It is kinda sad that you need to have ezizh in becaise he dont help your team in any way but he is required
#lineup-help
vernal berry
glossy pagoda
@tall forge try something on the line of
Athalia
Shemira
Rowan
Nemora
Rosaline
I think rosa induced shemira ult is ur best bet here. I used 220/240 numisu + rosaline for this, so hopefully ur shemira can do it too, besides having the faction disadvantage
tiny junco
Guys I need help dealing with 25-29, as I keep dying before even managing anything.
All equipped with mythic tier 1 gear many with full faction bonus.
mighty veldt
@rugged marten you’ll have better damage with Belinda/ Rosa frontline twins ezizh rowan backline
Your damage would even go up if you put Shem/Rosa frontline as well but Belinda/Rosa should probably do more damage try both and you should do more than your current regardless
Oh @rugged marten perfect example we’re same twisted realm level
Literally first run I did so I’d say it works well
undone venture
help i cant beat this at all
carmine lion
gilded jewel
Any ideas? Kaz blows people up and ira slows shem too much
odd python
@mighty veldt imo its more timing abilities rather than lineup
mighty veldt
Well true @odd python but he doesn’t have his Rosa frontline so she’s not getting the twins link buff so he’s literally missing out on pure damage just from that
odd python
true, i think its also his using shem cos imo belinda benefits more from sorcery bonus as her ults dmg is done in < 3 seconds while shem is spread out so the second half of shem ult loses on the bonus (shem makes up for it with sig increased dmg but his is only +10)
lean anchor
Is this do able
hollow blade
I need help pls
torn lava
@hollow blade try switching Belinda Rosa
@lean anchor try swapping Rosa for Belinda and take out Belinda for Arden
hollow blade
@torn lava nothing any other ideas?
torn lava
Sometimes you need a couple of retries for rng
Maybe if I can see what’s the problem.. any way you can send last screens of the fight or last 10s maybe?
crimson kraken
Been stuck here for a while... Tried some different comps LB/GB
brave oriole
@rose tundraofc he dies, try call on Lucius and put him up, and maybe use rowan middle and not tasi. but all in all, I would insta reset ferael and get shem to 220 
hazy comet
17-6 getting demolished...
brave oriole
@crimson kraken
@hazy cometmmmm, you need a diff Backline, with arden rowan lyca.i think that Lucius need dura's call to cancel kaz aoe at all. so arden can survive on his back
hazy comet
Yeah that didn’t work since no factional bonus. Demolished even more 😉
rose tundra
@brave oriole no way im resetting ferael, its top 5 i would need someone better than him to be replaced if i dont want my crystal to bring everyone at lvl 1
brave oriole
@rose tundrai mean, reset to 180
mighty veldt
That way Shem can be 220 is why he said that
And if you have spare dust afterwards you can put him at 181
pine cedar
How solid is my line up any suggestions?
brave oriole
@pine cedar not very good, cuz you have 4 lb working on. you will get stuck of fodders badddd at some point. I would try to work on shemira than on Belinda, on that way you can ascend to m Lucius and rowan easier
pine cedar
I have 5 LB for my main lineup
brave oriole
yeah, but at some. point you will get stuck badly cuz no fodders
so, work for shemira and Lucius from now, and should be good
rose tundra
So ya mean reset him to lvl1, get him to 180 and the rest in shem?
brave oriole
@rose tundrayep, shemira 220 it's a huge boost
pine cedar
Belinda is my damage carry
brave oriole
@pine cedartrust me, she won't be for long, you won't have fodders to ascend Lucius too
you can ascend her on late game, chap 23 24,no worries
if you want to get stuck for months cuz of bad management, it's up to you. I would work to get shemira ascended and Lucius, then rowan rosa and then Belinda
robust pulsar
How could i setup so i can get further on this stage?
Brutus and Wu Kong get 1 shot by the saveasa (Brutus survives a bit with passive)
Lucius doesnt get his ultimate off most of hte time,
Tasi and Saveas are not enough
Tasi gets ult off and i only kill Nr 2 & 5
Brute forcing ends me having Saveas vs Saveas, where his Saveas will stall
brave oriole
@robust pulsaryou need some support, like rowan, but i would try Brutus tasi, Lucius wukong saveas.
robust pulsar
So
Brutus
Tasi
Lucius
WuKong
Saveas
Lineup?
brave oriole
yeah maybe Lucius can shield like this
rugged marten
@mighty veldt tried Belinda and lost 20 mil damage
robust pulsar
1st try, he can barely shield, but in exchange tasi dies
brave oriole
@robust pulsartry saveas front instead of tasi
pale kettle
Can i get better 5 than first five maulers ?
robust pulsar
If your question was regardign whether you should do a 5 mauler team
Answer is likely no, you need some support (like nemora/tasi) in most stages
pine cedar
Saveas can be your damage but you still lack support and cc
rugged marten
@mighty veldt
pale kettle
Any ideas for me ? I have ascension like this
brave oriole
@rugged marteni think. shemira is better than bel
rugged marten
I did better with Shem, got more but someone said Belinda would do better, that's why I tried it
brave oriole
use call on Rosa
rugged marten
Got call on Rosa, Merc Rowan with Call I think, Goblet on twins, Drape on Ezizh and Blade on shem/Bel @brave oriole
robust pulsar
@brave oriole Its RNG kinda
But no matter the setup, currently till the end only saveas & Saveas (sometimes tasi) survive
And in those fights both saveas are just fighting together untill the end of time
upper flint
Any Ideas?
brave oriole
@robust pulsareverything it's RNG, but a small change like a artifact or else, can lead you to the win
@upper flint
pale kettle
Is it worth to do Elite+ Vedan ? What can i change, i have 5 Maulers gram
mighty veldt
@rugged marten you don’t put call on Rosa you put eye on Rosa and call on twins
rugged marten
Alright, I'll try that @mighty veldt
mighty veldt
Should work even better for you since you’ll have call on Rowan and twins that way my Rowan has chalice on since I have call on my twins , good luck
rugged marten
Did better thanks, I'll try Shem again for my last attempt @mighty veldt
mighty veldt
Nice it’s heavily rng dependant though especially if you auto battle had like a 1-50 mil spread on my 5 attempts 160 being the lowest 213 being the highest iirc @rugged marten
pale kettle
Is there a better way to go with my Heroes
hollow blade
Can sb help me?
scenic frost
anyone have their F300 lineup
light harbor
Any idea for a better formation?
gray nest
Optimal Lineup
pale kettle
Kt 300 pls help
crimson kraken
@brave oriole just saw your message, thanks! Had to use an Eziz merc... because I don't own any. BUt worked 😄
compact mural
Can someone recommend a team for gwyneth
modern apex
Halp can't beat stage plz
odd python
@rugged marten this is my floor 270 ice shem just +10sig on belinda and rosa, timing of abilities and artifacts make the difference, my setup personally is blade belinda eye rosa (had 400m+ with both swapped too so either works) call rowan chalice ezizh and call on twins merc
i can try out shem next cycle and see how she goes
green arch
Very stuck any suggestions or am i too underleveled?
torpid crag
Just had a whalegasm. Your default definitely looks funny. Probably just swap in Cecilia instead of brutus unless that's a suicide position. Looks pretty tame though. 1. Shemira 2. Lucius 3. Rosaline 4. Rowan 5. Cecilia
If you have a Fawkes, use him instead of rosaline
- Cecilia 2. Shemira 3. Lucius 4. Rowan 5. Fawkes?
Unfortunately your lb are slightly too strong haha. Kinda hard to take aggro off Arden...
Can also possibly just take Cecilia to 180 and make her carry haha
light harbor
@green arch Youre not underleveled, my 600k formation can reach ch20 yesterday
blissful cobalt
I'm stuck here halp
winter matrix
@blissful cobalt
Lyca
Brutus
Rosaline
Lucius
Belinda
blissful cobalt
I don't think I have enough exp
winter matrix
Lucius & Brutus to 120 for now.
After that everyone else to 100 @blissful cobalt
blissful cobalt
I have used up all exp to make this team only enough for a single lv120 and other heros need to stay at lv90-ish if I average their levels
winter matrix
Go afk
blissful cobalt
Ohh o I'm underleveled
Btw what is a rule of thmb for enemy level matching my carry hero levels?
Like I know my dps carry needs to be +40 than the rest of the team but what should be he threshold for enemy level difference with my dps carry?
winter matrix
Try to not get your carry killed before the 1st ult.
Also keep in mind, certain factions go hetter against other ones
scenic frost
anyone who posts a winning 300 strat i will kiss u
rugged marten
@odd python my main issue is twins die with Ezizh in spot 5 at about 45 seconds into it, so that probsbyl causes my damage to drop a bunch as well
odd python
that part is just rng i think, sometimes mine die at 45ish too but on the good runs which is like 1 in 3 they go till last 5 sec, dont need fancy setup but you need always keep ice shem abilities down especially when that ice sphere thing is forming
rugged marten
Right okay, ill try manual for my last go, Belinda or Shem then?
Twins had call on my last attempt
odd python
personally i use belinda cos shes worked so far, ive seen shem players on the leaderboard but seems to be minimum +20, probably a good sorcery tree too
main thing is carry always ults as soon as possible after rosa
rugged marten
That parts fine, it's the downtime before Rosa's Ult which causes Ice Shem to get her skills in
odd python
yeah you gotta like play it smart with manual or just pray to rng, ive had 380mil run on auto before but usually around 150-200mil if im not timing
also sorta depends who gets rowan coins
rugged marten
Twins are out of range of Rowans Ult with them being in 1 and Rowan being in 3
atomic forge
i need help figuring line up
odd python
wait you have rowan 3? use carry rosa twins rowan ezizh 1-5
rugged marten
4 Rowan, sorry
odd python
oh, they should be in range then?
rugged marten
hollow blade
Guys can u help me
simple pumice
Belinda
Lucius
Tasi
Rosalina
Shimera
@minecraftshadow
rugged marten
Coins not hitting him up there
odd python
front twin?
glossy pagoda
Does ur ezizh survive in that Position? Mine needs twinslink to last until the end
simple pumice
@hollow blade ^^
hollow blade
@simple pumice thank u lets try this one
rugged marten
Oh yeah, duh, my bad, my ezizh dies after twins, I don't finish timer @glossy pagoda
Twins lasted until 50 seconds, Ezizh died at 30, the rest followed after that
glossy pagoda
What artifact u have on twins? Mine last best with drape
rugged marten
Call on them, got 40 mil more damage with that on instead of drape
hollow blade
@pale kettle i just want to win this match and get the nemora on legendary+ why?
odd python
if youre running defensive items on anyone but ezizh youre just losing out on potential damage so yeah call is the way to go
rugged marten
Twins died at 1:02 with Drape on so call seems to work out better either way
glossy pagoda
Ye on your level its harder to let e twins survive i guess
rugged marten
Just upgraded my celestial boots so that'll hopefully help them a little, I'll try now with manual
hollow blade
I did it so when i got a neq hero i will use it as a food source @pale kettle
odd python
the only other thing i think can make a difference to the rng is support tree providing heals to least hp ally with 10 sec cooldown and shield for first few ults
glossy pagoda
Its also kinda luck dependant weither ice shemira bursts when potions are on cool down or not
rugged marten
Well that was much worse, Twins got frozen right as I clicked on them to ult
Could spend 50 diamonds to retry but don't see too much point in it
odd python
yeah its the rng on heals because rowan potions dont trigger till under 50%, just luck with who takes what damage
atomic forge
i need help lining up my heroes
till now been going for 5 LB but got stuck everywhere :D
winter matrix
Stop making L heroes.
