lineup-help

[visual quiver]

wilders is just pure rng

[ashen mantle]

U can always try ur luck with nem charms, if she charms arden at the strt hos gonna root his own team instead

[wind glade]

i try this today, thank you guys 🙂

[latent sandal]

Help pls

[sleek stone]

23-10 any help?

[woven lichen]

@sleek stone

[visual quiver]

3750 pictures lul

[woven lichen]

@wind glade try
Lyca
-shemira
Arden/tasi
-estrilda
Nemora
(Charm Arden)

[opal thistle]

Tower 379 screens anyone?

[olive moth]

@woven lichen what should be my team

[winter matrix]

@opal thistle

@olive moth
Rosaline
Wukong
Mirael
Lucius
Arden/Tasi/Saveas

Saveas and Mirael will be your early game carries. Make sure Rosaline follows Mirael so she can ult multiple times. For a start buy Shemira from lab store until u have 8 copies of her (so, enough copies for A). After that buy Nemora and Thoran. You can focus on Arthur in late game.
Also to get a general grasp of the game I suggest u read the guides in the Pinned messages in #classic-questions . You can see them if u press the three dots in the top right screen

[opal thistle]

thanks @winter matrix!

[pale kettle]

Any recommendations? I thought Lucius-Brutus front
Saveas-Arden-Nemora

[winter matrix]

Belinda
Lucius
Numisu
Brutus
Saveas

[pale kettle]

Ah I try that

[astral plank]

Hard stuck, not sure what to ascend or level

[winter matrix]

All your E+ heroes to lvl 120. Also reset Brutus and lvl another E+

[astral plank]

Should I ascend Isabella or vedan to L?

[raw turret]

Yo my team gets wiped so fast. Any tips?

Vedan @astral plank

Unless you have the means of immediately pushing a unit to Legendary+, don't do it. The exceptions are shop units where you're guarenteed copies, or Legendary tier units such as Saveas, Vedan, etc.

[upper matrix]

I need help with stage 6-24 can anyone elaborate me?

[raw turret]

Wait I just looked at your line-up; do NOT use ascended tier units as fodder to ascend anything, ever. @astral plank

[winter matrix]

@upper matrix
Thane
Wukong
Mirael
Skreg
Safiya

Get a Saveas and then place him where Safiya is. Saveas and Mirael will be your carries in early game

To get a grasp of the game go to #classic-questions and look at the guides in the Pinned Messages

[stone steeple]

Hey. Can someone to help with this

[coarse hamlet]

Should i save the hogan gang for gwyneth or feed em to lucius or rowan?

[winter matrix]

Well dont ascend Lucius and Rowan to L, because u might not get them to L+ anytime soon. You can get Gwyneth to M because shes really good, and you need 1 more E+ for A

[coarse hamlet]

Aight

That means i need lots of hogan to make 2 Legend+

[winter matrix]

Hogan/Mirael/Angelo/Morvus

[amber escarp]

Is this possible with my team or do i need to level up or lend a merc? Any tips on formations?

[opal gulch]

@amber escarp why did u go for tanks/supports first instead of ascending the best dps in the game. you should've ascended belinda first

[amber escarp]

@opal gulch Estrilda carried me pretty much all the way to 140 with the support heroes. In campaign Shemira does most of the mainwork. However, i'm working ascending belinda next for LBs, if i don't get my last elite rowan to ascend him.

[opal gulch]

@amber escarp shemira will fall off at ch24 around there, build belinda quick. she is also the best for LB towers

[amber escarp]

@opal gulch Yeah, i'm farming in Ch23 right now. Would be nice to clear that tower stage, since i get like 18 rare LBs

But yeah.. The solution would be to ascend Belinda or merc her? @opal gulch

[opal gulch]

@amber escarp yup, get her up as soon as possible. She is a priority for LB tower

[amber escarp]

Alright, thanks for your help!

[near silo]

Should i just wait and level up or is there a better line up? Ive been stuck on this for awhile

[winter matrix]

Get your crystal to lvl 160. Also get Lucius and Shemira to 180

[near silo]

K

[amber escarp]

I'm not an expert, but have you tried banishing Shemira with Fawkes? Rosaline with Duras Call is also nice for supporting your Shemira. Do you have those Heroes?

Move Lucius up and let him tank Grezhul.

Also, level up Shem and Lucy to 180. @near silo

[umbral adder]

King's Tower 186. I understand I have to stall for Shemira ult but there seems to be too much burst damage (Lucius dies super fast anywhere as well)

[winter matrix]

You could try

Fawkes
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Nemora

Nemora will hopefully charm Saveas. And he will delete Brutus. Hopefully Fawkes banishes Khasos. If he doesn't you can switch him for Arden

[umbral adder]

nemora seems t obe hitting the brutus instead of the saveas, unfortunately

and i just foddered arden oops

Got the Nemora to charm Saveas; he didn't delete Brutus :P

Am I just underlevelled? I just need a small bit more fodder to ascend Shemira.

[gleaming nacelle]

Help please 22-60 stuck

[dark juniper]

Shem lucius/brutus lyca arden nemora

@gleaming nacelle

[undone pebble]

Hey guys, what can I make with this? I've start afk arena last week so I'm pretty bad.

I'm waiting for nemora/Lyca/fawkes/Lucius but I've to do something before

[gleaming nacelle]

@dark juniper my lyca gets melted

[limpid pumice]

Suggestions?

[olive thorn]

@undone pebble you can run something like

Rowan
Brutus
Gwyn
Wukong
Rosa
(also you can join French Chan in #select-language)

@limpid pumice overlvl your mirael instead of your saveas, remove him and put estrilda in waiting to have etter support

Also you have 7 perso lvled you can reset you can reset golus and Ira

[limpid pumice]

@olive thorn I thought Saveas was better than mirael?

[undone pebble]

@olive thorn thx :3

[olive thorn]

Both have strength and weakness but actually mirael and saveas are the strongest carry for early game... You've better ascend on Mira and you're facing mauler actually so it will be better to run as mirael

[limpid pumice]

So should I ever move back to Saveas?

[olive thorn]

That will depend to your pulls.. If you pulls great support like rowan or Rosa, they're fitting well with mirael so that will be better to run as mirael... Mirael is doing more consistant damage but she have no sustain so if you have not the comp for working around here that will be hard

Saveas have less burst than mirael but he have self sustain so he can do everything alone... So if you don't pull lb supports that will be better to run as saveas

[gleaming nacelle]

The brutus shem support team didn't work anything vs athalia instant dies

[limpid pumice]

@olive thorn but I don’t have any good support rn so why not stick with Saveas?

[bronze veldt]

Silvina keeps killing shem, which heroes should I use?

[olive thorn]

@gleaming nacelle you'll be better on lvling only shem or Belinda not both, just downgrade one of your two carry to 200 and put the 240 to Lucius and 220 to rowan, then remove the other carry from the comp... If you want to keep shem try this one

Rosa
Shem
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

If you want to keep Belinda

Belinda
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

@limpid pumice cause you'll have faction advantage against mauler, you have more lb on your box actually and you have a better ascend on your mirael

@bronze veldt you'll be better on lvling saveas than your shem... Shem have somme difficulty for working well before the lvl 161...i'll reset shem for put saveas 120 and try something like it
Saveas
Brutus
Izold
Skreg
Shemira

[bronze veldt]

Thanks for the advice! Will try it out

[undone pebble]

Lyca/rowan/Rosa/Lucius/Brutus is ok in midgame or not really?

[winter matrix]

You can replace Lyca with Mirael/Saveas. Or Shemira if u have a M one

[lament fox]

any suggestions 😁

[dusty dock]

What should be the best team for me for Soren? His charm is a pain

[winter matrix]

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Baden/Grezhul
Belinda

[dusty dock]

Alright I'll try that

[wary moon]

Greetings. I need help please

[limpid quail]

@undone pebble you need a real carry in your lineup, thats not the case with those 5

[wary moon]

Currenty ay 8-32 and have no idea what to do to push. Any tips would really help

[potent cairn]

i'd overlevel saveas, he's op until you push past lvl 160

[hollow spoke]

why saveas too

shemira is like a better version of him? ive had my saveas in lvl 81 but he dies so fast in battle and im only on chapter 6

[potent cairn]

shemira isn't good until you level her past about 160-180

[hollow spoke]

oh

but to me personally it feels like shemira performs way better than what saveas would do

this is my current setup for arena but i use it sometimes in campaign/tower too

[woven lichen]

@olive moth Saveas Mirael Rosa Lucius and Brutus

[jolly tide]

I've got the reward from assembly of heroes, do I get an extra e+ of nemora so I can go right to L+, or get Lucius to e+?

[dark juniper]

Any suggestions?

[pale kettle]

How do i beat this? 🤔

[true pier]

Any advice on a good lineup, so far I’ve been running hogan and Brutus up front with Saveas, Nemora and Tasi behind

[old ore]

Best nemora lineup?

I mean dark nemora guild boss

[undone pebble]

@limpid quail I don't know what can I change in, Rosa or rowan but with who?

[rain oriole]

@old ore
Rosa
Shem
Rowan
Estrilda
Twins

[old ore]

@rain oriole 38 million... Is that enough?

[rain oriole]

@old ore you just have to get as high as you can, so whatever you get is enough, you could rent a Rosa or Estrilda with sig to get higher if you want

[gilded ruin]

What artifacts do u use on the heroes?

[rain oriole]

@gilded ruin shemira blade, call Rowan, grace twins, drape Estrilda,

[gilded ruin]

Can't get past 132mil :))

[rain oriole]

@true pier Brutus Saveas front, Arden Tasi Nemora back, start getting Saveas to 120

[drowsy galleon]

It feels I'm doing something wrong. 8-32

if 4 out of 5 survive I still don't have enough dmg to finish off Vedan in time.

[limpid quail]

@undone pebble these are both supports, carries are Gwyneth or Belinda for example

[pale kettle]

15-36 any suggestions?

[undone pebble]

@limpid quail with Gwyneth is it better to play Lyca or Fawkes?

[velvet lion]

Any suggestions for stage 22-60? Ive been stuck for awhile

[woven lichen]

@jolly tide generally better to use chests on heroes that you can’t get from the shop. However if it helps you ascend further and break level cap when you need it, that is ok too

@pale kettle you may need some crowd control like tasi or gwyn instead of lyca to eliminate Isabelle or khasos while you take care of other heroes

@velvet lion

@drowsy galleon try twins instead of numisu. Gives you 3 faction support and also boosts saveas and shemira

[final meteor]

23-60

[velvet lion]

@woven lichen the wilder-shemira comp worked perfectly, thank you

[dark juniper]

Can anyone help?

[limpid quail]

@undone pebble depends on the enemy formation I guess if you need the haste or the coffin to take out the biggest threat

[woven lichen]

@final meteor can try using lyca to dodge athalia. If that works, can put in Nemora across from Lucius or at top for some charming and healing

@dark juniper
Rosa
-Lucius
Fawkes
-shemira
Rowan
(Silvina jumps on Rowan or Rosa? May want to put that one with Lucius and hopefully shemira survives to ult, fawkes should dodge athalia but may take several tries)

[dark juniper]

@woven lichen i'll try it out

[final meteor]

@woven lichen thanks it worked

[tawny jewel]

23 46

[winter matrix]

You can try

Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Ferael

But since you dont have a Ferael you can merc one. Or you can use another carry like Belinda/Shemira/Vurk....

