I mean not like you can use the same comp all through campaign. But she can swap Gorvo out for Lucius too. Also ideally Rowan in place of Rosaline when she gets him.
#lineup-help
spare girder
graceful wind
spare girder
Anytime
clever patio
inland kite
pale kettle
Gear is hard to come by, so i have green, blue, and faction based with roles im not using. Need help as im stuck at 7-28.
inland kite
mystic sapphire
ashen mantle
@inland kite im 70% sure u cant do wrizz with those relics, and specially with pendant of force on top of it. "He will heal back up"
inland kite
I've beaten him with that on before.
ashen mantle
Its just a bad relic to have overall, since if u cant nuke him down fast enough his gonna heal 3x the hp back
inland kite
That's why I'm asking for a formation to try.
velvet snow
Been stuck on 25-10 for a while now, any suggestions or comps?
inland kite
Just give me something to try and I'll go from there, please.
ashen mantle
Hmmm u got twins?
brave oriole
@velvet snow just put athalia or nara vs safiya, dura's call on Lucius to hold Thane, and so on
wide breach
Should also probably get a faction bonus, tasi doesn’t really do anything there
inland kite
That's just experiments.
warm pawn
halp pls
unreal cobalt
Any ideas?
inland kite
Ugh this place has given me so much bad luck, wasted quite a few tears cause I didnt want to just give up
velvet snow
Used this comp and beat it thanks. @brave oriole
warm pawn
pls someone mind me 😢
warm pawn
hello?
sick basin
unreal cobalt
Me? :/ seems too hadd but idk why
winter matrix
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca
Try that @unreal cobalt
unreal cobalt
Thanks, i tried someti g similar but that one just pulled me through barely
warm pawn
pls stuck for 3 days on this 😦
winter matrix
Try
Gwyneth
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi/Fawkes
warm pawn
i'll give it a shot
o tho i can't let gwyneth not at center cause then she focuses belinda and 0 damage on the rest, so she has to go center
i don't have brutus xD
winter matrix
You can do
Gwyneth
Eironn
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi
And see if Eironn pulls them towards him so Gwyneth melts them
winter matrix
Just upgrade your levels and try again
warm pawn
i get so close with this lineup though
winter matrix
Well, work around that lineup.
Replace the things that dont do alot with heroes that do more and work your way to a win
warm pawn
i feel like i should go all in gwyneth cause everything dies so quick anyway
wheat mango
Hello guys, need help (chapter 13)! What to spend 30 faction scrolls? Fodder for M Shemira and use her as main carry? or lighbearers and lv team to 160. Tnx.
winter matrix
The fodder will come trough time, so I would do Wilders to hopefully get Tasi to L+ and some more Lyca
cobalt dagger
Hello, I just started again and this is my current lineup, is it good to invest or should I keep pulling?
I use Gorvo and Hogan on front
Then top to bottom back row Estrilda, Tasi and Belinda
winter matrix
Its a decent lineup for early game and you can do
Belinda
Gorvo
Estrilda
Hogan
Tasi
frail whale
How fked am I? I accidentally clicked through the warning message and I know have 2 legendary Saveas. How big of an issue is this besides the fact that I cant get hom to L+ right now...
winter matrix
You can Revert him for 500 diamonds and get Your Saveas back
frail whale
But my revert tab in the rickety cart is empty?
winter matrix
Shouldn't be if you have 2 same L heroes
ashen mantle
@winter matrix saveas is a L tier hero revert doesnt work on those
@frail whale kinda sad ull need to w8 abit longer :(
winter matrix
Rip
ashen mantle
Could be worse xD
winter matrix
Not a huge mistake, but just a minor setback
pale kettle
Should i go for fawkes in the challege store or ezizh?
winter matrix
If you don't have a Fawkes get one and then I suggest you buy Belinda to get her A
pale kettle
Okay I should be able to get him a little after reset
ashen mantle
@pale kettle also try not to spread ur fodder 2 much since ull need 2x L+ for L+ >M+ for 5 heroes so u dont get level caped
clever patio
prime cave
brave oriole
@clever patio you have to counter arden, and keep fawk to coffin tasi too, so try maybe Rosa rowan, fawk shem athalia
prime cave
Whats should i do? Switch? Anyone ideas?
brave oriole
@prime cavelooks easy, try Rosa Lucius, shem rowan fawk. put dura's call Lucius, grace shem
tepid smelt
any help? now im fighting with 5 of same faction, but idk what i should use
with maulers
brave oriole
@tepid smeltits better to drop here a stage screen and the one with your heroes
prime cave
Murdered bro
brave oriole
mm have you tried the position I've said?
ashen mantle
@prime cave listed to our lineup god " @brave oriole"
brave oriole
@tepid smeltmmm, maulers are not very strong, maybe try Lucius brutus, lyca safiya king
ashen mantle
Shem
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkess @prime cave
prime cave
Thanks
tepid smelt
@brave oriole and not wukong? He is carrying me hard
brave oriole
well, king I meant him
prime cave
Well murdered xD
tepid smelt
Oh okay 🤣
brave oriole
@prime cavewell, try again a few times still
prime cave
K ill try
brave oriole
it will. never work from first
ashen mantle
Almost never does :)
brave oriole
meanwhile you can see what's wrong and adjust your team, the more you die the better you will be
prime cave
This game is so tricky
ashen mantle
Ull learn the more u lose :) @prime cave
prime cave
I had 1 stage, tried 50+ times with the same formation and after 55+ i won lol
brave oriole
if you play a fight 100 times, they will be all diff
ashen mantle
@prime cave did a stage in 500 tries :) its annoying when 1 enemy always survives
tepid smelt
@brave oriole im trying it and i feel is a bit worse, keep experimenting🤣
vernal sage
ascend both Lucius and Rosaline to Mythic, or keep Lucius L+ and Rosaline to Ascended? Running Lucius(L+)/Rowan(M)/Rosaline(L+)/Talene(E)/Ferael(M)
muted warren
Shemira
Brutus
Lyca
Talene
Tasi
Best i can offer
sterile turtle
thanks I'll try
minor agate
Should I reset saveas and make Belinda 160? Been stuck here for a few days
pale kettle
Nemora, till you have enough copies of her to A, then go for Seirus afterwards. For further questions that doesn't involve formation building, please ask on #classic-questions.
@fluid obsidian
toxic flame
Can someone explain how this lineup worked but mine (which is significantly better) cannot touch it? (Yes I have run it many many times)
fluid obsidian
@pale kettle thanks. But lol I’ve been directed here before for those sort of questions from that channel
pale kettle
Your question doesn't involve lineups, I don't see why that won't fit there. @fluid obsidian
I'm guessing the enemies built up Brutus' energy fast enough to go beyblade against them while he's still under his immunity period. @toxic flame
frosty axle
Bruh, why when i send image it says "explicit content"? Im just wanna get help for my line up zzz
rugged ice
Any suggestions
toxic flame
@si I am not even sure how they ran that lineup because when I try to do it I don't meet the minimum power requirement
frosty axle
Help
glossy pagoda
@frosty axle If ur fine with using a merc, u could thoran it. Otherwise, how long does lucius survive with ur current swtup?
If he has trouble,
Nemora
Brutus
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
May be worth a shot
ripe beacon
@toxic flame there is a strat where you only use brutus and 4 heros lvl1 just for the faction bonus, the enemy kills all the lvl 1 in seconds and then all of them group for killing brutus, bruts then spin and kills them all
toxic flame
@ripe beacon it wont let me only use brutus because there is a minimum power I need to hit
rugged ice
tidal spear
haughty creek
Who should I be using for wrizz/soren? I've just been using saveas, brutus, nemora tasi and lyca
graceful hearth
NOOOOOOOO! Do not fodder ascended tier heroes! Even if you don’t use her much, you will want her later on. I don’t use her much for my PvE lineups, but she’s a great help with Wrizz. You’ll want her.
