@slender ferry ok so that's your next focus 👍
#lineup-help
violet igloo
cosmic current
I'm stuck on floor 80 of the kings tower, graveborn. Can anyone give me some advice. I keep getting my butt kicked
slender ferry
Alright thanks then my setup is good? @violet igloo
idle oriole
@cosmic current maybe replace kelthur with a good nara merc
winter matrix
You might wanna use a good Ferael merc for that.
Also put Shemira in the backline
idle oriole
@cosmic current also focus on getting shem 240 as u hve 200 crystal 🤔
vernal berry
Wait I did it!
violet igloo
@slender ferry yeah it's okay. You can try to swap mehira or Rosa out for Wukong
slender ferry
Okay ty
violet igloo
gratz @vernal berry you just needed a few retries
prime hill
I went ahead and just reset my whole resonating crystal cause I felt like I was hitting walls in my progression. Any tips, lineup, or suggestions on the teams I should cobble together? I have 12 slots open, and willing to reset my currently leveled heroes. Am on floor 140 in King's Tower, chapter 12-4, and The Ancient Ruins in Peaks of Time and having difficulty clearing any of them. Arcane Lab has also gotten weirdly hard, too, been having trouble clearing floor 3s (normal and hard mode).
For a lack of a better way of putting it, I'm not sure if I'm just hitting natural walls or if I can improve.
cosmic current
I had shem in the back, thought I'd try something diff last time. I dont have enough here essence to get shem to level 240 yet. I'll see what other mercs I can get tho. Thanks for he advice
idle oriole
@prime hill
- take belinda off ur wish list if u haven't already as u have enough copies for ascended
- try resetting everyone to 120 and level up shemira to 160 she should work well then.
-maybe try running something like
Tasi
---Shem
Arden
---estrilda
Nemora
(Swap out tasi or Arden accordingly if/when u get lyca for her speed buff)
prime hill
I'm one Belinda off of getting her to +1 star though, haha. Should I still take her off?
winter matrix
Take her off and place someone else
prime hill
I haven't touched the wishlist stuff in a while, is it better to put fodder units in there now?
idle oriole
Stars aren't important at ur stage.. Only become more relevant later game in my opinion
winter matrix
No, you'll get fodder all the time. Better to put A tiers in there
prime hill
Thank you, I'll go ahead and swap her for like Rowan or Rosaline.
I'll try your line up, thanks @idle oriole !
idle oriole
Once u get some more copies of rowan/Fawkes etc u could set up a decent Lb team @prime hill
Np
prime hill
Would something like: Rowan, Rosaline, Lucius, Fawkes, Estrilda be the LB wishlist I want?
idle oriole
Yea looks good
prime hill
Last question, sorry, am I just putting all my best gear on Shemira and what kind of Dura artifact would go well with her tanking?
violet igloo
@prime hill whar artifact do you have ? Dura's blade is best one you can put on her
violet igloo
put the Call on her, unless you have Tasi put call on Tasi then Eye on shemira
prime hill
I do have Tasi, thank you!
rough goblet
Help
vernal berry
@prime hill you should not be using 3 dps mages, level up lucius and tasi,reset safiya and shemira
Have backline: belinda, arden and rosaline
Frontline: tasi and lucius
Also get belinda as high level as possible and leave others behind
unreal cobalt
Can i get general advise on my lineup, what to reset focus etc im kinda lagging now and stuck everywhere
violet igloo
Hello @unreal cobalt seems like you have opened very few wilder. So you should do a LB comp with Shemira :
Rosa/Belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Estrilda/Brutus/Belinda
it's best to have Shemira 160 like you did and other heroes all leveled to the same, so about 132
faint current
Stuck at 12-38 if anyone has any ideas!
idle oriole
@faint current post full hero list as well
faint current
Only reason I’m scared to use Angelo to ascend Belinda is bc I’m afraid the lab will scale up and be harder and my frontline will die
potent juniper
Relatively new player here (been playing for less than a year) stuck on 28-8. Any help appreciated :)
nova torrent
What line be up shoukd I do I am stuck at 8-32 and floor 105.
I need to wait 25 days for the lab store to reset, I was thinking of rushing bel to 121 then putting my cristal to 100 but I am wondering what my optimal team can be
Atm I run
Belinda
Saveas
Fawkes
Rogan
Rosaline
idle oriole
@faint current
-reset ur lucius
-maybe consider feeding ur Angelo to make belinda mythic or leveling up saveas to 160 and see how he does instead of say shemira or bel
faint current
I have a crap ton of exp since I’ve been afk so long lol
idle oriole
@nova torrent
For now maybe try run something like
Belinda
---Shem
Rosa
---Hogan
Fawkes
Keep in mind as u get more heroes in the next few weeks u will change ur roster a lot(as ur still early game)
faint current
I’ll try mythic Belinda...wish me luck
idle oriole
@faint current gl lol
faint current
Mythic Belinda wrecked em 🙂
stone bluff
how win f80 mauler tower ?
torn spire
This lineup was completely fine... Until this stage (18-40)
My team almost instantly gets wiped by Ogi and Niru
God I hate Niru so much already...
pale kettle
14-10
torn spire
Even with Mythic+ Tasi on loan I can't get through
winter matrix
Focus on getting your Shem to lvl 180
idle oriole
@torn spire Wilder comps require a lot of retires..maybe come back later and you'll get it 1st try 🤷♂️ RNG plays big part in this game but maybe swap Brutus in for lucius for the faction advantage, see if that does anything
frozen wave
any advice on what to do now that everyone's 141 in crystal? Been running Lucius, Shemira, Tasi, Saveas, and Belinda with some good results but unsure where to go from here.. on stage 12-19
rose cloud
Can I get a legends’ challenger tournament set up
frozen wave
Shemira also dies pretty quickly, but way better than 2 shots at 140 vs 141
idle oriole
@frozen wave drop shemira until u get her to 161+ maybe try some wilder support instead
rough goblet
Help
frozen wave
@idle oriole roger that. maybe Nemora? who should i put front line with lucius, though... seems like theyll get murkerd fast. Unless maybe Gorvo and keep my backline as-is?
boreal anvil
11-40 need some@tips
scenic frost
can anyone show me their lightbearer floor 120 team?
woven lichen
@boreal anvil try saveas instead of Belinda since higher leveled... and put him on bottom to focus on squishier units... Talene can be in front to die and heal..... could also try Rowan instead of Fawkes/Talene
idle oriole
@frozen wave keep saveas as main dps until shem or belinda r higher
woven lichen
@rough goblet try
Belinda
-ulmus/ogi
Rosa/raine
-estrilda
Tasi/Nemora
scenic frost
any ideas for me?
idle oriole
Maybe a good estrilda merc @scenic frost 🤷♂️
supple spruce
Anyone got any suggestions?
unreal cobalt
Hello @unreal cobalt seems like you have opened very few wilder. So you should do a LB comp with Shemira :
Rosa/Belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Estrilda/Brutus/Belindait's best to have Shemira 160 like you did and other heroes all leveled to the same, so about 132
@violet igloo thanks mate
main grove
fiery zenith
scenic frost
i saw someone beat the same floor as me with way less combat rating and lower ascended heroes but mine in the same positions get destroyed
scenic frost
use saveas > mireal?
dire heath
Hi all. Which heroes level you can beat The Ancient Ruins? I'm 140+ Legendary + for all heroes but cannot finish it. Here are my heroes
scenic frost
why is gorvo your carry
violet igloo
@dire heath don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+.
dire heath
@scenic frost Caused I like the reflection ability haha
@violet igloo So what should I do instead? Let they stay as E+?
violet igloo
Yes, wait until you have enough to get them straight to L+ so that you can optimize your fodder heroes
Your top priority now is to get Shemira to L+ then to Mythic
dire heath
@violet igloo Thank you bro
violet igloo
Keep buying her in Lab 👌 and keep your Graveborn fodder
dire heath
@violet igloo Lab is the stores, right?
violet igloo
While waiting for her, you can ascend Saveas until Shemira is ready
young acorn
Maybe here is best. Who should i level and focus on?
violet igloo
Yes in the shop where you pay with lab tokens
dire heath
@violet igloo Got it thank you
supple spruce
Any suggestions please save lol
violet igloo
@supple spruce you have a good comp, you can focus all levels on Shemira and out other heroes to level 80
supple spruce
@violet igloo So u suggest resetting rowan, belinda, instead of letting them be at 81 for skill upgrade?
violet igloo
You can leave them at 81 but your top priority is to have Shemira overleveled
supple spruce
@violet igloo sounds good, yeah that was the plan. hoping for fodder so she can go legendary
high loom
Who? I'm ch 20
I know I have 4 copies of Belinda so I can get her ascended butnmy Shem is already ascended and i don't wanna swap her for Belinda yet
thin sonnet
Do I have a tank that's better than gorvo. He just gets melted where I am at the moment.
