain, any idea ?
@gritty quail
Rosaline
Talene
Twins
Arthur / Lucius
Gwyneth / Nemora (charm Ferael)
If you decide going with Lucius, put Nemora, if Athur, put Gwyneth. see if both works out for you ^^
Could someone help me out with three pvp teams for challenger arena?
1 could be shemira and rosa if u have it and wilder support
other could have belinda and mauler
and rowan
aslo whale
5 ascended at 115 yikes
Hello, does anyone know what the best lineup for Mauler Tower 60 is? I'm getting destroyed, I can't even kill 1 enemy... I beat Tower 60 of all factions easily except Mauler tower.
Hello guys, need help for this lineup it is 213 lvl LB Tower
Help me please
@uncut widgeti used this come just now and passed 60 as well took a lot of experience ratio since no one helped me
Give call to thenheionix one what I did
@uncut widget try using khasos middle back (position 4)
Thanks @solid mango
Thanks @ashen mantle, it worked! I put Khasos middle back and I beat it after a few tries :)
Use belinda instead of Saveas and use Shemira instead of Tasi, i think it might work
I still need help ;-;
I just pulled a brutus! should i replace wukong with him?
Can i get help
Any help?
Can't help if i can't see the battle formation
Any suggestions?
Stuck here on both accounts pls help
Anything I need to change? (Not for the mission itself but to become stronger)
How do i beat this? Thoran gets popped instantly after ressurect
I have two crystal slots open, Im currently using Belinda, Wukong/Hogan, Ira/Saveas, Nemora and Brutus.
Should I crystal Rosaline, Fawkes, Shemira or Rowan? π
Crystal level is currently 86.
Either Rowan or Rosaline, both are great supports for Bel (which I assume is your main carry) and the whole team
Either Rowan or Rosaline, both are great supports for Bel (which I assume is your main carry)
@pale kettle Yes she Is!
I do have 2 crystal slots open tho, So I COULD do Rowan and Fawkes, or Rosaline and Fawkes!
I figure Fawkes giving the faction bonus might be worth to replace Ira.
I could also reset Ira and just level Fawkes and add both tho!
Actually, yeah, for the sake of faction bonus replace Ira with Fawkes and add both supports
Any lineups for 26-10 ?
@pale kettle
Who should replace Hogan/Wukong/Brutus as my frontline tho?
Fawkes?
Im time's like this I wish I had Lucius on my main. : ^ )
You could put Rosaline up front. In most cases, she can dodge initial attacks and even push enemies away when on her sweeping state. If all goes well, it'll usually be a 5v4 fight and you'll have the advantage.
Awesome!
Ill give It a try, I appreciate you @pale kettle
25-24
Need some help. Cannot pass even with merc
Need lineup help for 27-1 please
Who should I change? (Not for mission only for power)
If you're looking to overcome level caps and increase your power then I'd recommend leveling up L-tier heroes instead and put other heroes you still wish to use on the crystal. They're easier to ascend, res crystal can be upped to 160, and they can be used as fodder later on when you need to.
@pale kettle
I'd personally recommend going AFK for a bit, as you seem to be underpowered for the stage.
@proud grove
ah ok
Help, enemy saveas always murders all my team
Any help appreciated
@wicked chasm don't Ascend so many Heroes to L
Who should I ascend then?
Only Ascend to L if u have another E+ copy to push that Hero to L+ . Exceptions are fodder Heroes (L-tier).
Okey @quiet barn thanks
Also you have levelled too many heroes, you only need 5 manual levelled players, after that your crystal will look after the others
Yep I get it
@olive fulcrum get your Shemira level 180 and others level 150. Take out your 2nd Nemora out of the crystal.
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Lucius/Brutus
Tasi
Alright ty so should I play with Lyca even if she is only elite? @violet igloo
yes, she'll give haste to your entire team, then probably die. You just want Shemira to survive and ult.
I would recommend focusing on wilders if you have faction scrolls, they're really strong
you can read the guide pinned by V in this channel π
Ok will do ty
Any suggestions on a team that may work here?
Any suggestions on who to ascend? Thinking of Khasos but Satrana seems like a good option as well
Khasos is vital for mauler tower because of his LL passive and also you can buy him from the shop. So go for him.
