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What should I use to beat this team
Unless you use Numisu often, replace him with Fawkes and try him on your lineup.
How many days is this account active? Do you still have the week-long event where it rewards you an E+ Belinda on Day 7 of gameplay?
@wise hornet
@pale kettle It's my first account and it's very new. I will get that E+ Belinda tomorrow.
I am using Numisu as a staple slot right now but it's because I lack for healing options (besides Nemora) that have faction bonus.
Really? Is enemy Silvina aiming on her at the start? @undone pebble
Yup
I've tried to swap thรฉ stuff with rowan but that's bot good enought to do something nice
What happens if you try to put Athalia across her? Does she manage to stun her? Put Saveas on top row if necessary
Stuck in chapter 11-21. Recommendations?
@pale kettle my shemira deal not enought damage to solo carry this
Replace Saveas with Belinda. She's a decent carry, and you'll be able to get her straight to L+ with the E+ copy you'll be receiving tomorrow @wise hornet
Assuming you have the fodder to get her to L first
@pale kettle Yes, I will. I can use an extra Hogan. In which case what should my lineup look like you think?
You could go afk for more resources or wait for suggestions from other people here. I don't see any good CC hero on your pool that can counter agi or ranged enemies @undone pebble
You could try something like:
Belinda
Rosaline
Saveas/Wukong
Brutus
Fawkes
@wise hornet
Not worth putting heals in there until I have better options? Just kinda brute force through what I can?
First of all, limit the heroes you level up to 5, and put the rest of the heroes you still wish to use on the resonating crystal.
Try this formation:
Silvina
Hogan
Shemira
Izold
Belinda
@lament sparrow
As of now, yes. Just make sure to overlevel your main carry for maximum damage @wise hornet
Best event lineup ?
Understood. Thank you a lot for the help!
Is this lineup any good? I started a few days ago
Someone ?
Plz
Honestly, at your current state, any lineup is good. As long as you mind the faction bonus @static plank
Have you seen the pinned message on #classic-questions? It has a guide on dealing with the brute @pale kettle
Yes I did
I dont have twins and I also dont have melee characters like Athalia, Estrilda, Baden
So what should I do ? The pinned says shemira and belinda are bad if no twins, that is actually why I asked here
I don't know if Isabella can be good and they didnt mentioned Grezhul in the pinned, so, idk
@pale kettle
So do you have Rowan and lorsan that you can resonate?
It's okay. You can try nara's method just put good gears on Rowan and give him call
Rosa
Rowan
Belinda
Nara
I am not sure who should be on 3 to add damage but don't need to go forward near the brute so nara can draw the brute toward you until your dps is in
Let me think bout it for a sec
Maybe estrilda. Try her in 3
I just maxed Saveas (160) and got my first Mythic (Lucius)! Where should I go from here? Iโm focusing on LBs 100%
15-36. Any lineup help?
@CitadeL#2525i would focus on binda and Rowan
Can anyone help me with 21-41? Fuck Arden in particular
I'm struggling with what to commit to right now, only in chap 7. I just rolled a Brutus and wonder if I should replace my E+ tanks with him
also got an L+ belinda but not sure what to do
@nocturne narwhal your definitely struggling with for a healer and a decent tank, Belinda is good start to late game, monkey boy should help early game, try to grab another shimera, hendrik is a decent front for now but not as good as a luscious would be.
Thank you @iron meadow , I am struggling quite hard due to complete lack of frontline and sustain- should I get nemora from lab store? have to wait another month for next shemira anyway
You could easily run Belinda front line if you had to
@nocturne narwhal this is my level 70 f2p account, gotten lucky so far in pulls, but I would recommend saving scrolls and stuff and passing as much content before spending
Need help ๐ฆ
Do you have good close range @green vigil?
@green vigil Like Baden maybe Kaz or someone else?
Yes. Strong kaz will do so will baden
Okay I'll give Kaz a try
Having trouble beating this stage
Burning brute help please, currently stuck at 65-70 bells.
@lament sparrow level ur heroes down to 61 except belinda. Level belinda to like 80-100 because she is ur carry unit rn
Ok ty
Which mercenary should I get to finally beat 14-37?
Thoughts?
i'm stuck on 16-40 too. I'm afraid there's no easy solution, everywhere I've looked says it's stupidly rng reliant.
@visual quiver
if your shemira can survive a bit against ogi then shem brutus front, nem lyca tasi. nem charms enemy nem. enemy nem charms enemy arden. arden roots his own team
call on tasi. maybe arden instead of tasi
if your nem is too slow then switch arden and nem positions so arden roots enemy arden at least
then look if shem can survive longer against kaz. I also beat that stage with 180 shem.
wilder teams are a lot of rng
Wow...
as I said. lot of rng and retrying with/against wilders ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Thank you @visual quiver
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Btw in your opinion Lyca Leg+ > Tasi or Nem Leg+
lyca asap M imo for her SI. though you don't want to waste fodder and your goal is 5 A first
Oh 5A is the first goal?
How do i finish this one, what merc do i take?
Try with a m+ antandra merc, she deal great damage. I passed this one with m+ brutus and e+ antandra and my antandra still out dps brutus
Get rekt by athalia
Do I say screw fawkes and get a M Lucius?
No. You almost have an L+ Angelo. Also I suggest you use your L Rowan as he is really good
Just pulled another copy of him so only just got him L, was planning on using him in formation
Also stop making L heroes unless you can L+. You're wasting tons of fodder
Which are the best artifacts to use on heroes for Nemora Boss ? i use Shemira,Estrilda,Rosa,Rowan and twins
Shem - blade
Rosa - convict
Rowan - call
Estrilda - whatever
Twins - whatever
I need help on 25-32 
Don't make L heroes.
Belinda
Wukong
Tasi
Hogan
Nemora
Isnt hogan weak?
Hogan is a decent early tank with good cc
Oh okay
I cant have 2x nemora in 1 team
You can't have any 2x Champion in any team. Only computer / AI can do that.
Whoops! That was supposed to be Tasi @outer mulch
Aight thanks
@dark current
Maybe try:
1.Shemira
2.Thoran
3.Rowan
4.Fawkes
5.Ferael
The team you posted is very fragile. No tanks at all.
Well, no tank but cc so that's ok, gonna try your lineup
can someone help me with a team for the winter event?
@winter matrix oh and why shouldnt i make L?
You can get stuck on L for months, wasting your fodder and then you wont have fodder for heroes you can ascend past L
Oh i see
@summer wagon Try
Shemira
Hogan/Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Belinda
My current comp is
Shemira, Estrilda, Lucius, Belinda and Saveas and I can do about 16%.
Do you think Rowan would change that a lot?
Stuck at 8-28 any tips?
Ranged heroes won't do any good for the event, the brute has a skill that greatly reduces any damage coming from outside the shield.
Try putting heroes like Antandra, Eironn & Wukong and see if it makes any difference. Oh yeah, and add Rowan. @summer wagon
Can you show a pic of the enemy team? @mellow orchid
something like this?
Actually, replace Eironn with Brutus so you can get better faction bonus @summer wagon
Thanks, lucky that I got brutus yesterday I guess ^^
Hey guys. I started playing a few days back. Just kinda want to know if im on the right track atm. Should i start using Belinda as carry or?
I'd say transfer the resources you used on Shem to Belinda and rely on her as carry for now, Shem is lackluster at that stage.
Try this formation:
Fawkes
Lucius
Athalia
Brutus
Belinda
Position Brutus across of enemy Brutus. Place Belinda behind him. Place Athalia directly across the hooded hypogean. @mellow orchid
Will try, thanks.
Best PvE lineup please?
imo, yes. On day 7 you should be getting an E+ copy of Belinda from newbie event, which you can use to get her to L+. Better stats for Bel, more reliable carry as a result. @shut forge
Belinda
Lucius
Skriath
Brutus
Estrilda
Don't be afraid to add some variety to your formation depending on the enemies you're facing. Always overlevel your main dps. In your case, Belinda.
Also, some advice: if you can't take a hero to L+, don't ascend it to L. Less wasted fodder that way. @fringe mural
Any suggestions for this one? Feels like I'm pretty solidly walled here for a bit (Boss-tier Vedan)
@pale kettle yeah im saving up to level belinda now and i took shemira to legendary because im close to buying a copy from labyrinth store so its like guranteed L+ and my lucius was getting weak and i wanted to get through some levels so i took him to L because i was bored ahahahah, thanks for the lineup ill be trying it now
@scarlet pebble Try to prioritize leveling saveas over belinda, he will do much better, especially together with Brutus' roar. I'm sure if you reset belinda and level saveas to 140, you'd get it.