Around chapter 6-25
odd python
@main grove change backline to isa ferael shem (top to bottom)
fringe mural
Dont know what to do :/
rain oriole
@high loom you should still build Bel as you are needing to build 5 Ascended heroes, if not you could go Fawkes since you can always by his copies if it comes to it
@thin sonnet that chapter is full of maulers and brutus, you could try Hogan/skreg, put Fawkes in your crystal and start running him in your teams
thin sonnet
Thank you.. Who do I replace for fawkes?
rain oriole
Try your Wukong and Hogan/skreg up front with a backline of Fawkes Belinda Tasi/Nemora/Arden. So reset Shemira and Gorvo to level Belinda and Hogan, stick Fawkesa and arden in your crystal
thin sonnet
Oh I thought I should be working on shemira... My bad. Lol
Ok making those changed now
rain oriole
@fringe mural try
Belinda
Brutus
Lyca/Fawkes
Lucius
Tasi/Arden
Also try Arden in the no.3 position to try and root Khasos and morvus so you don't get melted, you will need Lyca aswell for that to beat khasos' axe throws
@thin sonnet you can start working on Shemira later, it's just that early on Belinda will perform better with the limited teams that you can use esspecially in a chapter filled with maulers
thin sonnet
I appreciate the help. Just 1 more question. Last spot u said I should go tasi, nemore or arden. Which one is better?
rain oriole
Try them all to see what works better, more between Arden and Tasi, if Arden can gets roots off multiple times then sweet, or if you can get Tasi to atleast ult once then try her instead. You would use Nemora opposite perhaps a Saveas who could probably take out his own team while charmed, or if you need heals
fringe mural
@rain oriole ill try that now thanks :))
thin sonnet
I appreciate all the help. Thank you
fringe mural
@rain oriole tasi completely froze that khasos and my belinda melted him ... i always underestimate tasi
rain oriole
@remote otter if you are willing to use mercs then an M or above Eironn Merc with SI usually makes quick work of a stage, otherwise try
Nemora/Lyca
Tasi
Eironn
Kaz/Ulmus
Arden
Try get the Ira rooted
@fringe mural gz 👍
remote otter
I'm fine with using Merc just found out you can use for every tower not just one 😂 but nobody has m eironn and okay I'll try that thanks
bright sigil
Really need some help on this one
Can get a merc aswell, if any have a good tip for who
and i can put another hero in the crystal
rain oriole
@bright sigil
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
A lineup that had worked for quite a few people, will take retries, make sure Kaz and Arden get rooted at the start
bright sigil
Thanks will try it out!
It frickin worked, thank u, been stuck for so long! @rain oriole
rain oriole
Nice :) I think that exact line up shows up somewhere in ch 20 and it works there aswell
bright sigil
I got the rest of chap 19 with that aswell, so now im in chap 20! u a legend
slim crow
rain oriole
@slim crow try Nemora in gwyns position and get her to charm saveas, may need to restart a few times, put Belinda in Wukongs position and try Lucius/Wukong in front of her
plush patrol
What’s a good lineup for ice shemira from this?
violet igloo
@plush patrol do you have Ezizh ? He really helps to stop Shemira from ulting. Try swapping him for Brutus
bright sigil
Best team to beat 20-8?
late jungle
i've seen some people run grezhul and raine, should i try or nah? idk what else to do, get 60 ish per run
pale kettle
Hi new player here, just curious what I should run for a lineup. Currently running the 5 elites
@pale kettle you should only be leveling your five highest ascended heroes, so reset Hogan, Golus, and Mirael. you're so early in the game, just keep summoning and leveling. retire your greens too
Ooh okay ty ty
Is this fine for my formation for early game
limpid pumice
Any suggestions for a lineup?
pale kettle
@pale kettle i would say Grezhul and Estrilda frontline, Arden, Mirael, and Silvina(?) backline
violet igloo
@pale kettle reset Arden and put Mirael lvl 60 ibstead, and play Hogan. Something like
Estrilda
Hogan
Mirael
Grezhul
Arden
pale kettle
@limpid pumice
Hogan and Grezhul frontline, Saveas, Nemora, and Rosa frontline. make sure Rosa follows Sav
violet igloo
@limpid pumice since your Saveas isn't legendary yet, put Shemira lvl 130 and the rest lvl 100. Then I would do
Nemora
Shemira
Fawkes
Hogan
Belinda/twins
My comp will work better I think 
you can try both
empty pulsar
Best comp for beast? After adding a bit of levels I cant get over 50 anymore. Before I was at 90 with thane Kong Rowan Belinda estrilda
Nvm...thought it had one more day haha
forest carbon
Thoughts on lb 60?
violet igloo
@forest carbon you have a decent comp, it's just that they are mostly E+ heroes. Gonna have to be a bit patient I'm afraid
forest carbon
Thought so.. 160 crystal is going to be hard to pass. Thanks
hardy crow
I need help with this level
patent mason
What Heroes should i use against Wrizz and Soren?
white storm
Any help with this stage here?
viscid adder
@hardy crow wait until you can use a merc or an ascended 240 level hero for this level.
hardy crow
ok
viscid adder
Thats what I did
lament sparrow
Any suggestions to beat this?
main dragon
Could really use some help on how to progress. I don't think I can ascend anyone but Hogan who I don't really use. Been stuck for a good week at the same spot
https://i.imgur.com/hCouQvK.png
https://i.imgur.com/kmb2saY.png
glossy robin
Thoughts on my team versus this level?
idle oriole
@glossy robin
-try to level up belinda 20+ levels above the other heroes
-if that line up isn't working maybe try :
Belinda
---Brutus/Lucius
Rowan
---Lucius/Brutus
Nemora
@main dragon keep summoning until u can get ur shemira to L+ and then level her up to 160..after that she should be able to help u progress a fair bit
harsh copper
What is best Mehira team? Can she be the carry on a lightbringer team?
idle oriole
harsh copper
That’s literally a question about lineup, I’m asking for help with lineup
idle oriole
From my experience she's situational
iron meadow
Should I reset and try to over level Belinda and Shamira?
still oar
Pick one. Belinda or Shem with the support of Rosa Rowan and luc will be really good general lineup @iron meadow
iron meadow
I guess I'll go with Belinda since this will probably be a light bearers team
earnest flume
Any suggestion on how I should progress on 9-36.
I've been using a line up of
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Gwen
To get this far
idle oriole
@earnest flume post the enemies
earnest flume
glacial tartan
I need help with tower of light
nimble cape
Swap your Fawkes and Rosaline around @glacial tartan. Save your lucius ult for when opponents are about to use theirs. Combine fawkes/Belinda ults...
Worked for me
glacial tartan
He dies and I get wiped @nimble cape
nimble cape
Hmm how is your equipment looking? Might be worth upgrading some otherwise look at loaning a friend unit because that's the team to run...
You could also try swapping fawkes for estrilds though I guess
glacial tartan
I passed it, I swapped fawkes for estriolda and hired a mercenary Belinda @nimble cape
One step closer to getting Belinda to mythic
median bridge
Should I change up my team a little bit? Current is Hogan, Lucius, Belinda, Tasi, and Eironn
nimble cape
Glad to hear it @glacial tartan :)
cinder crag
Any lineups for 25-48 ?
still oar
@cinder crag
cinder crag
@still oar Thanks i think i call do it with the second line up
nimble cape
In hero towers I'm currently on level 62 Mauler and 73 Wilder. Just wondering what teams I should be using on each tower moving forward. If I need to adjust units in my crystal that's fine
violet igloo
@nimble cape your teams are decent, it's just a question of getting them higher ascension and levels at this point, have to be patient 👌
nimble cape
Cheers @violet igloo so I don't need to rotate anyone in my crystal then?
violet igloo
Maybe Safiya instead of Vurk @nimble cape or Warek
nimble cape
Alright cheers @violet igloo ...tbh I kinda forgot I swapped. Vurk in for that recent event and hadn't taken him out xD
slender echo
Currently running Saveas, Rowan, Elistra at the back, Brutus and Golas?at the front. Should I make any changes in light of unlocking Shemira?
still oar
Try brutus golus saveas rowan safiya instead if safiya can already unlock her pyramid. It's a pure damage support for saveas. Maybe can sub in tasi when cc is needed @slender echo
vale wasp
@pale kettle you could try something like
tasi
brutus
lyca
shemira
nemora
nemora charm saveas
it might work, but perhaps you have to reset lucius and eironn to pass your cristal to 220
smoky delta
Someone help me with 22-8 please
main trout
Any help will be appreciated, been stuck on this for over a week
I can swap levels around if needed
untold rivet
My usual team can't quite cut it. Any suggestions?
winter matrix
Take out Fawkes and put Shemira
untold rivet
Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately it fated the same, and I didn;t get out of the fight quick enough to try again.
gilded jewel
Dont know what lineup to have, any suggestions?
winter matrix
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Estrilda
calm pulsar
@untold rivet If you're planning on facing wrizz you should favor specific relics and sometimes pick some key heroes on the way (first & second lab floors.)
solid relictierlist https://docs.google.com/document/d/1huPgQf_MwILOBRapL4MvFyF6ZTeqJ3PXypI5b6VrWmw/edit?usp=drivesdk
rough goblet
Help
raven halo
sup, should i replace Shemira insted of izold? my current line up is
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Izold
Rosaline
limpid quail
@rough goblet try
belinda
hendrik
rosa
ulmus
nemora
@raven halo at which level and ascension?
pale kettle
Do I ascend Belinda or Lucius to Mythic? My lineup rn is: lucius Brutus front, saveas top/bottom back line, rosaline middle back and Belinda top/bottom back?
limpid quail
@pale kettle depends on how many copies you have from each of them. generally you go carry > tank > support
pale kettle
@limpid quail saveas has been my carry for like 4 chapters now, and I wanna ascend Belinda but it feels like she needs too much time to ramp up to be useful in battle 😭
So now I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place.
limpid quail
did you buy shemira from lab frequently? she is the most reliable carry and also reliable to get to A because shes a shop hero
pale kettle
I have her at L+, trying to get fodder unfortunately.
empty pulsar
Any suggestions? Lucius kinda melts...he still needs L+/M gear...
pale kettle
But my Summons are hot trash rn
I guess I’ll ascend Belinda rn. I need more burst damage cause Saveas crits are unreliable atm
raven halo
@limpid quail new player, i only have 1 copy of them, i started like 3 days ago
Lvl 70 ish
limpid quail
@raven halo ok, then i think izold is the better frontliner. make sure to keep buying shemira though, once she is you highest ascended carry she will get you to chapter 23/24
pale kettle
Need lineup for 25-39 please
lofty depot
@pale kettle
pale kettle
Thanks!
graceful wind
lofty depot
@graceful wind Stop making L heroes if yo can't L+ them or you'll most likely get stuck. Vet Saveas as carry, until then use Belinda. Get Shem to 161 ASAP. 1 carry, 2 tanks and 2 supports should work. Belinda, Brutus, Wu-kong, Rowan and Gwyneth/Estrilda for now until you get another support.
wicked pelican
need some help with floor 289 ;;
wet meadow
earnest flume
Need help on how to progress. Should I just focus lucius or level guys more evenly. On 9-40
grave zephyr
.
empty pulsar
@earnest flume #classic-questions
brazen tusk
I don't have many mauler heroes, my Brutus is ascended one star and my Khasos is legendary, who should I ascend to mythical: Numizu or Skreg?
winter matrix
@earnest flume for Now focus on getting your crystal lvl to 120
empty pulsar
@winter matrix
winter matrix
Try
Nemora
Belinda
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi
empty pulsar
@winter matrix tried before, tasi dies before CC is used.