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Brutus
Tasi @atomic forge
atomic forge
i dont know ppl just kept on telling me invest in shemira
then antadra saying she is strong
rugged marten
But there's no point in upgrading a hero to L unless you are able to guarantee copies to Ascended them further @atomic forge
winter matrix
Yes, Invest in shemira but for now use Belinda.
Shemira will be carry after 161+
scenic frost
Pllssssss help me
atomic forge
sure about brutus tho? he is dealing close to no dmg and not even tanking well xD @winter matrix
winter matrix
If Hendrik is tanking better use him.
Brutus is mostly used to tank the 8s of invincibility
atomic forge
ya hendrik is fine with his CC
simple pumice
Why shemira in front and not your brutus @scenic frost
rugged marten
@simple pumice athalias
simple pumice
Aah
glossy pagoda
@scenic frost if u have decent t1 boots and weapon for him, try ferael to dodge tank the upper athalia, and drain energy from the enemies
winter matrix
@gilded jewel
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Lyca/Lucius
Lyca/Fawkes
noble sequoia
heady siren
@noble sequoia Swap the positions of Brutus and Grezhul, formation should look like this :
Shemira
Lyca
Nemora (charm Seirus)
Grezhul
Brutus
It has no faction bonus so it might not work, change Brutus for Talene if it fails several times
inland temple
Stuck last 3 days any ideas?
violet igloo
@inland temple
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lucius/Fawkes
torn lava
Any ideas? They burst so strong
glossy pagoda
Maybe
Eironn
Lucius
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi
zenith tusk
what is the best comp to beat 21-49?
brave oriole
@torn lava, just Rosa have to follow shem..
glossy pagoda
There is no true best comp, since everyone has different heroes, levels and sigs when reaching a specific stage
zenith tusk
Here ia my team
It was sweeping through 21
glossy pagoda
Try
Lyca
Skreg
Rowan
Shemira
Nemora
Arden needs to be charmed
Mehira instead of rowan could work too
brave oriole
@zenith tuskrowan is sure target there, you need a lower mage to. cover him, maybe Rosa?
glossy pagoda
Isnt rowan usually good at tanking her?
zenith tusk
my rosa is stronger due to items, should i invert their items? and would i take nemora or lyca out?
brave oriole
@zenith tuski would try mhm, shem Lucius, Rosa rowan athalia
zenith tusk
ye, rowan tanks really really well, and still distributes hp
brave oriole
yeah, put the better item on rowan to get silvina on rosa
and athalia will easy push arden to death
glossy pagoda
His lucius is quite weak compared to his skreg tho, just try both variants
zenith tusk
athalia still too weak, does barely nothing to arden, not even the cc stands it
brave oriole
put better items on her and some artifact with acc
tender gyro
at what level is Saveas good to start using? I could have him at E maybe E+, but for now my lineup has been Wu Kong, Talene, Solise, Nemora, and Thoran as a tank or I've just began messing with Cecilia. Only at 6-40 in campaign
zenith tusk
she has the crit/atk speed one, and the third in agility items, after fawkes and lyca
brave oriole
@zenith tuskyou need acc to cc arden
so the mom you cc arden, you can build a team and set the best positions for the win
zenith tusk
im trying here, arden is a bitch, cant lie...
glossy pagoda
With lyca (and maybe call) nemora can charm arden fast enough
zenith tusk
i have nemora with the vest artifact (forgot the name in english
woah i was writing and won, lyca and nemora iteration, lets go guys
lyca, skreg, row, shem, nem
glossy pagoda
Looks like call was not even needed, nice
zenith tusk
shem silenced arden, it wasnt even the charm
and then skreg overtanked, nemora healed him again, bought time to shemira dps. it was basically the comp that i was using to every stage on chapter 21, but lyca instead of lucius
thank you for the help, ❤️
light harbor
@tender gyro i think good start for saveas is 101, when he get the 30% damage reduction while regenerating health.
tender gyro
@light harbor does that start at E+? E only goes up to 100 right?
glossy pagoda
Yes
light harbor
Yeah E+
rugged marten
Ideas?
rugged marten
I'll try that a few times, see how it goes, thanks @glossy pagoda
light harbor
@tender gyro wukong solise combo will get you to 7-40 easily tho
loud birch
Help
rugged marten
Not going great @glossy pagoda
glossy pagoda
Who killed the mages?
loud birch
rugged marten
Vedan instakills Nem 9/10 times and Silv kills Tasi @glossy pagoda
rugged marten
Nvm got it now, thanks @glossy pagoda
torn lava
@brave oriole Rosa does follow shem
glossy pagoda
@silent summit
You could try a variety of things, like twins instead of rosa (lessens the impact of roots, and are good enough if they link the frontline befor death). Or rowan in front of lucius and nara opposite of arden+ arhalia opposite of tasi. Maybe fawkes would kidnap someone that matters.
silent summit
Thanks. I’ll give those a shot
marble harbor
Tasi is destroying everything I love
The winning formations thing suggests this team, but she always survives (also why this team specifically? Like why Lorsan?)
gray nest
What team is best for beating 9 on the map?
brave oriole
@marble harbori thoraned this shit too, very op dmg, lorsan kinda connect 2 enemies, when you hit one, you hit both
marble harbor
Okay thank you! I guess I'll just spam rebattle, I can't for the life of me kill them all there's always at least 2 left
Is there any alternate ro Lorsan you think or is his ability pretty vital for it?
rugged marten
@marble harbor
gray nest
9-4 Stuck please help me.
rugged marten
I Thoran'd it before Lorsan was a thing
brave oriole
@marble harboralso you can try this too
gray nest
Anyone?
shadow onyx
Anything I can do without losing lucius/belinda/rosa?
marble harbor
That is definitely my main comp.. I'll give that a shot too!!
brave oriole
@marble harborplay with the artifacts till you get a good fight
shadow onyx
I got these plus like all the rare ones
torpid crag
That a peaks of time or something? Those power levels lol
shadow onyx
Ye
torpid crag
Oh it's the one with the portals lol.
heady siren
@shadow onyx Most definitely
Athalia
Lucius
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora (charm Ferael)
Icebringer and Firebringer will make it's magic happen.
If you wish to change your artifacts around let me know! ^^
torpid crag
Yeah gl, I just cleared enough of that one to unlock the next two and went back later 
I'm a peaks of time noob
mossy galleon
Last stage chapter 7.. Any help?
shadow onyx
@heady siren tried it
The problem is silvina attacks nemora and 3 shots her
gray nest
I feel you
light harbor
Arden
Lucius
Rowan
Wukong
Cecilia
@mossy galleon
mossy galleon
@light harbor tried that and didn't work ☹️
heady siren
@shadow onyx Understandable!
Then maybe try to raise Nemora's defense* rating. do you possess Dura's drape? If yes see if it makes any kind of difference.
If not, then try;
Athalia
Nara
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora
light harbor
@mossy galleon I just finish ch 7 10mins ago
heady siren
@mossy galleon Maybe with the right RNG you will get it! 
light harbor
@mossy galleon Retrying for around 50 times lol until RNG decide to allow me pass it
mossy galleon
Ahaa thanks @light harbor @heady siren ill pray to rng then
heady siren
@shadow onyx Notice, I edited my message above. ^^
shadow onyx
Will try
Gave her my best equipment and duras drape
cedar ember
Very cool
heady siren
If Silvina still chases her, remove another mage in your formation's gear so their defense rating will make a proper target for Silvina.
light harbor
@mossy galleon Solise and wukong 100 should be enough to pass that stage, but its still RNG thing. i won last round because my tasi stayed alive to cancel belinda ult
past light
glossy pagoda
Maybe
Tasi
Ferael
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Dunno if frontline fera without rowan works tho
torpid crag
- Grezul 2. Tasi 3. Lyca 4. Gwyneth 5. Nemora, might be not enough power though, wilders look pretty rough lol as well as lb. Pretty far off meta wp
- Shemira 2. Grezul 3. Rosaline 4. Nemora 5. Ferael
- Rosaline 2. Belinda 3. Ferael 4. Rowan 5. Tasi
- Grezul 2. Belinda 3. Ferael 4. Rowan 5. Twins
That's all I can think of
violet igloo
@torpid crag when you put 12345 is 12 front line and 345 backline ? I suppose so
but it's better to present it like this if you can, it's easier to read 
Hero
Hero
Hero
Hero
Hero
torpid crag
I'm not gonna do that ever. I'll just not help if that's a rule
winter matrix
@violet igloo ye generaly when people say 12345 order its 1 2 frontline (with 1 being the top one) and 345 being backline (with 4 being middle)
So
3
1
4
2
5
brave wagon
heady siren
Hey there ! @brave wagon
Have you tried switching your frontline around? perhaps try something around the lines of;
Lucius
Rosaline
Rowan
Brutus
Shemira
so then Lucius will be able to knock them down prior to raising his shield up and gaining enough energy to ult?~
gray nest
How can I beat 9-8
scenic frost
anyone have their F300 team?
heady siren
@brave wagon Mhm! if you're confident he will survive ^^
heady siren
@gray nest Have you tried this formation out? :
Belinda
Wukong
Niru
Hogan
Saveas
@scenic frost I'll see if I can find mine ^^
scenic frost
ok tnx
gray nest
@heady siren Which ones should I level up the most I can?
heady siren
For now focus on Belinda ^^
@scenic frost Unfortunately I don't have the image saved but I remember a Thoran with a signature item was my key to victory on that stage, due to faction advantage and immunity to dying. ^^
inland temple
I was stucked at chapter 14 3 days somehow i won it and then i walked true chapter 15 in first atempted wtf?
gray nest
@heady siren So I should keep them at level 100 and use the exp I’d normally use to make another hero 120 but instead on Belinda?
heady siren
@gray nest While you're still fighting Maulers**, level 140-141 is where Saveas will dethrone Belinda as your main DPS carry 🙂
gray nest
I would love to do that but, I need one more r Saveas and another E Golus. Lol
Any other character I could try using for a carry?
lime nova
Any suggestions for formation for 26-46?
heady siren
@lime nova Seems tough! but maybe...;
Fawkes
Lucius
Rosaline (If Rosaline follows Lucius)
Arthur
Rowan
inland temple
Anyone got an idea?
torpid crag
- Tasi 2. Arthur 3. Rosaline 4. Rowan 5. Belinda @lime nova can possibly swap Rosa and Belinda
gray nest
@heady siren The lineup doesn't seem to work.
rugged marten
@gray nest try to Thoran it
gray nest
Only if I had him.
