lineup-help

[tidal bobcat]

Really?

[gentle spade]

idk im very new 😦

iv heared it idk if its true

[brave oriole]

well, they are after a certain lvl. I would. buy shemira always from. the shop, and keep every single gb fodders elite+ to ascend shemira at the right time

[tidal bobcat]

Good to know

[calm basalt]

My arden keeps getting 1 shot about 1 second into the fight, every fight

[gentle spade]

What would my 5 guys be?

[brave oriole]

it's early to say, I mean, in a few hrs you will have a double number of elites. but, go front line Brutus Hogan, Backline monkey Cecilia and bard dude

[gentle spade]

ah bard dude

[torn spire]

How do you even fight them in Burning Woods?

[brave oriole]

use fawk?

[torn spire]

Fawkes?

[brave oriole]

yep

[torn spire]

But I don't have Fawkes...

[brave oriole]

that's bad. but it's nothing wrong if you cannot win. it's RNG after all, you need better buffs, like icebringer firebringer

happens to everyone this

[oak lance]

24-15 help?

[brave oriole]

put Lucius vs arden with dura's call, and will cancel his root

[wintry ether]

Been stuck here a day or two. Any suggestions or should I wait for some levels?

[plush glacier]

Among these, who would be ideal for me to use in pve n pvp all round?

[tidal bobcat]

Looking for wu counters?

[plush glacier]

wu counters? u mean the hero wukong?

[tidal bobcat]

Yep

[grim nova]

What’s my ideal Soren setup?

[plush glacier]

@tidal bobcat sure, actually looking for something for mostly pvp but works too

This is my current lineup. is it ok?

[grim nova]

Here’s the rest

[slim garden]

@wintry ether lyca, Brutus, shem, nemora, tasi, should be easy with your levels

If you still can’t with that, reset Belinda and make shemira 200

[lilac garden]

What should my next moves be? On chapter 7.

[stone bluff]

anyone have a trick for this ?

[plush glacier]

Who should I get from this?

[worthy bane]

@plush glacier shemira until you own 6 copies, as 2 copies are free

[plush glacier]

I’m currently using lightbearers @worthy bane

The lightbearers at 100 is wat I’m using currently

Is it bad?

[worthy bane]

I'd still say shemira, there's no downside as she's the best carry through 161 to 260 or so

[plush glacier]

Ok

@worthy bane how should my lineup be once I get her?

[worthy bane]

I'd use Shemira, Lucius, Rosaline, Mehira, Hogan

[plush glacier]

Ok

[plush glacier]

@worthy bane only 3 lightbearers bonus will do?

[worthy bane]

yep, it works perfectly fine

[plush glacier]

Ok

[gleaming viper]

Hey guys, 1/3/5 or 2/4/6 is better for challenger arena?

[wanton furnace]

I’ve been stuck on this for a little bit now, Any suggestions or should I just wait to get more xp?

[haughty creek]

Stuck on this stage. Any ideas?

[sturdy thicket]

Door Stuck

[winter matrix]

@gleaming viper focus on making 2 strong teams for challengers, so I would say 2,4,6

[woven lichen]

@haughty creek try overleveling saves by 20-40 levels and use lyca or tasi is read of shemira... or Fawkes... go for three faction bonus... more support heroes and saveas as main damage dealer

[haughty creek]

Would it be worth it to reset shemira in order to put that extra exp into saveas or is keeping her in the resonating crystal more important?

Also if going for a 3 faction bonus does that mean I should be replacing lucius?

[heady siren]

@sturdy thicket

Shemira
Lucius
Arden (root Isabella)
Talene
Wukong

[sturdy thicket]

@heady siren arden got killed too fast, somehow Managed with
Shemira
Lucius
Rosa
Talente
Tasi

[heady siren]

Nice! Congrats 🙂

[sturdy thicket]

Thank you anyway :)

[pale kettle]

Any thoughts either way about continuing to level this Shemira to 220 or 240 and leaving the rest of the team at 180? or should i just catch em all up to 200.

[pearl quest]

I think, you can get shemira lvl 220 and lvl up all heroes lvl 200 after

[mighty veldt]

Definitely 220 Shem

[pale kettle]

Ty both. It shall be done.

[vale wasp]

shem to max level, if you can put her to 240, do it

[mighty veldt]

Needs everyone on crystal to 200 first so don’t have to worry about 240 just yet

[forest carbon]

Mauler 80. I feel like I'm getting trolled

[still oar]

Merc good khasos and put him in position 1 or 2. And rng it so he kills or almost kills 2 naras in his flank @forest carbon

[forest carbon]

Ok will have to wait till next week

[vale wasp]

this is a tough one... as Adara said, a strong Khassos merc can do a lot here
on my side I did it with a really strong Brutus after a lot of retries
the key here is that you don't want enemy team to build energy, put lvl 1 instead of saveas, birdman, etc

[proud grove]

Any way

[rugged niche]

need help

ok nvm thoran just slapped ass everyone of em

[idle oriole]

Good soren lineup? Only getting like 30-40mil but feel like I should be getting more 🤔

[heady siren]

@idle oriole

Shemira (Dura's Blade)
Lucius (Dura's Chalice of Vitality)
Rosaline (Dura's Call)
Baden (Dura's Drape)
Fawkes (Dura's Grace)

@proud grove Have you tried;

Arden
Shemira
Nemora (charm Ankhira)
Lucius
Lyca

@rugged niche

I remember passing that stage with this formation;

Thoran
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora

with Tasi having Dura's call so she could put them to sleep before they cast their ultimates, thoran ended up swiping them all.

[gilded jewel]

Ideas? Last level until 17 😦

[pale kettle]

19-38 need help

[fading bramble]

Any advice for low level brutal citadel? Only lvl 62 My worst faction by far. This is what i have. Feels sad with lvl 180 crystal. Could get these guys to around 600k-640k or so with my best gear but feels like im just too weak

[odd python]

@fading bramble mauler was my worst faction too i just merc’d khasos for any stage that brutus couldnt solo carry

[slim garden]

@pale kettle lyca brutus shem nem tasi

Nem with dura’s call

[pale kettle]

@slim garden shem dies quickly

[minor dune]

out of all these characters what would be my best team possible

[worthy island]

This floor kinda dumb

[brave oriole]

@worthy islandtry call un Lucius

[winter matrix]

@minor dune Dont make unnecesary L heroes

Rosaline
Shemira (overlevel her)
Raine
Lucius
Belinda

[minor dune]

ok thx for helping

[slim garden]

@worthy island

Merc a bel

[north trellis]

@winter matrix

I dont mind recycling high level heroes if needed

Like rickety kart recycling

[winter matrix]

I'd do something like

Mirael
Baden
Rowan
Rosaline
Belinda

[north trellis]

Even if the are just elite and not elite+

[winter matrix]

Yes

[north trellis]

And no shemira?

[winter matrix]

You can replace her for Belinda yea, and see how the damage is

[north trellis]

Just curious why you dont suggest nemora (or is rowan just her but better?)

Everyone else hasn't given me an actual lineup but they always say to keep belinda, shemira, and nemora

[winter matrix]

Nemora is not good against Soren as he is immune to CC and she does around 0 damage.

Rowan heals and gives your team energy with ult, so you'll get more ults off

Idk who told you to put Nemora in a Soren Lineup, but I don't agree with it

[north trellis]

Oh wasn't sure if line up was just for soren or lineup in general

[winter matrix]

You could also do

Shemira
Rosaline
Rowan
Belinda
Baden

[ionic anvil]

Hello! Help me to focus who I should buy for the arena shop and labyrinth shop? My Shemira is starting to falter in chapter 24. My usual comp is Lucius + Grezhul, Shemira + Rowan + Rosaline. I think Belinda is okay? How about the labyrinth shop? Arthur?

[final hare]

How do I beat this stage?

[brave oriole]

this stage.. I did it yesterday again with my alt, let me. check

you need some RNG, but it will come. Brutus will get coffin, and Belinda will 3 x kills in first ultimate, then fawk. coffin Brutus again. and bel kill safiya, maybe you have to. keep at the end fawk ultimate for. manual on brutus @final hare

[final hare]

What's the formation

[brave oriole]

you can see it 1 2 are front up and down, 3 4 5 up middle down

so rowan Brutus front, lyca Backline up Belinda and fawk

[final hare]

My fawkes never coffins anyone

[brave oriole]

put on him better items, he's low acc

and some. artifact with acc

[final hare]

Now he coffins lyca

[gray nest]

I’m stuck please help

[brave oriole]

@final harethen you haven't used my setups, he would coffin Brutus

[final hare]

@brave oriole is this not correct?

[modern tapir]

Just got Shem to 161 any suggestions on who to build with her?

[brave oriole]

@final hareyour lyca lvl 1😭

[final hare]

Don't think it really matters lol

[brave oriole]

it does

she don't have the haste

[oak meteor]

Hey guys! These are my heroes that I have got so far, could you help me build a team or two with them? I still don't know what I'm doing hahah

[final hare]

Forgot about that lol

[outer palm]

Someone could suggest me the best heroes for my team?

[pale kettle]

Shemira is underwhelming early game, focus on overleveling other heroes for now like Mirael.

Always level your 5 highest ascension-leveled heroes, so you won't be limited as you earn more resources. Reset your Elite and Rare heroes (Shem, Seirus, Nemora, Wukong, Saveas) and put your resources on your Elite+ heroes instead (Belinda, Tasi, Ankhira, Mirael, Solise).

For lineup, you could give this a try:

Cecilia
   Seirus
Mirael
   Wu Kong
Tasi/Nemora

Formation still highly depends on the enemy team, so try to learn heroes' abilities and use it to your advantage.

I'd also recommend you to read the guides pinned on #classic-questions, should give you a broad overview about the game.
@oak meteor

[gilded jewel]

Any ideas? Trying to close the chapter but so much cc lol

[brave oriole]

@gilded jewel you have to counter arden somehow, lyca arden too, or, athalia nara vs arden. I suggest you call on estrilda or so

[oak meteor]

@pale kettle thank you very much!