Help, tia
@spare girder Thank you!! π
@upper zinc does fawkes coffin Ferael?
yes @spare girder
One Arden from A eironn. Is swapping him out for Brutus viable? Moving Brutus' gear to Wu Kong and Warek. Also a few stones from +10 SI on him, and making him my next +20
@upper zinc swap Rosaline for Lyca probably or swap Rosaline and Belinda's positions. One of them should work.
@austere stag Actually swapping out Warek for Eironn is more meta in PvP because Eironn and Brutus have good synergy the team is like:
Lyca
Brutus
Eironn
Tasi
Nemora
Eironn pulls for Brutus to spin on 3 enemies at once
@spare girder oh, My warek deals way more damage than my brutus atm though, and I'm still 3 copies short of ascending him. Is he viable just as a first slot tank then?
@spare girder tried almost everything and failed. maybe ill just wait for a few days. thanks!
just swap saveas with tasi
Oh thanks I'll try that
@delicate trout tried fighting the stage 10 times but got defeated in all 10 matches
of course, ok, send me your hero pool @stray cypress
@austere stag warek is viable just not in that team I'd suppose π€
@stray cypress swap tasi and saveas
saveas
hogan
rowan
luci
that GB assassin
Okay ill try both of your suggestions
I dont know what im doing wrong but i still kept on losing hahahahaa
@stray cypress level up ur tank
or, maybe this is sounds not good, but why not
saveas
hogan
silvina
luci
tasi
Okay ill try that thanks
Just reset the saveas, put all the levels in to solise and use her instead of saveas 
Saveas is some old school stuff lel
Maybe if he was legendary he'd be better
Sure ill try that too

@torpid crag hey thanks man. Solise worked.
You're still good taking saveas up, but nowadays he doesn't have to be the carry, because wishlist is op. Gosh, I had an L+ belinda way before I had an L+ saveas on my alt lol. Nowadays you can just push almost any aoe hero up before him
Now im stuck in the next stage hahaha anyways thanks bro its just my 2nd day of playing
Great you're checking guides at least. Won't be too hard to progress
Yeah. I guess I'll just level them up and wait for day 7 to get my bel. I played a while ago and reached chap 14 i guess but i stopped and when i came back theres so much new stuff so i created a new acc
Yeah games has faster progression and less variance so probably better to just start new
Anyways any tips on how i can beat 6-28?
But I'm a whale, don't know too much about progression 
Ohhh i wish i have the money to spend on the game
Well, you can put Wu Kong on the crystal and use him instead of tasi, you should have a ton of sustain and no damage haha
Or use another damage dealer instead of tasi
But you're close to simply needing levels
Ohh thanks my main carry was wukong in the early levels but figured maybe saveas or solise can work better.
He's pretty annoying in pvp too early game so might as well keep him on the crystal. Can be decent secondary damage
I'm sure you'll replace him before you hit 140 though 
Everyone pushing hard today 
need guidance as to which heros to use and where to put in my rescourses
@fervent rune 1.talene 2.belinda 3. Nemora 4. Solise 5. Fawkes
Any help is appreciated π€
Iβm horrible at this game please help. 18-13
@zachi
Could try putting nemora center back to charm specifically ferael
Try:
Shemira (1)
Brutus (2)
Lyca (3)
Nemora (4)
Tasi (5)
@tidal maple
What are the enemies on that stage?
Maybe try something like
Saveas
- Lucius
Rowan - Hogan
Fawkes
Though on a general note, if you use Saveas as a carry he should be the highest level in your lineup
So i should reset solise and put 90 levels in saveas instead?
just go wu carry in the early stages
Ill try both of your suggestions thanks!
wu and the wilder one as duo carry maxing them or wu carry with ronin behind him will clear you so mutch early on
Should i stay with Wilders?
@green python help pls
@green python ronin? And how should my line up looklike?
if you want to do wu carry max wu and ronin behind other whise triangle them if you want the wilders chick with wu as carry
Probably Rowan
wu and chick aboud same level wu in front line in middle behind chick and in the corner ronin or wu maxed in front with ronin in corner behind him
Oh okay thanks @green python ill do just that
@torpid crag nemora got oneshot and so did the rest of the team 

@fervent rune maybe shemira lucius front and back line the wilders
Oo i tried using the same team as before (belinda lucius Fawkes talene mehira) but putting belinda at the front and it totally worked !!
thank you for the advices 
@green python thanks man it worked beautifully.