[tawny jewel]

@winter matrix anything else?

@winter matrix i dont rly play brutus tasi

[winter matrix]

Idk I'd probably try something like

Belinda
Grezhul
Athalia
Lyca/Lucius
Rowan/Nemora/Tasi

Tasi will hopefully banish Vurk so he doesnt destroy your Grezhul, then Grezhul minions can turn around Brutus. Belinda at the bottom spot will do quite a bit of damage to Skreg & Ankhira, and Athalia is there so Belinda wont get coffined

[tawny jewel]

@winter matrix looks nice

[rich steeple]

@drowsy galleonuse Belinda. Switch out the tiki guy

[drowsy galleon]

@rich steeple tiki?

[winter matrix]

Numisu

[drowsy galleon]

I'll try it, thanks.

[glad gust]

my current team is Belinda(legendary+), Saveas(Elite+), Fawkes(Elite), Estrilda(Elite), and Lucius(Elite). Should I replace one of them with that Wu Kong character we got from the reward? I also have Elite+ Isabella and Shemira, and Elite versions of Eironn, Rosaline, Ezizh, Gorvo, Antandra, Nara, Kelthur, Rowan, Vurk, and Niru.

[winter matrix]

Yes, replace Estrilda. At E she doesnt work that good.

[glad gust]

thanks. with Wu Kong?

[winter matrix]

Yea place Wukong where Estrilda is. You can also send an ss of your heroes, and we can recommend you an optimal lineup

[glad gust]

okay thanks. i'll get a ss one sec

[winter matrix]

Okay ye you can do

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Wukong
Saveas

Get Saveas to L+ as soon as possible. Also you can get Belinda to 140, and she will do crazy damage.

[gleaming nacelle]

Any recommendations?

[glad gust]

Cool, thanks! (so Rowan should be in the middle instead of Saveas?)

[gleaming nacelle]

Rowan should always be in the middle so she can heal the entire team

[glad gust]

ah cool

[gleaming nacelle]

Not always sorry

[winter matrix]

Rowan has to be in the middle, so when he uses his ult he can give all his heroes Energy

[glad gust]

gotcha thanks guys

[gleaming nacelle]

👆🏽

Cwonk can you help me with 22-60?

I'm pretty stuck

[winter matrix]

You could try something like this

Or if you feel like that team wont do it for you, you cab merc a good hero, that will carry you trough the stage.

You could also try

Shemira
Brutus
Rowan/Tasi
Lyca
Nemora

[gleaming nacelle]

I've tried that my lyca gets melted

[winter matrix]

You could also try this, but as I said if it doesnt work come back with a good Mercenary

[gleaming nacelle]

Belinda
Shem
Gwen?
Lucius
Thane/raine?

Belinda shemira and lucius for sure tho

[sonic nebula]

What do I level and roster? Shemira can go 140 just need dust

[gleaming nacelle]

Shemira, lucius, rowan, rosa, fawkes(or maybe rain I hear she is good end game?)

[winter matrix]

Take out Shemira. Her damage before 161+ is really lackluster. After that get Saveas/Mirael to L+ as soon as possible. They will really be carries in early game. For a comp you can do

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Saveas

[gleaming nacelle]

Saveas early game for sure

[slim comet]

Any tips on heroes and formation would be greatly appreciated!

[winter matrix]

Reset Shemira. Her damage & Tanking ability before 161+ isnt that impressive. You can do something like

Saveas
Eironn
Tasi
Wukong
Ulmus

You'll get a 4 faction bonud and a lot of cc

[slim comet]

ahh thanks! my saveas is still rare, i will try working on him but still worth using over shemira or anyone else?

[winter matrix]

He and Mirael are way better than Shemira in early game. After Shemira gets lvl 161+ She will take over the carry role

[slim comet]

gotcha. so my rare saveas is still better than elite baden/tidus/estrilda/hogan/fawkes?

[violet igloo]

Yes

[opal dune]

Why is fawkes coffin not working here ?

[subtle talon]

Hey, any ideas? I know I’m pretty highe and can just whait 1/2/3 days but still hope I can get further 🙂

[old ore]

Best wrizz / soren lineup? I hit low numbers, need to up my guild hunt game a bit

[plush patrol]

Is this beatable or should I just afk for a few days?

[austere nova]

halp...

KT 323

[tawny jewel]

@austere nova
Fawkes
Estrilda
Rownan
Lucius
Farael
Maybe? Just an idea

@plush patrol try swapping lucius and sav

[plush patrol]

@tawny jewel tried that, didn’t work :/

[knotty cedar]

So the past couple of days I've upgraded and gained some new heroes need help getting a team together. Chapter 16 - 13 is where I am

[tawny jewel]

@knotty cedar reset brutus and rosaline and take them to lvl 160. Then take shem to lvl 200. Shem should always be 40 lvls above the rest. Now focus on getting 1 hero per faction to ascended in order to raise your lvl cap

[knotty cedar]

@tawny jewel ok I did it, I just need to get a line up now

[tawny jewel]

@knotty cedar use smthing like
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca

@knotty cedar you can now skip a chapter

@knotty cedar show me the stage you are in campaign with this lineup

[old ore]

Best wrizz / soren lineup? I hit low numbers, need to up my guild hunt game a bit

[knotty cedar]

@tawny jewel

[placid flower]

That's good. You have mehira also? @knotty cedar

[knotty cedar]

@placid flower who is that?

[placid flower]

A good hero

[final meteor]

@old ore the usual shemira Belinda rosaline rowan twins

[whole kettle]

anyone have any tips? any mercs that would help? my normal team just doesn't get close, at all 😦

[woven lichen]

@whole kettle tasi banishes saveas(?) could try using Thoran against warek

[whole kettle]

tasi banishes nothing, i only now notice 😮 i suppose she's banishing warek which gets denied. I could defnitely try the thoran with a merc, thanks 🙂

[arctic oasis]

So.. should I focus more on getting Lucius copies or lean more towards trying to get a Shemira?

[whole kettle]

@arctic oasis go for shemira in the lab store, and you can not go for lucius specifically. you can focus on both 🙂

don't buy into stargazer, if that is how you wanted to focus on lucius

[arctic oasis]

So should I just say "screw it" to the weeklies saying to buy something from lab store? And what is stargazer?

[pale kettle]

need help kaz is insane lol

[whole kettle]

@arctic oasis you should be able to complete the weeklies without doing the lab store quest, so yeah.. 🙂 and the stargazer unlocks later in the game then, it's a diamond wasting feature 😄

[pale kettle]

unless you get the hero you need then its lit

this is stargazer

[whole kettle]

for a whopping 25k diamonds on average, ehhh idk ^^

[pale kettle]

unless your luck is insane like mine 😄

[whole kettle]

@pale kettle have you tried replacing your backline with the triple wilder setup? tasi nemora lyca

@pale kettle also, arden is insanely strong at your level, you could replace nemora with him

[arctic oasis]

Myself, i tend to get stuck on assasssin stages, so I thought honing on Lucius was a good plan.

I was more curious what factions i should focus in the uh... friends points thing

[pale kettle]

i used arden for my nemora

[harsh solstice]

@arctic oasis always buy Shemira copies from lab until you get enough for A. Also saveas is a good carry. For faction scrolls, do lb or wilder

[pale kettle]

L+ but he was just elite and no i havnt tried that everyone gets auto melted except shemira

[arctic oasis]

My lineup recently. >>

[harsh solstice]

Definitely buy Shemira @arctic oasis Also Lucius and other tanks are pretty weak low level, esp vs burst or overleveled teams cuz they lack the stats. Exception is Brutus who can survive for a guaranteed 7 seconds

[arctic oasis]

I also need to learn to survive lab

[manic ivy]

Played for abt a week now I use my first 5 as a team, can I do a better team with my box?

[arctic oasis]

Prob too late to ask for lab help too. 😂

[pale kettle]

lucious and shemira should go hand in hand

[harsh solstice]

@manic ivy you’re too early in game for anything to surpass that team really. Except probably use belinda instead of the male graveborn. Vedan? Idk name. Just buy Shemira from lab and build her plus saveas. Those two will be your strongest heroes for now

[pale kettle]

i would use the tree @manic ivy hes insane early game with his heals and fat dmg lol

[rugged ice]

I can’t beat 21-54

[arctic oasis]

Does lab give lab points per stage? Per floor? ... Per reset?

[pale kettle]

per stage

[olive moth]

how do i pass

[arctic oasis]

Found Skriath Elite+ on my Lab. What sort of niche does he fill?

[subtle talon]

How can I kill this guy? :/

[pale kettle]

C17-24 need help 🤔

It's not new @arctic oasis you can pick hard mode for about 3 patches if not more

[arctic oasis]

Well it's the first I've seen it. Which one is "hard mode"? Also deleted my other posts so I'm not drowning out others' help.

[pale kettle]

Either that or you've reached a certain point of level where you can do it, the red one is hard mode I wouldn't suggest going in if you didn't pick the relics that gave you confidence they're really challenging sometimes

[green saddle]

Do you guys see someway to pass this ? That Niru stays until the end and kills everybody.

[ripe garnet]

Need help with chapter 16-40 'been stuck for ages

[green saddle]

*I know that I should not have that 2 Legendaries but Shemira I can buy 🤣 and will only do L+ after reading you guys

[grizzled egret]

I'm still new and I'm not really sure what would make a proper team from my hero pool or who I should be investing in, any advice on that?

[raw turret]

Should I change anything?

[shell heron]

Abit stuck

[shell hamlet]

What artfiacts should i be running ?

[mortal flax]

This was my best try at 14-23 but I just get decimated, it's not a damage done problem the intake is crazy

[shell hamlet]

@shell heron try putting Nemora in the back middle and getting a charm on fereal

[echo bloom]

Optimal lineup for chapter 11?

[rain oriole]

@echo bloom Saveas and Lucius/Brutus/talene up front
Arden Fawkes Tasi twins (if they are surviving) at the back, you test out multiple formations depending on the stage

[echo bloom]

only 1 of lucius or brutus?

[rain oriole]

Sometimes Lucius will be getting 1 shotted so you need to use Brutus or sometimes you can use them together

[graceful hearth]

20-52. Dear god I hate Wilders. Is there anything I can do for this mess? Shem is usually up front but im fairly sure she can’t survive frontline in this mess

[drifting root]

What should i use vs ice shem if i have no ezizh?

[rain oriole]

@graceful hearth try out this formation

@drifting root Estrilda/Belinda/twins

[shell heron]

@shell hamlet didn't work mate

[graceful hearth]

@rain oriole I was close! I think your comp will work. Thanks!

What relics did you put on who, by chance? I don’t have chalice or invigoration

[shell heron]

Any help

[rain oriole]

@graceful hearth it was probably blade shem, call Rowan, eye Arden, drape Brutus and whatever in Lyca, im sure you can get it after some retries, just keep restarting until your Arden gets his initial root on their kaz and Arden, should be good from there

[graceful hearth]

Alright, I’ll give it a whirl. Thanks, again!

