that's pretty good
#lineup-help
brave wagon
gleaming flax
Idk if rowan is enough but maybe my shem is enough
glossy pagoda
Well having t1weapon too would certainly be helpful
gleaming flax
So how do i set up?
glossy pagoda
Would u be willing to merc for it? If yes can u get numisu merc?
Its the only skreg in 22 btw
gleaming flax
I wanted to save merc, can i get trough 22 if i use merc now?
glossy pagoda
How much dodge has ur lyca currently? It comes mostly down too, weither she can dodge the 2 athalias or not i think.
vale wasp
I usually run wilder trio but on this stage (22-42) I had to adapt and merc. Was really the most anoying stage in the whole chapter @gleaming flax
glossy pagoda
Skreg +warek+khasos is probaply fast invul anyway
gleaming flax
Set up like this?
vale wasp
I dunno, the goal here is to delay the fight so Shemira can ult twice thanks to Rosa. But honestly you need a lot of luck here
glossy pagoda
He used frontline rowan there, but it was merc rowan who is harder to kill
vale wasp
^ true
gleaming flax
Just tried my shem gets killed instantly by brutus
glossy pagoda
If u merc numisu, i think
Shemira
Brutus
Rowan
Numisu
Athalia
Has a good chance to work, the numisu should have +10si atleast i think
I used my own numisu to beat that
His totems offer alot of distraction
glossy pagoda
Well i could offer you mine
gleaming flax
Ok can i add you then?
glossy pagoda
Ye the ign is Yetinokles
glossy pagoda
Good luck with him
pulsar breach
Helpppp
past oak
Can anyone help me?
gleaming flax
What should i do then
glossy pagoda
Try swapping rowan and numisu, maybe that still can buy enough time for shemira
gleaming flax
Just did rowan and numisu still 1 shot
vale wasp
and no matter what your lineup, in any case you will have to restart the fight a lot of times
green saddle
@past oak have Belinda or Saveas ( carry) 40 levels from everybody if possible. 2 protectors and try to keep faction bonus so Belinda will be easier for now.
gleaming flax
Yes i tried a lot and will try but numisu and rowan and athalia got 1 shot so idk if its worth retrying
glossy pagoda
Well if numisu has a chance to dodge khasos axes then he might, but it would probaply helpful to incorporate fawkes to deal with khasos or something
vale wasp
right, that's why I used Fawkes in that fight
and with some luck he might dispell Brutus shield
quick ivy
Is shemira better than isabelle at lvl 141, legendary+? If not, what about mythic?
gleaming flax
mossy galleon
Got tasi.. Solise.. Skriath.. As new account.. What shud be my line up?
pale kettle
new? honestly, any hero will work, as long as you mind the faction bonus
if you still want the most optimal lineup, upload a pic of your hero pool here @mossy galleon
vale wasp
@gleaming flax good job 🙂
pale kettle
yup, you're too early. any hero will work at your current state, don't worry about it too much for now @mossy galleon
mossy galleon
I meant is it good start or shud I reroll?
pale kettle
but you were just asking for a lineup 
it's too early to judge, but you already have a decent hero to start with
keep it
mossy galleon
Thnx @pale kettle.. I'll see what I'll get and keep the feed back.. Thanks for the help buddy
glossy pagoda
Rerolling doesnt do much in this game, unless you go for talene twins or mehira Maybe. But those are hard to reroll. And we are about to get a new event soon, doing the event is more worthwhile than rerolling imo.
mossy galleon
Yh I believe that too
slender echo
Any body in the crystals I should swap out, or is there a different 13 characters I should be focusing on?
glossy pagoda
Definetly swap out niru and shemira at that point, maybe skreg too. athalia and arden are good for cc, esrtilda and belinda may help at guildhunt
upper zinc
Help
glossy pagoda
@upper zinc
Try
Rosaline
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes
U never want to go for golus first
slender echo
@glossy pagoda thanks, I've taken them out, will add Arden, Belinda and either athalia or estrilda tomorrow when the timer is finished
shut marsh
Need help don’t know what my main 5 should be currently stuck at 6-18
glossy pagoda
Gz, i Hope u saved guild coins, to get some mythic mage gear now
Well after 12-2but shouldnt be to hard
upper zinc
i have about 71k rn
glossy pagoda
Sound good, try getting staff and boots
dark juniper
@slender echo put rosaline in your crystal
glossy pagoda
Rosaline is great, but not to much for saveas carry
glossy pagoda
I would bring athalia to level 80first(may reset shemira for that) and then level up hogan and fawkes afterwards
serene steeple
Oh I thought Shemira was a good unit to use
glossy pagoda
She is mostly for level 161-~260
Until level 100athalia will do u good as a carry, may want to switch to saveas or murael for level 101-160 then
serene steeple
Okay thanks
tall forge
Any tips here? Shem gets melted by Brutus and khasos
empty pulsar
@tall forge post your entire box. Are they dying before brutus shield, or after/during? What stage is that?
tall forge
@empty pulsar die during and after. Stage 21-38
empty pulsar
@tall forge
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Rosa
I usually run fawkes on brutus levels to clear shield, sometimes I use call if he isnt getting ult quite fast enough.
frank socket
Stuck on 17-36, any way I could improve my current setup? (Fawkes and Tidus both have full Mythic gear so that’s why I’m using Fawkes, he’s got a lot of dodge)
empty pulsar
@shut marsh
Reset your heroes, Belinda to 81. You want your carry +20-+40 above your tank.
Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes
I used E Rowan and E rosa through CH 14 at least, so put them both on crystal
night gorge
Guys ive been trying for ages with different setups, any input to help me beat this?
tall forge
@empty pulsar lucius gets deleted
empty pulsar
@tall forge damn... time for me to start work, maybe cwonk or paddy will be on this AM and can help a bit more.
tall forge
Aight ty for ur help and good luck! @empty pulsar 🙂
winter matrix
@tall forge this is what I used
Since your Lyca isn't that great, you can try switching her for Brutus
limpid spade
Please help I’ve been stuck for weeks
vale wasp
@limpid spade
22-50
Nemora
Shemira
Fawkes
Lyca
Tasi
worked for me
cloud fossil
is it possible
winter matrix
Does Lucius live long enough for his ult? @cloud fossil
limpid spade
Thanks!
winter matrix
Then try taking out Ezizh and putting in Brutus for his 8s of invincibility
vale wasp
Did it work @limpid spade ?
limpid spade
Unfortunately no
winter matrix
Try Lyca vs Kaz and Nemora instead of Rosaline @hushed lance
minor thunder
Anyone can help me to build a team pleas ?
remote sandal
Should I +30 my Eironn or my soon to be ascended athalia?
Team I usually use is wilder trio + eironn as a 4th and lucius. Sometimes swapping eironn for shemira
winter matrix
Athalia needs +30 to work as a carry, so if you are gonna use her a lot I'd +30 her @remote sandal
remote sandal
Thing is idk if I should use her, or just stick with eironn. He is also added to challenger store now, so easier to 5*. What would you do in my place? @winter matrix
winter matrix
You already have Eironn at 1* so I would continue buying Belinda and get her to +30 first
mossy galleon
pale kettle
Help please it’s LB 140 tower
mossy galleon
Lol
winter matrix
@mossy galleon
Tasi
Talene
Solise
Skriath
Twins @mossy galleon
pale kettle
Wait i’m kidding i gave one more try with top 5 and it worked
Ok different one... 297 tower
young remnant
worthy island
24-36 warek just 1v5s my whole team
winter matrix
@young remnant
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes
stone flower
25-10
stone bluff
22-60 help me
brave oriole
https://youtu.be/9sCcF4Uw2wM do this
I had lowers heroes
after 5 tries max you should win
then send me a beer to madrid 😂
cinder crag
@brave oriole Any lineups for this one ?
brave oriole
what stage it is?
stone bluff
how your rowan don't die ?
brave oriole
mm Lucius shield. maybe?
cinder crag
25-54
brave oriole
ah, use the dura's call on him @stone bluff for pr
grace on shem, chalice Brutus eye arden
tough matrix
22-26
brave oriole
cinder crag
Lucius might be a problem since mine is legendary+ but worth a try
brave oriole
I would. make him m+ at last, he's very useful
stone bluff
i pass xperta ty
cinder crag
@brave oriole Only missing fodder for 1 star
brave oriole
send me a beer 
Heineken
cinder crag
And 1 more elite copy for 2 star
brave oriole
@tough matrixeasy, shem. Lucius, Rosa rowan fawk, should coffin ferael
duras grace on shem, chalice and call try rowan Lucius Wich works the best for who, if want faster shield. Lucius, if faster energy rowan
and blade on Rosa
I think this it was. my. lineup, cannot find the win surely. try this one if with rowan not works
echo juniper
Help with lineup pls? :)
winter matrix
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline @echo juniper
stone bluff
can i win f120 lightbears ?
winter matrix
Belinda
Lucius
Lyca
Seirus/Brutus
Tasi @minor thunder
past light
sweet crane
winter matrix
@sweet crane
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
No point in having Rosa + Saveas, as he needs his 1st ult to run out to start his 2nd one
sweet crane
I pair saveas with rosa because it makes saveas be completely insane and she also does a hole bunch of dmg
Could you advise me where to put my duras?
winter matrix
Call on Rowan, and Eye on Saveas.