@summer marsh
summer marsh
Ok thanks :)
stable jay
I am very new to the game and was wondering if I am doing things well for what I have for my lineup? Currently saving up to buy the wu kong shards to ascend him. Is there a better lineup that I am not using, or is this the best I can with what I have?
frosty axle
@glossy pagoda it can be done by my own form. Cz tasi is banish my estrilda not my shemira
Thanks for ur advice
still oar
Max your carry first @urban epoch. You can dominate the field with an overleveled carry.
urban epoch
Max shemira? @still oar
still oar
I your case yes
urban epoch
Thanks!
stable jay
Any advise on my lineup? I posted a screenshit just a bit up.
still oar
Let's see. Wukong isn't exactly the best investment in lab for new player @stable jay. Shem is the meta carry from lab shop still. You will need 14 of him just to get him to ascended while primary faction heroes need 8. Check the pinned guide in here and #classic-questions
idle oriole
@tidal spear merc a good khasos and put him in the front line to kill 2 naras with his first axes
foggy crane
Y'all im STUCK
heady siren
@foggy crane Have you tried the meta yet? :
Nemora (Silvina bait)
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira / Tasi
Tasi /Athalia
Give Tasi Dura's call so she can cast her ult often.
If it doesn't help, swap Shemira for Athalia and put her in Tasi's position as shown above ^^
Athalia was my key to success within chapter 25 🙂
foggy crane
@heady siren Got it with a weird combo involving lucius.
How far should i be able to realistically achieve with my current set up?
heady siren
Well, you are quite levelled enough and your setup seems powerful. You could pass some stages but you'll face really scary walls without charm, banish and instant sleep ability (That is, if Tasi dies.)
idle oriole
copper bough
winter matrix
Lineups depends on the enemy team, so u might wanna post that too.
Also you can raise crystal cap to 120 by resseting Wukong and Antandra and lvling Estrilda and Arden.
Then put Wukong and Antandra on crystal.
After that you can do
Belinda
Brutus
Rowan
Hogan
Estrilda
@copper bough
brave oriole
@idle oriole I would try personally, Rosa shem, Brutus rowan arden, tho, having shem and Brutus 240 would be better for you
tiny birch
Any suggestions? This is my best attempt
brave oriole
@tiny birch why you investing in Belinda. if have shem. already? you better invest your lb fodders into. Lucius. and rowan rosa then
tiny birch
@brave oriole because I’m 1 off Belinda ascended
brave oriole
@tiny birchas about your stage, you need to use nemora on middle to charm. ferael
@tiny birch and you will never use her, cuz of shemira, and then you will suffer 2 months cuz you cannot ascend Lucius and rowan
tiny birch
That will be fine in my opinion, I’m going for the first 5 ascended for the crystal more than focusing on ascending all my lb
I can for sure ascend Belinda but the rest are questionable
brave oriole
and from 5,you will use 2 in your lineup
tiny birch
Yet the level cap for my entire box will be moved, I also use Belinda in my tower
brave oriole
yeah well, you can use her anyway. I'm just saying it's bad to invest in 2 carry heroes. you should focus for a strong team from start, a tank a carry, a healer and cc
tiny birch
I have most of that, I’ve been focusing on lb but I’m branching out as I get access to more heroes, also what would be your team for that stage, it’s not working by just changing Rowan to Nemora, I’m a bit lost with this one
brave oriole
tbh, shem should kill em all, just put Rosa front of her
tiny birch
Shem isn’t killing them all
brave oriole
but if nemora isn't charming ferael on start, restart till she will do it
tiny birch
Even with 2 ults up, I had Nem charm and everything but Shem isn’t killing well
brave oriole
maybe your gear is bad? try this Rosa shem, Lucius rowan fawk
tiny birch
Nope, Lucius doesn’t even get to alt
brave oriole
put dura's call on him
tiny birch
Not even close, this is my Shem
brave oriole
we'll try diff, shem Rosa, fawk rowan Lucius
tiny birch
Still getting rolled
brave oriole
how looks your team now?
tiny birch
brave oriole
try now nemora instead of rowan
tiny birch
No better bc Fawkes banishes farael so the charm never acts on him
brave oriole
fawk isn't coffin shem?
tiny birch
Nope, farael
brave oriole
Ohh, okay. try lyca back of Rosa instead of Lucius
tiny birch
Nope, idk why my Shem isn’t carrying well? I see the past people winning at much lower and don’t know how
brave oriole
bcs, you don't have an Lucius
but, it's a hard stage this one so don't be worried
have you tried an Lucius merc?
tiny birch
Finally got it w/ Tasi
Tasi
— Shem
Nem
— Rosa
Lyca
brave oriole
tiny birch
Tasi just has to freeze & sleep and Nem has to charm Grezh
brave oriole
good, enjoy your scrolls 😂
limpid quail
shem works better with wilder support than Lb support from my experience
limpid quail
@calm basalt reset lucius to 180 and make shemira 220, try to charm shemira by putting nemora bottom
quiet barn
Any recomendations?
limpid quail
@quiet barn use a strong warek merc 😄
quiet barn
Lol okay, Will try that :) thanks again fultsch
brave oriole
@calm basalttry fawk to get rid of shemira first, then set up a team, Rosa is a better cheese for silvina, and if you put Lucius for example, with dura's call vs silvina, she won't jump on anyone
calm basalt
Fultsch suggestion worked, Ty tho 😁
brave oriole
@calm basaltsotry Lucius with call, shem with grace down, fawk rowan rosa, easy win
when ever there's issues, use call on Lucius it will cancel his front enemy cc
iron nest
Does anyone have Thoran Level 30 Sig Item or in a guild with one?
At the point where there’s a few stages each chapter where it would be really handy to borrow one
brave oriole
Yeah, reason why I'm. making. my own thoran+30on an alt😂
iron nest
Haha... smart!
brave oriole
and practice 
vale wasp
@spare girder finally beat 24-60 with your comp (Eironn instead of Kaz) thanks man 🙂
copper urchin
hello how pass this?
copper urchin
Dura call i have do at Roro lucius have calice
brave oriole
you have to put it on Lucius, else he will die
limpid quail
@copper urchin try nemora instead of rosa to charm ferael
copper urchin
is passed
dim badger
I cant change my game language
i checked settings but there is no language settings...
still oar
Then you can't unfortunately. Korean version can't change language
dim badger
but why? :S is it not weird?
still oar
I was informed it's about the policies in Korea.
limpid quail
@dim badger this would also be a topic for #classic-questions and not lineup-help 😉
dim badger
I guess you can not do anything for this so its okay
copper urchin
Help for last stage
brave oriole
if you say ty after, sure
copper urchin
pls ty
brave oriole
copper urchin
ty but dont have athalia ascend
brave oriole
np
copper urchin
but dont have athalias
brave oriole
athalia, nara
limpid quail
she is only for the interruption, not for damage
copper urchin
brave oriole
keep trying, eye on Belinda sword Rosa, but is Rosa following Belinda?
and try Lucius rowan, call or chalice On both
copper urchin
no Rosa follow lucius
brave oriole
well, that's bad, check Lucius power, and put some weaker items, just not the boots, he need the mspd. to get Belinda rating higher so Rosa follow her
copper urchin
brave oriole
and Belinda?
copper urchin
zinc stump
Oof... 5☆ factionless... try getting those 2 as faction gear so you can jump her power
brave oriole
so lucius 1123,belinda 1037 so reduce Lucius rating under 1037, put some m gear factionless on him
rotund ice
Drop lucius power below belinda's and you should be good to go
brave oriole
yeah, try on Lucius m gear, without t1
zinc stump
His combat power is still higher and with Bel Blessing skill you need to go lower still...