@winter matrix I've even put my M boots on her but no CC is used :/
limpid quail
it relies on rng where tasi teleports and who is charmed. have to run a good couple of tries
empty pulsar
@limpid quail lucius dies immediately after teleport...hes still pretty undergeared with nothing above L gear...and one piece E+
winter matrix
If you feel like you can't do it go afk and lvl your heroes to 141
graceful wind
gilded jewel
Any suggestions to beat? My backline is getting assassinated fast af
winter matrix
Get crystal lvl to 120 and replace Lucius for Brutus
graceful wind
And my line up?
winter matrix
Maybe place Tasi or Lyca instead of Skriath
graceful wind
I dont have them?
winter matrix
Sorry, i mixed the screenshots
Your lineup is good. You're still very early so a lot will change @graceful wind
split peak
I got close to beating this lvl with this setup any suggestions
dusty swan
dont use shemira and belinda together, get another support in there
brave oriole
what stage it is?
dusty swan
rosa, she dodges athalia
lusty tide
@brave oriole 23-34
split peak
Rosa gets on shot
brave oriole
okay, wait
split peak
Any suggestion on a mercenary to get?
dusty swan
try dodging it with lyca?
brave oriole
split peak
One shot again lol
brave oriole
try this, I'm 200 Chrystal
split peak
K
brave oriole
I hope that Rosa follow shem at all
split peak
Na its not happening with ur team
brave oriole
use grace on shem and call on lucius
if anything, just make Rosa 240 instead of bel
split peak
Na i am doing that my bel is the only way i beat it
brave oriole
well, then Brutus
shy crag
Help?
winter matrix
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
subtle talon
What can I change, Belinda can’t carry and shem need lv 161 I think. What combo could work good with this heroes?
tribal sluice
Should I get saveas to legendary? Also should I start swapping out my tanks? Since they can’t hit 120
pale kettle
rain oriole
@tribal sluice you can take him to Legendary when you get ankhira to E+, and yh, reset Lucius and wukong and level any E+ instead so you may pass the 100 cap
pale kettle
So I'm currently stuck. Here is my current formation an I can't progress very far in the story
tribal sluice
Ok thanks
rain oriole
@subtle talon you Belinda would be able to carry at that point if you had her at 155 instead of Saveas and you run LBs, try
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Rosa/Arden
Then you can start using Shemira once you get 140 crystal and you can take her to 161+
subtle talon
@rain oriole Ok I’ll try it, ty 🙂
pale kettle
I forgot to mention that I'm in story mode world 8-36
rain oriole
@pale kettle
Reset Nemora and level an E+ hero instead so you can get past 100 crystal, run
Belinda
Grezhul
Nemora
Wukong
Arden
Sometimes you can use Belinda if she won't get burst down too quick, so that she can gain energy faster
pale kettle
@rain oriole Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it!
subtle talon
@rain oriole 5th try got it^^ ty
rain oriole
@idle oriole you should have your Rowan Rosa Tasi Mehira and Shemira ults all charged up before you start the fight and you can just cc chain and get multiple Shem ults off, you can also use Arden to root
idle oriole
@rain oriole Rowan and Arden dead but I'll just redo the thing I guess.. Thx for the advice 👌
rough goblet
Help
rain oriole
@young remnant you are very early, just use your top 5 for now, reset Thane and level up Rowan instead, he will help with healing and energy, I'd suggest reading the pinned guides in #classic-questions for some really helpful tips for new players
young remnant
thank you
rain oriole
@rough goblet
Definitely need more support in there
Nemora/Rosa
Wukong/Ulmus
Tasi
Brutus
Belinda
rain oriole
@regal bloom
Rosaline
Talene/Brutus
Mirael
Lucius
Nemora/wukong
bright scaffold
Any tips on this one? Can’t seem to handle it..
rain oriole
@bright scaffold have your Lucius at 240 over Brutus, try
Shemira
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Rosa/Fawkes/Arden
Retry until you dodge the vurk poison at the start, try with those 3 heroes at the bottom and see who gives better results
scenic frost
Wrizz team?
rain oriole
@scenic frost
Rosaline
Belinda
Rowan
Lorsan
Twins
You'll punch out high damage but will probably die before the timer ends, could try Lucius in there too
regal bloom
@rain oriole Should i even now go with this tho i have some higher leveld up heros?
scenic frost
Lucius would go where? Swap for Rowan?
winter matrix
Keep Rowan in there
bright scaffold
@rain oriole thanks man! I made it with my Fawkes merc in the bottom
rain oriole
@scenic frost try with that lineup first, if you have to, swap Lucius for Twins but you will probably put out more damage with that first lineup
@bright scaffold gz 👍
winter matrix
Try
Belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Rosaline
split peak
U have no tank
winter matrix
^^. Switch Antandra for Gorvo
split peak
Can i ask why u dont wanna use shem ?
thin sonnet
Because someone on here told me to hold off on using Shem.. Ok will switch those 2
winter matrix
Shem in early game will be a carry, until Saveas takes over
split peak
My shem both acts as damage dealer and tank
thin sonnet
So what do u guys suggest I do?
split peak
I would not use gorvo for this stage change shem for athandra
thin sonnet
winter matrix
Nemora
Wukong
Tasi
Skreg
Shemira
thin sonnet
Because both campaign and kings tower (78) is impossible atm
split peak
Why are u having him put two wilders against a full team of maulers?
winter matrix
Nemora can charm Saveas and he'll hit Golus which is giving him trouble
If Tasi banishes Saveas he can switch her for someone else
But he's on ch6 so all he has to do is afk and get crystal to 81
split peak
Try
Belinda
Wukong
Fawkes
Shem
Silviana
thin sonnet
Will try those Comps thanks..
split peak
Besides Belinda everyone I mentioned will easily reach L+ and belinda u only need one more copy to get her up there too
thin sonnet
Alrite Thanks then 1 more question.. I started 3 accounts just to see what I would get in the early rolls.. I'll tell u the 3 and u can tell me which one is the best. Just as a side project
winter matrix
Rerolling in early game isn't that effective as you will get a short term boost but the heroes in late game might be really good
Might be really good^
split peak
True but u can still get a better start compared to other times
My first account had a terrible start so i guess it doesn’t matter too much in the long run
winter matrix
Exactly
split peak
@winter matrix any suggestions for this?
brave oriole
with the new wish list working, there's no bad start
split peak
Rosa does not help with selviana and athalia any mage type die very quickly besides shem
winter matrix
Not a clue m8
split peak
Its a cancerous lvl 😢
split peak
Shem
winter matrix
Have u tried putting Mehira where Belinda is?
Or does she get instakilled by Silvina
thin sonnet
Okay but just as a matter of interest then... 1st acc: Gwyneth, izold, eiron... Acc 2: eiron, Brutus, safiya, estrilda, Kaz. Acc 3:kelthur, rowan, gorvo
winter matrix
All 3 accounts seem good for early game, but I would stick with the one you have furthest progressed
split peak
Insta killed unless in the 550k rating plus or shem with her dodge
brave oriole
they will never tank athalia, you can use thoran if you want to sneaky tank, or brutus
winter matrix
Thoran would be a good idea as 4 enemies are melee
split peak
Her ult insta kills at least one hero every time
brave oriole
yep, other way is to put arden Backline
winter matrix
Arden would probably get popped by Silvina
brave oriole
oh right
split peak
Bud 240 heroes get insta killed how is a measly arden gonna help?
winter matrix
This looks like a matter of trying random teams and one of them will work
brave oriole
kkk
split peak
I am waiting on a ferael to be given to me gonna try him
thin sonnet
brave oriole
I will show you what, this is 23 60,with arden, and 200 Chrystal https://youtu.be/GMQ1iBrrtDg @split peak
thin sonnet
@split peak so like this?
split peak
Yes
brave oriole
also, this its your stage, https://youtu.be/IUoN3PGp2HE @split peak
winter matrix
But he isn't on 23-60
lofty depot
@thin sonnet You have 3 dmg dealers and one tank/DPS. You want one carry (DPS) 1 or 2 tanks and rest support. Use Saveas if you have him and for support put Tasi in instead of Silvina. Can't see your other heroes so can't give more advice
lofty depot
@thin sonnet
Saveas
Hogan
Tasi
Wu-kong
Nemora/Arden
Overlevel Saveas. Don't use Shem until she is level 161, then she replaces Saveas
split peak
@brave oriole 23-60 doesn’t have a silviana that kills ur dps heroes before they can ult just saying
lofty depot
I'd reset Wu-kong and put him in crystal @thin sonnet
brave oriole
thin sonnet
@lofty depot okay thank you. Appreciate it
split peak
@brave oriole i’ve seen it thats why i need a ferael
brave oriole
you can use even an elite, won't change much
split peak
Yeah it doesn’t work
brave oriole
your Lucius have time to shield?
split peak
Not always
brave oriole
try def dura on him or call, check if any diff, and sword on Rosa
if he works with the def dura, use the call on Rosa, and grace on shem, fawk... eye
split peak
Ok the problem rn is my lucius gets rosa on him rather than shem
brave oriole
lol, that's bad, you have to fix this, put some. lower item on Lucius,
split peak
Yep...
brave oriole
or, you can remove him. from the library
split peak
He aint library...
brave oriole
then, just merc a better shem
split peak
Na man shem is getting rekt i am close to getting her si to lvl20 that might help
brave oriole
or maybe use Belinda instead of shem, if better gear sig
slender echo
thin sonnet
I think my prob is just being under leveled. The golus 1 shots both my frontlines.
