lineup-help

[still rune]

Oh yeah sorry, thanks, I did forgot about the crystal lmao

[violet igloo]

@meager sedge gratz 👌 with Nemora Vs Arden you're always gonna have to do many tries

[meager sedge]

Nah not cuz of that... It was gorvo oneshotting nem, dreaf killing nem/athalia or tasi inting i won with all 5 alive an 2 secs left on the clock look at that healing etc xD

@violet igloo

[final meteor]

25-8

[meager sedge]

@final meteor the thoran might work for you (didnt work for me but worked for some other ppl) and the 2nd setup is the one that worked for me

[violet igloo]

@meager sedge 👌 naisu. Nemora is underrated

[modest lintel]

25-48.. anyone have any guidance

[shadow meteor]

if my lineup is currently
belinda
Lucius
Rowan
lyca
rosaline
would it be more beneficial dmg wise to reset belinda(l+) and level up saveas instead?(just got him l+)

[pliant rampart]

Not a big deal, but what can I do? I already tried Fawkes/nara

[proud grove]

Should I use shemira or ezizh?

[violet igloo]

@proud grove Shemira is much stronger than Ezizh early game, she is your DPS carry. However don't ascend other heroes to Legendary unless you can put them L+

@proud grove keep buying Shemira in lab and keep all your Graveborn fodder for Shemira. So that when she's L+ u can put her Mythic. Reset Belinda and out Shemira 140 and others 120 :

Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda

@pliant rampart reset heroes to lvl 100 and put Belinda lvl 140 :

Rosa
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Estrilda

[shadow meteor]

is rosaline more effective than nemora in a belinda/saveas, lucius, lyca and rowan lineup?

[violet igloo]

@shadow meteor with Belinda, Rosa is more useful. In a Saveas comp, Nemora better.

[shadow meteor]

thanks

[empty pulsar]

Any suggestions for this PoT?

[limber silo]

Need ascension confirmation in regards to Lucias. My plan is to hold on to my e+ Hogans to bump up lucias to L in the long run. Is it worth it to wait?

[meager sedge]

@limber silo wait until you have 4 Lucius before ascending him to legendary. That is the general rule of thumb for ascended tier heroes (unless u can buy them from lab shop). Read the guides in the pinned messages in #classic-questions :) that will give you some insight on why to do that

[violet igloo]

@limber silo as Agoros said keep your fodder, it's best to ascend only if you can get the hero to L+ straight away. The only exception is Shemira, and Mirael, Saveas

[final meteor]

@meager sedge

[pale kettle]

Help with beating

[plush patrol]

Need help with this stage. Any suggestions?

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle usually when Shemira is overleveled, the goal is to put her frontline for her to get ult faster.

With that in mind maybe try :

Rosa
Shemira
Belinda
Lucius
Fawkes

Does Fawkes coffin Brutus?

Another set up could be

Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Gorvo

Heroes are less ascended but if Nemora can charm ennemy Brutus you have a chance

[still grotto]

Help pls 😩

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle keep trying until Lucius ults 👌

[pale kettle]

Lucius gets wiped ...

[subtle talon]

My best try? What can I change?

[violet igloo]

@lament sparrow put Mirael level 70 and other heroes level 40. Then play :

Rosa
Brutus
Mirael
Hogan
Safiya

@subtle talon try switching Belinda and Rosaline position

[pale kettle]

Ayyyyy I won

[subtle talon]

@violet igloo ok ty 🙂

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle gratz 👍 ☺️

[empty pulsar]

@violet igloo any tips to dealing with thoran for PoT?

[violet igloo]

@empty pulsar u gonna need them wilder heroes 👌 except Tasi because CC doesn't work on them. I think I remember using a Lucius? 🤔

[empty pulsar]

Hmmm. I'll see if I can move stuff around. I assume arden wont work here for anything, and grez needs to die first?

[violet igloo]

Arden won't work either. You need heals / shields and not use cc/stun heroes

[empty pulsar]

@violet igloo I only have Lyca nemora tasi for anything E+ or higher haha... guess I can't do it for now.

[violet igloo]

Brutus is well I think is not bad to soak damage while backline does pew pew

@lament sparrow I answered you, please see above 👍

[lament sparrow]

Oh ty paddy

[sturdy thicket]

Im kinda Stuck on 6_4

[empty pulsar]

@violet igloo it won't slow me down any not clearing it for a while. Just the last camp. I don't have anyone for it really.

[violet igloo]

@empty pulsar iirc that PoT is harder than others, I know it took me more than a few tries

Back in the day a long time ago. GL @empty pulsar and gn I'm signing off see you tomorrow if you have any questions 👍

[empty pulsar]

Have a good night! It's my last camp so no big deal

[sturdy thicket]

I know im kinda newb

[harsh copper]

Help pls

[gilded jewel]

Suggestions for hard mode wrizz lineup?

[raw turret]

swap arden for estrilda and rayn for tasi maybe @harsh copper

swap tasi for lucius @gilded jewel i cant really see ur units tho

[gilded jewel]

@raw turret

@raw turret

[raw turret]

Yeah IMO tasi for lucius is probably your best best

[calm nova]

Help

[ocean granite]

stuck here 😦 any tips?

[pale kettle]

Need lineup for 25-46 please

[odd python]

@pale kettle do you have safiya or athalia leveled?

[pale kettle]

Yes, athalia at mystic

@odd python

[odd python]

you could try this and swap safiya for another carry (ferael?)

[pale kettle]

Hmm what about talene?

[odd python]

oh wait lol i just realised theres talene, im not too sure who can sub in for her

[pale kettle]

Haha it’s ok. But wow safiya as carry

[odd python]

swap brutus for rowan and play around dodge and cc with ferael carry

[pale kettle]

Ok gonna try it again now. Might run fawkes just to see if it works

[odd python]

if you move rowan frontline top he may be able to survive if tasi banishes shem (does she?), if so you can use his ult to interrupt shem ult animation later, as well as tasi ult

could try it as
ferael
rowan
lyca
tasi
nemora
@pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Yup tasi banishes Shem. Gonna try this lineup now. Thanks!

Wow managed to cleared it by 2 tries. Thanks!! @odd python

[odd python]

np😁

[scenic frost]

Pls help LB 120 I need the 18 blues so bad

[slim comet]

Hi guys, I’m going to be stuck with a 120 team soon. Anything I can do or do i just be patient? I can’t really take anyone from E+ to L+ besides lucius

[odd python]

@slim comet you can use hogan and 1 mirael to get another mirael to L, and then the third mirael to get to L+, shes perfectly fine as an early game carry and usable as fodder later

[slim comet]

Ty @odd python ill give it a shot

[novel adder]

@scenic frost try
rosaline
Belinda
rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
and see if belinda can survive over many tries if she can live she might generate faster energy.. otherwise swap her position with rosaline.

@polar current if you have alternate carry options like eironn ferael you should give them a try.. i'd try maybe
belinda
rowan
athalia
Lucius
fawkes
or you can try fawkes in athalia's position to rng for dodges.. that would be probably swapping rosa for fawkes in your current setup

@idle oriole standard
tasi
shem
lyca
Brut
nemora
should work provided tasi survives the silvina jump and blinks. otherwise try rosaline instead of belinda in what you have right now

@harsh copper you dont really have too many options atm.. i would try
swap arden for estrilda.. and try with arden instead of tasi.. you have to charm saveas and mirael must avoid ankhira cocoon

[idle oriole]

@novel adder ty will give it a shot

[final meteor]

25-10 please

[scenic frost]

@novel adder ty for the help finally got a run where safiya ult didnt crit and one shot my belinda

[novel adder]

@final meteor im not so well versed in eironn comps yet but you can try
nemora
Lucius
tasi/fawkes
lyca
Eironn
key things are to charm safiya.. kill thane before he ults if possible.. you can also consider your own safiya somewhere

[feral agate]

Help

[still oar]

@feral agate

https://youtu.be/FNYta2ABgRc

[ornate totem]

Need help!!

[winter matrix]

Try replacing Fawkes with Lyca and Athalia with Nemora, so she charms Arden and he roots his team

[ornate totem]

@winter matrix I have no good Wilders my lyca and nemora are bout e+

[slender echo]

Is this my best line up? Tryin to raise my crystal level, but not sure if I should be doing that or pushing Rowan to 120?

[meager sedge]

You can try Lucius instead of skreg he does quite well with rowan

[violet igloo]

Hi @slender echo, you did good by coming here to ask before ascending. So before you get all your heroes lvl 160, Saveas is an amazing carry DPS and he works wonders when he's overleveled. You have the fodder to get him to L, however it would be optimal to keep your other Saveas E+ copy. Do you have another Golus copy? Then here's the plan : put Saveas lvl 130 and others lvl 90

Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Hogan
Lucius/Estrilda

[slender echo]

I haven't got another Golus yet, I've been hoping for a few of him because I heard he was terrible and was going to try and get a second to feed to Saveas

I have an e+, an E and 2r Goli, lol

I'm also 11 coins away from my next crystal slot to put in Lucius or Estrilda

But I don't know how/if we can farm them

[violet igloo]

@slender echo you could put Saveas Legendary right now, but you're so close to getting the 2nd E+ Golus that I would wait. You'd be able to put Saveas L+ and that would be a HUGE boost to your power. The goal is to put Saveas 30/40 levels higher than other heroes

I have to congratulate you on not rushing and not ascending any hero to L, did you read a few guides before? Patience is rewarding in this game 👌

[slender echo]

I read somewhere not to go to L unless you can go straight to L+, that's why I haven't ascended Saveas yet

[violet igloo]

There you go ! Others including myself try to explain to players the best we can to not make this small mistake in order to optimize fodder and hero progression

[slender echo]

I have a tendency to rush gacha games and burn out, trying to take it easy this time, lol. I think today I get my Belinda reward too

[violet igloo]

Good to hear. Keep your Belinda at E+ for the moment, Saveas is stronger pre lvl 160

[slender echo]

I'm finding this game better as sometimes the daily grind on most gachas just takes so long to stay competitive

[violet igloo]

This game is very well designed, it's true to its name aswell

@slender echo I suppose you have read the plan after 160? Keep buying Shemira in lab and keep all GB fodder for her.

[calm nova]

Help

[slender echo]

Yeah, I've read some people complaining that she isn't that great a carry but I have a copy of her and halfway to another, then there's a free one at Chapt 15

[vale wasp]

@ornate totem if that's 22-50, I've completed it yesterday with
Nemora (A)
Shemira (A)
Fawkes (L)
Lyca (A)
Tasi (E+)

[sturdy thicket]

Im kinda Stuck at 6_4

And im newbie

[pale kettle]

a screenshot of the enemy team would be helpful @sturdy thicket

place Nemora across either enemy Bel or Morvus and try to charm them
you could also go afk and get your Belinda overleveled, and the rest of your team at level 100 @calm nova

[ocean granite]

is this there anyway to clear this with my current lineup? or is the a btr lineup, stuck here for abit now

[pale kettle]

Belinda won't work properly at the front, switch her and Brutus' places. Try swapping Lucius and Thane's positions too, and hope that he cranks out his shield before he dies@ocean granite

[pale kettle]

You might want to replace Tasi and Safiya with other heroes for now, they're not the best heroes to rely on early game. You could try Estrilda, Grezhul, or Izold.