[pale kettle]

Too early to say to be honest. At your state, any hero will work, as long as you mind the faction bonus. I recommend doing the following though:

• Only focus on leveling up 5 heroes, and put the rest of the heroes you still wish to use on the resonating crystal. Your resources will be more efficiently distributed that way. Reset everyone else as necessary.
• Start retiring those Common heroes on the rickety cart.
• Ascend those Rare and Rare+ heroes up to Elite, prioritizing the following heroes: Mirael, Saveas, Arden, Silvina

Also, if you have the time, I'd recommend reading the guides pinned at #classic-questions for a grasp of the dos and don'ts as you pass through early and mid game.
@outer palm

[gilded jewel]

@pale kettle any ideas for 16-40?

[pale kettle]

Any hopes of winning this, have some free reson slots

[gilded jewel]

Thats one of the first major stalls in the mauler tower so prolly not

[outer palm]

Thanks a lot @pale kettle 🙂

[pale kettle]

even if i ascend my safiya to mythic and level her up to 180

[brave oriole]

you would need a higher hero lvl and one mercenary @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Just a hunch, but give this a try:

Fawkes
   Rowan
Belinda
   Rosaline
Estrilda

Xperta is right, Arden's probably causing you the most trouble. Experiment with different heroes and see which will negate their annoying CC abilities the most.
@gilded jewel

guess i'll wait it out then

[brave oriole]

yeah, you will need a strong Khasos for this

with safiya buff he can win, but i would ascend right now safiya without any doubt, saveas is low already

[pale kettle]

i only have 2 copies of khasos sadly and only 4 safiya

[winter drum]

Any advices for this stage?

[grim nova]

What’s my best lineup for Soren?

[dark current]

I really need help at 27-4 😭 too hard stage

[woven nimbus]

@grim nova Put Baden in the Crystal. Belinda, Rosaline, Rowan, Lucius, Baden.

[modern tapir]

Any suggestions for building around my shemira?

I’m gonna reset sav btw

[woven nimbus]

@modern tapir Reset your L Belinda. Don’t ever L a hero unless you can L+ it, and you will never need to L+ 2 of the same hero’s. As for your best lineup, probably want to do Shemira, Lucius, Rowan, Rosaline, and Belinda, while also getting Fawkes from the challenger store at some point for his CC.

[modern tapir]

Yeah I made that mistake on Belinda a while back

My main Belinda is L+

[woven nimbus]

You should be able to reset her at the cart and get your resources back.

[modern tapir]

I don’t have any levels on the L one

[woven nimbus]

“Revert Hero”

[modern tapir]

Alright. Got her reverted. Thanks Nara. 🙂

Who should be my other front line with Lucius? Shem?

[grim nova]

@woven nimbus thank you :D

[violet igloo]

@modern tapir as @woven nimbus said you have far too many L heroes. I strongly recommend taking 2min to read the quick guide pinned in #classic-questions. Keep leveling your Shemira. As for your lineup, I would do :

Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus/Lucius
Arden

[modern tapir]

Yeah I made them all L before reading the guide. ☺️I’ll give both line ups a shot.

Thanks everyone.

[zealous walrus]

Looking for help with a lineup. I put everything into Sav but. Still stuck on 4-8

[royal grotto]

I used to be on gold or diamond in dark nemora now I can only hit 48m and its silver one. Any lineup suggestion?

[pale kettle]

Hello! Newbie here. Any thoughts or input from anyone? Not sure if I’m on the right track. 🙂 thanks in advance! (Reading quick guide as I type too...)

[heady siren]

@zealous walrus As for right now you shouldn't worry too much about lineups! you are very early into the game.

I would suggest, however, that you should include both of your Elites that you've attained this far into your formation! Nemora and Lucius. ^^

@royal grotto Instead of Estrilda, have you tried Athalia? she has more area of attack via her ultimate move!

@pale kettle It can be better! for example, if you will level up Isabella, elite (purple) Hogan, and Gorvo (the 3 purples) and swap them with Ulric (green, level 60), Hogan (blue, level 40) and Ogi (blue, level 40), your formation will look much better then! ^~^ hope this helps! ❤️

[royal grotto]

@zealous walrus As for right now you shouldn't worry too much about lineups! you are very early into the game.

I would suggest, however, that you should include both of your Elites that you've attained this far into your formation! Nemora and Lucius. ^^

@royal grotto Instead of Estrilda, have you tried Athalia? she has more area of attack via her ultimate move!

@pale kettle It can be better! for example, if you will level up Isabella, elite (purple) Hogan, and Gorvo (the 3 purples) and swap them with Ulric (green, level 60), Hogan (blue, level 40) and Ogi (blue, level 40), your formation will look much better then! ^~^ hope this helps! ❤️
@heady siren dont have her😭😭

[heady siren]

@royal grotto Please share your hero roster so I can give a better suggestion 🙂

[royal grotto]

What do you guys do with duras items in dark nemora??

[heady siren]

@royal grotto Hmm.. have you tried Fawkes instead of Estrilda?

[royal grotto]

Lets try

[pale kettle]

Thanks Solise! I appreciate your feedback! 🙂

[royal grotto]

@royal grotto Hmm.. have you tried Fawkes instead of Estrilda?
@heady siren nope. Something else is wrong, there is no one in diamond section

[heady siren]

@pale kettle Welcome!

@royal grotto Powerful area of attack heroes like Thane, Athalia, Seirus, and so on are pretty helpful at reaching higher milestones... I'll come back to you in a second 🙂

@royal grotto Okay, try;

Twins
Talene
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline

[brave oriole]

@royal grotto I strongly recommend you to get the twins for guild bosses, even if one elite, will ttly change your score

[zealous walrus]

Thanks @heady siren ! So just keep dumping points into my main two?

Lucius and Saveas *

[heady siren]

@zealous walrus Your main DPS would be Saveas so level him higher than everyone- but make it so your formation looks like this :

Saveas
Lucius
Nemora
Hogan
Ira

for example 🙂 it's always a good idea to include the highest ascension tier you have available early on in the game

[royal grotto]

@royal grotto I strongly recommend you to get the twins for guild bosses, even if one elite, will ttly change your score
@brave oriole yes turns out ppl use elite twins and very strong mercanary estrildas...
@heady siren Ill try this one thanks🙏

[brave oriole]

I would work. to get your own estrilda mythic so you can work. on her sig, most of mercs have shit items and shit sigs

[zealous walrus]

Awesome. Thanks again Solise. I'll grind out 4-8 for a day or two and see if I can beat it

[brave oriole]

@zealous walrusyou can, not the best idea but would help you. to buy the fast reward a few days

[zealous walrus]

I bought the first one 😄

[brave oriole]

on low lvl the diamonds rewards are many

so won't hurt ya a lot. also , an good advice, do not use your gold for buying items or else, strictly buy the dust everyday only. the guild coins, keep them till chap 12,and only buy mythic items for shemira, so you can have her insta full mythic, cuz the drops come after chap 16 only

[zealous walrus]

Ok, and buy Sherima from the shop?

[royal grotto]

She is very good until 23 or so

[winter matrix]

She will cary to ch26

[zealous walrus]

You all say that everyone will carry 🙂 lol. But here I am afrk at 4-8

[winter matrix]

Shemira carries after lvl 161+, and before that Saveas and Mirael will be carries

[prime cave]

Guys any help? I Just cant win for some reason

[winter matrix]

I'd do something like

Arden
Lucius
Rowan
Shemita
Tasi

You can also switch Shemira and Lucius positions, if Lucius doesn't ult

[brave oriole]

@prime caveyou don't need arden there. he is one hit. try shem Lucius, fawk nemora rowan.

[prime cave]

Mmm let me try

[calm basalt]

really getting frustrated with this level

could use help

[brave oriole]

@calm basalt hard stage, but Lucius with call up, shem with grace down, fawk or rowan rosa, lyca arden

[winter matrix]

You can use Arden to stop enemy Arden from rooting.

Lyca
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Arde @calm basalt

[brave oriole]

I think its better Lucius down, but with dura's call on him to cancel KaZz aoe

when ever arden root its canceled put Lucius with call on his front

or Brutus or what ever you use

[calm basalt]

my guys just get 1 shot before they can even do anything

[brave oriole]

what have you tried?

does Lucius use dura's call?

[calm basalt]

its on him not sure if hes using it, im assuminbg

i could level lucius to 161

[brave oriole]

try shem down and Lucius up

[brave oriole]

well, @calm basalt I would rathervl shem to 200 first and keep the others 160

[calm basalt]

ok

[prime cave]

Even tried this comp

[brave oriole]

you need fawk to coffin shemira , nemora. middle to charm ferael, and down can be athalia or nara to kick Isa ass

[calm basalt]

@brave oriole

[brave oriole]

and keep restarting till ferael is charmed @prime cave

@calm basaltwell done Noah

[calm basalt]

ty for the advice

[prime cave]

Lemme check if i got fawk

[wanton furnace]

Currently stuck on this level, any ideas on how to get pass with my current heroes?

[prime cave]

Doesn't work

[violet igloo]

@wanton furnace you are using 2 dps accaries you only need 1

[tawny surge]

Anyone got any tips, charming ferael only does so much

[violet igloo]

You also have ascended too many heroes to Legendary, only do it if you can put that hero to L+.

@wanton furnace I strongly recommend you read the quick guide pinned in #classic-questions

With what you have now, I would put Saveas (or Belinda) lvl 160 and others lvl 120 then do :

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Nemora

Belinda will act as a tank, since Saveas will do more damage I think, he's so much stronger than Belinda

[prime cave]

Any tips on floor 15-40?

Wich artifact is good for shemira?

[wanton furnace]

Thanks @violet igloo I’ll try that lineup and check the pinned messages!

[violet igloo]

👌 it'll take 2 min to read too

[ivory inlet]

Team I could use for this?

[flat gyro]

need to see more of ur heros @ivory inlet

[flat gyro]

Luci Shem front. Belinda Fawkes nemora

Try that out 🙂 and let me know

[ivory inlet]

My lucius too weak keeps dying too fast

[flat gyro]

Can u switch his and shem positions?

What is killing you? The Brutus?

[empty pulsar]

Anyone have 23-32 lineup?

[flat gyro]

Idk what site they get the teamlists for certain levels

[empty pulsar]

I think a few people in here have it... @brave oriole do you? I dont think green is on.

[bright arrow]

Help))

[fading bramble]

Any advice? Merc khasos?

