but you can also open blue heroes as elites
#lineup-help
frozen wave
ahh i see what you mean. the shiny purple opens, dont use as fodder even if they suck early to end game, but rares are what i wanna boost for fodder only?
oh gotcha, so could get a rare or elite vedan, but only an elite kelthur basically what ur saying?
I thought ascended was a rank (like above Mythic+) not a rarity, but this is why im asking XD
violet igloo
only use these
yes, you can't open ascended tier heroes as blue
you can only open legendary tier heroes as blue
and they are the fodder heroes
that from now on you must use as fodder, and keep ascended tier heroes on the side, and patiently wait
frozen wave
omg DERP...... for the longest time i didnt know ppl were talking about the portrait title over the tier title.... -_- dohhhh
tyvvvvm lmao now i understand 100%
violet igloo
copper bough
what can i do
graceful pendant
Pleas help losing the will to live!
winter matrix
@copper bough Focus on Belinda lvl 120 and then back her up with some support
Gorvo
Belinda
Solise
Brutus
Arden
still oar
@graceful pendant
hoary axle
help
graceful pendant
@still oar I just can't seem to do anything!
Everything I try has died.... almost instantly
pale kettle
Have one a Idea
winter matrix
@merry ferry merc a Ezizh/Mehira and then do
merry ferry
I got them both but only elite
heady siren
@graceful pendant
Have you tried putting Athalia against Ezizh?
Nemora (charm Safiya)
Athalia
Lyca
Thoran
Ferael (terrorize Khasos, Ankhira, and Lucius)
merry ferry
It worked with elite one ty!
winter matrix
Grats!
heady siren
pale kettle
Can me help one ?
winter matrix
Why are u lvling 6 heroes?
Reset Fawkes and use those levels for Belinda and Thoran.
Rosaline
Lucius
Rowan (if you have one)
Belinda
Fawkes
@pale kettle
pale kettle
I cant upgrade Belinda and Thoran
winter matrix
Not enough xp?
pale kettle
I need a nother Level 160 hero
winter matrix
How come your Belinda is lvl 191 then?
cobalt radish
any ideas on what to do with this lineup? I'm stuck at 6-39 and I'm going to miss out on the Lost Sigil event 😢
pale kettle
I upgrade this 2 at 160
winter matrix
Yes upgrade one of them, then reset Fawkes and Lucius.
Only level 5 heroes
pale kettle
Ok thanks @winter matrix
cobalt radish
any help would be greatly appreciated
frozen wave
FINALLY just beat chapter 15!! just wondering what the deal with star gazing is vs scrolls and if there are any good intro tips or guides so i dont waste resources/gems etc 😄
midnight breach
frozen wave
tyvm!!
indigo jolt
@graceful pendant
Try
Bel
Rowan
Fawkes
Lucius
Rosa (following Bel) with call.
Retry enough and should chain bel ult to win.
glossy pagoda
Any idea for a merc, i could use, to pass this without trying to cheese?(would adjust levels ofc)
zealous walrus
Top 5 people still my best lineup for scenario? Got some new people and got into stage 5
sharp adder
Up saveas
wicked elk
is this lineup ok for a new player?
ashen mantle
@wicked elk can you reset that other lucius in rickety cart?⬇️
winter matrix
Revert the L Lucius and then you have enough copies for A
wicked elk
oh revert the lower lucious?
winter matrix
The Legendary one
ashen mantle
@wicked elk youll need 2E+ of his copies later on for M+ > A ascention
wicked elk
oh i did a dumb thing huh. ok reverted thanks
ashen mantle
@wicked elk otherwhise its a good lineup, also try to avoid making heroes L if you cant get them to L+ instantly/ dont make many heroes L+ since youll need the fodder for later ascentions "L tier heroes/rare heroes" 🙂
winter matrix
I'd do something like
Rosaline
Lucius
Nara
Shemira
Rowan @paper heath
pseudo hill
Is Thoran good?
winter matrix
A good tank, and you can cheese with his Signature Item
pseudo hill
@winter matrix should I upgrade him?
winter matrix
Not now.
You should save fodder for your Shemira and keep buying her from lab, until you have her at A
robust pulsar
This stage should be easily beatable i think,
Could someone help?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/174045986086191104/685143561305718817/Screenshot_2020-03-05-16-11-32.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/174045986086191104/685143868575842356/Screenshot_2020-03-05-16-15-59.png
Some information:
Without Lyca, Arden will always flinch/not get his bind off (Ogi stun or centaur aoe stun flinches him)
Tasi & Nemora can always get their Imprison/charm off.
Any tank on the Top side against Ogi & Saveas instantly dies, with the exception
Brutus survives due to his passive, but doesnt achieve much (His immortality gets proced while saveas is imprisoned & Agi charmed, and dies the second after the CC is over)
Lucius can survive for a few seconds(dies at 1:25 due to saveas 2nd auto which happens before tasi imprison), but defintelly doesnt get any of his skills off (gets flinched)
boreal anvil
tips for 16-38
brave oriole
@paper heath
paper heath
@brave oriole
brave oriole
@paper heath keep trying, bel will nuke em at some point. try call on rowan first, eye on bel, then try call on Lucius
steel patrol
Wow that’s an amazing combo. How would I go about countering it?
brave oriole
@steel patrol easy, make shem 220 first, lvl ing others to 200 first it's a bad idea
robust pulsar
https://discordapp.com/channels/441477431501783060/568025210498842633/685146700846727235
Any idea what i could do on this stage?
ashen mantle
@robust pulsar have u tried swaping nem/arden and brut/saveas and have saveas roted/killed :) u can also swap nem for tasi in that case
robust pulsar
@ashen mantle Yeah i did,
Putting Saveas North(position 1 also kills him quite quickly
Ogi will get his stun too fast off and saveas kills my saveas in like 1:22 without a tasi to banish him
also genius me realized why/how tasi gets her stun off all the time:
Giving dura's call to any backline hero makes them use their skill in time before flinch
scenic bough
What do i pick
sweet crane
@brave oriole yeah fawkes coffins belinda
winter matrix
@scenic bough Lyca or hold on to the chest
brave oriole
@sweet crane yep, but, she will dodge sometimes
scenic bough
i though mby scrolls or shemira, so keep until i need a copy?
winter matrix
Never get a hero that can be bought
brave oriole
@scenic boughyep, keep if not any emergency I'm doing the same
limpid pumice
Suggestions?
umbral whale
They are freaking invincible.omg
limpid pumice
I usually run shem, Rosa, Lucius, Fawkes, and Belinda
pseudo hill
I don’t think I’ll be able to beat this right?
brave oriole
@pseudo hilldeppends, I would get a Rosa mercenary and use her. getting on this last fight with full energy on heroes would be easy an easy fight, soo get any Rosa you can find in your mercenary list
pseudo hill
@brave oriole how bout this one?
limpid pumice
Suggestions
brave oriole
@pseudo hillyou have very bad heroes 😂 I mean, 2l+ lb and no Lucius Rosa rowan l+. I would try, I dunno, maybe Hogan shem, Backline nara up, athalia rowan down
pseudo hill
@brave oriole you didn’t have to be a bell end
scenic bough
who should i keep pushing?
brave oriole
@limpid pumicenot Belinda for sure, keep her l+, and work on Lucius to be the first lb mythic, then rowan and Rosa. and stop making legendary heroes, without to be able to get em l+, fooders get em to l+ and wait for a good ascension option, ascended heroes, keep them elite+ for future ascension. but now work for shem, Lucius, rowan, Rosa. lvl shem at 180 for now
smoky valley
Im new to the game, any advices or help? 🤔😁
smoky valley
Alright, ty friend
glossy pagoda
Xperta what did ur alt use on 24-52?
low sable
How does my team look for chapter 12?
violet igloo
@low sable looking good. Can't you put Shemira 170 and other heroes 140 ?
