#lineup-help
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This is my sticking point now :-(
eh yikes both the lyca and grezhul are mercs so can only use one of them
Oh, just noticed that. You can try switching Grez merc for Brutus?
I don't like grezhul at all tbh... Like he just tanks, and I use to like tanks :(
alright ill try that
@slender echo looks good, just lvl your heroes up
Show all your heroes dugtott, ur steongest heroes maybe not the best to clear this. Rowan would be really good here for example
@bright root
Try
Rosaline/fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Twins/athalia
@thick dove
Saveas
Rigby
Rowan
Brutus
Fawkes/Belinda/Tasi
Geez, I just passed with flying colors, thanks @winter matrix !
Nice!
Hello everyone, I'm stuck in the same level for a few days and I don't know want to do :( anyone got some help please?
You have 6 heroes you try to level up? That's too much :/
Mirael
Lucius
Rowan
Izold
Twins
You will probably have to go afk and lvl up your top 5 to 140
Also yea, Reset Hendrik and pour those levels into your top 5
Oh ok but I have no idea on what to play instead of Hendrik
Izold, Brutus, Wukong....
Well as soon as you get mirael l+ it should be ez enough
Yeah I'm trying to
You should have priorized her over getting all those ligjtbearers to L
Help
@glossy pagoda thanks a bunch keep messing with the team and swiching stuff ojt till i came up with lucius, belinda, as front fawks shimira and althia as back
and beat it
Nice
@rough goblet Reset the E heroes on your top 5 and then lvl 3 other E+ heroes. This will raise cap to 120 and with 120 crystal you should pass it easily
Is Rowan really that strong?
People use e+ rowan even in chapter 27/28 sometimes
@glossy pagoda wtf
@winter matrix I’m working in that but I can’t do it now
He is the most broken lightbearer hero
Oh, also, is Tidus a good Mauler?
He can carry you yea
@glossy pagoda i guess it compensates how weak his older brother is
last time really want to beat chapter 22 already and this is the last level
Try
Shemira
Lucius
Lyca (probaply the merc)
Tasi
Nemora
U really want to charm the arden
Maybe lorsan instead of tasi, since tasi banishes raine here, if i remember correctly
well anything in the middle back slot will get one shot by althia no matter what anyways
F2P player here. Progress going slow now, any tips on what team I should focus on?
Lyca can dodge if gear is good enough
Rowan would survive the first hit but get shredded thereafter at this ascension, lyca still grants the needed speed to charm arden in time tho
Swapping tasi and nemora may help too, if tasi fails to teleport away from athalia. U basically want tasi and shemira to ult here befor athalia and thane do theirs.
I can't pass the 100 floor:( somebody can help me wih a good formation to beat this floor
Show the floor too
@glossy pagoda
Belinda
Hogan
Rowan
Eironn
Arden
@pale kettle
Ur best linup would likely include a change of level, since having one really strong hero is quite effective. Safiya belinda or Maybe skriath are likely the best Choice. And then
Belinda/skriath
Hogan
Rowan
Khasos
Safiya
Arden is poopoo befor level 81
Some lineup help?
Belinda
Brutus
Nemora
Eironn
Tasi
Tnx
Baiden better or tasi?
Both good
But i think tasi
I using baiden right now
If ur thinking about resonating crystal remove Niru if anything
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Grezhul/Lucius
Lyca
Restart until Nemora charms Arden and see if anything happens
Ok
I am once again asking for your support -bernie sanders
Try Replacing Skriath for Tasi or Lyca. Looks like you're on ch8, which is really hard with 100 crystal. So go afk and get your top 5 to 101
Thats chapter 9 lol im pushin
Oh, then thats even harder with 100 crystal
Its 9-35 XD
Well giving up the team bonus completly would probaply be to much at this point. Maybe brutus and saveas frontline, will allow you to fit in nara or tasi in lucius place.
Even when i had Shemira ult go off for a few seconds still lost with that setup.
Just got Dura's Grace artifact, who is it worth putting on?
Saveas or Shemira maybe?
Doesnt saveas also rape nara?
She survive because Hedrick just to her
but other side got controled à
Jump to her*
@slender echo put it on Shem
Try swapping shemira and rosaline, to get the energy from killing bloodsnarl (its seldom good to attack golus first in general)
Shema now getting charm from nemora
Theoretically u should be able to get another one charmed with some rng
^^ just retry
Also talene could be helpful instead of lucius, if he doesnt even ult
ye lucius die so fast xD
And talene should also allow u to have better gear in use
thx getting better with talene
her revive so op, but i hate this spider girl cocon so op (
U could also try to beat them with control urself, using gorvo nemora talene and hendrik/nara
ok will try thx
Nemora should either charm saveas or spidrrgirl
Or enemy nemora utilizing call for double charm
mine nemora also can random double charm?
ok, so, should i be getting a nemora? stuck at 7-36 and i feel like it will be a long time before getting over it, unless i get more heals/cc on my team
Well if u charm nemora fast enough she will charm one of her allies too
No, buy Shemira from lab store until you can get her to Ascended @zenith urchin
But not sure if just using duras call is fast enough, without having lyca for that
Is it worth buying shem for stars
No
Buy Nemora, Khasos, Thoran, Skreg, Seirus....
What should i buy then
Pretty much anything but raine is buyable
Well arthur and wukong maybe not in early game
Im really lacking on maulers and wilders so might buy those
this is the line up i am using now but its still not really getting anything does the best ive gotten from this is down to thane and althia altho that was once
This was my lineup, maybe u can find some inspiration
just finally beat it
most time when i see arden, i using nara
Gz
@bright root your lineup isn't bad, you just need to be lucky and have Nemora charm Arden
What should my lineup be?
actually it was not even that all i really needed to do was move around some artifacts and that did it
@limpid pumice can try shemira Rosa twins/fawkes Hogan and hendrik
@limpid pumice
Try
Rosaline
Wukong
Mirael
Hendrik
Fawkes
Get mirael to legendary and 140 when u get another fodder e+
@solar yew it’s fine for now. Talene is great. May need to switch to other heroes as you level up though since harder to get celestials to further ascend.
Where can I get more Talene?
@solar yew only from regular summons or stargazing... not realistic for normal f2p generally
Thanks for your advice @woven lichen , & I heared I can get Athalia with tokens but I don't see her
@solar yew you can get her from legend challenger tokens... may need to progress further in campaign before it unlocks
Tips for this stage?
@golden crown keep leveling your Belinda to 140.
Rosa
Belinda
Nemora/tasi
Brutus
Lucius
ir Belinda dies before she ults, put her backline
Cheers mate
Cant pass
@hoary axle send all your heroes
Try
Tasi
Shem
Rowan
Lyca
Nemora
Try charm grezhul @hoary axle
Hi any idea ?
Merc a great khasos and Frontline him along with brutus and rng it so his 1st axe throwing would kill or almost kill the 2 naras after that it's just a matter of luck @tardy river
Do you have the dust to 141 Rosa @hoary axle? It would strengthen your entire box significant ly
Haha 3000 short 😏
Stuck on 6-24...would it be worth it to trade sav for shemeria at this point in the game?
Again i know im underleveled but trying to push it into 10 but cant focus vedan hard enough
@limber silo do u only have e shem?
Yeah...
@gilded jewel replace Skriath with Estrilda, and do :
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Estrilda
Lucius
@limber silo no trading. you're on the right track. keep focusing on getting more copies of saveas,arden,hogan,silvina/vedan and get them straigh to L+. the last one can be any L tier hero, within the faction you have the most copies from. and keep your saveas over leveled than rest of your team
I'm stuck can someone help?
@graceful wind why rowan is underleveld? reset him and level isabbela instead to get your crystal up to 120
Oh
or if you have any other L tier hero. you better level him
I was waiting for dust to get him to lvl 121
you better have only your carry overleveled and rest of the team equal
@calm pulsar okay cool! Just playing the waiting game then. Thanks!
So what do i have to do?
@graceful wind you ascend and level L tier heroes (ones with 3 skills) up to 120 level and L+ ascension,while you push belinda to 160 (this cap will be unlocked as soon as you get everyone to 120)
Oh
its okay to leave estrilda gwyneth and belinda as is. reset rowan and brutus
Brutus to 120 and level isabelle to 120
lets move to #classic-questions
Tower 315 nuts any ideas?
@onyx basin i think wilder comp will work better since there are 3 graveborn on battlefield.