Can get higher - 600-640k with gear but eam is so trash

[flat gyro]

@bright arrow Luci shem. Athalia Fawkes Belinda

@fading bramble is this Mauler tower? If so ur gonna need a Merc for sure. Either khasos or numisu depending on what is killing u

[bright arrow]

@flat gyro i don't sure it will good team

[brave oriole]

@empty pulsar

[flat gyro]

Xperta. Where u find that

My turn to ask. What y'all think?

[brave oriole]

@flat gyro they are ss from my alts

[flat gyro]

Ahhh ok 🙂 thank you!

[brave oriole]

looks easy, try mmm, try shem Rosa, arden rowan Lucius. you have to root twice athalia or so for the win

[flat gyro]

Talking to me xperta? I don't have an Arden that high

[brave oriole]

nvm how hight he is

it's 24 54?

[flat gyro]

It is

[brave oriole]

well, ive used this team, let me show you

[flat gyro]

I'll try that out. Thanks 🙂

[brave oriole]

[sturdy thicket]

Door stuck

[empty pulsar]

Thanks

@sturdy thicket first thing to do is stop taking A tier heroes L. Exceptions for shem/nemora/Belinda. I would try

Arden
Shem
Nemora
Lucius
Rosa

[devout roost]

Anybody have any suggestions for beating this stage?

[sturdy thicket]

@empty pulsar so Safira and Isabelle we're waste?

They CC shemira too heavy

[empty pulsar]

@sturdy thicket technically your safiya is L+, so you didn't waste too much, especially with the lack of mauler heroes. But the L lucius, L isabelle, yes. The e+ you used for isabelle could have been used to work on a L+ for shem

[sturdy thicket]

On the Website they are rated As s class heros

[empty pulsar]

Don't go by what tier they are rated in. You dont want to waste fodder :)

[brave oriole]

by the whales, for endgame

[sturdy thicket]

@empty pulsar shemira is L+ already

[empty pulsar]

@sturdy thicket and shem needs to be fed a L+ to go to M.

[sturdy thicket]

Ohh now i understand

[empty pulsar]

Here is 1 acct, so you can see

But, the L+ on here only went to L+ AFTER I had the fodder to take them directly there. That way I wouldn't get stuck with a bunch of L heroes and no copies to go L+

[sturdy thicket]

You think i should use faction Scrolls on Graveborn in my Case?

[empty pulsar]

Same for L+, don't go M unless you have enough copies to go A.

@sturdy thicket No, it looks like you have been going LB. Keep doing that for now.

[lilac garden]

Any advice for this level, or should I just wait for level ups?

[inland temple]

Hey i realy need an advice everythink dies in a second

[brave oriole]

tried dura's call on Brutus? @inland templeand nemora... I would use rowan middle and lyca down

[simple sierra]

Who should I use

[robust pulsar]

Any advice on changes?
You think re-rolling to saveas is more usefull in this stage?
feels like i should easily be able to beat that

Any non-Tasi/Rosalina mage just insta dies to silvinas.
And tanks barely surive too little to get ult off ( any other tank besides Brutus gets shredded by Saveas within 1 sec.)

I already tried:

Putting more controll (arden, Tasi, nemora each tried/swapped)
Put even more controll (remove brutus and make mirael tank)
Swap tanks up (Ghrezul, died almost instantly too)

[teal hinge]

Can someone help me wit this?

[novel adder]

@simple sierra currently what you should do is

1. reset eironn and reset shemira. You only need 5 leveled heroes at all times.. and you want to level an E+ unit to break past level 101 crystal.. put both of them on the resonating crystal if you want to use them
2. Level and E+ unit to 101+ i recommend maybe Ira. (dont have to use her.. just to push your crystal level)

So after that for team.. im not sure how niru works as a carry.. but since he is currently high leveled keep him there.. i recommend you slowly level belinda to 121 and beyond.. run maybe a lightbearer graveborn mix
so
Belinda
niru
wukong/satrana
grezhul/izold
shemira
but dont be afraid to swap around depending on stage.. i recommend you read the guides pinned in #classic-questions and #lineup-help those are good starting places to learn the basics

[pale kettle]

Current lineup
Rosa
-----eironn
Rowan
-----lucious
Lyca

I need lots of help making a lineup to pass chapter 19 for 8.1k gems please halp. Eironn has +22 sig so hes probably a mustt.

Please halp me 😭

[brave oriole]

@teal hinge sure, Rosa shem, Lucius rowan arden. now the RNG, is when shem dodge fawk coffin, so you have to restart a few times

[mighty veldt]

@pale kettle any reason you’re forcing yourself to stay at 160 crystal ? And you’d probably get through 19 easier with Shem at 200 instead of eironn she just has more self sustain so it’d be easier especially with the lb lineup
Rosa Shem (reset eironn to take her 200 )
Rowan
Lyca Lucius
should do well

[pale kettle]

@mighty veldt was planning to work on tasi instead of lyca or rosa but if u say shem is better option ill start focusing on her. I have her sig at like 15 too

[mighty veldt]

Not saying to focus on her sig she’s just an easier carry and less sig dependent personally I’d leave her at 15 I took her to 20 and wish I’d just left her at +10 honestly

[pale kettle]

@mighty veldt alright ty !

[violet igloo]

Yep, leave her at 15 and out her highest level possible and in frontline

[brave oriole]

you need her sig, for guild bosses

[violet igloo]

It's better to focus on other sigs in reality, some are far more important, like Eironn/Safiya/Ferael which will make you progress faster in PvE and PvP

[mighty veldt]

Exactly also the higher you go in the twisted realm level/ladder the less you use Shem I believe the only one I use Shem on is evil nemora so it doesn’t matter as much @brave oriole

[pale kettle]

@mighty veldt tried it i aint even getting close shem is dying before she can proc now

[violet igloo]

Now in lab / Wrizz / Soren / Guild hunt I never use Shemira, except Nemora boss and+15 is fine for that

[brave oriole]

there's long time until he will rlly be able to successfully use any of the ones that you mentioned. eironn is weak without wilder support, ferael and safiya hard to get. but until then, shem rlly worth to have +20, there's nothing like her, and it's about a few gold to get her on +20. and @mighty veldt if ppls are lacking an ascended talene, shem is the best still, and not everyone do have a talene

[pale kettle]

I need haLp

[brave oriole]

@violet igloobcs you do have ascended talene and twins, that's why, not everyone do have em

[violet igloo]

I don't have ascended twins nor do I use Talene she's too weak. I get by like most people with mercs

If the guy is f2p he can save his SIs if he's whale why not spend the +5 to get small temporary boost

I put mine to +21 by mistake and regret it a lot. I don't even put Shemira in the legend championship now, she's useless once you get to level 260++

[brave oriole]

well, from my point of view, shem have the most helpful si for campaign till chap 25 at last, and rowan

yeah, +1 is not much anyway, a few sigs 🤪

[violet igloo]

+10 is the best investment, unless you're a whale

[brave oriole]

there's many issues, happened on all my accounts, shem will have a low rating then, younwill have issues with rosa following her and so on.

[mighty veldt]

Yeah but even Belinda replaces Shem on ice Shemira so that leaves her with nemora and Kane not worth the sigs if you’re f2p in my opinion dolphin here and definitely wouldn’t spent my sigs elsewhere if I could go back would have my eironn on the way to +30 Instesd of dangling in the gold sigs territory and @brave oriole even at +20 I have the same issue with Shem being too weak

Until she gets a union that’ll be the case unfortunately

[violet igloo]

If she's overleveled, Rosa will follow Shemira. Is your heros are level 280, using Shemira is wrong at that point

[mighty veldt]

^^

[brave oriole]

you have the t2 gear to balance the rating if ever needed

[mighty veldt]

From the 260+ bracket using Shemira is literally forcing it and you’ll likely be in silver at best anyway

[brave oriole]

rlly?

[violet igloo]

Some people have made T2 gear for Shemira, it's big mistake imho

[brave oriole]

I haven't said for shem, I'm using the lb gear t2

[mighty veldt]

@brave oriole yes excluding evil nemora

[brave oriole]

@mighty veldtI don't think so, even in khane I get close to legend with shem

oor how the hell it's his name, this balaur nab

[mighty veldt]

Maybe 270 then

[brave oriole]

300, and I'm gold 2 or 1

[violet igloo]

@brave oriole even so, investing golds sigs to get a few extra bottles every 2 days isn't worth it

[odd python]

gold is not really close to legend tbf

[mighty veldt]

Well nice always exceptions to the rule but still not worth the cost for the minimal gains

[brave oriole]

the gold sigs are free anyway..

[odd python]

shem shouldnt be an upgrade priority, just a nice bonus in twisted realm if you happen to have already done her

[mighty veldt]

Even with them being free resources are scarce

[odd python]

you shouldnt CHOOSE to upgrade her purely for twisted realm

[violet igloo]

Diamonds are free too, even red sigs are free

[empty pulsar]

Anyone have 22-42?

[odd python]

post a pic, older stages weren’t labeled

[brave oriole]

yeah just the 10x price for golds ones, you get that gold in a day easy. and @odd python she's the best carry till chap 24 25 still

[empty pulsar]

I think xperta has it anyway :D

[brave oriole]

@empty pulsarwhat's 22 42?

[odd python]

yeah and then she falls off a cliff so whats the point lol if you have a good setup you can start clearing those chapters without shem investment, saving the gold sig for one thats actually useful

[empty pulsar]

I'll get a screen if this comp doesnt work :D

It's the double knock up mauler stage...

[mighty veldt]

Dude gold is non existent post 240 not sure where you’ll find the gold to justify using it on Shem if you haven’t already gotten her to +20 pre realm

[odd python]

^^^

[brave oriole]

@odd pythonI'm f2p almost chap 26,and tbh, I can buy how many gold sigs I want if so. I don't see them a waste for shem spcly. I couldn't get there without her

what's the point? I'm much faster on chap 26, with months faster investing on her..

[violet igloo]

I'm chap 29 and I'm missing gold, at chap 25 I had 380million gold sitting there doing nothing

[odd python]

i mean i buy sigs every time theyre available and i still dont touch shem with a 40 foot long pole lmao

[violet igloo]

@odd python that's the right choice in the long run

[brave oriole]

yeah @violet igloo, cuz theres diff things there, with shem sig or not, you will still. miss the gold

[mighty veldt]

Yeah but I could use the sig on someone I’d use post 25 instead is the secret

[odd python]

probably a discussion for another channel at this point but yeah advising to upgrade shem sig past 10 kinda sus

[mighty veldt]

Oof valid point forgot we were in lineup help

[tawdry ibex]

I need help. Any ideas?