If you're willing to, go AFK for a while, level up your heroes, and try to build Saveas to a much more desirable ascension level. He'll perform his best and will carry you for a good chunk of your early game progress when he's at least 20 levels above the rest of your team @sturdy thicket

[sturdy thicket]

Thank you i'll try to afk

What Levels should i aim for?

[pale kettle]

just a few levels above the current enemy team would be fine

though if you want to play the long game and breeze through a chapter or two, you'll have to go AFK for a few days, try to level your main team up to 100 - except for Saveas, who should be at least 20 levels above your team. Ascend him to at least Elite+ and you should be able to get him up past 100

[novel adder]

@calm nova do you have a crystal slot?
if you do maybe try something like
Belinda
Lucius
Mirael
Brutus
nemora
but if you have to wait for mirael, you can just try with arden.. or
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora
Hogan
Brutus

@ocean granite try
saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Thane..
you can swap around the 2 tanks and see which works better..

[plush patrol]

Need some help with this. Any suggestions?

[novel adder]

@plush patrol have u tried arden?
arden
shem
lyca
brut
tasi/nemora
restart everytime shem gets targeted by ankhira cocoon

[violet igloo]

^ what Sorrowin said + Nemora has to charm ennemy Brutus and not die to Khasos axe. You could potentially place Lyca bottom so that the can attempt to dodge Khasos axe but I'm not sure at E+ if she has enough dodge

[plush patrol]

Hmph still can’t get it working

[topaz sandal]

Need some help with this...

[violet igloo]

You got to keep trying until you get a bit lucky and align all spells perfectly @plush patrol it's normal that it takes some time !

[violet igloo]

@topaz sandal can you post your hero box ?

[topaz sandal]

K

I really like eirronn idk if he's worth it tho

[violet igloo]

@topaz sandal you need 1 more Golus and you can make Saveas Legendary then bump him up to level 140, then you'll be able to pass that stage easily. In the mean time you can try :

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Twins

Since you are capped by levels because your leveled heroes are only 3, reset them and instead level some random E+ heroes so that you can get past lvl 100.

When you start openening more heroes and get more E+, we can have a look at how your comp can evolve

[topaz sandal]

E+?

@violet igloo and thank you for your time and effort😀 👍

[violet igloo]

@topaz sandal E+ is Elite +, the step after Elite. Your Saveas is Elite +

[topaz sandal]

@violet igloo I was wondering...thanks will do

[ornate totem]

Need help!!

[pale kettle]

Good comp?

[vale wasp]

@ornate totem if that's 22-50, I've completed it yesterday with
Nemora (A)
Shemira (A)
Fawkes (L)
Lyca (A)
Tasi (E+)

@pale kettle
I'd reset saveas and put lvl in Shemira, then Brutus
after, you can try wilder trio + shemira + brutus

[pale kettle]

But lucius then hes m

[fathom estuary]

@pale kettle I'd go with Shemira and Lucius frontline, Nemora, Lyca and Twins backline. But that's just me.

I'd also reset Saveas to 141 and get Belinda to 141. Then pump levels into Shemira, then Lucius,

With this Shemira level and Mythic Lucius you should be able to push to Chap 15 with ease, maybe 16-17.

[graceful wind]

Tips?

[storm terrace]

22-8 help

[idle oriole]

@storm terrace maybe tasi for nemora

[plucky hazel]

Can you please suggest a good optimal lineup for me? :)

[winter matrix]

Saveas
Grezhul
Rowan
Izold
Shemira/Fawkes

[plucky hazel]

Thanks ^^

[strange mango]

should I push shemira or Bellinda once Brutus hit 120?

[winter matrix]

Shemira. Then get her straight to M and 180. She will really carry you to ch25+ at lvl 161+

Also reset Isabella and Antandra, and then lvl up Brutus.
Only level your top 5 heroes

[mortal flax]

This feels a bit unfair @17-36

[worthy island]

24-36 need help

[winter matrix]

Lyca
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Nemora

Reset until Nemora charms arden and then he'll root his team.
Also don't let enemy Nemora charm your Shemira @mortal flax

[empty pulsar]

Still stuck here...lucius explodes

[winter matrix]

You can try replacing Rosaline with Saveas or Tasi

[empty pulsar]

@winter matrix me or Ach?

[winter matrix]

You

[mortal flax]

@winter matrix nah they just heal it and destroy all the things

[winter matrix]

Or try Nemora at Rosalines spot so she charms Saveas @empty pulsar

[empty pulsar]

@winter matrix closer, but the golus still destroys lucius...lucius is only in L gear. Can't get better drops haha

[compact flume]

Any help?

[winter matrix]

It might take a bit of retrying @empty pulsar

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Fawkes @compact flume

[empty pulsar]

@winter matrix I can kill the top 2 with Belinda, but lucius gets 1-2 shot. Saveas gets at least 1 attack @ 123k and lucius has just over 160k. Haha

[winter matrix]

Replace Lucius for Brutus?

[solar bridge]

Need some help regarding lineup and who should I focus on.

[empty pulsar]

@winter matrix never pulled one

[fair iron]

help plz 22-60...im so desperade

[winter matrix]

Focus on Shemira and Saveas. Buy Shemira from lab store ever chance you get. At lvl 161+ she is an insane carry
Also only level your top 5 so go to the Rickety Cart and reset Hogan
For lineup you can do

Shemira
Lucius
Lyca
Hendrik
Saveas @solar bridge

[limpid quail]

@fair iron try with
arden
shemira
lyca
lucius
nemora

[winter meteor]

Need some help on this one...

[solar bridge]

@winter matrix but saveas is only a rare hero, he has lower level cap right? If i focus on him then wont i waste the resource later on?

[idle oriole]

He is good until chapter 13 @solar bridge

[solar bridge]

ok, thanks for all the tips, much appreciated

[pale kettle]

a random guess but try this formation @winter meteor

Nara
   Lucius
Rowan
   Rosaline
Shemira

[winter matrix]

Try replacing Arden for Rosaline and see if she survives to give Shemira a second ult @winter meteor

[fair iron]

@limpid quail was very bad :S

[winter meteor]

@pale kettle i'll try that.. thanks.
@winter matrix tried that, unfortunately didn't go as well
this one i'm struggling and the last boss is just cancer, full wilder team

Lucius is supposed to tank but dies SO fast, even with full leg+ equipment and health relic

[winter matrix]

@idle oriole Rosaline instead of Belinda. You already have Shem carry, so you can switch Belinda.

[winter meteor]

and silvina focusing either Rowan or Rosa and killing those in 4 seconds makes it worse

[idle oriole]

@winter matrix will try it thx

[winter matrix]

See if Rosaline survives to get Shems 2nd ult

[empty pulsar]

@winter matrix guess I'll probably need to borrow a brutus merc for this one then. Tomorrow...

[winter meteor]

what artifact on shemira, health or energy one

[fair iron]

any other idea

[violet igloo]

@winter meteor at your progression put the ult one, dura's call

[winter meteor]

yeah I have the sword but I guess ult is better

[fair iron]

plz help

[winter meteor]

@pale kettle rosa dies way too fast lmao

[dark juniper]

@fair iron use nemora she will charm arden

[empty pulsar]

@fair iron this is like your 3rd post with the same thing...

[dark juniper]

Instead of estrilda

[violet igloo]

@fair iron try :

Rowan
Estrilda
Lyca
Shemira
Lucius

Lyca needs to dodge Athalia at beginning of battle

[abstract shuttle]

Stuck on 25-24 any advice would be appreciated!

[upper jungle]

Stuck on 9-34 any tips or lineup suggestions would be appreciated

[winter matrix]

Get Shemira to 140 and then crystal to 120.

Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi/Nemora

[violet igloo]

@abstract shuttle Did you continue to buy Shemira in Lab after you got her ascended ? You need to stop buying a hero in the lab when that hero is ascended already. You should buy Nemora so that she can be ascended. Try and target Ferael too if you can, he's super powerful and will replace shemira.

I guess you can try

Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Lyca

or maybe

Shemira
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

[abstract shuttle]

So ascended Nemora from shop and not get Arthur? Thank you!

[compact flume]

ferael from shop?

[violet igloo]

unfortunately you can't buy ferael in shop. Make sure he's in your whishlist 👍

[winter matrix]

Get Arthur when you have everyone else at A. Arthur takes 240k, and thatd better spent on other heroes if you don't have them at A already

[compact flume]

Even late game still makes sense to buy some shem from shop no?

yes you also want nemora but she doesn't gain as much from the extra stats and if you use shem as carry

[abstract shuttle]

I got 25-24

[winter matrix]

@compact flume No, its better to buy other heroes. Going for stars isn't ideal as they're only a 2,5% stat boost

[fresh jay]

23-10 merc open

[torn spire]

19-38

[violet igloo]

@fresh jay

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Rosa

[torn spire]

I keep losing almost instantly, even though my friend said this is "the perfect formation for rushing through chapters until 21st since ascension doesn't matter until then" as long as Shemira is "white", and Tasi is great for CC, and instead of Arden I could use Nemora but I don't have her :c

[violet igloo]

@torn spire I would suggest if you have faction scrolls to open use them on Wilder. Stop ascending Kaz and Numisu, focus on Brutus instead for the mauler side.

[torn spire]

I have her on loan currently but I need to wait until next week since this week I already used a mercenary

@violet igloo Alright thanks. I keep getting Lightbearers and low-tier Maulers from normal pulls. From faction pulls I wanted Shem but end up getting other heroes, Ascended Shem I could get because of the labyrinth event.

[violet igloo]

@torn spire don't use faction scrolls to pull shemira since you can get her from Lab Store

It's a good idea to use it either on LB or on Wilder, and with your current focus on Shemira i would strongly recommend you use them on wilder heroes. Also you can read the guide pinned in this channel written by V.

[torn spire]

Sounds reasonable, yeah. If I manage to get through Chapter 19 I get like, 20 faction scrolls and Numisu. But for that I need to actually finish Chapter 19

[winter matrix]

Try

Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Lucius
Tasi

Nemora will charm Arden and he'll root his team @torn spire

[spice trench]

Hi I was told I should ask this here: In my labyrinth there is an all Wilder stage with Nemora, Tasi, Ulmus, Gorvo and Lyca. They can't kill me but I can't kill them either because of the excessive healing and tankiness and then the time runs out and I lose. Should I just leave it and miss out on the rewards or is there a way to beat them?

[polar current]

@novel adder have tried that, athalia gets her ult up really quick and just wipes the whole team. Lucius dies before shield and rowan gets 2 hit. I dont have eironn upgraded, i do have a ferael at 1 star but not sure if that really works out

[winter matrix]

@spice trench send an ss of your heroes and the stage

[spice trench]

My main heroes are dead already tho lol but I'll send an ss of the stage

[winter matrix]

Just send an ss of your heroes page

[violet igloo]

@spice trench how many dura's tear do you have ?