I’ll be damned. First try after swapping the relics. Thanks!

[rain oriole]

@shell heron generally for these Ferael stages you want to charm him so he puts spirits on his own team, is your Lucius able to survive the soul siphon from Shemira or is the Fawkes just confining her? You can try
Fawkes/Arden
Lucius/Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan/Lyca

@graceful hearth gz :) never be afraid to pull out the trusty Arden, I remember using him alot

[clever patio]

Nvm it worked

[mortal flax]

how do I stop losing my heroes after 2 seconds at 14-28, the damage is insane

[shell heron]

@rain oriole it isn't working, yes Lucius dies to fast due to Shemira

[deft yoke]

Hello, do you guys have some tips to upgarde my team to rush early game ? I think i need one more tank to cover my backlane. Thx a lot for the read and your potential help !

[shell heron]

Never mind I swapped places with Brutus and Shemira

[rain oriole]

Gz

[radiant tundra]

Looking for assistance with Ice Shemira lineup. Can anybody help?

[rain oriole]

@deft yoke reset Nemora and level her to 101, then put the rest of the xp into Mirael, put Fawkes and Brutus in your crystal then try
Tasi
Gorvo
Mirael
Brutus
Lyca

[clever patio]

@radiant tundra the twins help a lot

[radiant tundra]

@clever patio no copies of the twins sadly.

[mortal flax]

14-28 I just get destroyed in seconds

[rain oriole]

You can use mercs for these bosses so try and Merc one if you can, otherwise try
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Ezizh
Belinda
@radiant tundra

[deft yoke]

Thx Tomk ! :D

[rain oriole]

@mortal flax Lucius won't be able to face tank that Saveas and Brutus, can you post a screenshot of all your heroes

[lost hound]

10-19. When should I use Shemira over Saveas? Level 141? 161? Also, how dumb is it to make Lucius L rn? I only need 1 more copy for L+

[rain oriole]

@mortal flax try
Mirael
Skreg
Rowan
Brutus
Rosa

Or

Tasi
Lucius/skreg
Mirael
Brutus
Nemora
Try and get Nemora to charm saveas

[deft yoke]

But there is some things i dont undestand. Why level up nemora 101 if i dont use her and why put Fawkes in my crystal ?

[mortal flax]

@rain oriole will try , the first didn't work earlier , but maybe the second will

[rain oriole]

@deft yoke I mean reset Nemora from 111 and then Level her to 101, then you can level up Mirael to 111 instead because she is your DPS. Fawkes is a very good hero that you will use alot, useful for banishing one enemy and removing shields

[deft yoke]

Yeah i need to max mirael but you didnt put nemora in my team. You want me To lvl up brutus instead maybe

[rain oriole]

@lost hound you will be using Saveas up to 160, once shemira gets mythic and you can take her to 161 she will replace Saveas. You'd rather make another fodder hero to L/L+, you don't want to invest in Lucius yet, ideally you want more copies of him before you do,

[mortal flax]

@rain oriole nah all combinations are just obliterated

maybe I should just level them higher

[rain oriole]

@deft yoke you won't always use her but sometimes you will, you only need to level up 5 heroes, any other you want to use can go in the resonating crystal, so you can put Brutus in the resonating crystal

@mortal flax yh if any formations aren't surviving at all it may just be that you need to afk and level up

[mortal flax]

just looks stupid when lucius and skreg as well as rowan in back are dead in like 2-3 seconds before even using ult

[rain oriole]

If you have an Arden though, he would be helpful in this stage, try one of those of those formations but put Arden in the number 5 spot, disabling 3 enemies at the start will help them survive longer, just something you can try

[mortal flax]

only arden is rare lul, didnt really use him ever just as fodder

[mortal crystal]

Help on 19-32. Have used Arden, lyca,nemora, Shem, and Brutus. No progress. They traded tasi for arden. Help please.

[plucky sonnet]

What’s my ideal ice shemira ?

[woven lichen]

@mortal crystal charmed Isabelle or Belinda with your setup? Shemira top or bottom?

you could try Rowan Rosa fawkes and Lucius but they would take more damage from Graveborn...

@plucky sonnet try shemira Rosan Rosa Lucius and twins

[mortal crystal]

Shem on top and swapped to bottom last ten trust @woven lichen

[plucky sonnet]

Yeah that’s what I used. Only 45m

[lunar berry]

What’s my ideal team here

[teal glade]

I've almost got 25-5 with this but not quite. Any possible improvements?

Nvm I forgot to better gear athalia and give athalia warek lucius duras items

[last granite]

I think I need cc but arden dies instantly and my ferael is only elite. Any thoughts?

[ashen mantle]

@last granite yeah khassos kills ur arden :)

[woven lichen]

@mortal crystal can try with Belinda instead... Belinda Rowan Rosa Lucius fawkes/Brutus

[last granite]

@ashen mantle

[tribal sluice]

so im starting to slow down in progress (6-16) and since I have a couple decent pulls, wondering if I can get some lineup help.

I know that most people recommend saveas to be focused first but I got a bunch of good wilders pulls and held off on that.

[mortal crystal]

Thank you @woven lichen

[brittle summit]

Need help with clearing kings tower floor 300

[dreamy flicker]

Advice pls 😂😁

[shell heron]

Help please

[glossy pagoda]

@shell heron the most promising approaches i can think of, are using either nara, or going for wilders urself, with tasi lyca arden (duras call). Maybe even
Tasi
Shemira/lyca
Mehira
Lyca/shemira
Arden
Both mehira and nara should definetly get a place on your crystal imo

[shell hamlet]

@glossy pagoda do u know which artifacts i should be running

[glossy pagoda]

Eye/grace
Blade/eye
Call
Blade/grace
Cape
Would i recommend

Probaply the variant with blade on shemira is best

I use merc shemira and ezizh with double blade tho

[high loom]

Can I do anything? I have ascended Belinda and Brutus in my mercs

[astral plank]

Not even getting close. All I have is 5 faction scrolls. I can get L Ira and Isabella. Thanks!

[high loom]

Esterlida* not belinda

[uneven comet]

Alright boi's it's finally time to ascend! Which one? Rosaline or Lucius?

[woven lichen]

@astral plank try saveas at top... mainly need to get niru quickly warek might work instead of vedan too

[granite crypt]

hello, just started playing a few days ago, want some help. this is my current lineup, i usually do Wu Kong and Lucius front and the other 3 in the back, should I be approaching things differently? I'm a little stuck rn. Should I be using different heroes or just a different formation?

[woven lichen]

@uneven comet Lucius benefits more from ascension... but might also be nice to wait for more elite copies if you aren’t level capped so you can go straight to ascended instead of being stuck at mythic+

@granite crypt saveas overleveled by 20-40 levels or using Mirael should help a lot... Hogan and golus are decent tanks too

[uneven comet]

I can also make Fawkes mythic

[granite crypt]

thanks :D who should i swap out then?

[onyx mural]

Which graveborn should I ascend? Wait for grind for the mythic assassin or?

[woven lichen]

@uneven comet fawkes is ok too since shop hero but should focus more on ascending heroes alll the way.... so don’t want to make too many mystics. Want to get two more elite+ and make sure can go ascended

@granite crypt probably vedan... only need two tanks

[pale kettle]

@onyx mural Get Silvina to L+ first before anyone else

[onyx mural]

Bet that was what I was thinking

Which elite+ to keep after tho?

[pale kettle]

Nara and Izold...but only if you have another E+ copy of them to ascend them to L+ immediately

[brisk pecan]

Should I be leveling my belinda or my lucius? The level 2 lucius upgrade looks good

[ashen mantle]

@brisk pecan is that just a visual bug or do you have 6 heroes leveled :D, if so reset one and put it into the crystal. your missing tons of exp/dust/gold that is holding back your levels

[brisk pecan]

....oh @ashen mantle I have 6. Doesnt using the crystal not allow them to level up their abilities ?

[ashen mantle]

@brisk pecan it rly depends on what your crystal min level hero is out of the top 5 leveled heroes, it does level their abilities

[brisk pecan]

I never use shem... maybe I'll reset her

[ashen mantle]

@brisk pecan shemira becomes alot more powerfull at lvl161+ 🙂

[meager parrot]

how do you even do this, athalia oneshots everything (except for brutus due to his ability) and arden just immobilizes everything

[brisk pecan]

Oh... so now that saveas is maxed who should I do ? Belinda DMG will be better but the ult from lucius will be awesome with the upgrade @ashen mantle

[sacred badge]

Yeah don't reset Shemira she should be one of your 5 champions that you are leveling.
@meager parrot no point letting Nemora tank for you. Put Nemora in #2 position if you must have her in front. Also why not use Shemira here? This is battle of who deals tons of damage first. Athalia with ultimate will kill most of your team anyway.

[brisk pecan]

Right. I'll reset hogan @sacred badge

[ashen mantle]

@brisk pecan how many shemiras copies you got ? 😄

[sacred badge]

That's a good call. Hogan isn't top tier hero.

[ashen mantle]

@sacred badge @brisk pecan depedning on how many copies you got of shem/hogan to increase the level cap, might be better to reset shemira for now untill shes higher. if your using belinda for dmg

[brisk pecan]

So I'll level up my belinda for now to 141. Hogan is usually my number 2 but is honestly super useless

And my shem is only legendary

[ashen mantle]

@brisk pecan using him to increase you crystal level isnt a bad idea, when you have him on L and a E copy of him. getting him to L+ you can increase your crystal to lvl 141/160 which would increase your progress by alot. and later swaping him for shemira and continue to level her while she can go to higher ascention M"L180"/M+"L200"/A"L240"

[brisk pecan]

Hmmm alright maybe I'll drop shem down... hell be l+ before her

[ashen mantle]

yeah and than swap back to shemira when you get her to L+, it doesnt cost that much its only 20diamonds per reset so your not losing much

[sacred badge]

That makes sense. But you should try to get (buy) Shemira whenever possible (i.e. from LAB store etc.).
Also that Saveas needs to be on Crystal with some decent gear, he can carry your team.

[brisk pecan]

Thanks so much! Saveas is insane for Now

Should I be putting my Belinda to 141 first or lucius now?

[ashen mantle]

thats for when you have 5 heroes on Mythic youll need to swap saveas for some1 else, becouse of the problem of level cap of legendary tier heroes

@brisk pecan not sure about that one, didnt focus on LB in the early game and only now focusing on them

[sacred badge]

Belinda can carry, Lucius can't. It's logical to level up your damage dealer first.

[meager parrot]

@sacred badge nemora was at pos 1 to heal a bit, I still don't know if lucius or nemora on spot 2 is better. I'd use shamira but her level is too low to be able to use her ult in time

I almost got 40k dust though, I could lvl shem to 240 relatively soon

[latent sandal]

Help please

[sacred badge]

@meager parrot Lucius is tankier than Nemora. Maybe try switching both unit's positions? And I always use Shemira in front line so she can get / soak some damage which helps her build her energy to use Ultimate faster. You can also try Tasi here. CC is always good and Tasi sometimes can take advantage of RNG and survive longer.

Nemora is good for charm but I assume she's dying before she can heal anyone.

[latent sandal]

Can anyone see my messages

[mint sail]

what LINE-UP should I put together to reach 100% in BURNING BRUTE event?