brave oriole
@low sablenot too bad, but do not ascend Belinda, shem Lucius, and get more copies of rowan rosa
low sable
I do not have enough fodder to get Shem to M yet
glossy pagoda
Rowan down there, interesting
violet igloo
I would focus more on wilders if I were you, wilders require less ressources than wilders and are OP.
keep all your GB fodder for Shemira
brave oriole
@glossy pagodayep, for Lucius sustain
violet igloo
Belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Hogan/Tasi/Lyca
or
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus/Lucius
Tasi
Brutus might hold longer than Lucius, since the goal is to have Shemira ult and clean everyone.
low sable
I’ve been using Rosa and Rowan and Lucius can survive a long time
brave oriole
yep they does, I personally like the lb, you only need to ascend Lucius and Rosa rowan fawk are just fine elite + for lots of chapters
but I wouldn't ascend Belinda before of chap 24 or so
it's much better to have a lucius rowan rosa mythic with sigs
low sable
I’ll get enough copies of Belinda to ascend her later (only need 2 more)
brave oriole
yeah, but not before of chap 24 or so, you will. never use her till then
low sable
Lucius only needs two copies as well before he can be ascended
brave oriole
you can go for Lucius m+ even without copies now, with shem, he will get you in chap 21 easy
low sable
I’m keeping my L+ Hogan for the levels. Once I reach 160, I’ll feed him to Lucius
Or should I feed him to make Belinda M?
brave oriole
nono, don't ascend Belinda till chap 24,shes bad compared to shem. ascend Lucius and shem first
ashen mantle
it also depends on the copies he has/ will have
brave oriole
well, even without, shem can go to 200,and get copies meanwhile, Lucius the same, can go to 200 and need 2 copies only
ashen mantle
alot of ppl get stuck on m+ becouse of that reason 😄
low sable
I think the M+ to A transition takes the longest because you need two E+
brave oriole
yeah, but getting shemira it's not a problem, and 2 Lucius, if you focus your faction scrolls on lb, you will get him till then
glossy pagoda
Ye i have m+ brutus for 4month now and always just waiting for the 8th
brave oriole
@glossy pagodabut you have never used the faction scrolls for maulers😊
low sable
Should I also change wish list?
glossy pagoda
I actually did during halloween for a bit
brave oriole
the mauler one, need safiya
ashen mantle
change numisu for sefiya
low sable
Warek or Numisu? Lol
ashen mantle
they both have their uses 😄 but since numisu is in challanger shop you should swap him out
glossy pagoda
I would rather see him being shop hero a plus, waiting for mauler copies can take a long time
He was my first mauler A for that reason
low sable
Aren’t Maulers like the weakest faction? They used to be one of the strongest
glossy pagoda
Its hard to say if they are even that weak nowadays. Tidus and skriath help with some of their Troubles, so do some recent buffs
brave oriole
oh man, skriath, he's hella op
ashen mantle
would change both numisu and warek XD sefiya and skreith
glossy pagoda
Atleast in midgame they are definetly still strong
brave oriole
I would add skriath too, he's insane
ashen mantle
cant use him 😦 not enough copies of him
brave oriole
I got him m on an alt, he is soo good
ashen mantle
or would say 0 copies XD
brave oriole
so , you have a dream 😂
glossy pagoda
I would rather kick brutus than numisu tho, e+ brutus and A brutus sometimes no difference (ok not damagewise)
shadow meteor
I somehow got enough copies of gwyneth to ascend her before belinda, worth it?
brave oriole
@shadow meteor do you have a lucius yet? a rowan rosa?
ashen mantle
@brave oriole who would you say is the worst hero in the game atm ? 😄 "not counting rigby" 😄
brave oriole
@ashen mantle oh well, that's easy, raineeeee😂
shadow meteor
erm, I have lucius at a, then rosa/rowan at e+
pseudo hill
Any ideas?
brave oriole
@shadow meteor work for rowan rosa, if you are using shem, you can ascend later others lb
ashen mantle
@brave oriole hmm well she has more uses than some others even in late chapers
low sable
Use Nara on Mirael. Arden and Nemora for CC
brave oriole
@ashen mantleI'm having raine how you do have skriath 😂
glossy pagoda
Here ascension wise brutus should be 2nd best, but somehow it doesnt seem to be the case
low sable
Numisu putting in work
brave oriole
tbh, safiya is very good, with a Backline like safiya numitsu skriath, you can go far. Brutus can tank even elite + and skreg is the other good frontline
pseudo hill
Hmm, just can’t seem to beat it
gray nest
I’m in Chapter 8 with a mostly LB lineup.(Mainly because they are my best units) They seem to be able to clear through the enemies without the most trouble, but I’d like to have a stronger team against Chapter 8(Graveborns)
My current lineup.
-Wukong
—Lucius
-Rowan
—Shemira
-Rosaline
brave oriole
@pseudo hill I would replace arden maybe with athalia and maybe use rowan instead of nemora
robust pulsar
btw @ashen mantle (sorry for ping) i cleared the stage succesfully with ONLY A LOT of bruteforcing and switching up teams
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/174045986086191104/685175053713014790/Screenshot_2020-03-05-18-18-18.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/174045986086191104/685175054505476143/Screenshot_2020-03-05-18-18-13.png
Basically ever since i found out that Arden can get his bind with Dura's call artefact off: i went for 3 controll backline, and Lucius on the bottom,
If i was lucky with the binds, My lucius can get his stun & Ult off barely before dying and that was the gamebreaker for the match (besides afterwards brute forcing saveas being perma charmed/banished by tasi)
low sable
@gray nest you need to reset your E heroes and level up E+ to break level 100
ashen mantle
@robust pulsar gj 🙂
gray nest
@low sable I know that, but currently, I don't have the exp to get the 5 E heroes to 100, until then I plan on leveling up my best heroes even if they are E.
ashen mantle
@robust pulsar alot of stages are possible with a different lineup even if they are alot higher levels
brave oriole
yeah, arden it was my main dps on wilder tower for a long time lol
robust pulsar
yeah, i managed to beat stages 2.3x higher than me a few times, but that one stage made me uncommonly stuck.
Usually its always a Silvina/Spider woman/Axe throwers/Saveas which are tough to handle, this time i basically had to controll their whole line up untill my saveas gets his ult
brave oriole
yeah, but, Rosa rowan are making a huge diff on any stage
you might say, elite only, but trust me, they are insane lol
athalia also, even elite, she. makes huges changes sometimes
you can cc with her Ira Isa arden ferael numitsu this hypogean mage that aoe badly at the start and so on.
gray nest
Hm?
pseudo hill
@brave oriole I beat it
brave oriole
fading cipher
Help with 26-2 please
brave oriole
@fading ciphermaybe try a Backline with safiya? on who ever jumps silvina to be on Backline.
feral grotto
I'm at 11-20~ and hardstuck there. Should I try to level more evenly or 160 Saveas?
brave oriole
@feral grotto I would go for shemira with Rosa combo already.so. lvl shem to 160 and see how it's going
feral grotto
I'm using Saveas Brutus Luc Belinda and Ros
Oh, aight
So I kill Saveas and level up Shem and Ros?
brave oriole
nah, Belinda is bad to use. I would play shem with rosa back or front by situation, then dunno, nemora middle Brutus front line and back of Brutus Lucius
@feral grottoyeah lvl shem to 160
pseudo hill
Any ideas?
final hare
How do I beat this stage?
violet igloo
@final hare do you have a good Safiya?
final hare
Mythic
violet igloo
Otherwise try
Nemora
Seirus
Rowan
Shemira/Khasos
Tasi
Keep trying until your Nemora charms Arden. It's gonna take a lot of tries
final hare
All the other people do thoran cheese
final hare
I think I just need better gear for my thoran
brave oriole
he don't need gear I think, just to imobiliz them for a while
final hare
Mine has just base mythic gear
pale kettle
Im stuck cant win if my life depended on it.
signal lintel
Hey guys, what teams would you recommend for ice shemira and Kane?