[spice trench]

4

[novel adder]

@polar current try
ferael
lyca
athalia
tasi
nemora
lyca to dodge athalia.. 1 star is fine.. my total accumulation of stars in my roster is less than 2 of your heroes XD. but i would say +10 or +20 fera sig would be really nice. lyca 20 too

[violet igloo]

okay. It might be useful to use one of them since your main heroes are dead. Reset heroes to level 100 and put Gwyneth level 140. Then you can try :

Nemora
Gwyneth
Tasi
Ogi
Twins/Lyca

Nemora is really good in lab since she can heal your heroes.

and keep buying Shemira in Lab

[torn spire]

@winter matrix I don't have Nemora. And can't use the one on loan

At least not now...

[spice trench]

Alright I'll try that, thank you man!

[winter matrix]

@torn spire well tommorow is reset so if you think you can beat it with that wait till tommorow

[violet igloo]

@spice trench no worries, good luck ! 🙂

[polar current]

@novel adder they dont have the sigs levelled, just barely unlocked. Athalia kills the top 2 in the first 5 seconds xD

[vale wasp]

@fair iron : succeeded yesterday with this comp after a lot of retries and much luck
22-60

[torn spire]

Ye I know. A lotta people say I gotta be patient and the game is called AFK for a reason, take things slowly, but it's just me being impatient xD

[novel adder]

@polar current you have to rng it.. the idea is that lyca goes on a dodge streak... that takes some tries.

[polar current]

ah

[novel adder]

its not that uncommon though.. especially with celerity branch 5

[polar current]

ill keep trying until i get tilted again lmao xD

i have celerity at 15 ^.^

[novel adder]

@polar current keep at it. youre close.. i dont remember 60 to be the hardest thing in 26.. so i believe you've already overcome the hardest parts

[polar current]

There was one other stage i struggled with i think, but so far the setup for this has been ridiculously hard, i always struggle with athalias as a mainly LB team. Threw up all the gear on lyca to T1 now but so far not a single dodge

[novel adder]

remember to put grace

[spice trench]

@violet igloo I beat it! I used quite some damage dealers this time and I could break through their healing

[violet igloo]

gratz. Remember to keep nemora in your team so that you she can heal all your team so that you don't have to use Dura's tears

[spice trench]

Yeah I always do but they all died because the timer ran out in that fight haha

[pale kettle]

I think I just need to keep leveling but anything else I can try? 14-28

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle can you post your hero box ?

@pale kettle Do you continue to buy Shemira in lab store ? I suggest you do that she will carry you up until chapter 24. You mustn't use Belinda and Saveas at same time, you only need 1 dps. Try

Rosa
Belinda
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca/Nemora

Ideally you'd want a Tasi too

[naive crown]

20-34

[pale kettle]

Unfortunately I started buying nemora copies first from lab but now I’m buying shemira copies.

[winter matrix]

@naive crown

Fawkes
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda

[naive crown]

I’ll try that

[primal quarry]

Even with my maxed out sav i cant get through this stage

[idle oriole]

Not getting any luck.. Tried switching around duras relics or whatever but it didn't work either.. What would I need to beat this? Better tasi?

[naive crown]

Worked first try, thanks

[winter matrix]

You can try

Tasi
Shemira
Rowan
Lyca
Rosaline @idle oriole

I think Tasi banishes the enemy tasi at that stage

[idle oriole]

Ok will try ty

Eh no luck.. My heroes are too weak for that comp.. Even if shem ults the tree just heals everyone too fast

[polar current]

@novel adder even if everyone survives long enoigh to get 1 ult off they do like no damage and die right after. Might need to throw in more damage

[naive crown]

20-39 now, wilders are pain

[tall lava]

Yeah go athalia. You need an end game dps

[lunar monolith]

sweet, thanks for the advice. I'm currently working on getting my last 3 quarters of ARthur - maybe back to shemira then to ascend her

[primal canopy]

damn you're goin for arthur

wait you already have ascended shemira @lunar monolith what do you mean

[lunar monolith]

I'm not going to invest 104€ for arthur.
@primal canopy (i meant going for 1-star / 2-star ...) is there another word for it? I'm not that familiar with the words for that ^^

[primal canopy]

ascend other heroes before you go for stars

[lunar monolith]

Okay, in that case I'm trying to get lucius / rosa up next

[primal canopy]

back me up here @tall lava and help me talk him out of arthur

[lunar monolith]

already bought the first 15 though 😐 lol

[primal canopy]

actually i don't know if arthur is secretly really good midgame or something, but i'm not too much ahead of you and the main thing that slowed me down other than exp and dust was just getting 5 guys at high enough ascension so i could keep going past the level cap

arthur doesn't help with that at all, but i guess also you're a pretty long way away from that since you are going to be stuck on hero exp for a while

[lunar monolith]

i guess so. As I said, I'm not that veteran of the game like I used to be in OPTC or so. I ask questions here every now and then, since the communtiy is quite nice and usually provide good tips without being asses. If you say you wouldn't suggest arthur, i'll invest in other things first

[primal canopy]

some other people migh have a different opinion, for me like i said i'm just a little bit ahead of you and i checked out arthur when he came out and for me, it made more sense to go with one of the other heroes just to prepare for getting to level 240 crystal

[lunar monolith]

yea, I think i know what you mean. Oh well, its still a few K anyway. could also invest in belinda if she comes out (in the challenger-store)

[dark juniper]

Need some help with this

[tall lava]

Im back

Arthur is a good tank, but not before 240 res or right at. You can abuse him much later on with ferael/ gwyn

[dire bay]

What's the best hero's I can use rn? And should I ascend anyone?

[torn spire]

The Dismal Descent

[median crag]

23-10 help please

[torn spire]

The guide says I should use two dmg carries but I only have shem really

I don't have Eironn

Here's all I have basically

[grave current]

what should be my 3 line up for challenger tournament

[torn spire]

And yeah I just got Nemora and Ulmus from the faction scroll pull

[graceful wind]

Belinda reset and lvl shemira?

[torn spire]

Probably. Shem is the best damage carry imo

After lvl 161 she really starts shining a bit

Cause of her self-heal she has a bit more sustain.

[obsidian kindle]

Need help improving my second team, who is good to use with eironn together? I also have a lot of gb and lb heroes ascended .

[torn spire]

Dunno, I don't have him

[graceful wind]

Team comp?

[dark juniper]

Shem rowan rosa a tank and random for faction bonus

[winter matrix]

Shemira
Estrilda
Rowan
Brutus
Belinda

[winter drum]

What should I be focusing here

I'm on chapter 16

[winter matrix]

Keep buying Shemira from lab store and get her to A asap

[violet igloo]

I would try and open more copies of Lyca / Tasi I think. And as soon as you get another Brutus copy, feed saveas into him

[winter drum]

I already have 2 e+ copies of her. actually my question was what to focus other than her I am kinda confused

I would try and open more copies of Lyca / Tasi I think. And as soon as you get another Brutus copy, feed saveas into him
@violet igloo I was using my faction scrolls on lb maybe I should use them for wilders yeah

[winter matrix]

Wilder trio with Shemira is really strong

[violet igloo]

it's super strong 👌

[winter drum]

I gues it doesn't really matter for wilders to have high ascension level in that comp as they are just supports for shemira right?

[winter matrix]

Its definantely better to have higher ascencions on them, but they work at E+/L+

[dire bay]

Team comp?

[robust forum]

Any thoughts for getting through this floor of Mauler Tower?

[winter matrix]

Hol' up now even Paddy has a purple name

[modest lintel]

Need some help on 25-48.. thanks in advance

[violet igloo]

@dire bay as said earlier put all xp in Shemira. It would be interesting for you to open more wilder heroes to get Tasi/Lyca. Right now tho you can do :

Rosa
Shemira
Lucius
Brutus
Belinda/Wukong

[hazy comet]

Stuck 13:31 any help?

[idle oriole]

Post the stage.. @hazy comet

[hazy comet]

Maybe its just a matter of levelling but want that sweet reward for chapter 13 clear 😉

[idle oriole]

@hazy comet u could take thoran out for Rosa

Also stop making unnecessary legendaries because ur gonna get stuck on ascension as ur using up all ur fodder

[hazy comet]

Yeah i made mistakes

I think they all just die too quick 😦 guess time to level up and play wating game

[idle oriole]

@hazy comet try and break the lvl 141 cap so Arden gets his triple root ability.. Then u can run

Arden
---Brutus/Lucius
Nemora
---Shemira
Lyca

[hazy comet]

Hmm could try that

[rain oriole]

@idle oriole do you have all your heroes ults charged up, you could use
Rowan/Tasi
Lucius
Mehira
Shemira
Rosaline
Just stack Shem ults and cc chain with Mehira and tasi before the lucius' can get their shields off

[idle oriole]

I don't but I'll try it out

[limber silo]

Someone give me some tough love because I am super tempted to get savveas to L+ but everything I read says to not use ascended tier heros to upgrade 😩

[rain oriole]

Yep you don't want to be using those heroes as fodder, just wait it out, you get quite alot of summons early on so you should get it pretty quickly, atleast you aren't level capped

[limber silo]

Blah! I'm just stuck in both the tower and campaign lol. I'll probably get what I need by the time I even everybody out.

Am I correct by maxing Lucias next?

[rain oriole]

Yh but at E he can only go to lvl 100, might have to switch him with an E+ hero once you reach lvl cap, @limber silo

[honest python]

Any suggestions on lineups that I can pull off ?

[winter matrix]

If you hadn't used so much fodder on L heroes you could've had M+ Belinda by now.

Belinda
Estrilda
Rowan
Brutus
Ferael/Rosaline

[violet igloo]

@honest python as cwonk said try to be conservative with your fodder. Only use it when you can get a hero to L+, because now you have invested fodder on many heroes that are "stuck" in Legendary

[sweet crane]

Fawkes steals khasos

[winter matrix]

@sweet crane

Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes/Arden

[honest python]

Cheers guys much appreciated ❤️ ❤️

[violet igloo]

@sweet crane do you have enough dust for Arden 141 ? Put him to 141 so he'll root 3 ennemies instead of 2 👍 then

Arden
Lucius
Rowan/Rosa
Brutus
Saveas

You'll want to place Brutus in front of that Khasos and hope that Arden roots Mirael long enough to not make her ult

@honest python don't hesitate to ask more questions if you need help 👌

[leaden dagger]

Im not that experienced just wanted to ask if this is already the best lineup i can make also wanted to know what units i should focus to upgrade.

[winter matrix]

Focus on Shemira. Buy her from lab store until you have 8 copies of her.
I suggest you reset your crystal to 120 and get Belinda to ghe highest lvl you can.
Always keep your carry 20-40 levels above the rest of your team

[robust forum]

Stuck on Mauler Tower, any advice? Thanks

[timid sparrow]

Any idea how i can improve my lineup?

[sweet crane]

@violet igloo got dust but no xp xD also almost had it

[violet igloo]

@sweet crane keep trying your close

Hi @timid sparrow, can you post a screenshot of your hero box?

[timid sparrow]

Yup :)

[winter matrix]

I'd reset Grezhul and get Belinda to 140. Also get your crystal to 120 after that.