-this is all the heroes that I have-

I tried baden + shem + rose + Raine + Bel but they can reach 86% only

I guess elijah n lailah or rowan is needed to play their part in getting 100%

speed is everything?

[sacred badge]

@latent sandal
1.Shemira
2.Brutus (enemy Saveas will be focusing him).
3. Tasi or Nemora (whoever survives enemy Silvina)
4. Fawkes or Belinda
5. Athalia (so she can keep enemy Ankhira busy for a while to prevent her from CC anyone).

@mint sail yes maybe replace Rose with Twins? They die faster though.

[calm hound]

Any ideas? 😁

Oh btw I normally use estrilda, i wanted to try ira for the battle

[sacred badge]

@calm hound Do you have any Saveas?
Try replacing Ira with Thoran, he can debuff one of enemy mages.

Or replace Ira with Raine (this will give you 3x LB Synergy). And you also need that Rowan on crystal.

[dreamy mirage]

This ends before it even starts help.

[calm hound]

@sacred badge switching ira with thoran worked, thank you

[sacred badge]

@dreamy mirage
Let Shemira tank Ankhira and Brutus tank Brutus. Shemira will die faster if you keep her on #2.

1. Shemira
2. Brutus
3. Rowan (yeah he needs to be behind Shemira)
4. Tasi
5. Nemora for Charm or Lyca for Energy.

@calm hound glad it worked. Congrats.

[tribal sluice]

can i get some help, chapter 6-6. Didn't focus on anything till I got a decent mix of epics

[sacred badge]

@tribal sluice I don't remember what are enemies on 6-6 but you can't go wrong with:
Hogan and Wukong as tanks
Belinda, Saveas, Arden (or Nemora) in the back.

[tribal sluice]

@sacred badge why not use lyca or eironn instead of saveas?

[pale kettle]

Lyca can only benefit starting haste, which isn't very beneficial if you don't have any CC or anti-CC heroes on your team.

Eironn at his ascension level isn't very good compared to Saveas, at least in your collection.

[tribal sluice]

i see, thanks

should i be aiming for the trio wilders combo?

[pale kettle]

at your stage? not necessary, but if you're willing to be patient then go ahead

[surreal pecan]

Any ideas? I’m getting bodied

[modest dove]

any ideas who i should use for ice shem?as in i see best comps being twins rosa rowan ezhizh & a carry..should my carry b belinda or shem?dun have talene sadly

[surreal pecan]

...

[pale kettle]

@surreal pecan
Brutus and Estrilda frontline; Nara, Lucius, Shemira backline

put Nara across Silvina so she can keep her at bay

oof

just realized you won't have any faction bonus with that formation

[surreal pecan]

Plus estrilda frontline is equivalent to not having a hero there lol Everyone gets blown up

Except for Brutus and Shem ofc

[atomic forge]

any advice how to beat that? am stuck

[worthy bane]

@atomic forge from my experience in lower level accounts, you have two options.
A) Use Brutus bottom front and get some good Belinda ult rng
B) Just afk, early on it's super hard to fight when under in levels

[deep anvil]

Stuck on map 8. Any help with how to line up and focus on who to ascend?

[worthy bane]

@deep anvil Huuuuge tip for you. Reset any E heros you have leveled and put those levels into an E+ hero, doesn't matter who (I'd pick Nemora and Skreg) and get all your main 5 to 101

[winter matrix]

^^^

[rigid rampart]

Any thoughts on this line up. Should I switch heros kinda stuck on map 8-22

[pale kettle]

switch numisu and rosaline's positions

[deep anvil]

@worthy bane ill try that. Thanks.

[winter matrix]

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Saveas

Get Saveas to 160 as soon as possible. In early game he will be your carry. You can look at the guides in the Pinned comments here and in #classic-questions to get a grasp of the game. @rigid rampart

[rigid rampart]

Ok thx alot appreciate the feed back

[full finch]

What line up do you suggest against ice witch shemira?

[winter matrix]

Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Estrilda
Belinda

Is what I would go with

[umbral adder]

16-20. Rosaline dies too fast, and Shemira doesn't seem to recover much HP when she ults.

[winter matrix]

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes/Tasi/Nemora

If it isnt working I suggest you get a merc... Mercs are what everyone uses when they have to beat a wall

[full finch]

@winter matrix bronze V, 17.4 mil damage ... that didn't work too well 😄

@umbral adder I'd personally use Nara instead of Raine and position her to the top against Silvina - that way you'll counter Silvina giving time for Rosaline to survive longer. And since she follows Shemira, swap Shemira with Lucius so she won't have to go too far. This is my counter strategy, but you can go with DD Belinda as cwonk suggested

[ocean ravine]

Hi everyone who can tell me the good team for this ?

[maiden pagoda]

What to do bruhhh

[covert osprey]

try charming ferael with nemora,

[royal grotto]

Stuck in most notorius 20-44 for 10 days

[maiden pagoda]

Shem front row Rosa behind

[covert osprey]

@maiden pagoda try removing fawkes, use
nemora
-grezhul
ferael
-belinda
lucius

hopefully that lucius can knock down vedan before he kills belinda

@royal grotto try swapping fawkes and lucius positions ?

[maiden pagoda]

No Rowan?

They have insane burst damage thanks to Estri

[covert osprey]

try without rowan.
you have enough cc in your team atm. if it doesnt work

try
nemora
-grezhul
rowan
-belinda
lucius

[royal grotto]

@covert osprey it takes 15secs for fawkes to die, and i cannot kill even 1

[maiden pagoda]

Everything dies when Estri charges 😂 did a few attempts but get this far everytime

[covert osprey]

@maiden pagoda is the nemora charming ferael ?

@royal grotto how much dodge does your fawkes have ?

[maiden pagoda]

Nope she ain't as far as I can see

[covert osprey]

try to get her to charm ferael. its is necessary so he can scare his own team.

[winter matrix]

Well just retry until she charms Ferael

[maiden pagoda]

She ain't cause she only tries charming the Grez or Estri then dies to the charge onslaught

[covert osprey]

you need to retry a lot. that nemora is a rng heavy charmer

[maiden pagoda]

😐

[covert osprey]

yeah i myself dont like it. i have retried a stage more than 10-20 times to get nemora to charm right once.

[maiden pagoda]

Fuck that

[royal grotto]

@covert osprey 315

[covert osprey]

hmm wont work. need atleast above 360-400

[maiden pagoda]

Yeah nah I just tried 10-15 times and she gets interupted or dies

Think I just don't got the levels or gear

[covert osprey]

@royal grotto who does fawkes coffin ?

[maiden pagoda]

Nvm I put in Athalia and gg 😂 just gotta reroll a few tries to get the right rng

[covert osprey]

nice

[maiden pagoda]

Ty for help

[covert osprey]

no probs.

[royal grotto]

He cannot, he tries on warek and fails. And I cannot proceed further since i cannot level anyone... this is stupid. @covert osprey t

[covert osprey]

oh then fawkes is useless in this match if he captures warek because its a bug

try using rosaline instead of fawkes
shemira
-brutus
rowan
-rosaline
lucius

@royal grotto

also later try this
shemira
-brutus
rowan
-tasi
lyca

give call to tasi and eye to shemira

[royal grotto]

First one doesn’t work since mercenary brutus is too strong, rosa follows him and since he is the main target of that op warek, she dies pretty quick. Tryi no the second one now@covert osprey

[covert osprey]

ooof okay.

try using your brutus instead. i thought you were using your L brutus

[maiden pagoda]

Hey why'd you suggest Belinda in front of Lucius? Curious @covert osprey

[covert osprey]

lucius in front takes time to knock enemies down.
Lucius when back , walks to the front and immediately knocks the enemy , giving you atleast 2-3 seconds of grace time till the enemy gets up.

this wont work for enemies like kaz , warek or skreg because kaz dodges, warek shields and skreg is too big to knock down

[maiden pagoda]

Ah fair enough, thanks for that knowledge

Finally 😭😭

[royal grotto]

Mine was dying pretty quick, I’ll try with my Brutus and mercenary tasi @covert osprey

[sacred badge]

Tasi is support / utility / crowd control. She's not Mercenary.
Mercenary is a champion that focuses on 1 enemy at a time to deal tons of damage in short span. Like Athalia or Silvina.

[royal grotto]

@sacred badge if you borrow it from your friend, then she is mercenary.

[sacred badge]

Aah I thought in literal sense. These are Semantics. You are correct.

[royal grotto]

Well it doesn’t work, I’ll drop this game if I cannot pass this in one week @covert osprey

[sacred badge]

@royal grotto Hmm I cleared that stage recently. This is what I used:
1.Brutus
2.Shemira
3.Raine
4.Tasi
5.Rowan

Took me few tries but finally Shemira killed them all.

[maiden pagoda]

Raine

[sacred badge]

My Raine has high signature levels to aid Shemira with Energy / health asap.

[royal grotto]

I do not have Raine, will try something without her. I despise her lol. If I had 2 more copies of Brutus, I would make him mythic but seems like I stuck for now : ( @sacred badge

[sacred badge]

I try to give Shemira early ultimate as soon as possible. So Raine helps her greatly with her Signature level. Lyca is also used sometimes.
Now I use Raine alongside Shemira every match.

[maiden pagoda]

@sacred badge actually looks like a good S.I

[limpid quail]

you can watch the sig items ingame now btw, just go to the portraits tab in the heroes section

[burnt rune]

Do I have any chance on clearing mauler tower 60 with this?

[still oar]

Merc a great khasos @burnt rune

[winter matrix]

The only way I could do this was with an OP Khasos

[burnt rune]

Hadn't thought of that cheers

[mortal jolt]

is my line up alright? and idk who to change to for ankhira :/

[burnt rune]

Turns out all my friends list has is a M khasos so anyone who has a good khasos want to help me out 😅 ID:41164540

[limpid quail]

@burnt rune #mercenary for merc/ friend requests

[burnt rune]

Will do!

[dark juniper]

What relics should i use for ice shemira (ezizh,shem,twins,rowan and rosaline)?

[sacred badge]

@mortal jolt replace Ankhira with Saveas of-course. But try to level up your 5 main champions. Level 1 is no good.

[winter matrix]

@mortal jolt

Skriath
Brutus
Rowan
Wukong
Nemora

[mortal jolt]

@sacred badge @winter matrix ty! new server and new player haha

[vapid ibex]

Any suggestions for this stage. Shemira is a tank beyond belief lol

[winter matrix]

Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Tasi

[dim slate]

is someone have done 26-30 with lb team here ? please

[daring adder]

im stuck at 11-40, few hundred tries in

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/547785734766067722/669132880449896468/Screenshot_20200121-115146_AFK_Arena.jpg

[winter matrix]

Get your crystal to lvl 140

[daring adder]

egh, that'll take some time

[delicate badge]

Should I continue pulling for LB or pull wilders for a better future?