What makes Thoran able to do Stages normally you couldn't.
I know he has a res.
harsh crown
Anyone has any idea how I can come past that? I am stuck for 3 days already, feels so bad
heady siren
@gray nest Keep levelling your Belinda and you will be able to plow through it and the next couple of levels. ^^
For now, you can try anything that your guts feels like it could work with a little bit of push. 🙂
@harsh crown Have you tried :
Belinda
Brutus
Arden (root Khasos)
Lyca (you dont really need her to survive)
Saveas
gray nest
Cool, cool, cool!
empty ember
Should I lvl up one character to lvl 101 first then follow up with others or lvl all of them? also any tips on which lineup is best with the characters I have
still oar
Overlevel one @empty ember
harsh crown
great, after a couple of tries that actually did it for me 😄 ty @heady siren
empty ember
@still oar which one?
still oar
Your carry shemira.
The general order is carry>tank>support
heady siren
@harsh crown Welcome ! Best of luck further on~ 
empty ember
Okii thanks
glass path
Hey guys I just started playing a few days ago and still have no idea how to set up lineup or what hero’s are best to level up
winter matrix
Overlevel your Belinda.
Then you can do
Belinda
Estrilda
Tasi
Hogan
Nemora @glass path
glass path
@winter matrix thank you!
@winter matrix Changed it around and got past a stage I’ve been stuck on forever
boreal valley
I recently got Lyra and I’m not sure if I want to include her in my squad. I’m currently stuck at this level what should I do?
unborn mason
@zinc stump can i ask you about your opinion?
would prefer for challenger to run:
- shemira, ezizh, mehira, twins, talene
- estrilda, ezizh, mehira, twins, talene
rowan is already in use in lb comp
my third team will be wilder comp + safiya
zinc stump
@unborn mason unless you have Saf+30 that's a wasted slot imo. Youd be better having shem there
unborn mason
@zinc stump and when i have saf+30. can i then put shemira to my hyp/cele comp?
atm i run full wilder till i have a saf+30
zinc stump
@unborn mason there are other better options if you're going to whale it imo
unborn mason
@zinc stump what hero would you put into my second team: hypo/cele comp?
for arena i do run rowan, ezizh, twins, talene, mehira once they become mythic
boreal valley
Should I reset my Shemira and put Estrilda in my squad? I posted a picture a few messages ago
zinc stump
@unborn mason it's much better to focus on what you have not what you want to have. That will get you a lot further in this game
violet igloo
@winter matrix @torpid crag it's not a rule, it's just less clear for players, especially new players, who are asking for help and that are unfamiliar with many aspects of the game. But you can do it in whatever order you wish
unborn mason
@zinc stump i am just thinking what will help me in the long run: 2 years in the future, what teams would i like to see in my challenger
i dont want to invest in the wrong heroes an regret it later if there are better options
zinc stump
@boreal valley only level 5 heros. Early game focus only 5 L tier heros and put the others in resonance slots. You want it to look something like this.
boreal valley
@zinc stump Yeah I just have other characters at level 10 because I didn’t want to waste my gem resetting yet. I don’t have a tank so I’m not sure who to put frontline that’s my main problem
@zinc stump thank you so much bro I got past the stage
eager jay
Any suggestions for necropolis 160?
placid flower
Nara the eironn
eager jay
@placid flower I've been trying that. I either get wrecked pretty much immediately or I time out with shem, grezh, thoran still alive
pale kettle
Nara to Arden, grezhul to brutus.shemira and nemora with tasi, have you tried that??
languid ivy
Im stuck on this lvl any tips to beat it ?
wintry raven
@pale kettle yeah
pale kettle
Who does fawkes coffin? Brutus??
Shemira isn’t that good until 161, so try resetting her and leveling Belinda @languid ivy
graceful wind
I'm stuck... Can someone help me? And Just some tips to help me out on this acc
mighty veldt
@eager jay you probably just have to swap around your relics using Shem that high in gb tower requires eye/call a lot especially considering your ferael isn’t the highest sig working at a considerable handicap but nara grabbing eironn should work eventually especially at your level
wintry raven
@pale kettle fawkes coffins khasos
languid ivy
@pale kettle should i put her front line ?
pale kettle
@languid ivy if tasi has teleport I’d put tasi in front, but that’s just me, that’s your call.
@wintry raven try nara to Arden again, Belinda to 5. Rosaline to 2, Try Lucius to water boy. And then finally a fareal in the middle 3
That’s the best I personally can come up with someone might be able to do better
sturdy thicket
Need Help please
pale kettle
@sturdy thicket who would rosaline follow? If you swapped Lucius out out of curiosity
sturdy thicket
Shemira @pale kettle
pale kettle
Swap sav with rosaline and see how that works, it might it might not
languid ivy
@pale kettle i lost again saveas is killing me he has high dps
pale kettle
@languid ivy the only other thing I see working is replacing the big mauler boy with hogan and have Belinda front line with hogan taking sav if that doesn’t work try Belinda in front of sav and hope for ult
graceful wind
What to use?
sturdy thicket
@pale kettle IT worked to svap sav with tasi
pale kettle
@sturdy thicket alright, hopefully I helped a little bit sorry :(
sturdy thicket
Ofcourse you did! Thank you very much that you took your time to Check my stuff @pale kettle
pale kettle
@sturdy thicket also try putting Lucius frontline instead of money boy
sturdy thicket
@pale kettle Without you, i wouldve never thought about replacing saveas
earnest mason
@mossy galleon you need more DPS! Right now your levels are a bit too spread out as well. You mainly want to have your heroes at 61,81, or 101 if you have the Dust for it. This way you prioritize the extra boost you get from every 20 levels. Also, since you’re lacking DPS I’d recommend Silvina for the moment
signal citrus
is tree man good im using elite+ belinda, elite+ mirael, elite rowan, elite hendriks, and elite+ estrilda
graceful hearth
I found great success with Ulmus and Hendrik early game. However, everyone has different experiences and you sound pretty new. Try out team compositions that you like!
flat gyro
Burning brute, wat u gonna use? My lineup barely gets me to bronze 4 and I can't figure out why
graceful hearth
What lineup do you use? I used Shem and Rowan up front, Baden, Rosa and the Twins in the back. It’s how I managed to get 100% for his event
@flat gyro
flat gyro
I use Rosa Belinda front. Shem Rowan and Nara back
Try to draw the belimda into the shell with naras pull.
My twins die instantly.
graceful hearth
Really? Mine didn’t. They’re also E+ or whatever. My only Celestial above that is Athalia
flat gyro
Mine are only epic so that might be why
graceful hearth
Could just be scaling. Not really sure
flat gyro
Could be. I made a big mistake making Shem 5*. Made everything a lot harder
graceful hearth
Really? Mine is at one star and has managed to drag my ass from chapter 13 to where I am now. Maybe you just didn’t give the Twins good gear? I gave them grace generally
flat gyro
I’ll throw them back in. Thanks 🙂
graceful hearth
Yep. Good luck!
flat gyro
Spanks!
graceful hearth
God help me. And I thought Ulmus was bad... any ideas? I have an E+ Baden and L+ Arden too
jovial gate
@graceful hearth have you tried shem front with Rowan rosaline Lucius and fawkes? Or include twins? I’m not far but it’s a great team comp with faction bonus
Speaking of... trying to clear 11 with my alt that just started using Shem carry
graceful hearth
. . . @jovial gate that worked
tribal inlet
Any recommendations for beating two Lucius, two Estrilda, and Thane using only the orange faction?
green arch
Hard stuck any ideas???
worthy bane
@tribal inlet Try to get a strong Safiya ult would be my call, Skraith tends to help with that
@green arch can you adjust gear to get Rowan to take the Silvinia attack?
jovial gate
@graceful hearth glad to hear it! Can anyone scroll up and help me lol
worthy bane
@jovial gate That's a tough one lol, Only thing I can think of is Nemora charm on Morvus maybe. It's rough
green arch
Would i have to lower bis gear?
jovial gate
Yeah I might need to wait for a friend 141 Lucius
worthy bane
Yes, Silvinia attacks the weakest mage, so have her attack Rowan @green arch
worthy bane
Maybe swap Brutus out for that Talene?
green arch
Man everything just gets killed.
These are two winning formations. But i dont have fawkes or twins... anythinf i can do?
tawdry ibex
My team getting poof’d any idea?
green arch
Can you drop everything to 120 and max out shemira. Should be easy
tawdry ibex
Shem is already max at L beside gears
green arch
Oh i see its l not l+. Probably need some cc might help? Arden or fawks? Probably cut belinda for it.
tawdry ibex
I tried but they keep dying, usually saveas is the last one standing
tranquil dune
Hi! Today's my seventh day playing this game, and I need some help on my lineup. My current lineup is Lucius, Antandra, Athalia, Shemira, and Wu Kong. Antandra, Wu Kong, and Shemira are epic+, and the rest are epic. Do you think I should keep grinding like this, or do i need some changes? I'm also getting an epic+ Belinda later today. Should I sub her in instead of Wu Kong?
pale kettle
What artifact on Thoran ?
pale kettle
spare girder
@pale kettle you want to Thoran cheese it?
pale kettle
I want to win, but i retry and retry and cant
spare girder
@green arch use your Rowan in place of Arden as Silvina bait and Fawkes in place of Tasi
pale kettle
My friends won with this lineup
green arch
@spare girder unfortunately not a single fawkea was pulled lol. And i pulled enough lb to ascend 5 of them
spare girder
@pale kettle try Blade on Thoran if it doesn't work then try call
clear spade
Need help, stuck in lab. If one of them dies halfway i’m screwed. I think I don’t have enough damage or sustain.
spare girder
@green arch okay try Shem, Lucius, Rowan, Nara, Lyca
@clear spade drop fawkes and use your Ezizh
green arch
Sounds good will give it a shot.