Avoid more stars for him til you have more on Bel too
brave oriole
true, I can get my Lucius 5 stars but bel 2 only, so I keep him. one star for this
vale wasp
Rosa following the one with highest power is such a pain... I am looking for the day when devs implement a feature letting you choose who Rosa follow
pale kettle
Need help on 26-49. Tried with nara but still couldn’t beat it
copper urchin
but Rosa follow yet Lucius
brave oriole
copper urchin
less power than this can do
brave oriole
@copper urchinjust put on Lucius, mythic gear, without to be t1
copper urchin
@brave oriole
brave oriole
put mythic boots normal, not t1
brave oriole
remove the boots and then see what options you have. when you wear the boots, will show you only the better ones and the ones from your inventory
I'm sure that you have some normal m boots there
copper urchin
vale wasp
you could try something like
nemora (charm vurg so he bomb his teamates)
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi
copper urchin
@brave oriole like this?
dim badger
wow
mighty veldt
@copper urchin just take the artifact off Lucius
Should solve the problem
That’s the very reason I took my Belinda to +20 before Lucius so I could avoid that problem since my Lucius has always had better gear had to leave him at sig 10
copper urchin
@mighty veldt ty with none artefact is passed
mighty veldt
Np glad I could help @copper urchin
copper urchin
modest lintel
@copper urchin not sure what you have for a roster but this is what I used for last stage and worked very well for me.
copper urchin
@modest lintel is good is passed
modest lintel
Just seen, I apologize. But congrats on passing it!
proud grove
Why can people clear this with a much weaker team but i cannot?
jaunty edge
@proud grove he probably re-tried the stage a few hundred times to the point he dodged a chain of attacks and/or he landed a chain of crits. He also uses angelo to bait silvina so she doesn't aim rowan/rosaline
proud grove
Ah i see the purpose of angelo now
pale kettle
Any idea for this one? Stucked for days
limpid quail
@pale kettle use nemora middle back instead of lorsan to charm ferael, if he gets banished, switch out tasi instead
pale kettle
Hmm gona try
limpid quail
you can also switch shemira and brutus
pale kettle
Like this?
limpid quail
@pale kettle yes, try it like this. you need to try a few times though. when ferael is banished by tasi, you need to remove her and put lorsan back in (or arden maybe). next possible lineup
tasi/lorsan/arden
brutus
nemora
shemira
lyca
pale kettle
Thank you so much
limpid quail
the key against ferael is always to charm him with nemora
pale kettle
What do you think of my main lineup let me creen it
Forst row is my main to goo
Feels like lucius ig getting useless
limpid quail
the shemira/brutus + wilder is great
better than the top row imo. lucius is too low level to currently function as your tank. but thats fine, brutus gives you the extra seconds due to his invincibility
pale kettle
Yea not too bad
limpid quail
shemira frontline can ult faster than backline, and when tasi has duras call she sleeps all enemies while shemira ult triggers
pale kettle
Ohoh
small acorn
Shem brut wilder trio will take you to chap24
pale kettle
This one is pain
winter matrix
Try switching Nemora and Lyca positions so Nemora charms Arden
small acorn
@pale kettle brutus does good dmg to ulmus so switch him with shem
pale kettle
Okay okay ty
limpid quail
@pale kettle we have a guide by aesyr here in the pinned messages for team building and good counters to various heroes, you may want to have a look at that
pale kettle
I almost got it haha it works much better
Yea sure where is the that tho
winter matrix
The three dots in top right under Pinned Messages
limpid quail
there is a pin icon on desktop, or 3 dots when you are on mobile
pale kettle
I did it thanks! Okay will check thank you guys
visual bramble
Any suggestion?
heady siren
@visual bramble
Arden
Saveas
Nemora
Skreg
Lyca
Make it so Nemora charms enemy Nemora, so then you can steal her charm to your side, making it a temporarily unfair for them!
Make sure Arden focuses his roots on Isabella and Grezhul.
If Nemora doesn't get interrupted, and charms enemy Nemora you could win.
Vurk's crit might interrupt her though, see if she can cast without interruption when he doesn't crit 🙂
gloomy coral
Any tips 20-42
winter matrix
Charm enemy Ferael and see what that does.
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca
spare girder
@vale wasp glad it worked for you 🙏🙌
quiet falcon
Can you post the lineup on the enemy aswell thanks.
visual bramble
@heady siren thanks it worked on the 1st try!
heady siren
@visual bramble Congrats 😊 best of luck ^^
ashen mantle
@gloomy elk post a pic of the stage :)
prime cave
@gloomy elk dafuck are you doing here?
gloomy elk
ashen mantle
@gloomy elk try, but it atill might not work :)
Skraith
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Nemora "charm on saveas helps"
spare girder
But for fun can u test Cecelia opposite Saveas and tell after u probably fail? Wanna see how effective her dmg reduction wud be
gloomy elk
Thank you I’ll try it now
ashen mantle
@spare girder think she would die xD becouse the dmg reduction isnt instant
spare girder
True 😅😂
ashen mantle
Could stil try :) if cecilia doesnt get destroyed xD
Skreith/belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Cecilia @gloomy elk
gloomy elk
spare girder
Did Nemora charm Saveas?
ashen mantle
She didnt as u can see xD @spare girder
spare girder
Yeah Golus didn't take dmg at all
gloomy elk
This worked perfectly!!
ashen mantle
:) she got destroyed xD
spare girder
Cecilia on Saveas 
ashen mantle
She got 1 hit off xD
spare girder
Probably took his OP first spear to face
ashen mantle
Yeah :) but sshemira got her ult off at least 😇
@gloomy elk try to make a formation so shemira survives to her ult, and doesnt die instatly when she does :)
@gloomy elk also keep working on shemira being overleveled/getting fodder for M+ 😊 and 2x e+ copies for A
gloomy elk
So push Shem levels now yeah?
ashen mantle
Yeah to 180, and than saveas to 160, also get an arden to ur crystal as his used quite often in stages up to c25 :)
The first root cc helps alot for ur other heroes to get to their ults :) @gloomy elk
gloomy elk
Legend thank you guys
ashen mantle
@gloomy elk ah also u have an extra lucius in ur crystal xD u can swap him.
"Try no ascend heroes to L if u dont have an extra e+ copy for them ready" as it will slow down ur progress and ull need fodder for other heroes to M, M+ also.
proud grove
Need some help
ashen mantle
@prime cave try
Tasi
Lucius - Duras call
Nemora ---- charm arden
Shemira - Duras grace
Lyca
ashen mantle
:( @prime cave did u give it a few tries
heady siren
@proud grove Hello! Have you tried;
Lyca (get her charmed)
Shemira
Arden (root Lyca)
Lucius
Nemora (charm emeny Arden so he will buff your Lucius / Shemira, helping her survive)
The RNG behind this formation is really uncommon but it canwork! If you'd like a better lineup please share your hero roster!
prime cave
Yeah xD still trying xD
ashen mantle
@prime cave well u could also try
Rosa
Lucius
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
tranquil lake
ashen mantle
@tranquil lake keep on trying xD unless u want to merc hmmm :)
tranquil lake
Solid advice
delicate trout
guys, anyone had ss of 24-60?
tranquil lake
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting Mercs exist...
ashen mantle
Dont know which one tho :) @tranquil lake not that great with mauler heroes/tower
tranquil lake
That's because, as far as I've seen, Maulers suck
delicate trout
this one, but my friend doesn't have good wilders, so i couldn't help him by suggesting my line up
limpid quail
Only have wilders as well
delicate trout
hey, that was nice, i got an idea, thanks @limpid quail
limpid quail
happy to help...whats the idea though?
delicate trout
@limpid quail my friend has good lyca only, and our guild member had good eironn, and hey, he passed it, thanks dude
limpid quail
👍
limpid quail
@idle oriole arden is useless, the bosses are immune to CC, make sure to protect and buff your own heroes
winter matrix
Use stuff like
Rosaline
Brutus
Rowan
Shemura
Belinda
For maximum damage and ults
idle oriole
@winter matrix @limpid quail ok thx guys will try it out
ashen mantle
@idle oriole try doing other bosses first, since thane and tasi are the hardest there. So u get some L relics
idle oriole
Ohh ok yea
plush gulch
Hey all im on chapter 15 and Gwyneth has started to feel really weak compared to other carries like shemira and belinda. is Gwyneth worth pouring resources into or no?
limpid quail
She is good lategame in a full lb team or behind Arthur, but midgame shemira is your best bet @plush gulch
plush gulch
thanks @limpid quail on that note, is it worth trying to pick up arthur from the labrynth shop? or should i still just focus on getting shemira ascended?
solid night
limpid quail
@plush gulch shemira first, and Arthur only in lategame when you have at least 5 heroes at ascended
midnight breach
any bigbrains can help?
heady siren
@midnight breach
Safiya
Brutus
Khasos
Satrana
Warek
See if Warek can flip Nara with enough attack speed before she tries to attack, or gain a shield due to the cc being inflicted on him
midnight breach
@heady siren worked huge thanks
heady siren
Welcome! 😄
spare girder
@heady siren what was Satrana for?🤔
heady siren
@spare girder Interrupting Saveas's first attack and reducing his healing effect with her passive after-explosion
spare girder
Wow she can do that? Intriguing, always thought she was the new "Skreg" now that Skreg is good
covert osprey
She has damage reduction when she dances
heady siren
Satrana, like Athalia, are guaranteed for a first attack, and like Thoran's sword swing, its guaranteed to interrupt the enemy.