gilded jewel
lol wat
brave oriole
@split peak but ive tried for real every single. combo, it's the only one that rlly worked, not from first but worked
slender echo
At chapter 6-20...who should I use as a team?
winter matrix
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Grezhul
Shem
@slender echo
split peak
I am trying bro ill let u know if i get it
slender echo
@cwonk thanks
split peak
Hell yeah belinda did it finally
winter matrix
You passed it?
split peak
Yes
gilded jewel
niceeee
brave oriole
winter matrix
Grats!!
split peak
240 rosa was needed i guess
dark juniper
@tired idol what stage ist this? (Btw you should clear this stage easy)
tired idol
@tired idol what stage ist this? (Btw you should clear this stage easy)
@dark juniper 22-42
brave oriole
😂
dark juniper
@tired idol u can push to chapter 24
tired idol
How? xD , i can't clear that stage
brave oriole
if you scroll up, ive posted a pic with that stage, very easy
tired idol
My team literally explodes
pale kettle
Need help on this stage
tired idol
if you scroll up, ive posted a pic with that stage, very easy
@brave oriole Cleared, ty ❤️
brave oriole
@pale kettle yeah sure, lvl down back to 180 your heroes and push shem to 220 first. and Backline you need rowan nemora and fawk. if fawk coffin ferael good, remove nemora and put Rosa. if fawk coffin shem, keep him and pray for nemora to charm. ferael from the middle slot
@tired idol
tired idol
How far can i go with that team?
brave oriole
well, i will show you my team, on 24 10
mighty veldt
That pic is heresy @brave oriole where are you wings on Rowan get my boi +30 ASAP so he can fly
brave oriole
working on, but the event ended 😭
harsh fulcrum
im having a prob playing against athalia on labyrinth floor 2
she dodges all my attacks and i destroy the rest of the team but I cannot kill her
shy mesa
@harsh fulcrum go to the rickity cart and reset some of those heroes, dump all the xp into Shemira and use the resonating crystal
@harsh fulcrum Personally I would reset Grezhul and dumb all of the levels you have in him into Shemira.
harsh fulcrum
i can get her past epic +
mighty veldt
Even at 120 she’d do better for you than what you’re currently doing
harsh fulcrum
okey thx
shy mesa
That's not important, what's important are the levels. Right now Grezhul is 99 while Shemira is 61 that makes her much weaker
harsh fulcrum
okey i will reset grezhul now
shy mesa
And you have so many heroes leveled up you only need the top 5 leveled up the rest go in resonating crystal
harsh fulcrum
well glad i listened
lethal wharf
What lineup should I use? I recently got lucius and nemora and heard they are pretty good, wondering if I should change my lineup. Im currently at 7-20 and im lvl 45.
shy mesa
@harsh fulcrum did you beat it?
ripe rivet
shy mesa
@lethal wharf Personally, I would use Belinda, Lucius, Gorvo, Nemora, and Estrilda just looking at what you have. You can use Mireal and Hogan to make Belinda Legendary+
mild trail
What to do?
shy mesa
@ripe rivet Do you have a Lorsan?
shy mesa
@ripe rivet Kaz and Lorsan pair very well together, I'd use Tasi and Arden and Lucius would usually be a better tank than Rigby.
@ripe rivet Lucius can heal the team while Rigby kinda does his own thing.
@mild trail How well does your Lucius tank in this stage?
mild trail
@shy mesa dies before ult
shy mesa
@mild trail You have the fodder to make him L at least, but I gesture a guess you don't have enough to make him L+, what if you put him behind Savaes where Nemora is?
mild trail
@shy mesa so what the lineup?
Brutus savaes x x lucius?
shy mesa
Just use Lyca and Arden, but switch Lyca to 5 and Arden to 4 so that Lyca can dodge Khasos axes
shy crag
Any help?
mild trail
@shy mesa meh
Not working
plush patrol
Need some help beating this. Any ideas?
shy mesa
@mild trail idk what kind of gear you have for Lyca, but can you be a little more specific on what happens in battle? Is Savaes dying too soon? Is Lucius still unable to ult? Is Arden dying before root?
shy mesa
@shy crag do you have Lorsan? If so maybe just try Tasi, Lyca Lorsan back row and switch Brutus and Shemira places
@brave oriole he's low enough that Arden should be able to survive
mild trail
Arden roots then die in a moment . Saevas dies before luci ult.at this moment bottom are already dead
shy mesa
Maybe try Rowan over Arden then, it might keep everyone alive longer, could even try him in the front row instead of Savaes.
shy crag
@shy mesa i do now have him
mild trail
Feels like im stuck
worldly lotus
I would like to ascend my lucius with 2 belindas. What do you guys think.
still oar
Bad move @worldly lotus. Check pinned guides in here and #classic-questions If you have the time. It will help you understanding the mechanic of the game
worldly lotus
I did the thing about fodders. But the thing is i am not progressing now. Thanks anyways. Guess ill wait for some fod lightb
robust forum
Any advice on how I can get past these levels in Tower (left) and Campaign (right)? Thanks!
Not shown is an Ezizh and the Twins, both Elite
brave oriole
@robust forum I would replace Belinda with some cc, mehira, fawk, and so on
robust forum
Thanks, I’ll try that
brave oriole
having 2 queens it's not very good, pick one by situation, and make sure that Rosa follow her and not Lucius. priority, rowan sig to 30 first
plush patrol
Any tips for beating this level?
robust forum
Thanks, @brave oriole ! Yeah, I’ve got him up to 23 already, slowly getting there
brave oriole
@plush patrol you don't have many options now, but try to find a place for arden vs the maulers, and use Rosaline to boost shemira. put her on shem back, if Rosa dies by Khasos, move shem upside. I would say shem Brutus, Backline Rosa nemora or if you have an rowan elite, fawk /athalia elite or so
drowsy epoch
okay
im on 15-4
and i have a halfway decent setup, but it's got no faction connections or anything. so which of these should i work on next?
my usual lineup is Estrilda + Brutus in the front, Tasi, Silvina, and Lucius in the back
brave oriole
and you have no dps 😭
estrilda, she's not handsome on early/middle game, there's Lucius Belinda rowan fawk much more useful than her. you need a dps badly. I see you have no Rosa rowan, do you have them on your wishlist?
violet igloo
@drowsy epoch first things first, don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. Otherwise you'll have lots of heroes "stuck" in legendary
For example if you had kept Lucius and mirael E+, you could have used that fodder to put Belinda to Mythic and continue your progress. Regarding your team, it seems you're lacking a DPS. Usually at your level the best carry by far is Shemira. You absolutely need to continue buying her in lab 👍 then get her to Mythic + as fast as possible so that you can build a proper team around her.
drowsy epoch
@brave oriole yes i have them on my wishlist
violet igloo
So right now as to get your a decent team comp, it's not as easy as one would think... I think I would go for Brutus DPS. Put him to level 180, instead of Estrilda. As soon as your get Shemira to L+, feed her Silvina so that she can jump straight to Mythic.
drowsy epoch
yeah, i had plans to just feed her to a good graveborn at some point, thats the main reason i have her ATM, i just didnt know which to go for
violet igloo
Do you have an Arden by any chance? You'd also need to open Lyca and Nemora,
drowsy epoch
i have arden
violet igloo
Shemira is the best graveborn, you absolutely need her if you want a solid team 👍 I strongly recommend you read the guide pinned in this channel, written by V
She's the best GB for your level, she's the best mid-game carry and you can buy her from Lab
While waiting for Shemira so that you can unlock your progress, your team can be
Belinda
Brutus
Lucius
Estrilda
Tasi.
Try that, and put your Belinda lvl 160 and reset Silvina.
drowsy epoch
okay
oh
@violet igloo thank youuuui, that got me unstuck almost immediately
well, except for the tower. that i imagine i'll be stuck on for a while
rigid galleon
I'm assuming I'm just underleveled on top of a meh comp, but everything kills me super fast now and I'm not sure if I should level other heroes instead of the ones I'm using or not. Or if I should stop leveling shem and start leveling the others in my party
violet igloo
@drowsy epoch when you get Shemira to L+, then Mythic and hopefully Mythic + you'll do like 30 stages in 1 go lol. 👌
twin robin
What to invest fodder in? I'm on 11 31
violet igloo
Hi @rigid galleon don't worry let me have a look and we'll finish this level
@rigid galleon okay so right now you're using 2 DPS carries in your team, which isn't optimal at all. The best carry you can use up until lvl160 are Saveas and Mirael. Both are strong, Mirael is actually better so it seems. So what you should do is reset Shemira and Saveas and Brutus and Antandra, and play
Nemora
Brutus
Mirael
Hogan/Estrilda
Fawkes/Rosa
Put all heroes level 60 except Mirael lvl 100. Your next goal is to get Mirael to E+
rigid galleon
👀 thats news to me everywhere every guide kept saying brutus shemira and saveas were OP
violet igloo
And keep buying Shemira in lab and don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+ 👍 except Mirael
rigid galleon
i'll try that out and see how it goes, but I also might wait til reset to roll on wilders faction banner to see if I get any of the strong wilders before doing that, or is it fine to just use this strat first
violet igloo
Brutus is a tank, not a DPS. He's there to soak damage and build time for your carry to cast ult
Even though sometimes he can whip out a decent chunk of damage.
Saveas is also very strong. If you don't like Mirael, you can play him instead of Nemora and replace Mirael with Estrilda
But on paper Mirael is better her ult is just insane
The guide you read is for when you get to lvl 160+. That's when Shemira starts to shine
rigid galleon
ooooo I see, and looking at my temple of ascension it looks like I can get mirael to e+ if I fodder a rare morvus+ and a rare hogan+ is that fine?
also actually should I leave brutus at 60? shouldn't I level him to 61 so he can have his invincibility?
violet igloo
Yes Brutus 61. Ans yes get Mirael E+ :) you'll see with your new team you'll stomp ennemies
rigid galleon
would this strat change if I pulled like a tasi or lyca with my scrolls in an hour?
wishful thinking but i pray
violet igloo
Hello @twin robin so as a first important tip : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. This will optimize your fodder
boreal anvil
extremely stuck 11-40 tips appreciated
violet igloo
Then for the best team you can make, reset Lucius Nemora Rosa and Tasi then put them back to lvl 120, ans get your Saveas to level 155-160. Then you can try :
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Lyca
I think that's what I'd try.