You can keep Grace on Fawkes
sweet crane
Not working out, saveas can't go through golus at all
Brutus dies 10 seconds in, then golus goes on to attack rowan
And saveas keeps at it while their saveas kills mine
silver forum
Any tips guys
cold trench
Anything I can do differently? I’m hardstuck on 15-36 for like 4 days thanks
winter matrix
@silver forum
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca
Then try until Nemora charms enemy Arden
@cold trench try
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
stone flower
modest lintel
25-56
neat light
I have tried this like 200 times help
winter matrix
Can you send ss of all your heroes
neat light
winter matrix
Try
Fawkes
Lucius
Mehira
Shemira
Rosaline
neat light
I tried that but im going to try that 10x now
slim sail
Need help with 27-20
neat light
Wow wtf it worked on the first try thanks! @winter matrix
gleaming flax
22 47 help
winter matrix
@gleaming flax who would Tasi banish?
gleaming flax
Shemira
winter matrix
If you put a Tasi on your team?
violet igloo
@gleaming flax you really need to ascend your Tasi, and get Brutus to L+. I know it's not easy, you need to open the heroes
winter matrix
If she banishes enemy Tasi I would do
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi
gleaming flax
yes but i need to pull brutus and i am farming food for tasi
will try thx
my rosa gets 1 shotted xD
will try as many times as i can when i cant clear it in the next 2 hours i will ask again thx
winter matrix
Try switching Tasi and Rosa positions
gleaming flax
will do thx
mossy galleon
Someone told me the line up but didn't tell me who to focus lvling
winter matrix
I would suggest you make a Saveas and focus him. At lvl 160 he is a really good early game carry.
Also if you haven't yet, I suggest you read the Guides in the Pinned Messages here and in #classic-questions
mossy galleon
Saveas instead of sk?
winter matrix
Saveas is imo better than Skriath in early game
mossy galleon
Sure.. I'll do that.. But who to focus lvling first.. Or all of em shud be same?
winter matrix
For now focus on Talene. She is a carry, tank and a healer in one
mossy galleon
Stuck at last stage chapter 5.. Brutus makes me suffer .. What line up shud I use
winter matrix
You can try
Twins
Tasi
Solise
Talene
Skriath
But make everyone on your crystal lvl 61.
At ch5 you should already have crystal lvl 61
mossy galleon
Nah.. Don't have that yet.. Only 3 to 61 and rest to 4x
winter matrix
I would make Talene lvl 61 asap
silver forum
@winter matrix i tryed doesnt work bro
mossy galleon
That's my current situation
winter matrix
Alright, now make everyone else on your top 5 lvl 61
mossy galleon
I'll do that.. But I'll replace sk with saveas then.. Thanks
winter matrix
I would try
Rosaline
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes
neat light
Need help with 15-40
gleaming flax
Lost instantly After 10 tries my shem and lucius still get 1 shotted
winter matrix
You can try Nara or Athalia vs Ferael to stop him from from using his ghosts @neat light
gleaming flax
@winter matrix thx it worked 
winter matrix
Nice!
winter matrix
Only level your top 5 so go to the Rickety Cart and reset Ira. Then level the rest of your top 5 to 21.
Numisu
Hogan (use the Elite Hogan you have
Mirael
Antandra
Solise
For now overlevel Mirael. She will be a really good carry in early game
winter matrix
Buy Shemira from lab store, but in early game Mirael will be better
umbral whale
What about solise
winter matrix
She is decent, but hasn't been tested yet as she came out today
umbral whale
Ok thanks
winter matrix
Reset everyone to 41 and get Belinda to lvl 80. She will be your carry for now
vital oak
Any suggestion which to pick for main?
winter matrix
Take Saveas out of crystal and get him to lvl 120 as soon as possible. Focus on getting him to L+
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Wukong
Tasi/Rosaline
@vital oak
boreal parrot
Reset everyone to 41 and get Belinda to lvl 80. She will be your carry for now
@winter matrix cheers
gleaming flax
I am using that i almost clear it but at the end athalia ults and kills everybody i am at 22 60
Will this work should i just retry?
winter matrix
Have you tried Lucius where Nemora is and Nemora where Arden is? @gleaming flax
past oak
winter matrix
Belinda
Lucius
Lyca
Brutus
Arden @past oak
gleaming flax
Will try it
green saffron
Rn I’m running Brutus, Lucius, Belinda Saveas and Rosaline anything else that I should try?
winter matrix
You could try
Fawkes
Brutus
Rosaline
Lucius
Belinda
green saffron
Hmmm I will thanks 😁
vital oak
@winter matrix thanks for the advice..
shell hamlet
22-60
brave oriole
remove fawk, put Rosa up and arden down, after a few tries should win @shell hamlet
final meteor
Still stuck 25-40 
hushed lance
25-60. Ezizh is a bitch. What to do?
winter matrix
You can try switching Hogan for Lucius, and getting Saveas to 140.
You can also try Nemora where Tasi is to charm enemy Arden and make him root his team
slender echo
Thanks, I've tried so many times on this, lol
pale kettle
when should i switch shemira for belinda? i have both ascended in chapter 20. rest of the team is lucius/rosa/rowan/fawkes
slender echo
Think Saveas will hit 140 tomorrow
winter matrix
Shemira is good up until ch26, so I woukd use her until then @pale kettle
pale kettle
ok, thx
meager flicker
final meteor
Is this tasi thoranable?
hazy aurora
Right now I’m running Shemira, Brutus, nemora, Lyca & tasi anything else I should try?
violet igloo
@hazy aurora you're running the perfect meta comp for mid game and right now you're transitioning to late game, where Shemira loses her powerspike.
The heroes you need to focus for late game are Rowan Ferael Eironn. I'd say finish off your Wilders then work on LB and try and get Ferael ascended
hazy aurora
Im currently sitting at 23-36
Been stuck for quite some time with my current comp @violet igloo
violet igloo
I would say your next objective is Lyca and Tasi ascended and Lyca sig+20
I know it's hard because you have different focus on each faction except maulers
brave oriole
@hazy aurora stuck on chap 23 with 241 Chrystal?
I would try hard to get rowan if not Rosa also
supple cliff
Very new to the game and don’t understand team comps or who’s good at all. Any help? Here’s what I’m working with. DM if you need to do we don’t have to worry about the slowmode
brave oriole
well, I'm 24 30 with 220 Chrystal, but i will go forward soon. yeah the meta... is rowan shem Rosa
till chap 25
split peak
A 229 crytsal? Did u run out of xp?
brave oriole
nah I meant 220,im having millions of exp, but no dust 😂
@final meteor very hard but you have to be smart to set up the trap, ive successfully thoraned tasi at 26 60
like, thoran on shem place, rowan back, then the pullers
you can keep there lorsan for Ira connection and pull the others
glossy pagoda
Try shemira baden/numisu rowan rosa lucius/belinda. Basically try out weither baden clones or totems survive enough without lucius
violet igloo
Hi @supple cliff good choice to come here and ask questions. In early game, there are 2 really good carries, Saveas or Mirael. They are easy heroes to get, even though you have non right now. They work until lvl 160, After that Shemira takes over. You lus always buy her in lab shop
@supple cliff another really important tip : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. The best plan is to not ascend A tier heros past E+ until you have 8 copies of them. The exception to this rule is Shemira because you can buy her from Lab store she will take over as your main carry DPS when she reaches level 161, and also Saveas + Mirael because they are carries pre-160.