pseudo hill
Any ideas on how to beat this?
boreal anvil
need some help on 16-40
pseudo flax
plush patrol
Any suggestions? Can also try to get a merc to help me through, been stuck for awhile
gentle spoke
sos 24-54
brave oriole
@gentle spoke mm, try, shem Rosa,arden rowan Lucius, or maybe no Rosa and lyca with shem front
I've won like this in one of my alts
gritty quail
calm basalt
any help
mighty rampart
@signal lintel for ice shemira you NEED an ezizh to do well, even if he's just elite. So if you have the tokens Id buy him or get a merc. So if the ezizh is really weak: shemira+rosaline in front; ezizh, then rowan, then belinda. if you have a copy of the twins, even at elite, id swap them for the belinda
signal lintel
Thanks @mighty rampart, will try hiring an Ezizh
graceful hearth
22-32. I feel like this should be easier than it’s turning out to be. What am I doing wrong, or is it just rng? I also have Lorsan and Baden
woven lichen
@graceful hearth is Nemora able to charm Ferael and tasi banishes shemira? Might be able to use Rowan instead of Brutus too
graceful hearth
Let me check... I think Rowan diee super fast, though, and I’m working on getting his si leveled up
Haha, it just got it
gentle spoke
@brave oriole wow tnx a lot man. I won with your exact comp in picture on 3rd try
graceful hearth
@woven lichen Lmao, as soon as you said that it worked as planned
woven lichen
@graceful hearth nice work!
brave oriole
@gentle spoke
devout roost
Honestly right now, the best advice I can give is level up your Shemira. She will be a great help @proud arch
proud arch
I could level up my Shemira to 140 but everyone else will go down to 101
devout roost
I would continue to build your heroes up to 120, and simply keep farming exp to level Shemira
raw pivot
Hi guys, do you have any suggestions ? I get completely recked. I'd like to leave this cursed chapter 😅
fading bramble
Question. Any guidance from here? I am really close to 3 lb and 3 wilders. Should i focus on any celestials or hypogeans or fereal? Or should i focus on maulers? Dont want to get stuck but im going to hit a huge dust wall soon so figured to slow down and finish some more heros. Also have ton of stones left. Priority for +30?
woven lichen
@pseudo hill does Nemora charm Isabelle and Arden root the enemies? If not, you may need lyca so they can crowd control faster.
@proud arch you may want to try Rosa instead of tasi and maybe Brutus instead of Wu kong
pseudo hill
@woven lichen the root doesn’t last for very long
woven lichen
@raw pivot does Rosa instead of nara help? Does shemira ult at all?
proud arch
What formation
gentle spoke
Need help again 24-60
woven lichen
@proud arch
Shemira
-Brutus
Rowan
-Rosa
Talene
@pseudo hill root doesn’t need to last long but should stall three enemies... can use tasi instead too for banish and sleep... mainly some delaying until shemira ults
raw pivot
@woven lichen If Nara isn't there, Ira just make Shemira look like a thin piece of paper
proud arch
Rosa takes a long time getting to Shemira
pseudo hill
@woven lichen I beat it!
woven lichen
@raw pivot same thing if shemira is on top?
@pseudo hill congrats! 👍
@proud arch usually not an issue as long as she can help shemira ult again... otherwise can try
Rosa
-shemira
Rowan
-Talene
Brutus
raw pivot
@woven lichen then it's Kaz that's 2 shotting her :/
woven lichen
@raw pivot do you have lyca? Can try wilder trio... banishes biggest threat with tasi, charm remaining threat with Nemora and faster speed with lyca... or root with Arden
raw pivot
@woven lichen I believe I already tried that and they pretty much all get destroy rather quickly
proud arch
Still can’t beat it 
raw pivot
Yep I confirm, no matter what position, they all get recked. Guess I'll wait for this weekend and use a mercenary. Thanks for the help anyway !
woven lichen
@raw pivot good luck! Can also try some other heroes like Talene or twins to see if they change things... might be hard due to low ascension but if they can the twin link or etc may help
@proud arch as a note, saveas and Mirael as main carry when under L160 are really powerful and can be much better than shemira.... since saveas can self heal and Mirael aoe hits everyone while also shielding an ally beforehand
pseudo hill
@woven lichen any ideas on this one?
stuck chasm
Even possible? Insta kills shemira rosaline Belinda
brave oriole
@stuck chasmyeah but, you have to get there with full energy, so keep a few low fights from the beginning for the end to charge your energy
@stuck chasm right now all you can do is... put dura's call on Lucius, shem on his back and Rosa middle, you can put Brutus front upside too. Lucius with call would cancel his eironn enemy pull, so shem Rosa have a chance to double cast
stuck chasm
Any relics I should aim for specifically
brave oriole
firebringer icebringer, but first try what I've said to try
try this formation, and put dura's call on Lucius, eye Rosa sword shem @stuck chasm
stuck chasm
Still insta kill
pseudo hill
I just don’t think I am able to do this one...
brave oriole
yeah, you need more energy from the beginning. aim for energy relics, crit dmg, enemy attack/def reduction and so on. just keep one figtt or two from the beginning for the last fight, kill the enemies there wihh out wasting your energy, only. do. manual ultimate with shemira once
@pseudo hill you are, try Brutus shem, lyca rowan athalia
ruby blade
@pseudo hill That’s the one I’m on
I’ve tried it with Lyca and even switched Shem for Belinda but still
brave oriole
@ruby blade mm you need to play like something in Lucius place, shem, Lucius 3 rowan 4 Rosa 5. try this Phoenix front of lucius
if. anything try talene Rosa, Lucius rowan shem
pseudo hill
@brave oriole the Estrilda and Kaz destroy me
ruby blade
Same lol, my Lies just drops like a fly, Rowan never gets to alt
pseudo hill
Oooh, I just nearly beat it, the Grez and kaz was last with low hp
ruby blade
Gz
pseudo hill
Nice man, I still haven’t beaten it
ruby blade
@pseudo hill You’ll get it
pseudo hill
@ruby blade
ruby blade
@pseudo hill Woo grats
pseudo hill
Tyty
brave oriole
😂
pseudo hill
@ruby blade this next one is something 😂
stuck chasm
Tys Xperta was able to finish with your help
brave oriole
@stuck chasm it was one hr left till end 😊
ruby blade
@pseudo hill I’m getting Verked on
final hare
Tips for this one?
final hare
How in the world does that comp beat that stage
brave oriole
well, if nemora is charming fera vurk, they kill their team slowly😂
calm basalt
help plz
proper lintel
@calm basalt oh yeah that stage sucked, i think I had to use Nara or Fawkes to isolate one of them
I've been stuck on 20-26 for over a week, I've included 2 lineups my guildmates used to beat the stage that don't seem to work after 100+ retries. Am I just stuck waiting for 1 more Brutus or Rowan for my 5th mythic letting me level up more? I haven't gotten one in months.
brave oriole
looks easy @proper lintel. put Lucius vs silvina with dura's call, shem down, fawk up, rowan middle, Rosa down. I would use dura's grace on shem, eye fawk sword Rosa, not sure what artifact you unlocked yet, but try a few times.
calm basalt
xperta any suggestions for what i posted?
proper lintel
interesting relic choices! i'll try it out! thanks!
brave oriole
@calm basaltm reset Brutus to 160 and lvl Lucius how. much you can
calm basalt
what comp would u think for that staage?
brave oriole
well, if you reset Brutus and use Lucius front, then shem with grace, Lucius with call, then Backline Rosa rowan fawk first try
proper lintel
Oooh! I'm getting some ults off! Maybe I can get lucky, Thank you!
brave oriole
@proper lintelyeah, you will win soon, make sure that you have good shoes on Rosa rowan, rowan don't need strong gear, Rosa does
proper lintel
got it, best mage gear on Shem, then Rosa, then Rowan
calm basalt
lucius to 200 or belinda/brutus 161?