Belinda
Lucius
Gorvo
Brutus
Arden @timid sparrow

[violet igloo]

@timid sparrow first tip : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. The best plan is to not ascend A tier heros past E+ until you have 8 copies of them. The exception to this rule is Shemira because you can buy her from Lab store she will take over as your main carry DPS when she reaches level 161, and also Saveas + Mirael because they are carries pre-160.

[sweet crane]

Got it!

[violet igloo]

@timid sparrow you have ascended Belinda very far, and you have seemlingly random Legendary heroes, it's important to plan on what hero you will use in the future. I recommend you read the guide pinned in this channel written by V.

[timid sparrow]

Ok,thanks.

[violet igloo]

That being said with the comp you have right now you can put Belinda lvl 150 and others lvl 110

Estrilda
Belinda
Skriath
Lucius
Brutus

Or

Grezhul
Belinda
Izold
Lucius
Silvina

[pale kettle]

I'm looking for line up assistance. I'm currently stuck in story 9-33

[timid sparrow]

The second lineup worked! Thanks @violet igloo

[winter matrix]

@pale kettle Focus on buying Shemira from lab store until you have 8 copies of her.

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Wukong
Nemora/Arden

[pale kettle]

@winter matrix thank you so much! I'll work on buying more copies of her.

[winter matrix]

For now Belinda will be your carry, but when Shemira hits lvl 161+ she will take over and Belinda can be switched for a support hero like Lyca/Tasi/Nemora

[pale kettle]

@winter matrix thank you! That actually helped me get passed where I was stuck at in the story!

[half silo]

Stuck at 9-12 and floor 119
Any tips for my formation?

[hazy bolt]

Im having trouble with 15-36. Enemy backline deals too much damage too fast and khasos shreds my middle backline:

    Isabella

Brutus
Khasos
Vedan
Niru

[violet igloo]

@United gratz, I suggest you only buy Shemira in lab and read the guide in pins

[limber silo]

@rain oriole may just go back into Hogan then

[honest python]

Is this lady any good or is she aight to use as fodder

[pale kettle]

#classic-questions @honest python

[plush patrol]

Still stuck at this. Any ideas? Also what artifacts you recommend I use on each of those?

[fading bramble]

Im super early game and got a lot of mixed signals on how to smartly play building up. Should i not be making characters legendary? And focus on not wasting fodder for characters that i wont use end game? Or should i just get any good tier chsracter legendary and keep progressing?

[idle oriole]

No don't make unnecessary legendaries @fading bramble

[fading bramble]

but how do I know whats unneccessary and whats not? Tier lists change is the tier list for end game all that matters?

[median crag]

Help with 23-10

[idle oriole]

@fading bramble the main thing is to only make them legendary if u can get them straight to L+.. Also try looking at some yt videos for more tips

[fading bramble]

any recommended people on YT?

theres 1000 vids lol rather just get a straight answer here if possible too

[dark current]

Well...it's better to look at ppl who are at high chapter like 27-28

[idle oriole]

Volkin is the main one I watch

[fading bramble]

yea, followed some begginers guides from Volkin. But, I just dont get also why everyone says dont go Legendary unless you can go L+? Why does it matter, isnt a tier boost a tier boost? whats the difference between L and L+ a week later or so? Or is it to only boost characters that you can go that high and prioritize those?...feel really confused

[idle oriole]

I've had my nara at L for around 6months lmao.. It's rlly just about saving fodder for carry units like shemira or belinda and maybe ur support units like nemora/tasi etc

[fading bramble]

welp lol

and fodder is just anyone whose not Ascending tier?

[idle oriole]

Yes never use A tier heroes as food

[pale kettle]

The only exceptions for that rule are legendary-tier heroes (Mirael, Golus, Ira, Niru, etc.), and the ones that's on your wishlist/you're certain that you receive often

[fading bramble]

Are those good L tier heros?

[pale kettle]

Nope, just giving some examples

[idle oriole]

Arden is useful tho

[pale kettle]

But if you're looking specifically for that, here are some decent L-tier heroes: Mirael, Arden, Saveas, Silvina

[fading bramble]

ahh, well i just want to know what to use as fodder and what people would laugh at me for for using LOL

[zinc stump]

@fading bramble better discussion for #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

If you're intending to break level caps as soon as possible, focus on ascending and spending your resources on L-tier heroes for now. They're easier to obtain than A-tier heroes. Put other heroes you still wish to use on the crystal, so they can still benefit on the skill upgrades past their ascension level limit. One benefit of this is you'd be able to get an A-tier hero or two straight to Mythic or even Mythic+ later on because you already have the food ready @fading bramble

[limpid pumice]

Help making lineup

[tiny birch]

Maybe

Shem
=> Izhold
Rosa
=> Thoran
Nem / Twins

There may be better setups but that's what I'd do in your box @limpid pumice

[winter matrix]

@limpid pumice

Belinda
Hogan
Twins
Shemira
Fawkes

[tiny birch]

@winter matrix why 2 carries at that stage? Not criticizing, just wondering for myself

[winter matrix]

He doesn't really have an op support to use, also in early game you won't need a lot of healing, you'll need DPS to kill the enemies as soon as possible

[tiny birch]

So this is my box right now, what would be the best lineup here? I have one working okay but I’m getting stuck around 10-31

[winter matrix]

@tiny birch I suggest you reset Ira and lvl up Saveas. At lvl 160 he is very strong. Then you can do

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Talene/Rosaline

[tiny birch]

@winter matrix so I've thought of that, but another told me rosa is bad with Saveas and good with Ira so I was suggested to switch due to that, is Sav just better than Ira at this point?

This is what I had

[winter matrix]

You can switch Ira for Saveas and Rosaline for Belinda to boost Saveas' power.
Also if Talene isn't surviving for long, switch her for Brutus

[tiny birch]

Hm, sounds fair, should I try to get Sav to 160, or push Belinda/Sav to 140 together, then push Sav as far as he can go with that comp @winter matrix ?

[hushed lance]

25-44. Any idea how to survive the initial onslaught? 🙂

[plush patrol]

Any help? ;x

[violet igloo]

@hushed lance your comp is quite good, LB faction advantage vs maulers. If you switch Rosa and Fawkes, does she die?

@plush patrol on paper your comp is good aswell, you need to retry until Ankhira doesn't put her web on Shemira, Nemora charms Brutus and that Khasos is amongst the 3 that get rooted

[cinder crag]

Any ideas? This is just painful

[plush patrol]

@violet igloo had that happen a couple of times but still seem to get my shemira overwhelmed when the team gets wiped. think I just need more power on shem, or maybe switch artifacts?

[violet igloo]

@plush patrol Shem needs blade or Dura's call

[plush patrol]

Haven’t unlocked blade yet, having some trouble in vipers marsh. Was using eye, ill try call

[violet igloo]

@cinder crag maybe try

Brutus
Shemira
Nemora
Grezhul
Ferael

[cinder crag]

@violet igloo I don't think there is a suitable Target for charm ; charm Tasi I suppose?

[amber kestrel]

Stage 26-28, I think this might be the way to go but am awfully tired so will retry spam later

[ebon patio]

I’m on 6-12 and stuck anyone have any ideas on what I should do

[pale kettle]

do you have a pic of the enemy team? @ebon patio

[ebon patio]

Yeah

[pale kettle]

Try this formation @ebon patio

Belinda
   Hogan
Rowan
   Estrilda
Skriath

[zinc stump]

@ebon patio swap silvina for Rowan and put him back middle. Put Bel front with Hogan. Dump some levels into bel

[violet igloo]

@cinder crag Nemora is for sustain and because many GB on ennemy team. If you see that your heroes are all dead when she ults, swap with Rowan

[cinder crag]

Tried both ; neither works @violet igloo Shem is practically useless as expected and Athalia is too much to handle usually one ult kills 2/3 heroes instantly without dodge

[ebon patio]

@pale kettle thanks man it worked 😂

And @zinc stump I’ll look into that thanks too

[pale kettle]

good to know! 👍

[zinc stump]

@cinder crag have you tried putting Alathia against herself and run Fearal+W or an LB setup?

[violet igloo]

@cinder crag the thing is, it's very hard to build a team with your Ascended heroes. You have neither LB support backline or wilder Trio. I'm building around Ferael, Shemira is there for Faction bonus and because she'll have more HP than an M hero. Try replacing Thoran with her

[cinder crag]

@zinc stump My Wilders are practically useless as they are Elite+ ; tried lb but doesn't work either

[violet igloo]

You're missing Lucius for LB to work properly aswell. What's ur Lucius at?

[cinder crag]

@violet igloo It's actually fairly easy estrilda Grezhul Shem fera and Rowan was working so far so you are kinda wrong

@violet igloo could get to almost two stars but lack fodder

[zinc stump]

And arden root opening doesnt help I suppose?

[violet igloo]

It's working but it's not the most optimal 🤷‍♂️

What chap stage is this?

[amber kestrel]

Oops

[cinder crag]

@violet igloo You do realize you don't always get what you want don't you ? I have been a bit unlucky with support pulls from Wilders And I am trying my best to get to most out of my heroes...

@zinc stump haven't tried but realistically silvina will one shot him before he even roots

@violet igloo 25-48

[amber kestrel]

If you can borrow Safiya it’ll probably work out nicely. She does much better on athalia stages than Shem does, and in general she’s just better.

[violet igloo]

If your Wilders are E+ it means that you decided to not focus Wilders with Faction scrolls which is the most consistent way to progress in campaign, up to a certain point. You were unlucky in your pulls since you have no Lucius and he is the foundation of LB + Fera... If you're F2P it gets tough around chap 25. The very good news is that you have Ferael +20, you need to build around that however Shemira doesn't add much to this comp. You need to continue opening pulls

[cinder crag]

@violet igloo I disagree with the Wilder statement simply because lb core is in my opinion much more effective but other than that I have enough for 1 star Lucius and need like 2 lyca /3 Tasi for A . Fera works quite good only reason why I use Shem is because of cc and aoe though I must admit she is kinda bad at this point ( as expected) and yeah I am f2p

[violet igloo]

So all you're missing is fodder for Lucius?

Ferael
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

will work

There's other comps that will work too

[cinder crag]

Will work with Lucius Merc

What's your stance on using Thane and Raine as fodder ? Against never using A heroes for food structure @violet igloo Cuz from what I saw Thane falls off and Raine is basically downgraded Rosa

[violet igloo]

@cinder crag Thane and Raine are currently bottom tier heroes, especially in LB compared to new heroes like Rosa, Rowan,... Is it power creep? Possibly. That being said it's far from impossible that Raine or Thane will never be buffed... So in the long run it's best to keep them, unless maybe you're level capped and it s the o my way to unlock things to not be stuck for 1 month

Raine can be useful in some niche comps vs guild bosses

[main dragon]

Any advice on this stage? The enemy Saveas just demolishes me

[split peak]

U just need to lvl ur stuff up honestly

[rain oriole]

@main dragon try Tasi/Fawkes instead of Belinda and use Brutus in place of Lucius if he is dying too fast, you can try Nemora on the bottom to charm the Saveas,

[wintry raven]

Any help?