@supple cliff reset heroes who are level 10, and put them in resonating crystal.
supple cliff
Why don’t ascend to legendary?
violet igloo
@supple cliff right now with the comp you have since you opened 2 Belindas we'll use her as carry until you get your Shemira L+
Ascend Belinda to L+ using 2 hogans, in the ascending temple. Then do :
Belinda
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Nemora/Tasi
I would suggest after that you focus on wilder heroes to get Tasi / Lyca / Nemora they are excellent trio to support Shemira after lvl 160+
@supple cliff because otherwise you'll have loads of heroes stuck in Legendary and you'll have put ressources a bit everywhere and many heroes stuck. It's best to put ressources only in certain heroes
supple cliff
So get Belinda to L instead of Rowan? I also might have enough blues to get one wilder to L, should that be Tasi or Nemora
violet igloo
Yes because you don't have another E+ copy of Rowan
supple cliff
Oh okay. What about the wilders? Should I not ascend them yet
violet igloo
Same rule applies, wait until you can get them to L+ instead of rushing to L and being stuck
supple cliff
Okay
Ohh wow wait I got it now. I didn’t realize that to get to L+ you just need an E+. So I should take Belinda straight to L+ right?
@violet igloo
silk prawn
do I even have a chance of beating this stage?
still relic
Best comp? Who should I add or remove from resonating Crystal and who should I focus on getting/upgrading?
supple cliff
@violet igloo Yea I knew that much. Thanks for your help. Also I do have enough blue fodder to get a wilder to L. Should that be Tasi or Nemora once I can get them to L+. Or just go with whichever I can do first
Also I’ve heard Fereal is pretty great. Is there any truth to that?
solar bridge
Any tips? That Vedan immunity + lifesteal is just utter bullsheet. I usually kill off their team except Vedan with 4 heroes left and only Hendrik died. Then Vedan proceed to solo my whole team.
violet igloo
@supple cliff between Tasi and Nemora first to L+ put Tasi. And then you'll be really good, just missing Shemira keep buying her in lab shop
supple cliff
So once I get shemira L+ who should I swap her out for?
supple cliff
Oh okay
violet igloo
@still relic don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. The best plan is to not ascend A tier heros past E+ until you have 8 copies of them. The exception to this rule is Shemira because you can buy her from Lab store she will take over as your main carry DPS when she reaches level 161, and also Saveas + Mirael because they are carries pre-160.
Here you have 3 heroes at L who are stuck in L. Don't rush to ascend heroes and plan ahead. Also reset Lyca she's lvl 96 you're wasting a lot of XP for nothing
Reset Khazard too, take Saveas out of resonating crystal and out him 120. Then you can play
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Keep Shemira highest level and keep buying her in lab
@supple cliff I suggest you read the guide pinned in this channel written by V. Same goes for @still relic if you have 5 min 👍
solar bridge
Vedan immunity + lifesteal blocking me from next stage
brave oriole
try to dps on him more, put more dps on his side, saveas would kill him fast
with Vedan, it's or you fast dps him, or just tank him till to the end. l, maybe some manual ultimate is required, but your issue is that you don't have mirael overlvled @solar bridge. I would lvl her till 120 first
violet igloo
@solar bridge it's normal, your team comp is not optimized. You only need 1 DPS carry
Put Mirael lvl 120 and other heroes lvl 80 then do
Fawkes
Lucius
Mirael
Hogan
Rosa
solar bridge
@violet igloo No Saveas?
violet igloo
@solar bridge Mirael is tiny bit stronger than Saveas pre 160
solar bridge
Ok, got it
violet igloo
But you are free to choose, but only out one not two at same time
solar bridge
@brave oriole @violet igloo ok thx for advice. Will try n see how it goes.
violet igloo
@solar bridge your carry always needs to be 20-40 levels ahead of other heroes
craggy talon
Is new meta team lightbringers? With Shem of course
brave oriole
kinda, I like it more than everything, but ofc, you need the Wilders too,for such situations. there's many ways to play, but lb it's the most powerful in campaigns
craggy talon
Guess I need to start using my scrolls on them then ha
craggy talon
Need 2 more copies to get Rowan to ascended tier, so like 3 months away
pine fulcrum
guess who is stuck again 😎
25-48 seems kinda impossible with my current team
fawkes uses coffin on tasi
empty pulsar
@violet igloo nice progress
brave oriole
fawk is bad there, athalia will. kick his ass
pine fulcrum
yeah but 1 out of 10 times he survives pretty long in comparison to everyone else
i tried it with brutus too but i really need the coffin for tasi
brave oriole
yeah, can be, but if survive put him. Backline then
hardy crow
i need help with this lvl
pine fulcrum
makes next to no difference since tasi is gone and niru goes to lucius/rowan
brave oriole
yeah, but shem. being front would charge faster energy
pine fulcrum
only if she would get any dmg there right?
and after fawkes dies the athalia goes towords her no matter what
brave oriole
she will, when. Rosa will start spinning,
my setup, was like
my bad,
my point is, fawk. stay alive if rowan up
pine fulcrum
call is almost always on rowan for me
brave oriole
the thing is, yeah, shem. it's not Belinda
pine fulcrum
i know but i will have to wait for sunday to use an ascended one
brave oriole
your ferael, cannot tank athalia?
I would add him instead of Rosa, cuz athalia will do her ultimate slower
pine fulcrum
you are right i should try that
brave oriole
just put rowan up,and fawk on the down corner, he don't need rowan help
ferael should tank athalia with rowan heals
pine fulcrum
i will try like that but it will need a lot of resets no matter what
brave oriole
yeah, if you need faster shied of. Lucius, call on him
pine fulcrum
it seems to be possible that farael survives long enough for rowan ult that stuns athalia and after that it might work somehow
pale kettle
Anyone has any idea for mauler 150?
stuck siren
Tips please
stuck siren
I tried w A fawkes but athalia is so brutal
cold trench
I’ve been trying for the past hour and it’s still way to short. I’ve tried basically everything changing gear, artifact, changing lineups but nothing works anyone somehow has some magical tips? When I put rosa and Shem on top, they get destroyed by Brutus spin if I put them in bottom the will get destroyed and everyone will by vedan super
brave oriole
@stuck sirenshe is, but on. peaks, it's all about good buffs, so restart if you are killing too slow, maybe better luck. next run
stuck siren
What relics should I look for
brave oriole
@cold trench well, bscly you fucked up, too many legendary heroes, wasted fodders etc. you have no main dps, not yet
@stuck siren firebringer icebringer.. thae ones that reduce attack defense
high oyster
7-8
brave oriole
@cold trenchmy advice it's to put Lucius vs Vedan and shem up, keep. Rosa down there else fawk would die by niru
cold trench
Ok thanks a lot I’ll try that but yeah Ik I made a lot of mistakes in the ascension part
brave oriole
maybe you will need to. manual. fawk ultimate on Brutus shield too
cold trench
K thanks
brave oriole
np.
stuck siren
@brave oriole should I keep retooling until@I get both?
brave oriole
well, if you get the attack one is fine I think
they will hit you lower, and that is.
brave oriole
want my advice? reset fawk and keep him 200. make. Lucius 240. then you can lvl the others. and a team, yeah, shem Lucius front both 240,backline Rosa I hope that your shem will be followed, check her power to be more than of Lucius, rowan middle and fawk
stuck siren
Would I be able to keep crystal to 200 ?
brave oriole
yeah if you. lvl back fawk to. 200,you should have dust for. Lucius to. 240
yeah if you. lvl back fawk to. 200,you should have dust for. Lucius to. 240
stuck siren
Okay thanks a ton.
brave oriole
do you have 10k dust available now? cuz from. 220 to 240 its 40k,and you get back 30k from fawk
stuck siren
This is what I’m at now and have 6k dust with lots in bag
Not lots. More like 4K lmao
brave oriole
that's good, you will notice a huge diff with your team now,. use dura's grace on shem, blade. on Rosa, eye on fawk, and Lucius rowan up to you, chalice or call, call for faster ultimate
so if want faster shield use call on Lucius, if faster energy from. rowan, call on him
stuck siren
I like call on Lucius. Thanks a ton for ur help!