brave oriole
Lucius 200
calm basalt
sweet thank you
ruby blade
I’m currently stuck on here, can make Nemora or Solise Mythic but dont think that’s help much
proper lintel
@ruby blade who's doing more damage to you team? Vurk or Saevus?
ruby blade
Vurk
proper lintel
do you have a nara or athelia to cc vurk?
proper lintel
whenever Vurk gives me troubles, I nara him close to damage dealers to finish him off quickly if Fawkes/Tasi doesn't CC him
otherwise he just keeps shooting from the back un interuppted
ruby blade
The Sav, kills my Lucius pretty quickly too
ruby blade
Yeah tried that from earlier and had the Talene in front of him
brave oriole
maybe talene wasn't good. try shem Rosa, arden rowan Lucius
ruby blade
Nah Idk man thanks for the advice though
brave oriole
@ruby bladethen just use Brutus
ruby blade
My Brutus is weak as
brave oriole
nvm,, you need his invincibility
put him in front of Lucius down, shem front up, Rosa and rowan middle
if works bad, just put arden instead of rosa
ruby blade
Omg finally, thank you
haughty tide
Help on alt pls
woven lichen
@haughty tide usually you want the dps or carries to have highest level first... so saveas Mirael... or maybe Cecilia in your case
haughty tide
This is a alt I started for Cecilia so
proper lintel
I'm fine with trying for another hour, the best tries are when it comes down to my Shem vs enemy Shem at 1/2 health and Vedan. I've gotten there a dozen or so times, but Vedan's ult just eats her up. Is there any mercenaries that would help? @brave oriole
calm basalt
How come my 160 brutus survives hella longer than my 180 lucius
brave wagon
tired badge
can anyone pls help to suggest on this clear this stage.
spare girder
@brave wagon who does Fawkes coffin?
@tired badge not sure u can clear it with those heroes tbvh
tired badge
@tired badge not sure u can clear it with those heroes tbvh
@spare girder but this stage only can use mauler and that what i got. i cannot even damage them at all
low sable
How does this lineup look for arena?
ebon loom
low sable
Put Arden in crystal.
pearl gyro
Who should I focus on leveling here?
pale kettle
ruby blade
Got close but can’t quite pass it
pale kettle
This stage literally screws me over every time
glossy pagoda
And ideas, besides leveling my As to 240? What would be my best choice for a merc? I failed with +20 rosa on monday. Lucius cant ult twice, in that position.
Could gwyn beat saveas and safiya here?
winter matrix
She probably could because of her fire arrows and faction advantage, so u can merc one and try
spare girder
@tired badge just get levels Mauler tower isn't the best haha
wise kestrel
glossy pagoda
@tired badge try a khasos merc (atleast sig+10) if that one would be over level 180
wise kestrel
I feel like this is doable but I'm not sure how, my saf can't stay alive long enough to fire reliably
glossy pagoda
A skreg merc would likely work
Maybe tidus in posistion 2, if angelo doesnt destroy him
spare girder
Chicken too to give her time to ult by reducing enemies haste 
glossy pagoda
Or tidus position 1 but maybe even rowan hurts to much
wise kestrel
e+ tidus useful at all?
glossy pagoda
@@wise kestrel E+ tidus more useful to me, than m+ brutus sometimes. An example below
oak lance
24-15, help please?
winter lance
winter matrix
Also, a pic of the stage
winter matrix
You could try
Morvus
Eironn
Rowan
Brutus
Solise/Nara
final star
Any tips?
cinder crag
oak lance
24-15?
proper crest
limpid quail
@oak lance try
nemora
shemira
lyca/rowan
lucius
tasi/fawkes
mortal flax
Not even a boss level but can't seem to do anything at all
wintry ether
Any help with this stage? If I can pass it it's a 10 pull so much love to helpers!
limpid quail
@mortal flax try
fawkes
lucius
rowan
shemira
nemora
@wintry ether try
tasi
brutus
nemora (charm on vurk)
shemira
lyca/rowan
wintry ether
Is nem charm just random? Cuz she just keeps charming golus
@limpid quail any other suggestions? Sorry I hope it's not too much to ask
pseudo hill
Any ideas on how I can beat this please?
limpid quail
@wintry ether it hits 1 of the 3 in front of her, just keep retrying until it she charms the correct hero and see how that run goes
wintry ether
Switch arden a d rowan an shem and brutus replace lyca with nara and pyt her across from Isabella? @pseudo hill
limpid quail
@pseudo hill or try
arden
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi
south bronze
Shem, Brutus, Arden, Tasi and Athalia
wintry ether
RIP even when I charm burk its just not enough. @limpid quail
pseudo hill
@wintry ether any more ideas?
pale kettle
Need a team for Soren
winter matrix
Do you have a Warek? @pale kettle
inland temple
Some advice please i realy want to finish this chapter 🙂
wintry ether
Lucius
Brutus
Rowan
Shem
Arden
Or
Lucius
Brutus
Arden
Rowan
Shem
inland temple
Tried cant work :/
wintry ether
Have you tried
Arden
Rowan
Shem
Brutus
Lucius
wintry ether
any ideas folks?
viscid pasture
With your collection it's Safiya rng mostly. I would show you my positioning but the game no longer keeps your replays for whatever reason
light harbor
@wintry ether
Rowan
Shem
Fawkes
Brutus
Rosaline
Repeat until rosaline can stay alive until she ult
glossy pagoda
Any chance for this, without merc?
winter matrix
Try mercing a +20 Khasos and putting him where Safiya is and Safiya where Satrana is.
So it looks liks
Khasos
Brutus
Vurk
Warek
Safiya @pale kettle
wintry ether
@light harbor silvana 1 shots rosa
spare girder
@oak lance
Lyca
Lucius
Shemira
Rowan
Nemora
light harbor
@wintry ether everytime? Because once in a few battles she will survive in my case
ashen mantle
@light harbor dont think she will survive since she is e+, maby if she is close to shem
@wintry ether try
Shemira
Rosa
Rowan
Brutus
Fawkess/lyca
Rosa should survive 90% of the time, but u need to get rid of silvina than
spare girder
@glossy pagoda Tbh I don't think so if your Skreg or Numisu was higher then "maybe." you can also try the chicken for his sandstorm and maybe Safiya can ult before they do.
light harbor
@ashen mantle My rosaline only E and level 161 tho, its under his level and ascension
pseudo hill
Any ideas?
winter matrix
You could try
Tasi
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca/Rosaline(if you have her)
pseudo hill
@winter matrix I don’t have rosa
winter matrix
You could try Lorsan in Lycas spot so he links Shemira and she takes dmg?
pseudo hill
@winter matrix I don’t think I can do it tbh
@winter matrix It seems that Shemira just isn’t doing enough dmg
spare girder
How does her gear look?
I didn't need to take my Shem to 200 until chap 20 so that's surprising 
pseudo hill
@spare girder
winter matrix
Put Call on Rowan and Eye on Shem
spare girder
That's bad and horrendous no wonder u struggling
pseudo hill
Lol
spare girder
Your gear situation is very bad
pseudo hill
I know, I have no guild points either to buy some
spare girder
But you unlocked Mythic gear in store at chap 12 and u pushed to 14 so what did u buy with the points?
You should have kitted Shem (your temporary carry with Mythic gear by now tbh)
pseudo hill
I pushed from 11 to 14 from yesterday
pseudo hill
Farm what?
spare girder
Farm mythic gear
visual bramble
What should be my carry?
open dome
winter matrix
Try
Fawkes
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Rosaline/Lyca @open dome
Make a Saveas L+ asap and make him your carry @visual bramble
pseudo hill
Should I wait until I can take rowan or Belinda straight to L+ or should I make 1 L now?
winter matrix
Don't make a hero L if you can't make them L+, so Wait.