[twilit latch]

Anything that I should change to help me out?

[odd python]

@empty pulsar my 22-42 but i was pretty overleveled back then, was farming at the time

[empty pulsar]

Interesting, haven't seen that one, most common is wilders or LB shem

[odd python]

easier if you post your heroes

[cold trench]

Any tips? This was the closest lineup I found

[odd python]

use rosa or maybe even tasi in place of lyca

[brave oriole]

@empty pulsar

[empty pulsar]

@odd python cleared it though :) I didn't have heroes to post, was looking for ideas for a guildie who was stuck for a bit there since he has almost 0 wilders somehow haha

@brave oriole thanks! 22-42 for searches

[brave oriole]

@cold trenchfawk insta die there, i would move him up but you need also arden, or to replace rowan with athalia nara

[odd python]

i mean general good combo for skreg is rosa + belinda as the % dmg and increased dmg cut through him, also as you see from both mine and xpertas screenshots we had athalia across from vurk

[brave oriole]

yep, vurk is painfull, I'm. stuck. on a stage with him right now, still. couldn't find a way to counter him there

and here is,

[odd python]

hard with lb only i think, you may just need him to rng to run to the spot where belinda ults

[brave oriole]

yeah I'm. trying to catch him with the others in one shoot

[odd python]

this one looks like just 100% luck stage lol

[brave oriole]

it's just tasi. keep. my. Belinda under control

luck, it's. more like RNG, for the game, vurk one shoot 4 heroes at some. point, it's not rlly cool

since Belinda dmg is RNG, I will keep trying 😂

[last granite]

Is this possible to beat? I feel like I need a tank and I wanna ascend skreg to L but I'm not sure if he's even gonna be helpful at this stage. I'll get a brutus after I finish this chapter so.. Any thoughts?

[brave oriole]

@odd python

[pale kettle]

I should still run:
Shemira
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
In quests right? I'm in chapter 12 atm and im trying to figure out if I should keep the faction bonus or try to put rosaline back in for brutus

[brave oriole]

@last graniteits hard without a tank, you need a strong front line always, and now you have only shem. for. front line. I would try to. make a. lb team Backline, Rosa for boosting shem, rowan, and fawk. not sure about the second front line who should be yet

[last granite]

@brave oriole all those LBs are only e+ they all die in 1 shot if I didn't use arden at all. Arden is a must for support

[brave oriole]

@pale kettlefor shemira, Rosa is a must arden its not good until. 141, I would rather use Brutus shem, estrilda lyca Rosa

[pale kettle]

Rosa would follow my brutus not shemira

[brave oriole]

@last graniteyou have to use. Rosa. somehow. for shem. double shoot

@pale kettle yeah, well, read some guides, I mean you shouldn't make legendary heroes like this. your shem. could be mythic by now

[last granite]

@brave oriole rosa is out of the question. I get she's great but not in this case. What about my other question? Should I ascend skreg to L for frontline or just merc someone? I could merc a tank in about 4 days and I'm trying to push for brutus

[brave oriole]

@pale kettlebut a nice trick it's. to put Rosa front of Brutus, try it

@last granitehave you tried to use Lucius, even elite? you can put something front of him to get sure the shield. and i assure you, Rosa is the key here

[tawdry ibex]

Any ideas? I can only manage to kill 2 of them

[brave oriole]

@tawdry ibexfawk is getting morvus?

[last granite]

@brave oriole tried lucius. Died in 1 shot. Nvm it's okay I'll ask again later when more cs are online

[tawdry ibex]

Fawk is getting Khasos

[brave oriole]

@last granitehe died front line, back line it's not the same thing. everyone dies one hit from saveas

[last granite]

@brave oriole that's why i put athalia/nara against saveas hun, I know he can 1 shot my team :)

[brave oriole]

you are suiciding anyway hitting Brutus with shemira lol.

[last granite]

@brave oriole I'll die even faster putting shem against khasos lol

[brave oriole]

@last graniteyes, bcs you don't use rowan

[tawdry ibex]

@brave oriole I don't think I can beat this stage until merc

[brave oriole]

send my a pm. with the stage pic, I wilfind a way for ya

[last granite]

@brave oriole tried him too. Dies in about 5 secs. Dw I'll ask someone in question

[brave oriole]

there's not possible to not win with an overleved shemira

[inland kite]

This is getting infuriating

[last granite]

@inland kite try rosaline, belinda, cecilia, shemira, nemora

[inland kite]

Nah I swapped to like lucius, shemira, baden, grezul and Belinda

Belindas attack boost was just what they needed even when she died lol

[fluid bison]

should i ascend brutus to M using Saveas fodder?

[last granite]

@lone grail try swapping belinda with athalia to counter arden. Put rowan behind lucius

[zealous walrus]

Is Silvaina worth using in my lineup? She’s crazy good against me in zone 4 at the moment

[last granite]

@fluid bison not yet. Your goal rn is to get all top 5 of your heroes to Leg+ so keep saveas. #classic-questions can answer you better

@zealous walrus silvina is great! I used to put her in frontline and she'll distract half of the enemy to her so my carry frontline can ult. Also #classic-questions for more opinions

[zealous walrus]

4-16 she died instantly 😂

[last granite]

@zealous walrus yeah obviously level her up first

[zealous walrus]

Haha yeah this isn’t cutting it

[light flume]

Can someone help pls 🙏

[gritty quail]

[stone bluff]

help, 120f wilder

[brave oriole]

@stone bluff all I know is that you need arden Backline down there, the rest build yourself

[spare girder]

Lemme check for a SS if I have

[brave oriole]

@gritty quail try shem up lucius down with dura's call on him, rosaline back of shem, rowan and athalia down vs arden

[spare girder]

@stone bluff this was my comp

[gritty quail]

@brave oriole YOURE the goat 🤗

[spare girder]

Heavily depends on Nemora being high lvl enough so her passive healing from SI counters Thane and her ult counters Athalia. I'd get a Nemora merc and try this...

Nemora
Seirus
Tasi
Ulmus
Lyca

@stone bluff

[calm basalt]

any help

[spare girder]

@light flume
Try:
Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline

@calm basalt

Nemora (charms Arden)
Lucius
Shemira
Brutus
Lyca

[brave oriole]

@calm basalt I would say shem with grace, Rosa , athalia rowan Lucius with call, Or Lucius with call shem with grace, athalia rowan rosa

[calm basalt]

cheers again xperta

[manic sedge]

Yo can someone please let me borrow there elijah for ths week? I've been trying to get one, no success.

I'm makng a lineup for Twisted Realm

[light flume]

@spare girder that did it, thanks sm mate 😁

[cobalt kernel]

any help please:

i've been stuck here for abit, leveling saveus. not sure if it will do anything, most of my mobs seem to die in seconds

i have one slot open in resonating crystal, i'm wondering if khasos's leech will help?

[last granite]

@cobalt kernel i'd put nara and put her against saveas so he won't immediately kill your saveas. I also would swap arden with fawkes since his root ability is not enough to cc the enemy yet

Nara
Brutus/lucius
Tasi
Saveas
Fawkes

If lucius dies too fast swap for brutus

[cobalt kernel]

Thank you, will nara work at lvl 101 or do you think to level her more?

Sorry you can ignore that stupid question, I can't level nara more

[compact wyvern]

Any suggestions on how to best 8-12?

[pale kettle]

Help 19-40

[compact wyvern]

Nvm just beat it!

[still oar]

Try
Arden

Shem
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi(nemora)
Start the fight by rooting Arden and kaz (this is important) and if Nemora is used try charm ogi as optional @pale kettle

[scenic coral]

on 7-36 not sure which characters I should building/ focusing on to progress easier. cheers!

[pale kettle]

@still oar so close

But if arden roots naz and arden shem dies quickly

[ashen mantle]

@pale kettle try it a few times u know wilder stages are soo much rng, usually takes 30+ tries to make it

[pale kettle]

@ashen mantle @still oar did it only took 300 tries

[still oar]

Awesome :+1:

Gz

[ashen mantle]

@pale kettle max tries was around 500 for a wilder stage 😄

[royal grotto]

When its a boss stage, simply check previous battle statistics. There are always people who pass the stage with underpowered roaster

[pale kettle]

@royal grotto ye but it didn't show for some reason i guess the game thinks the stage is easy for you

@ashen mantle oh god I'm not excited for wilders tower

[royal grotto]

Mm It can be, I just told it for the possibility that you or any player missed the feature 🙂

[ashen mantle]

@pale kettle you just need eironn for wilder tower 😄

@pale kettle something fun how strong is eironn, my e+ did more dmg than a 4 * lyca by around 5x 😛

[spring shale]

Im wondering if I'm just too underleveled for the missions I am at right now or if I'm not using a good combination of the heros I have.

[loud minnow]

Guys know how to beat this ?

[violet igloo]

@loud minnow put nemora top keep trying until Nemora charms Arden

[tall forge]

Can’t beat this level.... help

[split peak]

Get rid of lyca and use belinda and u need to upgrade her to lvl240

[heady siren]

@tall forge Sorry. didn't mean to send that yet xD

Belinda
Lyca (you can sacrifice her)
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi

So you'll get a 3-2 faction bonus and better sustain against the Maulers ^^
If you want an artifact suggestion let me know!

[dreamy mirage]

Too much cc help. Being thrown all over the place

[light harbor]

Any idea how to beat it?

[verbal prairie]

Pls Tell me the best Teams for Tower of light and citadel pls :3

[boreal anvil]

16-36 please help

[rough onyx]

lucius backline rowan front @boreal anvil

belinda for lyca

[nocturne furnace]

What’s a good lineup for chapter 24?

[glossy pagoda]

Something with rowan (ideally +30), ferael and tasi

[ashen mantle]

God damn scary tasi KT :/

Time to be stuck in tower for a while 😢

[grand widget]

Guys still can't decide on who to get in challenger store. Should I go for Eironn and build a full wilder team?