pale kettle
He ults everytime and no problem for that i have blade on him but he lacks dmg
spare girder
@pale kettle you know in the SS you didn't place exactly like your friend did now that I look at it.
pale kettle
Yea because if rowan behind thoran he'll live for too long and seirus will come behind thoran
I feel like my heroes levels are to high, like, they live for too long
spare girder
Feels like he linked Seirus and Ira so when Thoran ults the damage Ira also takes will help whittle Seirus down because he's very tanky. Also Rowan's ult can ramp up Thoran's damage. Because it looks like Thoran will taint Nemora.
spare girder
In that 3 spot? He put Lorsan behind Estrilda.
pale kettle
In middle back position, always, idk why
Killing seirus isnt really problem ; and that allows to kill nemora which is good so no heal
mighty veldt
You don’t have to thoran cheese you’re super overleveled for chapter 24 no reason to give yourself a headache when you can just use a normal comp
pale kettle
@mighty veldt normal comp doesnt work im stuck here since 3 weeks now
Like with nemora charming seirus and all that stuff, doesnt works
mighty veldt
Take your Lucius up to M then collect free stage wins your tank options are limited like gorvo is a great tank but doesn’t synergize well with your main dps core
Or better yet just use thoran as a regular tank instead of trying to cheese
Thoran Shem Rosa Rowan and Fawkes probably get that stage done
green arch
@spare girder
spare girder
@green arch Nara in middle backrow to CC Ferael. I think your Ascended Rowan can tank Silvina no problem.
mighty veldt
My Shem seems to disagree with you 🤔
pale kettle
Isabella woulda do better
green arch
Im getting shemiras ult off twice but theyre living by over half
pale kettle
I have a lv268 5⭐ shemira i think she is less good than a 2 star isabella
spare girder
@green arch how does your gear on Shem look?
green arch
mighty veldt
@green arch why not use Rosa instead of nara ?
green arch
I can.
mighty veldt
Do that and put call on Rowan or Lucius normally Rowan against Silvina stages and 90% of stages in general should beat it relatively easily pretty straightforward may have to retry a few times for fera rng want to make sure your priority heroes don’t get feared
clear spade
@spare girder I tried it but nvm, thanks anyway. I didn’t notice the time and I didn’t do enough damage 😅
spare girder
@clear spade oh schuks...! I would've advised you to drop Nemora but since you complained about your team surviving I just focused on that. Next time mate
green arch
@mighty veldt ok will try
pale kettle
I'll just wait until i have higher level. For my part
mild breach
so what's the best line-up per faction? I'm planning to make faction formations to take advantage of the faction bonuses
clear spade
@spare girder yah ezizh died tho. It would be easier if I had talene. Thanks again! 😄
green arch
Fuking mate nothings working.
Yooo shemira hit ult 3 times lucius hit ult 3 times rowan 1 or 2.....
I fukin lost ...
rugged marten
Ideas on a comp thag won't lose a hero in the first 10 seconds?
spare girder
Anyone got any ideas? Or knows how to beat this?
heady siren
@spare girder
Try this! :
Shemira
Tasi (she can dodge Estrilda's swing)
Nemora (charm Arden if possible, its okay if he roots for the first time)
Kaz
Lyca
spare girder
@heady siren what'll you suggest gear priority should be because I've only got two sets of T1 mage gear. I'm waiting for decent factions before I use my stone atm.
So Tasi and Shem best gear and Nemora has the rest? Call on Tasi too yeah?
heady siren
Call = Tasi
Eye = Nemora (faster casting speed if she crits)
Blade = Shemira
Grace = Kaz (increasing dodge ability and overall health)
Drape = Lyca
spare girder
Okay
Crazy thing here is... Tasi gets one shot
She's also not half bad but... Estrilda and Lyca stomp her. If I switch with Kaz then Arden stomps her.
heady siren
@spare girder Oh, that's because of her signature item, the higher it is, the more defense rating it brings, unlike most other signature items, it increases 3 attributes.
It's going to be really RNG based!
Try this :
Shemira
Kaz
Nemora (charm Arden)
Lyca
Tasi
I edited the formation. My bad ^^` ^
torpid crag
@spare girder did I try this earlier or did someone else get stuck on 24-15? Lol
- Belinda 2. Lyca 3. Fawkes 4. Rowan 5.twins/nemora
Maybe Rosaline instead of lyca
spare girder
@heady siren thanks I played around alot but your formation gave me the idea I needed to beat it! @torpid crag thank you as well!
heady siren
Ah! I wasn't sure if you wanted to use mercenaries so I refrained from offering any use of them, congratulations!~ best of luck further on! @spare girder
torpid crag
Ah shame you used a Merc lol
Oh well. Gj though. Guess we're already past half way for Merc uses
spare girder
I needed that Khasos cause in the end it came down to the Life leech he gave Kaz
pale kettle
If anyone needs 24-32 lineup
spare girder
I'm getting there but sucks I don't have any of those heroes
torpid crag
Probably because you're still using Kaz as a primary damage dealer, guess it's fine but she's better where you need mixed damage lineups aka grezul comps. She is good against lb comps too too I think it was forcing it using against an Arden lineup though
That 24-32 is pretty off meta lol
It's like me posting my talene wins
spare girder
Kaz for life been using her since chap 3 or so, I even fed L+ Lyca to her once. 
But yeah when I meet walls the walls are HUGE!
torpid crag
Lol. I know I used a Kaz from ch 5
There's a few ways to play around her, but man when I switched to Belinda it was some good stuff. But hey first half of ch 26 will be real easy for you when you get there. It's like Kaz heaven
gilded jewel
Ideas? 2 levels from chapter completion
torpid crag
Have enough dust for that last 141? Brutus 141 would be game changing lol
undone venture
help
torpid crag
Well, Mauler levels are typically Arden levels. So you need to fit him somewhere
gilded jewel
Also belinda rosa across from brutus is never smart
torpid crag
@gilded jewel 1. Shemira 2. Estrilda 3. Fawkes 4. Rowan 5. Arden
heady siren
@undone venture
Fawkes
Hogan
Belinda
Rosaline
Wukong
Should be enough if you manage to get wukong's ult to work!
If it doesn't work, mind answering these questions for me? :
- How many Dura's artifacts do you have?
- Who does Fawkes take into his coffin?
- Who survives better against Silvina? Rosaline or Rowan?
torpid crag
Arden instead of lyca
kindred lynx
dont have an arder
and i think i need lyca to counter the other lyca since the other team will just their specials off quicker
heady siren
Could you share your hero roster page? @kindred lynx 🙂
pale kettle
I'm currently walled at this.
kindred lynx
kindred lynx
everything below that for me is just dupes/fodder
torpid crag
Rip account
mild breach
anyone know what's the best line-up per faction? I'm planning to make faction formations to take advantage of the faction bonuses
kindred lynx
yeah im only like lvl 110
everyone has way more cards than me since they are 30-50 levels above me
pale kettle
Nevermind finally broke 21-06
torpid crag
Darn was still thinking 
@median slate nemora instead of lyca, and in Arden's position. Should probably do it
median slate
Hmm without lyca, Arden can't CC and he and tasi get 1-shot :(
pale kettle
🔫
torpid crag
I'm only here to make you get wrecked
Who is dura call on if not arden? Don't tell me you put it on shemira 
median slate
It's on Arden right now, Shemira has blade
torpid crag
So you're saying Arden gets no roots, and ogi gets a hit as well as a throw in
Well you can replace Brutus for lyca lel
That should do it right? And you get 4 faction bonus. Delicious
@pale kettle shemira instead of thoran? And swap grezul to top
Some spicy zero healer comps. Just put in more damage 
median slate
Still getting rekt lol. Arden gets interuppted by the dmg. When I try lyca, ppl still die. Gonna afk for a day and get more exp. Ty for trying to help tho! I've seen similar comps with lower lvl beat this stage so idk why team is getting stuck. Do enemies scale if you've beaten a few stages in a row?
median slate
Lol once the ogi firsts hit the ground tasi and Arden die 💀
kindred lynx
as weird as this will sound attempt putting lyca in front, at ur stage i dont think she is that great of a damage dealer but she can avert damage and keep her haste going after she dies
torpid crag
Well, that obviously needs a position change if the nemora gets hit in that position. Not really looking to play the game for you
still ivy
Any ideas for a formation?
median slate
Ya ik, I've been shuffling a lot. Think just not enough dmg right now and will need to afk. Ty again for the help
full finch
torpid crag
Welp I'm gonna recommend Arden here too like I did almost everyone else haha
median slate
Ended up going 3 light and got past in case anyone else stuck on 16-39. The extra bit of dmg from Belinda ult helped, ty everyone!
heady siren
@wintry ether Yes! Try this out:
Arden
Shemira
Mehira
Lyca
Tasi
Make sure Mehira will be targetted by Silvina!-
Artifacts :
Dura's Grace - Lyca
Dura's Call - Shemira
Dura's Eye - Arden (crits = faster casting speed) or Chalice of Vitality if you own it!-
Dura's Drape - Tasi
wintry ether
rip silvina just 1 shots every single character before they can do anything
@heady siren any other ideas? thanks for the help btw
heady siren
Perhaps swapping Shemira's position with Estrilda would help?
Arden
Estrilda (she will prevent Silvina from attacking fully thaks to her opening attack)
Shemiea
Lyca
Nemora (charm Grezhul, he might would shield one of your allies.)
wintry ether
think i gotta just farm up cuz even with estrilda silvina just charges before estrilda can hit her
heady siren
@wintry ether Final attempt!