You could make L Belinda and buy her from challenger store
pseudo hill
@winter matrix is it 2 L to make a L+?
winter matrix
One E+ copy of the L hero
pseudo hill
I have enough to buy her from challenger store
Would she help me progress? @winter matrix
winter matrix
Can you send an ss of all your heroes
pseudo hill
winter matrix
You have a Shemira at M which will be your carry, so I would save the fodder for a Rowan or a Lucius.
You also don't need another L+ for lvl cap, so the best option is just to wait
pseudo hill
Okay, I was just looking at all my options to progress, I am very stuck @winter matrix
winter matrix
Try getting a good merc and then progressing
tall forge
What am I doing wrong here? Can’t win this
tardy jay
Hello
Whats heros should i evolve? I think Safiya for Maulers but what about the graveborns?
So what do you think is the best option?
winter matrix
Right now dont ascend anything
Also, only level your top 5, so go to the Rickety Cart and reset Wukong, Estrilda and Grezhul.
Then put those levels towards 120 crystal. @tardy jay
robust storm
What do I do? I need a good second tank.
winter matrix
You don't need another tank, you can do
Twins
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi
Also, don't make unecessary L heroes
tardy jay
Ok thanks cwonk
olive lynx
Hello, stuck at 7-32 and can’t advance in peaks or kings tower 93 either. Think I’ve just made a mess of my champion priorities, advice welcome!
winter matrix
Focus on 100 crystal and then get Belinda to 140.
Belinda
Hogan
Rowan
Brutus
Athalia/Orthros @olive lynx
olive lynx
thank you 🙂
brave oriole
pale kettle
Never actually asked this. What’s the meta wrizz/soren teams? Also here’s my lineup
brave oriole
@pale kettle you have to test, personally I've tried on wrizz estrilda bel, twins rowan rosa right like on dark. nemora, and worked good. on soren, I'm. not sure never worked too much on a team 😭
winter matrix
Wrizz
Twins
Belinda
Rowan
Lorsan
Rosaline
Soren
Belinda
Warek
Rowan
Lucius
Rosaline
Is what I would use
pale kettle
Thanks
brave oriole
@tall forgemm I would try to put Lucius with dura's call vs silvina, then build the rest of team. you need fawk to. coffin ferael, shemira need grace cuz will 1v1 niru at the end, need a rowan in middle , and maybe a Rosa there or a nemora tasi
steel patrol
Any tips for Mauler tower 60?
ashen mantle
Hmm was mauler 60 changed xD i remember being 4 luc 1 thane xD
brave oriole
safiya maybe with numitsu and vurk Backline. Brutus and Khasos front just not sure what slots
idle oriole
@ashen mantle yes it was nerfed lol
brave oriole
I wouldn't say nerfed lol, estrilda is stronger than Lucius 😂
idle oriole
Fair enough but the 4 shields were hella annoying
ashen mantle
Would also work with sefiya, khasos, numisu backline, brutus, satrana/warek front
brave oriole
yeah, it was, but when they buffed safiya it was an easy win
steel patrol
That’s my outcome with the suggested lineup from @brave oriole
ashen mantle
Dont down khasos axe throw when they all get hit xD
brave oriole
@steel patrolI've said safiya not satrana
steel patrol
Oh my bad dude lol
brave oriole
you have to put vurk on the right position to poison Thane, dunno what position
ashen mantle
I remember doing the old 60 with only brutus mid backline :)
steel patrol
@brave oriole
brave oriole
still not, haven't said atandra too
ashen mantle
@steel patrol ur still not using sefiya
steel patrol
Oh yeah the mage I get confused with the mauler females
soft swallow
How can i do this
ashen mantle
@steel patrol that
soft swallow
How can i do this
ashen mantle
.... u just posted 1min ago, dont spam the channel
winter matrix
It probably glitched
ashen mantle
Maby
winter matrix
Reset Belinda to 100 and then get Shemira to 140.
Tasi
Lucius
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora/Arden @soft swallow
steel patrol
@brave oriole results — might need to change artifacts
ashen mantle
Think shem will die with that lineup xD @winter matrix
brave oriole
yeah call on safiya sure, eye on Khasos, and so on
winter matrix
@ashen mantle doesn't hurt to try
ashen mantle
Yep :)
brave oriole
arden will insta die, I would rather use nara to pull silvina
steel patrol
@brave oriole those double bubbles are so f’d man lol
ashen mantle
@steel patrol also try this lineup if that doesnt work :)
brave oriole
@vestal hemlockoh yeah, very wrong team😭 😭 😭 forget about Belinda, do not invest on her till chap 23 24,focus on shem, Lucius rowan rosa.. now, try shem Brutus, Rosa rowan fawk
steel patrol
I got lucky RNG and beat it with prior line up
brave oriole
oh no, it's not luck, we pro here
steel patrol
Thanks heaps dude and you others
ashen mantle
@brave oriole
pale kettle
Im stuck on this stage
brave oriole
@pale kettleshemira will dodge fawk coffin sometimes, so you have to restart if she's not dodging the coffin. now, the team can be like, let me. find a setup of. mines
pale kettle
Xperta is a god in Line-up help
ashen mantle
Wrong stage xD
brave oriole
oh it's 46
pale kettle
44 was easy
ashen mantle
brave oriole
pale kettle
I only have a mythic belinda
brave oriole
try shem instead
pale kettle
I could possibly get my nara and merc a athalia to take out both vurk and fawkes since they’re the main issue
brave oriole
shem can dodge fawk coffin 1 from 3
ashen mantle
Brutus is there just to stall :)
brave oriole
yeah, he's needed sometimes 😭
ashen mantle
😱 ikr
brave oriole
I just hate this fucker arden sometimes 😭 😭
shemira is soo good to use, the main issue with her on chap 25,is that everyone get higher rating than her, so it's soo hard to make a setup for shem. Rosa, you need to move a lot of gear, blow union's and stuff for😭 😭
pseudo hill
Any ideas on how I can beat this?
brave oriole
@pseudo hillyou need a fawk badly, do you have him on your wishlist?
ashen mantle
@pseudo hill try
brave oriole
Vedan will go insta on bat form with shem on him
ashen mantle
He shoudnt rly since he will prob die before that
brave oriole
shem will get silence
ashen mantle
He can still try it :) doesnt hurt :)
brave oriole
oh yeah😂
pseudo hill
Doesnt seem to be working : /
ashen mantle
Ur still better at lineups xD i usually just try alot of different lineups untill something comes close and than spam retry xD @brave oriole
brave oriole
2 e+ raine but no fawk Rosa wtf
pseudo hill
yup
brave oriole
@pseudo hillwell, I would try Brutus shem, athalia rowan arden
ashen mantle
@brave oriole just like that one xD not sure how it worked 
pseudo hill
Brutus infront of vedan?
brave oriole
well, you are not that low lvl for this
yep @pseudo hill, and athalia vs shemira arden down
ashen mantle
Yeah ik im overleved xD should be in the 80s
pseudo hill
My Brutus is super squishy
brave oriole
nvm
ashen mantle
But trying out lineups is the best way to learn what works :)
pseudo hill
I am trying 😄
ashen mantle
Alot of times brutus is there just to stall the enemy team with his "last grasp"
pseudo hill
yeah
brave oriole
all you have to do on this game, to get time enough for doing your ultimate skills, this its how you need to adjust your team
ashen mantle
@pseudo hill try this than :) might not work tho :), use call on tasi and eye on shem
shell thorn
any tips?
ashen mantle
Love using wilder trio if possible 😊
@shell thorn swap bel and rosa and try again :)
brave oriole
@shell thorntips? make silvina jump on rosa
shell thorn
Went better, I'll have to try some rngs now, thanks! :)
brave oriole
you can also try to put silvina in Lucius back, moving Rosa there, cuz I do have a feeling that fawk. dies by kaz, dura's call on Lucius at all😊
pseudo hill
@ashen mantle Im getting so close to winning with the wilder trio
the Niru is always last and I cant kill him
brave oriole
@pseudo hill do you have grace on shem?
pseudo hill
I have eye
pseudo hill
@brave oriole @ashen mantle YES!!!!