Try
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius/brutus
Lyca
Nemora
@violet igloo nope not one enemy is getting killed xD
Any suggestions would be appreciated 🙂
Is your Shemira level stuck ? Can't you level her more ? For the comp I'd try
Nemora
Shemira
Luca
Brutus/Lucius
Tasi
if you can get your Tasi to L+ that would be nice
Just spent my last blue crystals getting Lyca to 180, will get shem up soon
Thanks a lot for the comp suggestion, will try it out soon. Need a bit more fodder and an extra tasi copy to get her to L+
Hi @graceful wind so first tip is don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+.
Then it's best to use only 1 DPS carry in your team, here you have 2 (Gwyn and Belinda). Can you post your hero box?
I cant beat this one for weeks. Tried like 15 diffrent setups but i get owned instantly every time. Any advice?
@violet igloo
Don't look at the levels, this is an older picture, but still the same heroes
@ancient ridge
@graceful wind ok so first thing, reset your Brutus and out Belinda level 150, she needs to be +20/30 levels ahead of your other heroes. Seems like you are stuck tho because you don't have your 5th L+.
How far are you from getting 2 Shemira ? Don't forget to only buy her in Lab. While you wait to get Shemira, your comp can be :
Estrilda
Belinda
Rowan
Brutus
Ulmus/Angelo/Arden
Get higher levels on your Belinda
But, whenever i reset my brutus my resonating crystal goes down
@still oar thank you!
I need 2k lab coins left for shem, after that i have to get another copy of her!
Maybe i should reset gwen to lvl 120 and upgrade belinda with that resources
@violet igloo
So, i'm sitting at campaing 6-20 and i have enough Lab coins to get either Nemora or Shemira. Also, my lineup is Lucius, Shem, Tasi, Lyca and Safiya. Should i get Shemira to ascend her or Nemora for more heals?
@graceful wind yes put Belinda lvl 150 and others 120
@jovial citrus only buy Shemira in lab, and put Shemira lvl 100 and other heroes lvl, 70. She 'eeds to be overleveled compared to your other heroes 👌 out her frontline and replace Safiya with Kaz so that you can Faction bonus
Okay, thank you
Why do shemira and belinda have to be higher leveled?
But why only 70 tho? Should i reset the others?
@graceful wind because they are the carry heroes, it's them who do the most damage and kill ennemies. Thel being overleveled means that they won't die and build ult and then simply clean the stage. This works even better on Shemira than Belinda
@jovial citrus if you can do lvl 100 and others 80 it's fine too, just make sure to out Shemira lvl 110 after
Alright cool thanks!
Got it. Thank you so much!
No problem guys 👌 we're here to help feel free to post more questions. I'm going to bed now but there are many talented helpers in the discord hanging around.
What's going to be the best lineup for me for a bit? I'm still pretty early on. I just wanna know the most efficient people to build up and use. Right now I'm running
Twins
Wukong
Rowan
Izold? (Tanky syringe boi)
Tea time broom lady
tea time broom lady lmao also damn a wukong e+ that early is awesome
I'm terrible with names. I only remember wukong via warframe.
And wukong has been totally chance. I got him from lair and I got another wukong luckily from the beast event.
@leaden peak i kind of just like rigby instead of izold. that will give u a massive faction bonus
Give up on this run? This is final boss for current lab
jesus thats insane
Rigby is the brew tank right?
I already used tears once
There's no bringers or anything that makes it easy by reducing damage
Hi guys and gals! Anyone have any advice on a direction I should build to?
@rugged warren usually saveas or Mirael is great when overleveled by 20-40 levels from L61-160. If using shemira, similar concept but nice to pair her with Rosa for extra ult. Want to add some tanks in front like grezhul, skreg, or Hogan. Then add additional supports like Nemora tasi Arden lyca estrilda..... so could have something like shemira Rosa Hogan grezhul estrilda
So I've been running Gorvo as a tank should I just dump him to Ascent Nemora?
Nae @rugged warren. Gorvo is decent tanky CC cannonball
Besides this level I would appreciate help about overall development until I can level more Belinda or get a Shemira to 161. Should bring Saveas or level all the 5 heroes at the Crystal?
@green saddle how close are u to having lucius at L+?
How to not die at 17-4?
The easiest answer merc eironn. The floor has high sustainability
I've been stuck on 14-39 for almost a week now, no matter what I try the best that happens is shem ults, and then dies anyways.
Anyone has legend Ogi, Ira, or Angelo stuck ch8-8 :((
Been stuck here for 2 days, may just need levels, I can kill everyone except vedan...this is the only team that has come close.
Ik im wayyy under leveled but any suggestions again lol ive gotten all the way to 9-38 so 3 more levels for advancement
@gilded jewel post all your heroes
Need lineup for 25-43 please
@empty pulsar
ok thanks
@gilded jewel
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Estrilda/Belinda
Unfortunately I didn't SS 43 sorry
oh its ok, thanks anyway!
@pale kettle
thanks!!
@empty pulsar would try Rosa instead of Nemora.... or back of tasi/Arden lyca Nemora
@woven lichen dont have an E/E+ arden right now. I tried rosa but the issue is lucius dying. Belinda is usually the last alive. Triple wilder back row everyone explodes without the Rowan potions. Belinda is tankier than Lucius with 3x M vs lucius in all L.
@woven lichen I've debated Arden >Fawkes, but waiting to be able to build an E+ arden haha
@empty pulsar you’re at the point where Arden is powerful.... especially at L141. So using him instead of Fawkes might help
@woven lichen that was my thought once I can make him E+. Thanks for confirming :)
7-36, any tips?
Help
Can someone help/suggest? @me please
@zenith urchin try estrilda instead of Belinda to see if shemira can ult faster
@supple spruce try estrilda or tasi over Belinda to see if shemira can ult faster
@calm nova try swapping athalia and Belinda
Stuck on 16.20
Thought it would of taken longer but 27-32 only took about 15 tries
@woven lichen can shemira get thru nemora heals without belinda ult burst?
@supple spruce maybe... depends on the level of shemira and if she silenced Nemora too
@woven lichen i used the same comp and got it to work tasi got her sleep and belinda/shemira ulted super lucky, thanks for the suggestion
Anyone have their kt 315 lineup? I suspect the key will be mercing rowan 30
@teal glade
Ferael
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora
I'll give that a try. Luca's only m+ though which might make a big dif
It helps but not mandatory @Persephone (25-8 KT 304)#5412
Wtf 245? Is mehira really THAT good
Yup
@still oar would I use call on tasi or rowan in that lucius setup
Rowan
Cheers
Can u overlevel your shem to 220? Try shem, brutus, fawkes, rowan, lucius (1-5)
Which Team are you normally running?
I need 1 copy for a shem and im normally using something like thane belinda fawkes and nemora
@pale kettle @slow rock
Did you try it?
Any suggestions for 24-60. I've tried the conventional Shemira/Rosa/Lucius/Rowan/Fawkes, but my fawkes never lives long enough and feeds their Athalia into her special
I am renting Fawkes obviously
24-36
@worn veldt
@final meteor try Thoran in shemira’s spot
@flat bear
Nemora
-tasi
Lyca
-shemira
Rowan
(Hopefully shemira ult is good enough... otherwise can try Rowan Rosa Lucius fawkes)
I just need nemora dead, and I'm getting so close..
@inland kite does Nemora at top work to charm enemy nemora... tasi in front?
I need help, Vedan kills everyone when he uses ult
@dusty dock try moving Belinda bottom or use Rosa to double ult with shem
@flat bear
Nemora
-tasi
Lyca
-shemira
Rowan
(Hopefully shemira ult is good enough... otherwise can try Rowan Rosa Lucius fawkes)
@woven lichen
Tyvm sadly they just onehit both comps :p my rating ist about 2k and theirs 3k. Might need to wait more
@woven lichen I was using Rosa at first, no luck
@woven lichen thoran didnt help
@flat bear if you are getting steamrolled that badly, probably need Brutus then to at least delay with invulnerability... if shem can’t ult even after that... then probably power gap
Enemy nemora is not being charmed
Rosa dies the moment Brutus spins
@dusty dock try moving shem and Rosa bottom then... maybe even Rosa front and shem back
@final meteor do you have a Safiya? Could try Rowan in front across from Brutus and athalia at top to attack saveas
@inland kite does Arden help at all? If not can try replacing with seirus... ideally merc a Eironn
@woven lichen ok wait
im trying to merc eironn, legit sent out 5 merc applications
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Tasi did more damage than lyca lol
No luck, Rosa dies too quickly in either position
LOL my team melts enemy eironn
Vedan always starts ult first then everyone dies
@woven lichen thanks worked
How do I go about dealing most damage to wrizz and Soren?