@pale kettle i conpletely underestimated Skriath and Estrilda they're solid, thanks for this lineup
I only got Saveas to legendary earlier today to get a team bounty, so I'd been using Belinda instead
He's the best carry hero when overleveled until level 180
Yeah, but at the moment Belinda's gear is a better and she's been demolishing everything with Rosaline supporting her, so I don't know that I've got anything that I can run with Saveas to match that ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Get your Shemira to 161+ as soon as possible.
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Fawkes
Should i make lucius L ? I dont have any other copy of him, but he starts to lack of tankiness...
Don't go L unless you can go L+! He is still tanky, just get everyone to 120
@winter matrix i run rowan and fawkes, do i need them to be 120 actually ? Seems they are doing ther job, so im more focused on bel and sav
Well if you want him to tank he should be 120
@winter matrix you mean Lucius ? He's 120, that's why i want to L him so i could reset Bel and focus on sav and Lucius, but i guess it's not a good idea for late game ๐ค
Ascending to L will be a boost for now but will screw you in late game if you don't get the E+ copy
I'll try to level the others and see then, thanks
@winter matrix thanks that worked, Iโll prioritise getting Shem ascended then
@timid snow Glad to hear it
Wait 1 tasy copy to go mystic+ or mystic+ lyca and fk the tasi
Lyca > Tasi
What should I up 121 first, Rosa or rowan?
Rowan
Ok thx
Which formation should i put to use
The 2nd one @cedar harbor
Pirate if you're talking about foddering one or the other, domt think about it @obsidian kindle
He has 2 L+ fodders @inland kite
I got 2x L+ foods
Wait for the copies, I legit regret foddering estrilda right now and I thought I'd never use him
Oh, I'm a goof, I had that answer too XD
If you need copies for one, ascend the other for now I say
Just want to push tower and tasi never drops. ๐ญ its hard to save that food for so long
Any advice on mine? The nemora heals.... and yes I know pirate, that's the issue with my first account is I DIDNT wait
lyca sig at +20 works well with phys carries, if your lineup can work around that. tasi still usable at lower ascensions in tower
Lyca is a really good DPS and a dodge tank. I use her frontline in ch21
So I have like 5 legendaries that cant go up yet
Eh I guess I'll just put the replay button on and keep going
Any Idea?
Stop making L heroes. And get everyone to 140.
Shemira
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Arden/Nemora/Tasi
I'm farming for
And I don't have any tasi/nemora, Lucius is waiting for Legendary but no one drop until a long moment
Canโt beat this stage. Even with nara, which interrupts eironn at the start
@cedar harbor reset your heroes to have only 5 leveled ones. Shemira shines only after 161. Silvini or Eiron could be your higher level , 2 protectors and a back with the monkey, Tasi and anybody else
So what you're saying is (sorry my english is kind of bad) only keep silvini or eiron, two protectors and the monkey as my highest levels only? @green saddle
@pale kettle
This is what I used.
- Brutus
2.Shemira - Tasi or Raine
- Lyca
- Rowan
@cedar harbor
He/she meant to focus on "5" champions and level them up. You do not need to level up more than 5 champions because it will be wasting your resources.
Until your Shemira can get to level 161, you should focus on below mentioned champions in that order:
- Silivina
- Eiron
- Tasi
- Wukong
- Saveas.
How did your lyca survive in that spot? Mine dies instantly
Okay. I beat the stage with athalia merc.
any ideas with my wilders tower?
@sacred badge sorry for ping and oki i did the formation now i only need to reset the other heroes but before i do that here's my heroes incase you think someone is better than someone else.
@cedar harbor They look good. But instead of Ulmus (the Tree champion) you can use Saveas until level 160. He's very good from start to level 160.
And congratulations, seems you just started playing but you got very good champions ๐ ..
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@cedar harbor reset Rowan, you only need 5 leveled heroes
You actually have 4 heroes that are leveled that need to be reset
oh i was told he was good. Ok
Iโm stuck on this level any suggestions?
Any way to pass or impossible
I would say get your guys up in level a little @proud grove
@proud grove try Arden instead of wu kong for CC and nemora instead of rosaline
@proud grove I see you having a Shemira, try to put her in the crystal or reset wukongs lvl for her. She is definitely a very very good carry! on top of that she is an elite+ so your lvl cap would increase.
Any chance at passing this level yโall think?
@faint current
Maybe try
Rosa
---Shem
Rowan
---Grezhul
Belinda
Yeh Iโll give it a shot. Thanks!
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hey, any suggestions for a good team from theses heroes pls?
@turbid topaz i would say lyca, tasi, shemira, ferael, and eironn
Help
I need help for 25-40
this team is fine? or can do better?
@pale kettle switch Saveas with Nemora/Lyca/Arden, try all of them out and see what works better
@turbid topaz try safiya instead of Shemira and obviously level them all up
@turbid topaz can you post a screenshot of your hero box ?
Overlevel Saveas
Need help making a team for burning brute event
24 60 stuck
I canโt beat this help pls
@lament sparrow reset Belinda, put Mirael level 90 and other heroes level 60. Try
Safia
Hogan
Mirael
Brutus
Belinda
put the best equipment on Mirael. Mireal is better than Belinda < level 100
Ty paddy
@outer mulch in the general scheme of things, no Vurk is not good.
paddy, the second photo is a better team in your opinion?
24 60 anyone?
@vestal cloak replace Kaz with Grezhul for starters, and maybe put Nemora/Tasi in your team. What ascension is your Lyca ?
@pale kettle have you tried
Ferael
Lucius
Nemora
Thoran
Grezhul ?
Your damage will come from Ferael with his ghosts, his SI is +20 so that's really good
One more question is thane worth investing?
Thane can be good in LB tower
Yea thats good
Suggestions?
Hmu with any suggestions or ideas that I should keep in mind going forward. Thank you in advance
Looks fine to me. Just make sure to overlevel your main carry if you wish to progress further.
I see you have Rosaline too! If your main carry deals AOE damage like Bel or Mirael, pair them with Rosaline for maximum destruction. @limpid pumice
I just pulled mehira any gd?
General tip: if you can't take a hero straight to L+, don't ascend them to L. Less wasted fodder that way. Getting your heroes to Legendary might be a nice boost, but it'll hurt your progress in the long run if you don't get any copies of them anymore.
Other than that, it looks fine. Always overlevel your main carry for better progress, which I'm assuming is Belinda in your case. @honest python
By your last tip i presume mehira aint that good since not easy to ascend
Mehira is great! She can be a decent tank at higher levels and she can turn enemies against each other. Lucky pull! @outer mulch
Oh cool xd
So far she is yeah. Ight I'll mash some mad levels in her.
And gotya most the faughter I used do far has been blue units combined to purple. But I realised it aswell I dont think I've lost too much.
I'll try and have atleast 1 copy of each hero at all times.
Ty so much g
Seems fine to me, since you only need copies of him to ascend. Go ahead
Thanks for the tips
Anyone got formation for 24-60?
Stuck on floor 140 in Tower of Light. Nara stalls everything and Seirus stuns front row, so i can't pull off any ults with Belinda or Rosaline
What lineup are people doing for Evil Nemora?
Shemira can solo carry with Rosa or not really?
Stuck for 2 days. Should I wait for a L+ Saveas and more exp or Reset everybody and run Belinda as Carry? It seems that this Chapter has a lot Maulers...
Belinda, Rosaline, Rowan, Shemira, Lucius
My main carry is Belinda as she's much stronger than Shem. Auto mode turned off, her ult is only released as soon as a new set of dreafs are spawned. Same tactic goes with Shem if you rely on her as carry instead @willow moon
I tried a suggested Shem Rowan, Twins Rosa Estrilda, and Estrilda got stomped immediately lol
Yeah, start using Belinda as your carry. Rosaline pairs better with her compared to Saveas @green saddle
With Shem at levels 161+? definitely @undone pebble
I'm currently trying shemira carry but she didn't did enought damage, what is the best comp that I can make and if there is nothing good actually what are the mobs that I need to up.
People use both of them often on their comps on pvp, they can basically wipe out enemy teams in seconds if nothing is interfering them
I'd say replace Shem with Belinda for now. Put Bel on the resonating crystal, transfer Shem's items to her and give it a try. Not sure if Rosaline would still follow her with her ascension level though
Also please stop making legendaries if you don't want to be stuck later on
Ok thx
Best team for event?
Need help making a team for lab, Rosa glues to saveas
Here are my heroes, I dont know what line up for arena and for the event should I make I'm getting rekt in arena
Can I use Wu kong or Belinda as a solo carry?