Satrana's after explosion deals damage over time, causing his healing to be useless since he is engulfed
spare girder
I'll go read on her skills later, thanks for the tips guys! 
@heady siren @covert osprey
dusty elk
violet igloo
@prime cave well, you're lacking faction bonus. Try with nemora tasi lyca instead
brave oriole
@prime cave maybe replace Lucius with fawk and nemora with rosita
glossy pagoda
@idle oriole try
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Ezizh
Twins
This stops them from using their ults, Or cancels said ults thx to ezizh. Going manual may help. Keep tasi for last (her blink will kill all but shemira)
idle oriole
@glossy pagoda ty 🙏👌
hot hemlock
Greetings, I got stuck on 6-16 stage, hope you could help me out with team build, and which unit should I max out or keep it even
copper bough
@winter matrix did I up my Arden at legendary ?
winter matrix
Saveas
Wukong
Mirael
Antandra
Khazard
Try that
Also only level your top 5, so reset Ira and Vedan, then lvl your top 5
hot hemlock
gotcha, thx once again
winter matrix
@copper bough sorry, what?
copper bough
i only have belinda legendary, did I up Arden or i keep my food for another
winter matrix
You can make Arden L but no one else.
Don't make L heroes if you can't Make then L+.
Fodder heroes are an exeption as their copies will be gotten quickly
topaz eagle
Mauler 180, can anyone post their lineup? I’ve retried loads and the Hendrik and mehira fatal saves just fuck the game up
inland temple
Any ideas?
maiden cliff
Can anyone help with 24-58?
It won't let me send a pic of the enemy because it flags it as explicit content?! Enemy lineup is:
Raine
Thordan
Shem
Thane
Belinda
quiet barn
Any tips?
pale kettle
I've been stuck in lab, tower, and main game for over a month
been told to come here for tips, anyone able to help?
Team is Belinda, Shemira, Lucius, Nemora, Roseline
novel fulcrum
anyway to screenshot your unit box? if not, list of units you can use and their tier as in legendary+, legendary, mythic, elite+, ect
novel fulcrum
im not really able to help without seeing your unit box :l cant build any line ups for you to try
pale kettle
keep getting crushed
By what team
same in ladder...
What team are you getting crushed by
novel fulcrum
hes stuck at 11-10
pale kettle
Yeah I don’t remember that comp
Tsai, Estrilda, Belinda, Hogan and Morvius are who I'm against
When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool or the campaign stage that you are stuck and try to explain what you exactly need because just saying "help me” is not specific enough to help you. @pale kettle
this is also in the title of the channel
please make it easier for people to help you
I can't get anpicture to work
old phoen, has some issues
tried to give all info I could
can't get screenshot to work
odd python
@inland temple flip your positioning, so swap nemora and arden, and lyca and shemira. you want your nemora across from arden to charm him into rooting his own team, and avoid shemira across from ogi since ogi reduces haste with his throw (slower ult on shemira, and thats your win condition)
pale kettle
Purple Belinda, Orange Roseline, Purple nemora in backline and Purple Shemira and Lucius in frontline against Tsai Belinda and Morvus backlien and Estrilda and Hogan frontline
Guess no info I can give will help eboufh since Incan't get screenshot to work.
Unless Tsai as boss helps, forgot that earlier
odd python
sub out lucius he offers nothing
quiet barn
Can you give me some advise too rifled?
odd python
tbh i saw your setup and it looked fine lol just rng, retry till ferael charms
quiet barn
Even then they all die. Got way closer with full LB setup so it's frustrating haha. Thanks tho :D
pale kettle
And I'm stuck too 😦 But I can't get screenshot to work so I don't get help
odd python
@quiet barn try rowan frontline, you have sig so he can dodge (across from vedan)
so swap him and lucius,
quiet barn
Keep Lucian in tho?
odd python
you can sub him out, i dont really see too many other impactful options atm. shield isnt bad if he can actually get to use it
pale kettle
Rifled, but you can't even give any words of advice for me?
Apparently a typo got reported here. 22-20 not 11-10
quiet barn
I'll try and rng it, thanks Rifled
pale kettle
i already told you, you need to provide a screenshot. otherwise no one will be able to help you @pale kettle
i can't get a screenshot to work
so I'm stuck becauae I can't get a screenshot to work
brave oriole
what phone do you have?
pseudo cedar
can someone please help me?
brave oriole
bscly Rosa shem, Lucius rowan fawk @pseudo cedar
pseudo cedar
@brave oriole my rosa doesnt follow shem, but instead follows lucius
torn spire
So to fight super-athalia and lucius I need a ton of CC. The ones I can think of are... Uh... Tasi with her sleep, Fawkes with a coffin, Nemora with her charm and... What about the hypogeans I have, Mehira and Ezizh?
tawdry ibex
Any ideas?
torn spire
Current formation is this but even with full energy and ulting the formation dies in a matter of seconds.
quiet barn
I Found that using Fawkes was unhelpfull since he blocked my dps. Can't Remember much Else tho Gryphon
brave oriole
@pseudo cedar yeah wanted to say this, put some weaker items in him to get his power under shem power
torn spire
The only Hypogeans I have that, according to their description, have a powerful CC
I guess I should replace Lyca with Ezizh, and what about Mehira?
brave oriole
@torn spirerestart and get better buffs like firebringer icebringer
gritty quail
Athalia is causing too many issues.
torn spire
Oh yeah I'll keep that in mind, help me RNGesus
brave oriole
@gritty quail just put Rosa in middle
even if you put rowan, with safiya Backline, he will tank like a boss
gritty quail
@brave oriole athalia 1 shots her and rest of team rips if I go
Talene Arthur Lucius rosa gwen
quiet barn
For whoever get stuck here too: 21-42
brave oriole
you need safiya there to buff your Backline @gritty quail
pale kettle
Now will someone help me?
brave oriole
@lyric ridgerowan Lucius, athalia Belinda fawk or rosa
but better Rosa she will kill ezizh with bel
pale kettle
Hi all, new player here with a quick question regarding carries. I’m doing research on which of my characters would act as the best carry, but all of the guides are vague when referring to what ascension level they should be at to use them. Any advice as to how to determine this?
#classic-questions @pale kettle
lyric ridge
@brave oriole who to put frontline
brave oriole
Rowan up lucius down, athalia where she is, Belinda middle, Rosa down
lyric ridge
And my rosa is only L
pale kettle
So I get a sceenshot to post and get ignored
brave oriole
should not be a problem with your lvl @lyric ridge
lyric ridge
Okay thanks
pale kettle
thanks
gritty quail
This fucking node I swear lol
brave oriole
@gritty quailwhat stage it is again? it should be easy
gritty quail
23-34 the combo is just destroying me
gritty quail
No idea I tried that comp@and team just dies in 15 seconds even with Shem in full t1
pale kettle
so anyone able to give advice?
torn spire
How do I fight this camp? ;-;
brave oriole
@gritty quailwell, personally I got grace on shem, call on Lucius
nocturne furnace
Any help?
lyric ridge
@brave oriole team dies the first 10 seconds
odd python
@torn spire try rosaline, she amplifies damage and does % dmg
torn spire
Instead of who?
brave oriole
@nocturne furnace you need fawk for Khasos. so try Rosa Lucius, shem rowan fawk first
@lyric ridgehave call on Lucius?
lyric ridge
I have call on rowan
pseudo cedar
@brave oriole i cant lower him, RIP
brave oriole
try on Lucius, eye Belinda Rosa sword
pale kettle
@odd python @brave oriole...gee thanks for nothing
I fight with getting a screenshot, get it posted, and just get ignored
brave oriole
@pseudo cedaryou can, just put a shit gear on him, just not shit boots
@pale kettleon your msg, you have said that you won. or it worked or so on
pale kettle
I said that posting a screenshot finally worked
lyric ridge
@brave oriole sword?