[rain oriole]

@wintry raven try
Nara
Belinda
Rowan
Grez
Rosaline/Fawkes

[split peak]

Grazul nara belinda rosa shemira

[wintry raven]

@rain oriole thanks that worked wonders

[wintry raven]

Help?

[brave oriole]

let me see, give me a stage pic face to face, I can make. a plan easier😂

@wintry raven

[primal canopy]

Did you try the nemora Lyca thing to make Arden root his own team

[wintry raven]

@primal canopy it gets close but luscious gets his shield up just in time to stop Athalia from dying

[brave oriole]

you need arden down

[wintry raven]

@primal canopy it worked eventually thanks a lot

[brave oriole]

what team have you tried so far? vs Lucius can be rowan, up bel and Rosa back, middle Brutus, and arden down

[pale kettle]

Anyone has ss for 25-48? This lineup doesn’t seem to work for me

[lament sparrow]

Just got gwyneth should I change my line up?

[still oar]

@pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Thanks! @still oar

[primal quarry]

Can anyone help me fet through this?

[violet igloo]

Hi @primal quarry your comp is actually already really nice and your heroes ascencion and fodder usage it top notch, it's really nice to see early game accounts like yours.

Have you tried swapping Brutus & Saveas positionning ? Have you tried reseting Arden and putting Shemira 160 instead ?

[pale kettle]

Hey I'm stuck on level 7-20 I was wondering if I could get some help on my line up

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle put Mirael level 120 and other heroes level 80.

Estrilda
Hogan
Mirael
Gorvo
Tasi

[open apex]

Any suggestions? Been swapping and switching heroes for days, the amount of cc and damage they have is so high

[violet igloo]

What happens if you do :

Athalia
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Nemora

If nemora can charm arden/ferael it can turn the battle around.

[solar bridge]

hello guys, week old player here.

who should i focus on?

[ebon patio]

Hey I’m stuck on 6-28 this is my line up rn if anyone can give me any pointers

[wintry raven]

@ebon patio honestly at the lower stages it just takes time and leveling up to progress

[drifting root]

Any idea? Stuck since forever

[zealous ledge]

How do i move on from here, which should be my main 5?

[limpid pumice]

What should my lineup be?

[pale kettle]

Try to get Saveas to L+ and overlevel him. He'll be a reliable carry throughout your early game progress. Other than that, your hero choices seems fine @solar bridge

Level-wise, your main 5 should always be your highest ascension-leveled heroes. Focus on getting both Shem and Lucius to Mythic+ first, so you only have to worry about getting more copies of them.

Stop ascending heroes to Legendary unless you can take them straight to Legendary+, you're digging yourself a deep hole that'll be difficult to get out of later on. You better have them on your wishlist, or you'll get them stuck on that state for a while.

Lineup-wise, Shem, Rowan, and Lucius should always be on your team. If you have a Rosaline, you could pair her with Shem as well. Get Shem up to max level before spending it on everyone else @zealous ledge

You could try this lineup @limpid pumice:

Hogan/Izold/Lucius and Rosaline at the front,
Shemira, Mirael/Lucius, and Fawkes on the back

make sure Rosaline is close to Shem

[zinc stump]

@limpid pumice try Bel, Rosa, Luc, Raine, Fawks for lineup. Bel and Rosa are your front row

Keep building L tier fodder until you get the 8 copies of non shop heros before spending fodder.

[green saddle]

Do you guys see some way around it?

[gritty sail]

Help please!

[still oar]

Swap lyca and shemira's post and try Arden for tasi @gritty sail

[zealous ledge]

@pale kettle thanks alot

[zinc stump]

@green saddle Rosa in place of saveas and Bel into front row with her. Also Bel to 161 even if you cant 180 her

[rocky scaffold]

Can someone please provide some advice for this one? Can't seem to figure it out (Forsaken Necropolis 70)

[gilded jewel]

Any ideas?

[primal quarry]

Hi @primal quarry your comp is actually already really nice and your heroes ascencion and fodder usage it top notch, it's really nice to see early game accounts like yours.

Have you tried swapping Brutus & Saveas positionning ? Have you tried reseting Arden and putting Shemira 160 instead ?

Aight ill try @violet igloo

[still oar]

Try Belinda

Estrilda
Rowan
Luc
Shemira (snake dude)
You can't cc wrizz so buffs and debuffs are better @gilded jewel

[gilded jewel]

@still oar ill try it and i just threw the top peeps in so everyone could see

[high oyster]

Is this an okay team to start with

[slender echo]

Is Skriath ever any good or is he worth feeding to Saveas so I can L+ him?

[gilded jewel]

never feed ascended

also he is useful higher up i think hes a tier

@slender echo

[primal quarry]

Aight ill try @violet igloo
Wait wdym by resetting arden i dont have him levelled, i only put him in the crystal, also tried swapping positions didnt work. Do you mean resetting sav so i can get shem to lvl 160? @violet igloo

[floral onyx]

Skriath buffs team crit and his vortex effect combos well with different troops like Ezizh, Wukong

Maulers don’t really have CC so he’s got potential for Mauler tower too

@gilded jewel Wrizz is immune to CC so try to use your lightbearers since they’ll get a faction bonus against him. Rowan will get better after you can upgrade him to 121 so he can restock health potions (but keep in mind that he cannot use them himself)

[slender echo]

@gilded jewel ok, thanks! Just waiting on 1 mauler to feed Saveas for L+, lol.... Got a golus a warek and a Skriath so far, but I hear warek gets good later

Any better formation I can use or just keep levelling the current team?

[gilded jewel]

Try Saveas

Brutus
Rowan
Luc
Tasi

@slender echo

[floral onyx]

@slender echo it’s not recommended to upgrade to L without enough copies to go L+ but keep in mind that Rowan can replenish health potions at 121+

[pale kettle]

currenty at chapter 10, should i continue levelling shemira ? im getting 2-hit by enemy saveas

[slender echo]

Thanks for the advice guys

[pale kettle]

most updated heros*

should i continue levelling shemira? getting destroyed at chapter 10 by enemy saveas

[winter matrix]

I suggest you get Shemira to lvl 140 and then the rest of your team to 120.
And only level your top 5 so go to the Rickety Cart and reset Mirael, Gorvo and Thane

Also, try not to make L heroes if you don't have another E+ copy to get them to L+.
I guess Nemora and Shemira are an exeption because they can be bought from store. But for now only buy Shemira from lab store @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

alright thanks. what about the best line up at this moment?

[winter matrix]

Shemira
Lucius
Rosaline
Estrilda
Tasi

[pale kettle]

okay thanks(:

[robust forum]

Any advice for getting through this floor of Mauler Tower?

[cinder cloak]

I run Shem, Lucius, Rosa, Fawkes and Nara/rowan. Any other suggestions?

[winter matrix]

@cinder cloak get Lucius to 200 and then the rest to 180. After that you can 220 Shemira which will be a nice boost.
I'd run the same lineup you have.

Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda/Fawkes

Belinda can sometimes be good to boost Shemiras damage, so she kills the enemy carry quicker

[cinder cloak]

Awesome. Thanks.

I wish the game would give me more rowan. Love that lil guy

[final meteor]

@robust forum try
safiya
numisu
vurk
brutus
khasos
to burst the bottom?

[cinder cloak]

I know its a no no to move someone to L without being able to take em to L+, but would it be a good idea to take rowan to L since I only need one more copy?

[winter matrix]

Theres still no guarantee you'll get that E for weeks/months

[cinder cloak]

Very true.

[ebon patio]

Can someone give me some pointers I’m stuck on 6-35

[wintry ether]

Any help? Arden Perma roots my team

[winter matrix]

@ebon patio Try resseting Skriath and Rowam to 61 getting Estrida to 81. That might give her the tankines to survive until Belinda ults. You can also try switching Hogan and Estrildas positions to see who survives longest

@wintry ether You'll probably need a Shemira at 180 for this but try

Lyca
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Nemora

And then retry until Nemora charms enemy Arden and he roots his own team

[lost nova]

@wintry ether you could also try
Rosa
Luci
Rowan
Belinda/shem
Arden
Get Arden to root the other Arden and belinda/shem to kill that side fast. Might possibly work

If you do shem in my setup. Just reset Belinda's levels and make shem 180 to pass

[robust forum]

Thanks, @final meteor !

[wintry ether]

Thanks. I will have to wait till I can put lyca into my crystal

My nemora dies literally instantly @cwonk. Do u think I will need a stronger crystal than 160?

[winter matrix]

Do you have a Lyca to stop her from getring rooted?

[wintry ether]

Yes.

I have the exact como u listed with my shem at 180. Team getting obliterated before being able to do anything

[winter matrix]

Idk whats killing Nemora. It might take a couple of tries for her to charm arden

[wintry ether]

It's like the moment I start nem dies

Is it just auto killing me be cause lvl 160 crystal isnt allowed to beat chap 16?

[winter matrix]

No, I had lvl 160 crystal all the way to ch20.
It should be possible with 160 crystal.
You can try Seras lineul of mine doesn't work

[wintry ether]

Seras didnt seem to work either. It's literally like my entire backline explodes before they get any attacks off(except rowan). Man I wish campaign had a feature like tower where u could see what others did

[winter matrix]

@wintry ether you can try this

[wintry ether]

I dont even know what's killing them tbh. It's like kaz hits my bel once and boom the entire backline dies

[solar bridge]

guys, should i replace hendrik with fawkes?

[wintry ether]

Wait is Luca susposed to stop the team from getting rooted? My whole team still gets rooted even with lyca

[winter matrix]

@wintry ether she's supposed to give Nemora the haste to charm arden before he roots, so he roots his own team

[wintry ether]

Ahh. So should I just run the stage like 700 times with this comp

[wintry ether]

@winter matrix thanks I ended up beating it with

Lyca
---lucius
Rowan
---belinda
Arden

[violet igloo]

@primal quarry yes I meant Saveas, indeed

[ember bane]

25-44 Need advice plz ty

[dark current]

I stuck here

[still oar]

Can your eironn dodge skreg and draw hypo mage and IRA closer?

[dark current]

Yep but he still do his aoe think

[odd python]

put athalia across from hypo mage then

and play around cc

theres no brutus here to counter dodge, you could even just swap out ferael for rowan and retry till you get bullshit luck and cc to victory

[dark current]

Only 1/3 life skreg left and 1/2 lyca left

[odd python]

feraels probably gonna be less effective without a 20 lyca

[dark current]

I'm building her si

[nova torrent]

How canpI beatbeatt thid I tweak the comp. Tryed lica but didnt work

[ebon patio]

Hey so I’m stuck still on the same map

Any tips?

[urban scroll]

Need help

[pale kettle]

can you give this lineup a shot? @nova torrent

Fawkes
   Lucius
Rowan
   Rosaline
Belinda

[ebon patio]

Si should be a mod in here no lie 😂

[pale kettle]

I thought you and shadow were stuck on the same stage for a sec lol

AFKing would give you justice, you seem to be underleveled to be able to beat that stage. Go afk for a while, and level up the rest of your heroes.