They can be carry but don't expect them to the only 1 left and proceed to clear stage like shemira.
Before 100 wukong can be carry, after that I can't say that he can @steady ether
Belinda is one of the best dps in-game. She is rather fragile tho so you will need to protect her especially when your level is 240 or up
Ok thanks I'm still very new to the game. Majority of heroes in the 90 to 101 range
Event try
Twins
Thane
Antandra
Hogan
Belinda or nemora
I am not sure on whether you have enough sustainability till you finish so you can try nemora for sustain or belin5 or buff
As for arena you gotta pick your dps and definitely not twins maybe
TwinsHogan
Nemora
Hogan
Belinda(nemora)
Honest at this point any hero you overleveled is good @nova torrent
Any line up possible without Tasi?
Make it so Rosa follows shemira and manual your ultimates and if you can always start the fights with full energy. Typically you only need Shem to ult once
Try
Shem
Luc
Rowan
Estrilda
Tasi
Resonate tasi she has magnificent ult
@sweet crane
I canโt kill em in time. Any help? My Athalia is dead from other boss. Could restart
@stuck siren you can either use nara and athalia on eironn and arden, or merc a thoran and rng a cheese win.(btw its the only eironn in 21)
What is the best comp I can make for the burning brute event?
@autumn carbon try rosa and rowan/ferael instead of ur tanks, for quick double shemira ult, maybe
@glossy pagoda tysm
@bright shuttle From my experience so far, a team of 180s might be the most promising. Try athalia wukong/estrilda rosa rowan twins. Make sure rosa follows athalia.
Hmm ok thanks
@glossy pagoda they have shitty gear but Iโll try
What changes could i do for improve my push Power?
Bring ur carry to 80 first. Saveas at only r+ is probaply not the best option atm. Ulmus or antandra have probaply more staying power right now. Safiya has a nice support skill at 61 tasi only needs 41 rn if placed behind the carry.
Help please
Stuck at 24-38
So... Should i replace tasi for safiya?
Stuck at 10-32. I can make L Shemira and Saveas, L+ Saveas if I sacrifice an ascended tier, or should I stick with Belinda and save fodder?
Foddering ascended tier that early is definetly not worth it. Bringing saveas to 140L should be good enough for now. Just collect the remaining needed fodder for him afterwards.
Also try to build another e+ arden. L+ arden at 141 is really good .
Who should I use for brute? Struggling at 50+.
Estrilda thane/wukong lucius rosa rowan should be worth a try. Experiment who rosa should follow.
Amazing. Thanks! I got 80 after tweaking gear and position to let rosa follow estrilda
Stuck at 9-38 what can do for progress
who should I ascend raine or gwyneth
Neither. Start building l+ fodder
unless you can get them from epic plus to legendary plus, i'd honestly say don't bother, its not that much of a boost from epic to legendary @rustic skiff
Looking for advice on ice shemera line up, tried twins Lucious rowan belinda Rosa and got 2 million
If u want high damage against her getting atleast one ezizh from challengers shop is a good Investment. He can delay the no heal phase of shemira, as long he is alive and ur team chains enough ults together. Ofcourse a mercezizh would work too.
What's the rewards used fir
To level up the virtues at elder tree.
And at ur level u might even be able to reach legends if u use ezizh and twins, if u do, ur guild gets 50diamonds per person.(my alt does it with its own ezizh and ascended merc shemira for example)
@haughty plinth try leveling saveas 20-40 levels above everyone else
@inland kite you may have a hard time until the carry is higher leveled as Rosa will keep following Lucius... so more of a turtle approach... need Belinda to ult more times to kill people
Help
Mmm any ideas?
Mauler floor 80..its the one with 2 x Warek and 3 x Nara.... is there any chance with my maulers? or would a specific merc work?
Wait, nara doesnt grab boss event
I didnโt realize this # existed
This is my current lineup.. Donโt know how important the faction bonuses are as iโm pretty green. Is it worth swapping in any of these characters in place of who I have? Iโm sort of lost as far as lineup.
Should i make my belinda L+ and use her instead of rosa? Also should i buy estrilda or khasos with lab coins?
Buy Shemira with lab coins. When you have enough to get her A move on to Nemora
Im at 11-14, little too late for that
You will most likely be stuck for months if you don't have a Shemira
Ill be stuck for months aswell if i start buying her now, wont i? I havent got a single copy of her yet
What are you buying now?
Eh, ive bought a wukong so far, and have 42k coins right now
Would someone mind popping up & reading my question? Sorry, getting stuck and wanting to figure out who I should be keeping on my team lol.
@winter matrix
To be honest, you're too early to start focusing on a lineup. Any hero would work at your current stage.
Some things I can advise you to do is:
Limit the heroes you level up to 5, and if you have the resonating crystal unlocked, put the heroes you wish to use there.
See the emblem thingy on the top-left and right corners of your first screenshot? That indicates the faction bonus, and tapping on it should give you a quick overview of the benefits you'll get from putting a certain number of heroes from the same faction. Have a look at that.
I'm a bit concerned about your L Lucius. I hope you didn't use any ascended-tier heroes to get him there. General advice is to not ascend heroes to Legendary unless you can take them straight to Legendary+, and to never use ascended-tier heroes as food.
You seem to have your main carry (Saveas) overleveled, which is good. Keep on doing that, and he'll get you through the hardships of early and mid game.
@timber marsh
I didnโt @pale kettle , I just kinda wailed out and got super lucky with pulls. I just seem to be a bit stuck around early chapter 6, mostly due to hero exp. Should I just be dumping my resources into Saveus for now? Thanks for the response by the way!
& when you say โascended tierโ sorry but what do you mean? It looks like now to get him to L+ it requires an Elite+ Lucius.. is that not ascended tier?
Any suggestions? Every single stage in ch24 so far is cancer even though I have a 262 crystal. My ferael is pepega
Yes, preferably until you get to his ascension level limit. Then feel free to level up the rest of your team.
What I meant by ascended-tier heroes are the heroes that have 4 skills. They are definitely harder to get compared to legendary-tier heroes (3-skilled heroes). I was just concerned about your Lucius because you may have used ascended-tier heroes as food to get him to legendary.
Also I just realized that you do only have 5 heroes manually leveled up, and Numisu is the crystal-bound one. Sorry about that. @timber marsh
No problem! And oh, gosh. I definitely might have then, I thought the skills just became unlocked as you leveled them up
So if my Saveas only has 3 skills does that mean he isnโt ascended tier and I should look out for one that is?
just look ingame at heroes -> portraits. every legendary and ascended tier hero is listed. also, questions please in #classic-questions so people can get help with their lineups
Sorry ๐ฆ
It was originally a lineup question just branched off into additional questions. My bad
it's ok. just saw massive wall of texts and esp on phone it takes forever to see the first lineup that needs help
Sorry about that lol @visual quiver
Help pls 
@final star have you tried subbing in luci/rowan combo
Needing a lineup for lab! I've been doing
Lucius
-rosa
Wukong/Rowan
-shemira
Saveas
But aince rosa glued to Lucius I was immortal, now she glues to saveas
Still need help. Nothing works
@visual quiver how does this travel
Tasi
Rowan
Shem
Luci
Rosie
who should rosa follow? shem or luc?
Pls help I need a Lineup for Brute and Ice-Shemira but my strong range heroes can't get inside the shield.
Shem, you need tasi to ult when thane isnt invis. And you need double ult to kill mireal before she wipes field
guess I need to experiment if tasi can ult without call or if rosa needs it more
I'll try your suggestion. thanks
Tasi call for sure
If rowa cant tank initial hit from thane then swap him with luci position
@visual quiver you could also try to just sub in rowan/luci into the lineup you already posted. Roean pots and +20 sig will be big and he can tank due to invun
@small acorn beat it with your first suggestion. fuck I hate lb
thanks
@visual quiver nice
@gilded cradle tough, you dont have work on any melee for brute. Look at borrowing from friend.
Also ice shemira try get your hands on ehziz
@@small acorn thx but what do you mean with melee? Sry English is not my first language
Melee = sword/close
Range = bow/spells/far
How can i fit my brand new eironn there?
@old ridge switch tasi with lyca. take nemora out for eironn and switch eironn with lyca so he is in the middle
Anything I can do to break through 9-32? Or do I just need to AFK and level everything more?
Can u help me figuring a setup to climb? Struggling a lot atm
Should I ascend Tasi or Nemora, also whatโs the best line up for me with shrima !!