Tasi (Silvina's target)
Arden (Dura's eye)
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora (charm Grezhul)
Before relying on the absolute solution which is farming ^^
If you have a gut feeling that something could work better feel free to change anything in the formation! 🙂
wintry ether
i got kinda close with
Shem
---Skreg
Rowan
---Lucius
Bel
Ill try Tasi Arden Lyca Shen Nem
silvina targets Arden...
heady siren
@wintry raven Perhaps try;
Grezhul
Kaz
Nara
Tasi
Shemira
If you wish for an artifact suggestion, feel free to mention me. 🙂
wintry raven
@heady siren artifact suggestion plz
heady siren
@wintry ether Have you changed the gears around? Try drape on Arden and remove some gears on Tasi if necessary!
wintry ether
so whats happening is like a single fluid motion silvina is charging thru arden and tasi n killing both before a single hit goes off lol. Think my wilders are just too weak
heady siren
@wintry raven
Dura's Call - Tasi
Dura's Grace - Kaz
Dura's Drape - Nara
Dura's Blade - Shemira
Dura's Chalice of Vitality - Grezhul
wintry ether
I think if I can level up Rowan some more I will clear it for sure. Either that or I will merc it with a better shem/lucius
heady siren
I have a feeling that Estrilda would help you. I recall placing Estrilda behind Silvina's target and she would hit her first, denying her the energy gain from killing so early. Best of luck!~ @wintry ether
wintry ether
thanks!!
wintry raven
@heady siren didn't work
heady siren
Swap the positions of Nara and Shemira @wintry raven Try multiple times
graceful wind
Can someone help me?
mossy galleon
Still lost with those pulls.. Can't make a decent line up.. Meh
Oh I got shemira too
tranquil dune
Hi! Today's my seventh day playing this game, and I need some help on my lineup. My current lineup is Lucius, Antandra, Athalia, Shemira, and Wu Kong. Antandra, Wu Kong, and Shemira are epic+, and the rest are epic. Do you think I should keep grinding like this, or do i need some changes? I'm also getting an epic+ Belinda later today. Should I sub her in instead of Wu Kong?
ashen mantle
@tranquil dune what are ur other heroes :) "a pic would help"
tranquil dune
ashen mantle
@mossy galleon @tranquil dune have u read the pinned messages in this channel and #classic-questions ? It gives helpful advice/info about heroes and making lineups
mossy galleon
Latest pic.. I'm lost af.. Can't make a line up at all.. Chapter 8
@ashen mantle I did.. Yet nth works for me
Been told I lack dps.. My shemira still at elite .. I believe that's true.. Thought wukong and cecilia wud carry me but meh
ashen mantle
@mossy galleon try running, and overlevel sevaes :)
Saveas
Wukong
Lyca
Lucius
Cecilia
"not sure how good cecilia is she in early game, but since she is L might as well use her"
mossy galleon
@ashen mantle instead of who?
So.. I drop shemira for nw and go for that comp?
I'll try.. Thanks @ashen mantle
ashen mantle
@mossy galleon shemira isnt that great before her power spike at 161
@mossy galleon if cecilia doesnt work that great swap her for rowan or arden when he is at least lvl 81
mossy galleon
@ashen mantle thanks I'll try that
ashen mantle
@mossy galleon also try not to make A tier heroes L if you dont have that extra E+ copie for L+, otherwhise it can be stuck at L for #? amount of time
violet igloo
if you had kept your graveborn fodder and planned ahead, instead of using it on grezhul and ferael and izold, you could have put your Shemira to Mythic, maybe even M+ and you might be able to finish this level. Shemira is much stronger than Belinda in mid game, but you can have fun with any hero of course.
I would do :
Nemora
Lucius
Lyca
Belinda
Tasi
kindred lynx
rip my team got decimated in 9 seconds
ill probably just wait and farm levels and then use my dust to get bellinda to 220
since currently i have to wait until 180 on everything, so until then id presume im just stuck for now
violet igloo
Yes, seems like you have no choice. I would keep concentrating on wilders, and also use all your fodder only on Shemira, nothing else
Also Rowan Elite in your comp won't be much use
And maybe you might be able to get Shemira ascended if you buy her in lab shop. Don't know if it's worth buying her, if you wanted to play her.
kindred lynx
hm, its seems a bit late to start heavily investing in shemeira, bc after a couple of chapters her viability will only be in things like realm and wrizz
but im still contemplating on what to do
violet igloo
Shemira starts to wear off at about chap 24, chap 25 max
ideally you'd want by then to have a Ferael, a strong wilder team and a strong LB team (Rowan, Lucius,Rosa, Belinda only useful in LB faction tower or certain specific campaign stages).
Nara also is a great addition
kindred lynx
yeah i was intrested in focusing more on ferael as it would help me more in the long run
violet igloo
I'm looking at your hero box, try and avoid making heroes to L, you're just wasting fodder that could be used otherwise in your top 5 heroes
kindred lynx
yeah made some dumb mistakes up till chap 15
violet igloo
like many many players, no need to worry : )
tall forge
Stuck here for over a week, any tips?
pale kettle
@violet igloo some of us are still making dumb decisions 
violet igloo
we all do, even in later chapters ! 😉
ashen mantle
gotta hate it when ur stuck for months xD
violet igloo
well this game is called AFK for a reason
pastel sail
Which one is the best comp? I Play atm talene,lucius,Brutus,rosaline and saveas
For pve
violet igloo
@pastel sail I would recommend you read the quick start guide pinned in #classic-questions you have made too many Legendary heroes, they are stuck in L. Now that you can get heroes past lvl 160, you need to drop saveas and the best DPS you can get is Shemira, I would recommend her.
Now keep your fodder only for your main heroes. I would recommend ascending Shemira to Mythic ASAP and doing the classic comp :
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
pale wigeon
proud grove
Beat team I can build? Can find other mercenary if needed
pale wigeon
Where everyone stand?
pale kettle
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline
Brutus
Lucius
I think
pale wigeon
They are literally destroy me
graceful wind
@violet igloo can you help me on this one? I keep getting destroyed
violet igloo
@graceful wind have you tried reseting Belinda to level 1 and puting Shemira level 160 ?
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus/Belinda
Tasi
Belinda will act as a tank if you put her instead of Brutus, she might have more HP than brutus.
graceful wind
I have tried bringing shemira to 160 but is miss the extra recovery on the ult
umbral lodge
Isabella or Thoran to E? Any thoughts?
graceful wind
@violet igloo
bitter bramble
violet igloo
@graceful wind you need to get your Shemira to Mythic and reset Belinda, put all levels in Shemira
graceful wind
bitter bramble
@violet igloo
graceful wind
@violet igloo hmmm not even close
violet igloo
yes thats why I said you need her mythic
@bitter bramble je t'ai répondu dans le canal FR
light harbor
Any idea how it should work for campaign progress? Is it good all out on saveas without tank like lucius or brutus? Or even all out (120 shemira)?
heady siren
@light harbor I'm not exactly sure if I know what you're asking-- could you please rephrase? 🙂
subtle talon
Hey, bist combo for him? 🙂 ty
light harbor
@pale kettle hello kitteh
@heady siren So my formation for campaign (PvE) is
Solise
Tasi
Rowan
Wukong
Arden
But, i feel its really lack of damage. So with the all heroes i have in the picture before. Should i use saveas as my main carry and all out on exp for him (level 120) or even shemira as main carry. The thing is i dont have a good tanker (Lucius or brutus) to cover "All-out carry like saveas or shemira" atm
heady siren
@light harbor
Ohhh! Saveas would be a good choice yes, Saveas is a very reliable carry at levels 120, 121 and above 🙂 him alone will be enough for you to get to chapter 15!-
I would swap the exp of Solise for Saveas because she is Elite and can not go above level 100 on her own, you can put her in Crystal and she will get higher in time!, depending on your Crystal level of course.
mighty veldt
I’d run Full lb @pale kettle with Lucius and Belinda frontline Rosa Rowan Fawkes back line
pale kettle
Nope that didn't work. My other heroes are severely underpowered.
alpine ice
need help
mighty veldt
That’s a bit precarious Belinda is great but she needs support since she lacks her on sustain you can try your same comp with Rowan instead of Mehira and Rosaline instead of Estrilda
Should keep Belinda up long enough to double ult and should clean house
heady siren
@pale kettle Hello!-
Give this a shot;
Nara
Lucius
Mehira
Brutus
Nemora (charm Ferael)
Try to make this RNG happen :
Ferael terrorizes Niru, Isabella, and Shemira (him terrorizing himself is also good though!)
Lucius gets his ultimate shield off early.
Mehira casts her ultimate move at all of the enemies.
As for artifacts, put:
Dura's Eye = Nemora
Dura's Call = Mehira
Dura's Grace = Nara
Dura's Chalice of Vitality = Brutus
Dura's Drape = Lucius
alpine ice
here
please help, Athalia kills one, and then the others die, and the dang silvina kills one, then Lucius
winter matrix
Send an ss of your heroes
pale kettle
This unfortunately doesn't work. Thanks. I'll have to wait till I can borrow mercenary. And wait until I can ascend more heroes.
heady siren
Best of luck! 
potent juniper
Hi I've been stuck on this stage (29-43) for almost half a day now and I can't find a way to beat it. Any help appreciated :)
scenic frost
anyone have their tower of light 160 team?
inland temple
Are the trinkets problem ? I cant win people under my lvl do it on replays
pale kettle
Instead of overspecializing on Shemira, try levelling Belinda, and see if that will work.
inland temple
But everyone is pushing with shem this lvl like everyone on the replay
pale kettle
@potent juniper cheese it
violet igloo
@inland temple try putting Rowan frontline instead of backline. Does he die before he cast his ult ?
inland temple
insta death
subtle talon
Can someone help me out what combo I should use? Ty 🙂
inland temple
frontline i realy dont know , like supose its rng because people with the same lineup lower lvl and gear make it
violet igloo
well, keep openeing wilder packs. You need to get tasi and lyca ascended, they are OP in PVE and PVP
inland temple
ye i know but realy want lucious 😦
west meadow
What should I do next? Just get my team to 160? I really want to ascend someone to Mythic.
glossy pagoda
U should have built more fodder heroes to L+ for that, but well u can atleast start doing so now
ancient glade
i need heeeeeeelp please, what heroes should I be using and what formations too,I'm at ch 6 rn, i also need some advice on how to just be better and get heroes or gear
shell heron
Anyone got lineup for this
ancient glade
please helppp
violet igloo
@ancient glade have you read the quick guide pinned in this channel ? if you have 3 min it'll help a lot
ancient glade
yeah I'll read that
gray nest
What should I use on Wrizz?
heady siren
@ancient glade Hello!
You are at a very early stage of the game to ask for specific focuses, the best I can advice you is to monitor your resources management like so;
Firstly focus on your DPS heroes, such as Eironn, Wukong, Mirael.
Later then your frontline tanks - Lucius, at this case.
And lastly, Nemora, classified under Supports. Hope this helps! 🙂
@shell heron Mayhaps try replacing Rowan for Nemora? Charm Seirus and his crowd control and assault will focus on Arden as your Athalia is denying Arden's attacks-
ancient glade
what about hero farming or gear farming? I'll try to use a formation that fits too @heady siren
violet igloo
Don't upgrade your gear yet, you will drop gear all the time that is better
heady siren
@ancient glade You get those by AFKing and wise purchase decisions ^^ Just make sure you don't buy gear under the tier "Mythic"!
ancient glade
yeah but i haven't found even 1 mythic item lol not even in the store
violet igloo
@ancient glade for a comp, you need to use Mirael as your main DPS. Put her level 80 and other heroes level 50
Nemora
Lucius
Mirael
Gorvo
Wukong
is a good line up
@ancient glade you'll unlock mythic item from chap 15
it's chapter 12 actually
heady siren
@gray nest Hey hey friend! How have you been? 