You also seem to have no chance on getting your Belinda up. If you're willing to, start building either Saveas or Mirael as soon as possible and replace Bel with whoever you chose for now - rely on either of them as your main carry for now. @ebon patio

Need help

[ebon patio]

So would you recommend keepin bel at 100 and just grinding out lvls for mirael or just retiring bel and upgrading it that way?

[pale kettle]

retire Bel and transfer it to Mirael or Saveas, start focusing on getting either of them to Legendary+ @ebon patio

[ebon patio]

Hmm alright forsure add me on discord and I’m gonna join your guild too the owner of mine dosent do anything 😂

[pale kettle]

faction bonus is basically non-existent on your ss, you need to keep that in mind when you're experimenting with different lineups. try this formation and see if it works

Belinda
   Hogan
Grezhul/Baden
   Hendrik
Athalia

you could also go afk for a while, just pooling your resources. at your state, just afking would be helpful enough to get you through difficult stages. overlevel Belinda if you can.
@urban scroll

[lone grail]

Any way to beat this level?

[violet igloo]

@lone grail Try to not use Belinda + Shemira at same time, you only need 1 DPS carry. that being said we got to work with what we got.

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Tasi/Nemora

Try with nemora until she charms ennemy Arden

[lone grail]

So wait do I reset Lucius the text went away @violet igloo

[winter matrix]

No, keep him at 200

[violet igloo]

@lone grail you need to ascend Shemira first. Keep buying in lab

[lone grail]

Im 12k points away to ascend her

[winter matrix]

Get Shemira to 160 and then crystal to 140.

Shemira
Estrilda
Rowan
Brutus
Rosaine
@graceful wind

[graceful wind]

Not to 161? Immediately?

[winter matrix]

She can't get to 161 as she is only L+. When she gets to M she can get to 161+

[graceful wind]

Allright! Thanks!

[subtle talon]

Someone an idea what I could change? Ty

[winter matrix]

Use Ezizh instead of Wukong.
He will stop Ice Shemira from using her Blizzard so your heroes survive longer

[subtle talon]

Ok, ty 🙂

[winter matrix]

And If you're using Shemira as carry you can drop Belinda for Lucius, so Ezizh won't die

[violet igloo]

@graceful wind since Shemira is overleveled you can even put in frontline so that she will ult faster.

Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Estrilda

[lone grail]

I beat it I flipped shemira and Lucius

[violet igloo]

gratz

[subtle talon]

Better, ty @winter matrix 🙂

[nova torrent]

@pale kettle doesn't work

I need to finish it in 1 day to pull on lb

[pale kettle]

can I see your full hero list? @nova torrent

[graceful wind]

Lineup tips?

[wide nymph]

Any advice of what my line-up should be? I got something right now but my front line just gets destroyed. also kinda stuck at lvl 140 lol

[winter matrix]

Buy Shemira from lab store until you have 8 copies of her. Looks like you went for Nemora from lab store, so you might've made a mistake.

Nemora
Lucius
Rosaline
Estrilda
Fawkes @wide nymph

@graceful wind

Saveas
Lucius
Tasi
Eironn
Nemora

[wide nymph]

I'm actually close to 2nd shemira, just got really really lucky with nemora lol

[winter matrix]

Oh, then alright. From the picture I thought you were buying Nemora, because you have her at M.
Thats alright, just keeo buying Shemira and remember that you get her from a PoT and when completing ch15, so you can buy 2 copies less

[violet igloo]

@wide nymph and keep that Silvina fodder for Shemira aswell

[stone bluff]

help lps

[violet igloo]

@stone bluff if you switch Eironn and Tasi does Eiron die before he ults?

[stone bluff]

no

@violet igloo the real problem is nemora, anyone focus her

[solar bridge]

guys, should i replace hendrik with fawkes?

[nova torrent]

@solar bridge ur top 5 should be saveas hogan arden silvana and another fooder

[nova torrent]

so that u can put tBuild L tier heros to L+ and run something like Saveas, Mereal, Hogan, Arden, Silvina as the 5 you manually level. Use the resonance slots in your crystal for levels for other heros. Don't ascend A tier heros past E+ til you have 8 copies with the exception of Shemira because she is a shop hero and will take over as carry when you can level her to 161.
There are guides pinned the the top 3 dots on right side on this channel that will help with who to focus on for smoother progress and avoiding issues, ie do not use A tier heros as fodder.

[open dome]

Any idea to do this

[nova torrent]

what ch is it'

[open dome]

Q3-40

[forest carbon]

@open dome reset everyone and get belinda to 180 first

[winter matrix]

@open dome

Belinda
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

Also do what Cubey said

[open dome]

I cannot make her 180 not enough dust

[forest carbon]

You get dust back from resetting the other heroes

[open dome]

And then done have the other lvl 141?

[forest carbon]

Your only crucial 141 is brutus anyway but yep

[open dome]

Okay

[stone bluff]

how win this ?22--44

[open dome]

Still dont worl

[pale kettle]

anyone has ss for 25-52?

[proper pagoda]

Is there a way of beating this with the heroes I have noe, what should I do?

[stone bluff]

Fawks
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline
@proper pagoda

[topaz eagle]

26-60 any lineup?

[hushed gyro]

Is this possible?

[winter matrix]

Its probably best you do Nara vs Tasi so Shemira won't get banished and would hopefully get an ult off

[primal quarry]

Should i reset belinda and lvl 160 my shem?

[violet igloo]

@topaz eagle your lineup looks pretty good, nice Mehira. You'll need good RNG

[winter matrix]

Belinda pre 161+ is better than Shemira so I woukd stick with Belinda.
If you wanna try Shemira you can try, it only takes 20 diamonds.
You can also try putting Belinda frontline to get her ult faster and put Tasi in the back @primal quarry

[hushed gyro]

Shemira still gets cc'd by tasi even vs nara shenira is like perma cc'd whole fight its infuriating

Yeah I have tried a ton I don't think it's possible

[winter matrix]

Tommorow is reset, so you can merc a good Ferael, so he will interrupt with enemies attacks

[pallid rose]

Hello all

I just started chapter 11 i got many good pulls just today and made nemora legendary plus can u advice me a good team?

[winter matrix]

Reset Lucius & Saveas to lvl 121 and then lvl Shemira to 160.

Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Lucius
Nemora
@pallid rose

[pallid rose]

All keep 121 and only shemira 160 right?

[winter matrix]

Yes

[pallid rose]

Ok thank you so much

[twin robin]

Should I try to reset seveas?

[nova torrent]

@pale kettle yea hang on

[nova torrent]

Vidan using ult is a big problem and even with fawke 60%energie reduction he stills manage tk ult and even when luc bel ros fawkes focus him he stills ult

[zinc stump]

@pallid rose avoid spending fodder until you have the copies. And avoid spreading your fodder out between several heros. The fodder you have spent on Luc, Fawkes and Estrilda could have had Bel up to M and she will be a shop hero this next update.
With what you have try Shem, Lyca, Tasi, Nem, Saveas until you get Bel or Shem M or better. You need to focus on a carry first especially if your plan to use Rosa at any point...

[nova torrent]

oh yea

[zinc stump]

@nova torrent put Bel Grace and Rosa Call as front row

[nova torrent]

I need 2 for bel for A so should I bring her to M rn? by using hogan as food

[zinc stump]

@nova torrent and try swapping Raine for Rowan since hes low Ascension

@nova torrent you're nowhere near level cap for her so it wont make much positive difference if you do push her right now. Not a big power jump. You need to dump 33 more levels into her as fast as you can

[nova torrent]

alright also should I use the 24h exp hero I only got 2 ,

tryna get to 16th as fast as possible to buy the stargaze tickets from valentine event

[zinc stump]

@nova torrent I'd save those for late game but up to you. I meant only dump exp into her and ignore the rest for now...

@nova torrent you should be able to get them even if sg isnt open. I got 5 in Halloween event and wasnt in ch15 yet

[nova torrent]

alright , I save all the others gold and dust but I was exp pretty scares

[zinc stump]

Likely there will be much more efficient things for you to get like scrolls and purple stones. 10 sg tickets for a chance at 1 hero vs the fodder and e given by scrolls is inefficient

[nova torrent]

ah ok , I watch volkin video but I guess it's not relevent for me because he is mid game and a whale

[winter matrix]

And in general Volkin gets a lot of things wrong

[sweet crane]

Team for Soren?

[nova torrent]

Do you know a good youtuber to watch , I watched afk arena guide and read the pinned messages .

[winter matrix]

@sweet crane Use baden/Grezhul to turn Soren around, so he wont charm your team.

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Baden/Grezhul
Belinda

[nova torrent]

I tryed with raine it's not even close , idk how people reach the you don't have enought power to attack this ennemy while I struggle vs x2 enemies

[sweet crane]

@winter matrix do I have Baden?

[winter matrix]

Rowan is imo better than Raine, because he heals and gives good energy @nova torrent

@sweet crane I don't see your full list, but from what I can see no, you don't

[nova torrent]

yea , I also tried with rowan , I'm sure it's harder due to the power gap but a very good player pass this stage easily

[sweet crane]

Then couldn't you recommend me a replacement?

Wukong?

[winter matrix]

You can try using someone else, but your team will get charmed right away, and you'll die.

[nova torrent]

so it piss me off I'm not use to being bad at a game , I used to be in the top 10 competive EU in other mobile game like coc codm but here I'm stuck early game

[winter matrix]

Wukong can turn around Soren yea @sweet crane

[solar bridge]

hello guys, how do u rate the playstore to get free 1000 diamonds? it popped up once and i misclicked cancel, then now it never pops up again

[winter matrix]

Even if you spend thousands of dollars you still won't be anywhere near top 50.
The whales in this game are insane.

Its an afk game, so go afk and lvl your Belinda as high as you can @nova torrent

[nova torrent]

yea ik it's just frustrating lol

Imma just mercenarie that tomorrow , what mercenary should I use shemira or belinda?

[winter matrix]

Have you tried just going to the play store and giving a rating/comment?
The diamonds should be in your mail after you do that.
You can also try going to Quests and seeing if the quest is still there, and then press Advance @solar bridge

[solar bridge]

ok, got it, much appreciated. Btw can i switch Hedrik to Fawkes and Saveas to Belinda?

[winter matrix]

If you need a tank Hendrik will be good when paired with Lucius in frontline.
For a carry I would use Saveas, as he is a fodder unit and will get to L+ sooner than Belinda. And I think Saveas is better in early game than Belinda.

[opal thistle]

any 29-54 screenshots?

[solar bridge]

@winter matrix I tried rating straight in playstore, didnt get my 1000 diamonds :(

[winter matrix]

Is it anywhere in Quests?

[median bridge]

Should I switch up my team a bit? Current is Lucius, Hogan, Belinda, tasi, and eirron

[primal quarry]

is saveas pre 161 better than shem pre 161?

[winter matrix]

Saveas will carry you harder than Shemira before she's 161+

[pulsar tapir]

Can someone help please

[forest carbon]

I reckon my levels just too low

[winter matrix]

@forest carbon Place Nemora where Nara is and Lyca instead of Fawkes. Try this, and retry until Nemora charms Arden and he roots his own team

[rough goblet]

Help

[winter matrix]

@rough goblet

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Hendrik
Rosaline

[rough goblet]

Tried and it’s not even close @winter matrix

Vedan bats are OP

[winter matrix]

You can try replacing Rosaline for Nemora do she charms Vedan?