@inland kite try shem, baden, rowan, rosaline, belinda/thane/isabella.. not sure which will work best in this context. the idea is hopefully belinda/thane/isabella does most burst dps and gets the execute within the first 15 secs.. then within the next 40 secs or so squeeze in as much dps as possible with shem.. to do that you can also go manual for the first 14-15 secs.. only do belinda ult and then continue auto after the first execute
shemira dies first btw, just 1 shot
ill try with thane belinda and isabella in the back
@strange plaza based on what units i can see.. it would probably be something like
Wrizz - shem, belinda, rowan, estrilda, lucius/raine/lorsan.. try each iteration a little.. if you have a rosaline somewhere that would be better.
Soren - lucius, warek, estrilda, rowan, shem. call on lucius.. you need to do a bit of manual.. auto the front part.. until warek has done 2 ults and is behind soren.. (or if the timing is not right manually cast lucius ult to tank charm) then go manual and cast everybody's ult except warek.. keep his positioning behind soren to tank charm
nah this las tattempt was only like 8m with belinda thane and isabella back
@inland kite the highest damager within the first 15 secs will die first.. its always a one shot.. its in the boss description.. belinda/thane/isabella is either or. as i mentioned the trick is to use an early burst unit to out dps shem in the first15 secs
yeah, its not doing much sadly, should i switch back to at least grez instead of isabella and keep belinda
what the hell, i dont know what rosaline just did but she got 1 shot first over shemira
well the highest damaging team is something like this belinda, shem, twins, rowan, rosaline.. belinda tanks the 15 sec execution.. twins swap with estrilda/baden also does pretty good damage if you dont have twins. its literally the meta.
i do have twins, they're merced
you need to adjust your gear as well to get the right balance.. but you have to understand what the comp is trying to achieve
does rosaline following shemira and using her ult have something to do with why she got 1 shotted first over her
no so after 15 secs.. the highest damager gets executed.. rosaline can do high dps due to her teacups.. and shem is a slow starter.. which is good in this case. thats why i recommended to manual dont ult .. just squeeze in a belinda ult and she would tank it.
then continue with auto after that
for me personally i had to put slightly worse gear on rosaline because i want belinda to be targeted.
i just hella overshot and got 56m
👍
from 26m
each boss has somewhat of a tricky mechanic. its not so simple like guild wrizz haha.. so yeah.. gotta find the sweet spot
yeah i havent gotten wrizz and soren down to like a science, i just work with whatever
whats the good comp for wrizz/soren without twins available
it'd probably be something like baden grez shemira belinda isabella for wrizz and shemira lucius belinda baden isabella?
for soren
@inland kite currently buffing units are very strong for bosses in general.. you would find that you do much better with 1 main dps and 4 buffers than 5 dps for eg.. since shem is your carry right now use her..
shem, rowan, rosaline (super good for boss), baden, estrilda
for soren you need to address the charm because charmed shemira is dead team.
probably lucius, baden, rosaline, rowan , shem... < but at a certain point you may need to manually cast lucius shield to block charms since baden's phantoms can get messy and the charm may still be targeted forwards after a few rounds.
yeah i have estrilda im gonna build since i have shemira 1 star
LOL it feels so good to to into a peak of time and 1 s hot everything
i just switched to using rosaline and shemira, thats it and they're both melting it all
Best lineup please
Saveas
Lucius
Lyca
Hogan/Brutus
Nemora/Arden
Until Saveas is E/E+ just keep using Belinda
@calm nova forgot to ping you
21-44 help
@brave belfry can you post a screenshot of you hero box ?
26-52, any suggestions given my roster? i could probably trial and error for a bit but i’m lazy
Anyone suffgest here?
@brave belfry hmmm it's not a simple decision. Can't you put your Shemira level 240 ? She needs to be overleveled to the maximum
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius/Brutus
Nemora
Nemora has to charm ennemy Brutus. Maybe Lucius will be too weak to cast his first ult
Should i make nemora or tasi into a L?
I'd say Tasi.
I'd say patient and wait.
Oh I misread, I thought you meant L+. In that case, do not ascend any of them, wait until you get one of them straight to L+
@outer mulch don't ascend either of them, you have to wait
help, mark me pls
pls help with my best lineup
Me stuck :C Am I just underleveled?
Possible without mercs ?
@pale kettle send your entire hero pool
@empty pulsar
@pale kettle to start with, stop making L if you cant go to L+.
Rosa
Lucius
Belinda
Brutus
Lyca
Should work until you pull a healer
@pale kettle you can also reset saveas rosa to 100 and dump exp into Belinda
Think u want rosa on bottom instead because of the assassin chick
@pale kettle Belinda is strong but Saveas will be stronger below 160. So put all your heroes lvl 100 and Saveas 140. Then :
Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Gorvo (or Lucius)
Wukong/Athalia (or Tasi when you open her)
If you ascend Belinda to L+ and can't get Saveas to L+ switch to the comp suggested by Thegrim
@limber slate she's called Silvina lol
Any ideas?
@limber slate
That is a brutal comp to face
Only thought I have is
Rowan
Athalia
Ferael
Grezhul
Shamira
Been using thoran Rowan Shem fera and Lucius and and this gets me closest to victory only to be decimated by athalia ult
Have you tried doing normal speed and time lucius shield with her ulti
I did to no avail
@cinder crag did u try geraz instead of luc? :)
@ashen mantle Sup :) Yeah I did but he is virtually useless
Whats the best lineup here?
Help
@umbral creek put Belinda lvl 160 and other hereos level 120. Keep your Niru fodder for Shemira when you get Shemira to L+ (you must always buy her in lab shop, ony her)
Then you can do :
Nemora
Belinda
Lucius
Hogan
Tasi
If Belinda dies before ult do :
Belinda
Hogan
Nemora
Lucius
Tasi
your DPS Carry must always be maximum overleveled compared to other heroes
Aight thanks :3
👍
Best wrizz lineup?
How i trade with people??
@warm pagoda you cant trade with people, also thats not a lineup question i think
Ohh sryy 😅
@sleek stone shemira, rowan, twins, belinda,rosa. you also put in lucius when your heroes go down too fast
Shemira,belinda front. Rosa,rowan,twins back?
Any ideas? Vedan tends to always give me issues :/
@sleek stone yes. shemira, rosa front would work as well
@empty pulsar you should try to kill him before he can ult. you can try
rosa/rowan
rowan/rosa
belinda
lucius
fawkes
belinda should attak the approaching vedan with this lineup
@limpid quail Belinda will always target the silvina when she jumps whomever, fawkes grabs vedan first.
Wilder tower floor 81 - is there a better team I can use to clear this?
@empty pulsar remove fawkes then and use nemora and put her top in opposite of isabella
@twin hare sawp tasi and nemora, maybe charming brutus helps chopping down the tree
thanks
@limpid quail silvina is still the focus as soon as she jumps, then vedan gets ult as silvina dies.
Can’t beat this, any tips?
@tall forge you can try
tasi
brutus
lyca
shemira
nemora
@graceful wind saveas or arden maybe
no saveas has no supp abilites, but you get the 3-2 faction bonus with him and additional damage on the bottom side of the battlefield. have you tried angelo then when he already was suggested?
I tried but didn't really work out
Saveas didn't really work as well, i might Just have to ascend my heroes and get better gear
Yo guys, can I fit my Belinda M+ in one of these teams?
Hi guys, this is what i got right now, im currently using Hogan, Estrilda, Shemira, Tasi and Fawkes, is there anything i should replace or run something completely different? im new to the game so i dont really know that much
Hi @analog glen even though you are new it's really good that you ask for tips to us here. The first tip I can give you is don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. Although you only did it on Hogan so that's perfectly fine. The team you are using is fine. You always need 1 DPS Carry in your team. pre level 160 Mirael will be stronger than Shemira, but right now your mirael is only E, so if you open another Mirael you can replace Shemira with Mirael. That being said keep buying Shemira in lab shop.