[ebon veldt]

KT291

my main dps is usually khasos but he gets triple staggered by estrilda ferael ogi here

[still oar]

Try charm ferael with nemora in place of khasos

@ebon veldt the 290 one was also floor 291

[ebon veldt]

darnit guess I'll wait for higher crystal all my guys dying from 1 or 2 hits

[still oar]

You don't have too. You just have to try a bit harder to get the rng right

[subtle talon]

Any idea? Need it for next x10 summon 🙂

[pliant herald]

Shold i change any heros? Im thinking shemira with raine

[ebon veldt]

neither

you are going to hit a level cap with just E heroes put them in crystal instead until they have higher ascension tiers than your non crystal heroes

[last granite]

Anyone know how to beat this?

[maiden pagoda]

@last granite try Fawkes for Nem

[last granite]

@maiden pagoda i'll try swapping rosaline with mehira

[karmic summit]

Anyone around here who could recommend me a good/best lineup with that roster?
I'm currently running top5 chars

[true forge]

Am i stuck here? I need 1 more e+ fooder then ill get saveas to 141, should i just wait for that or try something with current rooster

[winter matrix]

Take out Shemira. Also a ss of your full hero box would help

[true forge]

@winter matrix

Im kinda just using shemira till i upgrade saveas atm

[winter matrix]

Get Lucius to 121. Also reset Wukong and lvl up another E+. This will raise crystal cap to 120. You can also reset Isabella and Ira, to get some exp. For a comp you can do

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Eironn
Arden/Tasi

Make sure to lvl all your E+ heroes to 120, and get a Saveas to L+ as soon as possible.

[last granite]

22-42. For anyone who needs the comp.

Shem: dura's call
Lucius: dura's chalice
Brutus: dura's blade
Fawkes: dura's grace
Mehira: dura's drape

[short sonnet]

Any ideas ?

[lament birch]

Tough one :/

[last granite]

@short sonnet swap shemira and brutus.
Counter arden with athalia/nara

So you might wanna try removing either rosaline/rowan (rowan will lasts better tho)

@lament birch I beat it with this

[old ore]

Ice Shem lineup?

[short sonnet]

@last granite shem keeps getting charmed by nem :(

[last granite]

@short sonnet you could try countering nem instead of arden but that'd be the worse choice here, unless you have both athalia and nara.

You can try experimenting with these:
Shemira
Ferael/belinda/safiya
Lucius/rowan
Brutus
Athalia/nara

[short sonnet]

Thank you very much

[pale kettle]

I beat 22-60 with this team Incase it will help someone else

[ripe garnet]

Need help with 16-40 plz

[winter matrix]

Fawkes
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda/Rosaline

[pale kettle]

Need help for 24-55

[twin hare]

21-2. Is this an RNG stage or am I stuck at this point? I have estrilda/rowan/gwyneth/raine/fawkes as other LB options (none higher than L though).

[primal bridge]

21-10

[dusty dock]

I can't kill their Frontline fast enough before 2 of my tanks die. Any help will be appreciated

[winter matrix]

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Nemora

Hopefully Nemora will charm Saveas and he will delete his team

[pale kettle]

Is world tower 285 even beatable?

[dusty dock]

@winter matrix I tried that, but their Saveas can't kill Golus quick, then he'll be back to killing Lucius then Nemora

[winter matrix]

@pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Ty

[winter matrix]

@dusty dock You could try with a really good merc like Shemira, Khasos, Safiya

[dusty dock]

@winter matrix Merc will probably be level 148, is Shemira ok?

[winter matrix]

A lvl 148 Shemira isnt that good. I mean if she's A she could do something

[dusty dock]

Okay I'll try that in 4 days, it's on cool down now

[last granite]

For someone who needs it, 22-60

[shrewd elm]

What would be a good general comp?

[tawny jewel]

brutus lcius front

belinda rownan lyca/tasi back

[frozen wave]

any advice on who i should get in labyrinth shop? keep boosting Shemira? (saveas has been an awesome carry, idk if using her and breaking aura would help or hurt yet). But also no Nemora yet and i feel like shed be a great swap for Arden on levels where i need some heals/support. Any help is MUCH appreciated!!

been using Gorvo, saveas, tasi, arden and safiya btw

and just hit 120 today with everyone on resonating crystal for the ability to boost saveas as well

[rain oriole]

@frozen wave you can get Saveas to 160 now and he will carry you for a while, you can buy a Nemora in lab if you want, she will be very helpful but after that keep buying Shemira until you get enough of her for Ascended, once you get her mythic and lvl 161+ she will replace saveas
You could use Saveas Lucius/Ulmus/Gorvo up front with Arden Tasi Nemora/Thane in the back
Also if you take all those Legendary heroes of the crystal and level those instead your Elite+, you would be able to go 121+, but use your dust to get Saveas to 141+ first

[vocal zodiac]

Just looking for some advice on my lineup. Currently using Lucius/Belinda/Shemira/Rowan/Rosaline. I see people saying Saveas, but honestly everytime I use him it never works as well for me.

[sleek stone]

anybody here has a lineup for 23-26

[upper flint]

@vocal zodiac Saveas L+ carrys you ez

[sharp raptor]

Guys, I'm stucked at 7-8, please, I really need an advice for my lineup and hints for my heroes

[vocal zodiac]

@upper flint who should I replace for him then? Or should I wait until I have him L+

[green saddle]

@sharp raptor Shemira will shine after level 161. Saveas and Lucius with more levels would help you a lot

That LB’s eat Maulers so, if you use more LB, better

Probably works with big Saveas resenting Shemira

[heavy sandal]

So... 22-60. The one with the Boss Athalia at 2-star lvl 265. Also in that mission are Thane, Lucius, Raine, and Arden.

My normal top team is
Shemira 240 5-star with SI 19
Hendrick 240 Asc SI 20
Rowan 220 Asc SI 17
Belinda 220 Asc SI 16
Nemora 220 Asc SI 10

total strength 1843K [me] v 2792k [them]

I have tried Nara, Safiya, Lucius, Rosaline and my own Athalia in various combos to try and slow Athalia down, but nothing works well enough. The average fight is about 8 seconds long and is over as soon as Athalia uses her ult.

Suggestions?

[sharp raptor]

@green saddle so you recommend me to reset Shemira and invest on Saveas?

[modest dove]

meta comp for ice shem seems to be carry,rosa,twins,ezizh and rowan..for me who should my carry be,shem or belinda..also any idea how artifacts should b distributed?blade for carry,eye for rosa,call for rowan & health for twins + ezizh? my rowan is only e+ and twins at e so sadly rowan doesn’t have his SI yet..@novel adder sorry to trouble you but do you have any insights on this?

[green saddle]

Yes

And use him to kill that Niru

[sharp raptor]

and what about Lucius? if I hard level Saveas to 100, should i keep him and the entire team like 80?

[limpid quail]

@heavy sandal use screenshots to explain your state so we can figure out easier whats going on and where is who on the enemy side. arden instead of nemora to root athalia after her initial jump is a possibility (ascension of arden doesnt matter)

[sharp raptor]

idk if have the entire team at the same level worth it or the carry hard level'd gap is better

[silver forum]

Need helo guys please stuck here for a while

[green saddle]

Carrier can be even 40 levels high

I use 20

[sharp raptor]

and works better than having the same level on every character?

[green saddle]

Yes

[sharp raptor]

ok, I'll try resetting Shemira and leveling Saveas

[heavy sandal]

@limpid quail ☝️
Thanks in advance.

[rotund copper]

Stuck on 13-31! Help would be awesome

[sharp raptor]

damn, now every hero is dying fast and Saveas can even use his special =/

[heavy sandal]

@sharp raptor
Did you reset Shem? I hate to say it, but I'm not sure that was the best advice.

One thing to know is that position matters. Looking back at your earlier post, I would have suggested swapping Shem and Hogan, and moving Saveas out of the bottom position. This would result in Shem taking less damage, and saveas not being wrapped up by Arden.

@silver forum maybe try Lucius in the back instead of Rosie, and Brutus up front opposite Kaz? Sometime Lucius in the back is still good as a healer. If he is in the middle, he can help protect Rowan or Belinda whn Silvina comes to visit.

You could also experiment with Rosie in the front, since she will run to the side of the top attacker at the start of the fight anyways - that means that she won't stand in the front and take hits like a tank.

[still grotto]

I’m stuck on 24-15, any tips?

[novel adder]

@modest dove i think its usually blade for shem, call for rosa, grace for twins and probably something defensive for rowan and ezizh..e+ rowan and twins are no issue.. sig rowan is also not necessarily more powerful in these types of battles when timing of ults are very important to keep ezizh's ult stop up.

[sharp raptor]

@heavy sandal yes I did, but I regret it, she is so tanky and do lots of damage hahaha, already tried another positions with a good failure too, gonna wait to crystal's cooldown and try another formation

[tough matrix]

21-44 help

[frozen wave]

@rain oriole tyvvm man, much appreciated!!! a little confused on what you mean though by lvling my legendary heroes instead of crystal (what would be the difference?). Def plan to get Saves up still while waiting to ascend my other heroes currently in lineup

also, would using an Elite Nemora over anyone in my elite+-Leg+ team now be a big dip in help?

[brave belfry]

Help with 20-60

[modest dove]

@novel adder ooooh..so ice shem needs to b played on manual?if u dun mind could u pls elaborate?icic..thanx so much as always for the input!!

[novel adder]

@modest dove not really manual most people auto it.. just that the idea of the team is to perma stop ice shem from using her anti heal blizzard move.. by the team continuously ulting. sometimes the rowan energy pots align with the objective.. other times no.. so its not necessarily better in this case and E+ rowan will do just fine

@brave belfry
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus/Thoran/estrilda
Nemora
Nemora to charm the arden..

@tough matrix do you have a brutus or a tasi? i really dont know what other units you have available..you should at least have an E brutus from chapter 14.
Try
Tasi/fawkes
Brutus
Shem
Lucius
Rowan
lucius wont do well getting thrown over by warek.. use brutus there.

[tough matrix]

Yea I have an e+ brutus

[brave belfry]

Thx @novel adder

[novel adder]

@still grotto can't really see all your hero options as well.. so going to do some assumptions..
try
Nemora/Tasi
Brutus
Nara
Lyca
Ferael

[still grotto]

After eironn I don’t really have anything else, all the others are leg+.

They just destroyed me

[novel adder]

@rotund copper shem has a better chance of survival bottom side.. try
Tasi
Lucius
Lyca
Shem
Arden.
Give it a good number of tries so that you get optimal arden roots.. as well as shem avoiding cocoon

@still grotto many heroes are usable even at E... people have even used r arden to pass some stages.. dont discount them if you understand their kit.. its just a mental block to automatically discount heroes which are lower ascension

[still grotto]

These are my other options

[rotund copper]

That worked. Thanks.

[frozen wave]

would using an Elite Nemora over anyone in my elite+-Leg+ team now be a big dip in help? or is she still a good swap for Arden, to keep aura, even if shes elite and everyone else is elite+, minus Leg+ saveas?

running 120 gorvo, 140 (soon to be 141+ saveas), elite+ tasi, arden, and safiya for 3/2 aura

[winter matrix]

Yea Nemora at E works, and she might complete some stages for you

[frozen wave]

ok great to know - tyvvvm! i feel like sometimes Arden get crushed and from my experience so far in lab etc, nemora keeps aura and heals really really well...

cant pass 10-19, once i up saveas maybe, but heals would help a LOT if nemora is still viable now as just 1 copy/elite

[winter matrix]

Well Nemora has a really good heal ability. Arden doesn't have the ability to heal. And Nemoras charm can turn around fights

[frozen wave]

also was thinking about the charm for brutus/niru levels...