brave oriole
pseudo hill
The shield did the trick, ty @brave oriole
brave oriole
you welcome @pseudo hill
robust storm
Stuck on this
ashen mantle
@pseudo hill gj 
brave oriole
@robust stormthis is a very dps stage😭, try, mmm, do you have any hypogean hero?
robust storm
I have Wu Kong and Twins that’s it
brave oriole
I dunno then, try this, thoran Belinda, Lucius rowan numitsu
robust storm
Don’t have Thoran or Numitsu
brave oriole
I can see them in your hero list😂
brave oriole
this left team
robust storm
Nope got destroyed
brave oriole
do you have a Brutus elite?mauler hero
robust storm
Nope lol
brave oriole
show me all your heroes😂
robust storm
Got u
brave oriole
well, try, lyca Belinda, Lucius rowan nemora
robust storm
show how to line them up
brave oriole
1 2 3 4 5 are the slots and the order I say mostly
so 1 lyca 2 Belinda 3 Lucius 4 rowan 5 nemora
robust storm
I got destroyed
brave oriole
well, Belinda cannot tank that much then, you should have already mythic gear on her at this chapter
robust storm
Nope lmao
brave oriole
bad management, you could had now about 100k guild coins farmed already😂
robust storm
oof
brave oriole
so i dunno, lvl Belinda more for a while and try again, she have to tank at all, maybe you will get soon one more Lucius to get him l+
it's kinda too late to work for shemira now, you are chap 12 already and only. one copy. of her😭
brave oriole
just put in your lb wishlist rosaline too. what ever you will use, it wil be a short fight anyway. Lucius Belinda, twins rowan baden
pseudo hill
Any ideas here?
brave oriole
@pseudo hillI dunno, try Brutus shem arden rowan nara, but dura's call on Brutus, see if you arden can root
@pseudo hilland why don't you have any Lucius yet? he's not on your wishlist?
brave oriole
very weird, not even one. is your wishlist full? on all the factions?
pseudo hill
I have 1
brave oriole
OK, but your wishlist is full?
pseudo hill
yes
brave oriole
if there's one single. empty slot. on any faction, the wishlist won't work. anyway play your faction scrolls for lb from now
pseudo hill
they are all full
brave oriole
of you going for shem build, you need lb team spcly lucius
winter matrix
Its his bad luck then
pseudo hill
Oh
brave oriole
yeah, it's sad 😭
pseudo hill
I just pulled another Rowan, dunno if that will help me atall xD
I think I still need 1 more for L+... damn
brave oriole
yeah rowan is good, the best hero
pseudo hill
Would it be a waste to make him L?
brave oriole
nope
shell thorn
@ashen mantle @brave oriole I passed the stage, thanks
brave oriole
yeah it's fine, you don't need fodder for any other lb,
no, do not invest anything in Belinda yet, maybe later @pseudo hill
pseudo hill
Oh okay
brave oriole
you have shem, no need belinda till chap 24+, you need a tank, Lucius mostly 😭
@shell thorn
zinc stump
@pseudo hill keep buying copies of Bel from challenger shop though. With the 3 free copies and pulls she is one of the fastest to reach copies for A in the game even if you're running shem carry
pseudo hill
@zinc stump So dont buy Athalias?
brave oriole
I would buy eironn if it's to build a dps
zinc stump
@pseudo hill not until you have 5A. Alathia takes 14 copies to reach A and your goal is 5A and 240 crystal as fast as possible.
Bel is 5 buys max to reach A if you get very unlucky with summons
zinc stump
Worry about building strong teams after you have 5A
brave oriole
Belinda, she's way after Lucius rowan rosa at all. I would build eironn, so I can use the lb fodders for them
pseudo hill
I just pulled another Rowan xD
brave oriole
having 4 alts, Belinda a on all, and haven't bought a single copy. if you are using the faction scrolls for. lb, you will get bel copies too
pseudo hill
I just got Rowan to L+
brave oriole
well, get him m not m+ and work for his sig
pseudo hill
Wait... I can make him A
brave oriole
keep him m, for a while and save the fodders for later just incase
no you can't, you need 4 more. copies from. m+ to a
pseudo hill
Should I feed the Morvus or Hogan, I meant M, my bad
pseudo hill
Does it matter who I feed
brave oriole
use. morvus, maybe you will need Hogan for front line still
brave oriole
won't change much, so no
then if you will get rosaline to use for shem, is possible that Rosa to follow him 😂
brave oriole
I think that he can be used Frontline from now
pseudo hill
Really?
brave oriole
yeah
give him some good shoes, and he will be good
only change the place up or down with shem
pseudo hill
So remove Brutus from my team?
brave oriole
well, you can try a wilder Backline, tasi lyca middle and this turtle dude 😂
pseudo hill
No arden?
brave oriole
well, arden when there's many melee, or. another arden. spcly on mauler stages
you, are overleved for now, you should easy pass one more. campaign
you have to get on chap 16 for mythic drops
pseudo hill
Id love to get to chap 16 xD
brave oriole
should not be hard, rowan help a lot, pray for a rosaline now
pseudo hill
well im alrdy stuck again xD
brave oriole
on?
brave oriole
pseudo hill
I beat it
brave oriole
well, pay 300diam to change the faction to lb, and try for rosaline. is she in your wishlist?
pseudo hill
yeah
brave oriole
okay, try your luck 😂
pseudo hill
I got another Belinda
pseudo hill
I think I can make her L+
brave oriole
don't, keep the fodders
pseudo hill
oh, okay
brave oriole
you will never use her till chap 24,i can assure you
brave oriole
you mean the stargazer? you have to beat 15 1
but, i would do a 10x pull first time and chose the twins to play for
brave oriole
should be unlocked then, check on tavern down right corner
pseudo hill
Says I need to complete chapter 15
brave oriole
oh, then yeah
pseudo hill
😦
umbral whale
Any tips pls
brave oriole
but keep in mind, 10x pull first and chose the twins
pseudo hill
I have 15 summons I can do that I got from an event a while ago
brave oriole
well, that's good, do the 10x pull and chose to twins do not forgot
pseudo hill
Okay
umbral whale
@brave oriole are tujhe twins so good even at elite
brave oriole
@umbral whalewith rlly hard to beat this, keep in mind that you need to not play autom, but. manual. ultimate on lab. that way you can only use shem. ultimate to. kill all, then she will get charged back her energy
yes they are for every single guild hunt
umbral whale
@brave oriole they just wipe me and shemira does negligible damage to them
brave oriole
@umbral whaleyeah I bet they does, maybe put arden instead of. monkey?
umbral whale
Ok but do u think I really need to level up to beat it
@brave oriole or should I try some other mercenary
umbral whale
@brave oriole what about Lucius
And if I put Shem up front won't she die in like 2 hits
brave oriole
try this shem up hogan down, Lucius back of shem, nara middle and arden
umbral whale
@brave oriole and saveas
brave oriole
forget about. him, there's no. mages to kill
umbral whale
@brave oriole Hogan is really low he will die
brave oriole
someone have to die 😂
@umbral whaletbh, I. would reset him and push shemira. do you have any rowa Rosa?