brave oriole
Lucius will tank. more. now, so it's better on rowan for faster shem. ultimate
you use call on Lucius when there's huge dps on him
and when he can't handle, put Rosa in front of him, you will see how. coll is
stuck siren
Okay I’ll put call on Rowan. Also, I have enough copies of Rosa to ascend her. But I also want to build Rowan, I only need one more of him to ascend him. Who should I build?
brave oriole
I would go. for. rowan first, bcs there's lots of stages with silvina, and you can bait her with Rosa. if Rosa is ascended first, silvina will attack. rowan and it's not good
stuck siren
Wait so who? Rowan. The second half kinda sounded like I should build Rosa. Sorry for misunderstanding
And can we pm? This downside is so annoying
brave oriole
silvina attack the lower mage, if it's Rosa much better. so ascend rowan, cuz Rosa can survive walking away
stuck siren
Slow mode **
brave oriole
ascend rowan, and focus in his sig first okay? don't stop till +20
stuck siren
Okay. So Rosa ascended not too important?
brave oriole
it is, just it's better for your team and for campaigns that rowan to be ascended first
stuck siren
Gotcha. Might take a while 😂Thanks.
brave oriole
np. 
stuck siren
@brave oriole I did it! Thank you!
slow topaz
Can someone please reccomend me a team comp? @Xperta
still relic
What is the best comp using my xrreny heros and what heroes should I add or remove from resonating Crystal? What heros should I reset or level up and what heroes should I try to get?
Current not xrreny
brave oriole
@stuck siren
still relic
I am thinking of leveling up Arden for cc
brave oriole
@slow topaz personally I love Lucius as tank, but i guess that you need more copies of him for a. my suggestion is, to reset Brutus and Khasos to 200, that mean 2 more m+ heroes to get your Chrystal 200,then lvl shem to 240. personally, the most useful team is shem with dura's grace, Brutus in your case front line, Backline Rosa to boost shem and dura's sword , make sure that she follow her, rowan middle with dura's call, and the last hero fawk Khasos athalia arden etc, by situations
slow topaz
@xperta I have 3 copies of Lucius, and fodder ready to make him ascended. Im just waiting for 1 more copy of Lucius
brave oriole
@still relic first of all, do not ascend heroes when they available for. make a. plan and set up a team . I would go for shemira, buy her always from lab shop, she will be your carry till chap 24+,focus on lb, Lucius tank, rowan healer, rosaline fawk, and maybe Wilders tasi lyca, nemora is fine elite. don't ascend Belinda yet if you Gonna use shem as main, keep the fodders for Lucius
@slow topaz that's good, I would. make him. m+ when is possible. cuz he's usable
slow topaz
@Xperta Thank you very much!
brave oriole
on that way you can lvl your Chrystal to 200,you need 2x m+ anyway, at last to be something that you will use
@slow topaz also, try to keep your heroes elite+ it will help. you will. need fodders, and if you make everything elite + it will. be hard to get fodders
still relic
Should I use Shemira as tank or dps
brave oriole
she's both
just keep her overlvled okay? once she will be m at last will be a huge change, and keep buying her from lab everytime till a
still relic
Someone told me to buy Nemora from lab shop. Is that true? Or should I keepbuying Shemira
brave oriole
no don't buy nemora, buy shem till you can a her
slow topaz
@xperta do you think i should make Ferael mythic? Im missing 1 copy and ill have enough for ascended ferael, same situation with Numisu?
brave oriole
nemora is weak, and when you will need her is fine. elite
@slow topazI wouldn't, he's good without to be m, use the fodders for Lucius rowan first
numitsu, I don't know, do you have safiya?
solar bridge
question, is it okay to ascend heroes like Arden, Mirael, Saveas to Legendary?
brave oriole
yeah, they can be l+, later will be used as fodders, but arden i would keep him till chap 23 24
solar bridge
okay, thanks.
still relic
Arden is good because his ultimate at level 141 can entangle 3 enemies, which is really useful.
slow topaz
safiya just elite +, also i have some fodder for graveborn, if not Ferael then who should i go for there? @brave oriole
still relic
@brave oriole should I focus on upgrading Tasi when possible? Should I use Lyca and Arden as fodder?
Should I save my lb fodder for Lucius or Belinda or Rowan or Fawkes?
brave oriole
@still relic lyca? never lol, never use ascended heroes for ascending
@still relic the fodders, only
still relic
Oh okay then. Can I use 3 support in my lineup?
brave oriole
never use something else as fodder, only. the list that you see
still relic
I have seen many people using the Wilder triple as a backline Tasi, Nemora Lyca
brave oriole
yeah, but, it's outdated. now is rowan, the main support
slow topaz
safiya i just have elite + no other copies, also i have some fodder for graveborn, if not Ferael then who should i go for there? @Xperta
brave oriole
@slow topaz honestly, you don't need to ascend everything now, but i would go for thoran of any chance
still relic
@@brave oriole What about Rosaline? I paired her with Shemira and the ult refresh works perfectly well together.
slow topaz
Thanks Xperta
pale kettle
What shall i Focus?
brave oriole
@still relicyep, she's great for your carry, keep using her
pale kettle
Im Stucked at lvl 10 ....
sweet crane
pale kettle
Hey can I have a bit of help with my lineup stuck on chapter 8-12
brave oriole
what's the enemy?
stray edge
Stuck 18-12
brave oriole
@stray edge 3 tanks not so good. do you have rowan?
not sure what gear do you have but, i would. leave fron line Lucius and Brutus, you find the best place for them, up. or down, just Lucius to survive, Backline, Belinda, fawk and arden maybe
rosa would be good but no idea who she will follow
stray edge
Rosaline usually follows Brutus.. I have an elite plus Rowan and a legendary Rosaline so..?
Arden is only Legendary tier so he only goes to level 160, who could I put in place or him?
craggy talon
Any ideas for Brutal Citadel floor 100
high oyster
7-16
calm nova
Help
golden bobcat
What should I change in my composition besides Solise ?
woven lichen
@calm nova if he can survive, try Lucius instead of Brutus for faction bonus
@high oyster can try estrilda instead of tasi for energy and attack boost... also faction bonus (fawkes would be better though)
ocean granite
who should i try to ascend first?
idle oriole
Thane melts everyone with his alt even shemira
woven lichen
@ocean granite don’t really have any heroes to ascend at the moment so legendary heroes are safe to ascend until you have enough of other heroes to fully ascend (4 elite+ copies)
harsh hound
Can anyone help me figure out a lineup for this bad boy? I've tried a couple of combinations and I always take a good dent of health out, but no dice on completion
Pls ignore the level 2 L Arden Im gonna sort out his situation at some point lmao
forest carbon
@harsh hound reset everyone else to level 100 and get saveas to 140
Arden
Talene
Tasi
Hogan
Saveas
harsh hound
Everyone? :o
scenic plaza
My current lineup is M Shemira L+ Estrilda M Nemora L+ Thane and M+ Belinda
Should I get M+ Estrilda Fawkes or Thane guys
idle oriole
Maybe save the food for now but I would do estrilda cos fawkes works at low ascensions and Thane isn't amazing yet
neat light
Still need help clearing 15-40
idle oriole
@neat light maybe swap shem and lyca or even try putting in a Brutus but that line up should work if u get the right rng @neat light
harsh hound
@forest carbon sorry if I sounded doubtful Im just new and wondering if it's normal to reset so much so early in the game 😮
forest carbon
You just want to make sure your carry ie saveas is ovrrlevellldd
Most of the time there's no other instance to reset. But it's normal in early game when you're getting new heroes all the time
solar bridge
I finally cleared it, @brave oriole @violet igloo . But without using you guys advice of outing Mirael, or replacing Saveas. Seems there are some tactics which could work too. But thanks anyway guys.
idle oriole
harsh hound
@forest carbon ooo! Ok! Tysm for explaining! :>
final meteor
Kings 317
gilded jewel
Help appreciated
winter matrix
@gilded jewel try
Saveas
Estrilda
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
gilded jewel
I think i just dont do enough dmg belinda e+ doin nothin
idle oriole
@gilded jewel dont stress about hard mode early game
winter matrix
You probably don't have the right relics, and it alright to lose a couple tomes before your first win
gilded jewel
Its not my first win @winter matrix i just cant beat wrizz like half of the time. My runes yesterday were insane and i clapped him today i thought they were alright but i guess not enough lol
idle oriole
Firebringer + Ice bringer
Poisonous embrace usually good enough
gilded jewel
i’ll probably just sac a lvl 1 and have him escape so i can finish
violet igloo
@solar bridge put Saveas 120, others lvl 90 and take out Mirael then.