As for your team right now, level Shemira to 120 and put other heroes to level 90. Shemira or Mirael always need to be 30 levels ahead compared to other heroes. Then you can do :
Fawkes
Shemira
Estrilda
Hogan
Tasi
Hi @violet igloo thank you so much for the advice, ill make sure to remember that! also, i can make Mirael E+ right now, considering ur advice, i will do that till i get lvl 160 on her and replace her with shemira, right?
@analog glen yes that's ideal. Then your comp would be :
Fawkes
Hogan
Mirael
Estrilda
Tasi
alrighty, ill do that, thank you very much!
you're welcome, don't hesitate to ask more questions if you have a doubt 👍
will do for sure!
25-26. What to do? I cant survive Thane and Saveas
@hushed lance you have Shemira and Belinda in the same team, usually you'd want only 1 DPS carry, even though Shemira can be strong and tank a good chunk of damage. If you play Rosa who does she follow ?
Shemira, ive fries without Belinda with Brutus up too instead
If you take out Shemira, who does Rosa follow ? @hushed lance
@violet igloo ideas? I've tried a lot of things, but Belinda kills silvina while vedan gets ult and things go poorly from there haha.
I'm also thinking I could build arden to replace fawkes, and do nemora Rowan arden in back.
@empty pulsar Arden is only useful at lvl 141 when he can root 3 targets.
I suggest you put Mirael lvl 160 instead of Belinda, her ults is more effective. That being said keep in mind that you're playing a LB team vs GB ennemies, so ideally you'd want a few wilders in your team to get a little advantage. Try :
Fawkes
Lucius
Mirael
Lyca
Nemora/ Rowan/Tasi
@violet igloo wont lyca explode with only L gear at this point in the game?
she can dodge a few hits, you'll see. you'll have to do a few retries. The aim is to have her give hast to your whole team
I'm losing my patience ,help?
instead of 2 kills and dying to vedan, everyone just dies haha. @violet igloo
I'll have to keep trying some other things
@cloud fossil
Belinda
Lucius
Lyca
Brutus
Saveas
@empty pulsar in that case you just need more levels. Your DPS carry is has less levels than ennemy team. When you get everyone to 140, you can get shemira Mythic and then get her to stomp : )
is Lyca the pink horse girl @winter matrix
@violet igloo that's the plan haha, just need 2 more shem copies
Yes
good. You're on the right track, once you get Shemira you'll finally be able to harness her immense power : D
there would be no faction bonus if i use that team @winter matrix
Faction bonuses won't win you a fight
pink horse girl
that's a cute description. Faction bonus are important but not absolutely vital. You generally try and build a team around it but it depends what heroes you have and the ennemy comp. It's not uncommon to do certain stages without faction bonus
haha I'm still new so still learning all the names :P thx that's good to know
@cloud fossil here's my advice. Reset your heroes in order to put Shemira level 140 and all other heroes level 100. Then you can do :
Rosa
Shemira
Brutus
Lucius
Hogan
keep buying Shemira in Lab, and get to L+ ASAP. You can do this because your Saveas and Mirael will be level capped to 120, and you're not that far away from reaching lvl 160 and transitionning to Shemira so might aswell start doing it now. Ideally you can open more wilder heroes and get the wilder trio backling which works really well (Tasi Lyca Nemora). But only buy Shemira in Lab
cool cool I will do just that 👌
idk why I never thought of making that Shem+Rosa combo
it should work pretty good on paper. Let us know your results ! 

Any suggestions for the special boss in frozen?
You don't actually have to fight this boss if you move the explosives to the right twice
Doesn't that boss unlock the last two treasures?
Yea, but if you blow up the camp you don't have to fight him
The explosives will make a chain reaction to the NE boss, and you can collect your reward
How do you get past this area if it isn't tied to that boss?
defeat it with Skregg or Vurk in your team @ember bough
It isn't linked to any boss
the camp that's in front of that rock
Ah, ok ty
no problem 👌 however please asks these questions in #classic-questions this channel here if for lineup-help : )
Replace Mehira for Rowan and Rosaline for Fawkes
@violet igloo it didn't work out quite so we'll, everything died in seconds 
no problem 👌 however please asks these questions in #classic-questions this channel here if for lineup-help : )
@violet igloo for sure, it was originally a lineup question to beat that unnecessary boss 😂
Possible without merc?
well I beat the hard mode lab at least
Any ideas lol dude is invincible
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Estrilda
Belinda
Safiya
Eironn
Mirael
Hogan
Isabella
So reset arden?
Yea
Sorry if i ask too much
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Brutus
Shemira
Also only level your top 5 so reset Saveas and Ira @swift sparrow
Any help?
I feel like I'm just underleveled, but in case there's any smart strats, I'll ask for some help. Hogan does way too much damage while arden's CC is insane. I feel like my saveas doesn't do enough damage to kill either Frontline in time before my entire team dies. I've tried swapping arden in with nemora but doesn't do much most of the time
25-29. Any changes to my setup? Only Lucius gets to ult
@rigid galleon put saveas in front where tasi is. You can try swapping tasi and arden for best result
@rigid galleon arden isnt too strong before 141, so what you have may work best already :)
@hushed lance put Rowan in the middle.
Also bare in mind you are using a LB comp vs a graveborn comp so you have a little disadvantage. Playing more wilder can help :
That being said have you tried :
Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Rosa
Okay saveas in the front definitely seems better on average, I'll give it a couple more tries to see if I get lucky
That did the trick thanks!
@rigid galleon np
@violet igloo yeah I know, it’s a real struggle :). I’ve tried to setup you suggested, can’t get Shemira ult to go off. Might wait a lvl or 2
@hushed lance do you have Ferael ? At your level Ferael with SI+20 will prove to be much stronger than Shemira.
And Ferael works wonderfully well with LB comp 👌
I dont have him
Its sooo hard to get a purple nowadays
@violet igloo thanks for the tips though
Past chap 24 Ferael becomes staple as the best carry into these chapters.
Oh im kinda new to this game wht is lb
LB = LightBearer
Ohh
oops I just realized I pinged the wrong person my bad
I was replying to Johntheman about Ferael.. 
Hahaha thats why
@hushed lance The thing is Shemira shines much less in a comp when she's not overleveled by +20 or +40 levels. That's why after lvl 250 the best option is to transition to another DPS Carry. You can go Belinda and full LB comp, another solution is to play Ferael with Wilder / LB comp, Ferael + Nara + Tasi Lyca Nemora is also decent.
Past chap 24 Ferael becomes staple as the best carry into these chapters.
@violet igloo u have tips for me 😊😊
@haughty plinth reset your heroes to 100 and put Belinda at least 20 levels higher.
Belinda
Brutus
Numisu
Hendrick
Fawkes
@haughty plinth also avoid taking heroes to L if you cant go L+, you can get stuck with a level cap easily that way
@haughty plinth I see you have legendary belinda so my first tip is : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. The best plan is to not ascend A tier heros past E+ til you have 8 copies with the exception of Shemira because she is a shop hero and will take over as carry when you can level her to 161, and also Saveas and/or Mirael because they are carries pre-160.
Continue buying Shemira in lab shop, and maybe try and get Mirael Legendary. And you have to have you carry be +20/30 levels ahead compared to your other heroes. So with this in mind, Get Belinda to level 140 and reset other heroes to lvl 100. Then you can try :
Belinda
Brutus
Fawkes
Hendrik
Lyca
@violet igloo copycat. :D
@haughty plinth get Belinda lvl 140 and others 100.
also @empty pulsar not copycat, Lyca will be better she'll give haste. Numisu is less useful at this stage 😉
@haughty plinth after a few days you'll probably open more hereos so your line up could evolve
Any tips?
Would like to end this chap...
@shy crag Athalia to cc Arden with an Lb comp + shem should beat it
@sharp plank I mean u could try swap out talene and rosa for lyca and tasi if u haven't already. Then just retry until nemora charms ferael
No luck
@shy crag well you really need your Shemira to be level 240, and for that to happen you'd need Brutus M+... So keep farming scrolls until you can uncap Shemira's level
@sharp plank try
Fawkes
Brutus
Belinda
Shemira
Rosa
@violet igloo i thought so...
Do I keep this team and just level them or do I have a better combo that I'm missing?