What could be the best possible lineup there? I'm actually using
Shemira
------Lucius
Rowan
------Vedan
Mirael
Any heros you see that I should be using in my line up instead?
I think Lucius could potentially be better that Hogan, if he survives long enough to drop the ult, it may change the battle
@lime quiver get wu level wu and shimera only untill you have to up the others and play them as duo carry
@quiet fern same for you
Thank you very much
Time to afk farm like 3 days
Duo carry, just means I use both of those heros only? Where the from two spots of the lineup are?
no
you level them both simular as high as possible get the other for faction synergy
@lime quiver you can reset them in the cart thingy
they will be higher level anyways so just put them in the front
the other 3 heros are you for faction but you can improve the siutation by playing support heros there
Help π€
they dont need to be high level to be helpfull
@deep badge get wukong hes free right now and then look above
explained it allreadyπ
what do i do ? share?
you have to share on twitter or facebook if i remember correctly
you can share if you get smt new from a summon or change synergy
Oh yeah but I'm only leveling 5, if i reset one then some helpful heroes are going to be lvl 1
in libaray
that dosent realy matter the 2 of them will clear the early chapters solo
Also the only regular hero is vedan, but I can't replace Rowan and Lucius, maybe mirael
you can also do rowan wukong and ignore shimera
just solo carry wukong and some level in rownan
you dont have to play it like that if you dont want to just how i would push forward with what you got
Yeah I know, I just want to clear chapters and improve, I'm a newbie, so you are saying I have to reset mirael and put all levels on wu
level all of them to 61 and then put the levels in wu and shimera
you can also cut mirael levels completly and just put her in for faction buff
hjΓ«lp
Worked like a charm @tired gale
@undone venture maybe try using Fawkes instead of cecilia ?
Any advice?
Yeah overlevel your carry harder. It's gonna make pushing a lot easier
@lime quiver Have you tried;
Rowan
Wukong
Mirael
Lucius
Saveas
You are quite underlevelled, should you focus your future resources on Mirael, get her to at least level 95 and see if it works! ^^
Send help
@gritty quail
Rosaline
Talene
Nemora (charm Ferael)
Rowan
Twins (bait for Silvina so Ferael can be charmed)
Doesnβt work
@heady siren
Could you show the might difference by putting the lineups in preview mode? (Before entering battle)
Halp plox, mehiras are immortal
@heady siren I was doing that but then someone said I should level Wu first then shemira so I confused myself
@dire gull Try swapping Shemira for Nara, that should be enough, your formation looks good, cancelling out one Mehira will help you a lot. Make sure Thoran tanks bottom Mehira's harassment so the damage will be directed to his cursed victim.
@graceful wind
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi (sacrifice and increase faction bonus)
Belinda
@lime quiver Shouldn't focus Shemira while still being so early into the game, since Shemira's damage peak is at 161+, it's okay to focus her but she won't provide as much carry-potential until then, prior to then, heroes such as Belinda and Saveas are pretty much well-known carries in those stages of the game. ^^
Is it worth to reset Wu or mirael and start leveling saveas instead?
Not mirael, she's E+, but the monkey, or just level the lowest until 80
Got lucky and got a brutus. What line up should i use now? Anyone i should prioritise?
Stuck on 26-14
You could try and make do with the following: Lucius, Antandra/Wukong, Rowan, Fawkes, Saveas
This is with Saveas having the lead level-wise. Try to have him at least 20 levels above the rest of your team.
@stray cypress
Any ideas on how to do 17-40?
Need to borrow some Wilder for FT160 not nemora,tasi or lyca ,if anyone has msg me so i can add him
Please request on #mercenary π
@warm mauve
Kinda could but its not libary i need tho
Anyone????
That channel is not just for completing library unions, but is also used if you're looking for mercs @warm mauve
Got it m8
Can you post your full list of heroes? @pale kettle
What mean dm you or no m8?
Not necessary, just upload a screenshot here
Wait have to hide something one sec
Here
Since you seem to have Shemira at M+, up her levels first to 200 so that she can carry your team. Once you're done, give this a try:
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Rosaline
Shemira
@pale kettle
@pale kettle okay much obliged m8
@undone venture maybe try using Fawkes instead of cecilia ?