upper raven
27-52; any help appreciated.
idle oriole
@stray hull #classic-questions
lavish pollen
@upper raven can you show all your heroes
wicked pelican
any tips for 24-14? 🤔
final meteor
@wicked pelican try switching nemora and tasi to charm seirus
summer wagon
Should I put Talene into Wrizz battle? And if so who should she replace?
lone maple
Anyone got 25-53?
odd python
@lone maple i hated that stage too haha
lone maple
Cheesed 25-44 with thoran then got stuck here 😭 lol ty btw I’ll give that a try!
odd python
wilder trio helped a lot for the end of 25 iirc, normally i run rowan safiya
@lone maple you could also try eironn carry (top half?) but i dont really use him so you might have to play around
deep pelican
lone maple
Passed it with this @odd python 🥰
odd python
nice
lone maple
Is 25-56 another thoran cheese? Lol I’m so close to chap 26 😭
tidal zodiac
I'm stuck
final meteor
25-44 wtf is this stage
final meteor
@pale kettle if you’re early game shemira
Seeing as you bought dust with the tokens, probably shemira
proud grove
Any way to pass
calm nova
Help
coarse hamlet
Sirius is a good combo with gwyneth right?
Any other heroes that are good with gwyneth?
still relic
@calm nova I was stuck on this yesterday. I think that you will need some higher level heroes to beat it. I used a l Rosaline to ult refresh my legendary lvl 140 Shemira and it worked.
Don't use Belind Frontline at all
idle oriole
@coarse hamlet hendrik
idle oriole
@calm nova
Arden
---lyca
Belinda
---rosaline
Nemora
forest carbon
@lunar monolith line ups good. You just need levels
idle oriole
@lunar monolith
Lyca
---Lucius/Brutus
Nemora
---Shem
Rosa/tasi
Just wait for rng that nem charms ferael
Yah 141 crystal gonna be tough to clear a more
lunar monolith
kinda stuck here. Not much I can do. Can invest a few more levels in rosa + brutus though
forest carbon
Get to 160 crystal and then get Shem to 200. Reset lucius back to 160
idle oriole
^
lunar monolith
reset lucius? 😮 just for the mats you mean?
forest carbon
Mats and xp. You want to overlevel your Shem by 20-40 levels. It makes a bigger difference than people think
lunar monolith
okay, one moment. oh, and thanks for the advice!
not enough exp -_- 5 lvls off - will be done by in a few hours or tomorrow - should be fine. Can you give a me a quick insight on why this makes a big difference, if shemira (or any hero) is overleved?
@forest carbon
forest carbon
Shem survives longer, deals more damage. Basically 1 Shem ult and everyone dies. @lunar monolith
I got to chapter 20 with Shem 200 and crystal at 160 with basically e+ heroes only
craggy talon
Brutal citadel 100, any advice
mild trail
What team should i be using
Feels like saevas doesn’t carry any more
sturdy thicket
idle oriole
@mild trail reset saveas and lyca to 140 then and level shemira
sturdy thicket
Everything Just dies so fast on my side
idle oriole
@sturdy thicket
Saveas
---Shem
Arden
---Tasi
Talene
Idk if it'll work my brains pretty fried rn but give it a try 🤷♂️
sturdy thicket
Estrilda Just shreds through my whole lineup
ebon patio
Hey I’m stuck on 7-8 if anyone can give me some tips
solar bridge
guys, im torn on who to ascend between Mirael and Belinda. So far Mirael has carried me well, and I've never tried if Belinda is good in my lineup or not. Don't wanna waste precious fodder.
@ebon patio I just cleared that map a few days ago. The problem is Arden. He will root 2 of ur guys, so they wont be doing much in battle which leads to easy cleanup by Estrilda.
My advice is level ur Grezhul more, or pick a much beefy tank than him.
Or u can try CC of ur own, ur line is pure def and dmg, lack of CC
@gutow, ur problem is u dont have a proper tank in ur lineup. Just because a hero is melee doesnt mean its a tank, wukong and talese are carries.
ebon patio
Ahh that’s what I was thinking I just wasn’t sure what other tank I have would be better but I’ll take that into consideration! Thanks for the help
graceful wind
solar bridge
@sturdy thicket ur problem is u dont have a proper tank in ur lineup. Just because a hero is melee doesnt mean its a tank. Wukong and Talese are both carries.
Maybe so far you've just tried to brute force your way through campaign, and now reached a wall that requures strategy.
Pick a proper tank for ur frontline and ur good.
idle oriole
@solar bridge don't ascend either until u can get them straight to L+
solar bridge
@woof, but their stats are truly lacking in my current progress. Is it okay to try Mirael, since she is easier to farm?
@idle oriole
idle oriole
It won't boost ur progress a lot so tbh I say just hold on to ur food for a little more
solar bridge
okay, got it. Thanks for the advice.
sweet crane
winter matrix
I would try
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Fawkes @idle oriole
graceful wind
Struggling with my lineup
dusty elk
What team should I get? And should I look for any mercenaries? I really really want this chapter to be finished
winter matrix
@graceful wind Reset everyone to 81 and get Saveas to 120.
He is a really strong carry.
Saveas
Lucius
Tasi
Eironn
Nemora
summer wagon
I am stuck at 15-34
Usually my team is: Shem, Talene and wilder trio
I've been playing around with brutus, belinda, athalia, arden, estrilda, rowan, hendrik, eironn, lucius...
Absolutely impossible
At some point my Shemira gets bursted by the entire enemy team unable to sustain it
winter matrix
Send ss of your heroes
graceful wind
@winter matrix i thought eirron was my carry
winter matrix
Eironn could carry, but Saveas will carry harder. Once you get Saveas to 120 get Eironn to 120 too. He is a dodge tank/carry
summer wagon
winter matrix
I would do
Tasi
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius/Brutus
Lyca
pale kettle
Stuck here... Can't get past Brutus... Any tips?
winter matrix
Send an ss of all your heroes @pale kettle
summer wagon
@winter matrix
Lucius gets oneshot as usual and brutus is not able to stall long enough with his invincibility...
Tasi dies shortly before she can ult, same for rowan
pale kettle
winter matrix
@summer wagon you might have to retry a lot
summer wagon
I think if they both can ult it could work
winter matrix
Saveas
Hogan
Lyca
Lucius
Lyca @pale kettle
pale kettle
Do you mean Nemora after Lucius?
mossy galleon
Help?
primal canopy
@brave oriole I dont know about this one lol
primal canopy
Rosaline might be too slow, maybe try fawkes instead of her? And athalia might prevent more damage across from isabelle
mossy galleon
Done
primal canopy
This is one of the levels where they just get too much damage too fast right
Another thing you could try is brutus frontline shemira back so she has more time to get started
pale kettle
Still no use
I don’t think it’s possible how I am rn, which is very annoying cause I’m 1 away from 5000
violet igloo
@pale kettle if I had a tip for you is to invest heavily in wilders, it's less ressource intense than LB and it's really strong. Especially that right now you only have an E Rowan.
@pale kettle with what you have right now, have you tried :
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi ?
sudden sparrow
Wilders OP, CC is meta in this game
pale kettle
sudden sparrow
Is that 15-40?
pale kettle
I don’t have them leveled tho
sudden sparrow
Level them up then
stoic pebble
Hi! I am stuck at 12-28! 😅 and what should I be focusing on
pale kettle
This?
sudden sparrow
Tasi
Shemira
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
pale kettle
Lyca is an E
vital oak
Which should i pick for main team?
sudden sparrow
@pale kettle supports don't need high ascension level
violet igloo
@pale kettle wilders are the strongest class in mid game and one of the strongest in late game. You can never go wrong if you focus wilders
sudden sparrow
@stoic pebble Reset everyone and level them up to 140 and get Saveas to lv. 160, then Lucius if you can and try this:
Rosaline
Brutus
Arden
Lucius
Saveas
violet igloo
@vital oak before I give you your comp here is an important tip : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. The best plan is to not ascend A tier heros past E+ until you have 8 copies of them. The exception to this rule is Shemira because you can buy her from Lab store she will take over as your main carry DPS when she reaches level 161, and also Saveas + Mirael because they are carries pre-160.