[ashen mantle]

Eironn is kinda requierd for wilder tower :)

[twin hare]

Wilder tower 100. Can I clear this? It's my last floor 100 across the 4 towers.

[grand widget]

@ashen mantle so go for Eironn? Pass up on either Ezizh or Athalia?

[ashen mantle]

Hmm not sure rly, ezizh sounds nice :) "dont like athilia that much :)"

@grand widget would just save up coins, u can save up to 500k and anything over goes to ur mail

[gloomy crest]

@twin hare you should look for a mercenary

[twin hare]

OK - probably Eironn from what i've been reading?

[gloomy crest]

ye, but try to put nemora so she can charm arden, switch her position with lyca

[twin hare]

cool, thank you

[still oar]

You can afford the fodder yet @grand widget. Get ezzih first and only buy when.the coins is max so you will have 250k+ coins sitting in case you need to buy eironn

[gloomy crest]

I'd try :
Lyca
Kaz
Nemora
Ulmus
Tasi

if it doesn't work, you can switch toplane and botlane. if ulmus dies too fast, you can try to put tasi in front and ulmus in back, she'll TP away after a hit or two

[grand widget]

@still oar so buy Eironn if I am close to ascending him? I have max coins now so I'll buy Ezizh

[still oar]

Yes

[gray nest]

Wrizz Lineup

I have Dura’s Grace so which one would also get Dura’s grace.

[still oar]

Shem luc Rosa mirael and the 5th maybe wukong, raine or safiya.
Maybe shemira or Rosa @gray nest

[cinder crag]

Any lineups for floor 325 ?

Any like ups for floor 325 ?

[ashen mantle]

Done

[bright arrow]

@cinder crag end it with Toran

Done

[ashen mantle]

Need to get that thoran up so i must not use wierd lineups xD

[odd python]

@cinder crag timing is normally quite tight but if you put your own ezizh in crystal its way easier

[cinder crag]

Managed without thoran thanks

[odd python]

👍

[cinder crag]

But might need thoran cheese after all for floor 330

Fera can't withstand 3 nukers at once

[odd python]

oh looks like i didnt thoran that

just used safiya

[lunar monolith]

Any Idea? Can Use mercs

[cinder crag]

Well my safiya is only elite so nope :( gotta dodge RNG my through

[winter matrix]

Try

Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Lyca/Rosaline
Lucius @lunar monolith

[odd python]

@lunar monolith use nemora across from enemy arden and charm him into rooting his whole team, and then that stage becomes super easy

[winter matrix]

He won't get charmed, because enemy team has Lyca, so he's too fast

[odd python]

use own lyca put good boots

[lunar monolith]

lol I think I don't even have arden

[winter matrix]

Not even an R one?

[lunar monolith]

not even an R one.. wut, I'm wondering as well

[cinder crag]

330 done fera ftw :)

[odd python]

nice, i think youre at the point too where you should consider rowan frontline as being able to interrupt their backliners with his ult can turn a couple of fights

[cinder crag]

Yeah Rowan Frontline might be good I have good lb magic gear too . I feel like for this line up I need lyca +20 for damage buff ; is it max %20 damage ?

[odd python]

nvm i misread and no its not capped at 20% iirc

oh wait it is nvm i completely forgot how lyca worked

[graceful pendant]

How the hell can I not beat this when I see other comps lower level same characters beat it?

[cinder crag]

@odd python :D

[odd python]

@graceful pendant swap lucius rosa imo

[graceful pendant]

@odd python Tried mate, no idea why I struggle so much

[odd python]

i honestly couldnt say, like no bm id expect that stage to be a breeze with those hero levels (gear issue maybe?)

if lb isnt working out you could probably give a physical carry a go to ignore the grez magic resistance increase, could also try putting brutus across from athalia to avoid some of the rng of fawkes dodge

[graceful pendant]

FINALLY, I moved them like you said... but RNG must have been on my side on this go!

[odd python]

oh lol nice gz

[graceful pendant]

Thanks mate.

gear wise on all of them I am T1.... all factioned

[odd python]

the main reason why i suggested that is rosa running to belinda (im assuming) pulls grez in and hes just gonna soak up the ults from belinda without it clearing the ACTUAL problem heroes in that stage

whereas if you have lucius in front of grez hes held further back and rosa still makes it to belinda no issues cos shes across from tasi

[graceful pendant]

trouble is my Belinda is always pulled to Lucia because of his level :/

[odd python]

ahh that old problem

[graceful pendant]

Lucius**

[odd python]

well im not an lb user anyway so idrk how to work around that

[graceful pendant]

hehehe

well thank you very much, stick around need you in a few seconds 😉

[brave oriole]

oh, your lvl is so...... 😂

[odd python]

lol np. anecdotally 25-53,56 and 58 sorta, would be the only hard ones left, and with your level advantage and tree now you should probably be able to make 26, glgl

[brave oriole]

watch and learn my son

[odd python]

yeah brutus across from athalia works well in that stage

[brave oriole]

I'm. working on 53 now😂 arden mamalo

[cinder crag]

Possible or am i pushing my luck lol

If possible without thoran cheese ; I don't want to lose my sanity

[brave oriole]

I think it is, never used thoran cheese in towers, maybe twice in campaign

[odd python]

oh i remember this one, weird thoran cheese where i used shem for some reason

[brave oriole]

baden was awful

[cinder crag]

Numisu + Baden = Getting overwhelmed

[odd python]

in case you do decide to go pro gamer mode

[cinder crag]

Well if i ever want to lose my sanity that's exactly what I am going to do @odd python

[odd python]

eironn does look like he’d be good for this stage though

pos 2 or 4

[brave oriole]

only if he can kill shemira on time

[cinder crag]

If I had +30 eironn I might use him . So far in general fera has taken the mantle of the carry

Btw is Lyca +20 actually Worth it ? Is damage buff noticable ?

[brave oriole]

yep, but my lyca have t2 gear, so it's a strong lyca. but her buff is op for my belinda

[graceful pendant]

gawd.... I can't seem to touch them 😦

[brave oriole]

@graceful pendant but you can use nara if no athalia, to cancel safiya buff

[graceful pendant]

I have Athalia at Mythic+ ?

[brave oriole]

it's good I think, she only have to cc safiya

[graceful pendant]

ok I give it a whirl... I did try Athalia before to do that but maybe wrong comp with her

nope all dead... instantly :/

[brave oriole]

use dura's call on lucius

[spare girder]

@light flume you're welcome my man

[graceful pendant]

any others to change?

[brave oriole]

well, athalia have to be geared and acc artifact if cannot cc safiya, bel eye.. Rosa sword chalice rowan

but dura's call on Lucius change much

but. ofc, you need a few tries at all, it's a hard stage 😂

[brave oriole]

not very sure @pale kettle, I'm. playing lb mostly, but i think that fawk would help to coffin shemira and dispel the tasi banish

[pale kettle]

Ah

Shemira is here to tank banish so Isabella can keep being here and doing damages

[brave oriole]

maybe use dura's call on ghez, and put him vs water dude

[pale kettle]

Mmh

[brave oriole]

his knock down and adds should affect tasi shem

[heady siren]

@pale kettle Hmm... do you think that

Gorvo
Tasi
Isabella
Thoran
Shemira

Would work? If isabella will be able to stay safe after Gorvo and Tasi leave their position, Kaz might focus on Thoran.

Chalice of Vitality - Thoran
I take that you use Dura's Eye or Dura's Blade on Isabella, right?-

[pale kettle]

Mmh

Dura's eye, she have 94% of crit chance and relies a lot of the attack speed so yea

I'd never use dura's blade or call on isabella, it would be a waste

[heady siren]

Right! Makes sense. 🙂 Have you tried putting Thoran? Pretty sure he will use the curse on Kaz or Shemira

[pale kettle]

I did put thoran but I usually use chalice on grezhul, i'll try this way thx

Thing is that grezhul in his stats have higher hp and def than thoran, plus steals opponent defense stats and have a better health regen bc signature 20

Thoran signature is only 11 for now bc resources

[heady siren]

He manages to steal stats from Kaz? Reducing her defense also means reducing her dodge, if yes then he has to be stationary against Kaz..

[brave oriole]

with thoran, you have to let him. die then do the ultimate manual on the right moment

[pale kettle]

Mmh, idk, i should upgrade thoran's sig maybe

[brave oriole]

@pale kettlemaybe you only need rowan support to survive the first attack

[pale kettle]

I don't have rowan

[brave oriole]

@pale kettleenemy tasi banish who?

who ever get the tasi banish, put front line

[pale kettle]

Banish shemira

[brave oriole]

and, BTW @pale kettle, there's something weird with gorvo, you have to put on him some low mspd shoes, not +5, else he jumps too far

[pale kettle]

Mspd ? Shoes ?

🤔❓

[winter matrix]

Movement speed, Boots

[pale kettle]

Ah

[brave oriole]

I had better results with something low mspd at all,

anyway, I would build eironn, Wilders need eironn for dps, so invest everything for getting him

[final hare]

How do I beat this stage?

[brave oriole]

I'm. still. on 53 now, but i can check from another acc, hold on

it's just, I can't cc arden from 53 at all, cuz of damn hypo 😭

[final hare]

Is your athalia +30?

[brave oriole]

20

[final hare]

I see, I give up

[brave oriole]

@final hareyou shouldn't, put call on, lucius

[final hare]

What on rowan then

[brave oriole]

chalice

eye Belinda fawk sword and aThalia convict

if athalia cannot cc, put sword on her

OK passed 53,54 now too

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me make a line up. Im kinda bad at this game

T. T this game confuses me

[final hare]

what content

[pale kettle]

@winter matrix @brave oriole no boots on gorvo is ok ?

[brave oriole]

just use some mythic clean or so @pale kettle, make a test with better boots and with it, see if gorvo jump is diff

[frank herald]

how do i beat this stage? that athalia is hella strong

[brave oriole]

@frank herald

[pale wigeon]

Pls help with wilder team

[worldly lotus]

Stuck at 14-7. Any suggestions on who should i ascend? My current lineup is Lucius, Brutus, Saveas, Shemira, Nemora.

[stone geode]

Halp

[pale kettle]

Overlevel Shemira instead of Nemora, and she'll be able to carry you.