@fervent rune didnt work, tried already
@pale kettle so like this
Yes π
Thanks ππΏ
@pale kettle can I ask to talk to you in question? About a m gear for shemira?
@heady siren
Pls help
Just for lols, what are yβalls suggestions 
please help me, hard stuck
GB Tower lvl 148
@lament birch
from today
@pallid lake just use hypo and celestials 
World tree 95 any advice?
@heady siren didnt really work out
Help me please
In certain stages where enemy Ferael is involved, charming him using Nemora should do the trick. It will require a few restarts, but it'll be worth it if she charms him successfully. Give this a try:
Nemora
Lucius
Fawkes
Rosaline (assuming she's the one on the bottom-right)
Belinda
@wintry rapids
22-42. Oh, this hurts. Can anyone give me a hand here? No matter what I do, I just get properly curbstomped
Hey guys, this is my current line up! I'm going to upload another picture with my list of heros. Would you change anything? I like LB/Wilder but Graveborn seems like it would be fun to make a comp with.
Help guys, been stuck for a while in 12-1. Feel like I should be able to beat with the toons I ahve. Any ideas?
getting straight up spanked like bbbaaaddd. Any ideas or tips? Winning formations aren't working even tho I'm much higher level and Ascension then them.
@split bolt try moving Rosa down, Rowan back mid and put Shem in the front
thansk no luck yet, team is getting melted. Feel like im lacking tanks, thinking of building up to a L* hogan for now
may take some time though, not even at E
22-42 is literally the hardest level been here a week...
Iβm having the same problem @fading bramble
Yep...
It hurts... Iβm way higher than you ffs and Iβm still getting melted
You have a lyca
She doesnβt help
She does her boost then dies like three seconds later, even with my friendβs mercβd Lyca
Do u have mehira?
I wish, but no. My only Hypogean is Ezizh, but heβs at E+ and not in my crystal
Here ill show u 2 comps. Try them
Or this. Not sure how strong ur heros are but try each 10x
Any ideas for graveborn tower 153?
@graceful hearth any luck?
Bottom lineup is eating it. Shem simply canβt go against skreg and warek without taking a beating
The annoying thing is she usually is a damn tank, but not with Warek chilling there and flipping the bird at her
Theyβre lucky. I feel like it should be so easy and yet Iβm getting slapped in the face
Skreg buff
Mhm
Send help
Just put the Rosaline on Rowan and spam them with coins
1. Twins 2. Talene 3. Rosaline 4. Rowan 5. Belinda
Best arena lineup for me?
Do i want to use my A belinda or my M shemira as a carry?
What can I do with this
Need lineup for 27-1 please
@pale kettle
Ah thanks!
you can replace athalia with any carry that works for you (ferael works, this comp just about cancelling ults)
Got it. Will try it now
Is it worth maintaining mono-faction teams? Also is Khasos's life leech really good?
How do I clear this?
HELP ME
I'm getting upset and no matter what I try it fails its it's like come on man ;w;
@lofty lake heres best tip for all early game vaden teams. Put you best 2x dps bot to kill vaden b4 he ults. Greatly increases your chances
So for you, hogan in 2 and bel in 5
I'd recommend setting up your heroes like this:
Estrilda
Lucius
Wu Kong
Silvina
Saveas
Prioritize leveling Saveas at least 20 levels above your team. If you still wish to use other heroes, use the resonating crystal.
As to expect though, it still highly depends on the enemies you face, so don't be afraid to experiment with different lineups, know the heroes' abilities and see which would benefit you the most.
If you have some free time, please read the pinned beginner guides here and on #classic-questions for quick progression.
@split flax
Like this @pale kettle ?
Close. Reset Isabella and level Saveas instead, making sure to overlevel him. Put Isabella on the crystal if you still wish to use her.
Oh, sure, go ahead
That good?
Looks good! As I said, make sure to prioritize levels on Saveas first, so he can carry your team well.
Thanks Wu Kong is really good at level 80+ rn especially for the chapter I'm at
and I forgot, here's an additional guide for campaign formations you might want to read: https://redd.it/feeuj3
Help please been stuck for days
@hardy sonnet first, I would make shem Lucius 240,and the next rowan 240, then lvl the others 2
you can try this
@brave oriole thankyou, I'll give it a go βΊοΈ
My back half keeps dying before the tanks even do?