You have lots of hereos that are stuck at L tier, because you're missing copies. This means that you invested fodder into them and you're halting your progression a little bit because it's best to spend fodder on a hero once you know you can put them to L+
stoic pebble
@sudden sparrow ah okay! Thanks! I will try
violet igloo
That being said, reset all your heroes except Saveas, and put him level 130 and others lvl 90. Ideally you want him lvl 140 and others lvl 100.
Then you can do :
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Wukong
Lyca
vital oak
Thanks for the advice @violet igloo
violet igloo
👍
pale kettle
Yeah that didn’t work at all
violet igloo
I would suggest you focus on wilder heroes so that you can get Tasi and Lyca to L+
sudden sparrow
Did Nemora charm Ferael? @pale kettle
If not then keep trying until she does
That's 15-40 in a nutshell, make Ferael fuck his team up untill your Shem Ults
violet igloo
@pale kettle did you try my comp ? But brutus in there not Arden, + you need Arden to be lvl 141 before you can use him with efficiency because he roots 3 ennemies at lvl 141
pale kettle
What formation is best? Or should I level up then differently. Actually I think that’s the best I can do
sudden sparrow
Should look like than so Nemora charms Fera
sudden sparrow
Idk, Nemora charming Ferael and Tasi vanishing him should do it in a couple of tries
final meteor
Any ideas 25-44
mossy galleon
Help
mossy galleon
@pale kettle 1 sec before smashing phone
craggy talon
Any thoughts?
final meteor
@craggy talon ascended khasos was how I did it; too much healing
brave oriole
@pale kettle put dura's grace on shem
craggy talon
@final meteor What other heroes did you use?
pale kettle
It’s already on
brave oriole
what stage it is? @pale kettle
stoic pebble
@sudden sparrow Thanks! it worked!
final meteor
Prob like L safiya M+ Brutus E+ antandra and E+ vurk lol
pale kettle
15-40
brave oriole
ah, trio Wilders suck, use rowan rosa if have any
final meteor
Ok that’s crazy my team dies in 10s for 25-44
pale kettle
LETS GOOOO!!!!
sudden sparrow
@stoic pebble np, you can use Saveas as carry until you get Shemira to lv.161 (180)
stoic pebble
Is there any recommended line up around saveas? now i am stuck at 12-33 feels like my unit just dies..
sudden sparrow
Just protect him and use more CC heroes
stoic pebble
Cant seems to clear this now 😅 do
subtle crow
i have enough fodder to build 3 E+ LB fodder. Should I wait to build another L+ LB fodder or should I ascend Belinda?
(my savaes is Lvl160 and the rest are 120.
sudden sparrow
Arden
Brutus
Rosaline
Lucius
Saveas
Have you tried that @stoic pebble
stoic pebble
@sudden sparrow Tried.. my lucius dies almost immediately
sudden sparrow
@subtle crow don't ascend heroes until you have enough copies to get them to L+
stoic pebble
maybe cause my arden is only rare+
sudden sparrow
@stoic pebble Lucius should have Grace on him for extra HP
subtle crow
@sudden sparrow I can buy one from challenger store
stoic pebble
yup hes holding onto Grace.
sudden sparrow
I used this team on my alt and it's working out just fine:
Saveas
Lucius/Brutus
Rowan/Nemora
Brutus/Lucius
Arden @stoic pebble
You should focus Shemira instead (if you're F2P or low spender) @subtle crow
subtle crow
@sudden sparrow yea. That's my plan too. My problem is I have a lot of LB fodder but not sure who to give it to.
And I could progress if I can break the level cap. I have a lot of hero essence saved up.
pseudo cedar
Can you guys offer me some help on 21-44?
sudden sparrow
Wait until you have enough Rowan dupes for Mythic. Lucius is also a good option. @subtle crow
subtle crow
Cool. Got it. Thanks!
pseudo cedar
damn, i only have shem and brutus
sudden sparrow
I think E+ or even E Wilder trio will work. You'll just need to retry a lot @pseudo cedar
pseudo cedar
Alright
sudden sparrow
Artifacts:
Nemora/Drape
Brutus/Eye or blade
Lyca/Grace
Tasi/Call
Shemira/Blade or Eye @pseudo cedar
stoic pebble
This is what happens 😂 think cause of my unit/item not enough
sudden sparrow
Try switching Lucius and Brutus
weary cobalt
is there anything i can do to make this stage?
sudden sparrow
@stoic pebble wait untill you get 141 crystal then and try again.
@sweet crane Who does Fawkes coffin?
stoic pebble
@sudden sparrow Alright Thanks for all the help though!! 😄
sweet crane
@sudden sparrow so thats an interesting question, he coffins brutus, but sometimes (not always) coffins the top mage, im still not sure why
sudden sparrow
weary cobalt
@stoic pebble remove brutus and nemora put saveas front and rosa any blinda in
rosa and blinda
spare girder
🌚 I need some help please not sure where to go with this
sweet crane
@sudden sparrow so if i put lucius vs brutus he coffins brutus, and brutus vs brutus he coffins the mage, my thought was the my brutus roar debuff makes it so that the mage has the highest rating but he coffins before the brutus roars so...
edit: nvm now with lucius vs brutus he coffin the mage
sudden sparrow
Which gets you closer, Brutus vs Brutus or Lucius vs Brutus? @sweet crane
scenic verge
Should I change my lineup? I’m on 7-24 and just summoned Talene
scenic verge
But I’m working on level 141 Bel
sweet crane
@sudden sparrow closer to winning? none tbh the frontline gets destroyed always, i had better chances with lucius top with fawkes coffins brutus so that i can melt the top mage but even so, brutus dies and shortly after lucius also dies
spare girder
@sudden sparrow thanks but I'm 100% my line up won't last that long because of lower ascensions even though I'm running mostly T1 gear.
scenic verge
Talene with Arden, Estrilda, Bel, Fawkes, and Hogan could not beat the boss on 7-24
sudden sparrow
Reset Kaz and level Belinda up to 220 and try with 220 crystal @spare girder
scenic verge
and Talene died, she should come back to life every time since she does not die
sudden sparrow
@sweet crane Try using Arden instead of Fawkes
spare girder
Hohoho I'll see
sweet crane
@sudden sparrow worth to 141 arden or just do it as is?
sudden sparrow
141 Arden gets 3rd root so ye
sweet crane
i got 33k dust, pooling for when i get my last shemira copy to put her str8 in mythic
scenic verge
I’m not sure why Talene didn’t resurrect she is not suppose to die
sweet crane
@sudden sparrow any sugestions (with arden instead of fawkes now)
sudden sparrow
@scenic verge is her 3rd skill unlocked?
Grace on Brutus and see if he survives any longer @sweet crane
sweet crane
arden not casting roots :)))))))
delicate trout
24-56 any tips?
sudden sparrow
@sweet crane put Grace on him mirroring Golus and hope he dodges his first attack
sweet crane
in the front line?
sudden sparrow
Yup, Grace should give him some Dodge points
sweet crane
should i replace brutus with a backliner then?
drifting root
Any idea?
pale kettle
24-14 not sure what I should do
delicate trout
whoaa i just passed that a minute ago, look at my line up, just change shemi with beli, and it should be easy @drifting root
drifting root
Ty ahaha
sudden sparrow
@delicate trout I think that one was either a cheese or I probably used:
Nemora
Shemira/Tasi
Lyca
Thoran
Tasi/Shemira (My level did most of the trick so you'll need to try a couple of times).