weary cobalt
what do you think i need to do to make this stage? 24-38
umbral whale
@brave oriole but all of my teammates are fighting for death and dying instantly
brave oriole
umbral whale
So which 5 do u recommend on my team in general not just in this voyage @brave oriole
brave oriole
@umbral whaleshmira Lucius Rosa fawk and lyca
but i would try to get a rowan at all
umbral whale
@brave oriole also what should I buy in challenger store
Currently on 9-24
brave oriole
man, my opinion is, eironn for late game, you won't use him a lot now, but later you will have him. rdy
but you need one athalia at last for some stages
ashen mantle
@umbral whale save up coins for now 🙂 cap is 500k extra are sent to your mail
brave oriole
and expire after 7 days😊
umbral whale
@ashen mantle @brave oriole thanks
ashen mantle
its a good idea to get at least 1 athilia and ezizh in there tho 🙂
brave oriole
but yeah, saving 500k, I did the same
ashen mantle
did the same almost. but had to buy numisu copy because i was level caped XD
@brave oriole hmm for challanger what would you say is the best heroes to get? for me "eironn>belinda>fawkess>ezizh>athilia" 😛
as of how usefull they are in campain/tower, not counting arena/legends
brave oriole
@ashen mantlefor me athalia, but only for. my. main, for alts it's eironn
zinc stump
@umbral whale part of the issue is you are leveling equally. Push all exp into saveas until he caps
@umbral whale go with Bel. Eironn is good but your goal is 5A first. Bel is 5 buys max to A because of 3 free copies where Eironn is 8 buys if you dont get the summoning rng and no free reward copies
pseudo hill
Any ideas here?
glossy pagoda
Arden should be in the top position, since isa needs to be rooted, and estrilda charge might kill him
umbral whale
@zinc stump how do u get 3 free copies of Belinda i have her at e+ only
zinc stump
@umbral whale E+ copy from 7 day log in and free copy from ch10
pseudo hill
@zinc stump any ideas for where I am stuck?
zinc stump
if you had Mirael I'd suggest switching to her as carry but maybe try Saveas, arden, tasi Lyca, Hogan until you get Mirael L+ or shem M. Once you have Shem M 161+ you put her in place of Saveas or Hogan ... try to get a Nemura copy so you can run the wilder trio once Shemira is M or have a good healer with Saveas @umbral whale
pseudo hill
Wrong guy 😄
zinc stump
Sorry.
pseudo hill
Np man
zinc stump
@pseudo hill looking at yours now... I dont see nem...
pseudo hill
@zinc stump Any ideas on minetho? My stage and hero box is up a lil
umbral whale
@zinc stumpok so I have to work with saveas for now I guess
pseudo hill
@zinc stump I have Nemora at E+
zinc stump
@pseudo hill have you tried Alathia in place of Arden to pin down Izzy as an opening?
@umbral whale yeah dump all exp you get into him and try to push him L+
umbral whale
@zinc stump how do I try to push him l+
zinc stump
@pseudo hill I'd also think Shem slot 2 rowan slot 4...
pseudo hill
?
zinc stump
@umbral whale get another e+ copy of him...
umbral whale
@zinc stumpyeah of course but I thought u would suggest a way to do that faster
zinc stump
@pseudo hill shem can soak Estrilda first strike and heal after. Rowan in slot 4 will widen his pots to cover your half of the screen or if hes slot 1 he would have Alathia pop off faster too but leaves slot 5 uncovered. Your current set has Tasi uncovered
pseudo hill
I beat it with this team
zinc stump
🤘
weary osprey
how do u guys use simera as front line
pseudo hill
Shes pretty tanky and self heals
weary osprey
do i need to be 141 or 161?
pseudo hill
161 I think
zinc stump
@weary osprey 161+ to get self heal skill and over level to the enemy you're fighting
ashen mantle
161 so she gets more self healing @weary osprey
weary osprey
you guys are awesome Ty!
pseudo hill
Im so close to unlocking stargazing D: I just keep getting stuck xD
ashen mantle
Its not worth using it even if u unlock it now :) @pseudo hill untill u get some cards from f tower/events :)
ashen mantle
Oh :) try getting a copy of twins when u unlock it :) if u dont have them yet @pseudo hill
pseudo hill
Yeah, I was told the same thing earlier 😄 seems like they are good
ashen mantle
They are used on every boss "guild hunt or twisted" :)
New PB :) ezizh, belinda, twins, rowan, rosaline
pseudo hill
nice
ashen mantle
Twins are only E 😢
ashen mantle
Not rly, getting sleepy
pseudo hill
np man
zinc stump
@pseudo hill it would be easier if you had the full W trio with a tank in front. Rowan does his best work in slot 4 if you're gonna use him
ashen mantle
Rowan can be used in front alot of times, but yeah he works best in mid back
@pseudo hill hmm maby try, shem, brut front, arden lyca tasi back
pseudo hill
@zinc stump I have the turtle boy
ashen mantle
@pseudo hill wider trio is arden, lyca, nemora/tasi :)
pseudo hill
I have all of them
ashen mantle
Well for tanks hmm grovo can work as well, usualy its lucius/brutus
zinc stump
@pseudo hill
ashen mantle
@zinc stump oh c24 or 21 :) they almosy have the same background
zinc stump
@ashen mantle 21 for T1 stones. Dust walled
pseudo hill
This stage is rly getting to me
ashen mantle
:) ik how it feels xD @zinc stump will be back at the dust wall soon
pseudo hill
I need Dust...
ashen mantle
Enough dust for 5-6levels -.-
zinc stump
@pseudo hill check your gear and artifacts...
pseudo hill
My gear is lacking, ik. but I cant get any more atm
ashen mantle
@zinc stump ur gonna be in 21-25 for a while i guess :)
Ill probably push some chapters next week, hopfuly for some LB copies/fodder :)
gritty quail
pseudo hill
I BEAT IT!
ashen mantle
@pseudo hill gl with -40 :)
ashen mantle
@gritty quail nice heroes 
gritty quail
Thank you @ashen mantle
ashen mantle
@gritty quail hmm give this a try :)
Rosa
Lyca
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda/shemira
Not used to seeing that many A heroes at that stage 🤣
ashen mantle
@pseudo hill hmmm try using nemoras charm for ferael / she needs to be middle backline/ position 4
@pseudo hill something like
Arden
Rowan/tank
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Nemora needs to charm ferael at start
pseudo hill
Rowan dies instantly in that position
ashen mantle
Hmm try any any tank rly "grovo, luc, brutus, hogan"
@pseudo hill u need to find the biggest threats first for the stage, in ur case its ferael fear and niru :)
pseudo hill
@ashen mantle I dont think I am gonna be able to be able to do this
ashen mantle
Keep on trying xD @pseudo hill u got nothing to lose
pseudo hill
Im not even getting close xD
steel patrol
Anyone got some lineup tips for 20-19? Dynobot has spammed the search feature with useless info...
brave oriole
try Lucius with dura's call down, shem up. Rosa back of shem, rowan and fawk
@steel patrol
outer palm
What should be my best lineup for progressing faster?
In 3 days i'll get the elite+ belinda from the event too
ashen mantle
@brave oriole any ideas for Darkx 15-40?
brave oriole
@steel patrolfirst, reset to 180 Khasos nemora and shem 220, then Lucius shem, athalia/nara, rowan fawk or Rosa
steel patrol
Nemora 180 too?
golden crown
Tips for this stage?
brave oriole
@steel patrolwell, to have dust for shem
tardy jay
Anyone got an idea for wich hero i should evolve? Cant upgrade any of my top 5 heroes
steel patrol
I actually beat it X_X @brave oriole you are a pro tactician. Thanks, from this slow person.
brave oriole
@steel patrol
pseudo hill
Anyone have some crazy secret I can use for this monstrosity 😂
brave oriole
@pseudo hill basically, it's hard, but can try Brutus shem, lyca nemora rowan
and restart if ferael it's not charmed by nemora on start
pseudo hill
@brave oriole what artifacts for who?
brave oriole
well, grace shem, call rowan eye nemora
if nemora can easy charm, you can even replace lyca with athalia
pseudo hill
@brave oriole I don’t think I’ll be able to get this done any time soon, I’m not even getting one kill
brave oriole
Eh, with some work can be done, you can win any stage with max lvl 200 heroes
what's your shem gear? 😭
pseudo hill
Terrible
brave oriole
maybe you have to relax a day or two, already passed a chapter and half today😊
pseudo hill
I never relax
pseudo hill
Hmm
brave oriole
go to the game settings, younwill see the select server option, then click on all servers and pick one,, you can play on how many you want, you won't lose any progress
it's like switching your char
ashen mantle
Its already 504 severs 
jovial gate
I couldn’t handle multiple alts, I’m down to just one alt from three. My friend went from five alts to two lol
nocturne furnace
Any help?