I would propose this formation;
Belinda
Wukong (Dura's Eye)
Solise
Saveas
Raine
I'm not sure if Solise's summon attacks Wrizz but if they can and tank his damage its an amazing advantage you will have over Wrizz!~
ancient glade
@violet igloo oh really, i didnt think that mirael would've been good at all
subtle talon
Hey, what formation should I use? Ty
violet igloo
@ancient glade she's OP until level 160. Then you need to replace her with Shemira if you want the best team
ancient glade
I'll try that, thankkkkksss, jow i need a clan tho
violet igloo
@ancient glade go to #guilds you'll fins guild posts
and then you'll be all set up 🙂
ancient glade
okkk
tiny hamlet
Hi folks, started this game a few days ago and enjoying it alot. I was looking for help if possible. I have these, is there any better comp that I can make other than the 5 I am currently using? Is there anyone that can help guide me? Thanks a million
heady siren
@subtle talon Since the boss is dimensional you can choose any faction available, he will have no faction advantage over you and vise versa.
I would propose;
Shemira
Rosaline
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
violet igloo
Hello @tiny hamlet have you read the quick guide pinned in #classic-questions ? if you have 3 min it'll help you a lot
tiny hamlet
Didn't see the pin, thank you I'll go check!
ancient glade
@violet igloo i got everyone to lvl 50 except mirael, I'm against level 70+ enemies will it still work?
violet igloo
yes, you actually need that your DPS be higher level than ennemy, Mirael will melt them
ancient glade
k I'll tryy
subtle talon
@heady siren ty vm. Didn’t know that with faction oO
heady siren
For future reference~ 
@subtle talon
pastel sail
@violet igloo i read it now, i need to sacrifase kelthur to have shemira mythic . I just wait then
violet igloo
@pastel sail don't sacrifice Kelthur
pastel sail
I will Not no worries 🤣
I will never sacrifice an ascendent hero again in the beginning i lost belinda and safiya because i had no clue
violet igloo
pale kettle
Help plz
heady siren
@pale kettle Should you try~..:
Shemira
Gorvo
Lyca
Thoran
Tasi
I have a feeling that if Gorvo will interrupt both Ira and Niru, you will be fine~
Make sue to swap the gears, if you'd like an advice on artifacts do mention me again! 🙂
heady siren
Then instead swap the frontlines Thoran and Gorvo's positions, let Thoran take Niru and Ira's assault and use it against Lyca I presume- ^^ @pale kettle
pale kettle
😊 😊 🥰 🥰
gray nest
@heady siren I’m doing good, just got done with a reroll. I got lucky with my rolls. Would you like to see the account? Now that I’m thinking about it I do need to make the correct line up for it lol.
heady siren
My DMs are open for lineup help purposes, by all means 🙂
gray nest
Okay, I’ll dm you then.
clever patio
Please just dm me the message how to defeat it!
torpid crag
Good Lord a thoran carry. Can only thoran cheese it 
verbal quarry
Who do I ascend
glossy pagoda
None yet
verbal quarry
None of them?
shadow onyx
I am once again asking for your lineup support
heady siren
@shadow onyx Try this out!
Tasi
Kaz
Belinda
Lyca
Nemora
It might not work because of the ascension disadvantage- But if your wilders will be able to fight them back, by charming, healing and staying alive against all odds you could pass it!
Make sure Tasi gets targetted by Silvina, and see if she can teleport away before getting killed. Retry until she doesn't crit 🙂
shadow onyx
Ok thank you
glossy pagoda
@verbal quarry neither tasi and lyca are worth it to be foddered, since u likely need both on high ascension later. In early chapters, and some would even say in general, its best to only use the legendary tier (blue) heroes as fodder.
soft swallow
How can i win this with this
heady siren
@soft swallow Try this!
Solise
Brutus
Cecilia
Hogan
Wukong
soft swallow
@heady siren nop it didn’t work
pale kettle
UwU plz helpie it's super hard
heady siren
@soft swallow Have you changed your gear around? Do you have any artifacts?
@pale kettle
Change the positions of Shemira and Lyca, reducing the odds of Shemira being rooted
soft swallow
@heady siren no artifacts
glossy pagoda
Maybe feral to delay her
heady siren
@pale kettle Think you'll be able to draw Thoran's first ultimate until he's the only one standing? Or Thoran and Shemira?
pale kettle
I could
heady siren
@soft swallow Okay- then swap Solise with Nemora, see if she can protect Wukong long enough to burst the enemies down during his ultimate move
glossy pagoda
Also do you have twins, at your level difference, they could actually work as an arden counter if placed in opposite of him, while also buffing your frontline.
Something on in the line of
Twins
Tasi/shemira
Rowan/rosa
Shemira/ tasi
Lyca
soft swallow
@heady siren nothings working
pale kettle
Problem is thoran gets killed at same time everyone else
heady siren
@soft swallow Final attempt :
Saveas
Brutus
Cecilia
Hogan
Belinda
Change your gear around, I am positive that Belinda will be able to kill Golus and everything else.
You should definitely get Belinda out of Crystal and put Solise in, because Belinda is Elite+, give her some more levels (at least 80) and you'll be able to deal enough damage.
heady siren
@pale kettle Swap Gorvo for Tasi, and give her Dura's call, change the formation to this :
Shemira
Tasi
Rosaline / Grezhul
Thoran
Lyca
The faction bonus of 3-2 will help with surviving but Rosaline can completely dodge Athalia- If Athalia focuses your Thoran you might get a better result.
Change your artifacts like so :
Dura's Eye - Rosaline
Dura's Call - Shemira
Dura's Chalice of Vitality - Thoran
Dura's Drape - Tasi
Dura's Grace - Lyca
grim nova
I’ve tried Lyca tasi and arden in place of Brutus Lucius and Rosa but it doesn’t seem to work maybe I gotta just keep refreshing
Also if I haven’t pulled a fawkes yet would he be worth for single copy elite from store?
glossy pagoda
For me he was worth it, depends on preferences
soft swallow
@heady siren dolise is already in
grim nova
I see a lot of stage clears around my level using his E copy so I think I might
He fits really well with my current setup
pale kettle
@heady siren okay will do, thx a lot for help !
stone ginkgo
Any suggestions for 26-58? Ideally without Thoran because I’ve merc‘d him for this week, or without Ferael as mine isn’t great 😅
heady siren
@stone ginkgo You can give this a shot! :
Athalia
Lyca
Belinda
Fawkes
Rowan
If you'd like an artifact suggestion, please do mention me! 😁
If Fawkes doesn't survive due to Brutus' debuff, change him with Lucius ^^
Best of luck!~
onyx basin
any burning brute comp that doesnt have talene or lorsan?
stone ginkgo
Well if you’re offering I’ll take artifact suggestions @heady siren just to sanity check my knowledge 😄
heady siren
@stone ginkgo Sure thing!
Dura's Eye - Athalia
Dura's Grace - Fawkes / Lyca
Dura's Call - Rowan
Dura's Chalice of Vitality - Lucius / Lyca
Dura's Blade - Belinda
stone ginkgo
Thanks! That’s about what I would have gone with 😄
heady siren
@pale kettle You're welcome anytime! 🙂
@stone ginkgo Best of luck!~
@onyx basin
It would depend 🤔 What do you have that I can choose from?-
onyx basin
@heady siren not really, pretty much everyone uses the same comps in TR but like i mentioned i dont have both these heroes so i need something else
heady siren
Ah, well, please do share your hero roster and I will give you a proper lineup! 🙂
onyx basin
Anyway here what i got
heady siren
This might work well for you!
Lucius
Tasi
Rowan
Belinda
Rosaline
@onyx basin And if you'd like an artifact suggestion feel free to let me know!
onyx basin
@heady siren sure, id like to hear it, is that frontline Tasi?
heady siren
Very well!
Dura's Call - Rowan
Dura's Grace - Tasi (so casting her ult will give her a shield every time)
Dura's Chalice of Vitality - Lucius
Dura's Blade - Belinda
Dura's Conviction - Rosaline
And to your question - Yes! She can always teleport away behind and ally if she's in trouble 😋
onyx basin
@heady siren I'd give it a try and I'll let you know how I did, thank you.
heady siren
Best of luck to you!
onyx basin
@heady siren For some reason Rossa followed Tasi altho she had the worst gear of them all, I made only 21M dmg
heady siren
Oh? You know that Rosaline follows the hero with the most overall might rating.
Have you changed Belinda's gear for the better?
If you need to, remove some gears entirely from Tasi so Rosaline will follow Belinda!
@onyx basin
onyx basin
belinda had the best gear while tasi the worst, Ill see what i can do
gloomy coral
Any help mauler tower?
copper stirrup
@gloomy coral first of all place sofia to the back
@gloomy coral brutus+skreg front. and numisu to the center of backline
heady siren
@gloomy coral You are incredibly underlevelled!
But perhaps...-
Brutus
Satrana
Numisu
Skreg
Safiya
Satrana's explosion would affect Thane, Lucius, and Topside Estrilda prior to Brutus' debuff roar, and then continue to focus him, stalling them further.
Followed up by Skreg's little roamer passive that strikes enemies that are the most distant from him, which will be affected by Satrana
brave belfry
22-56 help
onyx basin
@heady siren can you take a look at mauler tower 160 here?
glossy pagoda
A khasos merc with atleast si+10 maybe actually more helpful than satrana for mauler 60
onyx basin
heady siren
@onyx basin Of course! Please do share your screenshots. If it makes you more comfortable, do so in DMs 🙂
onyx basin
I can make ascended Numisu or Skreg if that would help me
heady siren
The closest I got is by putting Khasos in the middle, like so :
Safiya
Brutus
Khasos
Satrana (to interrupt him from mind controlling Safiya and have her stun the other Ezizh)
Vurk
This was my formation, but that's because I don't have a Warek 😹
Use Warek instead of Vurk, if Khasos kills Botzh ezizhs and enemy Vurk with enough axe throws, the win is basically knocking at your door!
onyx basin
@heady siren warek and santrana being E+ only really doesnt help, whole fight nobody from my team can cast an ult
heady siren
It's particularly hard because of the Ezizhs, it really depends on the first 5-7 seconds of the match to see if Khasos can kill both Ezizhs... until then the battle will be lost because they regenerate 100 energy per 3 seconds to all alies passively.. @onyx basin
glossy pagoda
For a stage like this getting a merc is probaply the best way, maybe satrana would even be a good choice, since she has high burst even befor her ult, well so kinda does vurk, but hell get mindcontrolled
onyx basin
@heady siren Khasos is being interrupted by Vurk's bomb after the third axe throw..
Ok i managed to kill both ezizhs (and left vurk at 1hp) but safiyas finished me with their ults
heady siren
It's all about more of those attempts and luck!