@slender echo reset shemira and put Saveas level 120 and other heroes level 80. Then you can play :
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Skreg
Nemora
Thanks, I'll give that a go
24-50
@final meteor try
Nemora
Brutus
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
Nemora needs to charm ennemy brutus
@shy crag
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
nemora
@violet igloo thane brutus numisu still alive
@winter matrix you are aware you can't put 2 same heroes right ? :DDD
Yea, I sometimes dont even think. The second tasi was ment to be nemora
Well it didnt work anyway. I will probably really want for shem to be 240
Hmm for some reason mine didn’t post. Any suggestions on a good line up for me?
@final meteor keep trying until nemora charms ennemy brutus , you'll get it eventually.
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Belinda/Nemora/Tasi
@modern tapir first tip : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. The best plan is to not ascend A tier heros past E+ until you have 8 copies of them. The exception to this rule is Shemira because you can buy her from Lab store she will take over as your main carry DPS when she reaches level 161 + Saveas and/or Mirael because they are carries pre-160. You need to focus your fodder on a few heroes, not on all of them
You have 5 heroes who are legendaries that are currently "stuck" in L, you could have used that fodder elsewhere. Your next step is to get Shemira to M then to feed her Vedan so that she can be M and put her immediatly level 180.
Ah ok, I had it backwards, I thought the it was don't ascend to M without more copies.
as for right now, your lineup can be :
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
for example
Mkay, I'll give it a shot. You think I should take Brutus off of the crystal and get him to 141? I can currently level 1 person to 141 atm.
I can currently reset Vedan and put Brutus 141, and I can buy shemira next time shop resets.
You can't get Brutus to 141. He's L and his cap is 140
Ah that's right. My bad, thanks cwonk and paddy.
@violet igloo i swapped nemora and eironn and it worked
@final meteor there you go 🙂 gratz 💪
@vale flax I think i have never seen so much legendary heroes that are stuck in legendary. At your level it's less of a problem but try to not put them L if you can't pget them to L+ after. For example if you hadn't ascended Raine and Estrilda, you could now put your Lucius to M+ and your Shemira to level 240, this would make you clear the level easily.
Yea i know
Thats a big problem for me indeed
But you know how to clear it?
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes
Ty did it
Any tips to not get absolutely wrecked in this?
@plush patrol
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
24-54 any help? Rowan and eironn ult, but not enough dmg
@violet igloo cant get arden to last long enough to even get his root off ;x
try putting him mid
@violet igloo kay sent nemora top. still seem to get wrecked though xD
The goal of nemora is to charm Brutus
Yeah I tried switching her bot and putting lyca top to die from khasos. going a little better but still dying
Got it. switching shem top away from brutus seemed to work better
@plush patrol can also try with lucius > brutus
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Lucius
Lyca
Or lose faction bonus if you need to get through brutus shield and run fawkes > Lyca and manual his ulti
Ahhhh. No heals
thats why i use talene, no luck on even a single rowan yet
I've got a few ideas, waiting for goth though
Shem, lyca, nem, tasi, brutus are the norm for shem carry...
For what you're trying with shem+LB try Shem, Rosa, Luc, raine, fawkes
i have nem tasi and lyca but theyre all low level elites sadly
Almost the same
I'd try shem rosa lucius fawkes and brutus, but raine can definitely work well
@echo bloom that's what resonance slots are for...
yeah just tried, raine and fawkes get insta gibbed
Post the level
they even useful at such a low ascension level? aeems any elite/E+ i try to put in gets instantly dead
Depends where you put them and what kills them
I'm in 18 farming running e+ copies...
Oh lets change that.
Fawkes
Lucius
Raine
Shem
Rosa
If no raine
Fawkes
Lucius
Rosa
Brutus
Shem
yup they both got instagibbed again with lucius and shem died just as she popped out her first ult
Have you moved your best gear to those 5?
@echo bloom this is how I beat it but my raine was e+ and bel only M
@zinc stump you took bel to M?! Shame! Haha (I assume you had 2x E+ waiting?)
yup tried that exact lineup same thing except this time shem died before even getting the ult off
@empty pulsar yes. Just not the fodder
@zinc stump thought so
@echo bloom how is your gear on shem?
@echo bloom swap shem into slot 2. It can make a difference...
not sure why i didnt think of that lol, well that stage is down then lol
well got up 4 levels and stopp
Swap shem again and try again...
did and got even worse, the brutus below decimates them
Swap your back row around and keep trying. Grab your afk and see if you can 180 shem. Bel and shem should be about equal in passing ch14... if M bel can pass it M shem should as well.
yeah 180 will take a couple days of afk lol
@echo bloom did you try arden
Warek is the only mauler i have enough of to make into L+. But I have 3 copies of Skreg and Khasos and extra lab coins to buy a 4th. Should I upgrade Warek and risk being stuck at Mythic+ forever, Or should I use the lab coins to build a Skreg or Khasos? I feel like Skreg or Khasos would be the safe choice, I plan to put the hero I upgrade on the top 5 in my resonating crystal. I will for sure be able to make 1 of those 2 ascended eventually. Anyone have any thoughts or opinions? I have almost no experience with any of the 3 maulers and dont know who's good end game, any advice is appreciated!
Why are u focusing on maulers?
Which should I upgrade
You don’t have enough fodder yet
Hi guys, is Hendrick good enough to replace estrilda in a line-up? im currently using Hogan Estrilda Mirael Tasi Fawkes
i just got 2 copies of E Hendrick and got him E+ while estrila is only E
Fawkes
Hendrik
Mirael
Hogan
Estrilda/Tasi
@analog glen
oh hi again @violet igloo 😄 i just pulled hendrick and looked online and hes apparently s tier, thats why i asked, should i keep estrilda or tasi in there?
@granite ravine here's an important tip for you : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. Right now you have 7 heroes who are stuck in L. The best plan is to not ascend A tier heros past E+ until you have 8 copies of them. The exception to this rule is Shemira because you can buy her from Lab store she will take over as your main carry DPS when she reaches level 161, and also Saveas + Mirael because they are carries pre-160.
@split peakI already have an ascended shemira and belinda, My Tasi and Rosaline are both mythic with enough copies to make ascended. Figured i should use my mauler fodder to begin working on the 5th eventual ascended.
@analog glen yeah he's not bad in early game for sure.
@analog glen in late game he isn't rated as high.
i understand, also, my mirael is stuck on 120 till i go legendary on her, should i keep the resources to lvl up when i get her to L+ or just lvl up the whole team to 120 and focus on getting her L+?
post your box @analog glen
I see. Keep her 120 and save all LB fodder for her. Put other heroes to 101 that's your goal right now.
Fawkes
Hogan
Mirael
Hendrik
Tasi
that's actually not a bad team.
Also save all your graveborn fodder for shemira and keep buying her in lab 👍
alrighty, thank you very much!
just wish i could get fawkes to E+ already, didnt drop any after i got this one
Best team that I can make for wrizz/soren?
@analog glen very important : reset Fawkes and level Arden instead, then put fawkes in crystal. That way you'll be able to put fawkes over lvl 100 if needed
@analog summit
Belinda
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Baden
oh, thats a neat trick, ill do that if i dont get him E+ till i get enough xp to get him 101
thank you so much!
@analog summit also a quick tip for you : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. Right now you have 4 L heros that are stuck in L. The best plan is to not ascend A tier heros past E+ until you have 8 copies of them. The exception to this rule is Shemira because you can buy her from Lab store she will take over as your main carry DPS when she reaches level 161, and also Saveas + Mirael because they are carries pre-160.
@violet igloo I do have copy of hogan and arden just waiting for some fodder for silvina and I will get bdlinda from finishing chapter 10 that will make her L+, I'm just waiting to make 1 more hero to L before I ascend others to L+
Best 3 teams for Challenger Tournament? And what should i pick for Wrizz or Soren?
Indeed, but it's best to wait until you have the E+ copy. I don't see your Hogan copy ? Also for example if you didn't put Belinda or Hogan to L, then you could put right now your Fawkes to L+
I really wanna make saveas L+ but lacking so much mauler fodders right now however I can make fawkes L+ but not sure if I make 3 LB L+ will probably need lots of fodders
imagine fodder is like a ressource, it's best to concentrate it in your top 5 heroes, not distribute it to multiple heroes that you don't use
Here is tons of hogans which I can make E+
Make him L+ then, so when your belinda gets L+ you can put her Mythic.
I will need 1 more L+ for crystal if I feed him to belinda
Or just leave crystal heroes to 120?
Someone told me this was my most optimal lineup? Was confusing so I thought I'd ask for an opinion
@tulip gale the best is to make 2 teams that work around synergies and faction bonuses, and the 3rd team is where you try and fit all the rest the best you can.