Maybe try replacing Mehira with Fawkes and put Rowan in the center? @fathom estuary
You could try this formation:
Shemira
Rosaline
Talene
Izold
Estrilda
@rare magnet
I'd say replace Thoran with a different tank, he's a bit lackluster on lower levels. Same thing with Shemira. You should invest on a different carry at your stage, like Belinda. @golden crown
Numisu or Rosaline
If you need an all-around healer, Numisu. Rosaline will only prioritize on healing the hero they're following
should I put Numisu in if I already have Lucius?or is that overkill
If Lucius can do his job well, no need to add Numisu. You could put a CC or another DPS hero on that slot instead
or even Rosaline, if your main carry is Bel or Shem
Best team comp with my box? I run Brutus/Lucius FL and Saveas/Belinda/Shemira BL but I feel like Iโm missing out not using Lyca?
@manic ivy dont ascend if you can not make it e+ next time. You are easting resources
Lucius saveas lyca arden tasi/nemora eould be perfect for pve
I'm not sure what the best comp for what I have would be, I've mostly been winging it. What would be the best comp to invest in with what I have?
@grizzled egret for pvp or pve?
pve
@grizzled egret you are wasting resources on ira and mauler lvl 61 and lvl 40... reset them
Invest in saveas, lucius and arden... 3 primary heroes for your current position
@rare magnet do not make L heroes if you can not make them L+ right away. Save resources
@golden crown you are at the beining. You do not have big pool of heroes. You will figure it out ebentually. Try different combinations and read heroes stats
@fathom estuary you can beat that stage with proper team and rng
Should I use tasi as well?
What's the best line-up for tackling Ice Shemira please?
@frail perch do you have a rowan ?
I can't see one, so I'd probably say no ? What you can also do is look at the leaderboard and the scores of people in silver / bronze to get ideas. When I look at your comp I'm thinking :
Shemira
Rosa
Belinda
Ezizh
Estrilda
@violet igloo I have an Elite+ lvl 1 Rowan that I could stick on the crystal and boost up to 220. Won't low ascension heroes, Elite+ etc, just get wiped though?
Stuck here tried every combination, seems i need to level or?
best team comp?open to suggestions currently using ulmus-lucious front Eiron-shimera-Isabelle backline
Best team comp for pve only?
Stuck in this stage and what should I work towards now
Get Saveas to lvl 120. Overlevel him all the way.
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Ezizh
Belinda
Any options here or just wait
An ss of all your heroes would help
Get Saveas to 160. And then lvl your Morvus, to raise lvl cap to 140.
Arden
Lucius
Rowan
Saveas
Tasi
Any ideas what do do here? Nara stalls all my backliners and Seirus stuns Rosa and Belinda, so i cant get the ult off. Duras Call on Rosaline.
You could put a Fawkes in place of anyone, but itโs one of those levels where you either need to wait for progress or get a lucky attempt
Thought as much. Fawkes dies too fast to make any difference, so i guess i need to hit 240 on all heroes first and try again
Hi guys! I am stuck at 20-56 and no matter which comp. team I try, I get obliterated. What should I use and what artifacts on which hero? Thanks in advance ^^
Stop making L heroes, you're wasting tons of fodder.
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes/Athalia
This was and is my main account on 123. Didn't knew much about fodder till like 3 months ago and haven't played since way earlier. But thanks, gonna try
What am i suppose to do here 22-44? Shemira is basically in coffin whole round. Tasi banishes Fawkes, then he throws shemira in coffin. My team manages to survive but as soon as shemira is out, after 2 auto attacks she is in coffin again...
24-14 help
Should I replace someone with estrilda
@carmine cloud Since you've got that Belinda have you tried
Brutus/Lucius Frontline
Rosaline/Rowan/Belinda Backline
(In that order)
Hopefully that saveas lowers brutus fast enough so fawkes coffins him instead. Then you should hopefully be able to burst through
Is this the best team I can build
Is there any chance to get Mauler floor 80? It's the one with 2 Warek's and 3 Nara's ๐ฑ
You will need a good Safiya or Khasos to get there
I'll try and merc one then, thanks.
What is the best team I can use with these heroes and what heroes should I be aiming to get in the future?
What is the best team I can use with these heroes? An whta should I be aiming for in the future?
Im still new to the game
Only level your too 5 heroes. Go to the Rickety Cart and reset everyone that isn't in your top 5. Also go to the Retire section and press the Auto Retire button.
For noe in early game Saveas and Mirael will be your carries.
Saveas
Hogan
Mirael
Gorvo
Arden
So I have to reset everyone besides these 5?
Yes. You poured a lot of resources into them. If you level your top 5 you can get a way higher lvl. Also when you beat 4-36 you will unlock the Resonating Crystal, where you can put in heroes and they will be the same level as your lowest in your top 5
Then you allready unlocked it. Its in the Ranhorn part of the menu
@neon sinew Nice idea, but doesnt work. Belinda just gets coffin every time.
Hi, how can i do ? I just leveled up 2 heroes but still hard stuck..
24-60 is there anyway with my lineup
21-53 help
can you advise me plzzz what to do and which hero to aim at
I would aim at your level Shemira, Lucius, Rosa, Saveas, and The Hypogene I forgot his name
@frail perch in that case try
Shemira
Rosa
Rowan
Ezizh
Estrilda
Thoughts on a good comp?
What's the best to use here
Who should my main 5 be?
@limpid pumice your highest ascended heroes
Dont just waste tears unless you really need them though, they go hella quick later on if you're not careful to have a boss team
Looking for more lineups any ideas?
Which should be my main team ? (14-32)
At 6-27 and stonewalled. Willing to reset a few heroes, just not totally sure what my best bet is atm. Thanks in advance.
25-40
@timber aspen im not experienced but retire one hero and focus lvling up 5 heroes only
@outer mulch yeah that is what I am learning haha....just not sure at the super early point I am in, what 5 I should focus on
I dont have many spots in the crystal yet, only 4
any pro strats for 25-40
@timber aspen i got you a lineup
Lucius, Grezhul, Shemira, Tasi, & Rosaline im thinking, but i could be way off lol
3 4 8 in the back
2 and 9 infront
Focus on those 5 and im sure theyll work out fine for now
Iโm getting to kinda late game and Shem canโt carry as much as she did before x( any tips on who I should be building for further content?
@timber aspen try the lineup i suggest i have a similar one and working out well
i've been stuck for a long time, should i ascend anything?
Quick question - would Dura's Call work better on Tasi or Nemora for now with what I've got? currently on Tasi, but Nemora healing faster might help over the sleepy time from Tasi slightly faster. Still newer than not, any input is much appreciated! Running Gorvo, Saveas, Tasi, Nemora/Arden, and Safiya
@late jungle, Saveas is a HUGE carry (as a nub, its super apparent to me, and i was reccommended the same thing so just fwiw) until Shemira can hit 161 etc
im no genius, but id say max out Saveas first. also putting legendaries in crystal and lvling them up to also boost your main team/anyone else in crystal has helped me a ton (also advice i got from here which im pretty content with).
i may have messed up on making too many 'potentially viable characters/situational characters' Legendary too early, but for boosting my main team, I personally dont regret it. idk if its the right move with what youve got, but with all L or L+ in crystal, my main team is benefitting for sure.
i can't make him L cuz i dont have fodder to ascend him :(
King's tower 180??? Dafuq is this? Getting one shotted
22-44 Finally finished. Putting this there for people that might search for this stage, as its a regular.
lol really big power gap there @mortal flax
Feels super broken
tenth time i send this, could Someone pls help me
With what exactly @pale kettle?
Which should be my main team for now (14-32)
What you have already seems fine.
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Seirus
Tasi/Arden
Crystal to 140, then Shemira to 161.
Fawkes
Shemira
Nemora
Lucius
Rosaline
What, I donโt have enough to get Shemira to 161
Afk. You'll get the resources
Who is crystal
Resonating Crystal. Get all your heroes to 140, so you can lvl Shemira to 161+
Oh god thatโs gonna take days
days is better than months ๐
I need team comp ideas for clearing through Chapter 8.