It might be a bit more risky but you could try :
Safiya
Brutus
Vurk
Khasos
Satrana
So then Khasos will be able to kill Ezizh, Vurk, and Satrana, making it a bit easier for you to kill the other Safiya
@onyx basin
glossy pagoda
@@soft swallow I rather wouldnt use shemira as ur carry that early, atleast not without rosaline. I would actually expect solise to perform better for now. Id probaply use
Nemora
Ulmus
Solise
Wukong
Safiya
As the main setup and maybe occasionally sub in cecilia numisu (he or cecilia are likely ur best counter for sorens charm) and brutus. Arden becomes also decent a little bit later (he needs level 81+ )
iron flint
Been stuck on here for a while, not sure what to do
heady siren
@iron flint Swap the positions of Rowan and Rosaline, and instead of Shemira, put Belinda!
Formation should look like this;
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Estrilda
Rowan
Yes, most of your team will lose your Rowan's ultimate but you will be able to kill Ankhira and Khasos with one Belinda move, thanks to the faction bonus of 5 (25%+ ATK and HP) and faction advantage! (which, I believe is +30% damage)
If you'd like me to suggest you artifacts placements too I'd happily do so, let me know! 🙂
midnight breach
is here any line up possible or do I just restart and hope for better relics
heady siren
@midnight breach It would depend! could you screenshot your relics? Yellow to purple ones in the screenshot will be enough! ^^
For now, I believe that :
Ferael
Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
will make an amazing lineup against it, especially if Tasi will get to cast her eternal slumber ability twice, while Ferael is decreasing their energy while peeling them.
It would be a lot more comfortable if your Tasi would be able to cast her ult immediately so then the Eironn's won't displace your Shemira, Nemora, Lyca, and Ferael dangerously close to the Khazards . . . 🤔
hollow blade
Guys any ideas???
midnight breach
@heady siren your team comb worked ! I would have never thought to put fereal your brain must be huge! thanks
heady siren
@midnight breach Congratulations! ^~^ ❤️
@hollow blade Hey there!
Give this a shot;
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Lyca (you don't need her to survive)
Nemora (charm Morvus? Khasos? either or)
The 3-2 faction bonus will grant you 15%+ ATK rating and 20%+ HP rating, increasing survivability, with Rowan pushing Belinda's energy to the limit she will be able to handle with enemy Mirael, Ankhira, and Golus, depending on if Lucius can cast his ultimate enough times!
Try several times~ ^^
spare girder
Should I just level a bit more?
inland temple
Do i over lvl shem or bel?
heady siren
@spare girder I don't think so!
Try this :
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Rowan
Fawkes
Artifacts :
Dura's Grace - Fawkes
Dura's Blade - Belinda
Dura's Drape - Rowan
Dura's Call - Rosaline
Dura's Chalice of Vitality - Lucius
I have a feeling that it will work for you if you get 2 of Belinda's ultimate moves on the enemy!
spare girder
@gloomy coral I feel it's better you get a Safiya merc than a Satrana merc then use.
Numisu
Brutus
Khasos
Skreg
Safiya
gloomy crest
any idea?
heady siren
@inland temple For now Belinda! Once you'll reach Mythic tier with Shemira, is where Belinda gets dethroned, Shemira's strongest power-spikes are at levels 161, and even more so at 181! 🙂
inland temple
@heady siren how much do i drop others lvl 125?
gloomy coral
@spare girder will tru ty
heady siren
@inland temple No need to drop other's levels.
just patiently grind resources via AFKing and manage your upcoming resources properly onto Belinda, until Shemira has enough to attain Mythic tier.
hollow blade
Guys what should i do gwyneth or gowan?
twin hare
neither, you shouldn't fodder rowan or gwyneth
hollow blade
@twin hare why not
twin hare
because they're ascended tier heroes, they shouldn't be used as fodder
alpine ice
um I never got help for this so please
soft swallow
@glossy pagoda thans for the advice
alpine ice
I can’t use any mercenaries
twin hare
@hollow blade have a read of this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/bxmuix/guide_comprehensive_beginners_guide_chapters_16/
heady siren
@alpine ice Oh wow! the might difference is so close yet you're at a massive faction disadvantage!
Could you share your hero roster and I'll be able to give you a good lineup? 🙂
twin hare
So now I actually am stuck. 23-10. This is the only solution I could find, but I get wiped in under 10s.
alpine ice
it won’t send
soft swallow
What hero should i upgrade
heady siren
@soft swallow I would suggest to get your Belinda out of Crystal, and level her up manually, since she is Elite+.
should you put Brutus in the Crystal instead of her and focus your resources on her!
foggy verge
Stuck on 22-6 any advice?
heady siren
@foggy verge For some reason I have a feeling that this formation might work for you;
Arden (Root Grezhul, Ogi, and perhaps also Tasi)
Shemira
Lyca
Estrilda (should you level her up a bit so she will have better survivability)
Nemora (Charm enemy Nemora, and then enemy Nemora will charm another enemy, it'll stall a lot of time for you!)
foggy verge
Worked after a few tries, thanks!
heady siren
Ooh congrats! glad it helped! 🙂
pastel cosmos
hey guys/gals I'm currently stuck on 16-40 my izold is +18 my fawkes is +11 and my shemira is only +7 i only have mythic gear on my izold any advice/team suggestions to get past 16-40 would be greatly appreciated.
heady siren
@pastel cosmos This would be a rough stage for Izold, especially against a Lyca, and a Kaz.
Perhaps you should try :
Eironn
Nemora (charm enemy Nemora)
Fawkes
Lyca (you don't need her to survive)
Athalia (deny that Arden from casting his roots)
Hopefully you will be able to brute-force your way out of it using Fawkes, Athalia and Eironn! 😄
pastel cosmos
thank you I'll let you know how it goes
heady siren
Sure! But please DM me since I am now heading to sleep ^-^ @pastel cosmos
pastel cosmos
alrighty sleep well
mellow rain
I am stuck on 9-34 of the campaign currently. I've tried many combinations, but I keep failing. Any tips
glossy pagoda
Oof should i rather use my l+fawkes instead of estrilda here? He does have better gear just not level etc.
Oh and rosa follows licius, should i avoid that?
mellow rain
Need help to pass floor 121
violet igloo
@mellow rain have you read the quickstart guide pinned in #classic-questions ? it's 1 page and it should help you. You have ascended too many heroes to legendary
mellow rain
@violet igloo so it's bad to ascend heroes to legendary? I thought that was the overall goal
violet igloo
the guide is 1 page and explains in 1 phrase why. it's best to wait until you can put the hero to L+ because there is a risk that that you get stuck with many heroes in L. You only need 5 heroes
you could have put Shemira to L instead of baden. The others are okay, but for now try to keep fodder aside 🙂
mellow rain
@violet igloo, unfortunately, I did not have the E+ shemira at the time. Thank you for the tips. I did go over and read the sticky. I am still rather new to the game
clever patio
violet igloo
@mellow rain if you want to progress fast, Shemira is an Excellent choice, she's a really strong DPS for mid game.
clever patio
I used belinda as my main carry till about maybe a week ago
mighty veldt
She’ll make her reappearance around 24-60/25
zenith tusk
I wish i had that asc rowan
mellow rain
Last fight in the frozen ground and no matter the lineup I use I can't beat this one.
violet igloo
@mellow rain you need your heroes to be full energy and also good relics (firebringer and icebringer for example)
@hoary axle
Belinda
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius/Twins
Lorsan/Twins
Ideally Rosa follows Belinda, not Rowan
hoary axle
Shem not ideal?
mellow rain
@violet igloo you lost me.
violet igloo
@mellow rain energy is the orange bar underneath health bar. When energy is full, your hero will cast his ultimate
cold trench
Any tips?
dusky gale
How to beat
gloomy coral
What can i do guys
blissful cobalt
Any suggestions? stuck 8-40 lol
tawny surge
Stuck on 16-27
stone bluff
is't possible?
pale kettle
Always prioritize on overleveling your carry first. Reset either Wukong or Lucius and max Belinda's level, then replace Tasi with her.
You could also ditch the wilders on your team for now and try putting Cecilia in. Should distract either enemy Niru or Isabella for a while.
@blissful cobalt
blissful cobalt
last time on 8-20 someone suggested me level two tanks(brutus and licius) to lv120 first then level belinda/lyca/rosaline to lv100
so i went with that guess its still dps carry first
thank you;)
scenic frost
Burning brute team?
lilac agate
How do I beat this stage
cyan oasis
Hi
green saddle
Hello. Really out of ideas
copper stirrup
@green saddle tasi and nemora instead of rowan and Rosaline. Idea to charm mirael
@lilac agate swap shaman and estrilda. And change shaman to lucius. Idea to get fraction bonus
pale kettle
@hoary axle go Belinda, Rosa, Lorsan, Rowan, and Twins. Pretty sure thats a good wrizz formation
heady siren
@scenic frost @lilac agate
Hey! Do you still need a lineup advice?-
modest lintel
@dusky gale try and merc for thoran carry if possible and rng. Only way I was able to do it
tall flint
Stuck here. Can’t use Lucius because he pretty much insta dies, shemira perma ccd so she can’t ult Belinda cocooned. Not sure what to do
heady siren
@tall flint Try this out;
Belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Rosaline
If it fails, then swap the positions of Brutus and Rosaline! I have a feeling that you can pass this stage.
wintry ether
Anyone have suggestions for stage 40 of wilder tower?
idle oriole
@wintry ether try eironn instead of tree
tall flint
@heady siren tried Shem on Brutus side she gets blown up by Arden cc and Brutus ult also Rowan rarely survives long enough to ult in the middle
wintry ether
@idle oriole thanks! Just got me past the 40 floors all!
still ivy
Anyone got any ideas to beat them?
tiny zinc
tall forge
Retried this level over 100 times now (not an exaggeration), what can I do?
unkempt parcel
smoky delta
pale kettle
What would you say is the best mercenary to borrow? At the moment, any mercenaries I borrow will be level 220.
golden crown
Tips for this stage?
brave oriole
severe trellis
Any suggestions on this lineup? I feel as though im hitting walls a tad earlier than I should n feel like it has to do with my lineup, just not sure who to sub out and invest in. Everybody says saveas is a crazy carry but I havent had any luck with him
pliant rampart
@severe trellis fewks and Lucius are op in campaign, put them in the Cristal, even if they're epic
And after that try to use one mage at time (Shem in better at the moment)
Maybe try something like:
Grezhul
Lucius
Shemira
Nemora
fewks
steady imp
Hi. Try it 50 times. Now i Need some help
severe trellis
@pliant rampart yeah I knew lucius was op, just hadnt invested in him or fawkes yet because theyre both epics with no copies to do E+ or L. I knew thoran was a weak tank for my team, but I had him in rotation because of the 3 GB faction bonus. You really think a 100 E lucius is worth throwing in?
heady siren
@steady imp Hey! 🙂
It seems tough but Shemira could pass it!