I'd also recommend ascending the heroes you have at L before anyone else, as it's possible that you'll get them stuck on that state for months ot even years - especially if you barely get any copies of them. Prepare L+ fodder in the meantime, and get each and every one of them to M+ before you move on to the next hero.
@worldly lotus

[pale kettle]

Not bad, through try replacing Ira with Nara @pale kettle

should keep enemy Silvina stalled for a bit

[terse herald]

Any help

[ashen mantle]

@terse herald first off, stop ascending heroes to L if u dont have an extra e+ copy of that hero :)

[woven lichen]

@plucky ravine your setup looks fine. Assuming Tasi banishes Shemira, lyca dodges athalia, and nemora charms niru/athalia... silvina jumps on tasi(?)... could try rowan, rosa, fawkes in backline too

[terse herald]

@ashen mantle thanks I’ll look to change that from now on

[pale kettle]

Need help

[quiet barn]

Anyone that can help with the best Soren line-up

[stone geode]

Gonna leave 26-48 here for anybody else that gets stuck on it. Was a super rng stage for me

[ashen mantle]

@stone geode ah good boy eironn to save the day :)

[stone geode]

For sure. Was def worth building lol

[dreamy mirage]

Being cc'd too much, how can I overcome this

[brave oriole]

@dreamy mirageremove Belinda, shem, Lucius with call then chalice, test first, Rosa rowan athalia/nara

you can also try this weird comp, shem Rosa, rowan Lucius athalia

[dreamy mirage]

that last "wierd" comp worked :d

[brave oriole]

[brave oriole]

@gritty quail shem with grace Lucius with call, Rosa rowan safiya

not sure if Rosa will survive to silvina, if not just replace her with fawk

maybe safiya buff will give her the def that she need to survive

oh wait she's jumping on rowan, so he will survive😂

[gritty quail]

@brave oriole dude you are a fucking wizard

[brave oriole]

sometimes, and if you are into this game soo much with donations, I would play on gazer for twins talene

[ashen mantle]

Wow thats some 🐳

[dreamy mirage]

Mr wizard xperta what now xD

[undone venture]

hjelp

[ashen mantle]

@dreamy mirage swap shem and nara positions

[brave oriole]

@dreamy miragewell, now, it's Lucius with call vs tasi, shem with eye or grace vs Lucius, fawk rowan athalia

[ashen mantle]

@brave oriole everyone seems so overleveled, and not trying before asking xD

[dreamy mirage]

Roky's suggestion almost worked but failed, and Xperta is a wizard.

[brave oriole]

@ashen mantlewell, some stages you insta die without the right team😂, nvm your lvl that much

I love overleveled.... enemies 😂

[ashen mantle]

@brave oriole thats true, took me around 50-100 tries 2day for 345 kt xD alot of different lineups

[ashen mantle]

Im still overleveled for kt xD

[brave oriole]

I'm trying to get in chap 26 with my alt😭

[ashen mantle]

😊 u got this

[brave oriole]

almost there

[ashen mantle]

7 more stages

[brave oriole]

yep but my lvl too low already

[mortal abyss]

Any advice? Fereal seems to wreck my team

[ashen mantle]

@brave oriole lowest one who passed c26-60 on the ingame victory thingy is lvl 262 xD thoran ofc xD

@mortal abyss swap lyca and nem pos, and have nem charm him

[bright arrow]

@mortal abyss u can use epic atalia or nara vs ferael or merc

[bright arrow]

@undone venture use Fawkes

[brave oriole]

yeah fawk

[bright arrow]

Cecilia good vs bosses))

[brave oriole]

sounds like an xxx name her name 😂

[mortal abyss]

@ashen mantle thanks it worked, is it rng whether Nemora in that position hits the fereal in back or the grezhul in front?

[brave oriole]

she can hit one from 3 targets on her line, so it's rng if Fera or someone else. if not ferael, restart and try again

[mortal abyss]

Perfect thanks

[undone venture]

big stuck

[brave oriole]

@undone venture silvina attacks who?

[soft swallow]

How can i do this

[brave oriole]

@soft swallow hey man, first set the wishlist right you have lots of bad elites pulled I see. second, if you are going for shemira carry, keep Belinda legendary, and invest your resources in Lucius rowan rosa. buy always shemira from the lab shop, factions scrolls for lb always. now, about your stage, you can try shemira up, Brutus down, estrilda back of shemira, lyca tasi maybe

[soft swallow]

Can you show me a good wishlist

[undone venture]

@brave oriole silvina attacks belinda

[fluid bison]

anyone can suggest a good lineup

[boreal valley]

Last level of the voyage and Im stuck rn.

These are my relics btw. I don’t have mercenaries unlocked sadly

[brave oriole]

oh, what's your ingame name? @boreal valley

[wheat hemlock]

Pls help

[boreal valley]

@brave oriole same as discord

[brave oriole]

@boreal valleywhat server?

[gritty quail]

Almost had it once but was sheer luck

[brave oriole]

mm @gritty quail, Lucius shem, fawk rowan rosa

[gritty quail]

2nd try you 3/3 with me lol

[brave oriole]

oh, it's not me, your visa 😂

[gritty quail]

I just want to clear this dam chapter

[brave oriole]

mm, Lucius shem, fawk nemora Rosa or rowan, and try hard to charm ferael

[gritty quail]

Got it with that Arthur was able to sustain long enough for Lucius and Rowan to do their cycles

[boreal valley]

@brave oriole 488

[brave oriole]

@boreal valley I added you on my fl, so you can take a shemira merc from me or belinda

[brave oriole]

@gritty quailLucius Rosa, fawk rowan shem

maybe need dura's call on Lucius to fast cast the shield there

[gritty quail]

4/4 lol

Last one i promise

[brave oriole]

should work the same, just sometimes fawk will. die of numitsu aoe, so just restart

[copper bough]

what can i do?

[west aurora]

tips?

[boreal valley]

@brave oriole thanks bro!

[zenith tusk]

Almost giving up
Hate these wilders backline sooo much

And The worst is that The New feature shows with which comp people won and theres people with Far feaker teams passing

[brave oriole]

@zenith tusk so you expect to win with your heroes under arden root? 😂

@sweet crane fawk coffins who? Belinda?

[zenith tusk]

the best comps on the new feature are away from kaz early buff damage

she destroy my shemira even worse than arden... :c

[brave oriole]

@zenith tuskall you have to do it's to put Lucius with dura's call on him vs kaz😂

[haughty creek]

What would be my best lineup for Soren?

[split peak]

Well first off that belinda needs to upgraded no reason to focus on saveas when u have a mythic belinda

[jovial gate]

@split peak is Belinda a viable carry chapter 13ish?

[split peak]

Absolutely

If u can get lucky with lucius u will have an easy time till chapter 18-19

[jovial gate]

Here’s my current team, running sav lucius fawkes Rowan and Brutus

[real palm]

How on earth do people beat this without overleveling them

[split peak]

Yep with just lucius and belinda u can easily make it to chapter 18-19

[jovial gate]

I’m low on fodder, would Belinda have to go mythic

[split peak]

The higher the better yes the fodder situation wont be easy but if u can get two more lucius copies and ascend both of them they are great till endgame

[split peak]

Even better u need one more lucius

[jovial gate]

Can swapping to Belinda work as-is, L+?

[real palm]

Nvm i beat it the very next attempt lmao

[jovial gate]

Praise rng gods @real palm

[split peak]

They need to be leveled up so u will need to grind some hero xp

[jovial gate]

Well I would cart saveas if I swapped

[split peak]

Make sure to buy belinda from the challenger store until u have enough to ascend

[jovial gate]

Belinda > athalia in challenger?

[split peak]

Saveas is only good to lvl 160

Athalia is an end game beast but till then belinda is great

[spare girder]

@jovial gate No and forget popular beliefs Ezizh>Athalia esp. if you spend all ur stargazers on Twins.

[split peak]

To get athalia to 5 star it will cost u a kidney or two or a long time to grind

[spare girder]

@split peak haha yeah but I mean Ascended is enough, stars are optional

[split peak]

Even zero star is million of lab tokens

[jovial gate]

I’ve pulled zero stargazers and the purple faction so far just have the one monkey

[split peak]

Challanger* ps dont even touch stargazer unless u have the cards

[haughty creek]

So belinda would be a better carry than saveas?

[jovial gate]

I feel like saveas is better early... Belinda and shemira after saveas caps at 160

My alt is struggling here... I also have a good amount of exp saved up.

[brave oriole]

@jovial gateand silvina attacks who?

anyway fawk it's not needed, I would rather put a cheese mage back of Lucius, a celestial/hypogean. and maybe Rosa front of shem

[idle oriole]

Lineups for my friend?

[jovial gate]

@brave oriole thanks! Silvina attacks Rosa

[woven lichen]

@idle oriole Mirael and saveas would have been nice but can use shemira or Belinda... Lucius Brutus Belinda/shemira estrilda Safiya.... or maybe shemira Brutus Nemora lyca Arden (overlevel your carry by 20-40 levels)

[slender echo]

Any advice please guys?

[woven lichen]

@slender echo try using wilder trio of lyca Arden/tasi Nemora in back and try to charm Ferael and root or banish Isabelle/shemira

[slender echo]

OK, will give that a shot, thanks

[light harbor]

Any idea how to beat it?

[still oar]

Try
Rowan

Shem
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi.
Use tasi as bait and try charming grezhul @light harbor. If tasi always does try lorsan in place of her

[slender echo]

Who should I get from the challenger store? I'm thinking Belinda, and Shemira from Labyrinth store?

But I seem to use Fawkes quite a lot at the moment

[spare girder]

Get Athalia not Belinda... You'll summon Belinda eventually, Getting Shem for you now is priority, then Estrilda next maybe cause you look like you're building LB and she adds some form of versitility.

I need help with this... That Thane is stronger than he looks.

[wanton crystal]

Help... I’m stuck 😭

[spare girder]

Show me your heroes. @wanton crystal

[spare girder]

Lyca
Brutus
Mehira
Lucius
Belinda

@wanton crystal

[wanton crystal]

Thank you I’ll give it a try

[copper urchin]

Hello how pass this?

[spare girder]

@copper urchin you can Thoran cheese it, do u have Thoran with signature item?

Sorry I'm blind try using.