Quick question - would Dura's Call work better on Tasi or Nemora for now with what I've got? currently on Tasi, but Nemora healing faster might help over the sleepy time from Tasi slightly faster. Still newer than not, any input is much appreciated! Running Gorvo, Saveas, Tasi, Nemora/Arden, and Safiya
On Tasi
@wise hornet def Saveas as a carry until 160 at least. no regrets here.
ok cool tyvvvm @winter matrix
Belinda
Lucius
Fawkes
Brutus
Rosaline
@wise hornet
Lol yeah but I don't have the ability to raise him past Elite right now so he can't go past 100. /cry
he seems pretty easy to pull, even as a nub mostly f2p for me - id definitely invest in him first over anything before 160 though, imho
if waiting work friend scrolls can pull a few of him, you should be set sooner than later
Game just kinda gave me L Belinda so I've been rolling with it until I get more of Saveas
i feel that. i did l+ belinda too soon and i dont even use her in my lineup besides popping her in crystal for my main team lvl ups
Don't go to L unless you really need to break lvl cap, or to pass a stage
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And yes, definitely Dura's call on Tasi at all times ๐
question - im generally using Nemora over Arden atm to keep aura - was told to make Arden L before Tasi Nemora or any other wilder i've got... is that true? or if i generally use Nemora over Arden, should i boost her (or Tasi) to L first?
@winter matrix whens the best time to ascend to L?
When you can get the hero to L+
2 maulers, 3 wilders, jw where to go for ascension before i can 161 shemira and swap out Saveas
You can make Arden L as he is a fodder unit and the E+ copy will come quick. Also a L+ arden is usefull until ch 21
@frozen wave get Tasi to L+ first. Then Nemora then Arden, and not just L but L+. And if you're stuck on level cap you can put Arden L but it really is only if you're stuck
I think I used Arde once in chapter 25 lmao
Yea people use E+ ardens in late chapters
Whats the best way to proceed when im stuck? Cant beat kings tower or campaign im not sure what to do
Wait and lvl your heroes
@outer mulch If you've tried different lineups/formations and nothing works then all you can do is wait for hero xp/summons
Ah k
@outer mulch in general you simply have to wait, the game is called AFK after all : ) what chapter are you at?
Im at 8-20
23+36
Stuck there, athalia and silvana keep jumping and slaughtering every one ๐คฃ
Any help would be appreciate ๐
I would usually use Lyca to face Athalia since she can dodge pretty much everything (if you're lucky), Rowan should have Call and at that ascension & +20 I think he should be able to tank Sylv ? ๐ง
@pale kettle well, your ennemy is graveborn and your comp is mainly Lightbearer, so you deal less damage and take more damage. And you don't have Tasi or Lyca ascended yet, so you'll have to work with Lightbearers.
The comp you have already isn't bad, maybe you could try Nemora instead of Brutus and keep trying until she dodged Athalia first hit but that'll be hard, even if you equip Nemora with Dura's grace.
Does Rowan die before Lucius ult?
He do not die but don't get the shield as athalia jump on him
@outer mulch it's perfectly normal to be stuck at some point. Wait a bit, then you'll get more XP and also scrolls to open more heroes and Ascend them
He have his si +25, still get os by Silvina
Aight thanks for the advice @violet igloo
@pale kettle take out Athalia and put Lyca instead. Then put Lyca middle
ngl I just used Shem to snowball through with A Lyca ๐ง for stages with Syl, I mostly have a rowan with call to bait
you just need the haste boost from lyca, then she can die, if she dodges then she buys time but that's about it
Help?
@violet igloo my lyca still get os, I've put brutus middle to tank athalia
you just need the haste boost from lyca, then she can die, if she dodges then she buys time but that's about it
@pale kettle
@pale kettle don't use your lyca, use mercenary Lyca
@red heron tyvvm!! could take Tasi, Nemora, or Arden to L now, but dont wanna make a slip up
Someone an idea? Ty :โฌ
l+ might be a few days but i feel like even 1 more L could help a bit with some progression in the meantime
Same with mercenary
@frozen wave see who you can ge first between Tasi Lyca and Nemora. But keep buying Shemira from lab, don't buy Nemora
Put Lyca middle and you'll see 1 in 10 fights she'll dodge Athalia first hit
and I would also sub Brutus out for like a Tasi or Nem, bonus helps
So I can maybe put a fawkes M in back bot instead of brutus ?
@violet igloo roger that. ill keep going for Shemira in shop. tempted to boost Tasi or Nemora right now to L (Arden im still kinda 'iffy' on), although i was told to get him boosted first, but Nemora seems MUCH more useful for me atm in terms of progression in PvE and healing/charm ๐
@frozen wave just wait until you can get them to L+ ๐
wait until u can get them to L+ @frozen wave
Ok, level get a bit easier with nem botlane, maybe I'll need to up my hero further for this level, even tho I see ppls with lvl240 passing this info
@pale kettle yep you can try. Belind really needs to chain ult but gonna be hard
ok cool, will do!! id rather wait and be a pain asking 1 more time here than screwing up hard ๐
I don't even have faction M for her, 1 copie away from 5star, it's sad ๐ ๐
also, should i hold off on Shemira until L+? or once i can get her to 161, solid swap for Saveas, even with dropping aura?
also would love to use Lucius over Gorvo, esp with Nemora, but the aura break is my main concern with where im at (and still no Brutus to keep aura and be better than a Gorvo tank)
I waited until 181 to replace him, I saved up fodders though, I went straight from L+ to M+ ๐ง Sav is still usable when Shem is 161
@frozen wave if Shemira is 161 she'll be better than Saveas 160
Thanks all, I manage to pass the level but swapping nemora and belinda back ๐๐
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grats @pale kettle onwards to the next wall lol
21-59 shemira dies too fast, only level i've had trouble with so far
Here's what I used
lol yeah this worked first try, ima remember that, i just need fawkes to box brutus for ez gg against him
ok but what do i even do on this cancer
Idk, Im stuck on this too
Tried multiple lineups every lineup i try i seem to get wiped out easily, should i just wait for levels??
Get Saveas to 160, then get everyone else to 140
Should i focus everything into him dust/xp till max?
Yup
And leave everyone at 120
Yes, Saveas to 160 first. He's a really hard hitting hero
Any advices? Tasi seems to be the biggest problem
Did you try Fereal? Which hero gets cced by enemy Tasi ?
@final star do you have Tasi?
any suggestions? this is the only level iโve had trouble with since chapter 14
Suggestions?
Everyone to 120. Reset Wukong and lvl Belinda
Pve team?
Saveas
Hogan
Tasi
Lucius
Arden
Ty
Should be easy when you can make Shem m+ and make her 200 instead of belinda @tiny spoke
You need heroes like Tasi or Arden. Good cc always helps , or you can try Nara and pull away silvina from your mages
iโll keep it in mind, iโm waiting to get another throwaway L+ graveborn, iโll work on getting arden too. thanks for the help
Need help pls
This stage need help pls
Can someone help me choose who to use in PvE? I can reset heroes if needed as I just donโt know much about the heroes yet to make an educated decision
Nemora should be slot 3 she should cc arden or seirus. @placid willow brutus slot2 against brutus , if shem struggles to stay alive in slot 1 put lyca there and put shem backline
Help
Got 90 bells, better use saveas instead of estrilda?
Shemira , Rosa ,lucius , belinda , grez or lorsan is a good team against Wrizz @timber marsh by pve u mean guildbosses or overall?
Overall progression in the story, sorry for not clarifying. I imagine thatโs the most important thing atleast in the early-mid game
@plain arch got it lol ! thank you mate
Iโm on 6-20 atm
@plain arch help with above pic?
I am looking into it mate. ๐
can anybody help me out with my stage?
Did u try Nara instead of Athalia? @next magnet
Ill try it
Stick with saveas as carry dont use shemira and saveas together. Make your carry saveas max xp other four heroes should have low lvl than him @timber marsh
Ok @plain arch thanks, think I should put Arden in her place for more support?
Also have Vedan, Fawkes for more dps Iโm not sure who to swap in
Absolutely. More cc and support always good. @timber marsh
@pale kettle I think the weak link of your team is Belinda, you could use another support. I'd use Arden
Perfect thanks brother! So many people need help and so little people to help out lol! Thank you for your service ๐๐๐ผ
Nope bottom dies to fast to skreg. Nara gets the kill on safiya tho
That would be my call Blade
Np mate. @timber marsh hmm maybe try out brutus too with thoran , let me check if i recorded how i pass there. @next magnet
Pls help me out
@worthy bane do i leave numisu in?
Seems fine to me, giving a faction bonus and is decent with your team
Which stage is that btw? @next magnet
Maybe use Morvus instead though just for levels
25-44
Found it @next magnet
Ok
All hero sigs are at 10 and with t1 maxed gears
Hey together, posted bevor and need some help with eventboss, what do you think?
You can give it a try. Do you know you can remake the match by pressing retry after finish? @subtle talon i dont think it will be better but give it a try.
@plain arch oh didnโt know it^^ ty
Hmm is fawkes supposed to kill skreg before he ults
No mate @subtle talon. I am looking into it mate wait 1 min ๐ @shy crag
anyone know how i can beat this level?