Try this out;
Lyca
Shemira
Talene
Brutus
Nemora (charm anyone)
Make sure you swap the gear around and artifacts as well! If you'd like a suggestion on them let me know!
steady imp
Thx. But which artifacts u mean?
heady siren
Do you possess any of Dura's artifacts? Grace, Drape, Blade, Call, and so on @steady imp
heady siren
Yes! You should put them like this :
Dura's Call - Shemira
Dura's Grace - Talene
Dura's Blade - Brutus
mighty veldt
@steady imp you’d probably do better with Shem at 180 and everyone else 140 Around there not sure how much xp you’d have left but Shem 180 then Lucius 160 Rowan 160 is what I’d do and you’ll likely get to around 16-18 with that iirc ( just some food for thought don’t have to do that but would probably get you to 16 with Shem 180 with that setup )
signal lintel
Can someone help? Entire lineup gets insta melted 😅
brave oriole
@signal lintelvery hard stage, i dunno your gear, but i would try Rosa shem, Lucius rowan fawk first, with call on Lucius
and if not work, then you have to use lyca arden Backline
brave oriole
@pale kettlemmm do you use the resonating Chrystal?
brave oriole
@pale kettleyou don't have more slots available?you would need nara to pull. silvina
pale kettle
I have enough xp to get Nara 100
brave oriole
oh man, you don't need exp, in this game you only need to lvl 5 heroes, the rest put them. in the chrystal
pale kettle
And I can ascend her to legendary
brave oriole
no, do not ascend heroes to legendary, without having 4 copies, and tbh I would keep all the graveborn faction heroes elite+ for ascending shemira. do you buy shemira from. the lab shop always?
pale kettle
Yes
brave oriole
do not ascend any graveborn, keep the heroes elite+ and only ascend shemira and nothing else from. graveborn
show. me how looks your resonating chrystal
pale kettle
Ok
brave oriole
you should have more than one slot available now
pale kettle
brave oriole
oh lol, you removed all the heroes 😂 , well, just use 100 diamonds to have an available slot for nara and put her in place of shemira to. pull silvina. and then, I would. lvl Belinda more, she can be lvl 140 right now
novel adder
@signal lintel do you have a nemora?
try
shem
lyca
nemora
brutus
tasi
rng until nemora charms the arden.. arden roots kaz.. you need good boots on nemora.. or in worst case scenario put call on nemora too..
pale kettle
Alright
signal lintel
@brave oriole I will try that and let you know how it goes, as far gear goes Shem is on full mythic set, rest of the team only legendary and legendary+ gear
brave oriole
@pale kettlewell, just buy everyday dust from. the shop with gold. do not use your gold for other than dust. do not buy items or. else with your gold. and the guild coins... save them for the mythic gear at chap 12
signal lintel
@novel adder I do have her, but the problem is she’s not well built. I have her only on elite+ so she gets insta melted as well. I tried the wilder support squad like you mentioned already
novel adder
its rng heavy.. but its the only way to deal with the arden kaz lyca
its not about stats.. its about reversing the triple root
your own arden wont work because of ogi downside while top side will force shem into a bad position
signal lintel
I understand, I’ll get mythic boots on nemora and try my luck with retries
heady siren
@pale kettle Hey ! How have you been? 🙂
Try using this formation :
Isabella
Lyca
Tasi
Thoran
Shemira
heady siren
@light harbor Try swapping Tasi for Mehira! So you'll be able to gain +30% DEF rating from the hypogean faction bonus in addition to the 2 Wilders + Celestial faction bonus.
Nemora
Wukong
Mehira
Gorvo
Saveas
light harbor
@heady siren my frontliner only last for 10-12 secs and saveas wont even get a kill
heady siren
You'll need Nemora to charm Brutus then! So he won't debuff your heroes to little to no defense! @light harbor
novel adder
@pale kettle im not very experienced with isabella carry.. maybe try shem for this?
Lyca
Tasi
Isabella/Rosaline
Grezhul
Shem
if grezhul cant tank, use brutus.. and hopefully you snipe off thane early.. you can try rosaline in grezhul position. but im not quite familiar with the thane on rosaline mechanic
pale kettle
In my opinion isabella is usually easier than shemira ; ill try
Grezhul better be able to tank he's full 5* T1 gear, Brutus doesnt even haves full mauler gear lol
Thx, worked perfectly !
pale kettle
wheat hemlock
Help
violet igloo
@wheat hemlock I recommend you read the quick guide pinned in #classic-questions you have too many legendary heroes which is halting your progress
glossy pagoda
@wheat hemlock
At your level its better to use a single damage dealer at the highest possible level (In ur case 160) then 4 of them. reset shemira and ira for saveas 160 and try
Athalia
Ulmus
Belinda
Brutus
Saveas
novel adder
@pale kettle yeap just for reference.. the issue with isabella was that she targets lowest health but you really need to snipe thane off.. shemira is easier positioning wise to target the thane with her siphon.. so shem lowers his health isabella's burst would target thane.. or the alternative would be a rosaline following shem and teacup into his face.
violet igloo
@wheat hemlock Put Shemira 160+ and other heroes 140. Mythic Shemira will be stronger than L+ Saveas. We need to see your entire box to give you a team composition
light harbor
@heady siren i think my form cant really sustain the enemies xD. Already tried 100 times nothing good come out
glossy pagoda
Any idea for this one? nara is big trouble.
heady siren
@light harbor It would make sense! Maybe some more levelling / Ascending.. try to get your Saveas to Legendary tier and level him up further.. sometimes it's just necessary 😅
light harbor
@heady siren i wonder if i should overleveling tank first but i dont have any good tank except gorvo or hogan 😅
heady siren
@light harbor That wouldn't be a good idea :x Solely because it's a lot of resources you're putting on meatshields that can't provide a lot of damage.
Hogan is a bruiser though so him being more beefy than usual can help a little but not enough to clutch / win . . . 🤔
I think it'll be best if you'll level one DPS for now.
mighty veldt
Dps>tank> support is how you want to use your Xp/dust
novel adder
@glossy pagoda i think you definitely need nemora for this.. drop the lorsan. who does tasi banish? if lyca isn't surviving the nara long enough, try tasi and see if she can squirm away..
light harbor
@heady siren hmm okay thats a relieve. How about i swap saveas with eironn? Maybe the 3 wilders + 1 hypo + 1 celestials better than 2 wilders + 1 saveas + 1 hypo + 1 celestials?
coarse hamlet
Can this team reach GB tower 60? This need that 12 rares for ascended shemira
glossy pagoda
Tasi banishes Morvus in the beginning (belinda may change that later). ok ill try nemora
coarse hamlet
pale kettle
@novel adder my isabella double targets so she can carry better than roz
heady siren
@light harbor Eironn needs a lot of levelling and ascension care to actually perform well-- About level 220 and Ascended tier
light harbor
@heady siren oh no... its time to afk then, thank you so much^^
pale kettle
How plz
inland temple
Any advice?
wheat hemlock
Ok
glossy pagoda
Aydnie he asked for that stage earlier and is sharing his happiness, that the help worked...
ornate totem
Morvus one shots half of my team, and little guy olso is annoying!!
brave oriole
@ornate totemahh easy stage
glossy pagoda
@novel adder thx nemora helped, and i had to actually let seirus be dragged by nara in the end
ornate totem
@brave oriole not been trying for an hour
ornate totem
@brave oriole tryed your comp didn't help
brave oriole
grace shem, sowrd Rosa eye fawk, chalice call try Lucius or rowan
I dont think that I had to try more Than once this stage, but again, I would play with 3x 240
glossy pagoda
Generally a character with high dodge, is the best way to counter the charger dward imo
dusky gale
Help
glossy pagoda
Any ideas here? My best run timed out vs warek in the end, lyca dieying made my damage insufficent
oak meteor
Where I can find a lineup/tutorial/tips for new players like me? 😂🙋🏻♂️
glossy pagoda
Pinned messages
brave oriole
@glossy pagodait's not you eironn pulling faster than nara?
pale kettle
tall forge
Stuck here for a while, help?
pale kettle
Team keeps dying for me
heady siren
@oak meteor Hey! You can check the pinned messages of this chatroom! ^
@glossy pagoda I have a feeling that this formation will work!
Lorsan
Seirus
Lyca
Tasi
Arden (root Saveas, Golus, and possibly even Nara)
In an attempt to save the use of a mercenary, if Arden casts his roots enough times you could pass it!
glossy pagoda
Nara vs eironn is always won by nara in the beginning i think. But if nemora charms ankhira, nara will get coocooned @brave oriole
heady siren
@tall forge Hey! you could try this formation!
Athalia
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
providing you with the same faction bonus and faction advantage over Khasos, Brutus while denying Arden from rooting your team.
It's risky because your Athalia isn't so great, try and see if you can fit Tasi in the formation.
oak meteor
@heady siren thank you!
heady siren
@oak meteor @glossy pagoda Has mentioned it before me! 🙂
tall forge
@heady siren the main problem here is the seirus, he one shots pretty much everyone except when dodging
copper stirrup
Wish arden would help at 26+ chapter lol 😭
oak meteor
@glossy pagoda thank you 👍🏻🙋🏻♂️
glossy pagoda
tall forge
AHHH BRUTUS WAS 1 HEALTH THEN HE ULTED AND GOT BACK UP TO FULL
heady siren
@tall forge Few more attempts! The RNG is there! ^^
tall forge
ok I can definitely pass this through way too much RNG
glossy pagoda
@heady siren sadly tasi cant dodge saveas there at all, even with 4* wilder t1 boots and staff. I tried swapping her and seirus, but then lyca dies to nara and golus ult kills arden. Any other ideas? I dont really mind using the merc, since iam pretty close to the limit what i can reach on 220 crystal anyway i feel. And on my server 3guys seem to be stuck that are all way higher level^^
heady siren
@glossy pagoda Oohh okay!
Hmm-...
Maybe this would show better result?
Nemora (charm Ankhira)
Tasi
Lyca
Seirus
Arden
Positively, Seirus will make a better opponent to Golus and will be able to fight back against Saveas' using his crowd control.
Would you like me to advice you on artifacts as well?- ^^
brave oriole
I mean all are higher lvl at all
I cant find my fight saved there anymore, but sure thing that I've used eironn middle
ulmus root helped me. lots of times
ornate totem
Athalia destroys my team!