brave oriole
well I had no idea what's the mean
odd python
@torn spire id swap out tasi personally, but i used a completely different set of heroes for the fight
pale kettle
I had been fighting getting that to work for an hour
brave oriole
@lyric ridge sword Rosa @pale kettlehold on
lyric ridge
What sword sorry
pale kettle
And @odd python continues to ignore me
Guess I'm too worthless to work with
tawdry ibex
Artifact that look like a sword?
odd python
yeah dura’s blade
lyric ridge
Aha
brave oriole
@pale kettleso first, Belinda it's not great, lower her and put shem with 240.
pale kettle
even though Belinda does 80% of@my famage?
tawdry ibex
Brutus scary~ any help?
pale kettle
and is 3* vs no star
brave oriole
@pale kettletrust me, shem does lots better so, swap their lvls then we can try to win
pale kettle
Eveb with inequity in specials?
woven coyote
I agree with @brave oriole use Shem as a carry
pale kettle
Everytime I've tried that I get curbstomped
brave oriole
@pale kettleonce shem. it's 240, be sure That Rosa follow her, and try Lucius up Rosa down, Backline fawk up rowan middle shem down Backline
woven coyote
Especially if you can get her high enough that Rosa will follow her. Then put that Estrilda in instead of Belinda.
pale kettle
Fawkes is only 232k
brave oriole
nvm that much his. power
woven coyote
I mean he can yeah just depends on how you work things. I got all the way to ch 24 with Lucy, Shem front, Belinda, thane, Rosa back. Then I had to start switching things up lol
pale kettle
Belinda is 620k and Estilda is only 337k
woven coyote
Estrilda will buff your shem though.
pale kettle
Shem is under 400k
brave oriole
same, I've used bel from chap 25,
pale kettle
I've had no luck at all with her
brave oriole
@pale kettleits cuz of their items too man, if. you put better gear on shem, her power will rise
woven coyote
That athalia. 🤤 jealousy is setting in.
pale kettle
shem's gear is all 5 star myth as is Belindas
ashen mantle
Belinda has more power because of union
brave oriole
numbers not matter a lot man, only when it's about who Rosa follows
ashen mantle
Otherwhise shemira is better
brave oriole
even naked Belinda got. more. power 😂
ashen mantle
@brave oriole tha sad part is my L+ belinda would have the same power as my 2☆ shem if i didnt have a +20 on her xD "with no gear on both"
teal glade
Really just cant get mauler 160 to work
brave oriole
@teal glade its hard and you need skreg down to cc both ezizh
mighty veldt
Yeah unions give a huge boost
teal glade
I'll try swapping the satrana for a skreg merc then for end of week
brave oriole
@mighty veldtvery, but the stats diff it's not that big, only the power numbers
odd python
@teal glade merc a 5* khasos with high sig and you’ll clear with some rng
mighty veldt
@brave oriole yeah ik but that’s what matters when you add Rosa into the equation lol
@teal glade you also have khasos in the wrong spot you need him in the 4/middle spot I cleared around 273 crystal still takes a lot of rng and I didn’t even have khasos sig 10 (tidus plays a huge part in my comp though for 160)
brave oriole
yep I know, I'm. playing mostly with Lucius on l union😂
ashen mantle
@teal glade try swaping khasos and sefiya positions and hope he can axe them down
teal glade
@mighty veldt you can use khasos in either spot 4 or 5
mighty veldt
Yeah dude no joke Lucius is too big with unions that plus matching t2 even at +10 he’s almost my strongest
brave oriole
yeah cuz his defense is insane, 10% up his score a lot
mighty veldt
@teal glade you definitely can but low sig khasos definitely say 4 spot is definitely the better option imo at higher sig it doesn’t really matter at that point
brave oriole
but hes just fine with l union
mighty veldt
M+ tidus will probably get the job done it’s important because he takes care of one ezizh while khasos does the other and in the 4 slot khasos also helps deal with the other ezizh damage wise
teal glade
K
Any preferences on duras? Been using eye to get khasos axes off asap
Also After khasos kills vurk shouldn't be holding his ult so he doesn't run over and get gimped by saf?
mighty veldt
Believe I used eye and manual his axes do more than his ult 95% of the time
umbral badger
Having a lot of trouble with Mauler 180. Any suggestions regarding team comp, who should have which artifacts, etc.?
mighty veldt
@pale kettle Xperta already gave you great advice lol swap out Belinda and Shem Shem 240 will finish that chapter for you lol
At 220 crystal probably even finish 23 for you as well
@umbral badger you can try
Safiya Brutus
Khasos
Numisu Tidus
With a lot of retries that should get it
Or the golden rule when in doubt just merc a +30 khasos and let him wreak havoc
umbral badger
@mighty veldt Thanks! I have an hour left so I'll give it my best.
Brutus / Tidus front, Safiya / Khasos / Numisu back.
My Khasos is +20 but Safiya is only M. Numisu is a merc.
mighty veldt
Correct eye on khasos call on safiya drape on Brutus blade on tidus and good luck an hr worth of retries might work +20 is solid mauler tower in general is a lot of rng
odd python
it looks like a stage to retry for khasos rng but yeah put him across from mehira to kill her asap
umbral badger
@mighty veldt @odd python You bet! Gonna dole out the artifacts and just try try again. Seems auto ult is the approach to use for speed. Best gear on that comp now and off I go!
mighty veldt
odd python
glgl
umbral badger
@mighty veldt @odd python 32 tries
odd python
gz!
mighty veldt
Nice bro
umbral badger
Thanks! Is Mauler tower the worst for a lot of people?
mighty veldt
Yes sir mauler tower is hell
odd python
i beat 160 and havent touched it, since, didnt even bother with weekly mercs
umbral badger
I too have to take breaks from stuff like Mauler tower because it can be a real grind.
...and this is why I pushed. One left!
pale kettle
how do I unlock a hero to reset?
That's better suited for #classic-questions.
here is where they told me to reset
so just followimg up on a recommemdation here
That question doesn't involve building formations. If you're following up with lineup assistance, then I won't argue. Until then, it suits better on #classic-questions.
scroll up, their answer to my lineup question was to reset one of my characters and build up a different one
Ah, makes sense. Carry on then.
now, if you still want to nitpick me for using the same room I was given the advixe to do something in, to ask how...fine.
I'll leave the server, delete the game, and give up on it all
Here's how you unlock a hero by the way, soz for the notif bar covering it but I hope you see it
I was just telling you how to use the channels correctly. Given the fact that your previous convo with other people are several scrolls away, I'd assume you're not using it properly, but I'll let you off the hook regardless.
I apologize if I've offended you, just trying to keep the channels used as intended, and to prevent actual help being overlooked.
I'm just about ready to give up is all
Anything I do gets me yelled at, so I'm about done with bothering to try
When I am justified in my actions, know that I am justified, and still get yelled at, it puts me into a highly defensive state
graceful hearth
Ugh. 22-42. Fucking maulers. Anyone able to help?
odd python
@umbral badger if it helps, when gb tower opens this was my setup for gb180, i let tanks get pulled in by eironn rather than cancelling pull and used them to buy time for ferael spirits to kill mehira x2, then for shem to clean up
you’ve got me added so if you need a merc just let me know 👌
the regular alternative is nara cancels eironn pull and you rng through it i guess
umbral badger
@odd python I took a screenshot of that and I definitely will shop your mercs! Gotta get those stones
odd python
ah just checked my gbs are merc’d, i can hold for you on weekly reset if you’re still going then
umbral badger
@odd python I have a decent Ascended Nara and will also try to "YOINK" Eironn with her
odd python
yep, should be possible to clear, this one is just some rng anyway, ferael 30 helps the most imo
spare girder
I'm super stuck... No mercs too haha got any ideas?
haughty creek
Is there a better wrizz team I can use?
odd python
yes quite literally all of those heroes are bad for wrizz lmao
belinda shem are the only 2 in your roster that look good for wrizz that are visible, you may have some supports below that can help
haughty creek
Who works better? This is my whole roster
odd python
honestly your roster kinda sucks for wrizz and not your fault just how the pulls went, id go smth like belinda shem lucius wukong lorsan
you want to pick up a rosaline if possible, twins (elijah and lailah), rowan, all good options
haughty creek
I'll try your suggestion. Thanks. Yeah I have all of those in my wishlist minus twins of course.
odd python
ill explain why your current roster isnt great too, brutus needs low hp to do any damage, and then hes gonna die real fast right after. tasi cc abilities dont affect wrizz and thats her whole gimmick, nemora only provides heal, lyca is alright but the other supports i listed will outperform her in wrizz when you get them, and saveas is the same (outperformed by belinda and shem)
its a regular campaign lineup, not a guild hunt lineup
haughty creek
Yeah. That's just the team I've been using for almost everything.