I think first of all you should make shem 220 instead of belrain , those are the stages that Shem is the strongest. Give it a try then remove belrain and run tasi lyca sup duo or arden @shy crag
I dont remember mate , try more it might take dozens of try. @next magnet better than before? Sometimes u need perfect rng
Ahaha damn i have no idea how good is that new LB hero at the front @hardy crow , but whenever i see kaz backline arden i put nemora facing them. Tasi/nemora do u have those? Also no idea how is raine in campaigns. ๐
i only have L nemora so i donโt really know how good it might be. I havenโt been able to get that many wilders (my only main faction without Ascended heroes). So do you think i should use L nemora instead of raine? If not, then I can just wait to level up my heroes.
Thx for 25-44 i got it with blade on lyca and eye on fawkes
Woo grats mate ๐ฅณ @next magnet np
I think you should give it a try on nemora / lyca , maybe shem backline is she getting thrashed by ogi? @hardy crow u just need nems cc try arden too might help
@hardy crow damn i didnt screenshot that stage. but i have later ones. ask me when u will be stucked if i have the winning line up in screenshot
@plain arch Iโll try it out. I also almost have L+ Nemora so iโll try to get more. @shy crag Iโll ask you when i get stuck again.
Best i can run for the burning brute event?
Also needing help with Brute. No Rowan makes me pretty sad. Best I've been able to get is mid 80's with kaz-rosa-nemora-estrilda-lorsan
@merry iris try Brutus Rosa Twins Estrilda Thane/Kaz
Get Rosaline to follow Brutus
As a secondary note, would it make sense to feed my sav to Brutus to make him mythic? Only reason I have to save sav atm is Mauler tower.
He can be your main DD in mauler tower for a while, you can use him up until floor -80
@acoustic axle you can try this with Lorsan/Eironn instead of twins
Or try Eironn Rowan Rosa Estrilda Lorsan
With Rosa following eironn
Ive done eironn, warek, rosa, rowan and ezhizh. Iโll see if thats better. Thanks! @rain oriole
@worthy bane
@high scarab Tasi over Antandra 100%, Brutus might be better than Wukong there too if Wukong doesn't live to ult
Tasi might banish Mirael
There is no way Iโm switching my wu Kong XD
You might have to
His gear can go on Lucius or Brutus
Lucius already has more health than him
Try Brutus. His 8s of invincibility are really good
Retry. A lot of this game is RNG
No I like I died in less than 20 seconds of the battle
Some stages I retry 20 times and randomly beat it, even after being wiped within 30 seconds normally
@high scarab who has artifacts?
Best team for pve ? Thx
@high scarab try moving hero's to different positions as well, sometimes 1 move can make u pass it
I did that like a lot, I was stuck on 12-40 for 2 days so far lol
But for now Iโm screwed lol
@native tapir reset Hogan and level him to 121, then use your xp to get saveas to 140, you always want your carry 20-40 levels higher than the rest of your team when possible, reset Mirael and Lucius and level 2 Elite+ instead so you can get past the lvl 100 cap As for line up you could run
Arden
Saveas
Fawkes
Hogan
Estrilda/Lorsan/Lucius
Help pls
Fawkes
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Athalia
Wth first try and won @winter matrix thx

Whatโd you recommend for wrizz and soren lineups with this?
Wrizz
Saveas
Lucius
Lorsan
Shemira
Belinda
Soren
Saveas
Lucius
Wukong/Baden/Grezhul
Shemira
Belinda
Any idea how to beat this? I thought it will be easier when I have all champs at 200 but in stuck on this even now lol
Help on 19-38 ty
@ripe garnet
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus/Lucius
Lyca
Make sure Kaz and Arden get rooted for Shem to survive, may take some retries
Estrilda
Baden
Lucius
Shemira
Athalia
You could also try Nara where Athalia is to pull the Brute to Shemira
Thanks, I will try it!
Anyone got tips for 25-8?
@rain oriole to will try
Help plz
@rugged ice have you tried Thoran, Shem, Lyca, Nemura, Tasi?
keep getting in the 40s, any help?
I feel like I'm missing something but I just don't see it.
Who should I ascend and what shd mya farting team be
Hello anyone willing to take s look at my heroes and help me a bit out? Pls pm me
Stuck on 9-23
Need Help for Arena team
Okay, first of all, reset Lucius and Rowan and transfer those resources to your highest ascension-leveled heroes.
After you've done that, try this formation:
Belinda
Rosaline
Mirael
Lucius
Estrilda
If you could also even out your first 5 heroes' levels and overlevel Belinda, that would be great.
@proud grove
@proud grove have you tried Saveas, Rosaline,Lucius, Tasi and Ezizh?
@late jungle your team seems okay. Have you tested Rosaline?
Tasi at level 100
@lone maple @teal glade
@green saddle switch her for rowan?
The objective is to do the most damage possible with close attacks...
Just started the game and just rolled a bunch of new guys, what kind of formation should I use?
@still oar cheers I'll try with my thoran or merc otherwise
for now: Hogan and Lucius on the front, and Estrilda, Silvina, Shemira on the back.
Start investing on Saveas. Once he's in a desirable level and ascension, you can rely on him as a carry, and a replacement for Silv and Shem @zenith oxide
to be honest though, at your state, any hero should work. Just mind the faction bonus and go afk for additional resources from time to time
@pale kettle okay thanks, but why do you say replacement for shem? every guide I see has her as a top pick until end game
@late jungle try replacing Lucius with Rosa... Rowan should hopefully be all the healing that you need. Mainly want Rosa to boost a melee attacker
Ok I misunderstood your question at all give me a sec
ok will try @woven lichen ty
Anyone have tips for 11-35 and higher? Been running lucius saves Belinda Rowan fawkes until I got stuck for a couple days.
Shem at lower levels is not as impactful as Saveas, She only shines at 161+, as she heals immediately as her ult is unleashed @zenith oxide
@empty pulsar usually want saveas 20-40 levels above everyone else. Can try Rosa instead of Belinda to boost saveas damage further
@woven lichen worth dropping some levels to boost saveas from people? Or I still have all of my exp chests I can use...
@pale kettle alright man thanks for the advice
@empty pulsar either way.... but in general want carry, tank, and then supports... so your supports could be at 121 for now
@woven lichen right now my lucius has my highest rating, so I should redo my team to make saveas highest CR for rosa, correct?
@empty pulsar thatโs correct
I need hello with planning. Saveas canโt be leveled so I should level only Lucius it everybody?Put Isilda at the Crystal to leve it to 140 and have 3 LB at it? I should be focusing at one guy at each faction to ascend: what are the best options for my Wilders? PS: I couldnโt make a level 141 Belinda work. I think I need more level for it
I am at CH 10-28
reset Saveas and give Belinda the lead. pair her with Rosaline for heals and energy boosts
and yes, reset Brutus and give it to Estrilda instead so you can break the level cap
@green saddle you might be able to move Talene to front and replace Brutus with Rowan too in back
@woven lichen golus just seems to stay alive forever :/
@empty pulsar as long as you can kill everyone else, should be able to wear him down
Belinda and Mirael are decent heroes too with faction bonus against mauler
@woven lichen it didnโt work yet. There is a silvini that kills Rowen pretty fast.where I should put the levels I have? At Lucius or at the 5 guys at the Crystal?, diluting it
@empty pulsar can try swapping saveas and Rosa or attempt to use Belinda for carry instead of saveas
@green saddle usually still want carry overleveled but can boost tanks afterward. You can attempt to lower Rosaโs def so silvina jumps on her and have Rosa run past a tank
@woven lichen I've gotten close, just the random bubble from mirael... I think it'll happen worth RNG
With** rng
@woven lichen thoughts on feeding one of my E+ Numisu to make Saveas L+?
Legendary+? I assume your Saveas is currently at L, you would only need an E+ copy of him to get him to L+ @empty pulsar
Yeah...forgot what I was making hahaha.
Is it even worth using Rosa with saveus, cause he has to wait for his ult doesn't he
@empty pulsar generally donโt want to use ascended heroes as fodder either... I actually use numisu in mauler tower at later stages of the game too
@naive kite Rosa will at least boost his attack by 40%... rosa does pair better with Belinda/mirael/shemira though
If saveas in back row, she will push enemies away from him. Also some healing
@woven lichen maybe I'll try Belinda instead then
@woven lichen Belinda worked @ 141 > saveas at 140.