Nemora had Call and Tasi had Eye equipped
sweet crane
nope, not working out, also tried replacing brutus with fawkes
delicate trout
i'll try it, hope lyca could haste up before athalia jump to her, thanks @sudden sparrow
sudden sparrow
I'm pretty sure 140 is enough but can you get 160 crystal? @sweet crane
sweet crane
got 11M xp
man if fawkes coffins brutus its just so much better but idk why its so rare for it to happen
sudden sparrow
At least 141 for skill buffs
sweet crane
kk
tawny jewel
spare girder
That didn't help 😣 I got one shot
So I went back and came very close with a diff team... Now it's just RNG
sudden sparrow
Try:
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi
Shemira/Ferael @tawny jewel Charm Thane and kill him before he Ults
tawny jewel
@sudden sparrow ?? I have 3 farael copies and i dont use shem
sweet crane
got it! changed the frontline to saveas and arden bot with fawkes top
sudden sparrow
You have A* Shem
tawny jewel
@sudden sparrow she falls off dude. Belinda is better
sudden sparrow
Bruh
tawny jewel
My belinda has 100k more power than her
sudden sparrow
Just use her, she falling off after 240 crystal doesn't mean she becomes absolute shit 
delicate trout
@sudden sparrow thanks dude, your recipe is working 100%
sudden sparrow
Np
sweet crane
this lineup now is kicking butt af
scenic verge
The lineup I usually run is Bel, Mir, Arden, Estrilda, Hogan, but I switched out Talene for Mir
because I thought Talene could not die and she would carry me through every battle
sudden sparrow
I assume Talene works as your Healer
scenic verge
I like Arden for his roots ult, Bel for her damage ult, and Mir for her ult, but Talene would be my healer
But Talene couldn't stay alive past 7-24 and the boss wiped her out
sand rune
Mauler 178. Anyone have some suggestions?
sudden sparrow
In case you need a 24-60 line-up @delicate trout
@sand rune Have you tried:
Safiya
Numisu/Khasos
Warek
Brutus
Khasos/Numisu
?
final meteor
Best comp I have for 25-44 and I can only kill saveas and get skreg to 30%
fringe mural
Suggestions?
sudden sparrow
Ferael/Athalia
Brutus/Lucius
Nemora
Lucius/Brutus
Khasos/Shemira
@final meteor if that doesn't work
cinder crag
And nemora needs to charm safiya %100
fringe mural
Can someone check mine out ^^
cinder crag
Any ideas for this one ?
final meteor
@cinder crag ah yes, my belinda is M+ and fawkes E 
sudden sparrow
I'd probably use regular meta with Ferael instead of Shem ad try to charm either Seirus or Arden, both do an initial 3 hero CC
cinder crag
@sudden sparrow Thing is fera literally does not deal enough damage and thing is I need Burst damage
sudden sparrow
Also, I'd try using Grez instead of Brutus
cinder crag
@final meteor Maybe getting Merc Rowan or Lucius will work better ?
sudden sparrow
Nemora/Ferael
Grezhul/Tasi
Lyca
Tasi/Grezhul
Ferael/Nemora
cinder crag
@sudden sparrow That would work if I had good Wilders :(
sudden sparrow
Merc Tasi, Lyca wouldn't do much
final meteor
@cinder crag i was thinking merc belinda, but no mercs for this week rip
sudden sparrow
Nvm, you already used campaign merc
cinder crag
Too bad I used my Merc lol but thing is this is closest I got with this comp so maybe Merc Lucius will work
final meteor
lucius dies 2hits in 25-44
cinder crag
Rowan then and you gotta hope Fawkes dodges @final meteor
cinder crag
Fawkes should be using coffin on Brutus .
Basically it should be down to just safiya and Brutus and with Fawkes using coffin on Brutus again leaving safiya alone and when you burst down safiya you time your Fawkes ult and defeat the lone brutus @final meteor
Requires heavy RNG though sadly
sweet crane
@sudden sparrow guess who came back to haunt me
cinder crag
He will ; his ult allow belinda to burst down everything
And you need to charm Safiya %100 and Brutus should in coffin
patent forum
Need some help on this. Not sure who to prioritize. I can ascend Brutus but was gonna hold off until I can get a more common hero to use as fodder
cinder crag
@final meteor Btw in case you win it ; you will probably need this one too
final meteor
idk dude, brutus 1 shots rowan before safiya gets charmed
actually its saveas that 1 shots him
final meteor
oh god... thats A LOT of retrying
cinder crag
As far as I remember Rowan dodges the hit or becomes immune to it then you can win
And yeah 25-48 is a nightmare incarnate good luck
final meteor
even when he dodges and safiya charmed, lyca still gets coffined
cinder crag
Interesting I have no idea
@final meteor Maybe try with higher crystal level but idk if it's possible with 250 ish levels
final meteor
25-48 looks easier cuz i have eironn lol
winter matrix
Buy Shemira until you have her A, then go for Nemora
sudden sparrow
Buy/Pull 6 Shems and then go for Nemora (The game eventually gives you 2 free Shem dupes) @umbral whale. Also that belongs to #classic-questions
winter matrix
Get Belinda to lvl 61 as soon as you get her. She is really good with her ult and Blessing ability
rough goblet
Help
winter matrix
Try
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Fawkes
frail garnet
What formation should I use and who should I focus on leveling on? Also who is temporary and who am I looking for as a replacement?
novel adder
@scenic verge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/676847461695750154/image0.png
send the stage you are stuck at too
scenic verge
I'm stuck at 7-24
winter matrix
Focus on buying Shemira from lab store and get her to lvl 161+ asap. For now I would get all your heroes to lvl 80 and then Shemira to 120.
Ferael
Hogan
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline @frail garnet
Send a picture of the stage @scenic verge
delicate trout
@sudden sparrow i've tried this line up for 50+ times dude, that athalia is f'up as usual, any other option or the artifact line up?
novel adder
@scenic verge send a screen of 7-24.. like the ones other people in the channel are doing
sudden sparrow
I sent one @delicate trout
winter matrix
Belinda
Estrilda/Talene
Mirael
Hogan
Fawkes @scenic verge
delicate trout
i use the one u send dude
scenic verge
so using talene in that lineup is wrong for this stage or just a bad idea?
winter matrix
Try using Estrilda and Talene
delicate trout
p
sudden sparrow
The artifacts on the SS I tagged you on should be:
Ferael/Eye
Tasi/Call
Lyca/Grace
Brutus/Chalice
Nemora/Drape
delicate trout
ok i'll try it
scenic verge
How do you use two heroes in one spot?
winter matrix
Try 1 battle with Estrilda and 1 battle with Talene
scenic verge
@winter matrix That makes sense. I'll give that a try
winter matrix
@patent forum I'd do
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Estrilda/Lucius(if you have him)
Belinda
sudden sparrow
@delicate trout Try until you kill both Athalia and Thane before they Ult (CC the living poop outta them) or kill one and hope your heroes Dodge the other's Ult
patent forum
@winter matrix that enemy saveas is blowing up my Brutus 😭
delicate trout
still trying dude, the problem is my tasi is too fragile, seems like i need A* tasi
sudden sparrow
I was at 24-52 for like a month so my level by the time i decided to push obviously helped a lot
delicate trout
yup, seems like i need to farm, but that last dude could reach same point with me, with just 2.5m power, i have 3m+ and can't do shit, this is make me angry 
sudden sparrow
Probs a koyuki alt 
delicate trout
k seems like i need to take a break till my friend lend me his tasi, thanks dude
nvm, i did it, you are the BEST dude @sudden sparrow
sudden sparrow
Gz, you can use that team from now on, except for the occasional Thoran cheese/replacing Brutus with Grezhul @delicate trout
delicate trout
i see dude, thanks a lot 
ornate heart
Very early in the game (5-16) Progression has been awesome
Wanted advice on who to keep / replace for an early game team.
Just nabbed Shemira today
winter matrix
First off, only level your top 5.
Go to the Rickety Cart and reset Estrilda, Ulmus, Mirael, Hogan and Silvina. Then pour those resources in your top 5.
After that you can put the heroes you reset in the Resonating Crystal.
For now I would focus on building a Saveas and getting him as high as you can.