If it doesn't work you can try
Saveas
Brutus
Rosa
Lucius
Estrilda
Hi @boreal anvil 👌 same tip for you aswell : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. Can you post a screenshot of your hero box?
twin robin
aham
boreal anvil
@violet igloo theoretically it’s could take months for that and i’m not the kinda guy w that patience
subtle crow
any suggestions on "regular" lineup? i am currently using
savaes
lucious
rosa
wukong
tasi
mighty veldt
@boreal anvil then either open your wallet or develop some restraint it’s a bad habit to have will stunt your growth for instant gratification
violet igloo
@boreal anvil you can immediately ascend to legendary if you want, but in the end it will eventually delay your progress. If you don't Ascend, you'll progress fast in the long run 👍 you'll ascend the right heroes and you won't be stuck with lots of Legendary heroes. I would ask you to trust me but you are free to play however you wish :)
mighty veldt
The higher you get level wise the less the difference between e+ and legendary matters btw
violet igloo
@boreal anvil this game rewards patience 👌
boreal anvil
@violet igloo @mighty veldt you guys seem pretty good at the game i’ll trust yous
violet igloo
@boreal anvil do you know what 28 means in my name ? 
you can trust 👍
mighty veldt
It’ll definitely benefit you in the long run lol I’m going to have to add my chapter and floor for the flex
boreal anvil
should i focus on getting my crystal heroes max then
violet igloo
Ok let me have a look for a good lineup with your team 
mighty veldt
I’ll wait till chapter 26 first though 
empty pulsar
@boreal anvil run Rowan instead of talene.
violet igloo
@boreal anvil before giving you your team, I recommend you read the guide pinned in this Channel written by V. He'll explain how much Shemira is important. Keep all your Graveborn fodder for her, you can almost make a L+ Vedan, that you'll be able to feed to your Shemira once she's L+. Then your team will become mega powerful
empty pulsar
@boreal anvil once you've read the guide, we should reset your heroes too :)
violet igloo
She'll be instant Mythic ascended. For your team you have a strong line up. Reset Belinda's XP and only use 1 DPS carry in your team. Here it'll be Saveas. Put him lvl 160 and other heroes 120 :
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Fawkes
Belinda/Lyca/Arden(once he's lvl 141)
Rosa doesn't go well with Saveas ult, keep her for when u get Shemira.
Hello @subtle crow sorry for the wait I haven't forgotten you :) let me have a look at your hero box
empty pulsar
@violet igloo I still feel like Belinda >saveas IF Rosa is included. It allowed me to clear far more content than the typical saveas carry.
violet igloo
@empty pulsar yep, he can try that too, but Belinda is more fragile than Saveas so if she dies before ult she's less useful. Depends on the stage too
subtle crow
@violet igloo thanks no worries 😃. I am waiting for one more mauler E to up my savaes to L+. Also I have two E+ vedan so I just need more GB fodder
Currently Rosa will follow lucious
empty pulsar
@subtle crow
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Rosa
Could work for you
violet igloo
@subtle crow if you want to continue the Saveas route which is legit you can try :
Saveas
Brutus
Fawkes
Lucius
Estrilda.
You can also try
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
But inm not sure Rowan'll survive 🤔
@empty pulsar Belinda? Do you mean Estrilda?
empty pulsar
@young remnant
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Thane
Rosa (adjust depending on thane/Belinda rating)
Also you can keep your carry +20-+40 levels over hour tank
subtle crow
@violet igloo thanks! Will try!
fast ginkgo
I need some help on this stage
empty pulsar
@violet igloo I dislike E+ estrilda, she tends to explode easily early. Personal preference
violet igloo
Hi @young remnant seems like you love Lightbearers 😁 your lineup is :
Estrilda/Rosa
Lucius
Mirael
Hogan
Tasi/Rosa
Put Mirael level 70 and other heroes 50
pastel plume
Any ideas?
empty pulsar
@violet igloo I used E Rowan until halfway through 13 and he survived with mostly E+ gear, so should be good for Ps @ Ch 10
violet igloo
@empty pulsar Belinda frontline is useless, not only is she more fragile than Estrilda, but there's no need for 2nd DPS carry you only need 1 overleveled DPS carry 👌
twin robin
Does anyone know how that team works? I tried it and got smashed
empty pulsar
@violet igloo Belinda front with rosa is what really let me skip through 11 and 12. I meant to do rosa > saveas honestly in that comp - apparently I changed my mind in the middle of typing haha
violet igloo
@pastel plume usually these kind of stages can work well with Nemora when she charms ennemy Arden so he roots enemies... Try :
Athalia
Tasi
Lyca
Lucius/Brutus/Warek
Nemora
@empty pulsar yeah there's a mistake in there, Belinda frontline with an overleveled Saveas is a no no 😂
pastel plume
@violet igloo thank you I'll try :)
violet igloo
@twin robin are you talking about Arena? You got defeated by this comp in Arena?
@pastel plume it'll require many retries unfortunately, you got to be a bit lucky
Also in your LB comp who does Rosa follow?
empty pulsar
@violet igloo for me? Belinda.
violet igloo
:) you are free to play an underlined Belinda as tank in the frontline 🤷 no one will stop you lol. She might have time to buff Saveas before she dies
empty pulsar
@violet igloo who runs saveas and Belinda? Also, my Belinda will usually be the last to die...
violet igloo
@pastel plume any luck?
pastel plume
@violet igloo unfortunately not, but I've had some close tries
violet igloo
@pastel plume if it's close, it usually means it's doable. Keep trying 👌 gl gl
rigid galleon
@violet igloo so u told me earlier to run
Nemora
Brutus
Mirael
Hogan/Estrilda
Fawkes/Rosa
but i waited til reset to roll and I got both lyca and tasi, does that change anything?
violet igloo
Post your updated box so I can have a look 👍
rigid galleon
I didn't reset anyone yet just in case but i did e+ mirael cuz i assume i'll still use her
violet igloo
Well if you want to stick with Saveas your new lineup is
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Lyca
rigid galleon
will that be stronger than using mirael?
violet igloo
If Mirael :
Lyca
Brutus
Mirael
Tasi
Lyca
I'd be tempted to stick with Saveas since you have Brutus faction bonus, maybe if you open Lucius Mirael would be much better. Anywho, both comps are good, it's your personal preference
rigid galleon
does the faction bonus even kick in with if its just brutus and saveas?
there'd be 3 wilders anyway
also is one of those Lyca's supposed to be nemora?
empty pulsar
@rigid galleon it appears so, yes.
rigid galleon
well i went with saveas and cleared the mission first try with that set up lol
tyvm
violet igloo
@rigid galleon Saveas is a beast 👌 and yes if you have 3 Wilders and 2 Mailers faction bonus is enhanced
rigid galleon
I did get stuck on the next boss map right after though lol with ankhira as a legendary boss so i'll just take it easy and do labyrinth and gain some levels overnight or something
violet igloo
That seems like a good idea 💪
pale kettle
Sorry I didnt saw this channel
violet igloo
No problem. Ok so the first thing is a general tip : don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. In that way you'll optimize your fodder
pale kettle
Okay I note that on blocknote to remind me
I know that at start I did random up cause I was like oh I can do it
Wich is stupid but I understand it now sadly :/
shell heron
Any suggestions please T60
violet igloo
Okay @pale kettle so reset Brutus and out Mirael to lvl 140 she's your DPS carry. Then you can do :
Fawkes
Brutus
Mirael
Lucius
Rowan/Rosa
@shell heron there's not much you can o, you need higher levels on heroes. Wait a bit and try again in a few days 💪
violet igloo
@pale kettle you can add yourself the French tag and come into the French channel si tu veux 😉 #select-language
pale kettle
French chan if is only trash talk each other lmao
violet igloo
@pale kettle use Fawkes, and then either Rosa or rowan
pale kettle
In game*
Oh yeah true I miss
Well I'm still stuck on my lvl I need to wait I guess to be higher lvl
scenic verge
Silvina or Nara, Silvina is E+ and Nara is E
I was going to get Belinda to L but don’t want to sacrifice Ros
violet igloo
@scenic verge I would play :
Belinda
Hogan
Rosa
Estrilda
Fawkes
And don't sacrifice Rosaline :) never use ascended tier heroes as food
scenic verge
Estrilda is decent? I read in the guide that she is a weak tank and goes down early
violet igloo
She's quite niche but she'll contribute to 5 faction bonus. Ideally you'd want a Lucius instead. But don't worry you're really early game, you'll open a ton more heroes :)
scenic verge
Ok I’m using Bel to carry me for awhile
scenic verge
You don’t need those heroes any more?
violet igloo
@lunar wolf post your hero box first
lunar wolf
violet igloo
@lunar wolf a good tip is to not ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. Exceptions are Mirael or Saveas
Well, youbmade the right choice to ask here. I would not ascend Belinda just yet. It's best if you wait to get your last copy to get another E+ Belinda
lunar wolf
Ok i will wait, but i didn't really understand why
violet igloo
It's to optimize your fodder. Imagine that you're really really unlucky and only open your missing Belinda in 2 months. If she's Legendary, she's stuck in Legendary and can't get to Legendary+. So it means that the 2 x E+ you used for her weren't very useful, they could have been used elsewhere.
outer mulch
Hey any ideas for a new lineup?
scenic verge
@violet igloo Why would you choose Fawkes over Sav? Is he better for mid game?