[rough goblet]

I will try

[stone bluff]

help

[winter matrix]

Have you tried Athalia/Nara vs Fawkes?

[stone bluff]

i tried fawkes vs fawkes

i trill try nara now

[tropic agate]

Ideas ?

[rough goblet]

@winter matrix no she doesn’t

[winter matrix]

Try Lyca instead of Brutus, to get some dodges and to give Nemora the haste to charm Arden @tropic agate

She will eventually, just keep retrying @rough goblet

[tropic agate]

K thx

[solar bridge]

@winter matrix no, its not anywhere in quests :( i cant rate it to get free 1000 diamonds now...

[pale kettle]

Need some help getting past chapter 8

[nova torrent]

@tropic agate how are you ch 23 lv69mate, I'm lv60 still ch 10-40 lol

[tropic agate]

@nova torrent the power of f2p ||(jk I'm level 160)||

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle overall your hero levels and fodder usage is pretty neat. You just need to get Mirael to L or saveas. Honestly being chap 8 with so little heroes is already very good. Keep it up, wait a little bit and keep opening packs. The lineup you are using is already the best right now

Estrilda
Hogan
Mirael
Gorvo
Tasi

[pale kettle]

Okay thank you

[echo owl]

Not sure If I should switch to Brutus/Shem + 3 light heros? Or any other ideas?

[winter matrix]

You can do

Fawkes
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Rosaline
@echo owl

And if Rosaline doesn't work try Lyca or Tasi

[echo owl]

Intresting you put shemira front line?
I normally sit her behind Brutus and she can just get off her ultimate before the pve wave hits her and we win thanks to this?
And you think having "epic heros" is worth more than my legendary/mythic others?

[winter matrix]

Rosaline, Rowan and Fawkes all work at Epic.
I put Shemira front line so she gets energy faster and can cast her ult

You can also try Shemira, Brurys frontline and Wilder trio in the back

[echo owl]

ok thanks will give it a think, which wilder trio at back is "as" efficient as the op light trio?

[winter matrix]

Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora

Can be really good, for giving CC

[echo owl]

I would just like a team to really boost Shemira's and Brutus's, strengths...Maybe 1-2 that can boost the max atk heroes, 1-2 that can sheild/heal/buff team, not sure which is most efficient.

[winter matrix]

You won't get very far with a full DPS team.
You'll need shields/heals to survive

[zinc stump]

@echo owl there are some guides pinned in this channel that explain team comp theory and how to build with synergies.

[echo owl]

Sorry maybe i wasn't clear, I would simply like to boost shemira and Brutus's output. Having maybe a backline support/cc/heals/sheilds heros. I don't know which support heros would be best suited for these 2 heros.

[winter matrix]

If you wanna boost their damage you can run

Belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca (for haste)

[echo owl]

No faction boost there though?

[winter matrix]

Faction boost is a nice boost, but you should focus on team synergy

[zinc stump]

@echo owl brutus is mainly used to soak up 8 seconds of damage to let your carry start their ult chain. If you want to boost Shem damage you want batteries and damage boosts like Rosa Rowan and Raine

[echo owl]

and Rosa, rowan and raine are all light?

[winter matrix]

Rosa, Rowan, Raine are all light, but I wouldn't use them all at once

[zinc stump]

The point was their skills. Lorson also has a damage boost...

[echo owl]

Hmmmm this is giving me a head ache

What about Lucius front line? doesn't he give some nice sheilds?

[pale kettle]

Stuck 10-40 I get Belinda in today

[winter matrix]

He gives good shields, and if you aren't using Brutus for his Last Gaso ability I would prefer Lucius over Brutus @echo owl

[echo owl]

Why not having to major tanks like lucius/brutus front line, and 2 support heros to help shemira build her haste/energy/damage even more?

[winter matrix]

@pale kettle try

Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda

[pale kettle]

@winter matrix tried it seems that my team just gets melted too early lol I’ll just wait to level them up more haha

[zinc stump]

@echo owl Luc doesnt do as well front row. He is more a back row support especially at lower Ascension

@pale kettle Bel with Grace and Rosa with call front row, Luc, Raine, Fawkes back row. You need to dump some serious levels into your Bel though

[pale kettle]

I’ll try this when I get the epic+ bel so I can legend+ later on today

[stray edge]

Stuck at 17-24 any suggestions?

[zinc stump]

@stray edge try bel rosa front row swap grez for Luc and brutus for fawks

[idle oriole]

So stuck.. Tried almost everything

[stray edge]

I don’t have Fawkes.. anybody a I could replace him with?

[winter matrix]

@idle oriole try this

[idle oriole]

👌

[winter matrix]

You can try replacing Fawkes for Tasi. @stray edge

[zinc stump]

@idle oriole have you tried swaping shem to slot 2

[idle oriole]

Ye but she gets rooted ;/

[naive slate]

Can anyone help me with optimal arena lineup and Challenger lineups?

[zinc stump]

@stray edge Alathia to pin down Izzy might work or a quick kill on silvina. The idea for that slot is CC

[stray edge]

Yeah, my problem is that Silvina keeps killing my support heroes but every time I put Athalia on her she seems to have already gone to my support..

[winter matrix]

You can try Athalia vs Ferael to save yourself from his ghosts

[stray edge]

K, I’ll try that

[past geode]

Not sure how to go about this?

[stray edge]

Okay thanks that actually worked just passed the level @winter matrix

[violet igloo]

@past geode you have a decent team, what you're missing is Rowan+30 and Ferael A. How many Ferael copies are you missing?

[past geode]

@violet igloo two feraels. Rowan is definitely a work in progress.

So should I try a different comp or?

[stray edge]

Stuck on 195 in kings tower

[stray rivet]

Hi guys, I'm new to the game and need help regarding heroes that I should keep upgrading here

[winter matrix]

Only upgrade your top 5!
Go to the Rickety Cart in Ranhorn and reset Ogi, Ira, Morvus.
Then level up your Belinda as high as you can.
Then your lineup can be

Belinda
Hogan
Lyca
Ogi
Mirael
@stray rivet

[stray rivet]

Thanks for insight, but one question - why should I reset Ogi if you say that I should use him?

[winter matrix]

You can keep Ogi, but the Reset Golus.

[pale kettle]

Any help?

Tried about everything

[stray rivet]

Or do you mean that I should use lvl 1 Ogi in my team?

[winter matrix]

No, keep him at lvl 27.
Go to the Rickety Cart and reset Golus, Ira, Morvus

[zinc stump]

@nova torrent try this lineup

[stray rivet]

Okay, now it's clear to me, thanks again

[split peak]

Thats a terrible lineup belinda will die quick

[zinc stump]

@stray rivet reset Lyca... you want the L tier heros as 5 manually leveled heros. Only reason I dont say reset Bel too is she will be a shop hero. L Tier heros get to L+ faster as you dont need to hold them at E+ while you wait for 8 copies

@split peak wrong

[nova torrent]

@zinc stump doesn't come close

[idle oriole]

Belinda tanks at high ascensions / levels

[split peak]

Bruh belinda is the worse hero to put up front the f are u talking about

[final meteor]

25-22

[honest hamlet]

Any tips? Currently stuck and im not sure if i should use wukong (i have like 3mil exp)

[split peak]

My belinda is at 600k o would never dream to put her up front

[violet igloo]

@past geode since ennemy is GB you could try with Wilders, however your LB comp is already really strong so I believe you can complete it with LB. Once you get Tasi ascended then your wilder team becomes more viable 👍

[nova torrent]

they just crumble the 4 of them I tried with this and lucius mid

[honest hamlet]

My lineup is rowan nemora hogan belinda and the red haired girl

[zinc stump]

@split peak Bel front has carried and tanked very well and can get to ch20+ rosa drops behind Belinda which still maintains the front line. It works really well and has worked for the past 15 chapters.

[violet igloo]

@honest hamlet keep buying Shemira in lab. You'll need to have a DPS carry, either Mirael or Saveas (or Belinda but she's less good). Don't make legendary heroes if you can't make them L+ straight after, exceptions are Saveas or Mirael

[honest hamlet]

Lab?

[split peak]

U guys should try to build a front line that can actually tank for belinda to ult instead of sacrificing her up front

At least use shem upfront ffs

[honest hamlet]

Wdym by lab

[zinc stump]

@split peak if you want to continue to argue with me we can take this #545919777907015684 the lineup works.

[idle oriole]

@honest hamlet labyrinth

[honest hamlet]

Ohhh

[split peak]

What chapter are u in?

[zinc stump]

@split peak I am farming 19 while I get my 5th A to push over 21.

[idle oriole]

I've seen ppl in chap 26-27 use her as tank so I'm guessing it works xd

[violet igloo]

@honest hamlet lab = labyrinth. When I say buy in lab I mean buy in the labyrinth store

[honest hamlet]

Aight thx imma try

[split peak]

I have ppl in chapter 30 in my guild whats ur point

[idle oriole]

?

[zinc stump]

@split peak drop it. No more arguing or discounting peoples advice.

[stray rivet]

@zinc stump who should I use instead of Lyca then?

[nova torrent]

@split peak my shem can't tank she is 120 E hogan also tank we less than my bel

[violet igloo]

@split peak you can put Belinda in frontline, as well as Shemira, or any other DPS. What's important is that the hero is overleveled compared to other heroes

[nova torrent]

tho it's prob coz I 'm still early and a noob at this game , wdym farm 19 , does the mythic gear trick really works?

[zinc stump]

@stray rivet any L tier would be better as the manually leveled hero. I'd say vedan since you have 2 LB and a W on there already. You'll get a free reset when you dump him into Shem

[woven skiff]

I mean Shemira can actually tank when she gets to 161 though

[stray rivet]

I see, thanks @zinc stump . Also, should I spend my diamonds on 10 pulls right away or save them for something?

[zinc stump]

Diamonds on x10 pulls and the 90 D purple stones in shop only. There doesnt seem to be a summoning event in the next couple weeks so no reason to save.

[stray rivet]

Got it, thanks again

[hazy comet]

Any tips? I feel like im close.

[final meteor]

@hazy comet try shemira in thoran's spot, get rid of thoran and add nemora/arden to back

[hazy comet]

Nemora arden fails there due to insta death from casters

[final meteor]

do you have a lyca

[zinc stump]

@hazy comet you can also try swapping positions. Sometimes if you're really close just swapping placement can help. Maybe Bel front to keep Luc from dieing too quick

[hazy comet]

Yeah thats what i might do

[zinc stump]

Or swap Luc and Thoran

[nova torrent]

why not put rosa instead of thoran?

with that won't u be able to get off 1 shem ult?

[split peak]

@violet igloo my whole point was that eventually u wont be able to over level stuff so relying on a strategy like that will get u nowhere

[hexed shuttle]

What do you think about my line up and how should I proceed leveling these heroes. Any priorities??