@empty pulsar nice job ๐
@woven lichen thanks again! Up to 11-40, almost to M gear :)
YO HOW THE FK LMAOOOO
help pls
@violet igloo yes, L+ Tasi
@plain arch Shem gets cc
@upper zinc try
Brutus/estrilda
-rosa
Rowan
-Lucius
Belinda/saveas
ill have 1 more slot in crystal for estrilda in a few hours, thank you
@woven lichen cleared 11. Thanks!
Who should my focus be on?
@limpid pumice i would say
Fawkes
Shem
Belinda
WuKong
Mirael
But focus should be either shem or belinda
RN you're at the part of the game where you can use Miriel or Saveas as your copy if you can L+ one. @limpid pumice
Something like
Rosaline
Hogen
Miriel
Hendrick
Fawkes/Wukong
I needs help with these lads to do campaigne
Mauler 140 how does one pass this?
@fresh niche are there any reasons for that lucius to be leveled up? Also, Shem can help. Saveas will also help to the extent of chapter 11.
@onyx basin I donโt really know too much about that stage but I would say change up the lineup. Switch warek, Khasos, and Brutus around to see which one works
@hardy crow yeah that's the usual thing to do before asking for help
ok. well otherwise i have no idea sorry
No worries
You don't have Tidus, do you? Might help
Mauler 173. Cannot get past this one. What the hey?
@pale kettle are you sure that tasi is working in this? Fawkes is a better hero for that bc he can at least trap the enemy at the beginning to help
@pale kettle shemira will get much better after lvl 161
should i swap out Rowan for Tasi
whatโs your team @oak wadi cuz it depends what your team is
should I switch out Ulmus for Hogan?
Looking for help on this stage, tried a bunch of combos and positions but saveus and brutus wrecks Lucious and thr rest. Tried pulling saveus in as well but belinda only gets an ult in that can't kill him
@cloud fossil do not switch ulmus with hogan. He is an extremely trash hero. Ulmus is meh, but better than hogan.
I've tried a fair amount of things, but the burst is ridiculous from the other side
@naive kite try using shem instead of fawkes. Fawkes is good late game and you are in mid game. If that doesnโt work do a couple tries cuz that team is kinda bendy. Also, when you put shem in, move her to Lucius, which he can be moved to belinda, who can be moved to where fawkes used to be.
Aight I'll try it, Fawkes has been real helpful so far though :P
L+ Shem can do better tho
Ya just mean in general haha
I can combin Belinda leg and elite plus to leg plus but should I do leg and leg to leg plus
If you want we can voice chat in volkin disc, he is a afk yter
I'm really confused
Really
U can make belinda l+
I get someone's else help because my question is difficult
make Lucius L+ maybe
Need help for best possible comp
Use shem, wukong, Brutus, saveas, and antandra for now. once you reach mid game (ch12-ch20), that team probably wonโt work anymore but this can work for now. @dire bay
Alright thanks
no just do L+ belinda
So I don't have to make the second s one leg for leg plus
You can get L+ Belinda by doing L belinda with E+ Belinda
Thanks dude
You can also tap on the heroes to see how they ascend like L+ Belinda and L+ Lightbearer of any kind is Mythic, and M with L+ Lightbearer is M+, and M+ with 2 E+ Belinda is Ascended. To get a star on ascended, just put the hero with an E+ copy.
Thanks dude
@pale kettle I licherally said to do that earlier lmao
Im at 25-10 any formation recommend i could go
I literally just beat 25-10, 5 seconds ago with this @solid flame
I would use tasi instead of mehira for sure, but you'd probably have to run a slightly diff comp due to lack of rowan
Could anyone help me with the line up for this boss.
@elfin warren tasi is usless on single target bosses :).
Also can u post ur full hero list :)
@elfin warren ah and read his abiloties before u decide what team to make for him :)
Ik hes got the shield so my Saveas struggles to deal damage
But I get Lower damage with melee heroes too, ever since Rose started following Rowan I deal less damage
Sure does seem like it unfortunately
@elfin warren do you need lucius to survive? Otherwise id remove him and try grezul or lorsan
Nah I don't, kinda didn't think about him, he's just auto in all my teams, thanks for that! Do I still keep Rowan with Rose?
It should be better with lorsan and grez replacing lucius and tasi. Yeah id still keep rowan and rosa, see how that goes for now
So is it Rowan>Rose>Grez,>Eironn and Lorsan or Saveas?
Im not sure if its possible but id try to get rowans total rating as low as possible for rosa to follow one of the dps instead (eironn preferrably)
That would be quite hard but I'll see if it I can try that
Yeah, i would play around with saveas and lorsan to see who does better. I think lorsan should, since saveas is ranged dps
Does she follow the highest rating? Ty though I'll go try that
She follows the person with the highest rating (which i have circled here)
So if you replace rowans gear with much weaker tier stuff, would that make one of your melee dps stronger?
Theres also alot of rng involved so it may take you some attempts
He's 40k and Eironn is 28k and Lucius is 35k I don't think I could make it work but I did try and I got 47 bells this time compared to 35 which I usually get with Lorsan, Grez
I guess it's just difficult since my Rowan is L and everyone else is E+
Unfortunately yes :( with the right rng, if rosa tosses her teacups (or saveas throwing his spears) when the boss has his shields down at around 35% and 60%, you'll get alot more bells.
Sometimes it will take alot of attempts to time that right.
25-8 is clearly going to be an rngfest but trying to decide which setup would be better to stick with to completion. Which is likelier to get success. Note I actually mean for thoran and lucius to be swapped as lucius shouldn't be next to shemira when she exits coffin.
The first setup I can almost and sometimes kill tasi but I haven't yet even reached shemira ult 2. The second setup twice now I've killed shemira just before or just after she ults but just a little too late for me to recover my team after.
@teal glade I beat that stage with backline: shemira-rowan-ferael
Frontline: either lucius or brutus- lyca or tasi
I just cant remember which of the frontliners for that stage
Hmm I could try a tasi swap for thoran. My Lycas too weak to dodge tank
Ah yeah mine is purely for dodge tanking. I think tasi is should be able to tp away, esp if ferael can pull off a stun in time
@teal glade how is athalia +30 by the way? Is she used often in campaign for you?
I've been using her throughout 24 pre 30 to good success especially whenever arden rears his stupid face. Haven't had s chance to use her in 25 yet because of this stupid wall. I got her 30 while stuck on 25-8 so yet to use it but from testing it felt good. Being ascended would be a MASSIVE boost to being able to use her though but I only get her m+ in a few days so long way to go
Probably used her on almost a quarter of chapter 24 though
Could use help on what to do next. I can't ascend Saveas, but I could for Shremia I think
Nice, I haven't touched mine at all haha... but her +30 is so often recommended
Tbh I think I'd rather have done rowan first but she's just so cool. And I want to make ppl hate me in pvp.
Would you use call on tasi or ferael for this 25-8 or just leave it on rowan
I always leave eye on ferael, crits are important on him
Id believe I left call on rowan but you could try tasi if you find you need that sleep asap
Kk. Currently I've tossed call on rowan grace tasi chalice brutus shem and ferael standard. playing with rowan and tasi swapping the duras
@main dragon I would only suggest that you reset wukong and safiya at this stage to break the level 100 cap. Its much easier to ascend legendary tier heroes in early game for level cap
Who would you use in place of Wu and Safiya?
@main dragon I would use Morvus, seeing as he is E+ and can reach level 120. I don't see another E+ legendary tier hero on your list..but for practical use I'd recommend arden. You'll be using arden till chapter 21 :)
25-8
@tired gale modified it. Grezhul is able to get his first ult most tries and chain it into tanking. If tasi doesn't die and gets 2 sleeps in like my last attempt it's very close. Ferael died just before a second ult which would've solidified it. Think this is the final setup. Cheers.
Nice! You'll get it soon then, just the usual rng stuff
Yea. There's definitely a couple things which need to go right but this feels by far like the lowest rng setup
Any help for me too with my line up
@main dragon should be good, hopefully you can get him before you get the dust ready for levelling :)
@tired gale a sliver of hp left on seirus. Def got it now. You just helped me break what's been a rather annoying week long wall
@open dome Is your lucius surviving well? If not id try brutus..otherwise id play around with nemora's charm to see which target gets you the best result.
Nope he dies first but he keeps the other alive too๐ in his last moment
@teal glade haha im glad! I dont have thorvo to play with yet but seems hes pretty op here
Brutus gets killed faster
@tired gale he def feels a bit tanker than grez in less sustained fights. The longer a fight goes the better grezhul works. Thoran feels better agai nst fast burst like this shem+kaz. Hesalso cursing tasi and knocking off a good quarter to third of her hp and providing more dmg than grez which rushes the stage faster
I see, keep lucius on. Id put nemoras charm on the enemy giving you the biggest problem, you could also try rosaline (following lucius for double shielding)
How to make sure which target memory hits
Anyone?