Rowan
Thoran
Eironn
Lyca
Lorsan

Play on manual 1x speed so you can time your ult properly

[wanton crystal]

Didn’t work 😭😭 @spare girder

[copper urchin]

@spare girder

[pale kettle]

What would be the absolutely ideal lineup for a "carry Belinda" team?

Belinda, Rosaline, Rowan, Lucius, Fawkes.
in my opinion at least

Who would be frontline together with Lucius? Fawkes?

Rosaline

[spare girder]

@copper urchin will work just give him better gear.

[pale kettle]

Thank you @pale kettle! ^^

[spare girder]

@wanton crystal why didn't it work?

[wanton crystal]

Not sure.. they die really quick lol

[mighty veldt]

@slender echo did you already get the Shemira from chapter 15 and divine realm ?

[glossy pagoda]

@wanton crystal you could try resetting eironn and solise to 100, and level up belinda as much as you can. Having an overleveled carry has proven itself to be a good strategy in early and midgame

[wanton crystal]

Okay I’ll give that a try..

[wintry ether]

Any advice? I've tried this stage a few different ways now

[glossy pagoda]

You tried wilder trio with nemora mid alot already? Nemora needs to charm ferael for it to work

If tasi also banishes ferael (i think he is the only 1* enemy there) replace her with arden

[wintry ether]

Ahh. Wilder trio is tasi nem lyca ya?

That worked thanks

[pliant rampart]

Some help?

Athalia shots everyone except rosaline

[heady siren]

@pliant rampart Could you share another screenshot of the enemy formation?- I don't think you're fighting 3 loading signs :x

[pliant rampart]

Oh lol, il sorry

[spare girder]

I definitely Kaz carried this stage... want my screenshot? @pliant rampart

[pliant rampart]

@spare girder yes please

But I'll need to request her as mercenary

[spare girder]

I didn't take a screenshot for that level but my comp would be like.
Tasi (Call)
Kaz (Blade)
Lyca (Drape/Conviction)
Rowan (Chalice/Grace)
Nemora(Eye)

Kaz will dodge Athalia's entry and kill her. Nemora charms Seirus so he turns on Lyca, Nemora's ult will save u from Athalia's ult.

Call on Tasi instead of Nemora so she baits the enemies banish because since hers is faster it'll raise her power and make her the enemies target.

[glossy pagoda]

Hopefully kaz merc has still enough dodge

[spare girder]

To dodge the entry?

[glossy pagoda]

Just in general, i tried jhemps kaz as a merc once but no t1 on boots was big oof

[spare girder]

Oh shoot

He could probably get away with Thoran cheese tho'... Maybe

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe a ferael merc, but that one will suffer from bad dodge gear too

[viscid pasture]

@cobalt radish Reset Shem, you do not need her yet. Put all the levels in Saveas or Vedan, you want them to be 40 levels above your lowest top 5 hero. Good luck

[glossy pagoda]

Atleast he probaply cant survive in position 1, like mine did. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580087016662892546/678343420053553162/Screenshot_20200215-215400.png

Maybe his lyca tho

[spare girder]

Wish I had that Ferael

[glossy pagoda]

Ye this lineup made short work 24-48 too

[cobalt radish]

@cobalt radish Reset Shem, you do not need her yet. Put all the levels in Saveas or Vedan, you want them to be 40 levels above your lowest top 5 hero. Good luck
@viscid pasture OK, thanks, I'll try that!

[subtle talon]

Someone an idea? Ty

[copper urchin]

is passed

[grand widget]

Any help?

[glossy pagoda]

Sadly nemora cant charm arden, with enemy lyca around, better bring ur own arden too

[brisk pecan]

Hi all! Newish to the game. Honestly just wondering what comp I should be running. I made 2 heros L before knowing exactly what to do with fodder. I'm currently.running belinda lucius rowan shem and tasi. Is there a better potential comp?

[copper urchin]

And now?

[glossy pagoda]

@brisk pecan I think swapping between rosa lorsan and nemora instead of shemira should help

[zinc stump]

@brisk pecan did you do the first 4 PoT? And do you have a copy of Fawks tucked that I dont see there?

[brisk pecan]

@glossy pagoda at the moment it feels like shem and belinda are hard carrying

@42 I've done I believe the first 5. No copies of fawkes!

[glossy pagoda]

Well i dont know how under/overleveled ur pushing tho. Mehira can be good for some stages too

[zinc stump]

@brisk pecan Bel Rosa front with Luc Rowan/Raine Fawkes or other CC back would walk you to ch 20 pretty easily...

[minor agate]

Any suggestions on if I should reset anyone and rebuild or just general advice? And yes I know I should've water to L+ before I made them L haha

[glossy pagoda]

I think fawkes and safiya may be more useful on crystal atm, compared to ferael and saveas

[cobalt radish]

My team is melting 😢

[zinc stump]

@minor agate put Raine on your resonance slot and try the Bel Rosa Raine Luc Fawkes comp until you get shem built and can try Shem Lyca Tasi Nemura Tank comp

[brisk pecan]

@glossy pagoda I'm not sure what you mean by under or over leveled pushing, sorry. I just feel like rowan is kinda useless at the moment but I dont see a good substitute for being e+ at the moment. What makes fawkes so good ?

[copper urchin]

how pass this?

[minor agate]

Thanks @zinc stump

[zinc stump]

@brisk pecan lower Ascensions Raine outshines Rowan for energy battery. Fawkes is good cause he has cc that removes the strongest enemy from the field for a while.

[glossy pagoda]

I mean if ur fighting against level 170-190 with that comp, shemira will be surely good enough. Vs 210+ enemies maybe not. @brisk pecan

[zinc stump]

@cobalt radish if you have a copy of a healer like Nemura I'd suggest trying to use them

[brisk pecan]

@glossy pagoda so should I finish off my shem and then look to build fawkes? I dont see any situation where I would leave luc out. Would fawkes be okay if i were to use him even as a standard e?

[zinc stump]

@copper urchin your Rowan is offset and not pumping energy or health to Shem

[cobalt radish]

@zinc stump No Nemora unfortunately, this is everything I've got

[scenic coral]

what should i be building to progress? 7-40

[copper urchin]

@zinc stump my rowan is instank kill

[glossy pagoda]

Yes, e fawkes will work for a while @brisk pecan. So would lorsan nemora and rosaline and mehira, depending on stage.

[zinc stump]

@brisk pecan fawkes e or e+ is good enough for a long time. One of the last LB to build. Bel first then whoever you get copies of first for Luc Rowan or Rosa

[violet igloo]

Hi @scenic coral I would suggest you read the quick guide pinned in #classic-questions, and you have Saveas so you're going in the right direction.

@scenic coral if you want the best progression, keep focusing on wilders heroes, and buy only Shemira in Lab shop.

[copper urchin]

@zinc stump o cant resist and get killed before pumped

[violet igloo]

Put Saveas 120 and other heroes 100.

Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi/Lyca
Lyca/Tasi

is a fantastic team you can make right now @scenic coral

[brisk pecan]

Thanks for the information! I'll keep up with my shem progression and then buy fawkes. Also, I made my grezhul l+ but at the moment I'd never use him over my luc. Should I bench him permanently?

[scenic coral]

alright thank you heaps!

[violet igloo]

i would actually say it's almost a perfect team, you got really nice pulls

[zinc stump]

@brisk pecan Shem is your first buy each month until A. Nemura on months you can get a 2nd. Bel is your focus in Challenger shop once you have it open. Those are your 3 of 5 fastest to A then go for who you have the most copies of.

@brisk pecan I wouldnt focus on him for a while but hes not useless. There will be times you need him

[glossy pagoda]

Well he got a belinda already

[brisk pecan]

@42 my bel is already A. Should I take her up to 1 star?

[glossy pagoda]

Nah better go for for another heroe now, maybe e fawkes, then eironn or ezizh/athalia

[zinc stump]

@brisk pecan @glossy pagoda sorry confused with another ss. Whoops.
Maybe grab a copy of Fawkes and make sure hes WL. After that you can look at Eironn... once you have 5A or are close Alathia becomes more of an option...

[brisk pecan]

Super appreciate it guys. What exactly is WL? I have an e+ eironn at the moment

[zinc stump]

Wishlist

[brisk pecan]

Ahhh got ya. Big thanks. My worry is fawkes will instadie because his stats are low due to just being e

[zinc stump]

For yours I'd say Gwen, Rowan, Luc, Rosa, Fawks for your LB wishlist

Mine is still E+ and doing well...

[pseudo hill]

Could someone help me out here? I’ve only just got Shemira to mythic and I’m not sure if I’m using her correctly

[cobalt radish]

@zinc stump Any alternatives to Nemora?

[brisk pecan]

Thanks so much !!

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill push her to 161 and you'll see a noticable difference and prob put Nem in there...

[scenic coral]

just beat 7-40 with that comp thanks paddy

[blissful cobalt]

Not sure what should I do here since enemy levels are around 10 levels higher than 120 now

[pseudo hill]

@zinc stump who else should I lvl in order to get her to 161?

I have a lot of Thoran

[brisk pecan]

So sorry last question. Start fawkes from e or get eironn who is already e+ going?

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill do you have 1 more E+ LB fodder tucked down there to make Morvus L+?

[pseudo hill]

@zinc stump

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill Make a L+ Morvus and reset Estrilda. As soon as you get 1 more copy of Bel push her to M to take his spot but hold off on M+ until you can fill that other Hogan slot with a different L+ fodder.

[pseudo hill]

Morvus is good? @zinc stump

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill good for breaking your level cap atm. Dont worry about what heros are manually leveled only that they are leveling everyone else

[pseudo hill]

Done

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill now level him to 140 so you can put shem to 161

[pseudo hill]

Did it to 160

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill can you push shem to 180?

[pseudo hill]

She’s 174

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill well... that's why I was saying 140 but deed is done. Now try her and see...

[pseudo hill]

Ok, ty

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill since your Brutus is now 160 also try I'm in Hogans slot on the comp you're using...