[winter matrix]

Charm works best on hard hitting enemies like Saveas, Ferael, Belinda...

[frozen wave]

that reaper ability kicks my ass if neru doesnt drop fast enough, and Brutus's immunity (also Vedan sometimes) seems like i need a healer like Nemora over arden to deal with it

[novel adder]

@still grotto the reason i suggested nara on the dreaf is because he usually does a lot of damage on some stages, could you check the battle statistics for me if that's true for this specific stage? otherwise you could try swap her position with lyca.
Another option is ferael top side, with athalia on top of arden with nemora bottom.. you could charm the arden that way.

[frozen wave]

@winter matrix yeah esp if i could charm enemy saveas at this point... could RNG run that until he kills his whole team - jw in general if someone like elite Nemora would be ok to sub for an elite+ etc

[rotund copper]

Now struggling on 32

[frozen wave]

ideally Arden (hes great, but the root isnt helping on zero heals for now 😦)

[old ore]

Iceshem lineup?

[frozen wave]

also, sry for the nub question - do heroes boosted in crystal do less/have less potential as a naturally leveled hero? or same minus the gear?

like if i took shemira out of crystal, reverted someone and leveled her, would she be significantly stronger or different?

shem for example leading to concept**

[gilded ruin]

What artifacts did you use on these guys?

[still grotto]

@novel adder that was the statistic

[limpid pumice]

Is Rosaline a better support than Nemora?

[frozen wave]

nemora has saved my ass soooooo many times in my month-ish of playing - but - rosaline seems like sick utility minus the heals/shields, or what have you

[opal dune]

Stuck in 8-40 , any suggestion ?

[frozen wave]

mostly lab/peaks but if i had her at elite + and 120 now, id prob be able to zoom past 2 more full areas. i dig her as a nub, fwiw.

[green saddle]

@ERROR#6794 before this skill she is not good as Saveas to Carry. He carries until Chapter 12

[frozen wave]

saveas carry was the best beginner advice ive recived, by far, in any game ive been almost 100% f2p fwiw

someone said shemira over him first, id say theyre wrong at this point.

[winter matrix]

@frozen wave Depends on the hero you want to swap for her. E Nemora can be better than some E+ heroes

[novel adder]

@old ore if you can rent an ezizh go for it..
the comp would be ezizh, shem, twins, rowan, rosaline.. without ezizh you probably can try lucius/belinda/estrilda but wont score as high.
@frozen wave there is no inherent disadvantage to heroes on crystal.. if they were the same ascensions and level.. on pentagram vs crystal, they would be identical.. but you can level them beyond their current ascension cap through crystal and you can overlevel people on the pentagram..
@gilded ruin blade bel, call rosaline, the other 3 defensive ones.. drape, grace, chalice, but you can try eye/conviction as well

@still grotto give it some more tries.. or try without nara and use tasi instead or swap back to shemira carry with the same support system.
@limpid pumice they do different things.. one will be better than the other in different situations.. anyhow dont have to fix a team that early.. you need as many options as possible in this game.

@opal dune swap saveas to the bottom side where lyca is.. you want him to target niru first.. not brutus.. then try nara instead at the top to pull silvina away.. or nemora if you dont have a crystal slot open atm

@frozen wave saveas is a very powerful early game carry, shem is decent.. but also has her perks.. like super easy lab clears.. super good guild boss scores.. super easy peaks of time progression etc etc.. and based on past experience of event bosses.. saveas kinda does badly there.. shem almost always is top

[old ore]

@novel adder absolute unit, you're amazing

Helping out everyone, that's really something, very good patience

[opal dune]

@novel adder will try that thanks

[frozen wave]

@winter matrix great to know, ty! im gonna go for Nemora elite first, shee if she can get me ahead a bit, maybe make her elite+ if possible, and lvl saveas over shemira until 161 /thumbsup

cant hurt to start with one copy of her if shemira is already L, and nemora always seems to help me out a TON over Arden, even though he helps a lot, too

[novel adder]

Also if anyone has not noticed, there is a new guide in #lineup-help pins by @woven lichen
its about how you build teams and tackle different stages..have a look, try it out 🙂

[opal dune]

@novel adder what a lit advice! First try with nara and it worked haha! Thanks mate

[rotund copper]

Made it into 14 but stuck again haha

[brave oriole]

arden dies there, move him. down

[rotund copper]

Moved forward but enemy shemria kills me

[brave oriole]

do you have a fawk?

[keen scroll]

Stuck on 12 26, line up help would be much appreciated

[brave oriole]

you sure it's 12 26?😊

[keen scroll]

Yes, my shemira has been carrying so far, but I need a 2nd carry and lycra even with maxed out epic gear isn't doing much damage

[brave oriole]

what I can tell you, having shem. and Lucius 240 is much better

but you cannot be on 12 26 with 240 hero lol, maybe 23 26?

[keen scroll]

Sorry lmao, 22 26

[brave oriole]

oh, weird haha, should be easy this chapter for you

[keen scroll]

Shem is starting to fall off and I'm not sure what other dps to use

[brave oriole]

nah, you are wrong, do you have an elite rowan rosa fawk?

and im on chap 23, so make your Lucius 240 first

[keen scroll]

I have a yellow fawkes, need 1 more for mythic. Now where close for rosa or rowan

[brave oriole]

they are good elite

not better than m, but still good.

and i wouldn't ascend fawk, he's good l+, maybe keep your fodders for rowan rosa bel

[keen scroll]

I'm 1 bel off of ascended, but have only got 1 Rowan and Rose lol. Unlucky so far

[brave oriole]

try to use at last rowan in middle, and Rosa when ever you are able to

if you have shem Lucius 240, they won't die easy

just replace your nemora with rowan and try with lyca tasi

[rotund copper]

@brave oriole no Fawkes for me

[brave oriole]

but again, it's hard for you cuz Lucius is lvl 220, make him. 240

@rotund copperadd him on your whish. list, having an elite fawk is a must😊

[rotund copper]

Ya just did haha

[brave oriole]

@keen scroll let me know the diff with Lucius 240

[scenic swan]

any help? 11-40

[pale kettle]

Best pvp team I could make?

[keen scroll]

@Xperta I reset nemora, put her at 200 and got luc to 240 and that worked. Thanks mate

[brave oriole]

@scenic swanmmm you should easy win, use fawk arden and rowan Backline?

@keen scroll

[keen scroll]

Did realize 240 for him was such an upgrade, much tankier

[humble gale]

best team comp and highest synergy?

[brave oriole]

@keen scrollyep and the Backline free hit while Lucius tank, alive😂

[winter matrix]

Alright, I suggest you stop making L heroes unless you can L+.
For comp you could do

Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Saveas

Make sure you get Saveas to L+ as soon as possible. Arden will root the frontline and Belinda + Saveas will most likely kill them quickly @humble gale

[brave oriole]

fawk is a good Backline too, for any beginer

[humble gale]

okay thank you sir. why should i wait for L+ instead of making them L if i can?

[brave oriole]

kinda, and to ascend the right ones

is better to keep your heroes e+ till you have more copies so you can make a. plan

[winter matrix]

If you ascend to L u need another E+ copy. U might not get that E+ copy for ages. If you ascend to L u use a lot of fodder, and then u wont have fodder for heroes that you can ascend to L+

[humble gale]

i understand. ok ty sir

[scenic swan]

@brave oriole so i’ve tried that lineup a few times and they all get smacked within 30s

[brave oriole]

deppends, there's much dps on the mauler stages, but. Lucius back of Belinda. maybe?

[pale kettle]

Best synergy team and possibly pvp team

[brave oriole]

fawk should coffin Khasos there, so you can put arden down

[bitter trellis]

Help me for this nightmare pls

[brave oriole]

@pale kettleyou have such too. many. l heroes, but i would go for. full lb team

[bitter trellis]

Oh no need thanks

[brave oriole]

@bitter trellisput arden there

[bitter trellis]

I passed without tasi but belinda

[brave oriole]

well, when you have athalia vs, helps to put arden Backline, so after her jump she will be under root 2 or 3 times

[bitter trellis]

Thanks for advice ! 🙂

[brave oriole]

you should be on chap 23, why still on 21? @bitter trellis

[bitter trellis]

I didnt change, is there a solution to be automatically?

[brave oriole]

ah, I don't think so, just to edit your name😂

[modest dove]

@novel adder ahhhh,icic..gotcha..thanx a million!!btw who should i be using for the carry against ice shem?shem or belinda bcos i see a split of top ppl using either..judging from SI & ascension would that b shem?

[winter matrix]

Shemira. Her SI is really good against bosses. Also your shem has more Faction gear. I suggest u put blade on her and use her with Rosaline & Rowan

[blazing elk]

Help what would my best teem be

[modest dove]

@winter matrix thanx for the input!!however i actually have the same amt of faction gear on belinda..so still shem?

[naive kite]

@blazing elk reset your Lucious then level him back to 80, then level saveus as far as you can. Use saveus, Lucious, then whatever support u want

[winter matrix]

Yes, Still Shem. Her SI is +20 and thats a 48% damage boost to the boss.

[modest dove]

👌🏼👍🏼 thanx for the input!!

any suggestions?thanx in advance

[winter matrix]

This is wayyy to late game for me

[unkempt rapids]

Could someone help me improve my team?

I'm kinda stuck, open to resetting anything

[drifting cave]

I got the choice between ascending Belinda or Lucius above legendary+. Who do I ascend?

[winter matrix]

Belinda

Carry > Tank > Support

[drifting cave]

cool, thanks.

[winter matrix]

@unkempt rapids Go to Temole of Ascencion and Auto Ascend. Sort out your fodder and lvl up Mirael & Saveas
In early game they will be your main carries. You could do

Saveas
Lucius
Mirael
Brutus
Nemora

[onyx mural]

Nemora or gorvo to legendary?

[winter matrix]

None. If you cant get them to L+ its not worth it. Only go to L if you can L+ right after. You could do Nemora but then you'd have to buy her from lab store to get her to L+. But for now get Shemira from lab store. At 161+ She will be your carry

[unkempt rapids]

@winter matrix should I smart ascend

[winter matrix]

With the amount of fodder you have, yes

[onyx mural]

Alright thats just a long grind for shemara

Plus I get another nemora at the end of stage 11

[unkempt rapids]

@winter matrix looking at the exp of my chairs, what would you say should be my level distribution for the team you gave me?

[pale kettle]

@unkempt rapids depends on whoever the game wants to ascend. If you're at a stage where you desperately need fodder ASAP, for example, refrain on using smart ascend and handle the food ascension yourself

[unkempt rapids]

chars*

[winter matrix]

Always level & Ascend Carry > Tank > Support
Keep your carry 20-40 levels above your crystal

[unkempt rapids]

I have no idea if I need the fodder now or not. I'm at 7-32 with no Legendaries

[winter matrix]

You can use your fodder to make Saveas/Mirael L+

[wet meadow]

What could I do

[winter matrix]

Stop making L heroes. Get a saveas to L+ and lvl 160.