@open dome putting nemora on the opposite side of your desired target, she has a chance to charm them or the enemy behind them. Its just rng to get the right target so you may have to restart the fight often.
Okay and just the wilder trio or instead of lyca use rosalina
Ahh my strongest is now lucius๐
That is Hogan
Id swap either silvina for rosaline to try and see if that helps you survive longer, she needs to follow lucius
Yeah but without silviana she follows hogan
I mean, is hogan better than lucius at that stage? You werent using him in the screenshot
@woeful haven I used either rosaline or rowan instead of nara at that stage
Pretty sure rest of my setup was the same, the key was to get shemira to ult 2x because the enemies dont survive very long
I don't know everything die on hit..
Rosaline can also dodge athalia if you want to move brutus forward to tank
Will try few combination with Ros
I just want to get to 7-4 to unlock second peaks of time 
is the set bonus necessary
faction bonus would be beneficial for your team. try to achieve 3-2 or even 4-1 on your lineup @cloud fossil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OwTCwYW1D0 looking this video and this game is so funny. i have same setup, even better then this and all my heroes die on one hit ... how is this even possible?
Should I use Belinda? Or any other ideas?
Any ideas?
@last wharf no Range. Heโs First spell is vs Range heroes.
@last wharf and you can just reset After fight, so you can try different combos ๐
Any tips to clear this stage?
Yeah, go ahead and start overleveling her. Pair her with Rosaline for more destructive battles. Don't sacrifice Saveas tho, he'll still be useful for other gamemodes @subtle talon
Hey, can someone help me?
Borrow A Brutus @tiny zinc
@pale kettle ty, worked:)
Hey guys, any help with 24-60? Is there a way to do it?
Is this floor impossible with my current line-up?
Can u help me figuring out a comp that allows me to climb?
Any suggestions?
Which 3 Setups should i use for the Legend Arena
Cant for the life of me kill seruius guy, his aoe destroys me, thats how the others died. Also doesnt hell wrizz is next lol
help ;-;
Been hard stuck on this level for over 2 weeks now any tips?
help ๐
What could work against this guy?
You could rush your shemira ulti with a rosaline instead of Tasi !? That way you also get a 4-1 bonus faction
Fawkes would coffin shemira, so i'd switch your Lucius/Shemira positions
gonna be honest nothing is going to matter when he has 30 rowan and 20 twins unless you get your own or possibly rng nemora charms
Halppp
@odd python good point, i didn't even checked their sigs ... yikes
@restive cloud okay thx!
@pale kettle hmm try shem rosa baden grezhul and lucius
What should i use for ice shemira ( i have no ezizh but i got the twins)
Got 40k dust... do I pump shemira to 240 or hold out til I get Belinda to ascended to get her 220? Or do I 220 rowan/nemora? Not super fussed if I get a lot of progression if I 240 shemira or hold out
1 copy of Belinda away for ascended, fodder only for fawkes...
3 lineups of 5 for legends Challenger tournament?
What to do here I just get tossed around
@haughty plinth you need to buy a Shemira from the lab so that you can put her level 120.
Can you post a screenshot of your hero box?
ok
This is the 3rd week I'm stuck at 25-32, no mercenary is able to help and I'm losing hope lol. I went from 271 to 275 during the 3 weeks but still no luck.
@violet igloo
The screenshot must be uploading :)
@haughty plinth reset Numisu and Hendrick. Then level Mirael to 120 and others to 90-100. Then your comp is :
Fawkes
Brutus
Mirael
Hogan
Lyca/Arden
try and wait for another copy of lucious
I think you shoud save fodders
getting tank up to mythic for your progress is worth more
okay, will do. Was just trying to get this chapter done to get another brutus (+ one from the event) so I could rank him up to myth as well,
but this stage is giving me some trouble
you seem to be going for an LB team, use all your resources in trying to get more LBs, you will eventually get another lucious
btw you have more than 5 units lvled or am i seeing things wrong? why have skregg and nemora at 120? reset them
@dusty swan leftover from when I had to level up some units to raise my main-team. Yeah, I can reset them. True, thanks for pointing that out ๐
Btw, don't put belinda and shemira in a same comps. Just 1 is enough for your current stage. Put a support instead would be better
^^
arden is amazing with roots, tasi or nemora are great as well. lyca too with haste. all help more than belinda right now
@crude thicket I usually have a Rowan in that team as well as support (instead of belinda). But they just fall over and die ๐
also put your shemira in the front, shes an amazing tank for your lvl
Who should I be lvling Rn?
Usually my lineup is like this:
Rosa
- Shemira
Rowan - Lucius
Fawkes
thats a good lineup @lunar monolith
@limpid pumice belinda, until you can transition over to shemira 161 (mythic)
You can try using tasi. She is kinda op even at low ascension @lunar monolith
Guess it is just unlucky, that the complete enemy team is full of nature-guys. They just die too fast do to something.
I'm not sure if I should invest gold in legendary gear for the others. Right now I'm trying to get a mythic armor for either lucius, brutus or hendrik (whoever comes first)
@crude thicket Tasi instead of Belinda? Sure, will do, hold on
dont put shemira across from arden, he will root her
Don't invest in leg gears
you basically win if shemira gets her ult off
So Belinda and who else
Just focus your gears for main, then tank
@limpid pumice belinda and saveas can be your carries, until you get shemira mythic
Shemira looks fine so far - kinda unlucky i got none of the pieces for her class, but oh well
thats good enough at your lvl, just put her in the front bottom on that lvl so arden doesnt root her
let me give it a try ๐
sure try that, youre early game, honestly almost any lineup works
thanks for the help @dusty swan and @crude thicket - I guess I'm still too UP for that stage. Maybe with a friend-leo or so it might work ๐
yo guys, I made it! ๐ Lyca made the difference
Canโt even get close to beating this
put belinda bottom and kill vedan first
19-36, any tips?
He just does his stupid bat thing over to Nemora before I can even do damage to him
what can i substitute twins in this comp ?
Hi, i need help
Any suggestion on how to beat 11-40? Been stuck for a few days now :/
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Wukong
Nemora
If it doesnt work get your L+ heroes to lvl 141 and try again
@coarse dock you can almost make a Saveas L+ ... Keep an E+ saveas as food so that when your saveas is L you can instantly put him to L+. When he'll be L+ put him to 160 and other heroes to 130.
Appreciate it guys will give it a shot, yeah that's the plan @violet igloo hehe my luck's pretty good with saveas xD
Nope didn't work @winter matrix Rowan and wu kong just get instantly dropped ;(
You will need Nemora to charm Khasos
She's not casting it quick enough that he's doing his axe toss
One the toss is over the sniper just finished them instantly
You can try switching Lyca for Rowan. She will give Nemora the haste to charm him
@coarse dock when you get Saveas to level 160 you will easily clear the level
Yeah not working, I'll just wait, in no rush :) Ty for the help :D
I would like to know the best team comp i can get out rn
Iโm looking for help with Mauler Floor 173. Iโve tried various lineups including Skreg, Satrana, and Skriath. Thank you!
Any tip?
@pale kettle As a general tip, don't ascend heroes to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of them to ascend them straight to L+. For your team comp, you are kind of lacking either LB support (rowan, rosa, lucius) or wilder support (nemora, lyca, tasi). It seems you haven't opened Tasi yet ? Or you only have 1 copy. Either you were unlucky with your pulls or you didn't open a lot of wilder scrolls... As of right now, we have to work with what you have. So what you could try is :
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Ulmus
Also, why did you merc 2 x Rowan ? 
I would indeed recommend going for wilder scrolls because wilder offer lots of CC and are used even in late game after all your heroes are level 240+
Thanks a lot for the help
The rowans ware beacause i was thinking that in the event i could use It
You could try a comp with Grezhul & Izold or Warek & Skreg as your frontline, and at least 1 CC on the back (e.g. Fawkes, Athalia, Mehira). Honestly, any hero will work at your current state, it all comes down to faction bonus and afk-ing for resources @pale kettle
Wowwww lol
Stuck on 11 - 4 with these heroes.. any suggestions?
get saveas to 160 asap
Brute team?
Try
Twins
I>>Rosa
Nara
I>>shemira
Rowan
Rng it so nara draws the brute into your field @scenic frost
Or you can try
Lorsan
Rosa
Rowan
Brutus
Twins
That's the dealio. You need to rng it. I can do it on 2 account you absolutely can do it as well. It happens around 48s usually
Any ideas?