I know that I eventually want to get Sav to L
violet igloo
@scenic verge no, it's not that. You don't need 1 overleveled carry DPS in your team, you already have Belinda, it's not useful to put Saveas. Fawkes however will bring a good utility kit to your comp making it much better
If your Saveas is E+ or L then replace Belinda with him
scenic verge
It’s a matter of having balance in your team, see I was thinking Sav for long range DPS and Bel For ult
outer mulch
Is saveas better than belinda?
echo bloom
Should I swap to shemira carry now? Cant quite get belinda up since I'm still missing one elite+ fodder to get her l+ fodder to get her to M and 1 belinda copy for A
violet igloo
@scenic verge no, at your point in the game you just need 1 overleveled DPS that will do the work. Don't need 2 DPS in the team, having 1 overleveled is much easier 👌 Fawkes is a utility debugger, he also deals a little damage
@echo bloom post a screenshot of your hero box
echo bloom
violet igloo
@outer mulch before lvl 160 Saveas is a bit better than Belinda i most comps yes
scenic verge
Ok, I got it, thanks for your help 😀
echo bloom
And if I swap to shem, who should I try to pair up as support?
violet igloo
@echo bloom feed your Silvina to Shemira right now and make her Mythic and out her level 170 and others 140
echo bloom
140? not 141?
violet igloo
@echo bloom I would recommend you read the guide pinned in this channel written by V. Right now you can do :
Rosa
Shemira
Arden/Fawkes
Brutus
Lucius
echo bloom
thanks and is her sig worth levelling up? currently have 190 primordial emblems
violet igloo
@echo bloom you can lever her to +10 for sure, her +20 is so so but you can if you want. If you're patient keep gold emblems for other heroes (Rowan Ferael Eironn Safiya, late game)
echo bloom
the one thing it doesnt say in there but wouldnt it be beneficial to put my support to 141 instead of just 140 for the extra level bonuses to skills?
violet igloo
@echo bloom yes, especially Arden. If you have the dust do it
echo bloom
i have plenty of dust lol
violet igloo
dew it
echo bloom
man gifhts i couldnt do a couple hours ago are just melting now lol, thanks a ton
still grotto
Maybe try switching lyca for tasi
pale kettle
Already did
inland kite
still grotto
Need help on Stage 24-35 ( all the characters on the field are leg+)
pale kettle
Need lineup for 25-42 please
harsh copper
Tasi, Estrilda, Lucius, Rowan, Belinda good? Any suggestions on that?
chilly raven
Can’t pass 25-10 for the life of me. Any suggestions?
empty pulsar
@pale kettle you could try a tidus merc or skreg
pale kettle
@empty pulsar thanks
mortal flax
Am I doing something wrong? I was told this carries, just finished ch 15 got my shem to m and 161 but I get destroyed
empty pulsar
@mortal flax have you tried lucius instead of brutus?
mortal flax
No not yet
empty pulsar
@mortal flax also, I would keep shem +20 everyone else, at a minimum.
polar current
hardy crow
i need help with this
polar current
pallid lake
Try swapping lucius and rowan, do you have call on rowan?
polar current
Er i dnt think so
pallid lake
Sorry I meant call on lucius I’m just big dumb sometimes
pallid lake
Put call on lucius, chalice on rowan, blade on belinda, eye on athalia, and grace on fawkes
I’d try lucius/fawkes front athalia rowan belinda back and see how that goes
polar current
They all get killed in like 2 hitd
pale kettle
Need help
pallid lake
Show the breakdown when you lose of who does all the damage
polar current
Alright 1 sec
pale kettle
Any ideas on this level
polar current
pallid lake
Who does fawkes coffin?
polar current
Shemira
pallid lake
Hm, try swapping belinda and athalia
pallid lake
Yeah I figured lol
pale kettle
Any ideas guys
pallid lake
If you merc a +30 rowan I think it would go much better for you @polar current
polar current
Merc? And you mean sigil?
pallid lake
Should be able to get lucius shield up quicker and maybe put some damage on them
polar current
Oh mercenary
pallid lake
Yeah mercenary and yeah a +30 sig
polar current
Ooft dont think i have anyone with either of those
tulip whale
Pulled twins and wondering how to build around them. Also new players 4-5 days in. Still learning.
pale kettle
A little advice if you are making something legendary make sure when you make is legendary you can instantly make is legendary+
tulip whale
Is legendary+ the full gold
still oar
Yes. After that it's mythic red
tulip whale
Why is it you want instant legendary + other than it’s obviously stronger
pale kettle
Couse if you don’t have the copy’s of it to get it to legendary+ you never know your luck later in the game could be bad and you could never get it legendary+ then it just stays at legendary
tulip whale
So save it and if I have bad luck use it as fodder?
supple spruce
Any suggestions? Save me please
pale kettle
Yes
pale kettle
Not yet but In some levels she is good
So when you unlock the Resonating crystal put her in there if you haven’t already unlocked it
thin sonnet
@lofty depot it only took 478 tries for tasi to charm the correct unit. Finally beat it thanks. Lol. Do I keep my team the same?
still oar
Nick it from bottom. Golus has thick skin @thin sonnet
limpid pumice
Thoughts on team?
granite summit
I have a question about my lineup in that the heroes that I've got are rarer, I have no idea how long it will take to get the fodder required to level brutus over 140 and until I do my resonating crystal lineup is stuck too, what do I do? Keep him there or reset him and replace him with Seirus? Or do something else entirely?
still oar
Reset @granite summit. And the recommendation on leveling is carry>tank>support
granite summit
I'm still pretty new to this, which one is the carry? And support?
still oar
Carry is main dps such as belinda, shemira. The one who deals dmagae
Support is the one who mainly has buff, debuff and cc skills such as nemora, nara tasi @granite summit
lament sparrow
Any help to beat this one? I’ve been stuck on it for a while and have tried almost every formation multiple times, but I still end up killing 1-2 enemies.
proper crest
granite summit
@still oar thank you for the help :)
@still oar I have one last question, who should I reset and who should I replace it with?
woven lichen
@lament sparrow try Nemora instead of Arden to charm and heal.... at your level, easier to use saveas or Mirael instead of shemira
@proper crest not sure what is in 9-24 but I would try Belinda Lucius Rowan estrilda and Hogan... maybe mehira instead of estrilda
lofty depot
@thin sonnet Yes I would keep the same team
still oar
Like you already said brutus and make seirus 141 since you're close to that and after that you can focus on Belinda first and make her 180 asap. You don't necessarily need to reset luc since it's only 9 levels. Keep your diamonds
Most importantly start building fodders you will need them alot and focus on your 1st row since you already in.
Comeback again when you can ascend shemira to mythic Ive got a feeling you'll need to consider a new carry if you can pull enough copies of belinda.
Resonate Rowan and Rosa they are good combo with Belinda and luc and take vedan, orthos out from resonating crystal as for line up maybe
Rosa Or. Belinda
Luc >>>Luc
Rowan. rowan
Seirus (nara) >>>seirus
Belinda. Nara
Assuming Rosa is following lucius.
Those comps are not mandatory or the best just something I thought of for general @granite summit 😁
final meteor
@torpid turret try
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
torpid turret
@final meteor worked thx
heady wave
Any ideas?
granite summit
@still oar thank you so much, I'll give it a go!
winter matrix
@heady wave
Or
Ezizh Tasi
Brutus Lyca
Mehira Mehira
Shemira. Shemira
Tasi Nemora
You can try renting a good Mehira for this
jovial gate
Help? Nemora has a shield a lot and even if it’s just her left I can’t kill
heady wave
@winter matrix theres unfortunately only 1 mehira in my friendslist and she is already lent to someone :/
golden crown
Tips to this stage?
ocean granite
hey was wondering how to build ard my current heroes, new player here (abt 7+ days in), my friends which started later than me have passed me alrdy, any tips or am i doing smth wrong?
golden crown
Tips for this
violet igloo
@golden crown put your Belinda lvl 140 and other heroes lvl 100.
Belinda
Brutus
Rosa
Lucius
Nemora/Tasi
Make sure to keep buying Shemira in lab shop, only buy her
@tall stump try switching Skregg and Khasos position see if that changes anything. If not then not much you can do, you need to get more ascension on Maulers and/or more levels.
@ocean granite first of all, you only need to level 5 heroes. You can reset Nemora Ulmus and Ferael
@ocean granite as for your team, put Belinda level 140 and others lvl 100
Nemora
Belinda
Lucius
Brutus
Angelo/Thane
If you can get Saveas to legendary, you can use him instead of Belinda
As a general tip don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. @jovial gate. Try :
Saveas
Lucius
Nemora
Ulmus/Hogan
Tasi
tall stump
I beat it with a merc namisu :)
violet igloo
gratz 👌
brisk prairie
Please help, i need a good strategy to beat the labyrint on hard and wizz,help please!
red furnace
Any advice? In log i see people clear it with only lvl 240 brutus, but this healing and nara wrecks my party
pale kettle
he's referring to enemy nara
and why would you say that about nara? she's pretty useful even in early game. I use her exclusively on my main lineup
red furnace
@scenic verge im not using Nara, its maulers tower 114, im against nara which wrecks me, most strange part is that in log there is a kill with onky lvl 240 brutus and 1 kill with 220 chars + 235 khasos and i stugle to kill even one char
scenic verge
@pale kettle because she is not useful... I haven't used her at all early game because she dies quickly
red furnace
Nara is good for me at chapter 22 and graveborn tower, she is nice CC to stop ferael fear so my shem can launch its ult
scenic verge
I'm on 7-4 and Nara is not helping me at all
oh, wait that is different because you are on chapter 22... and I'm on chapter 7
pale kettle
maybe you're not using her correctly? she's more of an anti-CC than a tank. basically a tasi/arden/rosaline/silvina killer
scenic verge
it says in the guide to use her as a tank/front position
red furnace
@JimT#4873 before you reach chapter 11 you use saveas or vedan as a carry, after chapter 11 its shemira and when you reach 22+ you should have another carry. I use Nara mainly for CC
scenic verge
but she drops quickly as a tank, even hogan stays alive longer than nara imo
pale kettle
progression doesn't make a difference. I've been using her on my alt since I've started and she never disappoints. helps finish the fight
nara is not a tank, don't put her on the front lol
red furnace
She is not a tank, more like a warrior, not intended to tank damage
scenic verge
the guide is not giving me the right info then because when I read it, says sav is good mid game, nara is good early on and hogan
so my lineup right now is belinda, roselyn, saveas, hogan, arden (which btw arden is one of the first supports to go down) so I don't know why he was recommended early game
so there is a lot of different opinions on heroes
pale kettle
just to clear your mind, she's an amazing counter against cc/moving enemies. think of her as like a graveborn fawkes. try using her across the heroes I mentioned earlier
she can also end brutus even with his immunity shield
scenic verge
what is cc again? I forgot that acronym
red furnace
Saveas shining most after lvl 121, shemira after 161, arden after 141
scenic verge
counter crit?
red furnace
Cc is crowd control, arden roots 3 targets which is onsidered very nice cc
scenic verge
arden is the first one to go down and I've got him at level 81, all of my heroes at 81 except mirael who is 99 I think
maybe they are just weak right now
my heroes and the formation that I'm trying to use...