Waiting on crystal cd to bypass base elites
@tulip gale Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
Athalia
Ulmus
Twins
Brutus
Orthos/Numisu/...
Also, it's incredible that you have so many stars on shemira, rosa. Just to make sure, you're not buying Shemira in the lab shop right ? You must stop buying heroes in the lab when they are ascended.
yea i got lucky with my pulls
i need bit more food for belinda then i can upgrade all to 240+ got 5 elite+ belindas waiting around the corner. i saved up a long ass time lol
Is that my best lineup? I've been using ulmus taeline and luc but theyve been getting melted lately, someone yesterday told me that comp will roll all the way past ch15+
yea they are good hero's but that guy didnt tell you to lvl them first i supose? 😄 as lvl 1 they wont do a hole lot :p
I said up there I'm waiting on crystal CD
Cause I'm switching over to level arden and sav to get them past 120
i added rowan instead of fawkes in my line up
for more surviveability since shemira does enough dps to carry solo
My Rowan is just elite, my fawkes has half legendary gear already, the man started to do some serious bdamage
Oh shem isnt in my lineup that was suggested to me
shem is pretty much the best pick. easiest to get to ascended and hardcarry
Yeah right now Belinda is miles ahead just through mythic and +13 sig (thanks winter event!)
and then i went with rosaline. she follows the strongest hero and makes him ult 2-3 times more. so my shemira just ults every couple of seconds and melts the enemy team. the rest is making sure they stay alive so i got lucius/rowan/belinda they all shield & heal while belinda does good dmg aswell
I cant get rosa to follow shemeria if Belinda is out, and I cant bench belinda anyway
yea dont force it. just pick a good 5 solid picks and invest in them alone. if you later on get enough copies and food to get a better hero you can always "reset" a hero and you get back everything you invested into it
@violet igloo the line up you send me does that also include the hero order? as in spot 1/2/3/4/5?
@frail hawk for example the 2nd lineup you send me. Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
Yeah idk if this lineup is the play I'm getting rocked and rolled HAHA
Current line up is Belinda, Grezhul, Tasi, Athalia and Estrilda. Any replacements for them? I can buy anything from the Labyrinth Store
24-54
@shell holly shemira from lab store. Lots of shemira
@shell holly also dont make heroes L if you cant go L+ you can get stuck without copies.
Can really use some guidance. Spent $ and been stuck for 3 of my first 7 days. Feel like im doing leveling all wrong
@tulip gale
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
Help please need suggestions, @me
@supple spruce put Shemira lvl 130 and others lvl 90.
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus/Lucius
Tasi
@violet igloo wont the assassin just run thru them super fast at lvl 90? shemira can solo this at 130?
@supple spruce yes Shemira always needs to be highest level possible so she can tank, ult and selfheal
@glossy yarrow Brutus is best mauler tank
Guys can I fit Belinda M+ in one of these teams??
@onyx basin replace her with maybe Nara (only because she's E+) or Khasos maybe. When she's ascended definitely Khasos. Seems like you need to ascend Nara or get Thoran or Grezhul
@violet igloo I got Thoran and Grezh but they are also E+
Need help on 16-36
Anyone have any tips for 21-60?
What's the best team I can get for Wrizz? I got about 30+ million using
rosa
-shem
rowan
-lucius
belinda
Do you have twins? Twins or lorsan might be better than belinda @sudden meteor
Need help on 16-36
@still oar I will try lorsan since I don't have twins
good (insert time of day) everyone. please I need help. im currently stuck and don't know who I should invest in anymore. here's my lineup
and here is my ascension problem. please any advice? im currently on ch16-13 looking to shoot all the way to ch20 at least
@willow zephyr your problem is you've spread your fodder around and no real direction. Pick 1 hero in a faction and that's who gets the fodder. It's best to wait for 8 copies before going past e+ except for shem because shes a shop buy. To get to Ch20 you need an A carry so do some more draws and build some fodder...
thing is,my luck on draws hasn't been all that good. as you see my current leading hero is brutus,but my most invested is Kelthur. is he sufficient alone,or do I mix him with Nemora because she is going to be my first A unit?
24-54 eironn and Rowan get to ult but can’t kill
Line up direction and what to put on crystal ?
Brutus Incase you have to tank saveas
Twins for gh, twisted realms and dungeons. Also good in campaign
Safiya, lorsan, fawkes, Arden can catch up
What would be my best lineup against evil nemora
Gh? Don’t know all the abbreviations yet
Rosa
Shem
Rowan
Estrilda
For the 5th maybe grezhul, lyca. Belinda can be good too be she is too strong and Rosa won't be following shemira if she is in.
Do you have twins @pale kettle?
Guild hunt. Wrizz and soren @tulip whale
Try
Belinda
Luc
Rowan
Tasi(rosa)
Rosa(tasi)
@young remnant
Any tips on how to continue from here?
@still oar Thanks, I'll try that
Slowly build fodder (legendary tiers l+) so you can ascend heroes vertically. Such a as shemira into mythic,
Really, you need to mind where is the fodder is put @limber dune
@still oar yeah, I noticed I’ve been recklessly using my fodders such as onto Raine. I’ll keep that in mind, thank you!
@still oar Grezhul acquired more points than Lyca
Awesome 👍
The good team is estrilda shem in the front rowan twins and rosa in the back
Is it worth it to spend 1k diamonds to buy another shemira on lab store? This way I'd be able to l+ her
Can anyone help. Hit such a roadblock early and feel like im doing somethign wrong with leveling and been vlocked 3 of my first 7 days
Take Angelo and Hogan out and resonate luc, nemora and lyca
Try something along brutus lyca saveas nemora tasi or if you okay with shemira as early carry luc lyc Shem Rosa tasi and make Rosa following Shem for double ult or just fast ult combo @fading bramble
10-19. Thoughts?
Maybe
Lyca(tasi)
Luc
Rowan
Brutus
Saveas.
And maxing saveas first would increase your chances since death is strong cc @earnest flume
Thnx I'll try
Anyone got suggestions for 25-44? 😭
@lone maple I did it but replaced brutus with lucius
Need some suggestions for 25-48..
Okie I’ll try that! I think my Lucius just died too quick lol
Help
@lone maple I had chalice on lucius, blade on shem, conviction of ferael, call on Rowan, and grace on thoran. It took some rng to get it done but that is the line up I used. If it doesn't work hopefully someone else can chime in and help
I’ll keep running it and hopefully one of them Lucius is able to ult and give me hope 🙏🙏
So let me get straight u upgraded nara to over 160 but left lucius stuck at 180?
Its my and my daughters account and for some reason she thought Nara needed it. LoL. I wasn't happy.
Reset nara to lvl 160
Ok
One lvl200 hero is better than 2 at 180
So, pump up Lucius to 200 then work on the others?
Yep
Will do. Cuz as of now, I am getting demolished.
U need to get lucius and shem up to 240 asap
I learned that the hard way
carry>tank>support is what someone told me a while back :) shem 240 makes a whole world of a difference
Also with shem u need her si at lvl20
Anyway to get purple cocaine without spending?
Grind time my dude
Tower, store, peaks
I am 26k away from my 5th lvl240
mmm i would do +20 only if you have extra though bc many say to leave her at +10? idk haha
- afk
- store
- quests/refresh
- kt
- voyage of wonders
- pot
- instant dust thingies
Grind time and no more letting my daughter level up my characters.
also champions of esperia (so do your labs!)
To get to lvl20 u only need silver and gold emblems not red ones
I have her si at 17 right now. Still working on it.
20 will give u a huge boost
gold emblems are sparse for me rn 😂
milky i wouldnt recommend taking her past +20 though, and many would alr advise against +20
i made her +17 so Bel wouldn't overtake her for the time being
also it's good to get crystal up but always overlevel your carry
U will soon be able to buy gold emblems for 7 mill gold so its not so hard to get them to lvl20
Shem is stuck til all are at 180. But I will work on Lucius before I move the others.
:0 seriously
that's amazing, thanks for the info
my 400m gold will finally have purpose lol
Thats the way
Dont waste it though gold gets as usable as dust pretty soon
Gets to be*
Can you post your whole hero screen?
Put shem up front
And u are doing urself a huge disservice by having one lvl240 and a lvl220 crystal u are much better off having more lvl240s
@viscid adder
Hi guys I'm stuck on 17-24 for a few days now. Is there some better comp I can change up to? Any help would be much appreciated ty!