For a lineup you can do
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Eironn
Safiya @ornate heart
restive tundra
Anything i can do against this? 14-33 and the Faction disadvantage is Ridiculous
Silvina jumps mehira and she fails to ult even once. I really need early cc but tasi is too weak and delayed aswell
@winter matrix Father pay heed to this pleb
ornate heart
@winter matrix
Thanks! Those random levels were from people I had used while progressing a little bit. The top 5 I currently have are pretty recent editions
Lots of love ❤❤❤
winter matrix
Does Lucius survive long enough for ult? @restive tundra
restive tundra
Yes, Lucius is the last to die, But only by Talene's grace
winter matrix
So if you replace Talene for Brutus Lucius dies?
restive tundra
I need Belinda's double ult on grez to wipe that trio and it'll be good,But can't seem to make that
I'll checc
winter matrix
If you need double ults one Belinda try putting Call on Rosaline, so she boosts quicker
Np @ornate heart
primal canopy
Eye could help Belinda build meter faster too
restive tundra
@winter matrix
Brutus/Lucius live for their ult
Mehira dies even quicker
Rosa/Belinda doesn't get to ult and Everyone gets wiped out as soon as Brutus falls and/or Shemira/Isabella ult
winter matrix
Not yet, use Skreg and Wukong to tank
thin sonnet
Ah ok
sweet rune
Rowan M, Rosaline M or Lucius M+?? Only one
winter matrix
Send ss of your heroes
brave oriole
slender echo
Any ideas? Think Kaz? The assassin one is giving me grief, she just turns immune to Saveas attacks and then destroys him
pale kettle
Take tasi out and take lucius @slender echo that's what I would try
slender echo
OK, thanks
brave oriole
you need a mage dps, try safiya
final meteor
25-46 😂
ornate totem
Too ander leveled or no??
gloomy coral
any tips?
ornate totem
@gloomy coral try arden instead of belinda and Brutus instead of luciud
viscid pasture
@ornate totem Start with swapping Rosa and Faweks places, let me know what happens now
ornate totem
@viscid pasture nothing athalia just kills rowan chages up and gg even lucius ult is usilles
gloomy coral
no bonus if i do that @ornate totem aint working
ornate totem
@gloomy coral try still
viscid pasture
You might need to move Shem to back line, both Warek and Seirus are good at interrupting things, which shem does not appeciate. Rosa pretty much needs to be in that spot because Athalia kills anything else stood there more often than not, unless you want to try putting Brutus or Thoran in there
ornate totem
@viscid pasture can try bought cos have them A
@viscid pasture no shem is just so trash in chapter 23 need A belinba fast
warm pawn
hard stuck. any help or gotta afk for the win ? x)
i got 640k hero xp in the bag to spend
(also tried maxing on saveas, didn't work out)
pine fulcrum
@warm pawn maybe try hendrick/hogan front farael/baden/shemira backline
could also try to put shemira in front
warm pawn
i'l try that before 🙂
pine fulcrum
i would put her on the bottom front position tho because lyca might be a big problem
warm pawn
yea that's what i was thinking about
lapis plover
Is this lineup ok?
pine fulcrum
@lapis plover if the enemies are bursting you down yes otherwise it might be better to replace brutus with rowan if you have one
lapis plover
He's only epic and brutus is almost ascended, i have these
warm pawn
i get destroyed, thinking about letting things happend, getting afk a bit :3
harsh hound
I got a new slot on the resonating Crystal; any thoughts?
pine fulcrum
rowan does not suffer to much from low ascention since his abilitys deal flat % values just put him in the middle of back line and he should be fine although for that specific stage he might not work because of silvina @lapis plover
lapis plover
@pine fulcrum she 1 hits my rosa even, would i pyt rosa front, then rowan in back?
I'm up to 20-34 and it has 500k power more than me
Might just need to wait or play until rng works
pine fulcrum
@lapis plover she jumps on the person with the lowest defence rating or smthing so she is probably going to choose rowan. while he will block the first hit he will probably die really fast afterwards so i am not sure if this is going to work
lapis plover
So the thing is fawkes is strongest so i could drop rosa for him and give it a try
I dont need 2 ults from fawkes
pine fulcrum
@lapis plover The idea would be rosa/shemira front lucius/rowan/fawkes back with lucius standing on rosa side or lucius/shemira front rosa/rowan/fawkes back with rosa standing behind shemira
@lapis plover Thats what a lot of people use for arena too
pine fulcrum
@harsh hound I would probably choose lyca but dunno
lapis plover
I'll try tmrw
harsh hound
I was torn between lyca and eironn actually!
Definitely need to beef up my wilders...
pine fulcrum
eironn is good but dps needs the levels lyca has lots of utility with her haste
lapis plover
@pine fulcrum thanks for the help
pine fulcrum
@lapis plover np hope it works out
lapis plover
Can only hope
strange plaza
Any suggestions?
pine fulcrum
@strange plaza what have u tried so far?
harsh hound
I'll go with lyca for now in that case @pine fulcrum ! Tysm!! QuQ
strange plaza
@pine fulcrum I’ve tried a bunch of comps, won’t be able to remember the specifics. Like I’ve included shemira and Brutus/Lucius in all of them
And then tried wilders, mix of wilders (like Lyca/nemore + Rowan + tasi)
warm fox
brave oriole
@warm foxcomplicated stage, maybe remove Rosa and find something better for this stage? lyca eironn even nemora can work
violet igloo
@warm fox have you tried
Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Grezhul/Lyca/Nemora/Brutus
pine fulcrum
@strange plaza maybe try a shemira + light comp with rowan+
strange plaza
Okay, I’ll fidget around a bit more.
lament birch
Khasos instantly kills the 1-3rd
floral onyx
Any suggestions or recommended level to beat this one?
primal canopy
@lament birch did you try putting athalia front row across from khasos
brave oriole
@lament birch fawk would coffin him
warm pawn
getting destroyed here... am i doing it wrong?
(ye that's early game :3 just started last week and have like 4 accounts chap 5/6/7, i'm dumb)
o nevermind destroyed them araging another way... how did i get stuck there for 2hrs xD
still relic
You should level up your Shemira as much as possible as she is your carry. If she has good enough gear and is high enough level, put Nemora in back and replace with Shemira. Feel free to correct me.
Or you could use Grezhul because of faction bonus
mossy galleon
Any help?.. Got twins.. Solise.. Shemira
pale kettle
I need some help for my team
solar bridge
Hello guys, is Baden any good? He reminds me alot of Phantom Lancer from Dota. He has a badass image and sound effects too.
odd python
@solar bridge go to #classic-questions for general questions
lone grail
white birch
Halp on 20-60??
rotund copper
Need help on 16-36
rough quartz
swift sparrow
help pls
sweet crane
could i get a sugested demonic entity lineup? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/676978118895992868/unknown.png
brave oriole
demonic? well, i would go full lb demonic team. make bel 160, Lucius, both front middle rowan up down fawk Rosa
and that is, demonic team
sweet crane
yeah sorry looking for advice, not memes
atomic marten
@swift sparrow If Arden is the issue, try Athalia opposite. Even just Epic tier she can carry the hell out of ya
brave oriole
@sweet cranefirst try, then we can talk more
sweet crane
yeah.. no. i asked a suggestion with the heroes i currently have at the levels they are 🙂
brave oriole
well, they are wrong. I mean Lucius m, instead of Belinda as carry, is a mistake. saveas it's expired already at your current heroes
atomic marten
Bel Rowan Lucius Rosa makes a great comp. You need a last frontliner. Focus on Bel then Rowan
brave oriole
last front liner is fawk/arden/mehira/safiya
final meteor
25-50
atomic marten
Uhhh not sure about Saf. Tried it and wasn't convinced.
brave oriole
well, she's good, plus for a few sec she boosts attack/def of Backline, at his. lvl is very helpful
ashen schooner
atomic marten
Mehira Brutus or Nem look like better options to me.
brave oriole
there's. no stronger team than lb +shem. till chap 23+. the reason is that fawk Rosa rowan, can be used even as elite Backline if your front line is iron. any other faction would require higher ascensions
lament sparrow
Any help for this? Been stuck on it for days with fail
brave oriole
well, @lament sparrow I wouldn't lvl all the heroes, my advice is to reset em to lvl 80,and lvl one till 120.keeo this gap between your Carry and the rest as much you can. now, cuz you have a Rosa, you can use. maybe shemira as carry, maybe it will work good. you got 2 tanks already so try to replace Belinda with something useful, fawk or nemora rowan if you have. other way it's to use Belinda as carry, and keep shem for later..
brittle summit
Stuck on this stage in wilder tower
brave oriole
@brittle summitrrly? you are overlvled lol.
I would put eironn on tasi. place, and replace the water dude with Nemora. ulmus can tank Brutus up, so tasi down nemora. middle
ofc, you need the right dura's also. eye on eironn, call on tasi, chalice nemora and so on
golden bobcat
What should I change ?
golden bobcat
What is LB :v ?
low sable
lightbearers
jagged mural
Lightbearer
low sable
Also Golus is a real pain. He's not that bad now but he will be
Another tip @golden bobcat Only level your top 5 heroes. Reset your other heroes
golden bobcat
Yes, I know, Hogan, Mirael and IraI I leveled because I needed 😂🙏🏼
low sable
Put them in crystal. Because you'll have more XP for the heroes you will eventually need
Dust will become a big problem later on so you want those levels on your powerful heroes
golden bobcat