[mighty veldt]

Well works in his favor now he can just keep pushing Shem all the way to 200 now since everyone is already 160 for him

[zinc stump]

True @pseudo hill

[mighty veldt]

Oh geez he’s in chapter 11 lol he’ll probably make enough xp from 11-16~ to take Shem to 180 lol didn’t see that

[zinc stump]

@mighty veldt hes probably gonna fly to 15 in the next hour or so. Lol

[mighty veldt]

Exactly hopefully he’s been saving his guild coins he’ll be able to get mythic gear from guild store next reset lol he’s about to experience a whole new world

[limpid quail]

M shem is capped at 180 though 😉

[minor agate]

So I tried out Raine and she's dying way too quick but I threw in Rowan and made a few lvls so should I stick with this comp or try to up Raine?

[pseudo hill]

@zinc stump @mighty veldt I never realised how much shem Changes the game

[cobalt radish]

any ideas on what to do with this lineup? I'm stuck at 6-39

[mighty veldt]

Yeah enjoy your climb to chapter 16 lol probably can push it to 17-18 honestly since you’re at 160 crystal just going to get tougher around 16 to push but you’ll cream 11-15 @pseudo hill

[pseudo hill]

Wow, ty

[last wharf]

Any help puts the last stage of chapter 14?

[zinc stump]

@minor agate swap her positions. She will do loads more for you normally than an E+ Rowan can. It's the comp that got me through early and mid game... swap rosa into front row with Bel. Grace or blade on Bel call on Rosa eye on Raine because shes guaranteed crit...

[pseudo hill]

@zinc stump is Belinda rly good?

[minor agate]

Ok thanks again @zinc stump

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill Shemira is good cause she self heals and doesnt require the exact support Bel does so a bit more flexible. Bel on the other hand lays down more dps in the right comp

@minor agate without Luc I would suggest sticking to the Saveas into Shemira route. You could try using Nem as a healer instead of Luc but it's not quite as efficient.

[minor agate]

I'm working on getting them both up but I've had no luck getting more copies of shemira, saveas I can nearly E+ just waiting on another copy or two but once I get them I'll try and make the push for them both

[zinc stump]

@minor agate you should be buying Shem as 1st buy from Lab shop each month and Nem as 2nd on the months you can get 2. Bel you'll get from the challenger store after Ch9. Those 3 can be manually leveled but the other leveled heros should be fodder heros until you are ready to replace those heros with M copies of 2 other A tier heros. Focus 1 hero per faction at a time

[minor agate]

I've already bought her but shop resets in 2 days for me so should I wait for the rest and buy Shem before nem? Bel is pretty much my prio 1 since I can get a copy from sigils and store

[zinc stump]

@minor agate not the best course for sigals but too late to change now. Its inefficient to go for shop heros from events

[minor agate]

I started late on it without research so it's my bad there, with that said should I grab Bel from sigils and Fawkes from store? I have 1 copy of Fawkes and bel so I could L+ them once I get them.

[pseudo hill]

So should I summon today to get another bel on the faction specific scrolls? @zinc stump

[zinc stump]

@pseudo hill you could but cant guarantee it will be a copy of Bel unless you plan to $ whale for scrolls to keep drawing...

[pseudo hill]

@zinc stump I’ll get scrolls from going through the chapters

[minor agate]

I feel like such a scrub asking these questions lol

[viscid pasture]

@cloud frigate Low level Shem is garbage reset her for now, don't use until she's level 161, do not level more than 5 heroes. You are still a bit too early to rely on ascended tier heroes - reset rigby. Belinda can stay. You want your carry to be 40 levels above the lowest level on the team

[quiet barn]

How much dust does 221 cost?

[viscid pasture]

Wasn't it something like 20k?

[zinc stump]

@minor agate it's what we are here for. Questions are how we learn. Pay it forward once you have a good handle on things and it's all good

@quiet barn 30k

[minor agate]

I appreciate all the help 😁 I always try to help once I'm better

[cloud frigate]

What team should I make

[viscid pasture]

scroll up like for 2 seconds

[cloud frigate]

I was told to reset Belinda and Rigby but with whom to replace

Not belinda but shemira

[tribal flower]

Need some help just learnt you shouldn’t upgrade to leg unless you can leg+ also Angelo is hot garbage

[viscid pasture]

So the way early game works in this game is, purple tier heroes are not great at this part. You want to take a blue tier carry, prefferably one of the faction you intend to use later on. Good carries are Saveas, Silvina, Vedan, Mirael, Ira - focus on one of them, or anyone else you like a lot

And use the rest of the team to compliment your carry accordingly to the stage you are fighting

[winter matrix]

@cloud frigate only level up your top 5, so go to the Rickety Cart and reset Lucius, Rigby, Mirael
Then lvl up Hogan and Ira to 101, because their cap is higher than E heroes.

Then overlevel Shemira to lvl 140 and keep the rest at 101.

Rosaline
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius
Belinda

Put Tasi, Lucius, Rosaline in crystal

[viscid pasture]

Lucius and Belinda are pretty safe to assume will be main stay for the most part, then the carry of your choice, and maybe some CC would be good to have

Shem won't progress very fast at his level. She feels better than she is but any other carry can progress faster

[ruby blade]

I’m stuck on this, been switching them out and messing around a bit, but get so close

[viscid pasture]

I do not think you need E Talene here at all. I did not get to use her yet but E dps rarely contributes much. Change her with Rowan, put rowan on 4 Belinda can go up. Whom does Silvina attack?

[mighty veldt]

@ruby blade you’d be better off dropping Belinda nemora and Lucius to 141 and getting Shem as close to 180 as possible

[winter matrix]

Reset everyone to 140 and then Shemira to 180.

Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline @ruby blade

[ruby blade]

Okay thanks

[tribal flower]

Uh can someone help me with the pic I sent ty

[mighty veldt]

Can’t really offer any advice or help since you’ve already wasted the fodder kind of have to wait for more fodder

[ruby blade]

Lol so do I keep my Ira at 141 because shes my only other L+ for the crystal?

[winter matrix]

Focus on getting top 5 to 140 and then do

Belinda
Brutus
Rosaline
Wukong/Eironn
Lyca
@tribal flower

[mighty veldt]

You’re leveling the same heroes you just want to get back the xp to pump Shem as the main carry

[viscid pasture]

You always want to have your 5 highest ascended heroes in crystal. Even if you do not use them

[ruby blade]

@viscid pasture Yeah I kept Ira as a L+ for future fodder and she stays on the Crystal

[tribal flower]

@winter matrix thanks appreciate it

[viscid pasture]

This is what you are supposed to do. The gameplay is very organic. You get an L+ rare tier hero because they are objectively superior to ascended tier heroes, and then when they can no longer level up you use them to M an ascended tier hero

[ruby blade]

Got me 600 Diamonds for getting his level up too lol

[mighty veldt]

I’d do
Lucius talene
Rowan
Rosa. Shem
@ruby blade

[zinc stump]

@ruby blade double carry isnt very effective. Chose between shem or Bel. You are sacrificing control to have 2 carry heros with Luc back row Bel can tank pretty well especially with Grace

@ruby blade Shemira, Nemura, Tasi, Lyca, Arthur/ Wuk/Brutus/Talene

[ruby blade]

@zinc stump Yeah not really using Bel as a carry anymore

[midnight breach]

any 5Heads can help? I switched around a lot but couldn't complete it

[violet igloo]

I'd try

Ferael
Nara
Shemira
Thoran
Grezhul

Swap around Nara with Thoran if doesn't work

[quiet barn]

Thanks @viscid pasture @zinc stump

[idle oriole]

22-42

[south pagoda]

Brutally stuck... please help 😂

[midnight breach]

@violet igloo i tried even upgraded everyone boots to T1 and still cant beat it

[light harbor]

@south pagoda I have the same heroes with you, but i forgot how i beat them

[violet igloo]

@midnight breach then you need higher ascended thoran and more levels probably

[frozen wave]

Currently running Lucius, Shemira, Tasi, Saveas, and Belinda - looking for some help/wondering what to aim for to finally beat stage 15-40. Swapped over Dura's Eye from Saveas to Belinda (Saveas seems to be dropping off noticeably/dying quicker than pre-crystal capped and Bel is doing sick damage, although sometimes I do notice Saveas doing great damage still), but I feel like Nemora or maybe even Rosaline at Legendary would benefit more? Any hints/tips/help is much appreciated!!!

[violet igloo]

@frozen wave You need to put Shemira M+ ASAP and put her level 200.

[light harbor]

@south pagoda My team power around 600k at the time i beat them. I think its
Rowan
Shem
Lucius
Brutus
Fawkes

[frozen wave]

@violet igloo im trying for another copy of her soooooo hard, lol

dang, just pulled my first Rowan yesterday -_- I absolutely love him though (using in lab, friends, etc)

[violet igloo]

you don't need another copy, you need a L+ GB fodder

there is a reason why your shemira isn't M+ and you are stuck

[frozen wave]

oh right derp thats what i meant lol (still on first coffee)

[violet igloo]

the reason is simple : you have ascended far too many heroes to Legendary, and they are stuck there being useless

[light harbor]

@south pagoda because i need arden to not root lucius and shem

[frozen wave]

true, i didnt understand how the evolution worked until i screwed up.. clearly lolsame with Bel

[violet igloo]

I would recommend you reading the quick guide pinned in #classic-questions 🙂

yeah it's a very common mistake

i mean, it's not a mistake, it's just a delay to your progress

[frozen wave]

I mean I've learned my lesson now, Kelthur was for the crystal but too hasty and didnt have a single shemira copy at that point

[violet igloo]

yeah, well that's what went wrong unfortunately

[frozen wave]

true, ill take it as a mistake/ own up to not doing the proper research in advance lol

[violet igloo]

we all did mistake, I used a shemira as fodder when I was low level : D

[frozen wave]

so bank on that Kelthur/Vedan to L+ so shem can boost?

lol ok, happens to the best of us 😄

definitely a delay though.. would love to at least get everyone in my crystal to Mythic asap, but unsure of who to aim for

and time vs being too hasty like my last mistake lol

[violet igloo]

Use only legendary tier heroes as fodder (the blue ones you open in packs)

keep kelthur L, when you can get him to L+ put him to L+ then leave him there,

[frozen wave]

ok, dont feed him to Shemira? use Vedan for that?

[violet igloo]

yes

[south pagoda]

@light harbor I will try now

[violet igloo]

kelthur is a ascended tier hero (you can only open him in purple) he's much rarer

[frozen wave]

ok roger that, u mean elites?

[violet igloo]

yes