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Hogan
Safiya

[wet meadow]

Who

Is the 1st one

[pale kettle]

spear-throwing goat

though judging from your ss and not seeing a speck of Saveas on your list, you could make do with this comp:
Lucius, Hogan frontline
Estrilda, Rowan, Silvina backline

[subtle talon]

Mby someone an idea? Arden / Wk not working....

[rotund copper]

Got a fawkes for 14-23, but still struggling to overpower Shem

Any ideas?

[brave oriole]

maybe estrilda on arden place

or a hypogean if have any

[rotund copper]

huh retrying over and over got it to work 😄

[brave oriole]

@subtle talonmayve give up on your saveas and lvl Belinda instead? with rowan backside she would be strong

@rotund copperyeah it's all about Lucius buff on the right time

[rotund copper]

gotcha

getting him to 161 has been super useful

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettlemmm, there's more team that you can use, but i dont know on who's targeting your fawk

[pale kettle]

He coffins shem

I think problem is fera. My team gets literally deleted

[brave oriole]

aha, have you tried to remive Brutus and put Lucius there, i think he would coffin Fera. remive Brutus and put an athalia or maybe nara vs isa

yeah, you have to use nemora if fawk won't target on fera

[pale kettle]

Lucius can’t handle frontline

[brave oriole]

ofc he can

if you put him. down, and athalia vs Isa he won't die

[pale kettle]

Okay let me try

[brave oriole]

Isa is killing him at all. but try without Brutus,

if you remove Brutus I think fawk will. coffin Fera, deppends on who he's on

[pale kettle]

Can get a merc only in few days.

[limpid pumice]

Is Rosaline better than Nemora?? Any other suggestions?

[rotund copper]

No Fawkes available now any ideas?

[brave oriole]

she's not the same, but if you go on mirael dps let's say, she will hella buff her

[woven lichen]

@subtle talon try Rowan and Rosa instead of numisu and Arden. Hopefully helps survivability and boost saveas attack

[subtle talon]

@woven lichen

[woven lichen]

@subtle talon nice job!! 🙂👍

@limpid pumice Rosa is more for boosting attack and letting heroes ult again which is great for Mirael Belinda shemira etc who depend on ult for massive damage. Nemora is more for healing and charming enemies. Charming makes them attack or crowd control themselves... great against Arden Ferael etc

[calm hound]

Pls help 😩

[woven lichen]

@pale kettle try Nemora Arden and lyca... Nemora to charm Ferael into scaring his own team

[pale kettle]

Okay I’ll try ty

[woven lichen]

@calm hound try moving Belinda top to address Mirael first... Rowan might help more than Silvina too for healing and energy gain

[calm hound]

Alright ill try thanks

It didnt help though

[blazing elk]

Can someone help me find the best team

[pale kettle]

Nah, team just gets deleted. Gonna use my hero exp. otherwise it could take atleast a week.

[analog summit]

Need help with lineup for beating 7-40 who to levelup? I can't find mauler fodder to upgrade saveas to elite+

[woven lichen]

@calm hound does Belinda ult at all? If so, Rosa could help too

@blazing elk try saveas Lucius Mirael Wu kong and Arden or numisu... Saveas should be your highest leveled character

[calm hound]

@woven lichen Yeah but only like once

[woven lichen]

@analog summit try Brutus Safiya saveas Nemora and Arden/lyca... otherwise can also try Brutus saveas tasi Nemora lyca

@calm hound if her ult can kill anyone, then Rosa would help to give another ult...

Belinda
-estrilda
Rowan
-Lucius
Rosa

[analog summit]

Who to put in front with brutus?

[pale kettle]

Saveas

[calm hound]

@woven lichen ah forget it my heroes’ levels are just too damn low 😩

[woven lichen]

@calm hound hm might need to retry several times. Power gap doesn’t seem that crazy but Mirael ult and shield can be problematic. Fawkes is another option if you had him. At least keep Mirael away while you kill everyone else

@calm hound probably won’t work but can also try

Eironn
-Lucius/Rowan
Belinda
-Rosa/Lucius
Estrilda/Brutus
(Idea is that Eironn pulls Mirael close so Belinda can focus on her)

[calm hound]

hold on i passed the level finally (only took 200 tries or so but yay) thnx for the help

[woven lichen]

@calm hound sweet nice work! 👍

[calm hound]

dear god not another boss -.-

[analog summit]

@woven lichen i tried both formation the heros are dying very fast

[scenic frost]

22-42

[brave oriole]

@analog summit you have to overlvl one carry at all

[woven lichen]

@analog summit you may need a true tank in front instead of saveas then... Brutus Lucius saveas and then two other heroes then. If Brutus and Lucius still die too fast, probably need to reach L101 or etc. Brutus can act as a carry ish until you get more saveas

[pale kettle]

For the ice shemira, i have ezizh but not the twins, what other support can i put instead of twins ?

[brave oriole]

Lucius

I haven't tried it, but if no twins, without lucius is fast death

[woven lichen]

@scenic frost

[analog summit]

Alright I'll try to level brutus and lucuis up if not i will try belinda to 120 or just wait for more saveas

[pale kettle]

Which relic should ezizh wear ? Not really familiar with him

[brave oriole]

@scenic frost can't find my ss of the stage, but you need Brutus vs skreg at all. and lvl down Belinda and up Lucius to 240,and you will ko them. Brutus Lucius back shem Rosa rowan, easy win

there's a huge diff between Lucius 220 and 240

all you need 2x 240 to tank, Backline will be OK lower lvl

try and let me know

[analog summit]

Leveled up nemora to 100 and used wukong in the backline to act as semi tank somehow it worked :)

[brave oriole]

@analog summit focus on buying shemira from the labirinth shop, you will enjoy her later

and use the faction scrolls for. lb

that's all you need to get on end game, i mean chap 23+

[analog summit]

I have a question about labyrinth since its my first month and I already bought shemira, right now I have enough coin to buy another elite should I save them or buy nemora?

[brave oriole]

wait for the reset and buy another shemira

till you will have her white, then you cn buy something else

and fill your whish list, full

[analog summit]

Alright thanks

[crimson kraken]

Mauler 80 T_T

[stone bluff]

can someone help me with this match ?

[little eagle]

An tips on what to go for next ? I dont really know what to do now...

[mortal flax]

14-28 getting destroyed, the rare arden is no joke, he is my only one but best tries with him

[shy mesa]

@jaunty flume Try Tasi over Nemora and put her in front of Wukong, if she has semi decent gear she should survive. All you need is her to ult once

[jaunty flume]

@shy mesa wow thanks I’ve been stuck on that all day and that literally got me passed it

[shy mesa]

@jaunty flume no problem Tasi is really really really strong especially with letting your team ult I used her in like all but 10 stages since chapter 2

[tribal yacht]

So, this is my units in stock, I'm close to ascending Nemora, just need a couple of L+ folders, any tips or recomendations I should focus on? Currently over 20-42

[woven lichen]

@tribal yacht so you’re in a good spot with almost 5 ascended. Can try to get more heroes that will help with endgame... Lucius Rowan Fawkes would let you run lb endgame party.... Ferael/eironn would be nice to get too. Beyond that, maybe Thoran for cheese or tanking against high burst targets. Nara is also great later on as counter to Arden etc

[flint cairn]

Help 25-44

[teal glade]

@crimson kraken brutus khasos front. Skreg warek safiya back.

[woven lichen]

@flint cairn agi tanks or Brutus are a nice way to deal with skreg

[flint cairn]

Thanks will try

[tribal yacht]

Thanks for the insight Aesyr! I'll try to!

[gloomy coral]

Best setup forevent boss?

[pale kettle]

any agility or melee heroes would do, as long as you mind the faction bonus

mages like bel or shem won't deal much damage against the brute

[dusty dock]

What should be my team for burning brute?

[echo bloom]

Tips on party? Cant get above 70 bells

[dusty dock]

I only got 27 but haven't hit confirm yet, this is so sad

[lost nova]

Need help on a good burning brute team. I've tried for the past 10min and got max of 38

[late jungle]

i'm trying to beat this to get the artifact but i have no idea how to, nothing works

[woven lichen]

@dusty dock try saveas Brutus/Rosa Lucius Rowan Belinda

@echo bloom try saveas Lucius Rosa Talene Brutus

@lost nova try shemira/Belinda Rowan Rosa lorsan estrilda/Lucius

[echo bloom]

why saveas? he stays outside the bubble and suffers -80% dmg

[dusty dock]

@woven lichen I did Saveas Brutus Lucius Rowan Belinda, only got 18. I'm thinking of Saveas Brutus Warek Rowan Estrilda if they can survive

[woven lichen]

@dusty dock can try that. I had luck on my alt with saveas Rosa Lucius Brutus and Talene.. L120 for everyone and 96 bells

Rosa helps to boost your damage

[dusty dock]

@woven lichen ok I'll also try the Rosa one thank you!

[mortal flax]

Already failed and clicked confirm but for tomorrow any good tips with what I have for event?

[woven lichen]

@mortal flax try Rowan Rosa Brutus Lucius and skreg(?)... good mix of healing and melee

[echo bloom]

@woven lichen wouldnt a non range dps be better than saveas?

[mortal flax]

@woven lichen okay thanks, will try but isn't there damage lacking?

[woven lichen]

@echo bloom can try it but your saveas is also so much higher in level. Worth a shot though

[echo bloom]

true but suufers -80% damage for being out of the shie;d

[drifting root]

Any good lineup for the new event boss?

[woven lichen]

@echo bloom yeah so maybe. Try it out. No harm in more attempts

[echo bloom]

treu ill try it tomorrow

[wild condor]

Tips for event

[woven lichen]

@mortal flax Brutus is ok for damage... can try including estrilda too for damage boost. Mainly issue is that you need melee attackers... Baden possible too... and then enough survivability

@pale kettle thank you for the reference 👍

@drifting root try Brutus Eironn/warek estrilda Rosa estrilda/Lucius

[pale kettle]

[oak lance]

i get about 70-80, any help for the event?

[woven lichen]

@oak lance try Baden Rowan Rosa athalia Brutus/Lucius

[willow moon]

Only got to 39, any other strats in mind?

[merry ferry]

Any help for event? Used warek brutus kasos rosa and lucius got 47

[woven lichen]

@willow moon try estrilda instead of lorsan or twins or move Rosa to front instead of Rowan

[willow moon]

why us estrilda good here? mine is only E+, should I ascend her to L+?

[wild condor]

can you help me as well pls @woven lichen

[pale kettle]

Need help with for the event, what's a good line up for me?

[woven lichen]

@willow moon can try not ascending but mainly for her atk and energy boost skill

[wild condor]

cant get more than 65

[late jungle]

what can i use for event? barely get 20 something

[woven lichen]

@wild condor try shemira Rosa front.. Rowan twin and lorsan... if no lorsan maybe estrilda

[willow moon]

oh my lord @woven lichen swapping Rowan worked so well, why?