I'm pretty sure my back 3 would be arden/mir/ros/fawkes or a combination and my front 2 not really sure other than hogan
pale kettle
you could start building up E+ fodder? you have the copies to get belinda straight to Legendary+
scenic verge
someone told me on here that taking Bel to L+ is stupid if I won't get the pull that I want and to wait
and that Mirael is better early game and Bel later game
red furnace
Before reaching lvl 240 with all chars keep you carry hero 40 lvl above rest, arden is a support hero which is used in a backline prefferably with lyca so he gets haste buff and manages to cc before being killed. Overall you need 2 sets of support heroes - wilders: lyca, nemora, tasi/arden and lightbearers : rowan, rosaline, hawks
scenic verge
40 levels above the rest? I was going off the 20 levels that someone mentioned
for some time, I had Mir 20+ levels and as my carry for the team
zinc stump
@scenic verge reset Khasos and put those levels into saveas putting Khasos in resonance slot. Only manually level 5 heros.
scenic verge
@red furnace I don't have lyca, nem/tasi but I do have ardan and fawkes...
pale kettle
imo that advice is a bit overkill. breaking level caps would be much more difficult to achieve if you decide to hold off an ascended-tier hero until you can get them straight to ascended @scenic verge
scenic verge
I'm stuck because Nara is on the res at level 1 and I can't remove her... because she is part of the pentagram and so I'm manually leveling heroes to get around that
pale kettle
if you have belinda on your wishlist then getting copies of her won't be difficult
zinc stump
@scenic verge L+ Saveas or Mereal can get you to ch13 just fine. Dump as many levels into your carry as possible then worry about leveling the rest
scenic verge
how do I get around the pentagram restriction since nara is in one of the slots? I can't take her off
zinc stump
@scenic verge that doesnt make sense... the 5 heros are your 5 highest level heros...
scenic verge
oh so 2 heroes are on cooldown... 17:45:30
I don't understand why nara is one of the 5 though that is why I manual level heroes
the 5 on the pentagram are ros, arden, nara, mir, and sav
zinc stump
@scenic verge screen that with your heros and submit the 2 ss in #bug-reports
red furnace
If you have lvl 1 nara it means that you have only 4 heroes leveled, pentagram just grabs next available hero, so dont think abou it, lvl 1 more hero and he will automaticaly replace nara
zinc stump
@red furnace his ss shows 6 heros leveled
red furnace
I see only 5, hogan and arden have bluecolored lvl number which means they are in crystal
I see rosaline, khasos, saveas, arden and mirael lvled
zinc stump
@red furnace ah I see my mistake. He has 2 arden 80 and 81 and I mistook the locked one for the one in the field.
scenic verge
ok, so khasos is on the res, and my lineup is fawkes, hogan, mirael, arden, ros
wait, somehow sav got off that list
red furnace
Maulers 114, brutus 240, other chars 220, being constantly killed, nara and tree's heal are most annoying parts, maybe some relics might bring changes?
scenic verge
so who is really better as far as bel and mir because in my experience playing both heroes, they each carry me through a lot of the campaign or is this a preference?
novel adder
@scenic verge both are good in their own right.. one will do better than the other is specific situations.. you can run both even.. generally however mirael tends to carry harder earlier for a bit given equal investment.. but its not really that big a difference.. both do their job.. the additional plus side of mirael is that she is a legendary tier hero - easy to build and no commitment.. gives you flexibility when transitioning to midgame. if you build belinda halfway but decide that you want to go a different route, you would be slower when changing paths.. but mirael can just be foddered when her usefulness becomes lacking (when you need to push past level 160 due to her cap)
red furnace
Mirael s nice untill lvl 160, belinda shines after chapter 22 because before 22 shemira is the best carry
scenic verge
@novel adder thanks for that explanation really helped to kind of see the pros/cons of both heroes
but in my case... I know I have bel who can go L or L+ soon so I have to think about that
novel adder
@scenic verge at your level.. there really is no point to tinkering so much.. just put all your resources and level mirael to 100.. push further and get more pulls under your belt.. you shouldn't be looking at L+ heroes yet.. not until you are nearing lvl 120 units.. ascensions are fodder intensive.. even more so as you go higher.. so you want to make the best decision.. in order to do that you want to see all options available to you.. so you delay that decision as much as possible... level hard push content... when you need to break cap, take stock of all your latest pulls and plan
early game a couple of 10 pulls can change the outlook drastically
lusty tide
@red furnace let Brutus fights ulmus and put firefox behind him so if she dies Brutus can still buy some time. Numisu back mid. Warek vs estrilda and antandra is behind him. If failed put khasos in for extra life leech
scenic verge
I think you really kind of pulled the curtain behind that one... I've spent the last week or so just tinkering with my heroes because I can't get that perfect lineup
Thanks so much @novel adder
Your advice actually coincides with @zinc stump
I guess I haven't understood why everyone is on the Bel train and telling me to use her as soon as possible so I can get her to L and then A
red furnace
Well best option will be to focus on legendary tier heroes before reaching chapter 11, and after look what you can ascend, focus on 1 char per faction untill it is ascended
Just you should understand hst everyone gets belinda e+, so most players use it, but not everyone gets enough coppies to ascend her before reaching chapter 11
novel adder
@scenic verge have you read the pinned tips and guide in #classic-questions do have a look if you haven't.
There is a strategy element to the game.. but also a resource management aspect.. resource management is especially important to master early game unless you just pull out the credit card. if not spending considerably, strategy is constrained to what is realistic within your means at the time.. and you slowly build up to your ideal.. ive been playing for effectively a year as a f2p and still working to get the stuff i want.. 🙂
scenic verge
I'm reading that guide and looking through it at the moment but I did realize that all my heroes are capped at 100 until I get more copies of them and the only way that I've found to get copies of heroes is through soulstones or diamonds but yes, it takes time 🙂
novel adder
@red furnace if you have crystal slot.. khasos will be nice.
but otherwise try something like
antandra
Brutus
numisu
safiya
warek
safiya is just to bait the silvina and warek will throw her forwards and able to hit both with ult.. or just abandon safiya and go for khasos.
red furnace
Ty, i will try
novel adder
@scenic verge you can easily make E+ heroes though... so you're not really capped. just build the complementary copy of mirael/saveas etc from your R+ collections for eg.. that extends your cap to 120.
@graceful wind whats the question? looks fine as a general base to work with..
plush patrol
Any lineup tips for Kane
limpid quail
@plush patrol you have lorsan or rowan? instead of brutus
plush patrol
Yeah I have lorsan
limpid quail
@plush patrol use him and see how it goes as he boosts ult damage
ocean granite
@violet igloo ok thx a bunch
hardy crow
Need help with this lvl
violet igloo
@hardy crow try brutus instead of Raine
winter matrix
Lyca instead of Raine, and Arden instead of Rigby
tall forge
Stuck on 21-10, any Tips?
winter matrix
Replace Arden for Nemora and Athalia for Tasi
hasty igloo
Help Pls 😦
@hasty igloo ?
rough goblet
Why can’t I send pics
frozen wave
would it be ok dumping gorvo copies to get Arden or Nemora to legendary/L+ since I've been using Lucius to tank for a while now? or just play the waiting game for more fodder heroes to feed to Arden and/or Nemora sooner than later?
rough goblet
Help me plz I’ve been stuck on for 2 days now
winter matrix
No, keep your Gorvo. He can be really good for interupting certain CC like root, charm, coffin...
frozen wave
Running: Lucius, Saveas, Tasi, Nemora and Belinda, sometime i swap Sav backliune for Nemora and add Shemira (just for a little more Saveas sustain in the beginning
winter matrix
@rough goblet
Belinda
Brutus
Tasi
Wukong
Nemora
frozen wave
ok cool, roger that. with what ive got now, should i not ascend anybody? and who would i ascend first or second, ideally?
was using Safiya and loving her, but swapped for Belinda, and Bel is doing way more dmg after 141, for now at least. still pretty new, open to any reccs on who/what to work on 😄
ran gorvo, sav, tasi, arden/nemora and safiya for most of the game, but Lucius/Bel seem better suited for sustain until i can hit 161 on shemira
winter matrix
I would suggest you don't make L heroes if you don't have another E+ copy to go straight to L+.
You are wasting a lot of fodder which could be used to ascend heroes that actually can be ascended to L+ and above.
For now stick with your Saveas/Belinda.
tired idol
frozen wave
ok roger that - most of it was because i was nub and hit L (and thane L+) before i started asking questions on here :/
tired idol
Can't beat this
winter matrix
And if you have a Rowan use him @frozen wave
frozen wave
thought the power gap would shift a lot, which it did a good amount once everyone in crystal hit 141 yesterday, but L+ is def way more noticeable.
winter matrix
@tired idol tried switching Nemora and Tasi positions so she charms Arden?
frozen wave
@winter matrix Still waiting on him.... he saved my ass in a peaks of time stage to get 3/4 chests after multiple attempts without beating a single team first tries 😄
tired idol
Going to try rn, but i think i already did
frozen wave
would it make sense to feed my thane to Belinda to make her Mythic? Thane seems pretty underwhelming and i built him way too fast
same with isabella lol /shame
winter matrix
No, don't feed A tier heroes especially if they're L+. Thane and Isabella will be very useful in faction towers later
frozen wave
ahh ok gotcha, glad i asked, i didnt even know faction towers existed... :X
was wondering about the global 'wilders/maulers etc etc ranks/ladders'
tired idol
@tired idol tried switching Nemora and Tasi positions so she charms Arden?