Does position matter for wrizz?
odd python
at your level not a big deal
gentle thistle
my setup any good for this?
odd python
yeah i guess thats about as good as it gets
swap grez and rosa to minimise the distance rosa needs to walk so she starts attacking faster
grez is gonna run to wrizz anyway
pale kettle
@odd python, any suggestion for mine?
gentle thistle
That the closest I've gotten to the 10 mil damage mark xd
pale kettle
why will no one help me?
gentle thistle
I got no idea otherwise I would help xd
mighty veldt
@pale kettle do you have Rowan at all ?
pale kettle
Yeah, but he is horrible
mighty veldt
If so rowan where Rosa is and then instead of nemora put lyca there and replace Belinda with Rosa should clear the stage fairly easy with that setup
tall vault
pale kettle
would a bad Rowan really help?
mighty veldt
You already have 5 A so if your Rowan is at least E+ even if you don’t have 4 copies I’d take him L
tall vault
Sho should i focus on
pale kettle
he's E I think
mighty veldt
No such thing as a bad Rowan especially since you’re at 220 crystal in chapter 22 should be fine
pale kettle
and I don't think in Crystal
mighty veldt
Still should be fine his table stays even after death
Put him in crystal and enjoy clearing chapter 22
pale kettle
so I'll have to wait a day?
mighty veldt
Is he not in your wishlist or something if so that’s a big oof
pale kettle
...no, my guild never suggested him
mighty veldt
I mean I’ve never waited a day always just use the diamonds I’m impatient after all
F in the chat you would’ve had him at least m with how many lb scrolls you’ve been using definitely put him in there better late than never
haughty creek
So I actually just got Rowan. Who should I replace for wrizz?
pale kettle
lb scrolls?
odd python
lucius or lorsan @haughty creek
haughty creek
Great. Thank you.
mighty veldt
Looks like you used all your faction scrolls for lb was what I was saying
odd python
lorsan boosts ult dmg thru the eye ability but offers no sustain, if you need the sustain then use lucius
pale kettle
crap luck
mighty veldt
Only bad luck you had with lb is no one advised you about how busted Rowan was 3 lb A f2p is really good
pale kettle
I wasn't F2P then
still ivy
Any ideas on a formation?
pale kettle
I spent enough for VIP10
so that won...but something odd...
Rosa didn't help Shemira
And I guess I did have a different rowan on crystal I didn't notice
Now what?
got slaughtered
novel fulcrum
try
tasi
shemira
arden
brutus
lyca
novel fulcrum
as long as arden doesnt get immediately killed, he can cc 3 enemies
pale kettle
novel fulcrum
do you have space in your resonating crystal?
pale kettle
anything for lineup? Please?
crude thicket
Reset belinda and level up shemira instead. I don't think belinda can survive without a good lucius
crude thicket
Oh fk sr
pale kettle
I went with lineup @mighty veldt suggested, worked for 8 stages
crude thicket
Maybe shemira tank estrilda and lucius tank brutus
viscid adder
You should level up Shemira
pale kettle
How?
viscid adder
Reset Belinda
viscid adder
Or reset Nemura
crude thicket
Shemira will get banished so you can't let her tank brutus, he will attack backline
viscid adder
You need Shem at at least 240
mighty veldt
Try Fawkes think he coffins tasi
low sable
Wait a minute what about Nara pulling Saveas?
mighty veldt
She would get smoked
pale kettle
Figured it out. Switched Lucius and Shem and it was a slaughter in my favor :)
Should I be concerned that Rosa doesn't back Shem though?
viscid adder
Wtg
mighty veldt
Just have to get Shem power above your Lucius
low sable
Just take some gear off Lucius so Shemira becomes more powerful
pale kettle
What's safe to remove and keep him from dying?
viscid adder
Work on Shem
low sable
What gear does Lucius have? All mythic?
mighty veldt
Just get a t1 gb set
pale kettle
Don't know what else I can do with Shem.
crude thicket
Lizzie are you talking with e master ss ?
viscid adder
Yes
pale kettle
Both have all Mythic
viscid adder
No, Monkbane
crude thicket
Monkbane shemira is 240 already. You are looking at wrong ss
viscid adder
Oh, lmao
pale kettle
viscid adder
Ok sorry
pale kettle
I can’t burn down that, Ogi. Suggestions?
crude thicket
Try arden and see if he can root tasi before tasi banish shemira
oak lance
24-30, any ideas to beat this?
crude thicket
Arden is there is for root. He will get one shot anyway
pale kettle
Third night, and still no help. I guess I’ll just grind.
low sable
Final labyrinth fight hard mode. Their Shemira is so powerful
Their Shemira two shots anything
And it’s a level 220
Plz help
pale kettle
you could try arden tasi lyca to try and cc them, and get your shem and linda off before she can act? may take retries for rng on arden roots
oak lance
anyone thoughts on 24-30? just a bit above :v
pale kettle
Id try to knock down arden with your athalia, and use energy heroes to try and get shem or linda off before he can root anyone - also, do you know who fawkes imprisons?
oak lance
thanks I used athalia to knock arden and won
ruby blade
Any ideas?
mighty veldt
@ruby blade Arthur instead of Rosaline frontline and Shem instead of talene and Rosa instead of Lucius
safe lodge
i have been stuck here for 3 days pls help me 😭 my friends passed this with four lvl 1 heroes and one lvl 110 shemira but i don't have her 😔
winter matrix
Make some E+ fodder heroes and then lvl them to 120.
Then put the heroes you are using on the crystal.
Also only level your top 5. You can reset Estrilda, Warek, Niru and Mirael and put then on crystal.
visual bramble
Please help
still oar
Try
Lyca. Brutus
Brutus. >>>Nemora
Rowan. Rowan
Nemora. >>>Lyca
Saveas. Saveas
You can also try wukong for brutus. Kaz might be a lil bit troublesome with her dodge for physical carry such as saveas so you might need brutus roar @visual bramble
ruby blade
Messing around with a few formations can’t get it, Fareals cc is too much
heady siren
@ruby blade Hey! Have you tried;
Shemira
Talene
Nemora
Arthur
Eironn
If Nemora charms Ferael in time, and he fears Niru and Shemira, your odds of passing the stage will increase immediately ^^
The only reason for using Eironn is because he can draw out Niru from being charmed and the charm will more likely focus on Ferael.
Try multiple times!; if you'd like an artifact advice please do mention me!
ruby blade
@heady siren I was on a similar track to that, Arthur front and Nemora for the charm aswell as using Eironn for the pull
heady siren
Then perhaps try swapping the positions of Talene and Arthur, so he won't be deleted by Niru and Isabella as they're being pulled? Talene can revive herself multiple times, I'm sure she will be fine ^^
@ruby blade
ruby blade
This is the best progress I had on it
heady siren
@ruby blade okay!
try using Nara instead of Rowan, as he's at a disadvantage and can easily die to overlevelled and overascended graveborn heroes.
You will also increase your faction bonus, providing more health and attack rating
cobalt radish
hey guys, I'm stuck at 8-20 and need some help
I've got 3 slots open on my resonating crystal atm
glossy pagoda
Do you have enough reccources, to do warek 120 already?