[split peak]

Well ur goal is to get stuff to the l+ barrier

[winter matrix]

Its best you don't use 3 carries in 1 team. You can replace Belinda and Saveas for other support heroes @hexed shuttle

[violet igloo]

@hexed shuttle you only need 1 carry, not 3.

[split peak]

He can still keep shem up front she is a good tank

[winter matrix]

@harsh copper

Nemora
Hogan
Rowan
Belinda
Tasi @harsh copper

[split peak]

Though if u cant get them past legendary u will have problems

[harsh copper]

Why Belinda isn’t she late game?

[split peak]

U need enough to upgrade past legendary though

[winter matrix]

She can do a lot of damage in all stages of the game.
Also replacing Mirael for Rowan will give you heals and energy

[harsh copper]

And switch Arden for Tasi?

[split peak]

Man i want rowan so bad but i cant seem to get him at all

[harsh copper]

You can have mine I’m planning on maining wilder lol

[winter matrix]

Arden before 2-3 roots isn't that good @harsh copper

[split peak]

U have an ascended rowan?

[harsh copper]

No I have just e

[split peak]

Mine is E+

[final meteor]

... that ulmus is unkillable

[hexed shuttle]

Thsee are my heroes.. so I don't have much choice :/

[split peak]

Shem and lucius up front and belinda fawkes and saveas in the back

[winter matrix]

Don't use that much carries.

[split peak]

Yes u do u have 4 at L+ u have tons of room to grow

@winter matrix bud he cant build a different team so his best choice is to upgrade those until other path can open

[winter matrix]

If you say so...

[plush patrol]

Any chance with this?

[split peak]

@winter matrix lets be realistic i dont care how good ur team works together if they cant be leveled up they will get insta killed

[hexed shuttle]

But should I focus on leveling in a certain way?? Like focus shemira to x level then focus belinda etc...???

[split peak]

Shem is a good carry so yes but u wont have too much problem getting those 3 to m+

[violet igloo]

@hexed shuttle put Saveas 140+ and others 120

Saveas
Lucius
Belinda
Brutus
Fawkes

Belinda is here to buff Saveas and for faction role bonus

[zinc stump]

@hexed shuttle you're pushing 3 that need the same fodder. You want to aim for 1 of each faction to push to A and only spend fodder on that hero.

[split peak]

Even though u wont have a faction bonus it will be easy to get to higher lvl then u can build a better team around chapter 18-20

Make sure ur wishlist has no stupid fodder tier stuff though

[zinc stump]

In paddy lineup hes showing bel as a support roll for saveas carry which is fine, but you also want to avoid the trap of running too many carry heros. Shem and Bel at equal levels for example is poor composition when it is a team with no cc

[violet igloo]

@hexed shuttle you could replace Belinda with Rosa, but Belinda will have more HP and also Rosaline + Saveas is useless. Once you get Shemira to 160, you can put Rosa instead of Belinda. I recommend also you read the guide pinned in this channel written by V.

[split peak]

Rosa and belinda are a good combo later on

[stray rivet]

Should I upgrade rare equipment or save resources for better equipment?

[winter matrix]

Save your gold

[glossy pagoda]

Well if its for the quest from starter week its fine to upgrade some rare+ , ist cheap anyway

[stray rivet]

Speaking of quests - for some reason I defeated 3 bosses in lab, but daily says that I only defeated one

[glossy pagoda]

Usually the quests care about the floor where the boss was defeated, like 3 times boss ofvfirst floor

[winter matrix]

You have to beat the 1st floor 3 times

[stray rivet]

Hm, but how can I do it if it resets daily just like daily quest?

I mean, so it completes daily quest

[glossy pagoda]

Its weekly quest

[winter matrix]

The lab quests are weekly

[glossy pagoda]

But Yes if u just started u may not be able to do it this week

[stray rivet]

Ah, oops, it's weekly, for some reason I thought that it's daily, thanks for clarifying this to me

[eager jay]

24-52, been stuck for a few days. Any suggestions? Doesn't seem to matter what I try for combos.

[zinc stump]

@eager jay have you tried Fearal in place of shem and twins for the haste?

[eager jay]

I haven't as I don't own the twins. I'd have to see if I can borrow them

[zinc stump]

@eager jay are you having the issue that Thoran is killing your Fawkes too quick? Maybe tasi charm could help instead?

[eager jay]

It's a trickle effect. Whoever I put in the middle back gets wrecked almost instantly. Then it's rosaline, fawkes, shem/brutus

[zinc stump]

So you're looking for an Alathia counter.

[eager jay]

I usually run brutus, shem, nemora, Lyca, Tasi

[final meteor]

Loool do I charm ferael arden or morvus

[zinc stump]

I'll take another look in a bit if someone else cant help... need to get my wife from work. @eager jay

[eager jay]

No rush, appreciate any help

[final meteor]

@eager jay I used this but you don’t have eironn

[eager jay]

I could swap him out for somebody and try it. But he's only L+

[final meteor]

Might need to merc one

[eager jay]

Who would you substitute for Arden? I don't have one higher than rare+

[final meteor]

if hes lvl 160 it works

he gets 1shot if hit anyways and you need him to root athalia

[harsh copper]

Anyone I should switch out for Lyca?

[thin sonnet]

I can ascend Belinda or hogan

Who do I go for

[stray edge]

Belinda

[pale kettle]

Tasi or Rowan

Though you might also want to move Nemora, her charm will either be dodged by enemy Kaz or be entierly useless with enemy Ulric @harsh copper

[stray edge]

I’d go for Belinda because Hogan is only a legendary tier and you’d regret not ascending Belinda later on

[thin sonnet]

Okay thank you.. Can I use Belinda and saveas in the same team? Who should I remove

[stray edge]

As of now probably use Saveas but once you get to where you can’t use saveas then use Belinda

[thin sonnet]

Ok thanks if I'm stuck, I will just try and brute force through with her as well

[eager jay]

Think I'll have to try a merc. L+ eironn getting smashed

[split peak]

Best part belinda will become a farmable hero in the next update

[zinc stump]

@eager jay odd thought... Thoran in slot 4 since Alathia cant kill him

[weary cobalt]

what can i do here? 22-60

[split peak]

Rosa got me past that lvl

She can dodge athelia

[eager jay]

@zinc stump that worked slightly better. Still not making it though. I'll give it a few more days and see if I can make some improvements.

[split peak]

@weary cobalt downgrade rowan to 200 and upgrade lucius to 240 otherwise u have no chance of beating that lvl

[weary cobalt]

@split peak
still getting rekt, what else can i do? rosa die befor she can ult

i guess i just keep till i get clutch or something like that

[split peak]

Can u borrow a high lvl rosa her sig is really useful

[lone grail]

Help me 😢

[weary cobalt]

already wasted, the reason that i want to pass it now its becuase the is a wild and i want to get the faction scrolls and open some wilds @split peak

[split peak]

Return one hero and ask for a rosa

[weary cobalt]

i already used twice in this week

[split peak]

Its not an easy lvl so u might not have a choice

Dm me a pic of ur lucius

[high oyster]

Stuck at 4-28

[split peak]

Ur not stuck just need to lvl ur stuff up its too soon to worry about other stuff

[high oyster]

Ah ok

[harsh copper]

Could I possibly swap hogan for Lyca?

[split peak]

Yes u may

[harsh copper]

Like would it be good?

[lone grail]

Can I beat it?

[split peak]

Not looking likely

[lone grail]

Yea I’m on shemira away from ascended and one L+ fodder to get either Belinda or Rowan to ascended

[split peak]

Bro why dont u put shem up front?

And also put lucius where brutus is and replace brutus with farael

[lone grail]

Shemira just keep getting wiped I’ll try again

[limpid quail]

@lone grail try with nemora to charm enemy ferael

Also posting your full pool might bring up better advice since we know what to work with

[cunning oracle]

I’m still early on in the game but am wondering who I should be focusing on with regards to gameplay?

[violet pecan]

@cunning oracle #classic-questions

[cunning oracle]

Ty

[nova herald]

Any advice on best lineup for Soren? I'm trying to break 300m. Current at around 200m

[hidden crypt]

baden

[limpid quail]

Shemira, Rosa, Rowan, baden, twins

[nova herald]

ok, yea i'll try that

[nova herald]

so like this?
Rosa

• Shemira
  Rowan
• Baden
  Twins

[limpid quail]

Yes

[violet pecan]

hahhahahahh fultsch XD...

[limpid quail]

@violet pecan I would try
Lyca
Lucius
Ferael
Tasi
Nemora

[violet pecan]

@nova herald the particular lineup order for soren doesnt matter that much

[final meteor]

25-28?

[limpid quail]

@violet pecan what are you laughing at? XD

[grand brook]

hi

[violet pecan]

@limpid quail on concept that you were tired to explain to the person that the particular lineup order doesnt matter when you are facing the sore.. you simple exhaled.. gave up and typed.. yes

[final meteor]

@nova herald try replacing baden with lucius too; im crystal 254 with that comp and do 197m

[limpid quail]

Well it does matter a little but, you want Rosa close to Shem so she doesn't run around unnecessarily and Rowan middle for the most benefit

[violet pecan]

ouh yea. you have a point in there. i havent payed full attention on the pool you gave to the guy

[past geode]

Should I swap lyca out for orthos?

[rain oriole]

@past geode Lyca is useful for that haste buff, doubt orthos will be much use at E but you can always try him out, for that stage try
Arden
Belinda
Rowan
Grezhul
Mehira/Lyca

[past geode]

@rain oriole thank you I guess I meant to post a different picture of the team formation it was mainly a team in general kind if question. Though I will go ahead and say I don't have an Arden worth any ascension I believe. I'll sub Arden for who exactly?

[rain oriole]

You want to start building up an Arden and you can just put him on your crystal when you do get him

@sweet crane try
Arden
Brutus
Rowan
Saveas
Lyca/Fawkes

[past geode]

Okay will work towards that I'm on chapter seven on this alt so I was actually wondering what the general team would be. Thanks.

[bright sigil]

Any tips to beat this level ?

[echo bloom]

Can anyone help me pass this stage? Have a couple crystal spots open if a lvl 1 boasted up would help

[tribal sluice]

stuck at 9-12, thanks!

[small wind]

Try Nemora, Lyca, Arden backline and Belinda + Lucius Frontline. If Belinda dies too fast, you need to place her behind lucius and just sacrifice Lyca in the frontline

ideally you should show the enemy lineup too

[tribal sluice]

that worked! Thanks, ill keep that in mind next time i post

[small wind]

Np, Arden is actually really strong that early, his root is amazing and he gets even better at 141 with his 3 man root. Also his DPS is underestimated, he dishes out really good dmg sometimes

[echo bloom]

tried arden in my lineup at 14-39 and him and rowan get insta gibbed pretty much an elite i threw in raine and fawkes as well

[small wind]

Well, while Rosa and shemira are quite nice together, I'm not a huge fan of using them in campaign that early because usually a single shem ult is enough to yeet the enemies. Let me see

[echo bloom]

yeah shem gets killed before she can even get one off most of the time and the rare time she does get one off she dies akmost immediately after, cant heal past teh dmg

[small wind]

Try
Rosa
Shemira
Arden
Lucius
Athalia