I've won with this the 53
Iβll try thanks π
@brave oriole it worked so well
thanks so much
I dunno, try 1lucius 2wukong,3tasi, 4mirael 5estrilda. you team will change very soon anyway, you gonna pull much more heroes @amber folio
@pastel crypt
@brave oriole oops you sent message it wrong person
@amber folio look at Xpertaβs message to me meant for you
well, its too early to say from now @stray cypress. but bscly Lucius wukong, rowan middle and then i dunno, shemira and the wilder girl. but you need more than one shemira to get good.
Oh okay I'll do that @brave oriole thanks
but always make a. team around of rowan
@stray cypress @amber folio ik y'all asked abt lineups and i think xperta gave good advice, but a few general tips: early game, it's good to focus on L tier (max yellow border) heroes and get them up. You don't necessarily have to use them in your lineups, but they will help you break level caps faster due to their more widespread availability. There are two tried and true L-tier carries though: Saveas/Mirael. Both are alternatives to Shemira/others in the beginning. Also, the most direct method of progression is by buying only Shem until she reaches A (don't pursue stars and instead work on other lab heroes that aren't at A yet). However, until you can break 160 level cap, she won't truly shine.
Never use A tier as fodder; you'll need them later to raise your crystal level and even the trashiest hero might get buffed at some point (e.g. skreg, who is now an absolute unit). Also, don't be in a rush to make too many A-tier Legendary (yellow) heroes unless you can take them straight to L+ (check the ascension guide in #545929173471068170 for more info), bc they'll eat up fodder and slow down your progress significantly.
Don't make too many L+/M. Regardless of whether you are making L/L+: level is more important.To this day I'm using E/E+ heroes. And too many M, while granting you access to a large repertoire of signature items (special skills exclusive to a single hero), can also be a setback since they eat up so much fodder. If you focus on lots of them at the same time, you'll have a hard time breaking 180 lvls.
regarding gear: please don't buy any gear from guild store until you can get M (red) gear. from general store, buy elite stones whenever they appear and buy dust every day if you can. from challenger store, i wouldn't recommend focusing on athalia bc she is a long-term investment. i personally have only bought athalia from the store but that's also bc i've had ok luck pulling her from normal draws.
@stray cypress Saveas, WuK, Hogan, Rowan, Luc might work for a bit and you can try periodically swapping Fawkes in if you're stuck
Any ideas?
@raven spindle @zinc stump thank you both! :))
happy to help!
@still ivy maybe using arden would help
I've tried that didn't work out @brave oriole
@zinc stump
Tank dies too fast and saveas cant put up more damage what should i do?
@stray cypress swap Fawkes for Hogan and put Luc back row. Also dump all exp you can into Saveas. You'll want him up above 100
Okay ill try that
@still ivyit will. never work. from 1st,its about your arden random root. never used gwineth, but I'm sure that shem is much better than her till. late game. is your Arthur fused with Lucius?
Arthur is fused with shemira @brave oriole
@still ivy well, try this, put your dura's call on Brutus and front of arden, check if cancels his root, or even on arthus
@zinc stump sorry if i have too many questions man but i tried fighting 10 times but they still die way to fast
@stray cypressyou might be at that part of the game, where you need to stay afk and get more exp for your heroes, but you can always use Brutus to tank a few seconds
Im on 7-16 btw
@brave oriole oh maybe thats the reason why
@stray cypress yeah... I agree with him. You need some exp to dump into saveas or Mirael to get them to 100+ at that point especially without a Nem copy. Also check your unions to make sure they are bumped to best possible
@still ivyhe won't die with lyca combo
@still ivybut have you tried Arthur with dura's call vs arden enemy? does he root still? when arden is front I'm using mostly Lucius with call to cancel the root
alright i do that anyways thanks @brave oriole @zinc stump you've been a great help
@stray cypressyou can always play on another server or two, feels better than to wait and try hard again and again π
@stray cypressyou can switch the servers how you want when you want without loosing any progress
Oh okay ill try that as well :))
Arden mostly roots my gwyneth and Rosaline @brave oriole
Been stuck on this for quite some time
@amber jaydo you have an rosaline? I would try Brutus fron of. Lucius first, remove Belinda. and I would try then fawkes if have any to see if the coffins mirael
@amber jaybut, I would. keep Belinda l+ for a long time, focus on Lucius rowan and Rosa from lb faction. since you are going for shemira, no need belinda till later
Thanks for the suggestion, I passed it
@amber jay you're running a double carry which is cutting your efficiency. Since Shemira is under 161 dump all exp you can into Bel to get her up to 160 until Shem goes M. Swap out Shem for Rosa or a CC like Fawkes or Arden. I'd almost suggest reset Shem and manually Level Arden to 120 putting the rest of that exp into Bel to 160 her
Thanks for the suggestion I will try that
@amber jay Shem is inefficient in LB team and you'll have a harder time running her with LB. She needs the CC that the wilder trio provide for the time for her Ult to tick off health from the enemy. LB core teams are about speed kills and shem is a slow kill...