Mehira and wukong should be added to the crystal imo
tidal zodiac
Not sure how to beat this :/
oak lance
24-32, any help?
crisp thorn
heady siren
@oak lance
Nemora (charm Seirus if possible)
Rowan
Lyca
Athalia
Shemira (silence Arden)
The focus on Arden should kill him fast enough and then Lyca and Ira wom't be a problem for Athalia with 20+ sig to manage 🙂
@tidal zodiac
Swap your frontlines, your Shemira should be able to tank Golus and Saveas better than Lucius, you could also reset Rosaline and add Rowan because he is higher ascended and will increase Crystal level cap later on!
@crisp thorn
Are you going to yse mercenaries or not?
If yes, use;
Rowan
Brutua
Wukong (use his ultimate everytime Thoran charges his ultimate)
Tasi
Nemora (constantly heal your allies)
quiet barn
Any ideas for this one?
heady siren
Yes! @quiet barn
Swap Fawkes for Nemora, charming Ferael with that formation will be more than enough for you to pass, if Niru, Isabella, and Shemira or Grezhul will be feared.
Its unlikely to beat Graveborns using lightbearers so if it still doesn't work, swap Rosaline for Gorvo while Ferael is being charmed, and Rowan for Lyca so you will be able to clear it faster!
@quiet barn
Lyca
Gorvo
Nemora (charm Ferael)
Shemira
Lucius
quiet barn
I'll try and rng it like that then haha, thanks
silk schooner
What's the best lineup for wrizz or soren?
heady siren
@silk schooner For wrizz, I would say;
Rosaline
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
Do you have the twins? (Elijah & Lailah), they are the most used heroes to put against guild raids bosses because of their constant attribute boosts while they're still alive.
And placing a healer such as Lucius or Nemora keeps them safe permanently.
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And for Soren...;
Lorsan
Athalia
Nemora
Shemira
Solise
Make sure you manually cast Nemora's heal before every charming screech coming from Soren! So you won't end up with one Shemira soloing your other heroes.
silk schooner
I don't have the twins but thank you I'll try it!
quiet barn
@heady siren worked like a charm: 21-53
heady siren
Nice! Congrats 😄 best of luck further on!
pale kettle
Hey guys, any ideas? I just cant get past them. Thanks in advance 🙂
surreal oracle
Suggestions?
glossy pagoda
Looks fine for now, when u get ur 5th e+ you may want to level all e+ units up, so that they can break the level cap of 101 for the others
pale kettle
Need lineup for 26-52 please. Tried searching YouTube but it’s not working
odd python
@pale kettle my lineup
heady siren
@pale kettle Have you tried;
Ferael
Tasi
Rowan
Arthur
Nemora
You would lack faction bonus but maybe both Feraels fears and energy / attack rating reduce would help you to increase the odds of passing!
pale kettle
thanks, Ill give it a try @odd python
Is raine compulsory? I foddered it lol @odd python
surreal oracle
@glossy pagoda I mean what of this guys I should use in my party
pale kettle
yes tried it already @heady siren
odd python
@pale kettle i dont know if this is too helpful for you without good athalia
no raine is not compulsory, but given my roster i needed to use her (first use in 27 chapters lmao)
pale kettle
Hmm ok I will try both now. Thanks!
odd python
@pale kettle that first pic was 27-52 not 26-52, it was for the other guy lol
pale kettle
Oh shit lol my bad
glossy pagoda
@surreal oracle i would go with
Talene
Wukong
Safiya
Seirus
Eironn
Atm
pale kettle
I did it, thanks for your help @odd python
It didnt work with raine but I used Fawkes and I won. Thanks 🙂
odd python
np 👌
raine was only there because i couldnt survive long enough to get belinda ult without her energy gain at my level, i expect you probably wont need to use her like ever lmao
pale kettle
ye lol
surreal oracle
@glossy pagoda thz
pale kettle
Damn couldn’t make it work. My tasi is at 1 star and rowan m+. Couldn’t make tasi tank the first hit from silivia @odd python
odd python
@pale kettle just rng, you can try ferael in place of athalia and set gear up so silv jumps to rowan
pale kettle
@odd python yeah it was jumping on rowan. Rowan could only tank 1 hit and die after that
odd python
oh, doesnt your gear have good dodge? rowan should be doing alright i thought
stuck ether
glossy pagoda
@surreal oracle Yes depending on enemies you would do some repositioning, usually eironn should be next to seirus
pale kettle
@odd python well I prob have to rng it for a good dodge
odd python
yeah
pale kettle
@odd python lol just cleared it. Rowan managed to go full dodge mode
odd python
haha gratz
pale kettle
Any idea
spare girder
@pale kettle
Nemora (eye)
Lucius (chalice)
Lyca (drape)
Shemira (blade)
Tasi (call)
Have some tries with this, it should work.
I'm stuck 🐒
ruby blade
I just can’t seem to
nocturne furnace
Any help?
lean anchor
Help please
nocturne furnace
Do u have the relics u used @spare girder?
spare girder
Kaz - Blade
Ezizh - Chalice
Nemora - Eye
Rowan - Call
Twins - Grace
Should be it.
nocturne furnace
Aight
spare girder
@lean anchor
Mehira
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Shemira
Swap Lucius and Brutus positions if Lucius can't take the beating.
@ruby blade have u tried Fawkes or Tasi? Wanna know who gets banished.
lean anchor
Thankyou
ruby blade
Eh my Lucius dies too fast, and Tasi and Fawkes get shutdown quickly, I did try Arthur Talene, Eironn, Rowan and Shemira
visual bramble
Any suggestion?
austere stag
oberon or nemora first? Still need L+ fodder for Oberon
ruby blade
Tried my luck, no goid
visual bramble
Nvm i switch saveas and brutus, wiped them
lean anchor
Any advice
heady siren
@austere stag Oberon? Do you mean Eironn?
@lean anchor
Fawkes
Rosaline
Mirael
Talene
Lucius
lean anchor
It worked Thankyou
brave oriole
stray pine
Shemira
Brutus
Fawkes
Lucius
Belinda @pale kettle
brave oriole
@pale kettle why would you have 3 lbs mythics, 2 of them not useful at all? you could have Lucius m+already and rock 😭 I would try Brutus Rosa,Lucius rowan shem. but I think that fawkes combo would work fine.
pale kettle
Thats just how i got copyes
brave oriole
even so, if you get some copies... do not ascend yet. have patience
pale kettle
Why so what do you mean
heady siren
I agree with Xperta 🙂
brave oriole
I mean Belinda could stay l+, fawk too
brave oriole
yeah, but you have planned to get shemira...
so keep Belinda and fawk m, like they are now, and work for a good Lucius, rowan rosa
pale kettle
Okay will tray that lucius is kinda bad atm imo always die first
brave oriole
you can put him Backline of Brutus
stray pine
Change lyca for nara
brave oriole
I would replace rowan with fawk, and put shem. back of Rosa, lyca front of Lucius
pale kettle
Rowam elite is just useless for me
gray nest
Lineup
ornate totem
Been stuck for two weeks now, tryed thoran cheese but didn't help!
brave oriole
@ornate totem weird
safe lodge
lol i've been here for 4 days
gray nest
Worth buying?
crude thicket
no
vale wasp
hell no, that's one of the worst diamond usage you could make
gray nest
How does dodge work with relics do they stack?
limpid quail
yes all relics with the same stats do stack
please stick to lineup-help in this channel though
gray nest
Yep I didn't realize this was lineup help I was reading lol
limpid quail
@safe lodge push belinda to 140 and try with
tasi
wukong
arden
belinda
nemora
dark current
I need help on kt 352 
quiet fern
ornate totem
How???
brave oriole
@ornate totem use shemira and make Rosa to follow her
put Lucius vs athalia with dura's call, Rosa front down, shem back of her, fawk where he is and rowan too
if works bad, try Rosa Lucius, shem rowan fawk
stone bluff
help
heady siren
@stone bluff Swap Khasos with Shemira, to provide you with a better faction bonus, make sure that Shemira silences Niru after Tasi teleports away (and aim for that Tasi teleports on her ally, not your heroes)
The formation looks good! Keep it like that and perhaps give Dura's call to Lucius so he will cast his shield earlier if it'll help.