Try
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora
Shem
Rowan
The trick is to charm ferael before his 1st scream @lilac nebula
Get Saveas to L+ as soon as possible, then you can do
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi
As soon and safely as possible*
stuck help pls
@cwonk what do I need to go from E+ to L+, all the other ascensions I've made have been easy using just multiple copies, but I don't know what I need to build now to straight from E+ to L+
from e+ to L u need two other e+ copies of the same faction,then u need an e+ copy of the same hero that u want to ascend from L to L+
you could type ".ascensionguide" on #545929173471068170 but bot is down atm
Stuck on my 2nd account, any tips?
@cloud fossil thanks!
Would you feed warek and golus to Saveas? I have them 2 at E+ to make Saveas L, then I have an E+ Saveas to go to L+.... Is that right?
Helppp :'( can't get past this labyrinth level, tried about all possible combinations of the heroes displayed
Nothing? :T
I mean labyrinth is just sonething you do every 2 days without thought you shouldn't struggle with it. You can fail then fight them again with another team to finish them off if you're struggling.
put Belinda behind Lucius in bottom,if still fail switch Lyca with the twins
Thx : ) @cloud fossil
Put Tasi in the middle so Nemora don't get pulled
What should I buy from lab shop when I already bought shem?
Hey, Someone an idea? 🙂 ty
@mortal flax you will still need to buy 3 more shemiras, 1 if you haven't gotten the rewards from The Divine Realm peaks or completing chapter 15, you need 2 E+ for Ascended after mythic
LS for Belinda @pale kettle
So spend all scrolls on light?
@pale kettle you either go wilder or LB at your point in the game to build a solid team that will take you to late game, you have a pretty decent lb team building up and have already invested in Lucius to M, would be a good idea to finish the core LBs first
What is lb? 😅
Lightsaber i suppose
Lightbearer
oh
my bad it's lightbearer
@subtle talon try
Arden
Saveas
Rowan
Brutus
Lucius/Tasi
why Saveas front
He's overlevelled and works up front if you support him with the right team
Wait so all for lb
Yh only focus one faction at a time when using faction scrolls, you can do Wilders later
Got belinda
Also i buy all the dust from the shop for gold everyday whats another good way to farm it?
Peaks of time, arcane lab, and resetting bounty board when it is lvl 6+
It's a good source of dust for the first time you do it, guess you can't 'farm' it
yeah
No point refreshing at that level, just go with what you get until lvl 6/7 bounty board
@rain oriole yeah I know I still need some more shemira but yesterday was the shop reset and it's lab event or should I just also get the shop refresh for 1000 diamonds and buy more shem?
@mortal flax just save all your lab coins and wait for Shemira, you can save until 100k coins,
Okay thanks
Team for soren and wrizz?
Try using this:
Lucius and Baden on the front,
Shemira, Rosaline, and Belinda on the back
Rosaline should follow either Shem or Bel to get those energy points to good use @naive kindle
You could also use Silvina in place of Bel against Soren so that your team can survive his initial charm attempt
Ait ty
Guys any tips how go beat
@pale kettle isnt saveas good tho?
Yes, he's great, but if you're considering on using Rosaline then he won't be able to use her energy boosts to its max potential. You'd have to wait for his ult to expire before he's able to use the energy lended by Rosa again
Some heroes like Bel, Shem, and Mirael are able to take full advantage of the boosts and would deal greater damage compared to Sav/Rosa team. @naive kindle
@silver forum assuming this is a peaks of time, might need fire+icebringer and tasi
@pale kettle ait ty
@final meteor this is last to beatnto take fire
I think you are a bit underleveld
@silver forum as in the elite relics Firebringer and Icebringer
I found this lvl kinda hard untill I got the good relics (fire / ice, poison kazz, etc) and more levels
Here to go?
@silver forum restart the map until you get them
24-54 help pl0x
@final meteor not sure what other units are available to you.. would be good to give a second screen of your units too
maybe
eironn
rowan
lyca
lucius
nemora/tasi
or let rowan tank athalia.
Need some help before i make over 9000 tries
Hmm double banish for your Shemira. Also Shemira will be getting bleed (half hp regeneration) in that position.
So I'd try to disable one of the Tasi units (Athalia can lock 1x Tasi for some time) and move Shemira out of Bleed damage range.
Okay ty. I’ll merc an athalia then. And shemira backline? @sacred badge
Yes Back line makes sense to avoid bleed as much as possible.
With Bleed avoided and at least one of the two Tasi controlled, you have a good chance. Fawkes can also disable somebody, might try him.
Thx! Will try this.
Currently aroudn top 50 on server, f2p. Any tips on how to improve my lineup?
@pale kettle have you tried making gwyn 240 instead of shem?
Could try a team like
Lucius
Rowan
Gwyn
Arthur
Rosa/lyca/tasi
No problem! Hopefully it works 😄
Any tips?
@quartz oyster Try Brutus Lucius Front row with Tasi Rowan Belinda back
For campaign
For guild hunting, you could give this comp a shot:
Rosaline and Lucius up front
Belinda, Rowan, Silvina/Baden on the back
make sure Rosaline's close to Bel @quartz oyster
@shy mesa like for labyrinth i use the same comp as pve right?
@quartz oyster Sure, you can switch things as needed
And a soren comp?
that applies to both wrizz and soren 👀
@pale kettle but i dont have a silvina good ascended thats a problem no?
not necessary, the reason why I prefer her especially against Soren is so you can avoid his initial charm attempt. as long as she has the best gear she should be fine @quartz oyster
Ok thx for the help guys 😄
Try using this:
Grez/Baden and Lucius up front
Belinda, Rosaline, Kelthur on the back
If you have any anti-cc heroes like Fawkes or Nara, replace Kelthur with them and try to target enemy Nemora @golden crown
If you can pinpoint which enemy causes the most havoc against your team, try to eliminate them first. Battles are usually fairly easy once these nuisances are killed
@quartz oyster Try Savaes over Belinda... He's your primary damage dealer anyhow I dunno why I didn't count him initially, and tell me who dies first if they ult and why you think you lose
@shy mesa not now XD i have belinda mhytical
Well make sure she has highest level
yeah i will go afk some days and buy some mhytical gear for her
Help
Having some trouble with the stage, any advice for it?
Reset Angelo and Arden and then lvl Ira to 160
Lyca
Wukong
Mehira
Hogan
Ira
Thank you
Been stuck on this one for a couple of days now. Any suggestions?
@scarlet pebble
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Nemora
Reset until Saveas gets charmed
That lineup performs worse in every way than what I'm using. Dies faster, kills nothing, and Lucius dies before Nemora gets the charm on Saveas
Switch Brutus and Lucius
Brutus lives for 5 seconds, so barely longer than Lucius did, and Saveas doesn't have the damage to do any good
@scarlet pebble reset saveas to 120, there is no need to have him at 141 when you dont even use him as carry, make belinda 160 and push lucius afterwards. then try it with
rosa
lucius
rowan
brutus
belinda
@graceful wind
Belinda
Brutus
Rowan
Estrilda
Ulmus/Gwyneth
Rowan gets killed immediately
Which faction and which hero should i focus on tiering up next? I feel like I’ve hit a wall
Is there a noticeable jump in quality of life/noticeable difference between a lvl 146 L+ vs Mythic?
You can build a Belinda, as she can be bought in challenger store after patch
kinda of stuck until i can get shemira copies/her to 161, and Belinda could be a quick first mythic right now if its a noticeably jump/helps on campaign etc
Wait she is in challenger store after patch?! That’s a great news!! Thanks for the heads up
yeah thats also good to know here - wouldnt feel bad boosting her now or later lol
Bel, Eironn, Antandra, and..... some gb
Baden
baden
nice on eironn in store, too
Okok i’ll focus on them
The non gb options are all viable
sorry to be a broken record, but if everyone is L or L+ and lvl 146, with Saveas at 160, should i boost Belinda to mythic? noticeable difference? idk why id hold off rly at this point but if im overlooking something, id rather ask first and hear y'alls input 😄
Baden > grezhul?