If you're sticking with Shem then you'll want to use the wilder trio as your core team.
@zinc stump are you serious about this? shem inefficient with lb team? π
@brave oriole I've tried both at same Ascension and level. Shem underperforms Bel in an LB team
@zinc stumpmaybe after chap 25..but not before
@brave oriole did the test in ch 20 with Shem and Bel both A 200
I was still able to use lb team with shem up to ch 27.
@brave oriole I mean I'm having 4 accounts, with shem+lb, bel shem both a, bel was never better than shem. till. middle of chap 25
So what team should I make rn
@amber jay go with Bel because she can hit 160 where shem is capped at 140
What should I pair with her then?
@zinc stumpfor ex, this account, ive used shem till 25 30 or so, then I had to use Belinda mostly. but trust me using bel, means that you need 2 tanks at all for your front line, while with shem, you only need lucius
and ive finished the chap 25 with about lvl 257 at all. with bell carry I would be stuck. somewhere on chap 24 still
@amber jay Luc, Rowan/Raine, Fawkes Talene can work for a bit. You'll want a Rosa copy in place of Talene and that team can get you a fair distance
@amber jay and dont abandon Bel even if you switch to Shem. Bel with 3 free copies and being champion shop is the fastest to A for F2P in the game even if you never use her...
@amber jay I normally run Bel front row over level with Grace. She is a good tank early game
@zinc stump would you ever buy her? when know that there's eironn who's late game dps? I think that Belinda it's to most easier ascended that you can get without to buy any copy. plus, on lb faction theres rowan the priority then Rosa Lucius. I strongly believe that everyone will get an A Belinda till chap 24, without buying any copy of her
Any suggestions on how I can pass this?
@brave oriole the goal is 5A asap. With Bel able to get there in 3-4 months for a F2P where others take 5+ theres no reason to hold back on getting that A. Eironn may be good late game but that is a mid to late game focus not 8 months to get A if you dont pull copies.
@zinc stumpeven with your goal being 5 A, as a f2p you still have to farm the dust, you can't speed up it. I've reached my 5A,always,when I had 2 heroes 240 or so, then I had to wait for the dust π
Best lineup please?
@calm nova if you didn't had this kelthur l+π, shem. could. be m by now. a good line up? maybe shem 160,lucius, Rosa rowan fawk. sometimes if Lucius cannot tank, Brutus front of him
@Koala in the Ocean#6540 dump levels into Bel to get her 160. Heres a ss from same chapter
@brave oriole I can fodder jelthur for shemira
@calm novanope, never do this π keep your ascended heroes elite+ mostly
@brave oriole you can speed up the dust. Further ch progress means more dust per hour.
@zinc stump the highest I can get her to is level 153
@calm nova fodders are only the legendary heroes
@zinc stump I know well, but look at this, check my lvl. I did everything right and still had to farm. dust for 240 wall
my point it's, you will always get the 5A before of the 240 dust
Any suggestions to this formation?
maybe 1 talene, 2 Brutus, 3 Belinda 4 rowan and 5 Lucius
Ok thanks Iβll try that
I would try the monkey King instead of talene tho
Ok Iβll put him on
@amber jay in front of Estrilda to get her to trigger WuK skill for avoiding CC
I did but I got beaten up pretty badly
how. looks your setup?
what artifacts do you have already?