Dura's Eye for Ferael, Dura's Grace for Shemira (bonus health), Dura's Blade for Rosaline, Dura's Call / Drape for Rowan
valid badger
I just started playing like, 2 days ago.
Is this lineup suitable for early game?
heady siren
@valid badger Would be better to swap Ira for Mirael to keep the faction bonus.
Mirael provides a defensive shield, and has more reliable AoE than Ira, she can be more reliable in arena unless interrupt by heroes like Eironn, Nara, and other grab heroes
valid badger
@heady siren I appreciate It!
heady siren
Anytime! 
@valid badger
valid badger
pale kettle
i stuck what i can do? im new
ancient musk
inland kite
pale kettle
hi
mossy ledge
@grim elbow show people
pale kettle
@grim elbow you need to write what you need when you post your heroes/lineup or whatever
grim elbow
Oh, I'm sorry
What I'm looking for is a f2p team comp that can make me have some fun at this game, nothing super serious or overpower, just to chill at
I'm playing for like, 2~3 days, don't know anything more advanced or like team comps and things like that
There's some guides I can read to help me with those things?
mossy ledge
Put ulmus I'm 1 wukong in 2 garden wherever you need to cc people belinda and rose will change because of arden
Wukong is f2p celestial and fun
cosmic rivet
Stuck on 8-20. Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated.
Current library of hero's. I can't ascend anyone really haven't any copies yet. F2P.
gritty grove
grim elbow
@mossy ledge Thank you bro
is there any way for me to implement Shemira in this comp?
west drum
lament birch
Makes me go crazy
west drum
So stuck on this it hurts. Been here for 3 days and feel no closer to getting anywhere. Front line gets demolished in seconds
delicate trout
@lament birch
24-24 i use this
fawkes
thoran
shemi
luci
ferael
but at that point i already capped around 245+, you are so good for reaching that stage sooner
pale kettle
Anyone?
hollow blade
Guys i need help pls
delicate trout
@pale kettle
nemora
shemi
lyca
luci
tasi
if your nemo can charm enemy's nemo first, so their nemo can charm ferael too, that's how to counter ferael main
@hollow blade try tasi lyca nemo for backline
old ore
22-26
delicate trout
@old ore try this
nemo
shemi
lyca
brutus
tasi
just try to swap their position till you can see hope
pale kettle
Failed try one, succeeded try 2
supple spruce
Can someone help, its been a few days so i think i get mythic gear after clearing this
@delicate trout if u have any suggestions
delicate trout
ur hero pool, sir? @supple spruce
winter matrix
Try
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca
So Arden roots enemy Arden
delicate trout
yup. i agree with cwonk
supple spruce
wilder archer destroying him, should duras call go on him
delicate trout
call on luci
robust pulsar
Any recommendation for:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/174045986086191104/687361759711199312/Screenshot_2020-03-11-19-09-29.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/174045986086191104/687361758226284615/Screenshot_2020-03-11-19-09-34.png
A bit more information:
Tasi will imprison Khasos,
Once Khasos is imprisoned Saveas can 2 shot Ankhira, (So those are pretty important in the setup)
No units besides Saveas & occasionally Tasi will get their ult off (i tried with luicius, and he rarely gets it off,but it wont carry the game)
I also tried swapping Lyca/Tasi/Talene, with Arden or Nemora but those do no suffice either
winter matrix
If Lucius survives long enough to ult no need to put Call on him.
So you can put Drape for defence or Chalice for heals.
I'd personallt do
Shemira eye/blade
Rowan call
Lucius drape
Lyca Grace
Arden whatever @supple spruce
supple spruce
lucius cant get ult off @winter matrix @delicate trout
winter matrix
Try switching around Lucius and Shem positions
winter matrix
Who does Tasi banish?
supple spruce
tasi banishes lyca
winter matrix
@robust pulsar try this
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Saveas
Tasi
robust pulsar
@winter matrix I unfortunatelly have no rowan :notlikethis:
winter matrix
Arden or Lyca instead?
robust pulsar
I will try that out
What does belinda do? just buff my saveas?
winter matrix
Buff Saveas and hopefully lives long enough to ult
robust pulsar
defintelly not long enough to ult on that position
Most of my backline die to Morvus fire + 1 more attack (Khasos whirlwind, Mirael fire attacks)
winter matrix
Just try switching the lineup around and experimenting
supple spruce
cwonk any thoughts at that level i was stuck on
brutus lasts longer i dont think i can get the luc ult off
or @delicate trout
delicate trout
ch-17 right, my common line up for that chapter is:
nemo
shemi
lyca
brutus
tasi
or
fawkes
brutus
lyca
shemi
tasi/nemo
i ony swap back to luci when my luci can reach 220, before that luci was pretty useless at that point
sage grove
Why aren't or solise instead of fawkes?
supple spruce
@delicate trout sry wrong name auto suggest
livid needle
@sage grove yeah
delicate trout
@supple spruce arden is playable too, the choice is between arden and tasi
livid needle
Fawkes is good much later or boss stage
sage grove
Ok. I felt underwhelmed by both arden and solise when I used them. Just like I'm not a fan of the horse riding chick but dont have a good alternative rn unless I go back to goat spear man
delicate trout
you are on chapter 4, saveas is the best dude :(
supple spruce
what chapter are u on dennis
livid needle
@sage grove bruh put all your xp in to 5 heroes only
Use ricket cart to get all your xp back each time you want to use a diff hero
supple spruce
@fiery mortar shem dies too fast, i guess this level isnt palyable until shem is 181+
sage grove
Did not know I could do that...wow. yeah still looking for a estrilda replacement though
delicate trout
@supple spruce no if arden could root the 3 enemy that face shemi
slender echo
Is this beatable? Or do I need to do some serious levelling up?
delicate trout
@supple spruce you can always try my guy
@slender echo 550k vs 800k, yes it is beatable
supple spruce
tasi or nem
delicate trout
nem, coz luci wasn't in game
slender echo
@delicate trout with that lineup or just praying for RNG?
Lucius and fawkes seem to get pretty much 1 shotted. Rowan and Rosa fall quickly after that and Shem is then vs 5 and gets butchered
bleak rover
Which one of these 3 should I upgrade? (Gonna use the two fodder units to upgrade them)
delicate trout
@slender echo if luci was 1 shotted, play brutus
arden
brutus
lyca
shemi
nemo
try that
@bleak rover if u have the fodder, lyca
bleak rover
I was thinking that too, thanks
delicate trout
@bleak rover but, actually, if you are not in rush it is better to wait for 1 more nemora, and go with nemo 1st, coz lyca wasn't going much with ascension at that point
livid needle
slender echo
@delicate trout That doesn't work well either. My Arden doesn't seem to cast root, they root me, lyca gets 1 shotted
livid needle
@delicate trout so any suggestions I can get to complete this
delicate trout
@slender echo actually, if ur arden wasn't rooting, put nemo on the opposite, so arden roots his own teammates, but that need a looot of RNG
slender echo
OK, thanks, I'll try that
delicate trout
arden
shemi
beli
luci
fawkes @livid needle
livid needle
Ok thanks
winter matrix
You could also try
Fawkes
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Shemira/Rosaline
delicate trout
man oh man, this new meta's hurt my brain lol
slender echo
RNG hates me too, guess I'll wait a couple of days and try and get a level or 2 on Shemira. What should my gear be like now? I think I may be undergeared
west drum
Any help on this level please?
winter matrix
That E Talene isn't doing as much as other heroes can, so you can do
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline
nocturne furnace
Any help? I think I’m just under powered at this point
winter matrix
Try doing
Tasi
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca/Lucius
real palm
nocturne furnace
It worked @winter matrix thx
crimson kraken
22-60 someone?
low sable
Do you have Kaz that can possibly dodge Athalia?
maiden cliff
Can anyone help with 24-58?
winter matrix
@crimson kraken
spare girder
@pale kettle better you swap Belinda and Hogan's positions as he's more tank than her and drop Angelo for Saveas... Angelo is useless plus he's just lvl 1.
copper bough
spare girder
@maiden cliff I just sent my SC for 24-58... Using your heroes you could probably pull it off with Thane replacing Kaz.
maiden cliff
Thanks @spare girder - I actually managed it with Kaz!
dreamy mirage