jovial gate
Use that lyca if it helps, since the week resets soon. But characters like Rowan and Rosaline are great pairs with shemira and Lucius
brave oriole
looks easy stage
brave oriole
pseudo hill
@brave oriole @ashen mantle I BEAT IT!
jovial gate
Congrats!
ashen mantle
@pseudo hill gz
brave oriole
izi😂
jovial gate
My friend pushed into 16 from 13 or 14 in like two days
pseudo hill
I was on 11 yesterday xD
jovial gate
Yeah that’s crazy good progress... I’m stuck in 12
ashen mantle
Getting shemira to M /180 helps alot
jovial gate
Lucius 141 will get into 13
I only have 4 shemira... and my main has less 😦 I was dumb on my main.
brave oriole
you only need 4 to get m+
jovial gate
My alt has no grave fodder so I can’t go mythic yet... I don’t know if my main should go Belinda carry
brave oriole
nah, just be patient for fodders, do not ascend belinda
jovial gate
Here’s my main
ashen mantle
Bel is good but only in much later chapters
@brave oriole damn need to make a new alt and test from where can thoran chezze work already xD
jovial gate
Say, should I put resources into Lucius’ signature item? I have unlocked it, nothing more
ashen mantle
Would save them for now
pseudo hill
@ashen mantle Are twins super good?
jovial gate
@tardy jay save your heroes... don’t sacrifice ascended tier heroes to upgrade others. And don’t send heroes legendary until you have four copies and can send directly to L+
@tardy jay see .ascensionguide in #545929173471068170
brave oriole
@ashen mantleit works like since your thoran is m, and you are very underlvled
about 30 40 lvls above your thoran
ashen mantle
@brave oriole ah kk so u just need to unlock his SI than it works
brave oriole
yep, his sig lvl 1,and lots of practice
ashen mantle
@pseudo hill they are mostly used on bosses /Guild hunt, Twistead.
brave oriole
you can win maybe diff, only use athalia vs arden, and replace lyca with Rosa
fawk. can work too instead of lyca, and Brutus, you can use ghez I think
remote otter
I've tried that as well I get closer with the setup I have now I think I'm just gonna afk
brave oriole
you not getting closer, you just. die later
cuz of arden root 😊. so try this ghez with call, shem down with grace, athalia rowan fawk, or athalia fawk rosa
remote otter
I don't have fawkes
brave oriole
well that's weird, then try athalia rowan rosa Backline, but use the call on ghez and grace on shem. eye can be on Rosa
other team can be ghez shem, arden lyca athalia
but ghez need call to cancel kaz aoe so arden can root
of he won't cancel, put shem with call vs kaz and ghez down
remote otter
See I made this account to try stuff I didn't on my like rushing athilia
brave oriole
well, for stages like this, arden need lyca, so you lose 2 slots, while athalia gives you one more slot for support or else
remote otter
Yeah. And grez got melted by kaz
brave oriole
all you need its shem to get the full energy, nvm if the others die. so scramble your team to get this happen
fading bramble
Advice? 3 or 4 lb comp doesnt work. All guides have varietion of wilder comp but feels like it not working
fading bramble
yea LB doesnt work.
brave oriole
can you give me a screen with your heroes?
fading bramble
brave oriole
well, rowan will get attacked by silvina. but try, shemira up with grace, lucius down with call, rosa back of shem, rowan middle, and fawk back of lucius
not sure about this arden if you can tank him, but do you have an elite athalia or nara?
supple spruce
Help pls @ me
fading bramble
I do have elite + nara @brave oriole
brave oriole
@fading bramble well, use her to pull arden, so no rowan backline, rosa nara fawk
fading bramble
Will try that or should i fill in nara somewhere. Arden cant tank prob
So this? Not gonna try now since its been 40hours but ill do it tmrw @brave oriole
brave oriole
@supple spruce your arden insta dies there, so be like brutus shem, lucius, rowan, fawk
jovial gate
@supple spruce you butthead why are you at 16-39 already
brave oriole
@fading bramble yeah like this, but put duras call on lucius okay?
fading bramble
Got it
sudden sparrow
@supple spruce
Rosa
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Arden
still ivy
Any ideas for a formation to win?
pseudo hill
Any ideas?
outer palm
what should be my best team for progress?
winter lance
rocky hawk
I don't know if I should ascend Rowan for SI or if I should replace Lyca by Belinda and ascend her instead
Lyca feels a bit weak at my chapter and im not sure if Belinda would do better
brave oriole
what chapter? and no belinda wont help. but you need a fawkes at all
i wouldnt ascend belinda before of lucius rowan rosa at all,
@rocky hawk honestly , if you want my 2cents opinion, get m rowan, lower lucius to 180, and push shem to 220 . will make a hella diff
meager sail
Hi guys, any tips? Arden is my biggest problem
brave oriole
i have passed this yesterday, let me find my setup
maybe you can try this, just with eironn instead of athalia if dont have one
meager sail
Ill try this, I have an E Athalia lol, maybe it’ll work? Otherwise I’ll try Eironn.
pseudo hill
Is Thoran good early/mid game?
zinc stump
@supple spruce faction bonuses can be the changer for the last few on 16 if you dont have M+ carry
@pseudo hill meh... can be ok but not quite as good as he is M or better
pseudo hill
@zinc stump I need 1 more copy for A
What would be a good boss team for me? @zinc stump
zinc stump
@pseudo hill G Wrizz generally Bel, Rosa, Twins, Rowan, Lorsan. If you dont have those built a full LB team for +25% damage since Wrizz is Mauler
pseudo hill
@zinc stump I dont have a Rosa
zinc stump
@fading bramble as you get further there isnt a "best team" since you line up to counter what you're against
zinc stump
@pseudo hill rowan slot 4 works better since you're not covering Lorsan like that
pseudo hill
Who should go in place of Rowan
fading bramble
Im only on tower 71 so just best is needed
pseudo hill
@zinc stump is this good?
zinc stump
@pseudo hill it will go up as you play the game
woven stone
Not quite sure where to go from here, basically can't progress without more copies to L+ some heroes, and not sure how to get more either without progressing and earning diamonds.
tribal flower
Recommendations ?
supple spruce
Anyone got suggestions? I want to clear chap #) @ me pls
fading bramble
Anyone can help on tower 245?
cursive cradle
Wilder tower 100, not even close. 2 Wareks wreck everything. Any suggestions?
fast ginkgo
Im stuck! How should I clear this stage?
brave oriole
@cursive cradleyou can still use a mercenary
@fast ginkgo dura's call on Lucius, replace nemora with arden
cursive cradle
@brave oriole True, ascended Lyca you think would be most effective?
brave oriole
@cursive cradleeiron
supple spruce
@brave oriole any suggestions? almost done with ch16
brave oriole
@supple spruce it's not insta dead your arden there? 😭 I would. replace him with fawk, put. rowan middle, shem Backline and Rosa front, there down
fast ginkgo
@brave oriole Arden dies before casting roots, tried different position and he gets canceled by stun
brave oriole
@fast ginkgo try the setup that ive told ya, yeah arden can't do anything, but if you put shem there up he will
@fast ginkgo but he shouldn't get any stun if Lucius have dura's call vs kaz
supple spruce
@brave oriole yeah lol that was old pic rosa now instadies lol
gritty quail
brave oriole
@supple spruce I haven't said like this, Brutus Rosa, fawk rowan shem
gritty quail
Need me some @brave oriole skills
supple spruce
@brave oriole oh word that worked u big brain, suggestion for this last stage of chap?
brave oriole
@supple sprucedo you have athalia or. nara?
supple spruce
Yeah elite+ nara elite athalia
brave oriole
this is a bit harder, but try first shem Lucius, lyca rowan arden, dura's call on Lucius, grace on shem, eye arden