[wild condor]

@woven lichen thx, ill try

[woven lichen]

@pale kettle try shemira Rowan Rosa twins and estrilda... or replace one of them with Brutus

@willow moon because Rosa is a fantastic dps too 🙂👍

[willow moon]

That's weird, I thought she was mainly used for support. And just putting her in front took me from 39 to 100? that seems so drastic

[woven lichen]

@late jungle try antandra Baden Rowan Silvina Tidus khasos or some combination like that... focus on melee

[willow moon]

How does Rosa do so much damage? I just realized she did over 2x the damage Shem did

[woven lichen]

@willow moon her dps is based upon % hp... she can be a carry ish at end game... surprisingly

[merry ferry]

That comp got me 70 damn

[wild condor]

@woven lichen

Best one, I think I'll take it. Thx for the help

[woven lichen]

Sure

[merry ferry]

Twins ar E the Wilder and rowan e+

[primal sandal]

kaz did wonders for me even at E+ cause of all the dodges

[woven lichen]

@primal sandal nice work!

[merry ferry]

No estrilad for me oof

Rowan in the middle worked waaaay better thanks @woven lichen

[ripe beacon]

@woven lichen any idea how to beat this lvl? I cant do it even whith mercs

[pale kettle]

@woven lichen its better but just got 44
Well thanks though 😁

[woven lichen]

@ripe beacon

@pale kettle you can try using Baden or some other melee too... sorrowin has a post in #classic-questions that covers the burning brute

[ripe beacon]

The problem is i dont know at what mage silvina needs to focus in the first picture, probably nemora?

[pale kettle]

@woven lichen alright thanks!

[pastel robin]

Any comp tip for the event?

[frosty axle]

Any recommend lineup?

[woven lichen]

@ripe beacon usually tasi so she can blink away

[naive kite]

Never done burning brute event, any advice on an optimal lineup?

[woven lichen]

@naive kite @frosty axle @pastel robin For burning brute, if you dont have twins, probably not wise to go with a shem/belinda team (read all the skills, especially the third one).
if you have twins, should be shem/bel, rowan, rosaline, twins, estrilda... or lorsan in the mix.
If you don't have twins, consider melee carries.. melee buffers/debuffers like estrilda, warek,baden are especially good
rowan is all the sustain you need generally
melee carries you can consider are brutus, kaz, eironn, athalia etc etc.
Below are 100% samples
sample melee team: athalia, warek, estrilda, rowan, lorsan(call on athalia)
sample melee team 2 : kaz/brutus/eironn, estrilda, rosaline, rowan, twins/lorsan (from Sorrowin)

[naive kite]

I have twins but saveus is my carry, should I reset him for belinda or shemera just for the event?

[winter meteor]

what if I have twins but no lorsan or estrilda

[frosty axle]

@woven lichen do u think E+ warek good in this event? Cz my melee carry are on low tier

[woven lichen]

@naive kite can try with saveas or some other melee character instead

[winter meteor]

saveas or brutus then?

[pastel robin]

probably i cant do the event :<

[woven lichen]

@winter meteor then use some other melee dps to add additional damage... Rosa and shemira/Belinda with twin still helps

@pastel robin just try. Can always keep retrying with different combinations until happy

[winter meteor]

the problem I'm having with Rosa is, Shem is carry and front, so rosa runs to the front but doesn't stay inside the shield

[frosty axle]

@stoic compass #classic-questions

[woven lichen]

@winter meteor so Rosa dies? It’s ok if she just stays near shemira in front to boost ult and damage

[pastel robin]

sadly i don't have any good melee beside Brutus and estrilda

[winter meteor]

she doesn't dies, she gets inside the shield in the first 5 seconds then is thrown out to the back of shem after

[woven lichen]

@pastel robin so use those two Support heroes then to keep alive. Only Rowan is necessary

[pastel robin]

my rowan is purple (i never remember de rarity names) 😦

[woven lichen]

@winter meteor can also try kaz Eironn Brutus Baden athalia etc instead of shemira as main dps

@pastel robin Rowan at low ascension is fine

[naive kite]

So shemera is better than belinda for this?

[pearl sorrel]

Helpppw

[stoic compass]

Lineup help for event? Can’t hit more than 19 currently

[pearl sorrel]

I need lineup for boss

[primal sandal]

what team are you using currently

[woven lichen]

@naive kite no Belinda is great too just depends on who you have as stronger

[stoic compass]

I tried Shem/Ferael/Eironn/Lyca/Nem

[bright shuttle]

Should I use estrilder on my comp even though she’s only E+?

[pastel robin]

34 item

athalia, brutus, rowan,estrilda and rosaline

[woven lichen]

@pearl sorrel try Eironn/Belinda Rosa Rowan athalia Brutus

[bright shuttle]

For the event I mean

[woven lichen]

@bright shuttle yeah that is fine since she has atk and energy boost to help your main support

[woven lichen]

@stoic compass try Rowan estrilda Brutus antandra thane(?)

[pastel robin]

i think it's fine for now :v

[bright shuttle]

Hmm ok, so in terms of lineup 1. Belinda, 2. Estrilder, 3. Twin, 4. Rowan, 5. Rosa? @woven lichen

[stoic compass]

@woven lichen Antandra and Thane are E+ and E only tho, but Ill try.

[woven lichen]

@bright shuttle can try Rosa in front too. Experiment but something like that

[bright shuttle]

Ok

[primal sandal]

@stoic compass I would do estrilda kaz lorsan rowan and eironn(?)

[woven lichen]

@pastel robin nice work! 👍

[primal sandal]

just keep trying and see what works, you have a couple heroes that could work here

[pastel robin]

ty @woven lichen

[pearl sorrel]

@pastel robin did u 100

[stoic compass]

@primal sandal Woah. Dude. I just went from 20 bells to 87.

What is this magic? What made the difference?

[pastel robin]

@pearl sorrel only 34 😦

[stoic compass]

Is it that the boss is defended against ranged attacks or what?

[odd python]

read the skills

[pearl sorrel]

81? How can I improve trm?

[woven lichen]

@stoic compass boss has reduced damage from ranged... so either need mages with super high damage due to twin estrilda etc... or melee

[odd python]

literally right there lol

[stoic compass]

Ack. I'm silly. Thank you guys. 😂

[woven lichen]

@pearl sorrel could try athalia maybe... have to experiment more with your heroes for above 80

[wicked yarrow]

Is this a good lineup?

Brutus
Shemira
Tasi
Nemora
Lyca

[pearl sorrel]

i find that athalia dies too quick

[odd python]

@stoic compass make use of some melee dps or people with buffs

[woven lichen]

@wicked yarrow tasi and lyca won’t help much in the battle... want ones that can deal damage or additional support throughout the battle

Estrilda Rowan Rosa twins with shemira/Belinda... or some melee like kaz Brutus Eironn athalia etc

[wicked yarrow]

@woven lichen I have an Estrilda at mythic+ and Belinda at Ascended

But if I replace Tasi and Lyca with them I won't have a faction bonus

[woven lichen]

@wicked yarrow do you have Rowan and Rosa instead?

[fresh jay]

need a good team for event, running Belinda rosaline shemira lucius Rowan is getting me 80%

[shell hamlet]

22-42

[woven lichen]

@fresh jay can try lorsan/estrilda instead of Lucius or shemira/Belinda..

@shell hamlet

[shell hamlet]

@woven lichen what are the reset conditions

[waxen bison]

is eironn any good for burning brute

[opal dune]

Any idea or tip to clear this ?

[fresh jay]

@woven lichen thanks, worked like a charm

[junior cloud]

Kinda new in this game can you guys give me a good line up for some progress

[waxen bison]

@junior cloud saveas and brutus are your best bet at that level

[woven lichen]

@shell hamlet reset conditions? Mainly want Arden to root main damage dealers or shemira to ult

[shell hamlet]

I’m trying the Fawkes frontline one i don’t have a good thoran

[woven lichen]

@opal dune try estrilda instead of Belinda/orthos. Maybe a Nemora of your own to charm

[junior cloud]

@waxen bison im in 5-32 who should i change for saveas and brutus

[woven lichen]

@peak holly try Nemora to charm Ferael or maybe athalia there... can position like...

Lucius
-Rowan
Athalia
-Brutus
Saveas
(Not sure where your post went... deleted?)

@shell hamlet Lucius or Brutus can substitute for Thoran too

[waxen bison]

@junior cloud run brutus, hogan, rosaline, saveas, fawkes. (with most of the points in saveas, he will carry you for most the early chapters)

[junior cloud]

@waxen bison i'll try thanks

[blazing elk]

Need help for boss please

[ember bane]

@woven lichen need good line up for Burning Brute ty

[primal sandal]

show us your heroes mate @ember bane

[blazing elk]

Dam dude

[ember bane]

@primal sandal you got anything yet ?

[blazing elk]

Can I get the help doe?

[waxen bison]

@blazing elk build around saveas

[blazing elk]

Ok thanks but this is my first account and I have literally no team building exp.

[spare seal]

Hey, any ideas for Burning Brute? Have tried quite a few things already, best I did was like 86 or something focusing on Shemira.

[woven lichen]

@blazing elk try saveas, Wu kong, thane, Belinda, lucius... limited options

[primal sandal]

@ember bane do you have lorsan

[blazing elk]

Ok thank under stand about the options I’m sorry just trying to make the best out of what I got @woven lichen

[woven lichen]

@spare seal shemira Rosa front with Rowan twin and estrilda/twin

[spare seal]

What artifacts should I use? I have Blade on Shem and Call on Rowan. Not sure about others.

[waxen bison]

Can’t get past 60 woth Belinda/twins/Rosa/Rowan/estri combo on burning. Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

Best synergy or pvp team

[naive kite]

@blazing elk make saveus your highest level hero. If it were me I would make the other 4 level 80, then max out saveus as far as u can, then level Lucious

[spare seal]

@woven lichen Thanks, got to 100 after a few tries. I tried that combo, but I guess the positions you gave worked better. Ionno

[untold rivet]

Please give me a lineup for the burning brute that will get me the most from this boss?

[junior cloud]

Im stuck at 8-20

[woeful wing]

Need help with 20-60

[woven lichen]

@waxen bison our Belinda and Rosa in front with blade and eye. Rest in back row (can try lorsan instead of estrilda too if you have him)

@untold rivet try shemira/Belinda with Rosa Rowan lorsan and twins/estrilda

@junior cloud try Belinda raine Lucius orthos/estrilda/Brutus and tasi/Nemora

@woeful wing can try Arden instead of Nemora.

[waxen bison]

@woven lichen dont have blade yet... tried that formation and still cant get past 64. do you think thane or wukong would be a good substitute for estrilda

[woven lichen]

@waxen bison definitely worth a try... even kaz, Brutus or Eironn... melees can be good against this boss

[waxen bison]

@woven lichen which one would you pick? I have kaz, wu kong, thane at Elite, and Eironn at E+. no brutus (damn rng)

[woven lichen]

@waxen bison I’d start with eironn and then try the rest

[spare aurora]

Any good comps for this event ?

[jolly tide]

yeah, best lineup for burning brute?

[waxen bison]

looks like wu kong was the way to go

[naive kite]

Is the best formation for this team? Or are some hero in wrong spot?

[waxen bison]

@naive kite i think rosa in front... then try wu kong instead of estrilda if you dont hit 100

[naive kite]

OK, can I let the fight finish then retry? Or do u have to retry before it ends?
Also I heard if your hero's are the same level it's better, like reset shemera then level them all up to the same