@winter matrix Doesn't work
rough goblet
Help
zenith tusk
Chapter 20 was easy until 20-44 and 20-52
Help please!!!!
winter matrix
@rough goblet Faction towers start appearing in the Dark Tower after you beat 14-40.
In each tower you can only use each faction
@zenith tusk
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi
frozen wave
@winter matrix ahh good to know, ill keep some 'meh' heroes around to prepare for faction towers too, even though im still only at campaign stage 12-20
also, when should i revert Saveas to make Shemira 161? as soon as i get another copy of her to make her L+?
zenith tusk
Kaz spanks me in less than 5 sec
winter matrix
Then try replacing Shemira and Lycas positions.
Should work if your Lyca has any dodge
@frozen wave Even if she gets to L+ her cap would be 160.
Only if she's M she can go 161+
rough goblet
Help
frozen wave
@winter matrix ohh derp, ty lol
tired idol
Then try replacing Shemira and Lycas positions.
Should work if your Lyca has any dodge
@winter matrix If i put lyca in front, grace on her, blade shem and eye brutus?
winter matrix
Yes, or eye on Shem
zenith tusk
Saveas blasted shemira top
Wow
tired lynx
Bruh, is this even real
brisk prairie
Give me tips for labirynt plz
limpid quail
@brisk prairie the relics are not that good. not sure if you just had bad luck or you could have picked better ones. when doing hard mode you want to focus on relics that are good against wrizz. also better to have a LB carry against him (can also be a hired one from the carts) for bonus faction damage
twin robin
Any advice on what artifacts to take? i'm roughly in the same situation
brisk prairie
Tnx, i usualy pick life steal, for wizz, only lifesteal :(
winter matrix
Ice/Fire bringer. The ones that boost your attack rating for 40%. Deathly Embrace, Sunstone, Moonstone...
twin robin
is the sunstone+moonstone combination that strong ?
winter matrix
Yes
limpid quail
^ those, vodoo doll, poisonous thing, ragespike are good against wrizz. spider gloves are also good to clear the stages before him
100% energy and life regeneration if you have both
you want damage > defense > others against wrizz
twin robin
cool, thanks!
subtle crow
is a full LB team viable to ascend for F2P? i am currently running
belinda
lucious
rowan
fawkes
rosa
not sure if i can still go full LB going forward.
limpid quail
@subtle crow you want to ascend only LB or run a full LB comp? running a full LB comp is absolutly possible, but only ascending them will be very hard. LB has the largest pool and also 4 fodder heroes instead of 3
subtle crow
Just a full LB comp. I know I can ascend others to fill the crystal etc.
limpid quail
its fine, but progrees will be slower in midgame
the problem i see is that you currently dont have much copies of a LB carry to push you
subtle crow
Indeed. I was initially going for savaes -> shemira + Wilders but I am not getting enough copies of mauler. Then I tried a full LB team today and advanced 15+ levels in complain. Thought maybe it is more viable
hushed lance
25-26, Thane and Saveas is just bombing me. What to do?
empty pulsar
@subtle crow I also find LB to be better than wilders around where you are, assuming you have rowan+rosa.
subtle crow
@empty pulsar interesting. I will have to decide if I should use savaes or Belinda as carry until I have a mythic shemira.
empty pulsar
@subtle crow I still use
Rosa
Belinda (L+ with 3 pieces of M gear)
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
Belinda @160 is tankier than lucius at 140, and gets damage reduction from rosa
subtle crow
The rest is E/E+?
limpid pumice
Lineup help plz
empty pulsar
Belinda/Lucius L+, fawkes/Rowan E+, Rosa E @subtle crow
subtle crow
Interesting. That's pretty reassuring. Maybe I will try it if I got more copies of Belinda to level it to L+
empty pulsar
@subtle crow
subtle crow
This other server of mine is probably more suitable.
limpid quail
you also have to consider that your belinda has M gear compared to your lucius which is a heavy upgrade statwise
pale kettle
Need help on this stage 20-40
limpid quail
@pale kettle try with
rosa
shemira
rowan
lucius
tasi/lyca
rain oriole
Should be able to clear it with this, migh need some RNG, get Athalia and enemy Arden rooted at the start @scenic frost
bright root
um any suggestions for a line up, also can use merc too if i need a certain one i can probably get a decent one
tired idol
halp pls
scenic frost
@rain oriole I don’t really understand the Rowan positioning
rain oriole
@scenic frost it's
Rowan
Lucius
Rosaline
Shemira
Arden
@tired idol get Nemora to charm seirus at the start
final meteor
@tired idol
Nemora
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Lyca
rain oriole
You can reset your Nemora to 220 and have Lucius at 240 instead @bright root
iron kelp
23-26
summer thicket
I've just unlocked the twisted realm - what would be adviceable to run with for Kane? https://i.imgur.com/rKKgrE8.png
I've still got my mercenaries unused for this week so if i'm missing a must have champion I could go for that in my mercenary requests
stable badger
Still new what should my team be?
harsh copper
Advice?
final meteor
@iron kelp
Nemora
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Lyca
knotty cedar
18 - 26 can't seem to get it, any advice on a team to complete the rest of 18 is greatly appreciated
pale kettle
Need help 20-42
calm nova
Help
rain oriole
@knotty cedar for that stage,
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
Make sure enemy Kaz and Arden get rooted at the start
strange mango
rain oriole
@pale kettle reset Rowan and have Lucius at 181+ instead, get that Ferael charmed, try
Nemora
Lucius/Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Tasi/Rosaline
gilded jewel
Any suggestions? Not a big deal if i cant beat but would be clutch if anyone had ideas
winter matrix
Nemora
Saveas
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
Reset until Nemora charms Arden
gilded jewel
No nem on this acc 😦
winter matrix
Then try Tasi
gilded jewel
Also wait thats 2 saveas lol
shy crag
Any idea ?
gilded jewel
Gotcha ty ill try it out
rain oriole
@calm nova reset Shemira and level Hogan instead, try
Nemora
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Arden
Stick an Arden on your crystal and make sure you get Saveas charmed
gilded jewel
@winter matrix swapped the lyca for khasos and just destroyed the level tysm ur my hero
rain oriole
@shy crag what other heroes do you have, from what I can see
Nemora
Lucius
Shemira
Brutus
Lyca/Fawkes
Try Lyca and Fawkes, he will probably coffin Khasos and help Lucius survive if Nemora can get charm on saveas
raven halo
need a little help with my lineup, new player btw, i'll have belinda or shemira legendary really soon. Current line up
Belinda
Lucius
Rowen
Izold
Rosaline
The question is, should i make shemira or belinda legendary first, and should i replace shemira for izold? Thanks in advance!
shy crag
@rain oriole
rain oriole
@raven halo can you post a screenshot of your heroes so we can get a better look
winter matrix
@raven halo ^^ also don't ascend your heroes to L if you can't go to L+ right away
gilded jewel
@raven halo @winter matrix its ok to do it with troops you know youll get more copies of right? Like say if ur building a shem carry
thick dove
You have great heroes tbh :o
winter matrix
Shemira will carry you in these earlier stages at L, but buy her from Lab Store to get her to L+ as soon as possible
@gilded jewel If its a hero that can be bought its okay, as you will get the E+ copy sooner or later
raven halo
yeah it seems i have a good luck with rolls
rain oriole
@shy crag so try that first lineup, and if you need to mess around with that formation, adding Rowan middle or Arden top/bottom, even Wilder backline if you can get Arden to catch Saveas Ulmus Khasos in roots
thick dove
Wait, there's a lab in this game? What's its purpose?
raven halo
so you recommend me to use shemira insted of izold? Or just replace her for belinda @winter matrix
winter matrix
Shemira > Izold for you yes
raven halo
ok thanks a lot!
winter matrix
Arcane Labyrinth, opens every 48h. (Actually theres an event rn, where Lab will open every 24h).
You compete against series of enemy camps and collect Relics, Gold, Exp and Lab tokens. When you get to the boss of the floor you collect a Reward Chest. Theres 3 floors so 3 chests.
After you beat 9-24 you can access the Hard mode floor of the labyrinth, with a miniboss Wrizz @thick dove
thick dove
I'm in stage 10, so I can go in hard mode, does it give extra lab tokens? (I need some to buy champions)
stable badger
What’s a good team to get me through the start? Here’s what I got.
winter matrix
Doesn't give extra tokens but theres a 33% chance that if you beat Wrizz you get 3000 lab tokens
slender echo
thick dove
But isn't he really hard to beat?
slender echo
Woohoo, lucky pull!
winter matrix
@stable badger only level your top 5, so reset Estrilda.
Then do
Saveas
Lucius
Vurk
Brutus
Rosaline
stable badger
Thank you!
winter matrix
He is very easy if you have relics like Moon/Sunstone, Fire/Icebringer or some other Attack/Defense relics
winter matrix
Don't make L heroes unless you can L+ them. For Wrizz you could do
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Rigby
Belinda
You might die the first 3-4 times you try him but that happenes to everyone
cyan pike
Some1 help pls
slender echo
cyan pike
winter matrix
@cyan pike
Fawkes
Lucius
Athalia
Shemira
Rosaline/Belinda
thick dove
@winter matrix oke, will do next time, thx (I mean I'd like to not die, it would be cool... Unless it's not a problem but I don't see why)
cyan pike
@winter matrix I don't have most of em high level
bright root
um finally beat the other one but this is just painful now
calm nova
@rain oriole thanks
thick dove
@bright root you can go higher than lvl 240? 
bright root
sadly not yet
winter matrix
@bright root maybe try
Lyca
Lucius
Shemira
Grezhul
Nemora
slender echo