Duras Grace, call, and eye
OK. I would put call on Lucius, eye on Belinda and grace on rowan. also try to swap Belinda and lucius places to. see how's working
Ohh, okay. so try this. Lucius, Brutus, Belinda rowan fawkes.
So like this?
yes, if anything, swap Lucius belinda
Also should I maybe level them up equally? Or keep it that way?
mh, nah won't work better. once Belinda is 160,lvl Lucius
Okay thanks. This is what happened
well, its a hard stage at all. they are all dps there π. fawk dies insta?
Yeah.
he need to coffin at all, I think he will Khasos but not very sure about
then put him up, and go for Lucius Brutus, fawk rowan belinda
This time went the same, only Belinda and Lucius stayed up for longer than four seconds
have you tried to use a mercenary? what's your ingame name? I will give you a shemira π
I do have a mercenary Shemira
Should I use her? She is ascended five star
yep use her instead of Belinda, this stage is painful, too. much dps
Oh that didnβt work well, shemira also died
But maybe it was because of her armor, she had some really bad armors on her
well, her armor is based on your top 5 heroes
Oh I see
so if you put better armor on them, sh will have a better gear, ofc, at your lvl and current gear won't be a huge diff
anyway, keep buying shemira copies and get her your carry, Belinda cannot tank much
I will do that, thanks for helping I used Fawkes ascended mercenary to finish that stage
yeah, was a better choice since shem was too. low lvl to carry 
@copper plinth could you send a screenshot of 16-40 here as well?
@copper plinthyou need call on Lucius, and to get rid of arden, so do you have any athalia or nara for arden?
I still can't understand why ppls are playing with shem and Belinda, and why they push Belinda if have shem already π, like in your situation, shem and Lucius m, could be a hella diff
just used fodder and was my only option at the time
your priority, should always be the front line, to have a strong one.
@copper plinth it's the double carry and lack of CC. I beat that with Bel Grace, Rosa Call, Raine eye, Luc, Fawkes in that order 1-5
try a nara or athalia anyway, and replace that Belinda with her
I would rather push a tank to 200,belinda it's not great with your current heroes. so maybe Rosa shem, ghez rowan arden
these are my units
@copper plinth try mhmm, Rosa shem, Lucius rowan nara
try this @copper plinth
arden will root and kaz insta kill shem π
talene will heal
okay
any suggestions @brave oriole on what i posted
I've replied already to you just didn't tagged you
ah my arden is only rare tho lmao and i dont have rosa
@copper plinth if those dont work you can try the wilder support..
tasi
brutus
nemora
lyca
shem
generally you are aiming for nemora to charm the arden and proceed to lockdown his own team.
@pale kettle that's weird to not have a Rosa already π, but, no joke, you need arden for lots of stages till chap 25
no i didnt feed btw lol
why lyca on frontline?
well, then, be like ghez shem fawk rowan and your r arden π @pale kettle, but better ghez 200 than bel 220
@copper plinthto protect shem
you only want her haste at the start @copper plinth
not sure about the rest of my team, i would appreciate any help
you dont need to thoran this one, it's easy
I need help on this one plz
@wicked pelicanso try shem with grace, Lucius with dura's call, Rosa rowan and, now if you want shem. to free hit, you need. lyca with sword artifact on her
any suggestions on what to switch btw i havnt touched them since forever
@brave oriole it's not really working, everyone is dying almost immediately. i've been trying different formations with shem since wednesday so that's why i want to use thoran here
@wicked pelican all you have to do it's to tank athalia and Thane. having dura's call on Lucius helps. but if you insist with Thoran...
try this 
any mehira would work dont have to be A
anyone got a rosa a i can borrow i can add real quick
Really need help on this last stage of chapter eleven
@amber jaymaybe swap fawk with Belinda, he dies there insta
Surprisingly he actually doesnβt for some reason
he dodge Khasos before to. coffin him maybe. try Belinda front of Lucius then
Putting Belinda in front of Lucius makes everyone die earlier
fawk. coffin Khasos right?
Yeah
then try Brutus Belinda, Lucius rowan fawk
if you remove your heroes, you will see 1 2 3 4 5.so 1 Brutus, 2 Belinda 3 Lucius 4 rowan 5 fawkes
Ok I did that but I got defeated
maybe use talene instead of. Lucius
tried to thoran it, its not possible since vedan or brutus is immune