Baden has less uses than Grezhul. Grezhuls +20 SI is really good, and most people only use Baden for Soren
@frozen wave Make sure you have 5 other L+'s first. Don't wanna screw yourself on cap. After that you're free to M her
Hmm... okay Err.. it’s a dilemma huh
In that case, i feel like grezhul will be more useful considering faction tower as well
bat guy and niru won't be killed by shemira at all, what to do?
also have those, what to do? that's stage 8-20
Guys can you give me qn advice what linup I should be using at my current level?
Ch8 is really hard with a low lvl crystal.
Get your heroes to lvl 100.
Belinda
Lucius
Shemira
Brutus
Skriath/Saveas @zenith urchin
@worthy bane cool so u mean if i have her and the rest L+ in crystal over all L+, i can go for Mythic'ing her rn? is it a noticeable jump from L+ to mythic at the same lvl under 161?
Belinda
Grezhul
Lyca
Thoran
Fawkes @harsh crown
@frozen wave Since you get sig, yes. And yeah you're fine with others L+
thanks @winter matrix
@quaint gazelle awesome, tyvm man. planning on making Nemora L+ to make sure theres all M and L+ in crystal and hold off on Arden (since i find myself using her a lot more than him, and love her heals tbh)
and still keep a mythic plus everyone else L+ in crystal until i can safely make more mythics to 161 (shemira) etc
could boost Gorvo, Arden, or Nemora to L/L+ first and feel like she helps me the most in a pinch, with saveas at 160 before shemira can hit 161
Wrong @ lol, but seems right imo, Nem/Tasi/Lyca are best for wilds ascentions
but bel to mythic seems sensical if its a decent jump for first mythic in camp, etc
Only ascend the heroes you can get to L+. Don't get them to L so you wont get stuck
stuck in terms of crystal lvling u mean?
In terms of having too many L heroes, wasting your fodder
basically just make sure everyone in crystal is L+/mythic and above and then besides that its fine to boost some characters for first mythics etc?
@novel adder wow it actually worked.... using lucius nemora
ok that makes sense! tyvm as always, @winter matrix
just took Arden to L+, got Belinda to Mythic, and just saw that apparently signature items are avilable now... if i have that currency to boost her sig item, should i? and if so, how high schould i take it for now, if anywhere at all?
Just unlocking her SI is fine. Belindas SI isn't one you should be focusing on
Belinda +10 imo. Good enough there and always useful @frozen wave
After I ascend a hero to L+ should i wait until i have enough copies to send them straight to ascended?
If its a hero that is easily available feel free to get them to M
Depends on the hero truly. Rule 1 is ALWAYS be able to pass level caps
@worthy bane awesome tvvvvm man!! that helps a ton as a total nub to sig items
Personally with my two accounts I have one at +20 and one at +0(just now going +10) and as long as you use Belinda and have some decent lbs it's a good sig
ok roger that, took it to 4 for now (thought i could use the higer upgrade items on it but only had enough to take to +4, but seems like her power jumped close to my 160 saveas carry. gonna run camp and lab/kings tower now and hope it does the trick 😉
22-10 Anyway for me to beat this?
Get crystal to 200
👍 sounds good
Help plz
Any advice for this?
Swap Lucius and Athalia @brisk heart
Any ideas for mine
@grave hollow add a good estrilda or khasos for ur 5th @grave hollow
That doesn't seem to work. Athalia and Izold keep dying. I think the Grezhul and the Seirus are my biggest problems
Somehow Grezhul is getting about half a dozen minions summoned within the first few seconds
Rowan seems to be dying quite a bit as well, almost all from Grezhul
Maybe it'd help if I showed my relics, hang on
24-60 please;
@dawn pewter yeah don’t do that
@final meteor Try
Nem
Shem
Eironn
Rowan
Lyca
@worthy bane rowan cant ult even if he dodges first athalia hit
Maybe try Thoran there then @final meteor
Or run chalice/Grace on Rowan. Help his survivability
Oof worked
Is Tasi, Nemora, Lyca, Eironn, Lucius a good comp? Anyone I should switch out for someone better?
24-60 send help
@old ridge scroll up for Free's comp, just did it at Crystal 252
Lyca
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Nemora
Retry until Nemora charms Ferael, and and see if that works
Try placing Shemira vs Ferael and Brutus in top?
yup did that also.. i think im just too weak ;-;
You'll probably need a 240 Shemida for this
@charred compass
rosaline/lyca
brutus
rowan
shemira
nemora
? charming ferael
isabel too op xd even after killing ferael, isabel destroys everyone else :^)
Any tips for 10-40?
@charred compass you're playing 3 Lightbearers vs full graveborn team, so that's not an advantage. That being said your best comp right now is
Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Lyca
Lyca + Shemira have to nuke Ferael if possible. Does Lucius cast his ult? Once u get Shemira to 240 this will be easy.
@violet igloo
@rough bay this is my first tip : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. Theoretically the best plan is to not ascend A tier heros past E+ until you have 8 copies of them. The exception to this rule is Shemira because you can buy her from Lab store she will take over as your main carry DPS when she reaches level 161, and also Saveas + Mirael because they are carries pre-160.
Here you have used fodder to get 4 heroes stuck (not counting Shemira). If you hadn't ascended Izold, then the 2 E+ Graveborn fodder could have gone towards Shemira to get her from L+ to M when you unlock her L+
@rough bay oh sweet jesus you actually have 8 heroes stuck in Legendary
@rough bay so my advice is to immediately stop ascending your heroes to L and plan ahead on where you put your fodder heroes, it's best to concentrate your fodder only on top 5 heroes to get them ascended.
@rough bay meanwhile, here is your team comp. Reset heroes to 140 and put Belinda 170
Belinda
Gorvo
Rowan
Tasi
Lyca
@violet igloo now me 😙
thank you!
Suggestions?
Switch Lyca for Rowan and overlevel Saveas
Saveas and rowan the ultimate carries
I’d have to use items to add more levels
@pale kettle I'd say
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan/Estrilda
Brutus/Thoran
Fawkes
You are at the end of early-game and entering mid game however there is a slight problem you only have 2 Shemira unless I'm mistaken. Shemira is the best carry to take over Saveas past lvl 161+ you need to buy her in lab until she's ascended. Also you should have kept the fodder that you put into Thoran for Shemira. From now on only keep graveborn fodder for Shemira until she's ascended
From PoT i can get 1 shemira and lab i almost have enough for another so i can have her at mythic+
And yes i regret ascending thoran T_T
@analog summit don't ascend heroes to Legendary unless you can put them L+ straight after.
Try :
Belinda
Hogan
Rowan/Rosa
Lucius
Fawkes/Rosa
@pale kettle it's not a big error don't worry :) it's just that you will be a bit delayed on getting your juicy Shemira to Mythic
Having huge problems doing this king floor 50 gb
@hushed gyro put Nara in the crystal
Shemira
Grezhul
Isabella
Nara
Thoran
@hushed gyro why is Thoran 120?? Reset him and put him in crystal. Take out Kelthur
Because crystal was full and had a ton of spare essence and completely forgot about lvl caps before 160 stuck here forever haha
Any help? 11-36
@meager sedge might sound crazy but try
Tasi
Lyca
Athalia
Lucius
Nemora
Nemora needs to charm ennemy arden
Nope. Nemora is too slow
@cerulean pine reset Lucius and Belinda, put Shemira lvl 160
Rosa/Baden
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Belinda/
@meager sedge keep trying. You have Lyca she should cast it 👌
Also dreaf and gorvo smash me lmao
They also have lyca and i dont have m+ wilder boots :/ so i am definitely too slow
@hushed gyro don't forget to reset him
@meager sedge
Nemora
Tasi
Rowan
Athalia
Lucius
Their Arden is faster than my Nemora/Arden... and they also keep getting interrupted.. any ideas or just afk some more?
@violet igloo Thank you very much!
Tower 315 id use some help
@fluid obsidian try replacing Athalia with Tasi. I think if you focus wilder faction scrolls it could be good for your comp
@violet igloo yea i will once i get my first A hero but for now i got really nothing to use it on so i can wait
@violet igloo you think I should do wilders? I was thinking sticking to LB’s since I need sooo much fodder there
@fluid obsidian if you've invested in LB already you can stay there, but they are generally less F2P friendly compared to Wilders. It's up to you.
Worked after like 200 tries lmao
Wair
.. So gtpogean and.... Celestial (?) can go past lvl 100 as Elites? Oh
Hypogean *
@still rune this is more for #classic-questions but all heroes can go past their ascension cap level when they are in the resonating crystal. L tier cant go above 160 though

